Dale Partridge - December 19, 2018


Ultimate Marriage #24: Setting Biblical Boundaries on Movies, Media, and Music


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In this episode, we talk about setting biblical boundaries for movies, media, and music in our homes. What are we allowed to watch, what are we not, and what do we not allow in our home?

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to Ultimate Marriage. Today we are talking about setting biblical boundaries 0.85
00:00:13.620 for movies, media, and music. Yeah, so we're going to talk about this. I think the main
00:00:20.140 section is going to be talking about movies and shows because that's kind of the biggest
00:00:24.460 way that people consume media outside of social media. This isn't a conversation about social
00:00:28.440 media that much. It's really a conversation about what are we entertained by? What do we allow in
00:00:33.740 our homes? What are we going to unify on what we allow on? Because that's generally different in
00:00:39.400 almost every marriage that we've seen is that, you know, the guy might be more comfortable with
00:00:44.980 this. The girl isn't comfortable with that. And there's this battle that we get of, you know, 0.61
00:00:50.780 what is good? What is not good? What is sinful to watch? What is not sinful to watch? What are you
00:00:55.780 comfortable with? What are you not comfortable with? How do we deal with those things in our
00:00:59.640 marriage? Um, anything to say on that? I think that, um, you know, we've had this struggle over
00:01:06.820 the years, right? Like this is something that we've, you know, Veronica's doesn't like something
00:01:11.000 that I'm like, Oh, okay. I think that's okay. Or I like something and she doesn't think that it's
00:01:15.020 okay. And so there's, um, we've had these conversations. This is very real conversation
00:01:19.980 for our marriage and a journey that we've even been through. Um, so how does this apply to
00:01:23.760 marriage, I'm assuming you've had conversations about this. Media is a big part of the modern
00:01:30.440 life, you know, from your phone, from your TV shows, from your movies, from the music that
00:01:34.740 you listen to. I think we're mostly consuming media much of the day. So before we jump in
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00:02:45.960 Okay, I love movies, and Veronica doesn't.
00:02:51.220 Share your story about movies.
00:02:52.640 Like, how do you view movies?
00:02:54.520 I feel like it's a waste of my time.
00:02:57.620 I would much rather be productive in cleaning my home or getting laundry done
00:03:03.140 or hanging out with a friend, having a meaningful conversation,
00:03:07.120 than sitting down watching a movie.
00:03:08.640 And you would think that would be like how I think about it because I'm the guy that likes to do, you know, the teach and the study and all those things.
00:03:15.480 But movies are a relaxing way for my brain.
00:03:18.900 For you, it's like the only way to shut your brain off.
00:03:22.020 Yeah.
00:03:22.980 Because to be entertained somewhere else.
00:03:24.600 To be zoned out or something by watching a movie.
00:03:27.880 Yeah.
00:03:29.160 Where my form of relaxation is like taking a nap and just laying down or resting.
00:03:34.640 Yeah.
00:03:34.880 Not watching a movie.
00:03:36.420 Yeah.
00:03:36.580 so we've you know now don't get me wrong there's there's movies here and there that'll come up
00:03:41.120 that i like but for the most part i'm very rarely interested in watching a movie yeah there's a
00:03:46.100 handful of movies that veronica likes and we'll watch those sporadically through the year or
00:03:52.500 every other year sick yeah or if it's you know we've been cooped up inside because of winter
00:03:57.920 for too long yeah or you're in labor or hey yeah i do watch movies and i'm in labor yeah that's
00:04:03.960 that's another place that we'll, I'll finally get her to sit down and, and enjoy a movie for a 0.74
00:04:07.940 little bit. Take her mind off of that. Um, yeah, I love movies. I love, you know, my favorite movie 1.00
00:04:12.080 is probably the Count of Monte Cristo, um, uh, with Jim Caviezel, I think is his name. He's in
00:04:18.340 that movie. He's the guy that played Jesus. So it's super holy, um, back to the future trilogy.
00:04:24.780 That's probably again, one of my all-time favorite. I love the back to the future trilogy,
00:04:28.660 Saving Private Ryan
00:04:30.280 I just finished watching Operation Finale
00:04:33.300 which is a really cool story
00:04:36.760 about the outcomings of World War II
00:04:40.520 but don't get me wrong
00:04:42.780 I actually don't watch movies that much
00:04:44.800 I used to
00:04:45.780 but I watch a couple movies a year
00:04:48.440 I think yeah once we start having kids
00:04:50.040 it's just impossible to watch a movie
00:04:53.200 without an interruption
00:04:54.540 or if the kids are asleep
00:04:56.060 we fall asleep before the movie can end
00:04:57.960 Yeah. So like tired. Yeah. If I'm sick, that's when I get a chance to watch a movie. Or if I like
00:05:03.220 and just totally need to go have a rest day, I might put on a movie. But movies aren't a part
00:05:07.700 of our weekly activity. That's not something that we do as a family. And neither are TV shows.
