00:05:13.320Titled, why I chose to no longer wear leggings.
00:05:18.340And it was just her own personal conviction and testimony about that.
00:05:21.080I wasn't shaming anyone I wasn't telling everybody this is what you should do
00:05:25.000this is just what I'm doing just what my story on it yeah and so anyways I shared it because I was
00:05:31.000so proud of her without telling me without telling me I just told me I would have said no you're not
00:05:35.280sharing that I shared it on on Facebook and then all of a sudden um like a day later there's like
00:05:42.140hundreds of thousands of people that have seen this article and good morning America calls us
00:05:48.760And I mean, it was as viral as something can go. CNN, HSN, Fox, it was big. And it sparked an international conversation around the topic of modesty. And you should have seen the worldwide defensiveness. It was amazing, actually, in terms of just how defensive the culture got.
00:06:13.800now there was lots of women that were absolutely just supportive but it was men too and men too
00:06:20.120matt walsh actually wrote an article about this this is before matt walsh was you know as big as
00:06:24.740he is um and but it was a big deal there was actually some really nasty stuff going on
00:06:32.000really bad comments coming back i mean it was the point where veronica was crying just about
00:06:36.120every night in terms of the defensiveness and the vulgarity and the intensity and aggressiveness
00:06:41.640that was coming from this conversation so um yeah not something i enjoy remembering about but yeah
00:06:49.480it happened it happened and it was a really important it shows that it's a really important
00:06:54.340conversation it's a hot topic for sure it's a hot topic yeah so yeah and i would say when that
00:06:59.800happened the number one response was like why are you blaming women i should be able to wear
00:07:05.740whatever i want that's a big thing that we hear all the time like i should be able to wear whatever
00:07:09.260whatever i want it's the man's fault he needs to work on his self-control yeah um it's not my
00:07:14.360problem um or another one that i got a lot was well the men are going to look anyway yeah and so
00:07:20.780it's let's just say if uh a woman you're at the park with your kids and a woman walks into the
00:07:27.840park you know you've got little boys or girls too um woman walks into the park topless is it
00:07:34.000the man's job or everyone else's responsibility to not look yeah is it just the man's job to not
00:07:39.960look no no no it's it's that's part of his job like he needs to have self-control in his own
00:07:46.560spirit to turn away yeah it's biblical or i should say sexuality is responsible we are we are both
00:07:55.540husband and wife man and woman are responsible for sexuality it's not just the man's job it's
00:08:02.020not just the woman's job it's both jobs and so both of us can't deny that0.74
00:08:08.080responsibility and I'm speaking to the women here as I am a woman so I think
00:08:13.060it's important for us as women to remember that female modesty is not just
00:08:17.380for the men but it is also for the preteens the young children that 12 13
00:08:23.78014 year olds who are going through puberty for the young boy who's going
00:08:27.100through puberty he's really struggling with all these new hormones that he's
00:08:29.960experiencing. And for the young girl who's in junior high and already struggling with body
00:08:35.820image issues and how her body's changing and what it should look like and how she should dress it.
00:08:40.100So it's important for both sides. We always think that, I mean, I think the common conversation is
00:08:45.300that like, yeah, the 25-year-old man shouldn't be looking. He should have self-control. Okay,
00:08:49.400cool. Yeah, he should have self-control. And I get that. But are we also thinking about the 12-year-old
00:08:55.040boy who just entered into puberty and he's trying to like gauge his grounds here you know find his
00:09:00.340kind of his balance you know his footing especially the young men um who are christians
00:09:05.940already who are young believers and they're struggling they're stumbling and they're just
00:09:10.660like i don't know what to do yeah and they're trying this is all new to them this is all new
00:09:14.600territory and again like as veronica said the young women the young 12 13 year old girls who
00:09:20.100are trying to keep up well and their bodies are changing so much at that age too yeah it's so
00:09:27.000it's so sad so anyways that's just a part of that that conversation um but again a lot of
00:09:32.100defensiveness comes around this conversation and i want to say something there's a quote
00:09:35.620i believe it's gk chesterton it says that the kingdom of self is heavily defended territory
00:09:41.460and when people get defensive especially in the church about the conversation of modesty
00:09:45.900modesty well it's it's a selfish act when you're defensive about something the heart the godly
00:09:51.740biblical man or woman when the conversation and we're going to talk to the men too
00:09:55.680the topic of modesty comes up or any topic it should be like oh wait what am i do i not know
00:10:02.080something like tell me more what does the word say about this because we should be wanting to
00:10:06.400yield to the scripture even if it's uncomfortable even if it's unpopular um even if it's we don't
00:10:13.500understand it all the way. So I'm going to give you guys just some scriptural conversation.
