00:01:46.560Okay, a couple things before we start.
00:01:49.540we decided, as we mentioned in the last episode, to change the name of this podcast.
00:01:57.920Mostly because we want to broaden the things that we talk about, cultural issues,
00:02:04.200theology conversations, things that have to do with the church. And we didn't want to start
00:02:09.900two podcasts. We already do this anyways. We already talk about things that are outside of
00:02:15.420marriage and family. Yeah. And then we just slap a marriage sticker on it. Yeah. And so, yeah,
00:02:21.160we, we wanted to broaden our horizons and talk about more topics that a lot of you guys actually
00:02:25.880request. Several of them have nothing to do with marriage, but we do want to talk about those
00:02:30.740things. And our poor singles, right? We have hundreds, thousands of singles that listen to
00:02:36.620the show and they're begging for single episodes. We might give you guys a single episode at some
00:02:41.340point there will we will absolutely still talk about marriage and family a lot about it actually
00:02:46.640and um so this conversation will be uh we're gonna have a still the conversation around marriage and
00:02:52.400family it's just gonna be called real christianity it's not gonna be called ultimate marriage you
00:02:57.900don't need to worry about it same art same everything on the on the podcast cover it's
00:03:03.900just going to say different words. So just giving you a heads up on that. Okay. We're going to
00:03:10.700talk about this teaching. Veronica can walk us into the verse that we're going to be going
00:03:18.340through today. Yeah. So Dale will be doing most of the teaching today. I'll obviously be putting
00:03:23.280my two cents in here and there, but he'll be doing most of the teaching. And again,
00:03:28.700bear with us. This is a hard topic to cover, but the passage that we're going to be diving into
00:03:33.200today is going to be 1 Corinthians 7 verses 10 through 16. Alrighty, here we go. Now to the
00:03:40.900married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, a wife is not to depart from her husband, but even if she0.97
00:03:46.180does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not0.81
00:03:51.620to divorce his wife, but to the rest, I, not the Lord say, if any brother has a wife who does not
00:03:58.480believe and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. And a woman who has a husband
00:04:04.160who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving1.00
00:04:09.440husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband.1.00
00:04:14.360Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. But if the unbeliever departs,0.99
00:04:19.700let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to0.96
00:04:25.220peace for how do you know a wife whether you will save your husband or how do you know oh husband
00:04:30.440whether you will save your wife dang she did it again i know like you catch my breath last night
00:04:38.860she pulled it off she read that whole passage without i there was a long pause in there there
00:04:43.780was i almost stumbled without stumbling and veronica struggles with public reading but
00:04:49.620totally great with public reading even though it's just you and i in the room like i know people
00:04:53.940are listening and so i'm like it's like being on stage reading out loud is a legitimate spiritual
00:05:01.320gift i'm so terrible there's people that can do it really well and if you're like in a bible
00:05:07.780setting you ask someone else hey can you read this passage they're like sitting there like
00:05:10.800stumbling and talking quietly that's me i'm that person so all right so before we dive in
00:05:17.520I want to give you guys some context about divorce in first century Judaism, first century Christianity, but especially in Judaism, because Paul's talking to a mixed crowd of Corinthians, Greeks, and Jews in this passage.
00:05:34.140And in ancient Israel, the Jews had a huge issue with divorce.
00:05:37.760There's actually, divorce was running rampant in first century Judaism and back.
00:05:44.120You could divorce your wife or dismiss her from your home if you just didn't like the way that she prepared your food or cleaned the house.0.97
00:05:54.320First century Jew, a Jewish rabbi named Rabbi Akiva.
00:06:00.140He said, if any man saw a woman more handsomer than his own wife, he might put his wife away because it is said in the law, quote, if she find no favor, find not favor in his eyes.
00:06:12.520That reference is to Deuteronomy 24, verse 1.
00:08:04.380So in all the years that Dale and I went to an institutional church, we have never heard a passage or never heard a teaching on this particular passage.
00:08:14.880Not because the pastors don't know what it means, but it just seems as if the pastors are so worried about offending people.
00:08:22.500and the truth is offended people don't give and if people aren't giving then the church isn't
00:08:27.840staying in business yeah yeah that's i mean that this is what's happening on a variety of topics
00:08:34.240we're afraid to talk about the things that the bible talks about and then we begin to emphasize
00:08:40.160things that the bible does not talk about instead it's really weird yeah there's a quote dale says
00:08:46.180often it's difficult for a pastor to preach on something when his salary depends on him not
00:08:52.960preaching it. Yeah, and this happens a lot, right? We have Christian men who are afraid to preach on
00:08:59.100something because their salary depends on them not preaching it. And so this is, again, a problem0.97
00:09:04.320in the church and why divorce isn't really confronted from a biblical perspective in the
00:09:09.100church right now. So, um, the opening section of this passage is actually not Paul's doctrine.