00:05:14.340 You know, we'll watch some Everybody Loves Raymond. As you guys know, that's a funny joke
00:05:17.680 for our, we've been watching it for so many years. But even then. Just Dale and I, to be clear. Yeah.
00:05:23.480 We're not watching it with the kids.
00:05:24.720 But the idea is that we still don't watch a lot of TV shows.
00:05:28.740 We haven't watched a modern TV show in years.
00:05:32.400 That's just not something that we do in our home.
00:05:34.900 And the kids aren't watching modern movies and modern TV shows really much either.
00:05:40.880 And so this is a conversation of how we've kind of come to the people that we are with entertainment and media.
00:05:46.920 And it has been a journey to get to this place.
00:05:50.780 um and you know tv consumes more and more of you um once you start watching it and you start to
00:06:00.600 feel like it belongs and that if you if you don't have it um you don't know how you get along
00:06:07.120 without it and that that's when it starts to take a place in your heart and in your mind and in your
00:06:12.320 day that really should only be taken by god or your family and so tv in general media in general
00:06:19.360 does absolutely steal a portion of your life that basically turns into an idol it does yeah so how
00:06:26.060 should we determine what is appropriate to watch or to listen to in our homes um dale and i get
00:06:31.300 questions all the time emailed to us written to us on instagram wherever um from wives usually
00:06:36.560 asking what they should do when their husbands insist on watching a movie or a show that has
00:06:41.980 some type of sexual content or nude nudity, cursing, killing, just lewd and vulgar.
00:06:49.320 So how do you follow biblical principles without just taking your TV and throwing away, which,
00:06:55.340 hey, you can do that too. Yeah. I'm all for that. Yeah. But, um, or TV room or yeah. So
00:07:02.180 we have a few questions that we want to ask you guys to help you examine your heart
00:07:06.920 and to make decisions that will keep you holy, obedient, and wise
00:07:11.580 when it comes to media.
00:07:15.200 Yeah, and it's something that makes your marriage feel secure and safe
00:07:18.240 and your kids feel secure and safe.
00:07:20.700 It's boundaries, putting up boundaries.
00:07:22.200 It is, and yeah, and so we're going to talk about
00:07:25.480 why we put up boundaries, how important this is.
00:07:27.380 This is a really important, and I would say pretty deep conversation today,
00:07:30.780 so if you feel like it's like, oh, movies, that's what we're talking about,
00:07:33.940 trust me, we're going to go a little bit to the deep end of the pool here in a minute.
00:07:36.580 So it isn't just about movies.
00:07:39.800 It actually has nothing to do with movies.
00:07:41.440 It has everything to do with sin, with obedience, with love, with holiness.
00:07:45.660 It has to do with your heart.
00:07:46.300 With your heart.
00:07:46.980 Yeah.
00:07:47.280 So the first question that we are going to ask you is, are you entertained by what God hates?
00:07:53.720 Hey, this is still you.
00:07:54.580 These are still your notes.
00:07:55.100 I know.
00:07:55.140 I'm just saying.
00:07:55.860 I'm just letting there be a pause for dramatic effect.
00:07:59.440 Come on, babe.
00:08:00.980 Are you entertained by what God hates?
00:08:04.400 You know, humor has such a good job.
00:08:06.100 Like, humor can literally mask and sanitize anything to somehow make it palatable.
00:08:13.760 Yeah, it desensitizes you.
00:08:15.400 It totally does.
00:08:16.420 So, do you find joy in movies and shows that promote divorce or lying or stealing or adultery?
00:08:23.380 Do you enjoy the suspense of horror movies or are you amused by death?
00:08:28.740 Yeah.
00:08:29.180 I personally am not.
00:08:30.760 Me neither.
00:08:31.160 Do you watch TV shows with nudity or sexual or explicit content?
00:08:37.220 Yes.
00:08:37.540 Which pretty much seems to be everywhere.
00:08:39.860 You just can't get away from it.
00:08:42.040 You can't get away from it.
00:08:42.820 Especially in modern television.
00:08:44.100 In modern television, yeah.
00:08:45.320 And that's why we don't watch hardly any modern television.
00:08:49.440 So, yeah, you know, personally, this is, you know, guys, speaking to the guys here,
00:08:53.360 I would say I have a pretty high tolerance for violence.
00:08:57.280 I have a high tolerance for even some bad language.
00:09:01.160 I have come over the years to have zero tolerance for nudity.
00:09:06.880 And the reason is because the violence, it's make-believe.
00:09:11.720 The bad language, it's being acted out.
00:09:14.520 Well, and generally, the movies that you watch that are violent or have bad language in them
00:09:18.380 are like military historical movies.
00:09:21.200 War movies.
00:09:21.520 War movies, yeah.
00:09:22.500 They're like showing things like that.
