Ultimate Marriage #16： 3 Rules For Creating An Affair-Proof Marriage
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In this episode, Dale and Veronica discuss how to create an affair-proof marriage. They talk about how to deal with infidelities in your marriage, what to look out for, and what to do about it.
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welcome to ultimate marriage today we're going to be talking about three rules for creating an
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affair-proof marriage okay the big huge bummer about this whole show is that we already filmed
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it. And for some reason, Veronica's microphone didn't record. We've checked that now. You can
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hear her. And so today we're going to be talking about creating an affair-proof marriage and what
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that actually looks like. Yeah. And so before we dive in, because it's a big topic, which I think
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today is going to be a really impactful show. I think it's going to be an important show. I think
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it'll be a very useful show. One thing I say often is that content isn't king, usefulness is. So
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hopefully these are very useful tips we'll talk about. We have a show on YouTube. So if you're
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watching this on YouTube, you can subscribe to our channel. We'd really appreciate that. We roll out
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couples that hopefully the content is fruitful for. So a couple of the things I want to talk
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about before we dive in. One is follow us on Instagram. If you guys don't follow us on
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Instagram, Veronica has a beautifully curated style of children. Not curated at all. I'm like
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barely edit my photos throw anything up but she's still got 17 000 people that are following along
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on her it's pretty much dale's runoff of followers i get all the runoff and uh and so but also you
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could follow me i post weekly about marriage veronica's stories are better than my stories
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my posts are more i guess spiritually useful than her post hers are mostly about the children
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But yeah, you can just find her at Veronica I Partridge or me at Dale Partridge on Instagram.
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And then one last thing before we dive in to the conversation.
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We want to challenge you guys to read the Bible, the entire Bible.
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And only 11% of Christians have read the entire Bible.
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That means 89% of Christians haven't read the entire Bible.
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And it's very difficult to interpret the parts correctly without understanding the whole.
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And so it's important to just kind of go through the Bible one time.
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I mean, more than one time, but at least one time.
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And so if you're on the fence about doing this, Veronica has been going through the Bible for a year.
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There's been a few seasons of taking breaks because of trials that we've been walking through, miscarriage, Lyme disease.
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I was stuck in bed for a good month pretty much so but sick like not feeling well so I wasn't
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reading but yeah it's going well I'm in Psalms and 2nd Corinthians yeah so this has been really
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cool to watch her go through and it's a simple I mean it's really about four chapters a day
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that's all it is maybe 15 to 20 minutes but we have a plan for you guys you guys can download
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it for free at ultimate marriage.com forward slash Bible. And you just download the PDF.
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It's beautiful. It's easy. You can check off your daily reading and get through the entire
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Bible. So we want to encourage you guys to do that. Okay. So let's dive in to the topic
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of affairs. Nobody plans on their wedding day to have an affair. Yet 50% of all marriages
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are going to experience a fair 50 percent um you know that's just there's some crazy stats
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you got to put together to get that number but realize the reality is is that this happens all
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the time yeah we whoever's listening and including you and i like we all probably know somebody who
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has been a victim of a fair or you know been the person that has committed adultery or affair
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um and uh you know the the shocker of what we're going to talk about today
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that are working than women because of motherhood.
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And so, guys, this is definitely going to be tailored
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and then ladies, keep an eye out for your husbands.
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in a very healthy way. So we'll talk about that. We have to not be naive that we're, we are not
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immune to divorce. Even Veronica and I don't think that we're immune to divorce. We're not immune to
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the threats that are in the, in the world that are trying to drive us apart. We are proactively
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protecting our marriage because there has been better, stronger, more mature couples who have
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fallen we see pastors fall all the time yeah and it's been married much longer married much longer
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it's because we have to be on guard and this is what this this podcast is about being on guard
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and what that looks like so veronica is going to give us some glossary stuff for today yeah so
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talking about affairs there are always two words that come to mind when we go on that topic and
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the two words uh are similar but have different definitions and those two words are infidelity
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and adultery so the definition of infidelity is the action or state of being unfaithful to a spouse
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and adultery is voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not
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his or her spouse so in most cases a workplace affair begins with infidelity and then leads
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into adultery yeah yeah so uh it's it's important to just clarify the two they are different
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You know, infidelity, you know, might be like texting, inappropriate texting.