00:10:19.560Veronica will chime in, but I got a little section here for you guys. So Paul in 1 Corinthians
00:10:25.040chapters 8 through 10, get your Bibles out sometime today and read it. And if you want to,
00:10:31.740pull a commentary up and understand it a little bit more. I've taught through almost the entire
00:10:37.280book of 1 Corinthians in terms of sermon by sermon, a sermon every chapter. And I've studied
00:10:43.000these chapters extensively. And chapters 8 and 10 are the concept of Paul saying that your liberties,
00:10:51.860your rights to do certain things, to dress certain ways, to eat certain foods, to drink certain
00:10:58.120drinks, these certain rights that we have as Christians, these freedoms that we have,
00:11:03.320if they cause another brother or sister to stumble, Paul says that we should forfeit our liberty.
00:11:11.540The idea is that your love for your other brothers and sisters in Christ will limit your liberties.
00:11:20.460And that's why the person who's maybe struggling with alcoholism, you don't drink when you're around that guy.0.93
00:11:26.540The guy that just got off the pornography addiction, you don't take him down to the beach where there's half naked women in bikinis that day.0.90
00:12:32.220And this kind of level of self-awareness of how my actions will affect other people and other brothers is great evidence of your love for others.
00:12:53.020to protect if you care about your brother or sister spiritual walk then it is loving to be
00:12:59.260mindful of their weaknesses and how to protect them from those things yeah and it's this is a
00:13:05.500mature perspective that much of the church doesn't have and hasn't seen yeah and it's not just in the
00:13:11.840modesty conversation like you said it's the alcohol conversation the pornography conversation
00:13:15.700somebody who's struggling with gluttony food you know it's just like be you know portion control
00:13:21.580when you're around them or something it's in every aspect yeah and so um now for some reason
00:13:28.720the conversation of modesty has been essentially erased from the pulpit in america and i you know
00:13:34.880if you walk into any relatively popular church today and we've been to lots of big churches
00:13:41.920in our marriage and you're going to see generally two types of immodesty you're going to see guys
00:13:48.880wearing low cut, like wide neck shirts with tattoos, kind of like tight pants, like where
00:13:57.520their situation has got like imprinted situation. I'm, I'm, I'm serious. That's a crazy thing. And,
00:14:04.200and you know, the, the pastors walk like just necklaces and just showing like, look at me
00:14:11.600materialism almost. Yeah. Like just kind of look at me, you know, um, draw the attention to me
00:14:18.000kind of thing, which is just, again, that is how men are immodest. And then you're going to see
00:14:25.620women wearing like workout attire, leggings. And if people don't think that leggings are1.00
00:14:33.140different than jeans, I'm here to tell you that's not true. There are not Instagram accounts on
00:14:39.500looking at girls in jeans. There are probably hundreds of Instagram accounts of looking at
00:14:46.180women in leggings. It is a sexual difference to a man. And it's the difference between jeans and
00:14:53.280leggings or the difference between a woman wearing a bra and not wearing a bra in terms of just the
00:14:59.600outline of the woman's body. And again, we'll talk more about that. I'm not saying that you
00:15:04.400can't wear leggings. Veronica wears leggings, but not in certain places. She doesn't wear them out
00:15:09.640about. She wears them at home. She'll wear them under a dress, things like that. We'll talk about
00:15:14.440that a little bit. But, you know, girls wearing short skirts, girls wearing, you know, like just0.94
00:15:21.460a fashionable kind of really intense high fashion kind of look at church in terms of just the
00:15:28.160drawing the attention to me, like focus on me. Crop tops I've seen girls wearing at church.