00:09:19.220It's actually Paul referencing to Jesus's doctrine recorded in the gospel of Mark, Luke,
00:09:25.980and Matthew. Paul is simply reminding the Corinthians what the Lord has already said
00:09:31.000on the matter of divorce. And so this isn't the doctrine. This is the teaching on the doctrine.
00:09:36.960Yeah, these are my words. These are Jesus's words. Jesus said this.
00:09:40.360Yeah, this is a big deal because he's throwing the Jesus card down when he says,
00:09:45.920now to the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord. He's referencing back there.
00:09:50.720So before we discuss Paul's instruction, let's read what Jesus said in Mark 10, 10 through 12 and Matthew 5, 31 through 32.
00:10:03.860Again, all these references are going to be available for you on the podcast page that we'll mention at the end of the episode.
00:10:10.520But Veronica will open us up on Mark 10.
00:10:44.220We often think that the homewrecker is what let no man separate.
00:10:50.400Like, don't let the homewrecker separate you guys.
00:10:52.460Or don't let the adultery, you know, the adulteress separate you guys.
00:10:57.120The problem is that while the homewrecker or the adulteress wounds the marriage and commits the adultery, it doesn't actually cause the divorce.
00:11:08.940We cause the divorce, and who actually does the divorce is the attorney or the judge or the legal system.
00:11:18.300So this passage of scripture in its proper historical cultural context is saying, therefore, what God has joined together, let no divorce attorney separate. That's really what it's saying here. And if you're married, real quick, this is saying, don't let a judge divorce you two.
00:12:45.940And so the other thing that we need to realize is that based on this scripture in Mark.
00:12:53.160If you're a Christian couple and you're married with two Christian spouses and say three years goes by, you guys get a divorce.
00:13:03.400A couple of years goes by, you guys get remarried.
00:13:05.720this passage says that you're committing adultery by entering into a new sexual relationship with
00:13:14.240another spouse which again is a very indicting statement for the church today but we have hope
00:13:23.740for you yeah so if you're listening to this and you're a christian and you've had a divorce and
00:13:28.780you've been remarried don't freak out don't panic um dale and i are going to help break this passage
00:13:33.900down for you a little bit more in truth we you know we got to give you the truth but also um with
00:13:39.940grace so that you may find your heart hopefully filled with some peace yeah this is one passage
00:13:45.920and we're going to look at the rest of the scriptures to break down how you should biblically
00:13:51.300be thinking about that and there is lots of grace here and understanding and clarification that's
00:13:56.460coming right now so um yeah so matthew records jesus saying something slightly different yeah
00:14:02.220He seems to allow a loophole, a loophole that the church has latched onto, unfortunately, and has permitted many unneeded divorces and adult and adulterous remarriages.
00:14:16.420It is. Yeah. So this is a different passage that Matthew is recording what's probably the same conversation, but records it slightly differently.
00:31:43.080okay so um he's already given us permission to separate he just says and even if a wife
00:31:52.420separates not like you should go do that but um there's there's i guess somewhat permission to
00:31:58.260separate as long as we stay unmarried you have to be remain unmarried or be reconciled to your
00:32:03.500husband this verse adds an additional clause that jesus doesn't talk about he says that
00:32:11.940not under bondage so a brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases where the unbelieving
00:32:20.300spouse leaves meaning that they've actually left and disappeared imagine like back in this day0.93
00:32:28.240if your spouse left you there's no phones there's no internet there's no nothing like
00:32:31.820you you might not even know if they are alive anymore but never see them again0.91
00:32:36.640Um, but now, um, it's saying, I would imply that if the unbelieving party divorces you at this point, uh, then this is giving you a permission to not be under bondage.0.75
00:32:52.840Now, we need to determine what not under bondage means.0.64
00:32:56.960Um, my thought is that that means that you're no longer under bondage to the wedding vows.
00:33:05.020that you no longer need to be committed to those wedding vows
00:33:10.620if the unbelieving party has left the marriage.0.92
00:33:33.160Because remember, if they're willing to stay, you should stay because you're sanctifying that unbelieving spouse.1.00
00:33:41.200But if they're out of there because you won't partake in the sinful lifestyle they will or you're so dedicated to God that they're jealous of Jesus in your life and they leave the marriage.0.99
00:33:54.520First thing is that your first line of action should not be to go get remarried.