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Emotional affairs is what psychologists have called these ideas of an emotional affair or, you know, just improper sexual conduct with somebody else.
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And, you know, these gestures that kind of turn a platonic friendship into a romantic relationship.
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This is pretty common to see. And psychologists, yeah, they've called it emotional affairs. But
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the reality is that we're really dealing with just sin. That's what it is. If you're walking
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in an improper relationship with your spouse. So let's start talking about the three things that
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we do in our life to help kind of protect ourselves against this. So number one is don't
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underestimate the f-word now not the f-word that we're all thinking here get your mind out of the
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gutter um i've seen far too many women say um oh he's just got a flirtatious personality like
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that's just you know you know that's just who he is um and i i just don't buy that i think that any
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man who is flirtatious is a man who doesn't love his wife um and you know you mentioned uh in our
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last show of this episode yeah um the flirtatious personality could also be not necessarily talking
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about her husband who is maybe flirting with somebody else which is obviously not okay
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but somebody in their workplace so um i've often heard women talk about oh a co-worker who is a
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man saying oh you don't need to be worried to their husband this guy just has a flirtatious
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personality he's like that with all the girls at work yeah and that guy could be single or or
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married um but i i call these uh these things that form out of flirtation as flirtationships
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and workplace flirtationships are workplace affairs they're they're a flirtationship is
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really the first bullet shot at the at the heart of your marriage um and so let's let's look at
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some scripture um for what the bible talks about in the idea of flirting yeah so matthew 5 28 it
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It says, but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
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So just to clarify, adultery with her in his heart.
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Yeah, it wasn't the physical act of having intercourse with somebody else that's not your spouse.
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And, you know, Chuck Swindoll, I think, said it.
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Adultery begins in the head far before it occurs in the bed.
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And we got to remember that, that this is a head game.
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Jesus knows that this stuff starts in the heart.
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and so um i want to remind you what the word flirtation is means and this is like straight
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out of the dictionary uh flirtation is defined as suggestive behavior with sexual intent
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and so um oh he's just suggestive with sexual intent like no big deal that's what's really
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saying like flirtatiousness is sensuality it's gross it's it's if it's not with your wife or
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your spouse or with the person that you're going to marry um and be very careful even with that
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yeah um and so yeah men if a woman's flirting with you this is kind of one of these things that you
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know we've only had to always really really worry about the men but but more and more women are
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turning into they're much more aggressive or much more forward in their approach when they see a man
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that they desire to be with or get his attention.
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or I'm going to wear this yoga pants to work today
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They're going to use their immodesty to lure men in.
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but I think a lot of women know what's going on.
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And so we're going to read what the Proverbs tell men
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to do when they deal with a woman of such situations.
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Yeah, and this, I would say, goes both ways.
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To preserve you from evil women, from the, sorry,
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and do not let her capture you with her eyelashes.
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Yeah, so, yeah, this has been going around for a long time.
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and yeah accepting flirtation in your marriage from somebody else is actually accepting the
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bait of satan yes it is totally the bait of satan and there's a cost in protecting your marriage and
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deflecting sexual signals and gestures and we get to pay that price joyfully by turning it down
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setting up boundaries putting up guards all those things happen um and yeah we get to pay the price
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I want to remind you just what the scriptures call us to think on.
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and not to be thinking on lustful, suggestive intent,
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Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable,
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whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely,
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whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence,
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Think about these things. And so, yeah, you know, all the things that come in your mind when you start to flirt with somebody that's not your wife, or receive a flirtatious gesture from someone that's not your spouse. That's, yeah, think on these things.
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And for the listeners who may not fully grasp this concept, can you explain, like, a temptation versus the sin?
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Yeah, so there's a difference between—the book of Hebrews says that Jesus was tempted.
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It says that, you know, we do not have a high priest who has not been tempted,
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but he's been tempted in all ways, yet without sin.
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And so temptation, it's not a sin to be tempted.
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Billy Graham was asked years ago, probably, I think, when he was maybe in his 60s,
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hey, what would you do, Billy, if someone put a Playboy centerfold in front of your face?
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And he goes, well, I would look at that and say, what a beautiful creature.