00:09:24.480 Not like, I'm going to go murder this dude in the back alley.
00:09:26.960 Like, I'm not into that kind of stuff.
00:09:28.280 But yeah, so the reason is that the violence is make-believe, and that's why I can have that high tolerance. 0.92
00:09:36.240 The bad language is, again, it's being acted out, but the lady is actually naked, and I'm actually watching.
00:09:45.120 And so that's the problem, is that that is very real.
00:09:48.360 And so while the other things aren't real, that is real.
00:09:51.280 And so there's a bit of a difference between those two things. 1.00
00:09:54.280 you know some of the ladies probably aren't as comfortable with the violence or the gore 1.00
00:09:58.780 in terms of a military movie like Saving Private Ryan or something or even sometimes with the
00:10:04.140 language of those things again and some guys might not be either that's just my personal
00:10:09.320 thing but I draw the line on that and and that seems to be a big conversation between a lot of
00:10:15.740 families yeah and I don't generally mind you watching those kinds of things I'm very sensitive
00:10:20.080 to any type of killing
00:10:23.660 or excessive lewd language.
00:10:28.660 I'm just very sensitive to that.
00:10:29.940 I just don't watch it at all.
00:10:31.140 We have to remember
00:10:31.600 God made men differently than women. 0.98
00:10:33.180 And this is one of those examples. 1.00
00:10:34.460 There's a reason that men 1.00
00:10:35.540 can go to war 0.97
00:10:37.200 week after week,
00:10:40.320 month after month,
00:10:41.140 seeing people die,
00:10:42.560 being killed,
00:10:43.400 and still wake up the next day 0.99
00:10:45.060 and do it again. 1.00
00:10:46.500 Women aren't designed to do that. 1.00
00:10:48.280 And the same thing plays out 1.00
00:10:49.240 when you're in a war movie so yeah don't expect your wife to go and just watch a war movie i know
00:10:53.840 some women can um but i don't know i can i don't know any man who walks away from a horrific
00:10:59.220 like a horror movie vulgar or sexually explicit film um and is more godly because of it
00:11:08.920 that's not what happens it doesn't make you more like god if you're entertained by horror
00:11:14.880 or by sexually explicit content or drug use
00:11:19.360 or, like, some of these, like, really gross stuff.
00:11:22.060 It doesn't make you more godly.
00:11:24.960 And, you know, what's really happening is these movies
00:11:28.980 that have this explicit content, it's desensitizing you to sin.
00:11:34.020 It's making you kind of comfortable with it.
00:11:37.060 It's more common, you know.
00:11:39.540 And it also deadens our capacity for joy.
00:11:43.580 And I thought this was it.
00:11:44.520 I was doing some research on this,
00:11:46.100 and it was John Piper that said that line.
00:11:48.940 It deadens your capacity for joy.
00:11:50.680 And I thought, ooh, that's really good.
00:11:53.080 Because that's true.
00:11:54.780 If you imagine somebody who watches this kind of stuff,
00:11:57.860 it just fills their mind with this filth.
00:12:01.560 It really steals away your ability to be joyful. 0.80
00:12:05.740 You start framing up a worldview that's just a little bit gross.
00:12:10.380 and they literally steal away, these movies will steal away the thing that makes you so attractive
00:12:16.580 to an onlooking world, which is joy and hope. And you start watching enough of this stuff
00:12:22.780 and filling your head and heart with enough of this stuff, and it actually strips away the thing
00:12:27.740 that God actually puts upon us to make us attractive to the lost. And so I'm going to put
00:12:34.740 it bluntly the only nude woman's body that a man should be looking at is the man or is that of his 0.94
00:12:41.200 wife's and so if you see now there's a difference i know sometimes you guys are watching a movie
00:12:46.480 together and you've never seen it before and a nude scene pops up okay men it's your job to
00:12:51.720 immediately if you can click click stop or click pause fast forward that scene make a distinction
00:12:58.000 are we going to keep watching this is it likely this is going to be continuing on in the movie
00:13:01.660 or is this maybe just a one-off thing?
00:13:04.260 You know, you're going to have to make a decision
00:13:06.020 or you just turn it off.
00:13:08.400 It's not that big of a deal
00:13:10.240 just to just turn the movie off
00:13:11.680 to make your wife feel comfortable.
00:13:14.780 And trust me, guys, I failed here before.
00:13:17.640 You know, this is a journey for a lot of families
00:13:21.020 and a lot of couples to figure out
00:13:22.280 where's that threshold.
00:13:23.820 And I've been convicted just going, 1.00
00:13:25.500 okay, now just turn it off or talk to your wife.
00:13:28.300 Hey, do you want to fast forward through this 1.00
00:13:30.140 and see if we can watch the rest of this movie?
