If I Wanted to Go From $0 to $100M, I’d Do This [FULL GUIDE]
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When I was 17 years old, I was broke and in rehab. By age 27, I became a cash millionaire. And today, I own a group of businesses that generate over $100 million a year. For the last 12 months, I've had a camera crew follow me around everywhere and document everything I know about how to get rich and build a million-dollar business. And today I'm going to share with you the 9 most important videos I've ever made that hold all the principles you need to know to build a $100M business.
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When I was 17 years old, I was broke and in rehab.
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follow me around everywhere and document everything I know
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about how to get rich and build a million-dollar business.
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that made me so rich that I actually questioned the meaning of making money. These rules are what
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allowed me to go from a broke 22-year-old to a multi-millionaire today. Some of these rules I
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picked up on my own during my 26-year career as an entrepreneur, and others I learned from some
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of the highest net worth individuals you probably know. So without any further explanation, these
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are the 14 rules of money. The first rule is kind of obvious, but it's to spend less than you make.
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You know, Dave Ramsey likes to say, act your wage.
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You know, my dad used to say, it's not what you make,
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I remember I was just trying to kind of live life.
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it was a bit carpe diem, you know, seize the day, YOLO.
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remember at 21 i got a check for almost twenty thousand dollars for working a month i was a
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consultant i was on contract and it all showed up in my bank account and my little brother mo showed
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up and i said hey man let's go on a ski trip it's right around christmas time when we decided
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to splurge over a 10 day period that he was visiting i spent thirteen thousand dollars
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on snowboard gear and paying for drinks for friends and crazy hotel rooms and eating like
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a king it was one of the most ridiculous weeks ever there was like everything was an option we
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kept spending the money and at the end of it i talked to my dad he said dan did you put any money
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aside for taxes and i said nope and that was the day that i got introduced to norm and norm was my
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accountant and what he said is how about we put you on a salary but what do you need to live and
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i was like well my expenses are covered let's do 60 000 a year and everything else we'll put in the
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bank account. And that one decision allowed me to save the seed money I needed to eventually start
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the company that made me a multimillionaire. So at the start, the most important thing is to live
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off as little as possible and reinvest in yourself, reinvest in your business, reinvest in your
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future. So most people would say that you want to put 50% towards needs. You know, you got to live,
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you got to eat, you got 30% towards wants, right? So that brings to 80% and then 20% towards
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savings. High level, think about it. So all consuming and living, you want to be at 80%
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save the rest. Which brings us to the second rule, which is to pay yourself first. This one's tough.
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Some people feel like all their money's got to go out first. I got to help other people before I
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ever help myself. Here's what I know. You are actually the most important asset, not a house,
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a car, a watch, an investment. It is you. I remember back in 2009, I was talking to my
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business partner, Ethan, and we had a major issue that we had to solve in the business. And I asked
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him to meet me at the office and he said he couldn't. Now we had just raised a million dollars
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from some of the top investors in San Francisco. And we're building up the team and we ran into
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an issue with our product. And I said, why can't you meet? He's like, Hey man, I've got to get some
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laundry done. Okay. I know it's Sunday, dude, but you can do your laundry on any other day. And he
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said, yeah, but if I don't do it this, I got a plan. And I'm like, man, on your way to work,
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there are literally three different laundromats that do wash and fold. Like they'll do it for
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like 35 bucks. It's like, yeah, man, I'm not really paying myself enough. I'm barely making
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rent. So here's a situation where we just raised a million dollars to build the business and he
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can't come work on the business because he's too busy doing laundry. The issue, he wasn't paying
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himself enough to essentially invest in things that would buy back his time so him and I could
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actually go jam to solve the problem. See, most people stay broke because they're trading time
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for money. What I'm going to encourage you to consider is invest time for skills to get paid
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more then buy more time to reinvest in learning new skills that make you more money see most
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people spend time to save money i like to spend money to save time once i've got that time then
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i invest it in acquiring new skills that allows me to become more valuable then i get to make more
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money to then buy time to invest in more skills that is the equation i remember one time i was
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talking to one of my coaching clients brad redding he had an incredible company and he was kind of
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burnt out and he wanted to sell it i said you could and you know the price and people buy it
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from you today or you take some of the profit you're making instead of reinvesting more software
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developers and marketing teams and all that stuff just pay yourself more so you can enjoy life a
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little bit better i said just make a list of things that you would love to do and he put on
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there i'd like a gym in my house i'd love to be able to hire somebody to take care of the kids
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we can get date nights so we were only talking a few thousand bucks a month and i said if you
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could invest in you to give you more time to build the business bigger that dollar amount today is
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going to turn into millions of dollars in a few years and that's exactly what happened so the way
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brad bought back his time and his energy is that not only did he have time to work on key things
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spend time with his wife but he got the energy back by not having to worry about not spending
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enough time with his family not going on date nights taking care of his health i mean he's
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literally transformed his body from where he was to where he is today because he made an investment
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in himself if you pay yourself first you force yourself to find resources to cover other expenses
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which brings us to number three which is to assign your priorities oprah winfrey once said you can
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have it all just not all at once i mean it's kind of like you can do anything you just can't do
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everything when people see me today they go wow dan you do so many things but if you actually
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look over the last 25 years of my career i've only done one thing and that's software i started off
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as a programmer then i went to consulting then i built companies and now i deploy capital the
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four c's coding consulting companies and capital into technology into software essentially i
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started off and i wrote code and i learned how to build apps and then i ended up starting a company
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and i sold people the applications that i was building and then i did that three times in a
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a row. And then I decided, well, now I'm going to start investing in other companies. And I did that
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and now I buy companies, but they're all in the software space. So I want to teach you a big idea
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that a lot of people get wrong when they start to try to make their first million dollars, which is
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don't diversify except for globally or investments. Don't get distracted. Most people end up saying
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yes to things they should be saying no to and know the things they should be in yes to because
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they don't know what is their primary aim and focus. And if you do this right, then you become
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the tip of the spear at what you do. Tip of the spear means best in class. I like to say world
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class. I think you should be top five in what you do, which sounds crazy. I know if you're an editor
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or a logo designer or even a singer, you're like, that's just not me. And I'm like, yeah, it is.
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It just takes a decision. And if you go all in, you say, I'm going to be one of the best programmers.
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I'm going to be the one best designers. I'm going to be one of the best editors. What you do is you
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start getting better and better and better. And then you get this thing called the four levels
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of luck that one of my mentors, Naval Ravikant talks about all the time. First level is just
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dumb luck, you know, just random moments and opportunities show up in your life. And those
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are just like dumb luck. The second level is grit luck. This is by doing the work, the luckier you
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get, right? People talk about this all the time. The third is skilled luck, meaning that you're
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getting so skilled at what you do, people know you for that. So they ask you for opportunities
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that otherwise, it looks lucky to everybody else,
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no, it's just because I'm really skillful at this thing.
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you know, like the Warren Buffets and the Oprahs
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and the Elon Musk, where they're brought opportunities
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to what is your unfair advantage in the market.
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Invest in something you know, don't get distracted.
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Some of you are really great at building houses
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I would argue you go make a lot of money in houses first.
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and you're like, hey, I should get into real estate.
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How about you stick to software and get really good at it
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and trust me, you will find real estate investors
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that will partner to build out a massive portfolio with you
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but don't make those where you make your money.
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and don't put the pressure around it having to perform.
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and then they're freaking out when the thing's not working out.
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their current business and the new business and both suffer.
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never begin the day until you finish it on paper.
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and you should plan for worst case so that way you build a plan around both and you never have
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to think about it and when they're going great or there's an issue you can go back to the plan
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you could lose it all you could find out they changed some law you could get hit by a bus
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and my philosophy is that you have to plan for it have a disaster recovery plan i learned this back
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when we were building data centers with my software company if the power went down in the room you had
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the backup generators kick in and it took over the challenge is you had to have the checklist
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already designed so that when it happened you got to stay cool calm and collected nobody was running
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around freaking out like oh did anybody put the diesel in the generator you tested it every once
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in a while and you made sure you had the checklist ready to go why is this important because it allows
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you to move incredibly fast and even harder knowing that if at any point of moving fast
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in a direction something happens you've already made the decision on how you're going to react
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There's no wasted brain cycles around fear, concern, challenges, worry.
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My business coach, Ed Milet, has this great saying.
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He says, worry is a wasted use of your imagination.
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I think most times because we haven't built a plan,
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How about you just decide to do if it does and get back to building your life?
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There's the business side and the personal side.
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Most people will say in business, you want to have at least three months of operating expenses.
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so that if anything happens to you, you lose your job,
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your business goes to zero, the family won't be impacted
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where an individual couldn't rebound within six months
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to just get back in there and find an opportunity.
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because on every economic downside that's ever happened,
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So you wanna be ready to go through tough times
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Which brings us to number five, which is give to get.
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where you wake up and you're just giving, giving, giving.
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So here's a funny story to give you a little bit more color.
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I realized I had been hoarding credit card points.
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for all the ads they run and all these other scenarios
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and I was collecting millions of points per year,
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I don't know why I just got into this hoarding mentality.
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So this year, I woke up, I'm going to tell my assistant,
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Any points that I've been hoarding is going to get spent,
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See, the more you spend, the more opportunities you create.
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The more you spend, the more you can get in returns
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See, I use the word spend, but don't get it confused.
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the more time and money exchanges hands the more value is created in the world see money is energy
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and if you hoard it it will find its way away from you if you spend it it creates more energy
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comes back to you and allows you to do bigger things with it most people think i'm supposed
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to save but they don't invest i know i did that for a long time i looked at my bank account i just
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kept saving saving saving saving it was in a savings account but it wasn't doing anything
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at one point i had millions of dollars my banker was like hey do you want to do anything with this
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and i'm like leave me alone don't touch it and they're like we could put it in a gic i'm like
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don't talk to me i don't trust you it's because i didn't know any better then i realized that
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if i take the money i put it in the market i put it into investments i invest in myself
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i invest in my team i use it i circulate it it's a resource and the more i use it the more it's
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going to come back because i'm telling the world that i believe that it's a flow it's an energy
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it comes out it comes back it's just like the more you give the more you get that's how it works if
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If you hoard it, it will find its way away from you.
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If you hoard it, you're essentially telling the world,
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because all I'm gonna do is put it in a bucket.
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and I'm gonna put it out, it's gonna come back.
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once said, the only difference between rich person
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and a poor person is how they use their time in debt.
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I would actually change the word debt to leverage.
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I sat down, I tested a bunch of different couches.
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I'm kind of a tall dude, so I need like a deep seat.
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because there was no interest, blah, blah, blah.
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I ended up paying four times more for the furniture
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So this is what I've learned about borrowing money.
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What I want you to consider is how do you borrow money
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It's to increase your earning potential, right?
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Small bullets, little tiny bullets, take shots.
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You're like, hey, I'm going to spend some money,
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Then if you figure it out, you want to shoot a cannonball.
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they like make these big investments in themselves,
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borrow money to go to a very expensive mastermind
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They don't get the return that they thought they would get.
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That's where you're gonna get yourself in trouble.
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let me tell you about this crazy story there's this investor named bill ackman back in the day
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he took 27 million dollars and he invested in a cds credit default swap and that investment
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and i think a 12-month period turned into 2.7 billion dollars let me tell you why this applies
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to you see he knew there was a chance that that 27 could go down not necessarily to zero real
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estate investors do this all day long they find a property they get it under contract they borrow
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money for the deposit they borrow private money to buy the place they then they renovate it they
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add the value and then they go and they sell it to somebody else and they take the difference
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i mean they pay off the investors they refinance it with the bank essentially they have no personal
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guarantee no money out of pocket so the upside is unlimited from a cash on cash return because
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they have very little of their own money in the deal so we're always looking for deals where we
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we have asymmetrical risk, low downside, unlimited upside.
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Then place your opportunity that you're looking at
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hey, Bitcoin would be a high risk, high return.
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that deal would look like a low-risk, high-return scenario.
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wealth is the product of a man's capacity to think.
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See, we all have these money stories, these money beliefs.
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what if I push really hard and I lose all this money?
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Some of us have stories around thinking being rich is bad
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Well, if you thought that and you're a good person,
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Yes, there's bad and there's greedy people,
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A lot of people self-sabotage themselves to being rich,
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I'm just curious, if we just played a game and said,
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Well, they might say, well, rich people don't pay taxes
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And you could just list all these beliefs in order
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and just ask yourself, have I ever thought that?
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if we don't work through all the negative beliefs
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that just happens to be reflected in your bank account.
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and I watched him make a lot of money very quick.
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and he didn't have the money to cover all of his payments.
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The game is here to try and live off as little as possible
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Not to suffocate your ability to reinvest in yourself
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to make more money, but to just not be wasteful.
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And that's why this money rule will make you rich
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if you're able to delay trying to reap the rewards too soon you should get used to playing this game
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of spending as little as possible for as long as possible like all the the gucci and the fancy
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stuff and look i know a lot of people see me today with the jet and the cars and the house and all
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that stuff but even today i live off about 10 of my income because i'm reinvesting in other things
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that are going to make me money in the long term and then over time i just i live off of that cash
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flow. And I think everybody has the opportunity to do that if they learn how to play this money
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game, which brings us to number 10, which is to build a personal P&L. So I was talking to one of
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my friends once, and he was telling me how he wanted a simple life. And this guy was wealthy.
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He didn't want too much stuff, too many things to manage. But here's the secret. And this is what I
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told him. The wealthiest people aren't managing their own estates. Dude, you can invest in having
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somebody to help you out. So I explained to him when you have two or three or four homes like I
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do, then you have somebody manages it. I have a house manager named Betty. She is the CEO of
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everything in my personal life. Like any money that comes in, she manages the income. She manages
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the expenses that go out and she manages the forecast and the budgets for all of those. So
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if anything gets out of whack, she's the first one to say like, Hey, why is the landscaping for,
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you know, the property is more expensive than it should be. So I want to teach you this cool idea
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that most people have never heard when it comes to money, just like in a business, your personal
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life should have its own profit and loss statement. I know, I know this is some people like, what are
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you talking about? If you think about it, your life is a business. You have a salary, you have
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income and you have expenses. And I know most businesses have a CEO, a CFO, a COO to manage
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all this and financial projections and planning. And most people with money would maybe call this
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a financial planner or a family office, but I like to think it at a high level. I actually have my
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personal family affairs in my accounting software i know crazy idea but why wouldn't you it just
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makes it so much easier to manage i want you to consider if you get really good at managing money
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you'll be able to make more money most people that are loosey-goosey on their financials they'll
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never have the rigor and the maturity to be able to grow their personal net worth which brings us
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to number 11 which is high tides rise all boats when it comes to making money it requires the
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team and i used to have a belief that if i trained a team that eventually they would leave you know
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i have my buddy cameron harold incredible author you know people would say to him like what if you
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hire a bunch of people and you train them and then they leave and he would joke well what if you don't
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and they stay so what most people do is they hire less competent people because it feels more secure
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because they are insecure about people leaving them the challenge with that is this b's and c's
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risk your a's so think about anybody on your team today that might be great if you hire somebody
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they're gonna get frustrated and they'll eventually leave.
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But honestly, even when they're not doing so well,
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It could be you training them, buying some training,
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is to understand what their dreams and goals are.
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And my rule is your dreams and goals for your life
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to fit inside of so that you can raise the tide
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You gotta fix that mindset and watch your life transform.
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Henry Ford once said, money is like an arm or a leg.
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You know, I once heard this, that money is a tool.
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You know, I sold my company, I kind of retired.
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And then I realized that financial freedom means nothing
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because the point of life is not actually about making money.
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It can also not do that if you stress yourself out.
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If money is a primary reason that you make any decision,
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it doesn't matter if you have a million dollars
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Money is a store of value and needs to be put to work.
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so you have options about how you wanna spend it
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I mean, at the end of the day, people talk about happiness.
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And when I look back at the days where I felt that way,
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it's usually spent with people I really admire,
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creating something really cool that was kind of hard
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to do things that were gonna impact a lot of other people.
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is your net worth oprah famously said surround yourself with only people who are going to lift
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you higher if you think about it you got to look around your peer group and ask yourself are these
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people that are going to lift me up to achieve higher levels my friend jokingly asked me because
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i was saying that you know i'm trying to upgrade my network and he said how many of your friends
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have private jets or gatecoats and at the time i was like none he's like look it's not about the
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money, but that's usually a good filter because people that are kind of vibing at that level
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typically have a lot of cool stuff going on in your life. And if you want to get in a room where
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you're going to feel like an imposter, which is the key, then you got to make sure that those
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people are doing really big things. Most people make the mistake. They say you become the average
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of the five people you spend time with. I would actually, you become the average of the five
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people that you let influence you. I upgrade my relationships all the time. I look at my goals.
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I look at where I spend my time and I get asked myself if these people are going to help me and support me with my goals.
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If I feel like they'll slow me down or they'll always talk down on me or they're just not wanting to create a life at that level.
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I have to evaluate where I'm at and find some new people.
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I can just figure out where I can spend time with other folks that might get me to where I'm going a lot faster.
00:26:24.280
So if you're fast growing, you need to look at who you're spending time with and cut anchors
00:26:29.340
holding you back. Which brings us to number 14, which is define your why. When I started out,
00:26:34.820
I use a lot of dark energy to build my life. I had a lot of people I wanted to prove wrong,
00:26:39.660
like my buddy Mike's mom, who said I couldn't play together, to my dad, who I didn't think at
00:26:45.380
the time he believed in me, to everybody that ever doubted my ability to win. I know I didn't
00:26:51.220
give them a lot to go off of but that was the energy to prove people wrong but then once i
00:26:55.980
achieved success and i became a multi-millionaire this actually needed to shift to light energy and
00:27:01.040
the reason why is that dark energy can work it's just heavy so to go bigger you got to figure out
00:27:05.880
your why because that'll pull you forward not push you forward using dark energy it's more of a light
00:27:11.380
energy pulling you forward my why is huge it's very simple i want to become the person i needed
00:27:16.100
most of my darkest days and I want to teach everything I've learned that worked for me
00:27:20.360
along the way. You know, my friend Coach Bert says, you know, you should go to bed tired,
00:27:24.160
wake up hungry. A lot of people see me get up at four in the morning and go back, back, back,
00:27:28.380
back and do everything with the kids, the family, the workouts, the team meetings, the podcast tours,
00:27:32.940
the media stuff, flying around, all this stuff. What they don't get is my work ethic is a reflection
00:27:38.320
of my gratitude, my gratitude for the opportunity, my creator giving me this chance. I just want to
00:27:44.120
show up and give as much as I can towards my why. So I'm going to ask you, what are you optimizing
00:27:49.420
your life for? Essentially, what are you trying to do? Are you just trying to get rich? That could
00:27:53.400
work. If everything you do is to make more money, you could become really great at that. At some
00:27:57.280
point, you might ask yourself, what's the meaning of it all? Because I know if that I found out that
00:28:01.080
tomorrow at five o'clock was my last day, I'm not rushing to the office. I'm not rushing to go
00:28:06.020
snowboarding. I'm going to grab my family members that I can grab. I'm going to sit down. I'm going
00:28:10.120
to hang with them. I'm going to pour into them. And in the last breath, I got to leave this earth
00:28:14.240
with a smile because I spent the time with the people I wanted to most. So there's opportunities
00:28:19.120
all day to make more money. I get hundreds of investment opportunities every day. I could spend
00:28:23.760
a lot more time looking at them, but I say no to most opportunities, speaking gigs, traveling the
00:28:29.040
world, free vacations, dinner requests, everything. Because the last thing I want to do is get really
00:28:35.340
excited about a new opportunity actually be successful climb this ladder of success only
00:28:40.500
to find out that that ladder that future is leaning against the wrong wall and look across
00:28:45.660
the room and see the ladder on a different wall which is actually where i want to be so we have
00:28:50.760
to begin with the end in mind we have to know what our why is what our purpose is that's really cool
00:28:55.460
having a big why just makes the whole process easier and will make you more money before we
00:29:00.960
move into the second piece of content we've got a goal of hitting 500 000 subscribers so if you
00:29:05.320
haven't already, click subscribe. It takes just a second. Number two is my conversation with Tony
00:29:10.060
Robbins on how he went from broke to billionaire. I had four different fathers. We were always broke.
00:29:14.580
They're all good men and we had no money for food. You could be a really good person and work really
00:29:19.580
hard and have nothing. We're all equal as souls, but we're not equal in the marketplace. We are
00:29:25.420
here with the legend, Tony Robbins. If you had a thousand dollars or a hundred million dollars to
00:29:30.160
invest, the most important decision you're going to make is not whether you're going to invest in
00:29:33.400
apple or buy this piece of real estate it's your philosophy of investing who are the wealthiest
00:29:37.880
people in the world what industry are they in when i ask most people they think tech completely wrong
00:29:41.960
and they think real estate wrong it's i asked ray dalio the most successful hedge fund guy in the
00:29:47.400
history of the world is there one principle that's the most important principle to becoming
00:29:51.720
financially successful he said tony i wrestled that for 12 years and i can tell you what i call
00:29:56.840
the holy grail of investing welcome everybody we are here with the legend tony robbins tony thanks
00:30:03.080
for taking some time today thanks for having me on i'm really excited uh we're going to dive into
00:30:07.320
your book you wrote the the third book in the trilogy the holy grail of investing and it is
00:30:13.480
a banger i spent the last there you go i'll be ready to get you the regular one the real thing
00:30:17.640
before i get into it i've got a question for sure i was at one of your events six years ago i got
00:30:23.320
introduced to your work an incredible event and you said something on stage that it just hit me
00:30:29.400
you see you were talking about your your backstory and all the challenges and you kind of just said
00:30:34.520
i built this mfr like i built tony it just struck me because i was like wow like this is how it
00:30:41.240
works when you think of like the new year how do you decide what areas of your life do you want to
00:30:47.480
kind of go deeper on and expand well i don't believe in just doing new year's resolutions
00:30:51.720
because they don't work obviously when people call it new year's resolution 91 of the people
00:30:55.480
don't follow through that's the statistic i don't know how accurate it is but it's probably pretty
00:30:59.880
accurate and i think it's because they express what they want but they don't really have a path
00:31:05.080
or a plan or a strategy and um and and so it doesn't last and so i think it's really critical
00:31:10.840
that you don't just come up with something you want to do that you have some idea of
00:31:14.600
it's like i always tell people if you want to make progress in anything you got to get on the
00:31:18.040
path well how do you know if you're on the path well whether it's your finances whether it's your
00:31:22.120
business, whether it's your relationship, whether it's your body. The first thing is, do you know
00:31:25.680
exactly what you really want and do you know why you want it with enough reasons, strong enough
00:31:30.800
reasons to get you through? If you're not clear what you want, most people are clear what they
00:31:34.500
don't want. I don't want to live this way. I don't want to be this way. Focus goes where energy
00:31:39.680
flows. Energy is going to flow where you focus. The whole focus is, what do you want with precision
00:31:44.440
and then getting those strong enough reasons. Then the second step for people that I look at
00:31:48.660
is, okay, all right, if this is what I really want,
00:32:10.000
But then the second one might be limiting beliefs.
00:32:18.060
I hadn't tried everything, I tried everything, I would have been fit.
00:32:20.300
And I eventually tried lots of things and got fit and stayed fit, right?
00:32:23.700
Or, you know, all the good ones are gone, right?
00:32:27.400
So those beliefs can keep you from making progress.
00:32:30.000
And unless you change those, setting a new goal doesn't mean anything.
00:32:34.160
The third thing that can get in the way is some other emotion like overwhelm or stress
00:32:38.640
or sadness or depression or feeling sorry for yourself
00:32:41.680
or any other emotion that slows the accelerators of your life.
00:32:46.160
And then the fourth thing that can get in the way for people very often is habits.
00:32:49.600
So you say you want to lose 20 pounds, and the first thing you do in the morning is go to Starbucks and have a smoke-a-mocha, whatever.
00:32:58.440
It's one thing to have, you know, resolve you want something, but that resolution isn't real if you don't have rituals to back it up.
00:33:05.640
And so you've got to come up with what those habits are.
00:33:08.080
Or the last thing you might be missing is you just might be missing the skill.
00:33:11.680
Like, you know, finance, most people don't know how to get asymmetrical risk-reward.
00:33:19.360
That's how they became a billionaire, the ones that started with nothing.
00:33:23.860
They figure out what's the minimum risk or the most amount of upside that I can possibly get.
00:33:28.340
And they do that over and over again, and you're going to eventually win.
00:33:30.820
So if you don't know certain skills in a relationship, certain skills in how to run your business,
00:33:35.080
certain skills in how to make your body go, then you're probably not going to make the progress.