00:33:59.760you should be willing to stay single and pray for that spouse to come to the Lord and come back to
00:34:08.520that marriage you shouldn't be like jumping up and down and excited to go marry another person
00:34:13.460that shouldn't be your heart posture the second reason why I believe that that's what it's saying
00:34:19.820is that you're no longer under bondage to the marriage vows is earlier Paul talks about this
00:34:28.460idea that it's better to marry than to burn with passion. And if you're clearly not gifted with the
00:34:36.640gift of celibacy, you have a sexual desire because you were in a marriage before.
00:34:44.400You know, God says in Genesis that it's not good for man to be alone. He says in this same chapter,
00:34:49.900chapter seven, Paul says that a husband and a wife should not be separated sexually apart for
00:34:55.600not much time unless it's for prayer for fasting, but come together again soon so that we aren't
00:35:02.280tempted by the devil. I don't think that Jesus would command us to stay single and have this
00:35:10.900utter self-control burning with passion because we don't have the gift of celibacy waiting for this0.97
00:35:18.040unbeliever to return. I don't think that's the case. I think that God would desire you to go1.00
00:35:25.260get remarried yet only to a Christian brother or sister, which is actually what Paul references
00:35:31.620later in this chapter, that you can only marry within the Lord. And so that's my take on that
00:35:38.540is that you have a couple things that I want to outline real quick. If you're in a Christian
00:35:43.600marriage with two Christian spouses, the only reason you have grounds for divorce is because0.93
00:35:50.080one of the spouses has had sex with another person. You have grounds for divorce, yet you0.85
00:35:58.440should probably still try and work it out. And I would not jump the gun to go get divorced. Just
00:36:05.440because you can doesn't mean you should. Now, if you're in a marriage where one party is an0.77
00:36:13.200unbelieving party and that party leaves you are no longer under the marriage bondage of the marriage0.77
00:36:21.180vows those are the really only two ways that we have out of marriage every other way you're
00:36:28.320committing adultery in some capacity at least what scriptures teach and at least what we can
00:36:33.380dive into for this short podcast podcast right um moving on yes verse 16 okay verse 16 for how do
00:36:44.260you know a wife whether you will save your husband or how do you know a husband whether you will save
00:36:48.580your wife again i just wanted her to read that so that we could be reminded is that
00:36:53.700your sanctification has a work that's going on in that spouse whether they're saved or not saved
00:37:01.400And then if that spouse leaves, um, we actually, I know Brian Sumner, um, he's a friend, he's an
00:37:10.700ex-professional skateboarder. He got married, got divorced, was single for a while, came to Christ
00:37:19.480and remarried his original wife. And so this happens actually quite often. There's some
00:37:25.960really cool stories and testimonies about that. You don't know what the Lord is doing. So don't
00:37:31.600jump into another marriage real quick. Just wait and pray that that person would come back to the
00:37:38.000Lord. Because imagine if you got remarried and two years goes by and your spouse found Christ,
00:37:46.420but you got remarried. What a dilemma that would be in your heart. And so I don't know how long
00:37:53.880you wait but the posture should be to pray for that person to come to the lord and not remarry
00:38:01.600quickly okay we're doing so that's the end of our sermon um we're gonna go ahead and leave you guys
00:38:10.440with four takeaways um i'll list off a couple and then dale will list off a couple yeah so in the
00:38:16.280case of adultery divorce was not commanded it is merely permitted we have to remember that god hates
00:38:22.740divorce point two a believing spouse has a spiritual influence in their home and is
00:38:28.960encouraged not to leave the marriage but instead to allow their presence to sanctify the home
00:38:33.720yes point number three if you're in a christian marriage with an unbeliever
00:38:39.440and the unbeliever divorces you you are not under bondage to the wedding vows
00:38:46.380but you should stay single for a time and pray for that spouse and point number four if you've
00:38:53.540had a divorce that is for a reason that is not adultery as a christian as a christian
00:39:01.160um you've technically committed adultery technically and we believe it's important
00:39:08.680to recognize that. Repent of that to the Lord. Ask for forgiveness. And again, if it is made out
00:39:17.820of ignorance or intention, and then don't think about it again. So that's just one thing.
00:39:25.800The Lord isn't thinking about those repented sins. And give yourself grace because the Lord
00:39:31.620has died for our sins and so you you have forgiveness in that but you don't want to
00:39:38.820erase the truth of scripture last point i want to make is if you've had a divorce before you become
00:39:47.060a christian meaning that you're in a pagan marriage to unbelievers and you get a divorce
00:39:56.980remember that when you become a christian all things are new and so you are a new creation in
00:40:06.720christ and so i think that through coming to christ and repenting of your sin that is also
00:40:17.160behind you and you don't need to be thinking about the divorce that happened before you came to christ
00:40:23.500And so that's another angle that we've seen this needing to be discussed.