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And I thought that was a really good answer of just going, you can't control what happens in front of you.
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moving on yeah you can't control what your eyes see but you can control what they are fixed up
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is fixed upon yeah and it's not just the first look isn't sin that's just uncontrollable reality
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the second look is sin looking back getting in your mind looking thinking those thoughts
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and so um yeah something to think about um point number two so the first one was yeah flirtation
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ships and flirtatious personalities all that stuff dangerous don't don't underestimate the
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f-word yeah um the second one number two you're gonna get a trip out of this one get a divorce
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now did we talking about getting a divorce from your spouse no we are talking about getting a
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divorce from your work wife or work husband okay this if if you're married or if you're in a
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relationship with some other person at work and they carry the title oh that's my work wife
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or my work husband get out of that thing now well and i would be uh i would even say to be cautious
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and stop a relationship with somebody that you work with that you maybe you don't call them
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your work wife or your work husband spouse whatever but there's like oh this is my best
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friend we're just really close we just really get along we really click like if they're of
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the opposite sex and you were married and they are married be careful yeah yeah there's you know i
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wrote uh these workplace relationships or whatever they are um relationships these workplace
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relationships typically imply a special public bond these titles between two people that almost
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always lead to inappropriate intimacy and it could be inappropriate intimacy and just an emotional
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level a friendship level yeah like i just don't allow another woman to have any of that territory
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that veronica has um and and so we need to be on guard on that idea and i want to show you
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men because i'm gonna talk to the men but this can happen to the woman too um god designed men
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uh to i actually i'll start with the women god designed a woman to desire a man who leads
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who provides who protects who gives instruction connects emotionally connects emotionally
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respects like and then he desired men to designed or just yeah look at me I'm well desired to yeah
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designed men to desire a woman who follows who follows through who listens who who respects him
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and so you you take that that that design of a male and a female and you put it on top of
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what's happening at a workplace relationship with like a boss and an assistant or a superior and a
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inferior employee um a subordinate and you you all of a sudden realize that like this is why how
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you know so many pastors fall to their assistants this is why so many ceos fall to their secretaries
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it's because you're you're like playing out and acting out this like beautiful relationship
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the man is leading the woman is following he's getting all these things uh he's providing for
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her she's getting all these things done for him there's a mutual respect like it's it's a beautiful
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structure. It's why it works. And it's why so many people fall. And so, yeah, I just want you
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guys to be aware of what's really happening outside, like the spiritual, emotional side of
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what's going on in your workplace relationships. Because there's a reason that the woman who goes
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to the church starts getting attracted to the pastor. Oh, he's shepherding me. He's guiding me.
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he's strong he's a good man you know nothing compared to my husband here at home you know
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like that's how how that can be happen that's how it happens anyways yeah and the work wife and the
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work husband title is not an uncommon thing either it's quite popular and it's actually getting more
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popular there's a recent study that shows it's becoming increasingly popular um and the study
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by the career information site vault.com found that 28 of those surveyed said they had an office
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husband or wife while a survey of 640 male and female white collar workers found that 65% of
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employees have or have had a workplace spouse in the past. Yeah. So like a third of people have
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one now and like two thirds of people have had one at some point. That's craziness.
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And so we got to remember people that men and women never crumble in a day.
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and once your work spouse has fulfilled your needs enough um you know they kind of build that
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emotional relationship they start looking you start looking forward to being with them the
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next day you start building that kind of excitement the relationship kind of intrigue and you start
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confiding in them yeah you start confiding in them start sharing things intimate details with them
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that you should only be discussing with your spouse yeah you're texting them after work whatever
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it might be and then all of a sudden you're you know intimate you're going on a date and
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and it's dinner it's just professional but all of a sudden yeah you're having sex with your work
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spouse behind your real spouse's back that's really what happens I mean that's what happens
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it happens thousands of times per day so just recognize that that you know even if you're way
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early on that journey that's where that journey leads to if you're not careful most importantly
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I want to talk about this. This is some note I wrote down. You're using a sacred title.
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That word spouse is a sacred title that opens the door for someone else to playfully perform
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emotional and relational duties that are strictly to be carried out by your real spouse.