00:33:39.760
And once you know that, then you come up with your massive action plan and you don't wait
00:33:45.140
You take action and then you go slay your dragons.
00:33:52.400
You keep measuring and improving and you'll get to where you really want to go and then
00:34:01.000
I look at it as saying, I got to get clear what I want now at this level and what the
00:34:05.780
increases are and then what's gotten in the way and then what am I going to do?
00:34:09.680
go get what's in the way out of the way and then let me create some daily practices that virtually
00:34:13.920
guarantee it it's kind of awesome to watch because even six years ago i've seen your approach to your
00:34:19.600
interventions kind of kind of evolve right they're they're a little different they're softer and we've
00:34:25.360
got um so much to dig into i'm just curious why this book like why why choose to i was telling
00:34:32.640
you earlier that it's like you there's a difference between retail investing and professional
00:34:37.600
investing you went into the world where all the rich people you know the people say it's a rich
00:34:42.400
get richer you went to where the people that know how to make money they shared their strategies
00:34:48.560
why this book why now well it's the final it's a trilogy and i didn't expect to write three books
00:34:55.040
i wrote the first book a little 670 page little monster number one new york times bestseller
00:35:00.080
still the best-selling financial book of this century century's only 24 years old but still
00:35:04.400
i'm proud of it because i wrote a book i wanted my billionaire friends could get value out of but
00:35:08.800
so could a person who's just beginning the journey so i really am proud of that book and it's like
00:35:12.480
soup to nuts and i learned so many things by interviewing 50 of the greatest investors in
00:35:17.520
the world at that time that's why i did it i thought i knew a lot i certainly did i worked
00:35:21.600
with paul tudor jones one of the top 10 traders for 24 years hadn't lost money during that time
00:35:26.480
so i learned a lot from him but i want to learn from everybody and i learned four things fundamentally
00:35:31.760
I learned don't lose money is their first focus, which that's not most people's, because they know, you know, if you talk to Warren Buffett, you know, his rule is rule number one, don't lose money.
00:35:41.020
Rule number two, see rule number one. Right. Well, that's ridiculous. Of course, you're going to lose money.
00:35:45.100
But their focus is not to lose money, because if you're only trying to make money, you don't look at the downside.
00:35:50.640
You're going to get hurt. And if you have a stock that drops 50 percent, you don't need 50 percent to get even.
00:35:56.080
You've got to get 100 percent return to get even. Right.
00:35:59.300
So the way they do that is the second principle.
00:36:01.440
No matter whether they're a macro trader or they're a value investor, it didn't matter.
00:36:05.980
They all look at the way to protect themselves as having the right asset allocation.
00:36:12.220
Because asset allocation is big words for some people,
00:36:14.540
but all it means is if you add $1,000 or $100 million to invest,
00:36:19.360
the most important decision you're going to make is not whether you're going to invest in Apple
00:36:29.740
A bucket that's a security bucket where you're going to take some percentage of your money,
00:36:35.960
20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, 70%, whatever it is, is going to go in a place where it's low risk.
00:36:41.420
And less returns, so it's going to take longer to get there.
00:36:44.860
But because it's low risk, you're going to get there.
00:36:47.140
It's like the turtle versus the hare type race.
00:36:50.100
Then how much are you going to put that's in a risk bucket?
00:36:53.040
Now, on the risk bucket, you have the potential for huge upside,
00:36:56.120
but you also have the potential for big downside.
00:36:58.060
And so what is that? Is that 50-50, 60-40, 70-30, 30-70? And, you know, explain to people how to do that. But what I found out over the years, and now there's plenty of reports to back it up, is that the ultra-wealthy have over 46% on average of their money in private equity, private real estate, and private credit.
00:37:18.660
That is very different than 90% of the population.
00:37:23.240
Most people, they go and they put their money in stocks and bonds in their home
00:37:26.980
Those are the types of things where most people are moving them around.
00:37:30.860
Well, diversification was the fourth principle that we all know.
00:37:37.700
the most successful hedge fund guy in the history of the world,
00:37:41.100
he's now managing almost $195 billion, to give you an idea.
00:37:48.200
In 2008, when things dropped, what, it was at 34%, if I remember right, he was up 8%, to give you an idea.
00:37:53.640
I mean, just genius. He warned everybody about it.
00:37:56.360
So I asked him when I first met him 12, 13 years ago, and we're just becoming friends,
00:38:01.840
I said, you know, of all the things we've talked about, is there one principle above anything else
00:38:06.060
that's the most important principle to becoming financially successful as an investor?
00:38:10.200
And he said, Tony, I wrestled that for 12 years, and I can tell you what I call the holy grail of investing.
00:38:15.900
That's where the title comes from. It's not from me. It's from him.
00:38:22.080
Once you know the fundamentals that you know, and asymmetrical risk reward is one of those
00:38:26.500
So once you know those principles, you've got a great opportunity.
00:38:30.480
But people want to get to their goals and they want to get there faster and most people
00:38:34.560
So the only way to get there faster is get higher returns or put more money in, which
00:38:39.700
Or you think higher returns, you've got to take bigger risks.
00:38:42.960
And then you can lose everything and now it defeats itself, plus all the stress involved.
00:38:47.920
said, so I figured out a mathematical principle. This is his principle, holy grail. If you can find
00:38:54.640
eight to 12 uncorrelated investments, now correlated so your audience knows, or uncorrelated,
00:39:01.560
a simple example, stocks and bonds. When the economy is going great, most people put their
00:39:05.260
money in stocks because companies are growing, you get a bigger return. When things are trouble,
00:39:09.480
they're counting on their bonds to balance them out because they're supposedly non-correlated,
00:39:13.360
except when we have these big crashes, they all drop and your broker goes, I don't know,
00:39:17.180
it's not supposed to do that right and what i learned from ray is that happens all the time
00:39:21.580
and he explained why which we won't take the time to do right now but here's what he said
00:39:24.660
if you can find eight to 12 uncorrelated investments you reduce your risk 80 percent
00:39:30.820
tony and increase your upside i'm like are you serious and he showed me how it works in the math
00:39:36.720
it's all detailed so then i went to go to work how do i find eight to 12 things that aren't tied
00:39:41.540
together in some way and the world is tied together so much in the public markets and so
00:39:46.400
then I started looking at private assets and it's like, wait a second, here's a nice statistic for
00:39:50.760
your audience. In the last 35 years, every year, public stock markets have produced a lower return
00:39:58.820
than average, not the best. I interviewed 13 of the very best, the biggest in the world in private
00:40:04.080
equity and private credit. But the average has outstripped every stock market in the world in
00:40:09.420
terms of profits. So I'll give an example. Most people are familiar with the S&P 500 index, top
00:40:13.140
500 companies. Well, but you go through the S&P index and you say, how's it done over the last
00:40:18.260
35 years? It's produced an average return compounded at 9.2%. So that's pretty nice.
00:40:24.160
If you're getting 5%, it takes you 14 years to double your money. You know, 9%, you're doing it
00:40:28.600
in eight years. But average, not great, average private equity did 14.2% at the same time.
00:40:35.360
So you were getting 50% greater returns every year, compounded year after year. So you know
00:40:40.800
what that means. If you put a million dollars away 35 years ago and put it in the S&P 500 and
00:40:45.720
forgot about it without doing anything, it's worth $26 million today. But if you took the
00:40:50.940
same million dollars and put it in private equity, average private equity, it's worth $139 million
00:40:56.400
today, 500% more. So it became a no-brainer to say you can't put everything in private equity.
00:41:03.100
You still need public markets, but maybe we should model the asset allocation of the smartest people
00:41:08.340
on earth so then i went to go work on that and dan you know because you you've done well in your
00:41:13.200
life you know there's only a few players that are the best in the world and and access it's not
00:41:19.720
available to everybody access how do i get access and then there's a second problem which is okay
00:41:23.960
if i'm gonna for me first it was just access like you know i know a lot of people i've got a good
00:41:28.440
brand i've helped a lot of people so i got access to some but it's kind of like trying to get access
00:41:32.660
to the new sp3 you know three ferrari that's four million dollars even if you have the money you
00:41:37.860
can't get it because it's only sold to the guys that already bought before and that's what happens
00:41:42.500
here all the pension funds all the sovereign funds all these people get those spaces so i would get
00:41:48.100
little slivers and one day i was talking to a good friend of mine who was one of paul tudor jones's
00:41:52.420
partners who started his own firm really successful guy i was talking about my frustration that i've
00:41:58.260
gotten a few of these but you know too small to have a real impact he said tony he goes you've
00:42:05.060
been a good friend to me you've helped me in so many ways i'm going to help you i'm going to tell
00:42:08.740
you where i put most of my money i said most of your money he said yeah he goes there's this place
00:42:12.500
in houston i said houston i thought he was gonna say singapore london new york connecticut he goes
00:42:17.940
this group they're they're one of the best in the world and they've found a way where you don't have
00:42:22.580
to get in the fund see when you invest in a fund you're called a limited partner where you're an
00:42:27.460
owner called a general partner right just for your audience's clarifications and he goes you can buy
00:42:32.420
a piece of the general partnership a slice and own the business now these guys these are the masters
00:42:38.500
of the universe financially who are the wealthiest people in the world what industry are they in
00:42:42.260
when i ask most people they think tech completely wrong then they think real estate wrong it's
00:42:47.220
financial services but it's not hedge funds because they go up and down these guys in private equity
00:42:54.740
There used to be 8,000 companies in the stock markets.
00:43:09.440
most companies in the world are privately held.
00:43:14.280
and they don't just try to buy at the right time.
00:43:21.760
They bring in new tech, they bring in a new CEO, and they grow the company, and then they
00:43:26.180
sell it for a multiple to a bigger company, or they take it public.
00:43:32.660
Well, because the kinds of returns they get are so much better.
00:43:35.260
People say, I'm happy to have some of my money be tied up for that kind of return.
00:43:38.680
For them, that means they don't have to worry about the markets going up and down.
00:43:45.360
That's why they get such unbelievable returns, and they're adding value.
00:43:47.920
They're not just trying to find the right thing at the right price.
00:43:50.760
So I was blown away seeing those results, and I was like, okay, how do I do this?
00:43:55.720
And what I found out is, you know, they get their 2 and 20.
00:43:58.320
For those unfamiliar, when you give them your money, they get 2% per year.
00:44:02.560
That's what they charge on your money, whether they make money or not.
00:44:08.660
Well, people are willing to do it because it's not uncommon for a firm to go from a billion to 2 billion in five years.
00:44:14.280
They make $100 million in fees over those five years.
00:44:17.740
They make $200 million, the 20% of the next billion.
00:44:20.340
They make $300 million on a billion-dollar investment.
00:44:23.280
And most of them, the ones I interviewed, are $35, $50, $100 billion firms.
00:44:29.700
And they've all done 20% or more compounded for decades.
00:44:32.440
One guy in the group has done 36% compounded for 26 years.
00:44:39.700
So then I thought, okay, well, I can help my friends, wealthy friends.
00:44:47.560
is because I had all these principles of distinction.
00:44:49.500
I own 65 of the biggest companies in the world.
00:44:52.420
I'm getting the two and 20 right beside the owners,
00:44:54.480
and I got their business when there's no inflation,
00:45:01.300
And then I saw that Congress finally did something.
00:45:07.220
the richest people in the world get access to the best investments.
00:45:12.280
because the law says you have to be an accredited investor or even higher in some of these firms.
00:45:17.160
And that means you have to have a million dollar net worth already, not counting your house,
00:45:21.260
or $200,000 in annual income, right? So Congress saw what I believe was true. I didn't have
00:45:27.820
nothing to do with it, but they just passed across the Congress. And now the Senate's
00:45:31.160
taken it up. It should get passed hopefully in the next two or three months because it's
00:45:35.080
bipartisan and the first one already passed. And they said, look, you shouldn't have to
00:45:39.240
have a certain amount of money to do this, you should just know what you're doing.
00:45:43.460
Some people build a business or they inherit money. When they get to do it, they're not
00:45:47.740
sophisticated. You take a test, you study and take the test, and then you can have access to
00:45:52.080
these same components. So now the world can have access to this. So that's why I decided to bring
00:45:57.180
this out at this time. But if you can imagine being able to have all that income, like you
00:46:01.880
would get from, let's say, bonds at the same time, like the income's between 8% and 10% on most of
00:46:07.420
firms each year just just on the fees that's guaranteed so when i invest in the firm 80
00:46:12.860
of my investment is already guaranteed just by the income coming back from the guaranteed fees
00:46:17.420
and then i get the upside of the 20 and we had one firm that was doing i think uh i think we
00:46:22.620
started them when they were doing uh 3.8 billion or something like that and now they're at 22.
00:46:29.020
it doesn't take a lot more employees to do that by the way the profitability of that firm is
00:46:33.740
through the roof and by the way if that firm gets sold to a bigger firm i'll get the multiple on
00:46:37.500
that business when it gets sold so it's pretty amazing and so i walk people through all these
00:46:42.620
different avenues so you can do something that's not correlated so you can have 80 less risk and
00:46:48.780
have more upside it's interesting because like going through the book as a business nerd i'm
00:46:53.660
loving each chapter is exposing me to these new investment strategies my my three favorite for
00:46:58.780
people listening is the gp stakes you touched upon the private credit which was obvious in hindsight
00:47:03.980
when she started unpacking that and then sports team ownership which i know you've got to stake
00:47:08.540
in the sacramento kings team liquid on the esports side what investment kind of category did you get
00:47:15.900
most excited about talking to all these incredible um investors that you decided to kind of pursue
00:47:21.580
or which one do you think was most fascinating for you those three are probably my favorite
00:47:25.900
although i've got a huge amount of money invested in the energy sector as well for
00:47:30.220
that's yeah you had two chapters dedicated to energy yeah because i got a project in hydrogen
00:47:34.140
that's unbelievable right now so i'm so excited about that and has unbelievable returns but i
00:47:38.620
would say uh owning these companies where you get to be a partner with the smartest people in the
00:47:43.500
world that's pretty hard to beat but let's take private credit for example in 2021 just a couple
00:47:48.620
years ago you could make no money on bonds before they raised interest rates right so what bonds
00:47:53.500
went crazy were junk bonds. You know, they call them high, you know, high income bonds, right?
00:47:58.540
But they're just junk. They're terrible. And if you remember in 2021, you were going to get one
0.99
00:48:02.780
or two percent somewhere else, but you got 3.9 percent on junk bonds taking huge risks. And of
00:48:07.900
course that industry imploded, right? The market dropped through the floor. When everyone else
00:48:12.540
is taking these giant risks at 3.9 percent, I was getting 9 percent on private credit.
00:48:17.580
Private credit is just since 2008, the banks have tightened up. Most people know about what
00:48:35.620
and they loan to the same companies over and over.
00:48:39.820
Now, the beautiful thing about private credit is
00:48:44.440
No bank on, banks would die for that kind of return.
00:49:02.520
But what's been amazing is if you bought a mortgage
00:49:05.440
and it was at 3% and it was fixed, you're happy right now.
00:49:17.820
Well, in business, those are always floating rates.
00:49:19.860
So we loan money to people in these firms, let's say, at 5% and 6% originally,
00:49:27.540
Now, get a sense of what the profitability is on.
00:49:30.420
That's the same loan with the same people with no additional expense,
00:49:35.120
and our profitability is through the roof, and I got the 2 and 20 on that as well.
00:49:39.360
But the one that's most fun is sports because I'm a sports guy.
00:49:45.960
One of my forefathers was a semi-pro baseball player,
00:49:52.120
And I got clear that that wasn't going to happen by the time I got to high school.
00:49:57.820
But the bottom line is I was like, someday I really want to be a sports team.
00:50:02.760
Well, you know, about a little less than a decade ago, I finally had enough money and enough resources and some good partnerships.
00:50:13.520
We built the stadium with my partner, Peter Gruber, and a group of other partners.
00:50:18.280
And then I moved to Florida, so I'm nowhere near there.
00:50:26.500
But then, in the last three years, there's been a new rule change.
00:50:30.680
And other than the NFL, all the other sports leagues now have a way.
00:50:35.120
Only a few firms can do it because you can't use leverage.
00:50:38.620
But you can buy a piece of more than one sports team.
00:50:42.780
So now I own, not only do I own the Warriors and the Dodgers,
00:50:46.320
but I own the Red Sox and the Sacramento Kings. I own the Pittsburgh Penguins in hockey.
00:50:51.920
It's amazing what you get to have a piece of. And to give you an idea, like Michael Jordan
00:50:56.540
bought his Charlotte team, the NBA team, for $275 million about 12 and a half years ago.
00:51:02.700
A group of people, including us, bought that interest for $3 billion. $3 billion. That's his
00:51:08.940
return on 12 years. Another example is just the average. These investments are no longer just
00:51:15.840
butts in seats. And by the way, it's not correlated to the stock market. That's the power.
00:51:20.760
So inflation hits, they just raise the price of a hot dog and people pay it. But it's no longer
00:51:25.220
just butts in seats. It's also media. So when Peter Gerber and his partners originally bought
00:51:29.960
the Dodgers and they paid $2 billion for them. And everybody thought they overpaid. Everybody
00:51:36.560
thought they overpaid. The most any sports team I'd ever gone for was $800 million baseball team.
00:51:41.140
And people thought they were worth a billion. They were an amazing franchise. But $2 billion?
00:51:45.340
So I went to Peter, because I'm going to be part of this.
1.00
00:52:01.300
We'll have a little party together, and we'll laugh.
00:52:04.900
He sold the local TV rights for $7 billion and made $5 billion net immediately.
00:52:11.700
And when you own a sports team, you keep your local rights,
00:52:14.420
but you also get an equal share of everybody else around the nation.
00:52:19.060
So whether you're a small team or a big team, you get your percentage of that.
00:52:24.160
So the average return in the last 10 years across Major League Baseball, the NBA, Major League Soccer, and hockey,
00:52:31.060
if you took those four and merged them, the average return is 18% compounded per year.
00:52:36.500
It's been 11% for the S&P 500, and it's not correlated.
00:52:44.320
No one else can compete with you in that city, in that sport.
00:52:53.200
That's where the word fan comes from, fanatics, multi-generational.
00:52:56.700
So it's an amazing business, and it's fun, and it's enjoyable,
00:53:00.100
and people can be involved with it now like they never could before.
00:53:05.000
And it was so cool reading the examples in the book.
00:53:08.440
Tony, obviously you got the chance to meet and interview some of the best.
00:53:12.740
as some of them are my heroes robert f smith from this as a software guy he's the goat right
00:53:17.580
vinod kosla david sacks like i met david sacks 13 years ago and he's just become literally the
00:53:24.960
category king in sass out of all those people what like does anybody stand out or do you feel
00:53:31.860
like they all have their genius like what did you learn talking to these these wizard of the
00:53:36.320
financial world i learned so many things and they're in the book but but i looked also for
00:53:40.700
common patterns because then you see universal principles that work and by the way you know
00:53:45.260
sax is genius original the original paypal mafia is an unbelievable guy and i love him personally
00:53:51.260
but he you know i think robert smith would take offense to he's the owner of sass because robert
00:53:56.860
is the owner of sass robert's got a hundred billion dollar firm and i can't say what his
00:54:01.580
returns are because you got to get the prospectus to do it legally but just he's the highest return
00:54:06.220
of anybody that i interviewed for the longest period of time it's mind-boggling what he has
00:54:10.460
done and he started with absolutely nothing what i found really most interesting was the way they
00:54:16.460
think about business and entrepreneurship when i interviewed the 50 smartest investors in the world
00:54:22.540
traditional investors ray dalio carl icon warren buffett you know paul tudor jones
00:54:27.340
they're all have different ways of doing things but they're trying to buy something at the right
00:54:30.780
price right and the right time what's so cool about private equity is the best people they're
00:54:37.420
not buying just trying to get but they like to get a great price but they're gonna their entire
00:54:41.900
focus is adding value and what i mean by that is when i first met jim rome my original teacher
00:54:47.580
he answered one of the most important questions i had burning in my life and it changed my life
00:54:51.980
i had four different fathers we were always broke the reason i provide a hundred million meals a
00:54:56.540
year i've done a billion meals in the last eight years is because someone provided food for my
00:55:00.580
family when we had nothing when I was 11. I never forgot it. I started with two families, four, and
00:55:04.460
built up. Well, if you look at somebody like what Robert's done, Robert's been in a position where
00:55:10.380
he started with literally nothing and he built up, but he did it based on the principle that I
00:55:14.780
learned from my teacher, Jim Rohn. Jim Rohn, I asked him, I said, how come my fathers, they're all good
00:55:18.940
men and we're always broke. We had no money for food. And he said, Tony, we're all equal as souls,
00:55:25.780
but we're not equal in the marketplace I said what do you mean he said Tony you could be a
00:55:31.620
really good person and work really hard and have nothing he goes I brought up school teachers you
00:55:37.960
know how little they make and how unfair that is compared to this hedge fund guy and he goes Tony
00:55:42.400
well let's start with McDonald's he said I'm not being derogatory but it's not designed to be your
00:55:46.800
long-term job it's an entry job because you don't get paid much because it's easy to learn anyone
00:55:52.920
can do that job so it's not valuable you're paid in proportion to the value you bring to people
00:55:58.840
there's not a lot of value today there's machines now starting to replace these people in fast food
00:56:02.920
places right that that's why they make so little but the guy you're saying is terrible he said
00:56:08.680
your teachers how many of them were truly great i said i had some great teachers how many tell me
00:56:13.800
them and i listed three right he said yes out of your entire education there's three the others
00:56:19.560
would you agree some were good some were mediocre some were terrible I said yeah he goes and they're
00:56:23.600
coaching they're helping 20 or 30 students he goes so they're paid and they're not in a position
00:56:29.320
where if they do well they're paid more because they wanted to guarantee and they got to guarantee
00:56:32.920
them they do a lousy job but if you want to put yourself on the line and be valuable it's a very
00:56:37.000
different game so he said the guy you're making fun of or being derogatory towards most people
00:56:42.880
in those days were getting six percent returns he goes he got a 48 percent return on billions of
00:56:52.740
So he's worth a billion dollars because he added that much more valuable.
00:56:56.560
He said, you need to focus on finding a way to do more for others than anybody else in whatever industry you're in.
00:57:02.820
You'll build a brand and you'll become dominant and you'll have a blast because you're a giver, Tony.
00:57:08.040
You're going to be proud of what you're doing, not just make a lot of money.
00:57:11.660
And that's why I got these, that's actually 114 companies now total.
00:57:15.700
We're doing $7 billion in revenues, and, I mean, every single company we've built might have that obsession with adding value.
00:57:22.820
And that's what I saw in every one of these people.
00:57:25.740
They didn't just buy the asset or buy it right and then flip it over or cut it up in pieces like private equity used to do 20 years ago.
00:57:34.220
Now it's like, okay, you go to Robert Smith and you've got a SaaS organization.
00:57:38.020
He has built a system where you can take any SaaS company and grow it.
00:57:42.060
He knows how to bring the right CEO in the place, what the marketing piece, who are the right people, how can you advance the technology, how can you cut the cost?
00:57:49.060
So he makes it so valuable, and then he sells it to a bigger company or takes it public.
00:57:53.460
So every single one of them was obsessed with adding value, and that is really, really unique, but they do it in a different way.
00:58:02.100
You know, if you go to Veritas Capital, you know, Ramsey, he was partners with a guy 12 years ago and a guy committed suicide and they had a $2 billion fund.
00:58:15.280
And the fund was, you know, it had a clause in your agreement as a limited partner that if anything happened to the original founder investor, you could take your money back.
00:58:28.680
So he literally met with every, around the world, every investor, flew and met with them one-on-one
00:58:33.180
and said, I want you to stay with us and here's what I'm going to do. He built that fund from
00:58:37.260
$2 billion to $42 billion in 11 years. His expertise was, he said, I'm going to go do
00:58:43.140
business with the government. Government buys more technology than anyone on earth and no one else
00:58:48.460
has mastered it. They all avoid it. I'm going to go master it and own them. And again, I can't tell
00:58:54.140
his returns, but I'll just tell you, they're gigantic returns compounded over a decade
00:58:59.000
continuously because he's figured out how to add value in the government system.
00:59:03.580
If you look at somebody like Khosla that you know, of course, I mean, he took one of his
00:59:07.920
best investments, he took $3 million and turned it into $7 billion, right?
00:59:13.520
He looks around and says, okay, what's a technology that could change the world that
00:59:21.720
He said, I think that's where the web is going to have to go.
00:59:24.140
He made these bets, and 7 billion is not like a gross number.
00:59:29.140
That's the net return to investors off that investment.
00:59:35.620
Each one of them is massively committed to added value.