00:13:31.660 leave it up to her, especially in these moments, because movies are generally tailored toward the 1.00
00:13:38.460 lust of the man's eye and not the woman's eye. And so it's a naked woman. It's not necessarily 0.99
00:13:45.000 naked men, which again, in my experience and understanding of women, they're not real excited 0.79
00:13:49.260 about that anyways. So I'm going to read Matthew 27 through 28. It says, you have heard that it 1.00
00:14:00.040 was said to those of old, this is Jesus talking, you shall not commit adultery. But I say to you
00:14:06.800 that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
00:14:13.820 Okay, guys, the guy who guards his eyes shields his heart. And so you just have to recognize that
00:14:22.640 your eyes are a gateway to your heart. And when these things pop up, you got to work on guarding
00:14:29.500 your eyes and shielding them. Even when you walk around town, when you are on social media,
00:14:36.380 whatever it is, guard your eyes because they are a gateway to your heart. And if you're going to
00:14:41.460 cheat with your eyes, you know what? It's just not too far behind that you'll cheat with your body.
00:14:46.520 I've seen that. That's the guys that look at porn. Oh, you'll cheat with your eyes and you 0.83
00:14:50.200 cheat with your heart. Oh, you'll cheat with your body at some point too. And so, you know,
00:14:54.720 there's a quote by, oh my gosh, I always forget the guy that made this quote. It's not Chuck
00:15:00.580 Coulson. Anyways, he says, adultery starts in the head before it occurs in the bed. And
00:15:06.680 this is, again, you're watching shows, you can commit adultery just with that woman that's in
00:15:12.420 that movie. So we want to guard against those things. Cool. Next question to ask yourself
00:15:18.960 while watching a movie or show, whatever it is, will this movie or show make you more like Christ?
00:15:24.720 now you might be thinking what movie or show will yeah right especially into like i said earlier to
00:15:31.300 in today's um culture but is it wholesome is it clean humor yeah there's few of those out there
00:15:38.860 there are yeah but there are there are they are out there um does it teach you history or is the
00:15:44.120 story just fun and moral and exciting um if so then watch it yeah again i think of like lord of
00:15:50.120 rings you know like uh it's one of those things is fun you know you know um you know cool exciting
00:15:57.320 narrative and sure there's some rough stuff in there that might not be appropriate for a kid but
00:16:01.940 for maybe a a teenager is fine um or i think about lincoln right for the movie lincoln um you know
00:16:10.600 i thought that was great it's some great history in there some understanding um and there's an hbo
00:16:16.160 series called John Adams. There's some good stuff on the history side, you know, stuff about World
00:16:21.520 War II. And there's some things about clean humor, and those things exist too. And we try to find
00:16:27.820 those things as much as we can for our kids, which are very rare to find. There's really two
00:16:33.620 positions in the church, and I'm going to share them, and I want you to identify with which one
00:16:38.740 you generally partake in and the first position is minimal holiness and what what that's saying
00:16:46.680 is what's the minimum of a minimum amount of personal holiness i need to get into heaven
00:16:52.020 and that is actually sadly and again i know that it's not of works but in terms of like what's the
00:17:00.540 minimum way that i can walk to stay righteous and not be sinning against god it's like when
00:17:07.380 you're talking to a young couple who's struggling with staying pure they're like okay well like what
00:17:10.900 can we do how close can we get to the canyon we do uh before sinning yeah you're asking yourself
00:17:19.140 the wrong question yeah yeah exactly it's it's how close can we get to the canyon without falling in
00:17:24.180 it's a bad stick my foot over it yeah exactly just hanging over there i won't fall in but it's over
00:17:31.040 there yeah and so this is this is again the minimal holiness position and sadly a lot of
00:17:37.200 the church adopts this. And when questionable activities, the way that it's shown is that when
00:17:44.080 questionable activities, movies, yeah, you know, should we go over, you know, we're dating, we're
00:17:50.260 not married yet. Should we go over and hang out at your house by ourselves? You know, questionable
00:17:53.340 activities arise. They ask, what's wrong with it? Like, what's wrong with it? Right? Like, in reality,
00:18:00.900 it's just watching a movie, right? What's wrong with it? Right? And, you know, maybe it's with
00:18:05.780 modesty. Oh, what's wrong with it, right? Like, that's the posture that they're taking. It's a
00:18:10.180 posture of, again, of wanting to know how close you can get to sin without sinning. And the second
00:18:17.320 category, which I hope that we all are aiming for this category, is the maximum holiness side. And
00:18:25.420 this is not asking what's wrong with it, but instead asking, will this make us more like Christ?
00:18:34.320 Will this movie, this activity, this dress, this outfit, this job, whatever it is, make me more like Christ?
00:18:46.700 Will it protect and edify my wife or husband?
00:18:51.480 And edify even my brothers and sisters in Christ, my children even?
00:18:55.260 Will it help me lay up treasures in heaven?
00:18:57.740 Will it help me be more discerning of what is evil and what is good?
00:19:01.840 These are good questions to evaluate.