00:15:35.080Giant backless dresses, like just, again, I don't want to turn this into a conversation about what
00:15:41.800you can and cannot wear. This is a conversation about a heart. It's a heart issue. It's a heart
00:15:48.360issue. And so, and I think this is the problem. And Veronica is going to have some more things
00:15:53.400to say here in a bit. I just have a kind of a big section of notes that I wanted to talk through
00:15:57.340here. I think the problem lies in this. Christians are looking to other Christians to determine
00:16:04.340what's appropriate to wear or to do instead of looking at Christ and God's word on what's0.96
00:16:10.480appropriate to wear and to do. And so we kind of acclimate to the status quo in the church. If you
00:16:17.900walk into a church and the women dress a certain way, then people that are new to the church will0.99
00:16:22.980start dressing that way. If the men are at a certain level of biblical maturity, then that's0.55
00:16:30.860kind of where everybody will end up at biblical maturity. But the Bible doesn't tell us to gauge
00:16:35.280morality by looking to the church. It says to gauge morality by looking to Christ and looking
00:16:41.120to God's word. And what we need to realize is that choice of clothing is connected eternally
00:16:49.980in our faith. It is an eternal matter. And it's hard to believe that. Actually, a friend of mine
00:16:56.340who's a pastor down in San Diego, Evan Wickham, he actually has a new church plant down there.
00:17:05.280And he, he just sent me a book. He says, there's a book called the biblical theology of clothing. So clothing is a big deal in terms of, of, of how important it is. And, you know, one thing that I wrote down, this is a note that I found online. I thought it was really well written. It says the purpose of clothing is for what we're trying to cover up, not what we're trying to reveal, you know, and what we're trying to cover up is our sexual parts.
00:17:31.900What did Adam and Eve cover up when they found out about their sin?
00:18:52.520Why are you so concerned about what you were wearing?
00:18:54.840I think, I don't think God would say that in his character.
00:18:58.080um but if you're going to err on any side of the discussion i personally would just rather be safe
00:19:04.380than sorry um and so i think it's also important to remember that men are highly visual yeah right
00:19:12.980wouldn't you agree like yeah this is this is i can tell you from experience any married woman
00:19:20.140at least in my case i will i can tell you that if i'm wearing something that like leggings or
00:19:27.380something that Dale finds attractive, I'm going to be touched probably a thousand times more that
00:19:32.900day than any other day that week. Yeah. And I, we know this is true of several couples in our
00:19:37.220community, you know, and, and, uh, yeah. It's, so it's not like an anomaly to us. Yeah. And men,
00:19:43.080yeah. Men being visual is just a fact. It's not something that we're making up to try and put
00:19:47.220blame on the men. It's just, it's just a fact. That's how they were created. And, um, I'm not
00:19:51.800sure if some women are maybe just like oblivious to that fact because women generally are not
00:19:56.960visual like men. I mean, we can be driving down the road and see men jogging topless and just
00:20:02.600keep driving, like not even think about it. Um, and so, or if they're just kind of in denial.
00:20:09.920Yeah. And I mean, the, the, the reality is, is, um, you know, men are really visual and it's why
00:20:17.940millions of men will spend millions of dollars buying the sports illustrated swimsuit edition.
00:20:25.360it's why millions of men spend billions of dollars on pornography websites and if you like there is
00:20:34.960research on this and very little money is spent on by women by women yeah to pay to see men who
00:20:43.460are disrobed okay it's just like they are out there it's just a way smaller percentage in
00:20:49.900comparison to men yeah it's like putting an anthill next to mount everest in terms of the0.87
00:20:54.900difference. Men are so much more absolutely driven visually, and there's so much science
00:21:00.860to prove that point. An interesting fact is that in the 1940s, the indecent exposure laws that
00:21:12.520were just secular, I'm talking, this is a secular law, not even a church law. If you were to wear
00:21:17.920a bikini the bikinis that we see today at the beach in 1940 you would go to jail you'd be0.89
00:21:26.200arrested and you go to jail for indecent exposure and this was a secular law and if you don't
00:21:32.480believe that go ask your grandmother okay i promise you that that that is the there's actually
00:21:37.540photos of this of people getting arrested for for wearing something like i'm not saying that
00:21:41.740that's right or wrong i'm just saying is that that is what's happening and you know if god's
00:21:47.220standards of morality and modesty feel so far away today who moved us or god
00:21:55.900yeah god didn't move we've moved we've become comfortable we've normalized um we've we've
00:22:05.200allowed the the secularization of the culture become normal in our spirits and in the church
00:22:10.880and we've we have satisfied our flesh we have yeah absolutely instead of doing what satisfies
00:22:17.300god yeah which is generally the opposite of our flesh yeah generally okay this is a interesting
00:22:24.040way i'm going to lead into this section here there is a i found a blog post written by a gentleman
00:22:29.700who's probably in his early 20s who was a college student now it's a couple paragraphs and he writes
00:22:35.320is testimony of modesty from a man's perspective and it was really well written and i think it's
00:22:43.000important for the ladies to hear and i want you ladies specifically to pay attention and men i
00:22:48.240think you'll probably be nodding your heads yes yes and again we're not picking on the ladies today
00:22:52.180um this is a conversation about biblical wives influence their daughters influence the other0.50
00:23:02.400single women and it starts in marriage well we hit the men a lot we very early at the women
00:23:10.080with a topic and this is it happens to be a sensitive one for a lot of women yeah so it's
00:23:15.760you know if we're gonna be talking to the men harshly or sternly i should say um according to
00:23:21.360the scriptures then we got we gotta read our mail to you yeah so i'm gonna read this to you guys
00:23:27.920right now, and I want you to pay attention. This gentleman says, each and every day is a battle.