00:59:41.180
They don't do it ad hoc to take any company in the categories they focus on and grow it.
00:59:47.100
Another reason I love doing this is I have these guys and they're all in different industries.
00:59:51.340
They're all, some of them are different countries.
00:59:53.460
You know, you go to somebody like MBK Partners, right?
00:59:58.200
And, you know, he's the, Michael Kim, he's the, what do you call it, the biggest investor,
01:00:03.080
the most successful private equity investor in basically Japan, China, Asia.
01:00:08.820
He's the richest, you know, South Korean in the world.
01:00:17.240
So I think really knowing your market, really knowing your ideal customer, coming up with products and services that produce raving fans, coming up with an irresistible offer, which is a lot of what they do each time, an offer that is so good that people say, I got to at least try it, and then they over-deliver.
01:00:34.980
They all seem to have that in common, even though they're doing different industries in different ways and have different forms of expertise.
01:00:41.520
it's so great i love the idea because a lot of people they struggle with like should i go all
01:00:46.640
in on my primary business because i they hear diversification but it's like all these people
01:00:51.920
mastered their game systematize it created ways to get the asymmetrical results um i think that's
01:00:59.040
awesome the the question i want to kind of get closer as we wrap up is how has having a child
01:01:04.720
as a 61 year old person change your perspective on life toady i mean when you guys shared that
01:01:10.320
staging yourself it was inspired for me i'm like wow this is really fascinating like
01:01:16.160
how how does that change your perspective on life and how you show up and how you think about your
01:01:20.080
time right because i wrote a book i'll buy back your time how has that impacted where you allocate
01:01:24.880
your time well it's interesting you know before you know i have five kids and five grandkids and
01:01:29.360
my oldest uh daughter is 48 gonna be 49 in about a month and my youngest daughter's coming up on
01:01:36.400
three pretty soon it's two and three quarters so i got quite a quite a spread but um the answer
01:01:41.440
to your question is i didn't want to have both my wife and i uh she couldn't carry because of a
1.00
01:01:47.440
problem with her body so we went through ivf and went through all these processes for years
01:01:53.120
and then our life was on the road she's with me all the time and we don't want to be apart and i
01:01:57.120
was on the road 250 days a year so like i didn't want to bring a kid into that experience just too
01:02:02.240
hard especially at this stage of life so when COVID happened and I found a way I could talk
01:02:07.920
like I'm doing a seminar by the way I should mention for your audience I do a free seminar
01:02:11.280
every year I started with COVID because you know people are trapped in their homes I was doing
01:02:16.240
stadiums and suddenly stadiums said I could put a hundred people in a stadium instead of fifteen
01:02:20.480
thousand I'm like so I built these studios and I started doing these events and I said I want no
01:02:25.280
one to stop by money if they're stuck at home I want to be able to show them how to change their
01:02:28.960
life from their home, and I want to have to travel, obviously, and so we put these events
01:02:33.900
on for three days. There's one coming up January 25th through the 27th, starts at 2 p.m. Eastern,
01:02:38.940
but we have people from 195 countries have come, and we had over a million people last
01:02:43.580
year, and we give you the way it's called Time to Rise. If you go to timetorisesummit.com,
01:02:48.640
timetorisesummit.com, you get tickets, it's free. You can do it from your home or your
01:02:53.460
office, bring your family and your friends, but the reason I bring this up is when I could
01:02:58.040
reach millions of people and go deep and do these giant events now like instead of 10 or 15,000 I
01:03:04.260
got 40,000 people in the event and they're from 195 countries all over the earth at once I was
01:03:09.220
like we could have a kid and we could be home more I still travel but nothing like I did and so we
01:03:14.980
tried one final time and God blessed us and answer your question is it's been the greatest gift of
01:03:19.100
my life because I'm proud of how I've been as a father when I was in my 20s now I married a woman
01:03:23.080
who was 13 years my senior in my first marriage and she had been married twice before and had
01:03:27.440
kids from both their husbands, and I adopted them all. So I was, you know, 24, a 17-year-old,
01:03:33.400
and an 11-year-old, a five-year-old, and then went on the way. So at this stage, it's very
01:03:38.140
different. You know, I've got a lot more to, even more to give. And Sage is such an unbelievable
01:03:42.620
mother, and we have such incredible family. So it's, it's changed things so that now, you know,
01:03:47.600
I have rituals, like I have dinner at 6.30. I've never had dinner a certain time before,
01:03:57.740
You know, at that stage of life, she's learning Chinese and Spanish and English, and she's
01:04:02.440
playing the piano, and she has time just to be a human.
01:04:04.980
And, you know, yesterday flew a kite, which I would never be doing at this stage normally.
01:04:12.620
And I told my wife originally, I said, I'm not having a kid past 50.
01:04:15.540
I said, I'm not going to show up at her high school graduation at 70 years old.
01:04:18.920
Now I'm going to be 80 at her high school graduation.
01:04:21.440
But I got to tell you, it's the most beautiful thing in the world.
01:04:24.380
And I, without naming names, I had a very, very famous designer who I had dinner with one time with Steve Wynn at his resort.
01:04:32.880
And we were sitting at dinner and he was 65 and just had two children.
01:04:39.880
And he went on and on the entire night about how it was the greatest thing in his life.
01:04:46.360
And then God made it possible because of COVID.
01:04:48.440
So I don't have to choose between my mission and my child.
01:04:50.460
get to do it all and she gets to attend the seminars and watch on tv we don't show pictures
01:04:55.420
of i don't even say her name because i want her to have a private life no social media
01:04:59.180
um so she can have just her own life outside of that but she gets to attend and sometimes comes
01:05:03.740
back and looks through the curtain sees what's going on but she because we do so much hybrid
01:05:07.980
you know live events and video base she gets to attend most of the events at this stage which is
01:05:12.540
just a blast it's cool tony to see you even at this stage push the boundaries of what's possible
01:05:18.380
and what you think you can do at different ages.
01:05:27.880
I believe there's actually a free audio chapter.
01:05:30.720
Can you talk more about where they can get that?
01:05:43.940
is there for free and you can listen to it if you'd like
01:05:55.400
Tony, you've had an incredible impact on my life
01:06:00.820
My brother and I remember that when the first one came out,
01:06:17.260
that I do for business is help them grow their business,
01:06:19.160
you know, 30 to 180%, depending on the type of business.
01:06:26.040
So I can't tell people enough about how great you were there.
01:06:33.700
Number three is my keynote on the only four skills
01:06:38.200
I moved to San Francisco because I wanted to understand
01:06:41.440
how these 20-year-olds built billion dollar companies.
01:06:46.220
So I remember I was talking to him once about leverage.
01:06:48.480
The best entrepreneurs have the biggest output for unit of time.
01:06:59.320
There's only four master skills to creating leverage.
01:07:03.440
Once I understood this, I understood I only had four things to go become world-class at.
01:07:11.100
Most entrepreneurs, when they're growing their business,
01:07:14.740
it doesn't matter if it's their first 100k or 300k or million they get to a place where growing
01:07:19.380
is painful and in that spot they usually do one of three things they either stall okay they say
01:07:25.360
to themselves this year i made more money last year than this year i'd rather slow down right
01:07:30.060
and um and and just not grow the problem with that is that the market's growing right gross
01:07:37.240
domestic product grows your customers will demand more from you this year than last year and the
01:07:43.920
The worst part is your top people, if you don't create a future that's big enough for them,
01:07:50.420
then they will go find somebody else can do that.
01:07:54.740
Your dreams have to be bigger than everybody else on your team's dreams and goals.
01:08:07.020
Some of you guys don't even know you're doing this.
01:08:10.680
business was going through some challenges six months of hell we've all been there it's tough
01:08:18.580
and in that storm Tracy tells herself I need to give myself a break and she decides to take a
01:08:27.420
four-week sabbatical do you think a company that's struggling the CEO of the company should
01:08:35.020
take a four-week sabbatical yes or yes no perfect you guys are on the same page it's great but she
01:08:40.360
didn't realize she was sabotaging her success. She had opportunity to keep growing because when we're
01:08:44.660
going through the worst, just so you know this, when we go through the worst, we're actually
01:08:49.280
developing our skills to get to the next level. Huge. Okay, so understand when you're challenged,
01:08:56.140
you should say, thank you. We're the opponent. This is going to shape me to become the person
01:09:01.340
I need to become to get to the next level. Instead, Tracy went on a sabbatical. She missed the
01:09:06.320
opportunity to grow. The third is sell. My buddy Jason called me one day and he's like, hey man,
01:09:11.020
I think I'm going to sell my company. He has an agency, two million in revenue, been doing it for
01:09:15.420
about seven or eight years, and it just became really tough. And I said, Jason, write down all
01:09:21.720
the stuff that you don't like about your business today. He made me a list. And I said, if those
01:09:25.300
things weren't true, would you sell the business? He's like, no. I said, well, let me invite you to
01:09:30.400
consider a different perspective. I know you want to go do something else. You think the grass is
01:09:34.680
greener. Here's what I know. You've just hit your new complexity ceiling. We all
01:09:39.240
have them. Write down complexity ceiling. Complexity ceiling. Anytime it gets hard
01:09:44.220
I want you to look at that term. I said it doesn't matter if you solve it now or
01:09:48.540
you leave and start something else. You will hit the same level of complexity
01:09:52.440
where you decide I don't want to grow anymore. It's your pain line. So what I
01:09:57.600
want to share with you today are three strategies to overcome that pain line.
01:10:01.980
So the first principle that I want to share with you, and it's a universal principle,
01:10:07.180
the buyback principle. We don't hire people to grow our business. We hire people to buy back
01:10:12.100
our time. It's a calendar over a capacity strategy. See, most entrepreneurs, when they're growing,
01:10:20.420
they go, well, now I need to hire another logo designer. I need to hire another real estate
01:10:23.660
agent. I need to hire another, you know, electrician. And I would say, no, you start
01:10:29.640
with your calendar first, because here's the deal. If you do the second, you get the first,
01:10:35.100
but if you do the first, you definitely don't get the second. Most entrepreneurs get to about 1.2
01:10:40.580
million, about 12 employees, where their life starts to get really painful. That pain line
01:10:45.820
is screaming at them every day because they violated this rule. This is the framework. Draw
01:10:53.060
this loop, okay, it's a loop. You need to go through these three steps to move forward. So every time I
01:11:00.640
hit a pain line, okay, today I own dozens of companies and my calendar completely shifts two or three times
01:11:08.000
a year. So I'm going to teach you the exact same thoughts of how I look at my calendar every time I
01:11:12.960
hit my pain line. First step is we got to audit. We got to audit our calendar for time and energy. It's not
01:11:19.300
enough to just look at what we're doing that we can pay somebody else to do it's what are we doing
01:11:23.940
that sucks our energy what i call green or red stuff if we can replace that with green we will
01:11:30.260
transform our lives then transfer is the ability to give what we're doing today the work to somebody
01:11:37.820
else but check this out without taking any extra time using the camcorder method and then the third
01:11:44.400
the problem with fill is most people get to the first and second step, and then they decide to
01:11:49.560
do a four-hour work week. I ain't here to do a four-hour work week, okay? I'm here to teach you
01:11:55.020
guys all how to create an empire, and that word might scare some of you, but let me share with
01:11:59.120
you my definition of empire. You'll want to write this down. A life of unlimited creation you never
01:12:04.480
have to retire from. A life of unlimited creation you never have to retire from. That is an empire.
01:12:11.480
if we fill properly that newfound time then we continue upward if we don't know what to focus
01:12:19.880
on when we find that extra time then we will just repeat that cycle and some of you guys have been
01:12:25.120
in that spot you grow you go down you grow you go down maybe not you maybe the people out there
01:12:30.120
maybe somebody you know out there right up down up down the oscillate if you follow the buy back
01:12:39.240
you'll continue to grow and that's what we're here for today. Million dollar companies were not
01:12:44.000
built off $10 tasks. Write it down. This is math 101. There's not enough hours in the week for you
01:12:51.240
to grow if you're doing $10 tasks and we have a lot of mindset monsters and beliefs that just
01:12:55.800
won't support us to actually scale. The first key strategy I want to teach you about is the
01:13:00.760
replacement ladder. So I want to ask everybody to write down if you are starting from scratch today
01:13:07.480
and you had the ability to hire your first employee who would they be write
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down the answer who would you hire first I want everybody write it down who
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would you hire first all right we're gonna start over here I want to hear
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some answers what you guys got sales anybody else what do we got copywriting
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cool sheet metal roofing so somebody can do sheet metal roofing perfect anybody else
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VA anybody else cold collars assistant anybody secretary recruiter I love those
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here's here's the fun part is uh I can tell the maturity of your business acumen by the hire
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And it's because I've been doing this for 25 years.
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There is a strategy that I learned from this guy, Richard Branson.
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Richard's the billionaire every billionaire wants to be like.
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Whatever you think he is, how he is, is exactly who he is.
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In 2016 or 15, I got a cold email from my buddy out of the blue.
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Hey, Dan, I'm getting together with Richard Branson in Verbier, Switzerland.
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It was so funny because I got the email in May,
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and I thought it was an April Fool's joke, but I'm like, it's May.
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And honestly, it wasn't until I was in Switzerland at his house,
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aka lodge 16 bedrooms 20 staff massive in that living room sitting in that couch
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and richard comes out from the back and actually comes in and says hi to everybody blah blah blah
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that i actually believed he was showing up well you guys gotta understand you want to talk about
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imposter syndrome oh it was so strong in that group of people was tim ferris the the founder
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of Square. You guys know Brian Johnson, the blueprint guy right now? He's doing all those
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like weird life hacking stuff. He was there. He just sold Braintree for 600 million. And there's
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this Canadian kid that I got invited because some guy that I invited to a dinner liked what I was
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building at the time and said, do you want to join? And I was just like, Dan, just don't say
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anything stupid. You can only go downhill from here. You made it in the house. Don't get kicked
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So I just shut up and paid attention. And I'll be honest with you, all I was looking for, I wanted to understand how does a guy, some of you may not realize this, Richard Branson has 400 companies in the Virgin Group of Businesses. That Virgin Group of Businesses, that holdco, has two CEOs.
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notes. I wanted to understand how he thought about scale and leverage. And I just watched.
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I watched how he interacted with his staff. I watched how he managed his time. And this
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is what I saw that I didn't expect. At the time, I had a virtual assistant. I had assistants
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over the years, right? We've all had them. What was different was watching Richard.
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Essentially, anything that came into his life went through his assistant, Helen. And every
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morning for breakfast, they would sit there for 60 to 90 minutes, depending on what was on Helen's
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list. She would review only the things that she didn't know how to deal with. She didn't know how
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to route. She thought Richard would want to know about. And they just had breakfast. They talked.
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And then the rest of the day, he came skiing with us. That's how he ran 400 companies. Do you guys
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want to learn the other stuff that I learned from Richard? Yes or yes? Perfect. This is the
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replacement ladder. We start at the bottom. We work our way up. Why? Let me tell you two different
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things. One, it's the lowest cost to pay somebody to do the work for the biggest
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time purchase back in your life, if you do it right. So that's why there's the
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outcomes. So level one, you might be feeling stuck in your business, it's
01:17:20.400
because you don't have somebody to support you on your account and you're
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in your admin work, but the key is to do like Richard did and give your
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inbox and calendar to your assistant. Some of you guys are getting a little, you
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guys, does that make you nervous a little bit? Anybody? No, you guys are all good just giving
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up your inbox and your calendar to somebody else and letting them figure it out and hopefully you
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show up at the right meeting at the right time. Does that make you nervous? Anybody? Trust me,
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my assistant laughs all the time. She's like, Dan, I could tell you to show up at the edge of a cliff
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and write in the description, jump, and you would do it. I go, well, don't do that, but
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I mean I trust you and it's because I realized that if I can give up the
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the inbound your inbox is nothing more than a public to-do list of other
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people's goals on your time write that down your inbox your email is nothing
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more than a public to-do list of other people strangers requests on your time
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and you allow yourself to be addicted to that so step one is admin number two is
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your customer success, your fulfillment. This is where you have somebody that helps you, but the
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key is you got to give away your support and onboarding. So when I enroll somebody in any of
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my companies, okay, now I have CEOs that run them, but when I was doing it, the first hire after admin
01:18:38.720
would be somebody to help me take the deal that I just closed and move it forward. In real estate
01:18:43.920
it's a transaction coordinator, right? Like you need somebody that'll work with the customer and
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do all the stuff. You can still be the specialist, but give that to somebody else. Level three is
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marketing right now you want to start building and designing a playbook to
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generate leads okay because if you don't do this I'll tell you what happens
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sales is for because you as a CEO will always be able to sell better than
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anybody else you hire and you know it you know it some of you guys are world
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class sales people 70 80% win rate nobody's gonna ever be able to sell like
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that and I'm challenged if you hire too quick and you don't have the systems
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underneath what happens in six months is you either fire them because they're
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not performing because they don't have enough reps and they don't have enough deals, or they quit
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because they're not making any money. Anybody resonate with that? Anybody? Yeah, exactly. It's
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literally the six-month mark, depending how much they like you. Four months, they like you six
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months. And the highest level is the ELT. Write this down. Executive Leadership Team. Some of you
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guys call them leaders and managers. Here's my rule. Do they come with playbooks? Do they come
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with process. If you hire people or, you know, promote people up that has no experience, then
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you're just creating more work for yourself. So when I say at that level, everybody else, the first
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hire in marketing, and those are all people you can hire, train, etc. Because you're going to give
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them a playbook. But when you start hiring leadership, they should come into the company
01:20:12.220
with knowledge. Okay, that's the replacement ladder. And if you follow these five steps,
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Some of my clients that I coach, they'll get there in 45 days.
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They see this, they go, got it, and they execute.
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They hire somebody to support the success, buy back that time out of their calendar,
01:20:36.600
They hire somebody to execute the strategy, generates leads every day consistently.
01:20:43.060
That person comes in, goes through the scripts that they've built or the calls that they've
01:20:46.580
already done, they've recorded, give it to the salesperson. Now they're coaching the team. So
01:20:51.980
you can do this in 45 days or some people are a bit slower and they'll take years, right? Because
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they try to skip levels. You know what happens if you go straight to the top? How many people have
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you heard say, I need to hire a COO? You don't even have an executive admin. That's the silliest
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thing in the world. If you can't even work with your admin, you are not going to work with the
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COO. You need to start at the bottom and build the capacity and to know how to
01:21:20.140
move up. Here's my philosophy. If you don't have an assistant, you are one. I
01:21:27.160
know it stings, right? I'm gonna take the dagger and just a little
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bit more. The other parts of this is you're overpaid and you kind of suck.
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Okay? A great executive admin, they're worth their weight in gold. Okay? So if
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you don't have one, you are the person and you're overpaid. You're not very good at
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your job. So what do we do with that? I want to talk about leadership and I'll
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tell you why. I know CEOs and entrepreneurs are crazy. You guys agree? Yes or yes?
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We're nuts. Think about it. The reason why we're in business in the first place is
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because we're able to deal with the level of risk that most people would puke on themselves and
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pass out. Like, you do understand this. So just admit to it, and then try to develop the leadership
01:22:20.380
skills that protects your team from you. Some of you guys expect your team to show up like you,
01:22:24.780
and that's just silly. They aren't you, and if they were, guess what? They'd be building their own
01:22:29.800
company. So what happens is the way we lead our teams have to shift, okay? So I moved to San
01:22:38.740
Francisco in 2008. This was after selling my first company. I became a multimillionaire at 27.
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And it crushed me. Like I worked easily 100 hours a week for four years. First two companies
01:22:52.360
failed. When I got out of rehab, tried my first company, failed after two years, did another one,
01:22:59.580
was 21, failed after that. It wasn't until I was 24 that I gave it another shot. And my dad would
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begged me even though I grew up and had a very colorful childhood he would just
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beg me to get a normal job it's like dad I can't do it I'd rather you know as
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long as I'm not in prison and I didn't relapse like you should be really proud
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of like I'm doing something I know I'm not making any money but I think I'll
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figure it out and it was until I was you know almost in my early 30s that I
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figured it out so I moved to San Francisco because I wanted to understand
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how these 20 year olds built billion dollar companies. Does that ever make you
01:23:35.680
wonder? These tech entrepreneurs, you read about them on the news, like how do
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they do this? How do they convince these old white guys to give them hundreds of
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millions of dollars to build these tech platforms to, you know, and they're like
01:23:46.420
barely old enough to drive? Like it fascinated me. Just real talk, right? I
01:23:53.380
grew up in the east coast of Canada, so that world was foreign to me. Even though
01:23:56.440
I was in software and I built a big company, that world was fascinating as
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as an outsider and I get there and in the first few days I get invited to a party and I meet a
01:24:06.880
guy named Naval Ravikant. This is 2008. Naval today has been on Joe Rogan. He's an incredible
01:24:14.880
just philosopher honestly but I met him earlier on and he kind of became a mentor of mine. I call
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him one he would never say that but I share that because I remember I was talking to him once about
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leverage. So you got to understand in business, the best entrepreneurs have the biggest output
01:24:33.360
for unit of time. So if you think of the question, okay, write this down, okay,
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time multiplied by leverage equals output. And output could be money, resources, etc.
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If I say, what are the tools to creating leverage?
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The number one tool for creating leverage is...
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Raising money. 80-20. I like that. Anybody else? Social media. AI. Delegation. Yep.
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Leverage. People. I like that. Anybody else? Automation. What else? What? I can't hear you.
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Systems. Ooh. I love systems. Do you know what systems stands for? Save yourself time, energy,
01:25:45.360
and money. Write that down. Systems equals save yourself time, energy, and money. Here's a fun
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fact. Everybody's answer was relatively correct. And this is what I learned. Duval taught me this.
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There's only four, I call them master skills, to creating leverage. Okay? Write these down. The
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four system, the four master skills are, number one, capital. If I have money, I have incredible
01:26:14.280
leverage okay takes money to make money it really doesn't but it takes resourcefulness all of you
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guys in this room have to be more resourceful okay what do you guys need to be more resourceful
01:26:25.880
doesn't take money but money creates opportunity okay so capital is one number two is code some
01:26:33.760
of you guys said automation and ai that fits in that bucket code software three is content
01:26:40.320
Somebody's talked about, I think, podcasts and social media, content.
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I can create a system, an SOP, and it takes me an hour to create.
01:26:49.440
And if I have 100 employees, that one system can train 100 people without extra effort from me.
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Once I understood this, I understood I only had four things to go become world class at.
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and I could have anything I want in my life. Code, capital, content,
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collaboration. So specifically I want to talk to you about how to lead people the
01:27:20.940
collaboration side. Most entrepreneurs go on the left side, transactional
01:27:26.460
leadership. They tell people what to do, they check that they got it done, and then
01:27:30.880
they they tell them what to do next. That sounds pretty straightforward, yes or yes?
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Yeah. I did that for 15 years. 15 years of starting companies at 17 until I finally made some money at 28.
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I mean, not 15, but a lot of time. I just thought that's how you did it.
01:27:49.920
The problem with that is around 10 to 12 direct reports, you wake up in the morning with all the piss and vinegar in the world.
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I'm going to dominate the day. I've got my list of projects and we're going to have a productive day.
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Then the first thing you do is you check your email,
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Then you think, oh, I wonder if Bob, Jane, Mary is working on that right thing.
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And then there's like fires and issues and all that stuff.
01:28:21.840
And it's not until 7 o'clock at night that you finally sit down to start doing the work.
01:28:34.100
If you have a half dozen people that work for you, anybody,
01:28:36.760
and you tell them what to do, you check what they got done,
01:28:38.180
you tell them what to do next, this will become your reality.
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The opposite of that is transformational leadership.
01:28:48.160
but I want you to think of an example in your life
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and apply this principle to that situation, that person.
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the first day, I talk to her about a few principles,
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but the first one is, you are the CEO of my inbox and calendar. Who is the CEO of my inbox and
01:29:08.480
calendar? You are. My assistant, exactly. And I don't mean to be a ding-dong, but I will actually
01:29:14.380
ask her to repeat it back. Who is the CEO? I'm the CEO. Who is the CEO? I'm the CEO. You're the CEO.