00:19:04.300 Will it put my holiness or my spirit in danger?
00:19:09.560 Like, will I injure my soul?
00:19:12.280 Will it help me love people more?
00:19:14.840 These are really good questions that we need to be asking about opportunities.
00:19:18.820 And so a guy named Jeff Abbott, he was a mentor of mine, what, maybe 10 years ago.
00:19:24.380 He told me once, he said, do you remember Jeff?
00:19:26.660 he said maturity is putting a process between opportunity and decision and you have an
00:19:38.600 opportunity I can go do these things or this thing and then you have a process between that
00:19:45.740 opportunity and making a decision if you're going to do those things and that's what I'm saying
00:19:49.720 here you get some questions is the activity going to make me more like Christ is it going to protect
00:19:53.380 my wife or or husband in this matter you know and this applies just to so many areas of life not
00:19:59.980 just what movie you're watching totally um yeah how much time you're spending on social media
00:20:05.480 what type of music you're listening to and a lot of you guys um you know love a certain type of
00:20:12.400 music that again just the lyrics are terrible you know and we've even had this in our marriage
00:20:18.480 you know veronica grew up in the hood and um and you know just cleaning out some of those things
00:20:24.500 that we just listen to as kids or even before we had kids i mean we're christians before i had kids
00:20:29.440 but i'd say very lukewarm in certain areas and there have been times even since having kids
00:20:35.920 where i'm like when i am out and i don't have the kids and i'm just like i haven't listened to this
00:20:40.500 album in years i'm gonna put it on because it takes me back in like 30 seconds and i'm like
00:20:45.920 oh my goodness, this is horrible. You have to like turn it off because I can't tolerate that
00:20:50.360 anymore. Yeah. Yeah. We just did this a couple of days ago. We turned on home alone. Okay.
00:20:57.620 This is without our kids. Without our kids. This is me and Veronica and a friend. And we're sitting
00:21:03.260 there. We turn on home alone and we watched this two years ago. No problem. Just Veronica and I,
00:21:08.020 but we watched it and i just go man and not because it's like offensive to us i mean it's
00:21:16.400 just i don't say offensive not that it's like oh my gosh i'm gonna sin because i'm watching this
00:21:20.520 it's because i'm going look at these children the way that they're speaking to each other i don't
00:21:26.780 think we got past the first scene i just go wow i'm just this is filth i don't need to have any
00:21:32.540 of this involved in my heart and brain. And it is hard kind of becoming separate from the world
00:21:39.440 because you go, oh man, I can't do, I can't watch that. Sin and love are the exact opposites. And I
00:21:46.760 want to explain this. Love is benefiting others at the expense of yourself. Sacrifice. Sin is
00:21:55.520 benefiting yourself at the expense of others. They are exactly the opposite. And so, you know,
00:22:02.460 in decisions with your wife or your husband or the decision you're going to make about watching
00:22:06.560 this show or being entertained by these things, you know what? There's sacrifice involved. Our
00:22:11.780 flesh loves this stuff. It's filth. And so you just got to really put up some good boundaries
00:22:17.180 to protect your heart. Third question. Do you want to be holy like God is holy? I'm going to
00:22:23.800 read a scripture. First John 2, 15 through 17. Do not love the world or the things in the world.
00:22:30.200 if anyone loves the world the father the love of the father is not in him for all that is in the
00:22:35.660 world the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life is not of the father but is
00:22:42.180 of the world and the world is passing away and the lust of it but he who does who does the will
00:22:49.180 of god abides forever so what is the world when this verse is referring to the world what is the
00:22:56.360 world yeah this is a good question because you know it's talking about don't love the world
00:23:01.920 well what is the world is it is it like um the flowers because is that part of the world is it
00:23:08.300 you know the house that you own is that part of the world no the world is anything that presents
00:23:14.120 itself against the will of god you know which i think pretty much everything that comes out of
00:23:19.260 hollywood generally does yeah pretty much yeah the love of things in the world and the love of god
00:23:25.740 are incompatible they just don't work yeah you have to realize that like that what it's saying
00:23:30.620 there it says do not love the world of the things of the world if anyone loves the world the love
00:23:34.160 of the father is not in him if anyone loves the world the love of the father is not in him
00:23:38.160 it's saying that the love of things and movies and worldly things that stand against god's will
00:23:47.560 and the love of god are incompatible they don't work together
00:23:50.800 like they just they just can't be a part of the christian life
00:23:54.260 um and uh and by the way people if you guys are listening Veronica is going to answer a question
00:24:00.080 about our kids here later so some of you moms that are probably wondering like oh like what do
00:24:05.260 we do with our kids on this topic she's going to hit that answer here in a bit um and so the word
00:24:12.260 holy this is a this is a big word what does it mean set apart set apart yeah different different
00:24:20.100 to be it actually in in hebrew the word means um to cut away to cut away from and so to be separate
00:24:31.080 and so if you read the old testament you'll actually see so many examples of god calling
00:24:38.600 his people to be holy to be separate i mean they literally they work different schedules
00:24:43.700 they live differently, they eat differently, they dress differently. They have all these
00:24:50.700 ways of making themselves look different than the other nations. And Christians are called to be
00:24:59.740 holy too. In the New Testament, it says, yeah, you know, God is holy. You know, you need to be holy.