00:23:34.380A battle against my sin, a battle against temptation, a battle against my depraved mind.
00:23:39.800Every morning, I have to cry out for mercy, strength, and a renewed conviction to flee
00:23:44.540sexual lusts. The Spirit is faithful to bring me to a renewal, and I need to prepare, and to bring
00:23:52.100me to the renewal I need to prepare me to do war against my sin. Yet the temptation still exists.
00:23:57.920I am thankful that God has made me attracted to women.
00:24:01.260However, campus is a loaded minefield.0.99
00:24:04.040There are girls everywhere, and it's guaranteed that I will pass attractive girls as I walk between classes.
00:24:10.020I either have to be actively engaging my mind and my spirit to praying, quoting scripture, listening to worship music, or simply looking at the sidewalk to make it through unscathed.
00:24:19.660Many days, it takes all four to be safe.0.95
00:24:22.920Sometimes when I see a girl provocatively dressed, I say to myself,0.70
00:24:27.440she probably doesn't know that 101 guys are going to devour her in their minds today.0.99
00:24:34.520To be honest, I don't know the truth.0.76
00:24:36.680The truth of why she chooses to dress the way that she does.1.00
00:24:39.800All I know is that the way she presents herself to the world0.98
00:24:43.360is bait for my sinful mind to latch onto, and I need to avoid it at all costs.1.00
00:24:48.800The thing women do not seem to fully grasp is that the temptation toward lust does not stop for us as men.0.99
00:24:57.360It is continual. It is aggressive.0.98
00:24:59.820It does all it can to lead men down to spiritual death.
00:25:03.500They have a choice to either help or deter its goal.
00:25:06.920For the most part, the church serves as a sanctuary from the continual barrage of temptation toward sin.
00:25:12.880However, the church's members are not free from sin yet.0.97
00:25:16.620And there are girls both ignorant and knowledgeable of men's sinful tendencies.0.93
00:25:21.340I must confess that even in church can have several minds scattered about.
00:25:27.340I fully understand that the responsibility of lust is not theirs, but mine.
00:25:31.660But their good choices do support my walk with Christ.
00:25:35.180Consider this as my appeal on behalf of all men to help deter the goal of lust in our lives.
00:25:40.720And so a powerful piece of just a real testimony from a real young man.
00:25:46.620And I believe that's actually very accurate to most men, to most Christian men.
00:25:53.660I was listening to sermons as preparing this, listening to John Piper and Tim Keller and Paul Washer and Votie Bauckham and different guys that I really respect.