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Yay, yay. What does that mean? And I ask them to describe to me what does it mean to be the CEO of
01:29:25.940
my inbox and calendar. Is it my responsibility to put stuff in my calendar or yours? Mine. Yay,
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we're with you know like it sounds foolish but I'm trying to make a little entertaining for all
01:29:36.120
of you guys keep you awake and focused but I'm not it's not that far off when I hire people I
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look them in the eyes and I said I hired you to create this outcome I don't tell them what to do
01:29:48.500
I hired you to create this outcome and then I describe the outcome so I got to tell them what
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does the 10 out of 10 look like my calendar has everything in there it's structured in the
01:29:59.940
description is this, everybody's confirmed, like, this is what a 10 out of 10, like, my travel
01:30:05.620
schedule is figured out, all my flights are booked, international six weeks, domestic two weeks,
01:30:09.980
whatever it is, right? And I get really clear at describing the mountaintop. That's the way I think
01:30:17.020
about it. Some of us hire people, and we don't think about telling them what it's going to look
01:30:21.280
like at the mountaintop, right? We just say, hey, can you start climbing this mountain? They're like,
01:30:25.940
okay, where's the path? You're like, I don't know, it's over there in the corner. And they go over
01:30:30.360
this way. They call you the next morning. I couldn't find that path yesterday. I'm like, what are you
01:30:34.040
doing? No, you say, that's the mountaintop. See right there? That's the mountaintop. You figure
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how to get there. What resources would you need? So then we measure. Okay. So then I explained to
01:30:44.800
the person I hired, I gave them the outcome. I said, here's how we're going to measure your
01:30:47.900
progress. Every person in all my companies have a number. My social media person has a number. My
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CFO has a number, my COO's have a number, my CEO's have a number. They have one
01:30:57.140
number. How many numbers? One number. Now, do they use other numbers to understand
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if they're making good decisions? Yes, but there's one number that we've all
01:31:05.840
agreed on. If you're in the automotive space, the number is called the
01:31:10.160
absorption rate. I'm a software guy and I know this stuff because I
01:31:13.880
love nerding out on business. Absorption rate, it's the number that
01:31:17.780
tells you the ratio of the service department and parts covering the
01:31:21.980
overhead of the the car dealership and that number tells you how efficient it
01:31:27.540
is okay so there's different aspects into it if I'm in the hotel space it's
01:31:32.360
the the average night of room you know booking right that tells me how efficient
01:31:39.060
the hotel is so once I tell my assistant the way I'm gonna measure them okay
01:31:44.960
which is response time that's the number how quick do you respond to people okay
01:31:49.820
and it's a simple tool. You put in your email and they respond. Then when I have
01:31:53.600
issues, somebody asked me this today, what do you do when you have issues with
01:31:55.940
people on your team? Anybody else run into that issues with people on your
01:31:59.120
team? They're humans. They're supposed to have issues. Some of you guys expect
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people to be robots. Like I just, can we, okay, some entrepreneurs, our expectations
01:32:08.000
for their people are up here. Can we just pull it down a little bit? Can we all
01:32:12.500
realize that they have lives that don't revolve around us? And that's okay and
01:32:18.740
awesome? Can we show up with a little bit more empathy? 100%. So what happens is
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anytime I see something that isn't great, I write it down, okay? On my
01:32:30.560
phone, all my direct reports, I have a Google Doc, okay? And it says at agenda,
01:32:35.540
it's got all their names, and I just write down a bullet. Once a week for most
01:32:40.280
of my direct reports, every two weeks at minimum, I sit down with them. Guess
01:32:44.480
was the first agenda item in that meeting. Guess. Review my list. Literally the other
01:32:54.020
person's meeting or one-on-ones is review Dan's list. So I pull up my phone because
01:32:59.120
I forget what I wrote in there and I pull it out. Literally every meeting I
01:33:02.840
have a daily meeting with my assistant Ann. Guess what? She's like, hey Dan what's
01:33:06.240
on your list? And I open it up because I forget. I like to just write stuff down.
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Let me pull it up here. Discuss podcasts when traveling to optimized flights.
01:33:16.520
Example, Charleston podcast. That's the first item on the thing. I just wrote it
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down. Now here's the kicker though. Coach. The way you coach somebody isn't to tell
01:33:28.540
them what they did wrong and tell them how to do it right, which is what most of
01:33:33.340
us do. The way I coach is number one, I ask myself what is the principle that
01:33:38.640
is violating? What expectation do I have and what is that principle? Most often times with leaders,
01:33:45.960
why I want to teach you to become a transformational leader is I want to teach you the process of
01:33:51.440
creating other leaders, okay? And the way we create other leaders is by coaching them up,
01:33:59.960
but most of us have never trained other people or know what a coach does. I'm going to give you
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the three steps. First step, write this down, we go to principle. What is the
01:34:08.860
principle they violate? Okay, so in that situation for Ann, one of the one of the
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there's five core SOP, my SOP is what you say it's called North Stars.
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Actually you guys just want the Google Doc that I work with for my assistant,
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would that be helpful? All right here's the deal, just because you guys are
01:34:28.600
friends of Carlos, follow me on Instagram Dan Martell, two L's of Martell, write it
01:34:33.280
at Dan Martell or you can pull out your phone do it now and then message me
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freedom EA and that'll tell me to give you that document okay because I'm not
01:34:42.460
giving to anybody else and if you're watching the recording it's not for you
01:34:45.160
just for you guys in this room cool yes yes awesome in there you'll see I have
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North Star principles Dan Martell is my name in case you guys are the North Star
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principle one of them is that the calendar is a work of art in complete
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And that is one of the things that was kind of violated.
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She may not have known, I've got to coach her up.
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Give them a story of when you learn that principle.
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Does that bug anybody else when people show up late for meetings?
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Perfect. Okay. Principle. If you're on time, you're late. Does that make sense? That's my principle.
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You may not even know you have these unexpressed expectations, so we got to document them.
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We got to codify them. If you're on time, you're late. So if you're late, you're super late.
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That's the principle. I learned this the hard way. I had a client. I was supposed to meet them.
01:35:50.260
I didn't show up on time. And as soon as I showed up, they said, you missed the deal. I'm going with your vendor.
01:35:55.180
Nobody's late for meetings ever again. And I embarrassed myself.
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you tell your personal story. Okay, you can do a two-minute story, you can do a ten-minute story.
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So depending on the executive, I might tell a ten-minute story, really make it land. And at
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the end, this is the third part. So first part is principle, second part is story, third part is
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takeaway. I'll ask them, what did you take away from that story? What did you learn? And they'll
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say to me in that example, if I'm not three minutes early, I'm late. That's awesome. Then
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commitment. Will you make a commitment that in the future you'll always be on time? Yes.
01:36:31.100
If I did that with somebody, what's the probability that you think they're going to be late in the
01:36:35.040
future? Low. Because they understand that it comes from my heart and that I learned this the hard
01:36:40.120
way and I don't want to have you learn this. Right now it's low stakes. We just started working
01:36:43.380
together. I need you to know. Most people don't follow this process for coaching, okay? So this
01:36:49.080
is the transformational leadership. We start with the outcome. Where are we going? Then we go to
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measure? What is the one number? And then we coach them whenever we see them violate anything and we
01:36:59.360
teach them our thoughts and our stories, our experience. Anybody that's had a great leader in
01:37:04.800
their life, a great boss? Anybody have a great boss? I had this guy Darcy who's just awesome. Exactly.
01:37:09.320
They probably did this to you and you didn't even realize they were doing this. That's what made
01:37:13.000
them great. Here's my big belief. Delegate the outcome, not the task. Write it down. Delegate
01:37:19.840
the outcome, not the task. Stop telling people what to do. Start telling people where we're going
01:37:25.960
and let them figure out how to get there and coach them along the process. And that's how we build
01:37:31.040
people. That's how we coach up. The third and final hot principle is the 131 rule. This will
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absolutely transform your life. Anybody that has a team of people and you're frustrated that your
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phone is always blowing up and they're always calling you and they're always emailing you and
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they don't seem to know how to figure anything out. I'm going to solve this for the rest of your life.
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do you want to learn how to do that yes or yes awesome here's how it works you know why they
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call it a bottleneck because it's at the top so you think the problem's your person on your team
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i'm telling you it's the person you're looking at when you look in the mirror so you've taught
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people this and i'm going to teach you how to unteach them this okay so a few years ago i the
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one-three-one rule and I'll tell you how it works is culture in all my companies
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like you won't meet anybody at any area of the business that doesn't understand
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what it is because we use it as language and I remember I had this director of
01:38:26.520
HR this recruiter on the team and he messaged me he's like hey we got a
01:38:30.960
problem I was like what's going on dude he goes we need to hire 12 people in the
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next 30 days I go yeah he goes well I don't know how to do that
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Wow. Well, what do you think I should do? Oh, I don't know. Well, I've never done it. I said, Adam, I mean, I hired you the director of HR. I hired you to do that job. I don't know how to do that job.
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Out of both of us, who do you think should learn how to do that job? And he's like, well, I mean, do you have any ideas? I said, what's your 131? And he goes, oh, man, I don't know. I don't have time for this.
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And I said, I don't know how to help you, okay?
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If you want to be wealthy, be incompetent, okay?
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If you want to be wealthy, be incompetent.
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I said, Adam, I didn't hire you to tell you how to do your job.
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He said, it's easy to hire other people, tell them what to do.
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It's hard to hire people and have them tell you what to do.
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He said, how about the same time tomorrow we meet up and we review?
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one specific challenge when somebody comes to you with problems okay and I love you women but
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you're the worst you guys I love okay I love you most of my team are executive are women
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but you guys come to me with a hurricane of stuff it's like a tornado I love it it's creative and
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then but I'm like what are we talking about and they're like this is wrong and this is wrong I'm
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like one thing at a time so one specific problem what are your three viable options that you've
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consider. I want to hear them. Tell me how you research them. And then give me your one specific
01:40:42.400
recommendation. If you teach everybody in your team the one through one rules, I'll tell you
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what will happen. One, you'll start having your front line people solve problems that never make
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it up to your attention. Okay? You will teach people, this is another big idea, that we teach
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people how to treat us. Okay? We teach people how to treat us. So if we teach people every time they
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have a problem they come to us guess what they're gonna do when they have a
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problem come to us that's why it's a bottleneck is at the top if you taught
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them how to do this this is how we fix it so 98% of the time somebody comes to
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me as a 131 their recommendation is what we should do and over time they build
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their confidence and I push down all the big decision-making to the front line
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okay and I've got time gonna give you guys you guys want to know the ultimate
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hack. This is like the, I don't share this often. Frontline workers, I give them a $50 budget to
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fix any problem they see and all they have to do is tell me about it after. It's called 50 to fix
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it. So anybody in my company at the front line, they can solve any problem they see if it's less
01:41:50.120
than $50 without getting anybody permission. The only rule is they have to tell their leader within
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the next seven days. Okay, so they can spend their credit card, expense it, it's always approved.
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they get to tell their leader next seven days so they can coach against it. Leaders, managers,
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it's $500. Directors, it's $5,000. And for my executive leadership team, my CEOs, my CRO,
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my CEOs, it's $50,000. What did I just do? I just created a framework to push decisions and issue
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problem solving down to the front line so we can move faster. I'm all about leverage, all about
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speed, all about growth. Most of you guys are walking over dollars to save pennies. It's
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hilarious. Let your people solve the problem and then coach them up. That's how we unlock the
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one-three-one rule in a more tactical level. So here's my philosophy. This is how we scale
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companies. It doesn't matter if you're a company of one or two. We build the people, the people
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build the business. We build the person, the person builds the business. We build a team,
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the team builds a business. When you shift your lens on your role in the company as a people
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builder, it will unlock massive growth. Okay, this is how I do it. So with that, this is my book,
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Buy Back Your Time. Best-selling book, continues to sell more copies every week. Here's the movement
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I'm trying to create. I want to rid the world of companies failing because the CEO builds a business
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they grow to hate. Does that make sense? I think most businesses get built to a place where the
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entrepreneur grows to hate it, and then they want to do something else. I want to get rid of that
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as being the reason the companies fail. And I want to end with this big idea. For every person in the
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world, for humanity, for entrepreneurs, for sure, but everybody, I think we're all here to not only
01:43:39.740
buy back our time to grow our business, and we do that through the strategies I taught you with the
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buyback loop and the 131 and the transformational leadership. That's all awesome. That will create
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resources and wealth for you. Fun. I think we're here to do two things. One, become the person we
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needed most in our darkest days. Become the person you needed most in your darkest days.
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Every day. You wake up and try to create that person that would have had the opportunity to
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speak to that kid. For me to have the character and the resourcefulness to talk to the 15 year
01:44:18.020
old version of Dan. And then while you're doing that every day, this is the second part, is share
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that person with the world. Give that person to the world. And your world may be your kids, your
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world may be your community, your church, your CrossFit gym. I don't care. It may be social media
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and I think that would be the best place. Because I think that if you wake up every day to become
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that person and share that person, but you will create a life of fulfillment that you can't even
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imagine to feel. So with that, everybody, thanks for having me. You guys are awesome.
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Number four is my video on going from zero to a million in 12 months. I became a cash
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millionaire at 27 years old, but if I had to do it again and go from broke to millionaire business
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owner in the next 12 months, this is exactly what I do. If at any point during this video,
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you think, I can't do this, you might not be cut out to become a millionaire, and that's okay. But
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if you're part of the select few who are willing to do the work, then this video is for you. So
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your first month of your millionaire journey is going to be all about learning a high-income
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skill. So these are the five most in-demand high-income skills today. First one is coding,
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software, you're hearing it all the time, SaaS, you know, SaaSpreneur. The second one is content
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creation, you know, everything around video editing, graphic design, essentially helping
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people get their stories, their message out to the world. The third is copywriting, learning how to
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craft words in a structure that gets somebody to take action is a very high paying skill. The fourth
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is project management, understanding how to take an idea all the way across to execution and
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implementation is very valuable. The fifth is sales, even chat sales. Most people don't realize
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that nothing happens until somebody sells something to another person. And there are companies with
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products and inventory that they would pay top dollar to have somebody else help sell and
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communicate to the market and it can pay handsomely. So I learned my first high income skill of all
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places in rehab. I got lucky, honestly. I ended up getting in trouble with the law as a teenager,
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got released into a rehab center that literally saved my life. And I spent 11 months not only
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getting sober, but trying to build the trust I'd lost with my parents and really just build myself
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back up to being a normal person. At the end of that program, I was helping the maintenance guy
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to clean out one of these cabins. And in one of the rooms was this old computer and a book on
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Java programming sitting next to it. I became obsessed with writing code. Through that process,
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I learned that that is actually a very high paying, highly valuable skill. And it was the
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first of several that allowed me to build the career and the entrepreneurial journey that I've
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been on. When you start, you have to spend all your time learning the new skill, the high income
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skill. Even if you have a job, you might be working nine to five, start learning between
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five to nine. The whole point is to increase the value you bring to the marketplace. It doesn't
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matter how much you think people should pay you. It's the kind of value that you bring. So if you're
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doing something that is low paying, like restocking shelves, like don't be upset if you're not making
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the big bucks. The whole point is to figure out how can you increase the value you provide to the
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market. If you figure out what the market wants, what it finds valuable, and you learn that skill,
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you will be rewarded accordingly. Which brings us to month two, which is learn, don't earn.
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I believe that you have to be obsessed with your high income skill. For me, it was writing code.
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I would do everything from build apps for my friends to share photos online, to build an
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application for people to download and create burnt CDs of all their top MP3s. Yes, I'm dating
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myself to build websites for my dad so that he could share his cottage. I just used the skill
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as often as possible. It was just something I offered for free so that I could learn. It wasn't
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about making money. So if I was starting over again, knowing what I know today, here's exactly
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how I would do it. The first thing is I would get somebody a result as fast as possible. Whatever
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skill you want to develop, find somebody that's got the problem that you can provide a solution
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and get them a result as fast as possible. Do the work ahead of time. Every day I get people
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message to me, hey, I could edit your videos or hey, I could sell for you or hey, I can write
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code for one of your businesses. And I'm like, just do it. Show me you can do the thing ahead
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of time. Don't ask me to pay you to show me you can do it. It's the folks that show up and just
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do it that are going to get the opportunity. Then once you actually get them a result, ask them for
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the testimonial. That's how we start to build your portfolio. Once you have two or three or four of
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these, then I can ask for one or two referrals from those people to recommend my work to somebody
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else that they might know that they appreciate or trust. And then I would continue to learn and
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collect feedback on how I can become better. If I do that right, then I'm going to increase my
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pace of learning, not necessarily earning, but it's going to create a flywheel to catapult me
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forward, which brings us to month three, which is to get your first client. So the first thing that
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ever got paid for that wasn't a family member that gave me money to help solve a problem was
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literally these Burt CDs that would have all the person's favorite MP3 songs on. I built this app
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so they could have it and put it in their cars.
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I did the first one for free to give them a test
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to say, hey, here's how it works, and then they loved it.
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for ongoing CDs if they wanted to build a new playlist,
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And then once they're in, then ask them to pay you for follow on work.
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When you charge for your work, the whole relationship changes.
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I mean, their expectations are higher, which isn't a bad thing.
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You actually get paid so you can invest in yourself and buy tools to make yourself even better.
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The other thing you'll learn real quick is that if people don't pay, they don't pay attention.
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Meaning that if what you do as a service requires them to give you feedback,
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if they're not paying, don't be upset if their emails don't get responded very quickly.
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the more they pay the more they pay attention so you'll be able to do better and better work the
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more you can charge somebody because the client will want the result even more which brings us
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to month four which is to build your marketing pipeline which are the four p's of demand
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generation don't be the world's best kept secret your goal is to get as many people as possible
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to know about you what you do and how you can help them see back in the day it used to be about
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going and speaking at events or getting covered in the local newspaper maybe getting covered by
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the local blog today you want to get your reach out there to the world go on podcasts do collaborations
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with other influencers go and create webinars or joint webinars so that you can take advantage of
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other people's audiences top of funnel is more important than anything else you can't sell to
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an empty room so ask yourself who's got your perfect fit customers when you think about the
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person that you know you create the most value for as fast as possible that is most likely to
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easily pay that is the person that you want to talk to who's got a room full of those people
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that have a need to solve the problem that you can solve for them reach out to them go on their
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podcast ask to contribute a blog post article do a joint webinar if you do those things you will
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build the top of funnel so there's only four p's to create demand in the market the first p is
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publishing think social media content we want to use education-based marketing to inform our
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customers, how they can solve the problems themselves. But if we do a good job showing
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them how to do that, they're going to go, well, this person's clearly an expert. SEO, blog posts,
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those are all in the publishing realm. The second P is paid. Facebook. I love paid because it's fast.
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Paid allows you to literally create a target audience on these platforms to get an ad placed
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in front of them so that people respond that are perfect fit for your product. The third P is
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partners. These are people that have an audience, a built-in room where you can get in front of.
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sometimes they're called value-added resellers.
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The end of the day, they're people that you partner with
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Those four P's are the top funnel of creating awareness
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So they can refer a lot of people to you, which brings us to month five, which is to hire an
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assistant and the ATF framework to make it work. See, back in the day when I started my first
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company, I used to spend all my time doing all the work, even to the point that every Sunday I
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would go into my office just to sort the physical mail that would come into the PO box. And I would
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spend hours just looking at every envelope and letter and sorting them between things that had
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to go to my lawyer, things that have to go to my accountant, things that got to get processed later.
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And I realized that I was spending all this time
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doing something that any other person could do.
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and I just taught her in person how to process my mail.
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And all of a sudden I had hours back on a Sunday.
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So instead of processing mail, I was doing lead generation.
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See, most entrepreneurs end up building a business
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And then you take that newfound time and you fill,
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that's the F, learning new skills, character traits,
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you will end up making more money as fast as possible.
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and see the 47 pages of my SOP standard operating procedure.
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And I will send you my direct link to my Google Doc,
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Which brings us to month six, and we're halfway there,
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See, in the early days of building my first company that finally made money called Spheric Technologies, I realized that I wasn't very good at selling, world-class at writing code, really good at hiring other engineers.
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But when it came to talking to normal people and trying to get them to buy from me, I used to get nervous.
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I would just say yes, and I would get dragged along on this long sales process of people that were never intending to buy in the first place.
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But learning the mastery of sales became my new passion.
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So learning how to code was my first high-income skill,
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but then realizing that if I really wanted to grow,
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I had to get really good at communicating in sales,
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I learned a long time ago that a business is started,
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nothing really happens unless somebody sells something.
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and they just don't even believe it's possible.
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You know, they have no confidence in their ability,
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the opportunity, they're just on this side of the spectrum
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and they're wondering like, can I even do this?
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I've heard people do it and I don't know if I can do it.
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The other side is, you know, people that are overconfident
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where they think that they don't need your help,
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that they, you know, they're listening to what you got to say
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but they're like, yeah, these are all things I know
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The challenge is most salespeople are never taught the questions to reframe the situation
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So for example, if somebody's underconfident, I might say, well, how much revenue would
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you need to be making to feel really proud of yourself?
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And they say, well, honestly, maybe 10K a month.
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I mean, we have 700 clients that do 10K a month learning our strategies.
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And then somebody else that might be really confident, you might ask them, well, how much
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And they're like, oh, I'm making 100,000 a year.
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Depending on the conversation, you have to bring the buyer into the pocket where they're able to make a decision because they're not underconfident.
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They're right in the perfect pocket, which brings us to month seven, which is to hire somebody to help you deliver your product or service to your customer.
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A lot of people get busy doing the thing that they sold.
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So the more they sell, the more they got to do.
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And if they have the opportunity to double, maybe triple the business over the next few months, it means their calendar is going to get double or triple more.
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And then when they have these opportunities, instead of pushing on the gas, they push on the brake because they don't want to end up creating all this emotional shrapnel around them from their team, their family or their friends that never see them anymore.
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So I want to teach you how to hire somebody to offload that work and support you in delivering for the customer.
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So this is the second hire in my framework, the replacement ladder.
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Essentially everything from customer support to customer success, to support tickets, to product support, setting up a customer intake.
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After the sales conversation happens and you get a credit card, the person shows up and you have them deal with every aspect of the customer experience.
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You might still be involved in doing the work, but you have this person help you in delivering that value.
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So you're not the one trying to coordinate in your calendar.
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they are. They're the ones pulling the reports together so that when you have your weekly
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meeting with your customers, you can show them how you're doing. Having somebody else that's
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responsible for everything that's involved in delivering your product or service so that you
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can buy back that time is huge leverage that you can then reinvest in either doing more work to
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make more money or increasing your skills so that you become more valuable. Which brings us to month
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eight, which is to hire somebody to help you with marketing. One time I had this friend named Rachel
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and she would do everything she had to to get customers.
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She'd get busy marketing, posting on social media,
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She'd probably do the work for three or four or five months
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And I go, well, you have to be consistent in marketing.
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then you're always trying to fill up your calendar
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So that's why it's the third line in the replacement ladder
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dedicated to generating leads for your business.
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So you wanna have somebody else that looks at the campaigns,
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to make sure that you're getting new leads every single day.
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Now, you might still be involved in the marketing,
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meaning that they're gonna ask you to post on social media
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that you're sending out to all of your prospects,
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that whole machine continues to happen every day, every week,
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you're consistent in your ability to generate leads.
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oh, another coach, I can't believe you're talking about this.
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The fastest way for you to get to a destination
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I remember, I was 23 years old, two failed companies,
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I read a book and realize I need to hire a coach
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But in the next year, I went from barely making payroll,
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learn the fastest and grow the fastest then get into a coaching program with somebody for your
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specific high income skill that's going to allow you to grow as fast as possible there are people
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out there that are already making a million dollars a month in the thing you're doing
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if you pay to be in their community learn their frameworks or process their strategies
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you'll be able to shortcut your success and literally compress decades into days go search
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on YouTube the specific problems you're having in your business and add your industry as a term to
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that search and those videos are typically from people that have other ways they can help. It
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might be one-on-one private coaching, it might be semi-private with small group coaching, it might be
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a big group coaching, it might even be an online course but at the end of the day having somebody
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who's been there that gives you the blueprints and the steps to get there faster, this is the
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fastest way for you to go from broke to millionaire business owner, which brings us to month 10,
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which is to hire sales. I have had to learn the skill of selling early in my career and move on
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to hiring other salespeople. But the funniest person I ever hired is this guy named Michael.
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When I started coaching other people, I wanted somebody else to help me buy back my time because
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my wife was like, yo, why are you on phone calls all the time? The referrals were crazy. And I was
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like, well, I'm, you know, try to talk to the people. They want to work with me. So I figured
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It's a good opportunity for me to see if there's a fit, but she's like, shouldn't you take your own
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advice? And I'm like, okay. So I went and I hired a guy. His name was Michael and he came in and I
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didn't know how to sell coaching. I just said, Hey man, you should talk to these people. I've
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got a calendar full of people that want to work with me. Just listen to my previous calls and
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sell. But the truth is, is I didn't have high hopes. I mean, this person was selling swords
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on the internet. He would never sold coaching before. And all he did was listen to my calls.