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And so when you use that title, they get to, you know, act and behave like, oh, like I'm going to
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care for you or love you or buy you things or that's what a woman might do or hey, I'm going to
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yeah, provide for you, take care of you, look out for you as a man might too. It opens up the door
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for that kind of role-playing stuff that's really gross and dark and very dangerous for your
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marriage. You know, your spouse has paid an incredible price for that title. And to give
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it out to somebody else in any way is totally, totally sinful. So yeah, if you have a work
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spouse right now, time to divorce that work spouse. Get rid of that so that we can move on
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to a healthy marriage. Number three is never be alone. This is our next step. So we talked about
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flirtatiousness. We talked about work relationships. Now we're going to talk about never being alone.
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And I really value Veronica, and we put thousands of hours into our marriage. I was actually on our
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last show that you'll never hear i said the this idea that like man i thought about if veronica
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dies that it would just be so horrible because i'd spent so many hours we spent so much time
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investing into this marriage yeah yeah it would be such a loss yeah that'd be really tough to
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just start over from day one like all right woman this new woman okay let's start from the beginning
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that'd be horrible i'm sure you'd be much more excited than that um yeah that's awkward
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conversation sorry all right so um okay so a few um years ago veronica i made a uh conversation
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and a new boundary and i'll let her kind of share that conviction and how it played out yeah we had
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um just come to a come to an agreement that we would never intentionally be intent oh my goodness
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i get so tongue-tied when i'm talking um that we would never intentionally be left alone with
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another person of the opposite sex. So whether that means you have a work meeting that happens
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to be with a woman, then you're bringing somebody with you. Um, or if we've got a babysitter who's
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a female, you're going to be working outside of the house that day. You're not going to be there.
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Yeah. And this is just a common practice. It's hard to do. It's always inconvenient.
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Protecting your marriage isn't convenient. It's never going to be convenient. It's always being
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on guard. It's protective, which means that it's work. Um, and so, yeah, we've just made a decision
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to, um, to do that. And we do this in other places too. Yeah. So it may not necessarily
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be physically alone with another person, but even like with texting, um, we will attach each other
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to a text message. So if I, like, for example, back in April, it was Dale's birthday. I wanted
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to get a video put together for him but the person I knew that I wanted to edit it was a man
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and so obviously I wanted it to be a surprise for Dale I wasn't going to attach Dale to it so I
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called a friend of mine and asked her hey can I attach you to this text message chain
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just to have accountability and out of respect for Dale I need to be in communication with him
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she's like yeah totally that's fine go ahead but in most circumstances I will tag you in a text
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in such a chain or i'll even attach that man's wife to the chain as well just to be respectful
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yeah i mean there's our friends uh erin and jen smith they have a podcast called marriage after
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god they're really good friends of ours and have kind of a similar spiritual dna as us um and uh
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they've been friends with us for about 10 years but jen's a writer i'm a writer and so sometimes
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i'll ping jen but i i'll copy veronica or i'll copy erin her husband and so there's just never
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you know any we're just intentional do we does it does it imply that i'm attracted to jen and
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need to be careful no it's just that we're we're being proactive on on uh protecting our marriage
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and we do this across the board as often as we can um sometimes you can't make a way but we we
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try and that's what we're trying to do constantly is try not to be alone um with anybody if we can
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um and i know for a lot of people especially the guys that are at work i mean and ladies
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to be, not be alone with somebody at work is very hard. Yeah. Sometimes it's impossible
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depending on what you're doing for work. Yeah. And so I have a friend who works in the corporate
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setting and he goes, yeah, one thing I try to do is he tries to do, if he has a meeting with a
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woman alone, he tries to leave the door open and he just, he just makes that happen. The second
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thing is, and if someone asks him to close the door, he just goes, you know what? I'd rather not.