00:25:06.160 Be holy as God is holy. And God doesn't give us commandments that we can't fulfill. So we need to
00:25:10.580 be holy. And that means that we get to work differently. That means that we get to dress
00:25:15.580 differently. That means that we get to manage our food differently. That means that we get to
00:25:20.880 make, watch different shows and look at media entertainment differently. We're constantly
00:25:26.280 trying to look like a peculiar people. And if you live in the world and love that stuff,
00:25:34.060 it's evidence that you don't love God
00:25:37.020 you know that's really what's going on
00:25:41.300 and so we get to look and watch things that are different
00:25:45.240 why don't you read this scripture here
00:25:49.040 and I messed up our notes here but that's fine
00:25:51.920 yeah because this is you love Philippians and I think you'll be able to
00:25:56.160 talk on this Philippians 4 8 finally brothers whatever is true
00:26:00.020 whatever is honorable whatever is just whatever is pure whatever is lovely whatever
00:26:03.980 is commendable. If there is any excellence, if there's anything worthy of praise, think about
00:26:09.260 these things. Yeah, so I just, you know, if you're a Christian who's watching sin-filled shows and 0.90
00:26:17.280 movies and media, you're either denying the Holy Spirit and sinning, or you're not a Christian
00:26:26.120 and sinning. And so we have to evaluate, like, am I entertained by this stuff? You know, which is,
00:26:33.160 again the first questions i'm going to go over them again are you entertained by what god hates
00:26:36.840 will this movie or show or media or song make you more like christ um and then the third question
00:26:44.580 we just went over here is um do you want to be holy like like god is holy
00:26:50.580 so next scripture yeah we got a lot of scriptures here and then and then we'll we'll move on here
00:26:56.680 next scripture titus 2 11 through 12 for the grace of god that brings salvation has appeared
00:27:02.640 to all men teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts we should live soberly righteously
00:27:08.720 and godly in the present age christians are really comfortable with sin um when they don't
00:27:16.760 understand how holy god is yeah like this is a really interesting point like we're
00:27:21.600 the reason we're okay with it is that because we think that god might be okay with it yeah we
00:27:27.300 project our fallen nature onto god and make him like us and newsflash god is never going to be
00:27:33.780 like us no yeah it's a form of self-medication it is and you know this idea of self-medication
00:27:40.600 is that you're you're trying to make yourself feel better about how gross you are you know
00:27:49.020 and so you're medicating by saying like you know projecting that like god might be okay with a
00:27:54.080 little bit of this stuff like you know it's not that big of a deal right it's not that big of a
00:27:57.180 you like what's wrong with it again we talked about that god is holy yeah he's a holy god and
00:28:03.400 he is okay with zero sin zero sin yeah and so again i just i think it's a good statement that
00:28:11.180 she made is that christians are comfortable with sin christians are i guess who are comfortable
00:28:15.120 with sin just don't understand how holy god is and i think we have to just you know look at that
00:28:21.420 and understand, you know, really who God is,
00:28:25.040 who Christ is, what he calls us to walk like,
00:28:27.380 how he calls us to be.
00:28:29.040 So the big question that we want you guys to evaluate
00:28:31.480 is, do you want to be entertained by things
00:28:36.080 that Jesus came here to die for?
00:28:39.640 And examine your life.
00:28:41.940 Do you need to cleanse out some stuff?
00:28:45.260 Purge.
00:28:46.020 Purge.
00:28:46.460 We've done it.
00:28:47.720 I feel like we do it every year.