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And within the first day, he had somebody pull out this credit card and buy on the call
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Is this person expecting to come to my house for dinner tonight or that I've got to, you
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How did you get the person to purchase in 30 minutes?
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I mapped out exactly kind of what I was seeing you doing.
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Most people don't understand this as entrepreneurs is that when you actually have somebody else
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selling for you it makes you look better as the owner because the person buying goes oh well if
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they have a system for this you probably have a system for delivering the thing i need which means
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i have a higher likely of a guaranteed outcome then if i'm talking to the ceo of the business
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it's also going to be doing the work like when do they have time to actually take care of the
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projects that they're going to be doing for me this is the fourth hire in the replacement ladder
02:03:08.540
is sales and i want you to train this person to enroll people into your product or service and
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the best way to do that is to record yourself doing the calls, doing the sales, even the emails,
02:03:20.620
the follow-up, like document all of it. And then when you hire the person, give them those leads
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and say, just follow this process. The key is, is they need to own a hundred percent of the initial
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conversations and a hundred percent of the follow-ups. If you have somebody else taking
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the calls, the sales opportunities, the leads, the referrals that come into you, even if it's
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a best friend, it's like, Hey, I've got this opportunity. Why don't you talk to my friend,
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john you say yeah no problem i'll connect him with mike mike does all the initial calls with
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our new clients he's been with me for a while he's incredible he'd love to talk with your friend that
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way you're not the bottleneck and here's a crazy cool part about this if you look at the replacement
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ladder now with only four hires okay somebody to help you on the administrative stuff to the
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you know delivery of the thing you sell to the marketing of what you're selling to the sales
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of what you're selling, you can now go on vacation.
02:04:09.020
You could be sleeping and your business will still make money.
02:04:14.040
because you're still involved in the doing of the work,
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into your product or service while you are away,
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and getting to a million dollars that nobody talks about
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that is very simple if you focus on those four hires.
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Which brings us to month 11, which is the hire leadership.
02:04:41.820
to actually run the operations of the business.
02:04:44.820
You still might be involved in writing the copy
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and continue to run things as fast as possible.
02:04:55.520
So for example, when I started my new media company,
02:05:06.000
and things had to get done, it got routed to Todd.
02:05:08.820
Now, Todd is somebody who's done this for decades
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So it was really easy for me to just give it to them.
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And a lot of you have some of those people in your life,
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then you'll always be a prisoner to your business.
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And if you wanna get to a million as fast as possible,
02:05:29.400
to get projects completed where you're not involved.
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They focus on hiring and training and retaining your top talent so that you get to focus on
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You get to focus on your creative juices and trying to like figure out how do I get in
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How do we make sure that the delivery of what we do is so world class that every one of
02:05:50.300
our customers is referring other people to our business?
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That is how you build the replacement ladder so that you can get to a million in the first
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year, which brings us to month 12, which is to build your personal brand.
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Every one of your dreams, your goals, your vision for your life gets easier, will come to life on the back end of people knowing who you are and how you can help them.
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I've been online creating content for 15 years.
02:06:14.960
I have millions of followers across different platforms, but I started with zero.
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And it doesn't matter where you're at today, you're going to have to start at the exact same place I did.
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What benefit you have is you have folks like me and many others literally unpacking the blueprint for you to follow to build your audience as fast as humanly possible.
02:06:33.360
And the key is, is you want to focus on channels where you would love to express yourself through.
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So if you are more of a video person, create video.
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If you want to teach, maybe it's joint webinars with other people's audiences so you can build your personal brand.
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And then what you do is you capture all of that
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I know for me, when I was building out SaaS Academy,
02:06:59.400
when we started doubling down on our video production.
02:07:16.940
it also helped a lot of people. My philosophy is this, if you do it right, your marketing will help
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more people than your product or service ever will. And your personal brand allows you to
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demonstrate who you are, your personality, as well as your skillset and your expertise.
02:07:30.480
So people can trust you before they ever buy from you. So it even makes the engagement of
02:07:35.480
working with them way easier. See, most people mess this up because they try to do all platforms
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at once. Just pick one. If it's Instagram, if it's LinkedIn, if it's Twitter, just do something
02:07:46.760
and be consistent because consistency compounds and what matters more is that you show up every
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day adding value to the market than anybody else in their world to demonstrate that you're the kind
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of person that can be trusted with their project or to help them solve that problem number five is
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my video on the best businesses you can start in 2024 warren buffett says great businesses have
02:08:09.080
high gross margin so what is gross margin essentially if i sell a product for five dollars
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what it cost me $1 to make, then my gross margin is $4 or 80%. See, the best businesses are ones
02:08:21.820
where you have the highest margin and then also sell for the highest dollar amount. What you don't
02:08:26.960
want to be is like a restaurant where the gross margins are only 45%. You want to be on the upper
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end of 70, 80, even 90% gross margin. And to do this, you need to understand all the industries.
02:08:37.460
And that's why I've spent a lot of time analyzing all the best industries and evaluating all the
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gross margins from lowest to highest that you can start today with very little experience to make
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this year the best year of your life. The first business is a product business. Typically these
02:08:52.860
companies have 50 or 60% gross margin. Now I've been involved in some incredible product companies
02:08:58.040
like Pila that does a biodegradable phone case or Laundry Sauce which is a modern day detergent
02:09:03.560
company or Lomi that does a food composting device and I mean these are literally some of
02:09:10.060
the best companies out there. But I've seen people lose their shirt building product companies
02:09:14.220
because they don't understand how to get distribution, how to get sales, how to build
02:09:18.220
a product efficiently. And essentially they take all their savings, put it into a product, don't
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get any revenue. So if you want to make a product business work great, these are the three things
02:09:28.420
that you need to do right. Number one is you have to pre-sell. See most product companies use
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Kickstarter or Indiegogo or other crowdfunding platforms so that they can validate demand for
02:09:39.240
the product without losing money. Now, I know you've probably been burned by investing some
02:09:43.240
of these crowdfunding campaigns, but the best ones know how to do them, promote them, market them,
02:09:48.860
get the money, and then use that to actually build the product. The second thing is you have to do
02:09:53.480
direct to consumer. And the reason why is you got to skip the retailers, because if you go through
02:09:59.200
a wholesaler to a retailer, by the time you actually get paid and there's the big cash flow
02:10:03.840
issues. It's very hard to make a product business work. That's why Amazon has been a big category
02:10:09.480
for a lot of people that are getting into the product space. And the third thing is you have
02:10:13.260
to invest in the brand. This means making sure that you use premium products, meaning that you
02:10:18.980
care about word of mouth, that you focus on reviews, that you look for opportunities to get
02:10:23.480
press to drive traffic to the business, because that's what's going to create the flywheel to
02:10:28.440
make a product business work. The second business is an agency or sometimes a service business.
02:10:33.660
the margins are between 60 and 70 percent now i've learned over the years that the easiest companies
02:10:40.220
are ones where you take a skill they already have maybe as an employee and then offer that skill to
02:10:45.900
other businesses and get paid to either do for those businesses what you currently do or teach
02:10:50.860
them how to do it for themselves now i've seen a lot of people launch different types of agencies
02:10:55.340
social media marketing agencies etc and the ones that actually scale and make money not just have
02:11:00.620
a low paying full-time sometimes double full-time job they focus on these four things number one is
02:11:07.180
they focus on a strong pain in the market if you think about it you could start an ai company today
02:11:12.940
where you go and you analyze businesses and all the inefficiencies and then introduce them the ai
02:11:18.460
tools to solve those problems and you would make a ton of money because businesses will pay for
02:11:24.300
anybody that can show them how to save them or make them money using ai is a modern day way of
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And you can even negotiate where you get paid more
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then you're always gonna get paid for your hour.
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If you're a programmer, focus on the onboarding experience.
02:11:53.660
If you're a salesperson, focus on the discovery call.
02:12:03.920
by having somebody else support different aspects
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So you start at zero at the beginning of every month.
02:12:26.680
so that you come in, you evaluate it, you support them,
02:12:30.800
and that way you can sign them up for three months,
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The way we do that is by replacing yourself using a system,
02:12:45.520
a checklist for how you deliver on that agency work,
02:12:50.500
to get them to do the work following your process
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online training courses, that kind of business.
02:13:10.600
I've been involved in creating multiple courses
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for some of the largest coaches that you know of online.
02:13:21.500
I mean, I even built a whole technology company
02:13:23.460
clarity.fm because i was too scared to call myself a coach and i put it off i mean this platform we
02:13:29.220
built i did over 1300 clarity calls over a two-year period and never gave myself permission
02:13:34.580
to call myself a coach and i want to tell you it's been one of the most rewarding things
02:13:39.540
deciding to go all in on being a coach and really working with some of the best ceos
02:13:44.580
out there and i want to encourage you to consider it but if you're gonna do it these are the three
02:13:48.500
things that you have to do right or you're gonna eventually end up hating being a coach
02:13:53.060
number one is to learn to sell your expertise i mean this one is a fascinating one because i know
02:13:57.860
people that are world-class in what they do they're literally the fittest person i know or
02:14:02.660
they're incredible networkers or they're so talented in their art but they would never
02:14:08.100
feel comfortable getting paid to teach somebody else to do the thing they've done which is crazy
02:14:12.740
i mean at the end of the day you've become great at the thing you're doing and people have noticed
02:14:17.780
i want to encourage you to allow other people to pay you for that advice because in doing so
02:14:22.980
you're actually helping them oftentimes the transformation happens at the transaction
02:14:27.860
so them investing in themselves by hiring you to teach them how to become world-class at what you
02:14:32.820
do is actually where a lot of the value is created number two is strategy see most people think that
02:14:39.220
i know this information so i can't give it away i'm gonna tell you something controversial i want
02:14:44.500
you to give all of it away okay it's called education based marketing see i believe that
02:14:49.780
information wants to be free. And then you get paid for the support of the implementation. So
02:14:55.360
you want to teach everything you know around the topic for free on social media, at seminars,
02:15:02.080
get on stages, speak, share it all the best stuff. And by doing so, you're going to build an audience
02:15:08.280
of people that want to learn more from you, and they will pay you for the implementation.
02:15:12.920
Number three is build a community. See, I had a coach once and she was incredible. Her name was
02:15:18.020
Marcy. I learned so many things. She had brought a company public and just an incredibly valuable
02:15:23.280
coach. The challenge was, is that I knew she was working with other incredible entrepreneurs and
02:15:28.020
I never got to meet them. Never once did she organize a dinner or a meetup or anything so
02:15:33.420
that I could also get value from meeting the clients she worked with. I'm telling you, if
02:15:37.560
you are a coach, having a community where other people from that same coach can connect and meet
02:15:44.120
each other. That's where a lot of value as a coach will come from to help you with keeping people in
02:15:49.360
your world and also allowing you to send their support as you grow the business. The fourth
02:15:54.260
business is software and the gross margins are between 80 and 90%. If you think about it, having
02:16:00.900
a new customer use your software costs nothing. Literally, it's like server data storage on some
02:16:06.760
computer. Now, I learned this personally back in the 2000s when I started writing code and building
02:16:11.920
software and over the years i just found it so amazing that i can build some software once
02:16:17.440
and the more it grows the less it costs me and as long as the servers don't change that code will
02:16:22.880
run the way it has forever now i have a lot of friends that want to get into software but what
02:16:27.440
they miss is these key points to make the software work because if you don't have people using it and
02:16:33.040
loving it the way you need to then it's not going to create the margins because customers are going
02:16:36.720
to come and they're going to go number one is a sticky product you want to build a tool that
02:16:46.140
Think about things that are painkillers, not vitamins.
02:16:48.580
You wanna create something that's a must have problem solve,
02:16:53.600
Think dating sites where it's just like a one and done
02:16:58.660
Those are not tools that are gonna have daily usage
02:17:06.540
in regards to the product solving those problems
02:17:12.160
See, most people build software for marketing or sales
02:17:15.860
but the problem is the customers are gonna be swapping
02:17:21.540
You wanna be in boring industries like local services,
02:17:29.080
You wanna find customers that aren't always looking
02:17:39.880
also pronounced fatui the key is is you want to look at your software as like the level one of
02:17:45.560
a video game you know when you start playing a video game they don't just like drop you in and
02:17:49.140
say start fighting or start racing like they walk you through the process and they actually teach
02:17:53.600
you you're not playing the game but you're kind of playing the game that is the same concept you
02:17:57.900
want to do with your software so you don't overwhelm people and get them to what's called
02:18:01.900
activation or receiving core value most people try to add too much to the product especially when
02:18:07.860
and people just sign up and it confuses the customer.
02:18:10.980
So you wanna focus on that first time user experience
02:18:14.700
and receive the value promise on your homepage.
02:18:20.020
See, too often people wanna focus on the chocolate,
02:18:25.300
and just trying to get as many people into the thing.
02:18:36.540
because the more you can keep the customers that you've got,
02:18:42.460
which will massively increase your gross margin
02:18:47.240
Those are the best businesses you can start in 2024.
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on how to make a million dollars if you're broke.
02:19:00.060
If I was today going to make my first million bucks,
02:19:03.500
a lot of people would say I'd go build my own social media.
02:19:05.440
wouldn't do that from scratch. If you guys saw the ad revenue on YouTube you'd be like no you
02:19:09.860
wouldn't. Yes I could go start from zero get my first couple thousand dollars and work my way up
02:19:14.820
or I could leverage. So the best thing that you can do is get in proximity. Most people have read
02:19:20.760
like Tim Ferriss's four-hour work week and I feel like this is that book now on steroids. When you
02:19:25.340
went and wrote this what was the one piece of this book that you thought why doesn't anybody do it
02:19:30.580
this way? It's not what everybody would want to learn. It's kind of the chocolate broccoli like
02:19:36.800
because I knew it would get people to start the book.
02:19:38.620
But the broccoli is actually like towards the back part of it
02:19:46.620
don't realize that they are actually a little insane.
02:20:03.360
So, transformational leadership is a simple concept that when you have people that report to you, okay, there's two ways to do it.
02:20:10.460
You can do transactional leadership or transformational.
02:20:12.780
Most people, if you've never been taught any different, it sounds super logical that you do transactional leadership,
02:20:18.420
which is you hire somebody, you tell them what to do, you check that they got done, and you tell them what to do next.
02:20:24.060
Most of us have experienced this in our work capacity.
02:20:26.500
This is how we've always done it, and it sounds super normal.
02:20:29.660
The problem with that is that as you hire more people, and it usually happens around a dozen folks on your team, direct reports, where you'll wake up in the morning with all the motivation to get a bunch of stuff done, and then you check your inbox, and then you realize this person's working on the wrong thing, and then, oh, what about this new person we just hired? Are they being trained?
02:20:47.620
And you literally spend the whole day doing a tell, check, next loop to only find out that after you had dinner and you put the kids to bed, that none of the projects you touched ever got done.
02:20:57.680
So then you work from 7 o'clock to 11 o'clock at night trying to actually get your own work done.
02:21:02.040
And that's where you hit essentially what I call the pain line, where anything more that you want to do in your life becomes really painful.
02:21:09.160
So you might be sitting with an opportunity, sitting there like, I could go do this, but I can't do anything more because I'm stuck in this transactional leadership style.
02:21:15.540
versus transformational, which is number one, it's outcome focus. So I don't tell anybody on
02:21:22.740
my team what to do. I tell them what it looks like when it is done at the highest level.
02:21:27.820
And my team's here. You can talk to them. This is just how I am. And sometimes they'll pull me
02:21:31.580
into that. Like, what do you think I should do? And I literally act like a six-year-old.
02:21:37.260
I go, I don't know. Anne's laughing because I do it a lot. But literally it's like,
02:21:43.260
I was like what do you want to do and they're like but I I'm asking you I know but I don't know
02:21:49.120
of course you know pretend like I don't if I wasn't here what would you do well I'd probably
02:21:55.400
hit the internet or I'd probably call this person I said that sounds like a great idea
02:21:58.820
so I focus on outcome then I go to measure which is what's the what is the numbers that we're
02:22:06.580
going to agree upon means you're making progress so if I said we're going to take that mountain
02:22:10.560
i might say well let's measure the daily elevation gain per per day right and every day if you text
02:22:16.420
me how many feet of elevation you made then as long as you're moving upwards we're good but if
02:22:21.180
all of a sudden you report back a negative i'd be like did you fall off a cliff you know or did you
02:22:26.260
take a wrong turn and then they'd be like yeah i got lost it's like cool what could you do not to
02:22:31.320
be lost i don't know you tell me i don't know what you know i mean get it outcome so we're going to
02:22:36.920
the mountaintop that's the outcome measure every day and they might come back with ideas like I
02:22:42.040
should probably get a map that sounds like a great idea where could you get a map I don't know map
02:22:45.720
store maybe somebody else has you know been up this mountain okay good good go find that out
02:22:49.960
and then what I do the third part is coach right and coach is what's funny for a lot of us to have
02:22:55.720
communities like we do we actually do this naturally or maybe you've been a coach like a
02:22:59.780
real like you know athletic coach you use those same principles so I don't tell people what to do
02:23:10.720
So if I see somebody do something they shouldn't have done,
02:23:20.360
ooh, last Tuesday I saw you post this in Slack.
02:23:25.200
did you feel that was clear or a little unclear?
02:23:32.660
people going left, right, and all over the place.
02:23:36.340
Let me tell you about this principle, about clear communication.
02:23:39.740
That's probably my wife calling me back because I did this to her earlier.
1.00
02:23:50.360
I know, but I did it to her earlier, and she kept hanging out like I'm doing,
0.97
02:23:59.220
And she was probably recording a podcast, and she was loving me at the time.
02:24:19.200
Next thing, I turned around, and it was a $26,000 mistake.
02:24:22.200
So I've learned in the future, sometimes it's better to slow down and measure twice, cut once.
02:24:27.300
See, and then at the end, this is the third part of the coaching, is you ask them,
02:24:30.180
Based on the story I just shared with you, what did you take away from that?
02:24:36.580
I created a methodology for evolving my people.
02:24:40.540
And my whole philosophy and big thing in the book, and that's why it's a productivity book, but it's also a leadership book, is you build the people, the people build the business.
02:24:50.740
Because I think everybody thinks they're clear, and then everyone else does not.
02:25:11.300
See, most people, we never taught how to do this.
02:25:15.980
to manage renovating it, what does that look like?
02:25:22.040
See, I'm not talking about the colors of the wall.
02:25:26.640
I will drive into this yard and I will open the door and all my stuff's going to be here and I'm
02:25:32.580
moving into this house with my family and we're going to have a party the day after and everything's
02:25:36.580
going to be catered and like I'm describing the outcome and the experience and I think that most
02:25:41.460
people never ask themselves like what is the definition of done I'm a software guy so it
02:25:45.320
actually comes from agile programming it's a software concept and I think every time I'm
02:25:51.980
trying to ask somebody to support me in anything I always go to definition of done which is the
02:25:55.500
outcome concept, right? But I think DOD is kind of what I would tell people to think about.
02:26:00.560
I really, really like it. We use the Braun method. So basically just who, what, when,
02:26:04.320
where, how, and why, and we leave the how to them. And I think a lot of the reason that that helps
02:26:08.580
is, you know, the other day we were talking about it and we're like, well, if you don't know who
02:26:12.880
this is for, then a financial projections sheet that is for you or I who run a bunch of holding
02:26:19.140
companies is going to look a lot different than financial projection that, you know, my admin
02:26:24.240
needs to see a budget for an event those are two very different things and so um i think i stole
02:26:31.180
it from journalism because the brawn method is what you use in journalism you can't really write
02:26:34.640
a story unless you have who what how when where and why and it's really the same thing when you
02:26:38.140
define communication and scope projects so i really i liked that from your book um the other
02:26:42.600
thing that i really liked from your book is you talk about uh focus versus adhd a little bit in
02:26:48.880
your content and in your book can you talk a little bit about like do we really have this
02:26:53.600
adhd epidemic or is a lot of this just our focus you're gonna get me in trouble
02:26:59.000
i i so a few things i think i i have a problem with labels of anybody for anything i think we're
02:27:07.780
all beautiful expressions of our unique experienced souls all that stuff i have i'm zero label for
02:27:13.580
if if doctors need it to like describe a person to each other then keep it for yourselves like
02:27:20.420
like anytime anybody's tried to label me or my kids or my friends anyway I'm like hey it's a
02:27:27.660
weird thing because there's nothing wrong with you right you have a default so like a lot of people
02:27:31.500
that have ADD or ADHD I was diagnosed when I was 11 diagnosed right put on Ritalin told I was special
02:27:38.000
and broken all this turns out they just didn't know where to point me right if this was 300 years
02:27:44.900
ago we'd call me an evolutionary hunter that's what i am like i'm the i if this was 300 years
02:27:52.100
ago you'd want one of me in your tribe because i'm the guy that's going to go out in the woods
02:27:56.400
and i'm going to bring back the food and then you guys can all eat see we went to this like
02:28:00.280
agricultural farming society where now we all have to sit in these chairs and learn and study
02:28:05.380
and show up and everybody do the same thing in the right order or you or you're an issue so anyways
02:28:11.940
um i think it regards is this in regards to the chaos side of things of just like how you show up
02:28:17.760
at your work so what happens is because a lot of us i can only speak from my experience
02:28:22.540
because i grew up in like chaos and adhd and just like that's where i thrive unfortunately when
02:28:30.400
things go good in your business if you have this problem you will throw hand grenades and create
02:28:36.380
problems in your business when things are actually starting you're creating durable revenue and it's
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predictable and it's like okay yay you'll be like we're changing the website adding a new product
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i just hired i bought a new company there's 14 other people there they're gonna and the team's
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like what are you doing why because that chaos is actually incredibly normal for us and what
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we've learned to do and it's our superpower is deal with a large amounts of uncertainty and
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still move forward so when things are certain it feels awkward and we all have an emotional home
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that we want to get back to even if it doesn't look positive it's still familiar so for me i
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always think about like is this strategically the right decision or am i throwing a massive
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hand grenade in my business to give me ground cover to then go have a problem to solve because
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that feels good. I'm sure nobody in here can relate to any of this. One thing that I like
02:29:32.740
about you two, we talk a lot about power of place and how, you know, it really can be beneficial or
02:29:38.340
can be detrimental what you surround your work environment with. You're very particular about
02:29:42.660
your work environment. Very intentional. Can you talk a little bit about what's on the walls,
02:29:46.200
how you structure things and why? And I like also how you do it in a way that's, it's not that it's
02:29:50.880
expensive or fancy, although you can afford that. It's just very intentional. Yeah, I think it's
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evolved and I continue to evolve it. Like we just got a new studio, started a company called Martel
02:30:02.440
Media, very inspired by Cody and our friends. Like at the end of the day, it occurred to me
02:30:07.820
that everything that I want to achieve in life accelerates on the other side of reach and
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reputation. So we got this new studio space and I started building a team. And I would say,
02:30:18.100
because that's probably the most recent company that I've kind of like like kind of built out
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first off it's the people like I have a zero space for anybody that I don't vibe with it doesn't mean
02:30:31.120
that we have to share the same preferences and watch the same shows or any of that or even look
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the same none of that if you don't hold a high standard if you don't have a desire to create
02:30:40.020
something magical if you don't want to go on a journey of building something that may have never
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been built before. This is not the room for you. And I'm not upset about it. I get mad at myself
02:30:48.520
when they accidentally get in. We had one recently. This is so funny. I feel bad for Ann. It was Ann's
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assistant. And she resigned. And we're like, whoa, that's weird. Because if you read my book,
02:30:58.180
six chapter, Test First Hiring Method, very structured. I mean, to get on the team is a
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gauntlet. And she resigned. And I was like, that's weird. So I reached out to her and I did a clearing
02:31:06.940
conversation with her. And she goes, I'll be honest with you, Dan. She was from South Africa.