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I'm just trying to protect my reputation. And you know, there's just so much sexual harassment stuff
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in the workplace, and I just, it's one of my policies that I'd like to keep the door open if
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we can. We actually have, so two, I guess, stories. We actually have a friend who took their child to
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the pediatrician. Pediatrician is a woman, and you know, all doctors, when you walk in, they close
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the door, and he goes, actually, can you leave the door open? Just out of respect. She's just like,
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kind of looked at him weird, and we're just like, oh yeah, sure, okay. And then another friend of
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ours um back when their children were a little bit younger they have eight now so they've got
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a wide range in ages um but he i remember him saying that you know if i needed to give the
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babysitter a drive um a drive home after she watched our kids i would bring one of my older
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kids with us yeah yeah just another another witness uh to be accountable to and um yeah
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that's in front of the workplace would also say hey if we're gonna do a meeting like they have a
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glass conference room. They try to do the glass conference room. So there's just visible
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accountability all the time. And so just, just work at that. And, you know, we got to remember
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that Satan's going to attack us at our low point. And so when you're in a fight with your wife,
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a bad season in your marriage, whatever it is, and all of a sudden, you know, you get to go out
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in this private work meeting and then you start one thing leads to another, you, you know, you
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have this conversation, you confide in this person, you then kind of put that on top of that you're
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at a conference away from home on top of drinks uh on the weekend on top of nighttime and you can
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see how these kind of things you know don't be alone is really what what's uh what's going at
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and um uh yeah so veronica's going to share some scripture about that concept yeah so first
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corinthians 10 23 all things are lawful but not all things are helpful all things are lawful but
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not all things built up so what that basically means is your love will limit your liberties
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Yeah, I mean, our love for our spouse will limit the liberties.
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Can you go have a private meeting with another person of the opposite sex?
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But your love will limit that liberty because you want to protect yourself and you protect your wife.
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And that's why we don't drink in front of the, you know, let's say, hey guys, let's all go out and have a beer.
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You know, when your buddy is just trying to break alcoholism.
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Your liberty to drink and to have a drink is is is, I guess, relinquished because you have your love for your brother.
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And so love limits liberties. Yeah. And so the next scripture is Galatians 6, 7.
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Do not be do not be deceived. God is not mocked for whatever one sows that will he also reap.
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yeah he's the scripture is saying that it's a promise if you don't be shocked like it was so
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funny when the um everybody was shocked that all these men were like in in hollywood were so
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incredibly sexually deviant and like raping women and and being you know doing all these horrible
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things to women and i go okay so wait it's like we sowed a bunch of corn seeds into a field and
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a bunch of corns growing now and we're like oh my gosh there's corn everywhere like no all the
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movies are about sex all the tv shows are about sex they're all about pornography they're all about
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all types of sexual acts and then all of a sudden one of the movie stars acts that way and you're
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shocked no like it's you reap what you sow and this is a promise be careful men and women where
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are you reaping? That's the big question I want
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Billy Graham and Kirk Cameron, I'm going to talk about
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there was a woman in the elevator, he'd just wait
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engages people who want to take photos with him. His
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being alone is not taking photos with a woman by herself um and or at least with somebody not in
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the background so that they can't know if there is the woman in the photo he wants to make sure
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there are people in the background yeah and i think that his intention also just be like more
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than multiple people in a photo but he's he's he's just cognizant of that and that's what i want to
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call you guys to invest there um and if you guys um have crossed the line already emotionally
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repent turn turn around if you've crossed the line physically like where you're actually
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committing adultery um you need to repent and tell your spouse at the same time so you repent
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to your spouse and you know the reason i say you don't need to do that maybe with the other one
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before you get to determine on your own journey but but um determine how far it's gone um but
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you can turn around now you can stop it set up the boundaries it might be awkward you might need
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to burn a relationship who cares your marriage is the priority that's that's that's the reality of
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it all okay we are going to move into a question um and i'll let veronica read it even though the
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question is directed to you all right this week's question veronica i'm a mother of three and i know
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what it is like to be so busy that it hurts but what does your bible time look like how do you
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keep a steady flow of learning in the midst of young children around all the time well i can
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totally understand what you're talking about i have three young children um my kids are four and
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half two and a half and one um but when my youngest was born I had three three and under
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so yeah it's exhausting it's a lot of work um so let me see first I would say if you're not
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plugged into a biblical community get plugged into one um because it is life-giving on those
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hard days that you have with your young children to be able to shoot out a text to some of the
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women in your fellowship to pray for you or to encourage you in what you're walking through
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especially if you've got older wiser women who have been there before who've had the same amount
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of kids or more who've walked those walked in those same shoes um so that way they can be pouring
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into you also um I can just kind of share what I do um our kids are not allowed to get out of bed
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until 7 30 so a lot of times they'll wake up before then but they're not allowed out of their
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room until 7 30 in the morning. So I wake up at six o'clock every day. Um, somewhere between six
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and six 15 and I go into my lovely, very glamorous closet, my walk-in closet. It's not actually
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glamorous, but, um, I do have a walk-in closet and I go in there and I work out in there.