00:28:48.900 we just did a couple days ago with home alone we're just like oh
00:28:52.200 dang it that's gone now too it's as as you become more like christ
00:28:56.720 the the love and of the things in the world that the desire for these things
00:29:01.040 just goes away and if it's not going away
00:29:04.540 you need to seek the lord and you need to seek
00:29:08.200 the word and it's because you're not being sanctified and ask yourself
00:29:11.900 if you've made an idol out of it yeah yeah if it's filling something
00:29:16.500 in your life that only god should be doing and so um you know don't ask we can watch it because
00:29:24.260 it's got a certain rating i just watched a g-rated movie a couple days ago that had a terrible
00:29:33.220 immoral theme underlying it um and i it's a kid's movie yeah we try to watch you know movies if we
00:29:42.280 can before the kids do right yeah i mean this is something like if we're going to let our kids
00:29:46.660 watch them i want to watch it first there have been times where we don't but um i guess i'll
00:29:50.840 answer this in the question later yeah but it's just one of those things that we we uh we try to
00:29:56.120 do but um it's about asking yourself is the content going to desensitize me is it going to deaden my
00:30:01.600 joy is it going to make me less like christ again these are questions that i want you guys to ask
00:30:06.260 yourself and the last point is just men if your wife is uncomfortable with you watching something
00:30:11.980 I've made this mistake
00:30:13.880 I'm sure many of you are listening and made this mistake
00:30:16.560 if your wife
00:30:18.060 is uncomfortable with something that you've
00:30:20.380 watched or watch
00:30:22.320 or are watching and she asks
00:30:24.320 you or she makes it evident that she's uncomfortable
00:30:26.120 just turn it off just turn it
00:30:28.320 off you want
00:30:30.420 to Christ says or
00:30:31.980 in Ephesians husbands love your wives
00:30:34.240 as Christ of the church and gave himself up for her
00:30:35.940 just give yourself up for her
00:30:38.460 like just go okay you know
00:30:40.360 what cool I won't watch that
00:30:41.980 do you really care about that show and that scene more than you care about your
00:30:46.920 wife I hope not and so just just let it go fight and have a big argument because
00:30:51.960 of it yeah worth it and if it is illogical turn it off have a very quiet
00:30:58.940 and gentle conversation about it hear her heart talk to her about those things
00:31:02.980 and possibly she's misinterpreting this and then you can walk through it and go
00:31:07.720 back and watch that show if it's not what she thought it was and so um those are just some
00:31:14.100 points so we got a question veronica's gonna hit it she's done yawning yes um so the question
00:31:22.240 we got is how much tv and media do you allow your kids to watch per week well this year as you guys
00:31:30.660 have as you guys know has been insane we've been sick a lot this year um you know there's when we
00:31:38.100 had a fever in our house for 21 days and we're all sick and vomiting and colds and our son has
00:31:44.160 asthma and i had lyme disease and miscarriage and so there's a lot of seasons this year where we've
00:31:52.180 been sick and so our kids have actually been watching way more tv or movies than than i would
00:31:59.120 like um but ideally it's i mean maybe a show a day but there have also been uh long seasons where
00:32:10.620 our kids will go weeks without watching anything yeah um but right now i think we're still trying
00:32:15.480 to get our uh i feel like we're just coming up for air yeah get our pace back we've been drowning
00:32:21.700 for so long with just trials um i feel like we're just coming back up for air and so there'll be
00:32:28.500 like you know a 30 minute slot of time during the day we're all at the kids watch something so
00:32:34.800 I can catch up on things that I've been putting aside for so long and they're just you know
00:32:41.160 starting to add up and build up and then let me see
00:32:45.320 another thing that I was going to mention earlier when Dale brought it up with this movie that he
00:32:53.680 watched um we're also absolutely not afraid to turn something off in the middle of our kids
00:32:58.920 watching it yeah if there's something that is on and we see something or hear something that
00:33:06.820 we're just like hey like that's that's not right um we'll shut it off right then and there and
00:33:13.100 sure they'll fuss and why why'd you do that mom um and i'll just tell them the truth
00:33:20.140 um and so in those moments and i'll just change it to something that i know for a fact that
00:33:26.660 we don't um have an issue with um and then something else that a friend of ours mentor
00:33:33.420 figure of ours mentioned once is we're training our children's appetites
00:33:38.260 so if we're constantly watching tv you're training your child to have an appetite for that
00:33:45.360 um or if you're if you're constantly reading books you're you're training your child to have
00:33:51.300 an appetite for more literature and more reading and um so that's just another thing to keep in
00:33:57.220 mind do you have anything to add yeah i mean i as a dad i sometimes notice things that maybe
00:34:02.660 veronica misses and um she notices things that are generally more on the sensitive side and i'm
00:34:08.840 noticing things more on, like, the underlying theme of kids' movies.
00:34:14.140 And so now every movie, every good movie has a plot.
00:34:18.560 There's, you know, you've probably heard the book about seven basic plots.
00:34:21.400 So there's only so many plots that you can have.
00:34:23.560 And generally, even in a good movie with a heroic ending or there's a plot of tragedy,
00:34:30.580 there's a plot of trial, there's a plot of a problem.