02:31:12.600
she goes I've never been on a team where somebody swore oh and I'm like oh how
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did this how did this happen like where did we mess up when we were recruiting
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where you were not aware I thought you didn't would you watch my content like
02:31:31.860
did you you think of googling me or something I think that to the degree
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that you can be just really honest with yourself and this is the thing it comes
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down to you giving yourself permission to deciding what is a 10 out of 10 and not coming
02:31:46.300
down to a six or a seven. Cause that's what happens. You know, if I asked you like, what
02:31:50.400
would it look like to have, to enjoy going to work, to own a business, to really appreciate
02:31:54.960
it? You would say, well, I want to surround myself with these kinds of people. So it's
02:31:57.940
always people first. So I start with the people that's first and foremost. Then I look at like
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the, the, the flow in the structure. So I don't believe we manage time. I believe we
02:32:06.900
manage energy that's a big concept in my book okay because I don't know about you but when I
02:32:11.800
went to math class it felt like three hours when I went to art class it felt like seven minutes
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see what I'm saying so we manage the energy that we experience in that space that time
02:32:22.740
so everything I do and it's very intentional in regards to just even transition points
02:32:27.540
when I travel here I've got the team and it's just like we're very intentional about like
02:32:31.340
what's Dan's energy level going to be at different parts of the day so some people are like how do
02:32:36.500
you do so much and keep the energy going it's like oh well i i do this kind of work in the morning
02:32:41.020
this kind of work after lunch this kind of work towards the end of the day and i and i save these
02:32:44.820
things for these and they're like oh oh that makes sense and i'm like yeah even the space of like
02:32:50.820
how the studio is designed and you come in and there's like these literally where we put we have
02:32:56.140
a gym in the studio we have like a play area has anybody played the new spider-man on a ps5
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it is like it's like playing a movie you're like playing this thing so anyways even the where we
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put that and then had the studio set up in my in my office it's just you know the words we put on
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the wall everything is you know it says prioritize the pump it says sweat every day so like i'm very
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intentional about the words like if you talk with me and i hear you say a word that is disempowering
02:33:32.680
i will invite you to consider a different one right where would that conversation go
02:33:36.720
oh you like let's talk about let's say like i go well it's just like we didn't have enough time to
02:33:42.800
do it the way that i wanted to do it really cody you decided not to make enough time maybe there
02:33:50.040
we go yeah so playful fun um sam will say that that would be cool when that happens it will be
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cool if there's no yeah so it's just words mean things to you words mean things matter set intention
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at the end of the day we don't get what we want we get what we expect think about that you will
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never get a penny more than you expect to earn you think you deserve never i don't care fucking
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and BHAGs and big hair, like, man, $10 million.
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Because the problem is you'll just act differently.
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Tomorrow morning, you go into your bank accounts,
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So, like, you know, Chase or whatever it is in the U.S.
02:34:41.560
Do you, the energy you bring to the rest of your day, yes?
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why don't you act like that today think about that why don't you act like that today when you
02:34:53.360
stand on the scale and you look down and it's like no that's cool no no are you really in the
02:34:57.940
best like are you where you want to be what would that number should be act as if you put on 20
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pounds act as if the bank account dropped 50 because like i think that that expectation is
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actually what drives the right behavior because too often that identity of what we think we're
02:35:14.660
worth is actually the issue. It's really good. So you run Ironmans and marathons and I think you
02:35:23.340
were skiing this weekend with a bunch of people. Yeah, hello skiing. Yeah, exactly. So obviously
02:35:29.800
you're playing a lot while you're working too. Yeah. Talk about how you started to prioritize
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correctly because for a lot of people who are new at this what i hear most often is i don't have time
02:35:43.020
for x i feel overwhelmed by why yeah i never hear those words from you why and how do you
02:35:50.080
prioritize properly yeah i mean it's easy to look at my life and look at cody and i and go yeah but
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you guys are rich like i'm not an idiot i i was at one point in a room just like this listening
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to two rich people on stage talk about their fucking you're like shut up like i'm very
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self-aware. But I think that, you know, there's two parts to your question. The one is when I do
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this, I feel overwhelmed. I totally agree. And it's your experience. The cool part is you decide.
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So guess what? You can be overwhelmed and you may be overwhelmed. And I don't discredit it. I'm not
02:36:28.060
going to take away that that's exactly how you feel. But if you actually stayed in that feeling
02:36:32.920
and you were willing to explore it a little bit,
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Call it the universal mind, God, consciousness.
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it's just there but you do control your second thought and the second thought in that space
02:37:07.780
between the first one that is a gift and the second one how you respond that's the feeling
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so if you're overwhelmed yes you are do you have to be no you don't and if you just even think of
02:37:17.540
the frame alex hermosi taught me this this like thousand expert frame so like whatever's
02:37:22.340
overwhelming you imagine you did this thing a thousand times honestly by the hundredth time
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500th time the thousandth it's just you just do it don't even think about it so when people see
02:37:32.660
my life today and they go how do you do all that i go oh but this is capacity expanded at the
02:37:38.240
extremities and the first time i might have felt overwhelmed but then i got easier and easier and
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now it's just i don't even think about it so that's on the feeling side in regards to the time
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side what i do and i teach in the book preloaded year the perfect week these two frameworks is
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I'm very intentional about reflecting so every like quarter and then you know every year I look
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back at what I did because everything's in my calendar right and it's kind of color-coded but
02:38:06.060
not really but we can just evaluate it and I just ask myself simple questions like was that a
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was that the right use of my my quarter right use of my year when I look at the stuff I said yes to
02:38:16.320
was that like Charleston for me that was a hell yeah that was a great time so yes maybe I do that
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again? Or the ski trip? Do I want to do that again? And then when I look at it and I look at
02:38:27.280
it over a year, I have this one page template because, and my wife and I do this, we each
02:38:32.380
individually look at like what work wise and then our family. And we just go like, was that too much
02:38:36.600
or too little? Okay. I'll give you a simple example. I used to go on vacation before my events.
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Now, as I say this out loud, all of you probably go, that's dumb. Why, why would you go on vacation
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I don't know if you guys have ever run an event.
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The seven days prior, there's zero on your brain
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and they'd be talking to me, and it's like, I'm not there.
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I said, oh, okay, instead of doing the vacation here,
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and then I go on vacation, everybody's cup's full
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And then also just evaluating the different aspects
02:39:35.780
of my life that I feel I need to feel like fulfilled.
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I don't even believe in the word happiness per se.
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I think it's a moment and it fleets, but fulfilled.
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where I've had like all aspects of like my relationship and my, my friendships and like
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the, the ski trip you mentioned, I've been doing that for 10 years and it is three days. It's a
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magical three days, 48 of like some of my favorite entrepreneurial friends in the back country
02:39:58.900
going down steep and deep powder. We'll probably do it until, till we don't, we're just, it's just
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the best thing. So like, again, every year we just, we're very intentional. So the way I think about
02:40:10.060
it is anytime I have a conversation with somebody, I'm trying to do two things. One, I'm genuinely
02:40:15.220
curious about their situation. See, some people that are nervous about talking to other people,
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the problem is, is they think they got to talk. Shut the f*** out. Don't say anything. It's so
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funny. They're like so nervous that they say nothing. When I'm like, you don't have to talk,
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you just have to ask a question. They're like, this literally, this guy came to my house one
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day and he was nervous. And I was like, dude, I can feel your, he's like, well, I've been following
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you for five years and I don't know what to say. I go, you don't have to say anything. Just ask me
02:40:42.700
a question. He's like, what? Anything. So here's the deal. When you meet somebody new, and you can
02:40:49.540
just write them down, have some canned questions. Like, I'm just curious, how did you get into that
02:40:53.040
business? How long have you been doing it? What do you like best? Cody, what do you like best
02:40:56.240
about running this, this incredible empire building? And let them talk. And then, so what happens is
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I look for two things. I look for one, something that they're doing that could be helpful to me
02:41:08.100
and two something that they're they're they're gonna do or struggling with that is actually my
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genius so and and i didn't even know i was doing this until somebody asked me about three weeks
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ago this exact same question and i was like oh actually i'd probably do this so here's what i
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do i ask the questions but i'm generally curious like i do i do love people so i'm like how do
02:41:28.980
you do this you know well how did you solve that problem oh we're doing this like the media stuff
02:41:33.160
to YouTube, like, do you guys monetize that? Did it? Oh, geez, we don't do that. Okay, so there's
02:41:38.300
my thing. How do you guys monetize? I need to know that. Oh, we got to turn that thing on. I don't
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know how to do that. Okay, so I got the thing I need. Then I try to figure out, okay, what are
02:41:46.060
they building into the future? See, most people discount their value. They literally go, why would
02:41:52.940
this person want to talk to me? I have nothing to add to their life. That is the silliest thing ever.
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Your thing could be that you listen with a kind heart.
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that is actually valuable, and you can offer that.
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like, you know, you're good at marketing or whatever,
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And they're like, well, we're thinking of starting Facebook ads.
02:42:34.140
The thing you're doing with your sales motion there,
02:42:36.340
we've been thinking of doing, we haven't done it.
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And you know, like the Facebook ads or the SaaS stuff,
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But if you want, let's schedule a 30 minute call.
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And on that call, we can do the first 15 minutes
02:42:56.880
show them, like literally show them, here's our P&L, here's our dashboard, here's my ad sets,
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here's my thing, like whatever you can help them, show them, here's why. Because if you do that for
02:43:08.540
them, guess what happens when it's now your turn to receive the information from them? They're
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going to be like, well, let me just show you our CRM. It's so funny when people are like, I could
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help you. And then I get on call and they're like, what are you dealing with? And I tell them, they're
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like, oh, you could do this, this and this. I go, no, what are you doing? Show me. Or they ask for
02:43:26.360
advice from a mentor and then they get on a call with the mentor and they don't even tell them
02:43:31.100
what their business is doing, how much profit they have, their team size. I literally tell friends
02:43:35.460
of mine that want a mentor, when they get on that call, you have to disclose everything because in
02:43:40.660
that moment, you separated yourself from everybody else because you're honest and truthful and they
02:43:44.700
can feel that, that I'm just here to like try to win and it doesn't matter. I'm not ashamed of where
02:43:50.380
I'm at. I'm starting here, but I have an aspiration to go more. And those 30-minute phone calls, I
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probably, Ann knows, we'd probably do two or three a week. And that's just my way as I meet people
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that I want to be helpful to and learn from that it's really cool. They're short meetings, super
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valuable, and then we can figure out what's next. It's huge. The other thing that I've found too on
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the same vein is I really think that there's some sort of magical, there's some sort of magical
02:44:15.320
action you can take when you meet somebody who you might have a slight different power differential
02:44:19.340
with. So let's say, for instance, I met one of the presidential candidates, Vivek Ramaswamy.
02:44:26.840
And he's a presidential candidate. Plus, I think he's worth a couple billion bucks. I'm neither of
02:44:31.400
those things yet. And so when I met him, what's the normal thing that you do? You kind of ask
02:44:36.360
them questions. You ask if they're curious. You pretend to be curious or you are curious with the
02:44:40.740
person. And then you maybe say, well, if I can ever help you, I'd love to. That's actually really
02:44:45.920
annoying to somebody who's really successful because I don't know it's not my homework to
02:44:49.500
help you help me in some way annoying what's not annoying is you doing a little bit of research
02:44:55.280
which we did in the moment we didn't even know the guy was going to be there and realized oh
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this guy's social media is really terrible and because his social media is really terrible I
02:45:03.460
bet in 30 seconds we could tell him a few things to change in fact we'll tell his number two because
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he doesn't even have time to listen to that and because we told his number two that we said just
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give me your give me your email or your assistant's email so you play it down right because they might
02:45:14.900
not want to give me their contact information. Give me your assistant's email. I'm going to send
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you a social media breakdown of what we would do for years. And oh, by the way, I don't even sell
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this. This isn't what I do for a living. I just think you're amazing. I want to see you be
02:45:25.720
successful. This is some small way I could potentially help. And if it's not, just throw
02:45:28.840
it in the trash. And of course, we sent that out. We did this breakdown, sent it to them. And then
02:45:34.060
we became consultants on their social media strategy. Again, not paid. But now if I want
02:45:38.620
to call Vivek, I can. If I want to make a phone call, I can. And so I think anytime there might
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be some sort of power differential between you and somebody else that you want something from
02:45:48.180
in the future, the best way to fill that gap is meet an unexpected need with your zone of genius.
02:45:54.180
And you have it in some way, shape, or form, but so few people will actually deliver you something
02:45:59.300
that you would find valuable. And that is not that hard to do. In fact, you could probably pay
02:46:04.080
somebody on Upwork to do a social media strategy for somebody that you met that's better than what
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they're doing. And so it always surprises me. If you want to buy back your time, the best way to
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back to your time sometimes is to give your time up front to the right people doing the right things
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and so i really like how you do that okay i want to open it up um but before that is there anything
02:46:21.720
else you want to end with i want to ask i want to ask you a question oh so cody here is my question
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you're starting from scratch at zero how do you make your first million
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here's the problem you have a recency bias and a confirmation bias right so what i did
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it did in the past. Would I do it again? If I was today going to make my first million bucks
02:46:46.680
and let's remove the relationships and the social and all the distribution. Yeah. I would go and
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become really valuable to the most valuable person I could find. I wouldn't, a lot of people would
02:46:59.740
say I'd go build my own social media. I wouldn't do that from scratch. Actually, I would go and
02:47:03.600
immediately probably try to glom on to somebody I could find in any sort of industry. And I would
02:47:08.500
deliver that thing I just told you. I'd deliver the most valuable thing that I, because I have
02:47:12.320
inherent knowledge, know. And I'd deliver that to probably 10 people because nine of them are
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going to say no. And one of them is going to think that that's really useful. And I'm probably not
02:47:21.280
going to ask for much money. So I'm probably going to like bartend, do something on the side and say
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like, pay me whatever you think this is worth. Or let me take a cut of whatever you think this is
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worth. And then I would go and work for somebody else who already has X. Because there's a weird
02:47:33.780
thing about money which is when somebody has money already and you can accelerate their money
02:47:38.660
you can make money faster if i had to go start from zero dollars again yes i could go start from
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zero get my first couple thousand dollars and work my way up or i could leverage dan's money
02:47:48.920
much more intelligently and as long as i took zero dollars from him and said i only want upside
02:47:54.280
only pay me if this wins and succeeds and it's just net you know to you and then some net to me
02:48:00.780
on top um that's what i would do and i also think it's ridiculous somebody else asked me this
02:48:05.860
question the other day and their answer was like i would go become a youtube star like
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you know i don't know and if you guys saw the ad revenue on youtube you'd be like no you wouldn't
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and so and also everything's really expensive these cameras are like 70 80 000 so the best
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thing that you can do is get in proximity to people who already have power and figure out
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a way to become more valuable to them than anybody else it is such a great answer you have no idea
02:48:31.720
how freaking awesome that answer is because and and honestly i've asked that question a lot of
02:48:35.740
people and nobody's given me that answer interesting yeah but in hindsight when i think about it all
02:48:40.180
the people in my life that are my business partners is because they did what cody just said
02:48:43.880
when you can come to somebody and say hey i'm gonna take nothing i'll do all this work i'm
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gonna bet on me and i just i'll take 10 of the upside then they have unlimited leverage because
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I have whatever amount of capital. It's like, how many times would, you know, you give me a dollar
02:49:00.540
or like, you know, you trade a dollar for 10. It's like, how many times you want to do that trade? So
02:49:05.580
that's actually a brilliant idea. Yeah, it's true. I mean, Lloyd basically was hugely valuable in our
02:49:10.940
membership and did it for nothing and was incredible at it for like three years, basically.
02:49:17.400
And then finally, when we had this new position, I was like, wait a second, I feel like Lloyd is
02:49:20.880
the perfect guy for this position and we want to do some deals together. And so that's happened
02:49:37.680
you know, derive some value from that conversation.
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and taking time i'm curious because i know both of you probably get these pick my brain requests
02:49:59.900
all the time and asking to see how your business runs so how do you how do you respond to those in
02:50:07.280
a way that's still warm-hearted and or you know some of these people potentially could be clients
02:50:12.700
so what's the pivot there yeah i mean there's there's a lot of filters let me i'll give you
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some tactical stuff so first off i love everybody and if i had all the time and unlimited resources
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is I would spend one-on-one time with each and every one of you.
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And any time I say yes to something, this is a big idea.
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you're saying yes to what you've already decided you want to go achieve.
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So understand, a no is a yes, and a yes is a no.
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because I do want to make myself available for anybody,
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and I'm one of the few people that probably do this, kind of nutty,
02:50:52.060
anybody can fly to where I live and on Tuesday morning there is a hike it's called the founder's
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hike it's at 6 30 in the morning and you're invited and people fly in from all over the
02:51:03.820
freaking world there's a guy from New Zealand two guys from New Zealand Dubai we almost killed a guy
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from Louisiana it's a it's a real hike all right people I live in Canada like this guy we had to
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put his Apple watch on his heart rate because I was like if it stays above 165 for too long
02:51:24.420
I'm gonna stop the hike and you'll wait for us on the way down it's not that crazy like it's
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a 45 minute hike but in that time there's a bunch of us that do it and and I made that and I'll tell
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you why I do that is I had a mentor once and I reached out to him and I mean cold email but you
02:51:41.800
know local person knew my name I had a small business and I asked him for time and he said
02:51:46.260
meet me at in canada you guys know tim hortons anybody canadian all right cool he said meet me
02:51:51.320
at tim hortons right it's like the dunkin donuts of canada and uh but it was 7 a.m on sunday morning
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and i was like why does this guy want to meet at 7 a.m back then i was 23 24 right 7 a.m was early
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i was like this is weird so anyways i went there suit and tie all dressed for success you know and
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he shows up in like normal t-shirt and stuff and but this guy was the owner of the number one
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software company in our town and at the end of it i said uh steve his name is steve palmer i said
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steve i'm just curious man why did you want to meet at 7 a.m at tim hortons on a sunday morning
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don't you have like your family and stuff you go it's a filter and if you would have barked at that
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it would have been a no and the fact that you showed up dressed like that by the way crazy
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I was like okay well I don't know you know it shows me you're serious so that's how I do it
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so for 99% of the people that I do not know that cold email that want to pick my brain buy me coffee
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buy me meal I don't need coffee or meals you can come to the founder site and literally Ann has an
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auto reply for everybody else the way I decide is a here's where I want to go because again every
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yes to somebody else is no to my kids if you guys put that in the context your family members or
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your health then you would be a lot more um discriminant with your time see i just think
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a lot of people step one of bond back your time is value your time some of you do not value your
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time and it's probably because of a self-worth thing so i definitely um i will do 15 minute
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meetings if it's one-on-one i like doing uh dinners so i like to i mean we did a dinner with
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eight people. And the cool part about that is, is oftentimes, you know, I can help them, but really
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maybe they need to meet somebody else. There's eight people there. I can deepen relationship
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with other folks. So it's a really high leverage activity. So I do those all the time. I've got
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one tonight. I've done one almost every night I've been here. And then I'm just really good at saying
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no. I'm okay with saying no. And sometimes you'll have, you know, a false positive or whatever's
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called false negative, where you said no to somebody you shouldn't have, and that's a feedback
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loop and that's okay and I live in abundance and if that hurts their feelings that's on them it's
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not on me it's really good yeah the only thing I'd add to you know what do you do when somebody's
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trying to steal your time and you know the the numerous pick your brain requests um I use a
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filter for even responding to emails um because it's just the amount of stuff that comes at you
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and I always ask them to do they're asking me for work I ask them for work first so good so
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immediate response would be something like hey uh you know what I think is helpful to most
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everybody, because all the questions are the same thing. How do you buy a business? How do you run
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a business like you do? How do you become successful? Whatever the case may be. And I
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always give them a book. So I just say and think, hey, this is a link to a book that I think is
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really useful to you. Go ahead and read this. And if you have any questions afterwards, let me know.
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Do you know how many people follow up with me on that? Negative 12. And so the, you know,
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I think if people want you to do the work for them, kind of immediate red flag. And this is
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like normalized, but you could say, you know, it'd be a perfect example. You'd go, hey, you want to
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learn about how to buy businesses, go read these five articles on Contrarian Thinking's free
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business buying newsletter. Come back to me with your specific questions. Then you know they're a
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player. They're willing to do some of the work first. And if you feel weird deferring them to
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something like that, I always go, oh man, I hate giving any version of a shortened,
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non-contextualized response. There's nothing worse than offhand advice that somebody gives
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you without really understanding your situation. So before I give you any advice, I want you to
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go do this thing over here because then we at least have context we have set definitional
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understanding and so um that's one thing that's been helpful to me and then uh i set a lot of
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rules around how people can get to me and so you used something before that was like what i would
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term like strategically uh incompetent oh yeah strategically you know like that's good you know
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like oh i don't know how would i do that i don't know how would you do that which is i need to do
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that more you're really good at that yeah really good at playing stupid i should i gotta save your
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complex like you wouldn't believe but the the the second thing that i've found is just being
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strategically um what do we say we say we're easy to find hard to reach i'm easy to find i'm all over
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the internet anybody can find me i'm impossible to reach i never respond to text messages i barely
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do emails i have rules around voice notes i don't fucking do them no i'm like i do not want to have
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whisper in my ear like it's so creepy a stranger right hey i'm just uh i saw your video like no
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no yeah no it's out i want that apple you are creepy what about when this person could be a
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potential client maybe they don't understand ask them what they're looking for i mean to cody's
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point you know like like i just i'm always like my response is always positive exciting again i
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don't do it and does it or team does it but it's like oh thanks for reaching out super appreciate
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I would love to meet up, but before I do that, could you give me a bit more context?
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I actually might be the wrong person to chat with.
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So that just told you, they probably sent that email to 14 people, right?
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And they were just looking for anybody to go like, yeah, let's meet coffee because they
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If they're going to be a client, you have a business model issue.
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You have a business that is a service, not a productized service that you can standardize, that people actually can fall into.
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You have both of our least favorite types of businesses.
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He's the SaaS king because he wants to build, wants, sell continuously.
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And I bet his advice to you would be something like create a productized service that allows somebody to buy some component as opposed to RFP for their time, which is what you're doing when they're like, can we talk first?
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And that's not the type of business model you actually want to run long term.
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You're pretty big on productized models, services.
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we have this huge opportunity to do an RFP for them.
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You either press the button and buy, or you don't.
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enables you to buy back your time yeah i mean john maxwell wrote a great book sometimes you win
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sometimes you learn and that's just the way i think about it so i just start with the premise
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anytime i start any company this might be a little weird for you guys i just assume i'm wrong
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what a crazy frame if i start a new business the first thing i believe is i am wrong now i'm on a
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journey to validate that i'm right so my conversations my approach are completely
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different so when I fail I actually get excited because I'm like that doesn't work let's not do
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that again perfect how fast can I move through an experiment to get to a place where I learn
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and that I would say that's actually like when we think of like poor mindset rich mindset
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that's the difference between the people that are wealthy is that they don't call it failure
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like I can't remember last time I was like I failed nope I learned I got to a place of experience
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The only thing that I might add there is the other thing that I've noticed really successful people don't do is there's not a lot of blame.
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Like I've noticed on my team sometimes somebody will go, oh, that's my fault because I did X or Y or Z or like I should take the blame for that.
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I'm like, why would we ever use that word blame?
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Like the only reason that you should blame yourself for something or you should accept quote unquote fault is if you did something on purpose repetitively.
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And I think that lines up directly with failure.
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And if you start blaming yourself for failures,
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I'm just going to tell you what I think wealthy is.
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I'll just, like, leave that little nugget for you to think about what I just said.
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Can you elaborate a little bit on the manage energy, not time?
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Because some of the books that I read, usually they say eat the frog first.
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Like, you know, you start with the most complex task when you have the energy
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and then go down to a smaller task that you can digest later.
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Depending on how big my life is growing this year,
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once a year, twice a year. But part of that is evaluating what things in my calendar give me
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energy versus take my energy. Does that make sense? So what's funny though is one of the big
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ideas that people have to remind themselves is something can start off as a bright green,
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I love this, and immediately turn into a yellow and then a red, but you forget to reassess. So
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for example, I was a board member in a company and at first it was awesome. And then it was like,
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oh, this is boring. Well, I don't want to be, but I forgot to renegotiate with the people to resign
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from the board to create the space. And it sounds so subtle because it's like, it's only a 90 minute
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call, maybe once every six weeks. It's still 90 minutes. I want my 90 minutes back, right? Or the
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other day I was doing, I do one-on-ones with my direct reports. I don't have a lot, but I still
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have them. And I noticed they were 60 minutes in the calendar because they've always been 60 minutes
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So like my whole thing is, yes, start the morning.
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is work on the thing that needs to get done, the frog.
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For sure, because that's where your mind's the freshest,
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i knew as soon as i said that someone's gonna ask me but it's i have them i know okay please
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if you don't mind reading my okay yeah that that part that part always stresses me out too
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there's five s's the staller yes okay that yeah do you want to talk about each one i'll do it real
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quick the staller is the person that takes more time to make a decision to make the decision and
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the potential downside which is probably not going to be there and they just delay it just make a
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decision. That is what Cody does beautifully. I do the top people. They, what information do I
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need? They know I'm going to make an imperfect, I have imperfect data to make a decision. It's not
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about making the right decisions, but making a decision and making it right. So don't be a
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staller. Love it. The speed demon. Speed demon is the opposite. It's a person that's moving fast
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and like, I got to go and watch this movie and then all of a sudden they're cleaning up because
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of the freaking wake of stupid hiring their cousins because they had a pulse like just dumb
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moving too fast done it literally sorry um the the other part that i thought was really good
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about the speed demon that you talk about is how to offset your speed demon nature by um i forget
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what you used in the book but but basically what i took away from it is if i know i'm a speed demon
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which i am that means that i need callers i basically need a caller around me so if i know
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I want to hire fast. That means I need a great recruiter because I'm going to move and they have
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the experience to move it fast. Yeah. Okay. The supervisor. Yeah. You over manage people. You're
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a micromanager. This is funny. You hire people and then tell them what to do. Yep. Anybody
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hire people and have them tell you what to do. Really actually hard to do. Super hard. Really
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hard to do. The saver. Yeah. You literally walk over dollars to save pennies. It's hilarious.