00:26:03.020And all of them have said that they've preached before.0.95
00:26:05.820And in the front row, a woman is totally immodestly dressed to the point where they had to turn away.0.68
00:26:13.060um a few days ago we attended an event and there was a woman singing and a christian woman singing0.87
00:26:28.100christian songs dressed in an immodest outfit incredibly immodest and i couldn't look at her0.99
00:26:35.820I had to look the other way and so it's not just me it's guys like John Piper and Tim Keller and1.00
00:26:43.320Votie Bauckham like the strongest of Christian men that we have today this is a real reality
00:26:48.380and I just want the ladies to understand that yeah and as a woman I know that there's just
00:26:55.580a tremendous amount of pressure on the women today to look a certain way but as Christian
00:27:01.840women we're not to be of this world we're supposed to look different yeah and we're supposed to look
00:27:06.200to the example um of scripture that scripture provides for our definition of modesty yeah um
00:27:12.860and so with that said um what does the bible say about modesty yeah so i'll read a couple of
00:27:19.000scriptures here and this this says more than this these are just a couple that we brought up yeah
00:27:23.840so first we're gonna read um first timothy 2 9 and 10 i'm gonna move this here so i can speak
00:27:30.780in my microphone still. Likewise, also that women should adorn themselves in proper clothing with0.99
00:27:36.280modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what
00:27:42.400is proper for women to profess godliness with good works. And then the next scripture is first
00:27:49.000Peter three, three through four. Do not let your adorning be external, the braiding of hair or the
00:27:56.160putting on of gold of gold jewelry or the clothing you wear but let your adorning be the hidden person
00:28:01.580of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit in which god sight is very
00:28:07.340precious yeah um so a few things just to kind of break those down together and veronica can chime
00:28:15.140in with me um when it's talking about the braiding of hair and jewelry um it could be talking about
00:28:21.220that literally most theologians believe that's what it's saying is that the emphasis of like
00:28:26.760are you really trying to draw attention to yourself um instead of putting the attention
00:28:33.400to god is the glory coming to you i think that's the general theme i guess what what i'm talking
00:28:38.720about there um because if you want to glorify god um he does want you to adorn yourself as a as a
00:28:46.700woman and a man you know but he wants you to adorn yourself in a certain way so so what are we to
00:28:53.620adorn ourselves with ladies what are what what are the scriptures calling if and if you want to argue
00:28:59.560with this you're arguing with the bible you're not arguing with me and veronica here but as a
00:29:05.340christian woman should go i want to know what the bible says about these matters because i want to
00:29:10.120serve christ and i want to do what glorifies him and it's generally a challenging thing
00:29:18.240a gentle and quiet spirit yeah right yeah talk about that in the face of the feminism culture
00:29:25.340that is fighting hard today um okay so i'll break these down a couple a little bit here so first1.00
00:29:31.640timothy when it says likewise also that the women should adorn themselves in proper clothing0.92
00:29:35.620with modesty it implies that one you can have improper clothing that's just kind of logical
00:29:42.220fact right there that there is improper clothing um and it says with modesty like with in that word
00:29:49.740modesty is closely related to humility is that like humbling yourself in a way of your dress
00:29:56.120like it's not about me it doesn't mean that you have to look ugly look cute for my wife dresses0.97
00:30:02.160super cute and she looks beautiful and elegant um but she's also humble in the way that she
00:30:09.860she dresses um and a good rule is that if your clothing is a frame for your face then it's godly
00:30:18.600if it draws people to look to your face then it's godly if if your clothing is a frame to
00:30:28.080reveal your body or to accentuate your body or sexuality then it's sensual and the bible
00:30:35.500distraction yeah from what people should be looking to yeah you don't want to be known for1.00
00:30:41.380your butt or for your your you know your breasts like and again i understand that women have curves1.00
00:30:48.840like that we can't hide these things and i'm not saying that you need to you know cover them up in1.00
00:30:53.920a trash bag um um but but that sensuality is not beauty it's not eloquence it's not femininity
00:31:03.920it's it's a gross kind of sexual desire um that has become so comfortable in the church0.99
00:31:11.080and so comfortable in the culture and so um you want to take this topic on self-control
00:31:19.200sure so let's see if just as an example if you have lost some weight that's generally a great
00:31:30.720and wonderful thing and we're happy and proud of you for reaching your goals but ask yourself
00:31:35.520is it wise to show everyone on Instagram to post it on all of your social media outlets in revealing
00:31:43.680clothing typically sports bra and shorts or something but yes I have seen bra and underwear
00:31:48.180before um just ask yourself is this is this a wise thing to be doing sure share about it talk about
00:31:54.040it but be mindful in the way that you present it um or if your butt looks fit you've been doing
00:32:00.720lots of squats and you're getting real nice and toned does that mean that you have to show