00:34:32.920 And those can be really bad and those can be really okay
00:34:36.440 as long as the narrative of the show is actually redemptive it's good and so those are hard to
00:34:43.000 find in most shows and they're also age appropriate so there's certain things that
00:34:49.160 that yeah your your three-year-old can't watch that your nine-year-old can that you're right
00:34:54.840 you know 15 year old totally can yeah because there have been shows that we watch and we're
00:34:58.360 just like okay like not yet our kids aren't ready for that yet yeah they can watch that
00:35:03.480 i don't know when their maturity level is to that level of what that movie shares or um shows but
00:35:10.480 yeah and so this this is the the journey that you have to look for i also as a dad i look at the
00:35:15.700 underlying themes as i said i'm so sensitive to this stuff i can discern if there is a
00:35:21.120 sexuality agenda that's below it i can discern if there is a um uh just a sense of disobedient
00:35:30.580 agenda below it you know the disobedient children a lot of kids movies yeah I can discern if there
00:35:37.660 is some sort of gender confusion agenda that's under it and there's a lot of these things that
00:35:45.540 are happening in the movies today we gotta keep an eye on that stuff on how it goes into your head
00:35:50.920 and again if your kids you know watched it one time they're probably not going to catch it but
00:35:54.440 if it becomes that movie that your kids watch a couple times a year and they start buying the
00:35:58.900 things and singing the songs and all the whatever that stuff is trust me satan is all up in this
00:36:03.520 stuff okay like just don't think that there's these like perfectly holy movies um and so uh
00:36:09.940 yeah our kids you know they usually watch if we can like uh what's the uh on youtube a lot um
00:36:17.340 there's this cartoon called the beginner's bible yeah there you go and a lot of you guys probably
00:36:22.020 have that little kid's bible it's like they make bibles um but it's called the beginner's bible
00:36:26.960 and it's just these cartoons of jonah and the big fish or noah's ark or uh the creation story
00:36:35.840 the birth of jesus it's just that you know the main yeah bible stories david and goliath um
00:36:42.240 and there's some other ones that like are made by hannah barbera like which made like scooby-doo
00:36:47.060 and stuff they're from like the 70s and they're like cool they're a little bit more intense you
00:36:51.540 got to watch them but but like bible stories we do a lot of those kind of things if the kids are
00:36:55.620 going to watch a show yeah it's so funny we put that that on the other day and in the introduction
00:37:00.600 there's like a three or four minute introduction of this guy talking charleston heston yeah he's
00:37:06.380 just sitting there talking like explaining the story before it goes into the cartoon part
00:37:10.300 and aria's like oh mom this guy just tells me all about the story and then the show's going to start
00:37:15.360 it's just like so funny he's like 70 telling the story so yeah so there's things like that and our
00:37:21.080 kids yeah we watch a lot of stuff from the 80s and 90s clifford although there's certain ones
00:37:26.540 that i'll fast forward i'll skip the bernstein bears you know those are the things that we try
00:37:32.720 to also even watch those with um with a filter yeah because most of them are usually fine but
00:37:40.340 every now and then you'll come across one that you're just like okay not about that yeah so
00:37:44.060 again it just takes us being intentional and putting up these boundaries and they are important
00:37:50.260 Because a lifetime without these boundaries will lead you into an appetite for things that are opposite of God.
00:37:56.900 And a lifetime with these boundaries will make you more holy and make you more separate.
00:38:02.680 And by the way, we're the same way with books.
00:38:05.080 Oh, yeah.
00:38:05.620 We have lots of kids books and we've thrown away quite a few.
00:38:09.720 There have been multiple where Dale just like does it straight in the fireplace.
00:38:12.660 I totally have.
00:38:13.460 Yeah.
00:38:13.680 Like, I'm like, wait. 0.99
00:38:14.440 This book is garbage. 0.99
00:38:15.780 Yeah. 1.00
00:38:15.920 Right away.
00:38:16.460 Yeah.
00:38:16.680 And just don't be afraid to do that.
00:38:18.340 Be, I mean, you have to be on guard.
00:38:20.260 for the hearts of your children and your own mind um so especially because when they're young
00:38:26.240 you're you're literally developing their conscience their their uh understanding their
00:38:32.660 moral compass and so you gotta be extra on guard when they're young who cares if you paid money
00:38:37.180 for the book yeah get rid of it yeah throw it away yeah i've bought movies i for 20 to watch
00:38:43.700 as a family and have been renting it or buying it for on apple tv and we're sitting there for
00:38:50.240 eight minutes in I go okay I'll turn that off and you know okay now what are we gonna do because I
00:38:55.620 just told the kids we're gonna do a movie night and so I have to go by looking for something else
00:38:59.260 you know but yeah we do it just because we want to protect their hearts so again guys if you
00:39:06.560 get a chance oh you know what we didn't do we didn't do the memory verse memory verse memory
00:39:12.260 verse and guys I read a little bit ago this is a this is like a cornerstone verse so try to have
00:39:17.020 this memory verse i've i tried memorizing a while back and i like forgot about it but
00:39:21.060 it's a good one to have memorized especially i think i for me i needed to memorize it for like
00:39:25.760 just the season of motherhood that i'm in yeah um so philippians 4 8 finally brothers whatever
00:39:31.160 is true whatever is honorable whatever is just whatever is pure whatever is lovely whatever is
00:39:35.640 commendable if there is any excellence if there is anything worthy of praise think about these
00:39:41.480 things. That is Philippians 4.8. Yeah, so hopefully you guys can get some memory down on that.
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