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He had, I think it was like a 3 million a year mastermind
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and he's like, how did you create all the systems?
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but you're about to shut down a 3 million mastermind.
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and if it's a bad year, they drink to numb it, right?
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And it's not even about alcohol or drugs or video games.
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So somebody asked me one time, they're like, how do I know what I need to stop doing?
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Because it's not what I'm doing that I'm winning.
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That's the biggest idea we should all consider.
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When people stop me and they see me drive my fancy car and they go, what do you do?
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right I don't go to the buffet and try to get my money's worth I don't go gambling I don't
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fucking vape I don't do a ton of stuff that I know you do so figure that out one other thing
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that you both you and maybe the most successful people that I know overall it's the name of your
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book but literally where to buy back your time so for instance every time I go and meet with
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one of my mentors Bill Perkins he says to me uh he asked me if I if I put the my own gas in my
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own car which originally I thought god that's so pretentious I can't even fill up my own car like
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what kind of asshole doesn't do that and then he explained to me uh what my time is worth in order
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for me to go fill up my own car every single time and so each time he'll come up with something new
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he'll be like did you schedule your own doctor's appointments have you been doing landscaping and
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the mission is basically just you are basically a representation of the tasks you do every single
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day and so if the tasks you ever do every single day are low level what are you you're actually
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kind of low level um and you you can't level up unless you change your tasks what odd things do
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you do like the weirder the better to buy back your time buy back i'll give you my new test this
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is like because i have a lot of friends like i have an assistant i'm like
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my ann and i've been playing this game of like she's going to do a video of all the assistance
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evaluation because she deals with them all and some of them are like they're like do they really
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do they talk to each other it's like because she's trying to coordinate stuff and some people
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are dialed in some people are not so uh what are the weird things that i do to buy back my time
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here's one this is the test is do you pack your own bags for your travel i know that that'll
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probably be that'll be like the the final boss in the levels right like i know could you imagine
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how crazy that would be to just pick up a bag and go straight to the airport and trust that your
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passport's there if you're going international that everything you need and all your pills and
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everything it's like do you do that now i don't i don't pack my bags and no and doesn't do it
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betty does it but she reports that's incredible yeah so i do a lot of stuff so yeah i don't i
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don't wash my car put gas in my car um the weirder stuff i have this thing about a certain
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type of gum and these uh toothpicks that i like uh to keep my teeth clean and they are literally
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they're always in the right places in my car in my office everywhere we have this cool thing like
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all the repurchasing in every home all the stuff there's like a little spot that we put stuff if
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it's almost finished and you just put it there it's like a magic little square i know man you
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guys are gonna love this magic little square guess what happens when you put something about
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it gets reordered more shows up it is awesome so uh i do a lot of stuff i don't shop right i have
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a shopper and she just sends me a bunch of stuff i put it on i create two piles i walk away and
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all of a sudden i get the right stuff it's kind of awesome the way i think about it for me i only
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to do two things i create in my unique genius or i hug and i hang out with people i love
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think about it that's literally all i do that's all i want to do the the part and one of the
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reason why i want to hit on this is because the world is crazy and if you guys if we were to post
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this segment on either of our instagrams what would happen massive shame yeah you know you rich
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tats the rich right like that's the world we live in and here's the problem with that this is why
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we have to have rooms like this because guess how the wealthy get wealthier it's the small things
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the things that they never share out loud because they would get lambasted for it and so because of
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that more people stay poor and we don't actually give the hand up to the next generation how did
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we all i started as an assistant back in high school i had a rich family that i worked for i
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drove their cars sometimes i ran into things i didn't always tell them about it and i did a bunch
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of awful work when I was young. And I'm sure somebody could say that woman couldn't have
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washed her car. Well, those first 20 bucks let me make my very first investments. And so shame
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on every single one of us if we think that it's pretentious to allow somebody else to do a lower
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level task for ourselves. That is how we stay poor. Number seven is my video on the 10 books
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that will make you rich from the 1800 that I've read. A long time ago, I got myself in trouble,
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ended up in rehab and somebody wrote a book a book on java programming and i found that book
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learning how to code became my new addiction filled a hole inside of me and from that one
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book i went on a journey to acquire knowledge my dad did something really cool he said as long as
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you finish the book you have an unlimited budget to buy the next book and i've applied that to my
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life i have an unlimited budget to invest in my knowledge today i read every day i think of it as
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my way of programming my mind. 10 pages is usually the minimum. And what I'm doing every time, I'm
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not just reading, I'm studying books because I believe the words we read and the words we tell
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ourselves, the beliefs we have creates our future. So I've read over 1,800 books and I've had to
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distill it into these 10 books that will make you rich. The first book is Secrets of a Millionaire
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mind. So fun fact, this book back in the day, it came with a ticket to go to the event. And the
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reason why this book was so important to me, it was actually the first seminar where my brother
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and I invested in a coach, in a trainer, in actual education and ourselves. Now, what makes this book
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unique is that it really attacks the mindset that keeps us poor. And it's not financially poor,
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that if we want to have more, we have to become more.
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one, is your financial blueprint shapes your financial destiny.
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And what is the new blueprint you have to acquire?
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The other one is that we invest in personal development
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See, most of us, if we actually got a million dollars
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and we weren't millionaires, we would quickly lose it.
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And we have to learn how to act despite of fear.
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the other books wouldn't really make sense for me.
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I've probably read this book about seven times.
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Number one is that desire is the starting point
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Most of us don't wanna give ourselves permission
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to actually want more because we think for some reason
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If you don't have belief in your ability to succeed,
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you'll never get a penny more than you think you deserve.
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helped me in a big way to internalize my financial goals.
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For me, it was software, it was startups, it's technology.
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And finally, persistence in efforts lead to success.
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You have to be consistent in your effort to be successful
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Number three is seven habits of highly effective people.
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The other thing is begin with a clear end goal in mind.
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I'm always saying, okay, at the end of the day,
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what does this look like if it's a 10 out of 10?
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I first really understood that concept in this book.
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Seek first to understand, then to be understood.
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hey, can you help me understand this, this, and this?
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If you have not read this, I can't recommend it enough.
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Number one is to show genuine interest in other people.
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The other one is encourage others to talk about themselves.
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You wanna get an investor, you wanna get a new customer,
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and encourage others to talk about their interests.
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I'm gonna ask you way more questions than I talk.
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And the reason why is I already know what I know.
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So why am I talking when I get together with other folks,
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especially if they've gotten to a place that inspire me?
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They're always curious and genuinely interested
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their being, their kindness, and just give them a compliment.
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Just let people know, hey, I just want you to know
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oh, that thing you just did, it's really impressive.
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So what's funny about this is that many people feel
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but they're scared that it's gonna come off wrong.
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If you feel something, you see somebody do something awesome,
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And that's how you'll win friends and influence people.
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is successful selling is about asking the right questions.
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lean back, ask questions to help guide the decisions of the buyer and make it their idea.
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That was a big idea. The other one is understand the customer situation. That's actually what
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SPIN stands for. Situation, problem, implication, and need payoff. If you understand those four
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things, that's where the opportunity to enroll them, to sell them, to invite them, to consider
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working with you all come from. The other one is focus on problem solving, not just product
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feature. See, the features unlock the benefits. They don't care how they get there, the tool,
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the vehicle, et cetera. They want the benefit that it's going to unlock. So you got to make
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sure you understand how to speak towards solving their problem, not just the features of your
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product. And finally, you have to tailor your sales approach to each customer. For every
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interaction, every customer know that you have to be in there with them. You have to customize your
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conversation to meet their needs. And if you do that, you're executing on the spin selling
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process. Number six is for many people, a bit of a controversial book, 48 Laws of Power by Robert
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Green. Now I'll tell you why this book matters to me is you need to understand how the world is,
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not how you hope it would be so that you can understand the powers, the forces that may be
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playing against you in business. So a lot of things I've learned from this book. Number one is
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You have to have careful strategy and planning.
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See, a lot of people that are too braggadocious,
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but they don't actually influence people to take action.
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The other one is reputation is incredibly important.
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protect it. My philosophy is reach and reputation to the degree that my reputation is positive and
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people that interact with me say good things. And then also there's reach for that. That is
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actually the unlock for any one of your dreams and goals. The other big idea is use absence to
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increase respect and honor. So sometimes creating space actually allows people to see you through a
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different lens. For a lot of the entrepreneurs out there, you're too involved in every freaking
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So you have to master that if you want to build
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Number two is decisions shape destiny, not your conditions.
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You can just find somebody else that's come from worse
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The other one is set clear, powerful, and compelling goals.
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They don't set clear, powerful, and compelling goals,
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and because of that, they'll never hit anything.
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The other one is develop and maintain a high level of energy.
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And finally, master personal and professional relationships.
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Number eight is Getting Things Done by David Allen.
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This one for me is a game changer, and I'll tell you why.
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because they have a lot of things in their mind
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put it out in front of you so that you can work with it.
03:21:42.520
The other thing is you wanna do one thing at a time
03:21:48.100
and the truth is, is we're not good at it at all.
03:21:52.260
The other is make a list and keep track easily.
03:21:57.480
Have a list and track where are you at in that list?
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I've always had incredible sleep scores on my aura.
03:22:12.860
And finally, you wanna take action steps step by step calmly.
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If you do that, you will learn how to get things done
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Number nine is The Lean Startup by my friend, Eric Ries.
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Now, fun fact, I actually met Eric in San Francisco
03:22:36.280
speaking at different conferences about the concept of a lean startup, and then he eventually
03:22:39.920
signed a deal to write it. Let me tell you this. This book changed the game for all startups in
03:22:45.240
Silicon Valley and all businesses in the world because it showed entrepreneurs a completely
03:22:49.460
different way to build companies. The big ideas in this book, I mean, there's so many, but the
03:22:53.560
first one is startups must adapt and adjust quickly to succeed. It's all about pivots. We need to be
03:22:58.680
able to make decisions and pivot quickly. The other area is validate business ideas through customer
03:23:03.140
feedback. No business plan survives first contact with the customer. So you need to talk to your
03:23:09.320
customers. The whole structure of the book is built around the build, measure, learn loop,
03:23:13.620
and it's crucial for building your business. We always want to build something, measure it with
03:23:18.320
the customers, look at the analytics, and then learn, and then feed that back into the next
03:23:23.100
iteration. The other key area is focus on minimum viable product for early testing. You don't want
03:23:28.740
to overbuild. Too often people overbuild their business. They build so many features into their
03:23:33.740
software just to launch. And that is a recipe for waste. And the other final idea that I think is
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so important that I've read in so many other books, but it really is crystallized in this one
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is continuous innovation is the key to long-term success. So if you want to learn how to build a
03:23:50.980
business and take shots on goals and learn and move quickly, then get the lean startup.
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Number 10 is such an important book for me and it's called The Innovator's Dilemma. As a software entrepreneur, as somebody that innovates, that creates technology, this really became the blueprint for building businesses. There was so many incredible lessons and Clayton Christensen is not only a great author and mind, but he was also just an incredible person.
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I mean, his other books are also really great reads
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He left a meaningful impact just outside of creating innovation
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or teaching people how to think about innovation.
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But the big ideas that are going to help you is one,
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that companies can fail despite good management
03:24:36.180
I mean, think of Blockbuster, BlackBerry, Kodak.
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All these companies essentially had market position, number one,
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and disruptive technology often initially underperformed,
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Like all these areas of innovation took something
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nobody's gonna wanna walk around with a bunch of music.
03:25:12.820
the innovation showed up, it disrupted whole industries.
03:25:15.760
The other concept is that companies should invest
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even if they don't meet current customer needs.
03:25:21.960
And the reason why is you just wanna be close to it.
03:25:28.620
you wanna be close to the innovation and the technology
03:25:31.980
so that you can figure out where that might show up
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is that organizational structures and their values
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can impede recognizing and responding to disruptive change.
03:26:00.000
Google's trying to respond to massive innovation
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in a space that they probably got flat-footed on.
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are the ones that are looking inside the crystal ball,
03:26:30.460
making investments on trend speculations or emotions.
03:26:36.520
to actually get ROI so you don't eat shattered glass.
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At 26 years old, one of my mentors told me to take half of what I'd made at the time and I've earned and put it into a stability bucket, essentially an investment where I wouldn't lose my money.
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So what I did is I dollar cost average myself into the index funds.
03:27:00.140
You know, a long time ago, I was reading books on investing and I came across like John Bogle's book on index funds and many others.
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And the whole idea is that if you can get a low cost fee structure,
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But it's definitely the way for you not to lose your money
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I see a lot of people invest in stuff where it's too liquid.
03:27:26.000
But if you're trying to play for the long game and say,
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Then I can't think of a better investment than index funds.
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Let's just take all that money, put it into an index fund,
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and then my family can live off of the dividends every year.
03:27:47.520
This investment is for people that are unwilling to learn,
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There's nothing better than low-cost fee index funds.
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I mean, if you look at a long game over a 25-year period,
03:28:03.740
you might lose 40 to 50 percent of the value of your investment as a bucket just because you're
03:28:09.180
paying other people's fees and that compounds over time index funds have some of the lowest fees
03:28:14.140
because you're not paying for active management whereas in a mutual fund you're paying somebody
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to manage it and they got all these little hidden fees they say oh no we're low fees no you're not
03:28:23.100
if you look at the actually fine print they can raise their fees lower like over the time that
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And if you move it around, it's not the right way to do it.
03:28:35.280
You can choose whichever ones, but you wanna find stuff,
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have a decent portfolio and just set it and forget it.
03:28:49.880
I had my 5% down and I got into real estate game.
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And the reason I like it is because it allows you
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and he turned all of his extra cash into investments
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and ended up building a really sizable portfolio.
03:29:26.780
My buddy, Matt, who I was hiking with this morning,
03:29:36.800
that has some very unique properties to it, pun intended.
03:29:43.360
It's not a fun and you own real estate that has purpose,
03:29:50.700
that a lot of people do called the BRRR method, right?
03:29:52.520
Which is buy, rehab, rent, refinance, and repeat method.
03:30:15.680
to consider real estate as an investment vehicle.
03:30:25.880
can become the vehicle for investment for example my buddy mike brown he teaches this framework at
03:30:31.240
his unbreakable wealth seminars where you can look at cars and watches and art and wine and
03:30:37.240
all these different collectibles you know whatever your thing is you can be into comic books and you
03:30:41.880
could either put your money into index funds or rsps or whatever or you could actually put them
03:30:47.640
into the collectible that you are passionate about that you love that you you know think about this
03:30:53.560
what if you could invest in the thing that you spend hours on youtube studying so like i love
03:30:58.520
cars okay i think super cars are beautiful beautiful works of art and i'm putting together
03:31:03.480
a collection i mean i'm inspired by a guy like steve hamilton who has a hamilton car collection
03:31:08.040
or you know manny koshpin or even one of my mentors andy frisella i mean here's these people
03:31:13.880
that have these multi-deca million dollar car collections but if you look under the hood
03:31:19.400
they're actually investments they're not buying cars that are going to go down and depreciate
03:31:24.280
they know that purchasing these rare editions of these collectibles is actually not only going to
03:31:28.920
hold the money but it's going to go up over time now it does require you to put the time and energy
03:31:33.400
to study it but you don't make money when you sell you make money when you buy you have to be patient
03:31:39.560
you have to look for unique opportunities so you have to have access to inventory in deals
03:31:45.000
to make this work but it could be one of the funnest things you could do with your money what
03:31:49.560
you don't do is go buy a brand new car or brand new watch off the lot you need to do the work you
03:31:55.800
need to find somebody ideally a mentor that's already made money doing this and ask them how
03:32:01.000
they've done it what are the auctions they go to what are the unlisted websites who are the brokers
03:32:06.280
who are the other people that have private collections that might be looking to liquidate
03:32:09.720
some of those assets you want to get somebody who's already doing it that doesn't have more
03:32:14.840
time or the ability to invest more and you could be the person that gets some of their release valve
03:32:20.520
of collectibles that you could buy and start building up your collection so the money could
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either be in the bank and an investment or it could be in a beautiful object that you get to
03:32:29.560
look at and enjoy on a daily basis it's up to you the fourth vehicle is intellectual property it's
03:32:36.620
and putting it into a format that people can purchase, right?
03:32:40.060
Like a book, a media company, licensing models,
03:32:57.540
all these people that are making millions of dollars online
03:33:00.800
by learning, getting really great at something,
03:33:03.580
creating a course intellectual property, and then using the media side to get distribution so that
03:33:08.700
they can sell people that want to learn that on their product. It is a huge opportunity to get
03:33:13.520
leverage. And the coolest part about the whole process is that the better you get at it, the
03:33:17.340
better you get in life. Most people don't package their intellectual property in a way that other
03:33:23.260
people can buy or consume. I know a lot of people that know a lot about stuff. I got a buddy, he
03:33:28.040
knows more about more than anybody else I know, but he's never put it down in a way that somebody
03:33:32.180
could purchase to learn from so he's just the most interesting man in the room but never makes
03:33:37.380
any money from that because he hasn't translated that into intellectual property the fifth vehicle
03:33:42.820
is in yourself the reality of it is the best investment you could ever make is in your skill
03:33:48.180
sets and becoming more valuable to the market you know i bought my first book when i was 23 and that
03:33:54.100
was kind of late then i went to my first seminar and i invested 38 000 in an expert over a three
03:34:01.620
year period to teach me everything he had learned about building businesses at this point in my life
03:34:07.060
i've invested probably 1.5 million plus in myself in my coaching in my skill sets in my ability to
03:34:14.660
shoot videos just like this i've paid consultants 30 000 for one hour of their time because they've
03:34:21.300
spent their whole life learning something that they could teach me and that investment in myself
03:34:26.500
and knowledge I can translate into different businesses
03:34:35.540
Get around other people that are gonna keep you positive,
03:34:41.960
Then try to figure out where you wanna get better at
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in any category of information you wanna learn.
03:34:54.720
top three to five books in marketing then try to invest in if you got a little bit more money go to
03:34:59.760
the events go get around people that are also passionate about that thing see most people get
03:35:05.360
it wrong when they just like learn stuff just for someday maybe i call it just in case learning
03:35:10.080
versus just in time see you want to study the thing that's going to have the biggest impact
03:35:14.560
on your life today people that go learn and then just put it to the side i call that shelf help
03:35:20.000
right they're trying to learn the latest craze but they don't even have a vehicle to translate
03:35:24.240
the know-how into anything that's going to make the money, right? Focus on what's true, not new,
03:35:29.060
the fundamentals, the foundation, not the whiz bang wizardry of the current world, but like
03:35:34.280
these core principles about being a better person, working on your health and really understanding
03:35:39.500
business fundamentals. Investing yourself allows you to bring you with you and every opportunity
03:35:44.940
for the rest of your life. Those are the best investments you can make today. And finally,
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number nine is the only video you need to get rich this year. You have two people, poor person a
03:35:54.640
million dollars, wealthy person a million dollars. Poor people get money and they start calculating
03:35:58.800
the new furniture they could buy, the trips they can go on, the new car they could lease. They
03:36:02.920
essentially spent the million dollars before it's even finished the wire transfer. The wealthy
03:36:07.320
person doesn't rush to do anything with the money and starts considering based on their allocation
03:36:12.480
and their portfolio, where can I get the best return that makes the most sense for the long
03:36:16.400
term poor people use money to consume wealthy people use money to create more money why do you
03:36:22.320
think most people are broke i think most people are broke for a few reasons the first one is is
03:36:35.060
that they don't they're they don't they don't realize that they're responsible 100 for their
03:36:43.660
life like a hundred percent they're accountable like there's nobody coming to save you there's
03:36:48.200
nobody that's going to do it for you there's no moment where somebody passes away and leaves you
03:36:52.040
a bunch of money there's no lottery tickets there's no going to the casino and winning
03:36:56.080
there's literally you saying if i don't make this better it will not get better
03:37:01.860
that needs to happen second part is they're broke because they don't realize that the world
03:37:06.940
will compensate you based on the value you bring to the world.
03:37:11.500
So if you're upset with what you're making income-wise
03:37:15.320
or you feel like people are taking advantage of you,
03:37:29.080
if you can be 100% accountable for your situation
03:37:31.540
and develop yourself to become more valuable for other people,
03:37:35.520
and then i would say the third thing is to know your worth because i don't think even if you had
03:37:41.380
those first two if you didn't believe you deserved more you'll never get a penny more than you think
03:37:47.020
you're worth so if you don't feel your worth more even if you're more valuable even if you're 100
03:37:51.780
accountable but you don't ask for it it will never show up in your life that's why i think people are
03:37:58.280
broke is because they're not willing to be accountable for their situation they're not
03:38:01.920
willing to invest in themselves to acquire new skills are more valuable and they're not
03:38:05.420
willing to ask for what they think they deserve because they don't think they deserve a lot
03:38:08.480
and no other person is going to going to teach you how to deserve more you have to decide
03:38:13.980
that you are worth it tell me something about rich people that 99 of people don't know
03:38:23.240
that rich people are harder on themselves than anybody else will ever be on them
03:38:39.360
And what I've discovered is the people that have wealth
03:38:42.060
are wealthy because they were willing to do the work.
03:38:53.040
that they've been given an opportunity and a blessing.
03:38:57.460
I'm not talking about people that are trustworthy.
03:38:59.180
I'm talking to people that have created their situation.
03:39:03.760
It could be somebody that's an executive at a company
03:39:05.520
that gets paid a lot of money to do what they do.
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03:39:09.660
What you will quickly learn if you spend time with them
03:39:23.260
And for some of them, it's not a life you would wanna live.
03:39:29.760
it's like i don't know if you want to have all that comes with being rich because it isn't easy
03:39:35.680
it only becomes easy if you learn how to deal with those emotions the feelings that come with
03:39:40.320
being rich and realize that to the degree that you can deal with bigger problems
03:39:51.280
you went from rehab to being a multi-millionaire what what changed
03:40:16.360
kind of everything like everything had to change my whole world view when i when i
03:40:25.180
go back 25 years coming out of this place portage that literally saved my life
03:40:32.080
after spending 11 months there trying to learn about myself and what made me tick
03:40:37.140
there was so much that had to change i would think i would say the thing that is universal
03:40:49.340
though for me for sure is that i believed i could do it but that belief came from other people
03:40:56.480
so i didn't believe i could do it other people believed that i could do more but i accepted the
03:41:06.160
belief and like that's a different thing because there's been situations where people have talked
03:41:10.300
about kind of what they think they see me do and i'm like oh i wasn't ready to believe it
03:41:13.980
but the one thing for sure is because I had shown up and got sober and then got out and started in
03:41:21.480
business. And even though I failed for seven years of trying back to back failures, people still
03:41:28.760
believed because of what I went through and where I was at, even in the failures that I had potential
03:41:34.880
that they saw the passion I brought to anything I did. They believed that there was eventually
03:41:40.040
going to be some kind of success. I don't think any of us could have predicted what it became,
03:41:43.800
but that was probably the big thing that shifted for me
03:41:47.600
was just the belief that I could be one of those people
03:41:53.160
not believing that I was even worth breathing the air
03:42:39.460
and that's why i think i wake up every day to just try to be better is just i want to honor
03:42:49.080
the fact that i was given a chance like there's no world statistically where i'm alive
03:42:56.000
let alone thriving let alone having resources that i get to choose to do what i want to do
03:43:03.800
what i want to do with whoever i want to do and be wherever like i mean it's just it's just an
03:43:07.980
honor and when i think how close it came to that not being the case it just gets me emotional i'm
03:43:15.100
just i think that if you don't have anybody that can believe in you know that he believes in you
03:43:26.540
that your creator believes in you if you follow my content i believe in you i don't even need to
03:43:32.060
know you because i know who you were created by and i believe in you like i legit see you doing
03:43:39.020
something incredible with your life i think it's why you're watching this video sometimes people
03:43:44.380
want to see a sign they're like show me a sign and the sign's right there the sign could be this
03:43:51.900
conversation it literally is not it doesn't have to be a big grand gesture it can be a moment with
03:43:57.740
a person a video an audio something you hear or see or you read and you're like oh i've been asking
03:44:04.620
for this and it's right there i think i've had hundreds of those show up in my life
03:44:11.180
sometimes i wasn't paying attention sometimes i was
03:44:14.540
sometimes i played it down sometimes i played it up but
03:44:24.160
to see the absolute blessing that is called life
03:44:33.260
And whether we want to do something with it or not,
03:44:41.360
and I can either choose to actively engage in my life
03:44:47.980
The fact that I have consciousness and I have the ability to have judgment and make decisions, you know, I'm alive.