00:32:05.060everybody on your social media platforms no yeah these these parts of your body are sacred they're
00:32:13.220holy they're separate they're in first corinthians chapter seven is that says that i don't have
00:32:19.840authority over my own body but my wife does and my wife doesn't have authority over her her own
00:32:24.500body but i do it's that the lord also it says in first corinthians chapter nine i think um or it
00:32:32.840could be chapter six it says for you are not your own you were bought with a price therefore glorify
00:32:40.940God in your body and in your spirit which are God's your body you don't get to go
00:32:49.380do what you want with it the Lord died for you and he owns your body your body
00:32:56.780is the temple of the Holy Spirit it's the temple of the Holy Spirit and then1.00
00:33:00.940your spouse owns your body next yeah and so Christian women we have to stop1.00
00:33:05.780allowing Christian women have to stop allowing themselves to be treated and0.99
00:33:09.500viewed in a way that is not dignified so if i generally don't typically struggle with i was0.74
00:33:16.260kind of like a tomboy my whole life so i've never really been super edgy in the way that i dress i'm
00:33:21.820just not naturally that way um but if for some reason i'm touching on this just because i know
00:33:26.140i'll probably have people writing me and asking me um if for some reason i am a little bit
00:33:33.200questionable about something that i'm wearing um i'll ask dale i'm like hey does is this okay
00:33:38.340or is this a little bit like immodest should i change um i probably ask you that question maybe
00:33:43.280twice a year yeah um but uh yeah if you are maybe going to be going on the journey of trying to
00:33:51.880dress a little bit more modest and you're unsure ask your husband or ask your brother or ask your
00:33:55.900dad ask a man that you can trust that will give you an honest answer yeah or girlfriend too but
00:34:02.100yeah generally a dad a brother will be pretty honest your husband a man yeah yeah um that's
00:34:08.140not going to look at you in a sexual way yeah um to help you out there yeah i think that's a really
00:34:13.820good point and it's been very good and it's what a humble thing to do and husbands there have
00:34:19.940actually been times where you tell me you're like oh no i think that's fine i'm just like
00:34:22.800well i'm still uncomfortable i'm gonna go change yeah and and husbands you know you get to help
00:34:27.980your wife gauge those moments. And I, as a husband, want to protect my wife. I don't want
00:34:33.820other men looking at my wife in a sexual manner. I don't want that at all. I want to protect her1.00
00:34:40.560body from the eyes. I don't want her being eye candy to some other man's imagination.
00:34:45.900And husbands, you need to, you know, you're a man. Don't play the fool with me because I1.00
00:34:51.520understand you know you're a man so pay attention to those moments and wives if you can't receive0.99
00:34:59.140a correction a loving correction from your own husband you got a big problem and and that's a
00:35:05.360problem that you need to confront of humility is because it's out of love that's his body he's
00:35:11.740looking at um that's the lord's body and so deep stuff all right the rest of those scriptures i'm
00:35:19.380going to break down a little bit. So it talks about that you can adorn yourself. The Lord
00:35:22.900actually wants you to adorn yourself in certain ways. And he wants you to adorn you with, um,
00:35:30.120this is, uh, he wants you to adorn you with righteousness, like adorn yourself with
00:35:35.620righteousness, with good works, with humility, with a, um, reserved body. You know, I, I just
00:35:43.240think there's something very mature about a woman who reserves her body for her husband
00:35:51.940we have single guy friends who just find that so attractive when it's like she's protecting her
00:35:58.720body so that the only person that gets to see it in that manner is her husband whoever that may be
00:36:05.160um and it also says that modesty could also be in the form of kind of character
00:36:11.780It's talking about, in 1 Peter, it says,
00:36:14.940But let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart, which is imperishable beauty,
00:36:19.320of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is in God's sight, is very precious.
00:36:27.060Okay, so if you're an assertive kind of, I want to be the focal point of the room,
00:36:32.800some of that might be part of the character that the Lord gave you,
00:36:36.240but we have to put some of that stuff into control of the doctrines of the scriptures.
00:36:40.980and, and realize that we're not overextending our own gifting there. Are you assertive? Are you
00:36:47.720being modest in your character? Men and women here on that. And we see this all the time. The guys
00:36:54.880are, there's so many ways that guys are mostly immodest in their pride and just being like
00:37:02.320talking about their achievements and, and like flaunting, you know, like that's where men come0.62
00:37:07.360out and it's it's gross it's unattractive to women um it's prideful it's arrogance and just
00:37:14.620kind of this look at me kind of personality is not godly um the bible says that the man that
00:37:22.200he opposes the proud how much opposition do you want men um and uh i'm gonna just close this with
00:41:10.260He's kind of taking these physical things and making them heart issues.
00:41:15.520One statement that's really important that was just kind of handed down to me from the guy who discipled me says that sin doesn't happen to us.