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I read my Bible and I get ready for the day all before the kids wake up. So, um, the reason why
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I work out first is because I am not a morning person. It is so hard for me to wake up at 6am
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every day um and so i work out to wake myself up that's another big reason why i decided to start
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waking up before the kids was because i know that i'm not a morning person when i would wake up when
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they got up i would just be grouchy and irritable and tired and i didn't want them to remember mom
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when they're you know older and looking back on their childhood is oh mom was always in a bad mood
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and she woke up in the morning she was just together yeah and so i just thought about them
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and I didn't like that and so I decided to start waking up earlier than them so yeah I wake up six
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go into my closet I work out for 15 to 30 minutes just depends on the day um once I'm done with
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that and I feel awake I start to read my bible and I'll read anywhere from I don't know three
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to six chapters also just depends on time and uh what I've got going on that day once I'm done
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with that then I move into since I'm already in my closet getting dressed and um hair and makeup
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whatever um and just getting ready for the day so nine times out of ten by the time 7 30 rolls
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around i've had an hour and a half to myself and i'm usually almost always ready by the time the
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kids come downstairs and yeah i'm energized i've already read my bible i've already worked out i've
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already gotten ready for the day so i just feel and you just i just feel so much better about
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myself i feel ready for the day the whole day is always better when she gets through her her kind
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of routine there um and i wanted to say a couple notes one of you start opened up with biblical
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community um if you don't know what biblical community is um we have a non-profit uh that
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we it's called relearnchurch.org and um on helping establish and plant biblical churches there's a lot
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of articles and videos and things like that on that website you can check out um because yeah
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it is hard to find um a lot you know but if you can just find a handful of biblical women and men
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that you guys can walk as couples with that's really what people are looking for um and yeah
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so yeah it's good to see her do that she's listening to podcasts here and there listening
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to audiobooks yeah so usually after i'm done revival in that time of me getting ready and
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doing my hair yeah that's when i'm usually listening to an audiobook or worship music or
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something um and then there are mornings two days a week where i go out and i work out in a studio
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And so since I don't get my Bible reading in the morning,
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usually when Dale's like in the shower or something.
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I mean, ladies and men, we need to know the word
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and it's because we are drenching our minds with it.
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Just go to ultimatemarriage.com forward slash Bible.
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just download it and we'd love to have you go on that journey um i'll close us out with our
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memory verse this week um really quick one more thing i was gonna say just just get it in when
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you can it doesn't have to be the exact same thing every day especially when you're in a season of
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life with busy little kids and it's hard to have a consistent schedule get it in when you can today
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i went and i got the oil changed in the car and got a car wash and thankfully um i had a babysitter
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so I didn't have distractions, but I sat there for an hour and read my Bible in the car wash
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waiting room. Yeah. So awesome. Get it in when you can. Awesome. Um, I also have a mentor of
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mine told me that she has a recipe book holder that she keeps in her kitchen and she keeps her
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Bible on that. So when you're a Sado mom, you're always in your kitchen, cooking, cooking, snacks,
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you're in there three meals a day. And, um, so she goes and I just had it in my kitchen. And so
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And anytime I'd walk by, I'd read another verse.
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So this week's memory verse, we expect you guys to try to memorize scripture.
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It's important to have scripture available in your mind.
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And I watched, I chose the scripture because I think it's important to recognize the, I guess, the promise of it.
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And so it's Galatians 6-7. We read it earlier. Do not be deceived. God is not mocked for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. Our actions, our habits, our lifestyles, they're big, big, big consequences for how we live. We reap what we sow. And so I'd love for you guys to try to memorize that again. That's Galatians 6-7.
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just again if you'd be willing to leave a review
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on that note. See you next time. Yeah, we will see you guys next Wednesday on Ultimate Marriage.
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