03:44:59.360
I can be grateful in this moment for the air I breathe, like crazy grateful.
03:45:04.560
Because in three minutes, if you didn't have any air to breathe, you would wish you did.
03:45:11.620
I think sometimes we need more than we think we need to actually decide to just change things.
03:45:26.100
I just got to realize that, like, hey, if I don't do it, nobody else is going to do it,
03:45:29.740
and I don't need anybody to believe in me because what if they can't see my greatness because they're too close?
03:45:35.840
What if the fact that they're my family or my friends and they've known me for a long time
03:45:50.700
But when you're on a journey of personal development
03:45:56.300
And it's easy to feel like they don't understand.
03:46:01.840
because they don't understand what you see inside.
03:46:18.580
and you just have to be okay being misunderstood
03:46:22.280
And over time, if you show up and you do the work
03:46:44.900
for me the way i always overcome the fear of starting anything is realize one the people that
03:46:58.340
i care about their opinion are more worried about their own life than my life right everybody's
03:47:05.280
living in this movie called me movie or me ink and they're like worrying about what everybody
03:47:10.520
else thinks of them and we think they're thinking about us but they're not so first off judgment
03:47:15.940
from other people about what i do with my life i usually park those things because i realized that
03:47:21.780
their beliefs in my decisions are 100 a reflection of their own limitations judgment reality of their
03:47:29.560
life they've lived not on my reflection of my life and decisions so that's one two
03:47:35.000
most people's worst case is actually other people's dream scenario think about that
03:47:42.640
most people's worst case scenario of having to live with their parents again having to lose
03:47:48.520
everything and sell it or whatever it is based on where they live in the world the worst case for
03:47:53.420
them is some other person in the world's dream outcome some other person in the world that woke
03:48:00.220
up today that doesn't have any food a place to sleep anybody that cares about them your worst
03:48:05.700
case scenario would be their dream life put that into perspective so like starting or trying is
03:48:12.540
kind of silly if you take that into consideration and then the other thing is tomorrow is definitely
03:48:19.240
not guaranteed but i don't even look at it that way i think about in five-year increments
03:48:24.340
like if i only had five years to live five years to breathe five years to expand and grow and
03:48:30.060
create and spend time with people what would i want to do over those next five years
03:48:35.320
people should get really familiar with the concept that their life is very impermanent
03:48:41.120
it is it's here and gone five years is enough time to do something meaningful
03:48:49.060
Like, I don't think people should pretend like,
03:48:50.700
oh, I got a week to live and go stay on a beach.
03:48:52.540
No, five years is like, hey, I want to leave an impact.
03:49:16.940
you wouldn't even have the idea to start a business
03:49:32.460
but it's very rare for somebody to be pushed into a corner
03:49:36.080
that rose up that didn't get through that tough situation
03:49:41.660
And I think we just forget that if you just decide,
03:49:46.660
is because it's meant for you to go create that outcome that business go after your dreams that
03:49:53.300
you will be given the strength to accomplish that and it's why for you specifically you've had this
03:49:58.580
thought you probably have a dream that i've never even considered nothing i'd ever want to desire
03:50:05.220
or get or anything you have a unique vision of your life that i've never had that's only yours
03:50:10.500
and the reason why is because it's meant for you
03:50:16.660
i'm setting goals and dreams but i'm not achieving any of them what should i do
03:50:26.260
measure and get feedback if you're setting goals and dreams okay and you're not achieving them
03:50:33.100
two things that are missing measuring progress where are you at now where do you want to be
03:50:40.240
what should you be making progress towards what's the number most people don't break things down
03:50:45.640
into actions right so if i know i want to be a millionaire by the time i'm 30 it seems to be
03:50:52.040
everybody's or make 100k a month now it seems like that's a new number then where are you at
03:50:58.080
if you're 22 you want to be a millionaire at 30 that's eight years break it down now it's not it's
03:51:02.700
not linear it usually kind of goes exponentially but you should be on pace then you measure it
03:51:06.960
every quarter and every month so now we have a measurement timeline but then we got to back it
03:51:11.440
up by like what kind of activities or decisions would create the scenario for that to be true
03:51:15.380
obviously if you want to start a business or you want to get into a structure in your current
03:51:19.260
company where you can get paid based on performance those are all things that could
03:51:22.140
you know you could save your way to that you can invest your way to that definitely invest
03:51:25.780
over save but then you have a measurement now what will happen is along the way at some point
03:51:32.800
you will plateau here's what i know to be true 100 of the time is there will be issues there
03:51:37.940
will be problems or i like to call them puzzles you will face adversity and the way to overcome
03:51:44.380
that is to get feedback is to find people that have built the million a year business or more
03:51:49.780
and ask them for feedback to analyze your strategy and those people typically will come in look at it
03:51:55.560
and within seconds go oh change this tweak that start this stop that and all of a sudden the
03:52:01.660
momentum builds back up there's no person i know that if they're honest with themselves
03:52:07.540
measured their progress along the way and if at any point they felt like they hit a wall
03:52:12.400
went and seeked advice or feedback from people that have been there before
03:52:16.020
and took that feedback and change and tweak their strategy i don't know anybody who hasn't
03:52:21.060
been successful but a lot of people just lie to themselves along that journey and they'll say oh
03:52:26.240
it's not for me or it's harder it's not working it's not working because you don't want it to
03:52:29.760
work because you're not giving feedback you're not seeking out why this is uncomfortable yeah i know
03:52:34.360
that's the work that has to be done anything that's easy that's like that's immediately you
03:52:39.320
know that's not the right thing it's supposed to be hard you're supposed to deal with adversity
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that will make you better steel sharpen steel and through that journey is how you actually
03:52:52.920
what's the number one trait in successful people that that you've observed through the years
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man that's a great question number one character trait the number one like if i had to like there's
03:53:14.200
a lot of stuff you know determined grit resilient but i would say is they have the the ability
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to drive like and and it's not like some people can have spurts of it successful people are driven
03:53:35.180
they're driving they're they're in the driver's seat of their dreams they're that the people on
03:53:43.620
their team feel the energy of forward motion and even if they have a flat tire they fix the tire
03:53:51.420
and they're back to being driven successful people literally feel different when you talk to them
03:53:57.680
they're they're not looking at their feet they're looking at the the skyline like there's a different
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energy of even their language their focus what they work on but the word that always comes to
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mind if i think of like my mentors my coaches the people i work with my friends that are incredibly
03:54:14.800
successful driven individuals it doesn't matter are they outgoing introverted you know creatives
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engineers left brain right brain doesn't matter what's true amongst all them is they are driven
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you can feel that energy to forward motion and creation
03:54:54.880
see this is the thing is words matter and meaning matters right so like for me success is not
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wealth success you know if you do things primarily for money or every decision you
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make is based on money, then I don't actually think that's success. I think success is this
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concept I got from my coach, which is blissfully dissatisfied. I think success is waking up every
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day and being so ridiculously grateful. I think success is waking up every day and being so
03:55:29.380
ridiculously grateful that it could bring you to tears. And in the same breath, realize that you
03:55:35.540
were here to create more not out of a place of lack not out of a place of recognition not to fill
03:55:42.820
a void that's inside not the not to create because you don't feel enough know you're enough
03:55:49.220
feel that realize how big of a blessing everything in your life currently is no matter how good or
03:55:56.540
bad it is just absolutely feel the gratitude for the presence and know in that same breath
03:56:03.060
that you're here to do more with your life that to me is success and it's not a number in a bank
03:56:15.480
i think every person's purpose sits right next to the worst thing that ever happened to them
03:56:27.020
and here's why i usually ask people at like what level of income is it 100 grand 500 grand a
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million dollars 10 million dollars 100 million dollars a year what level of income personally
03:56:39.860
to you do you stop thinking about accumulation and things you could buy and start thinking about
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giving to other people and that's a fascinating question because some people it's like 100 000
03:56:51.620
they're thinking i'll give 50 away i can live off 50 some people it's it's north of 10 million so
03:56:56.760
there's a big range. But what usually follows that is if you had that surplus, what cause
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would you want to invest that into? What pain or challenge do you see people face that you
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would love to help them overcome or make easier for them? And it's usually aligned with the worst
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thing that's ever happened to them. Growing up in poverty, growing up without a father,
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experiencing medical illness or whatever it is,
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just some kind of pain you've ever experienced.
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And usually right next to that pain is your purpose.
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for what you're here to do, the purpose in your life,
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to create a business that supports that it's aligned with that where the business and the
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purpose are the same thing or directionally serve the same thing that is a winning recipe
03:58:04.120
so i just can't see a world where somebody wakes up and says hey by helping people
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i get to collect resources aka make money and then take that and support a cause an organization or
03:58:19.460
people that you feel absolutely compelled to serve based on what you experienced in your life that's
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super unique to you i think if every person woke up with that drive and desire that would change
03:58:30.180
the world it literally would we don't need billionaires to fix problems we need people
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to go create millionaires and then solve the problems around them in their community
03:58:39.360
it's making a lot of money a bad thing no be everybody should want to be rich
03:58:48.180
every person should have a desire to create resources to do more i have a problem when
03:58:53.960
people say that they really care about helping people and they think that playing small is
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helping anybody because if you see other people be rich or have more money than you and you think
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that they're not using it right great go become a millionaire go go grab that resource go create
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a better mousetrap go build a business go become more to go be rich and then do what you want with
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the money, you know, and people say, well, it's not about the money. Well, I say, well, go become
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a millionaire and then decide what you want to do with it. But don't tell me it's not about the
03:59:25.500
money because the money is a reflection of the value created in the world. So I think every
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person should have a desire to be rich, go get as much money as you possibly can. And then as you're
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doing it, choose what you do with it. And I think that is just a beautiful way to wake up every day.
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it's not about you know saying well rich is bad there's nothing wrong with creating resources
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like every day the more options you have the the bigger the opportunity to live a fulfilled life
03:59:55.520
so if you want to donate to a charity do you want to donate a little or a lot i want to donate a
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lot cool go get rich if you want to help a cause you want to help a little bit or you help a lot
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i want to help a lot great go get rich you know you got this person you want to bless you want
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bless them a little bit. You want to bless them a lot. Great. Go get rich. There's nothing wrong
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with being rich. The desire for why I think is a problem. What you do once you collect it is a
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problem. The way you think about yourself or make decisions, once you have money, it could be a
04:00:25.300
problem, but money is a tool. No different than a fork is a tool. It can be used to nourish your
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body or it can be used to take somebody's life. It's the same thing. You decide what you do with
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that resource but every person should have a desire to be rich because what you're saying is
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i deserve i'm worth it i can create value in this world i i i i'm capable of growing my skills
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growing my beliefs growing my character traits to become the person that i was created to become
04:00:57.380
your 10.0 version your best version if you took all the best moments in your life where you
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stepped up powerfully and you're creative and you're resourceful and you're kind and you're
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gracious all those things if you took the best moments of your life put them all together
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if you actually live like that all 18 hours you're awake or whatever amount of time you're awake
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can you imagine that person that's that's that's it so when i say rich i just say best version of
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yourself you should want that what do you think about legacy
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here's the deal i think purpose is required you can't have perseverance without purpose
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because if you did some people call that grit i call it a grind if you want to see somebody's
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soul just get deteriorated have them work on something and not know why and i think that's
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what happens with a lot of people they they feel fatigued they feel like burnt out and it's like
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i've never been burnt out doing something i love for a purpose that's way bigger than me
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so the challenge is is that i believe that focusing on other people is a good thing i think
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using language around legacy can sometimes be another part of the ego playing tricks on you
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to do things for long term so you don't enjoy the short term so a lot of people make sacrifices for
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legacy for their family for multi-generational wealth whatever it is they sacrifice in the short
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term and i find that as a cop-out instead of just saying hey can i be present now can the best thing
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that i leave the world is me now in this moment for the rest of my life not a sacrifice for this
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generation that you'll never meet that in three generations will never know your name you cannot
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tell me your great great grandparents names maybe 0.1 percent of you guys but very few people know
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their lineage nor does it matter what matters is how did you show up today who did you impact today
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what kind of conversations you have today what kind of energy did you bring to every interaction
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with every person you had today that that's legacy but it's not legacy the way most people
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think about it it's a decision to leave the world a better place i think the best thing you could
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ever leave the world is your if you have kids is your kids like that's my my gift is not a
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financial bucket of money my gift is going to be my children it's going to be the relationships
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the people that came into my life it's the the teams that i've built i think legacy is just
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used as a cop-out for sacrificing today and not living today i want to encourage people to just
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like show up fully present in the moment for now try to get it done in this lifetime afterwards
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it's going to get redistributed to everybody the idea of ownership is hilarious nothing you have
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you own you think you do it's gone your home not yours you think you own the land you don't
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think you have that money in that bank account you don't none of it you it's all borrowed it's
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and it all goes back to the economy once you're done.
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if you actually live that way i think it has the best chance of you living that long the whole idea
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of like donating money to a hospital to put your name on a new section of the building which in 20
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years will literally sell your naming rights to the next person's highest bidder that's not legacy
04:05:00.060
legacy is how you show up today you had a tweet go viral um a couple days ago normalize leaving
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people in whatever reality they have chosen um can you expand on that yeah the tweet that went viral
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i wrote normalize leaving people in the reality that they've chosen and the reason why is
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if you come to the understanding that every person is choosing their reality okay they're choosing
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the world as they want to see it because the world isn't as it is the world is as you are
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So whatever world that they see, the limitation, the lack, the frustration, the challenges,
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I can't convince other people to change their beliefs on the world.
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I can offer them perspectives and what I call POVs, points of views, that might influence
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them to make a decision to change that, but it's up to them.
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So I've just gotten to a place where I'm 100% comfortable and okay with somebody not
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seeing things the way I want to see it or doing things in a way I wouldn't agree with not being
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upset about it but just letting them go through their world be on their journey and it not affect
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me because it truly is not my responsibility and I think when I say normalizing is like I would
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just hope everybody gets to understanding that sooner than later so that they can actually live
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a life that's way more peaceful because once you realize there's nobody else to fix and it's really
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just you that i can control that i have agency over and i can move through the world with that
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understanding i'll just let everybody else kind of figure out their stuff at their own timeline
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i think imposter syndrome is cool because imposter syndrome tells you where you're at
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your upper limits of your comfort like my favorite thing is to get in a room where i know that if
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anybody figured out that i was in it they'd probably kick me out of it okay at the same time
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the nerves means i care so the fact that you have imposter syndrome is actually a beautiful thing
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because it tells you that you're honoring the opportunity you've been given the challenge is
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when you act out of that feeling and you don't take action to be in that room you convince yourself
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to not go you you know let somebody else take the spot you know whatever it is like you just
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don't want to not step into it but imposter syndrome is part of the process anytime that
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you're trying to do something for the first time it's going to require you to show up in a way that
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from the outside seems confident but you know inside it's kind of like the duck on the top of
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the water it's just moving around the water really calm and collected and underneath it's got his two
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feet just moving you know frantically that's like your internal emotions I remember one time I got
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invited to an event and I had to go for a walk because I was so nervous because every person I
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looked up to is in that room like all the people people I follow on the internet they were in the
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room I went to the gym in the morning 13 people that I absolutely adore from Instagram were
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working out in that room and I'm sitting there going holy moly I hope they like who I am I mean
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I was legit scared I called my dad I said hey dad I'm like way in over my head my dad's like
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are you serious like do you remember where you came from did you forget what you've accomplished
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and I was like yeah but these people are way more accomplished he goes
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Dan they'd be lucky to have a conversation with you like I know you and it blows my mind what
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you've done what you're doing where you've come from I don't even understand it and I don't know
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anybody that's ever done that i would love to have a conversation with them and i think that's a big
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idea for people to consider is that inspiration doesn't come from the size of the thing you've
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accomplished it comes from the place you started and how much you people believe that that was hard
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for you and in many ways imposter syndrome is just acknowledgement that hey this is really tough but
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i i showed up anyway in spite of my fear of being discovered not liked rejected kicked out my fear
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i showed up i could have stayed in my hotel room nobody would have known i didn't show up except
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for me so i hope you have a dad like i have that every once in a while he knows the exact words to
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say but i think imposter syndrome is just part of part of the the journey
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how do wealthy people look at money two things wealthy people look at money as a way to invest
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to get a return poor people look at money as a way to buy things and literally that is the language
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you give two people poor person a million dollars wealthy person a million dollars
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poor people get money and they start calculating the debt they could pay off the the couch they
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could buy the new furniture they could buy the trips they can go on the new car they could lease
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etc they essentially spent the million dollars before it's even finished the wire transfer
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the wealthy person doesn't rush to do anything with the money and starts considering based on
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their allocation in their portfolio where can i get the best return that makes the most sense for
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the long term they don't think of acquiring more stuff they think about it working for them poor
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people use money to consume wealthy people use money to create more money that is the big
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difference between poor people and wealthy people how do wealthy people look at time
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i think wealthy people look at time as a resource that they can't get back
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and they're always looking for ways to spend money to save time not spend time to save money
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and that's the big difference the end of the day money can be created and generated and based on
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the creativity and resourceful that you can make more it doesn't matter what economic class you
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come from rich poor middle class etc you cannot manufacture time so understanding how to spend
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money to get time is the skill of wealthy people and that's the difference between poor people
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and wealthy people poor people think well i'll just work harder and then i'll save money and
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that's how i collect money no you have to become better to create more money so that's how you get
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money wealthy people are always about how do i buy that time to then use the new time to go do
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things that are going to make me more money so that i can start building a surplus
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i don't know where to start it's kind of like worthiness has different like kind of angles to
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it there's the part of like am i worth another person's time right like i know i can add value
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to them but if i don't feel like i can do that clearly i might not be worth their time
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so there's a worthiness of like do i feel regardless of the situation that interacting
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with another person could be valuable to them under the right circumstance that is one part
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worthiness like just in conversations and interactions the other part of worthiness is
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you know what do i deserve to have you know do i deserve to be rich do i deserve to have a nice car
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do i deserve to be in a loving relationship if you don't believe that you deserve you won't it
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you won't receive it right because you'll never fight for that outcome if you believe that you're
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an evil person you've done some bad things you have a lot of shame then you'll never bring into
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your life the the the results of being somebody that deserves those things as many ways i've said
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this so many times you'll never get a penny more than you think you deserve so even like the
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worthiness of like having money is on the byproduct of believing that what you do is valuable
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and i think a lot of people discount what they do because they think that everybody else knows
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how to do it they don't realize it took you four years to learn that or you do it two times faster
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than anybody else that's closest to you that your result is very abnormal because you know it so well
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you're so close to it you're just like oh everybody knows this no they don't and if you can consistently
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get a result for somebody that's worth a lot it's it's worth a fraction of whatever result
04:14:10.440
you can get for them that's what i think of worthiness there's like different dimensions
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to worthiness worthiness isn't just one component it's a worthiness in a relationship worthiness in
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all aspects of love and and family and business and and career and then there's a worthiness of
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just of just attracting wealth into your life you know i have friends that can't receive gifts
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because they don't feel worthy of those gifts because they feel like i have to earn those
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things when they don't realize that they we don't earn those things we attract those things by
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becoming valuable and if somebody wants to bless you you should learn to accept a compliment a gift
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it all comes down to worthiness what's your definition of greatness
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my definition of greatness is very simple are the people closest to you better for having you
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in their life that's that's greatness do people your family your friends your peer groups your
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co-workers would they say their lives got better the more time they spent with you the more
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interactions they had with you the more time they got to work with you the more time they
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had conversations with you do would they all say like man having that person around having you
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around made my life better that is greatness a great person finds the greatness pulls out the
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greatness holds expectations of other people's greatness to the highest potential and shows them
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through their own actions that it's possible that's that's my definition of greatness great
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people bring greatness into other people's lives what do you hope to teach your kids about life
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i got a list of things i want to teach my kids about life but there's a handful of stuff first
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off and they're pretty much all our core values one you don't deserve anything that you didn't
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go and create no no country no family no situation will ever get you what you think you deserve you
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don't deserve anything unless you've created an environment or you've created the scenario where
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you've you've helped other people and you've you've collected a piece of that so there's a
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i think right off the bat it's like just because it's a certain time of day or a certain day of
04:16:37.920
week you don't deserve anything right off the bat number two you are incredible i do this cool thing
04:16:44.720
where i tell my kids about them i tell them about their greatness i tell them about their giftedness
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i tell them about the jesus i see inside of them i tell them about their giftedness like you are
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really good at this you're awesome at this i'm a big fan of teaching them that i'm teaching i love
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teaching my kids to communicate with other people especially adults when you meet an adult walk up
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to them look them in the eye introduce yourself say your name clearly with confidence ask them
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what their name is smile simple will change the game for them in life i teach them about
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collaboration that if you want to go fast sometimes you go alone but if you want to go far you got to
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go with people right and just showing them how to collaborate with other people how to play nicely
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with other people how to partner how to set agreements how to manage expectations how to
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repair arguments huge area i teach my kids um grit i always celebrate the progress not the outcome
04:17:48.660
i whenever my kid accomplishes in something i say tell me about how much effort you put into that
04:17:54.140
how many times did you want to quit tell me about those moments i'm really proud of what you created
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but I'm really impressed with the never-ending drive
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What I've discovered is people that are willing to do hard
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for long periods of time typically do really great in life.
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And if people in your life care about helping the community,
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then caring about those things is is empathy it's compassion and i think you know i always tell them
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that like that person could be your brother could be your dad could be me could be your cousin just
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because they're not they could be so if you had a stranger come across your cousin how would you
04:18:48.080
want them to treat that person if somebody you know my son noah one time i we saw a person
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struggling and i said what if that was max your brother what if your brother you didn't know where
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he was and he was walking around in a city and a stranger went up to him how would you want that
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stranger to interact with them that's how you should interact with that person assuming that
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that is some person's brother son father you don't know what else do i teach them i teach them about
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physical fitness health is wealth that if you don't have the energy to keep pushing when you
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you get tired that that's a decision you can make that you have the capacity to turn that around
04:19:27.260
that what you put in your body affects your mind
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i mean i teach them a lot of stuff i teach the adults
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i teach them the stuff that i know are going to be forced multipliers to have a
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a fulfilling life i teach them to acquire knowledge to read that there's it's impossible
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for you to know what you need to know already it will always be external and you have to bring it
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internal everything that you want to achieve is going to be on the back end of learning something
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new and bring it into your life those are the big things i teach my kids
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how can someone raise kids to not be entitled i think the best way to raise kids and not be
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entitled is to not do things for them right i'm not saying treat them bad abuse them all that
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stuff people misunderstand me all the time i'm saying let your kids learn how to do things let
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ever since they were like six, seven, eight years old
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that these are things that if you want to have happen,
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The other thing is, is I don't buy them everything they want.
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I pay for food, I pay for clothes, I pay for the needs
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they got to go make money by working finding opportunities in the house offering me up
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different chores and projects i don't put them on a salary or an allowance they have to find things
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to do and i'll pay them and if they can come up with half the money then they can get what they
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want but i only pay for the things they need and i go 50 50 on the wants the final thing i'll say
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on this is set the context for your your kids like my kids know when they're 18 they have to leave
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the house now whether i do that or not doesn't matter but the fact that i've been telling them
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since they were little kids has gotten them prepared for leaving the affluent environment
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that they are growing up in okay flying around on jets living in big homes flying around driving
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around in supercars that is not their reality that's my reality that's their parents reality
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okay say often i'm rich you're not these people don't work for you i'm here to love you i will do
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that i don't need to be your best friend i can care about you but i will support you and you
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creating and achieving value in the world independently yourself that's how i avoid
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what's the best piece of parenting advice you ever heard the best piece of parenting advice i ever
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heard i think the best piece of parenting advice i ever heard was celebrate the progress not the
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destination if a kid's climbing a mountain and they're struggling stop point down to the bottom
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show them how small the parking lot was look how far you've come point to the mountaintop
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celebrate the progress once they get to the top talk about moments they wanted to give up
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celebrate those moments what's the secret to a successful relationship a successful relationship
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i can only speak from my side of the table like a male's opinion um don't try to fix things
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like unless you're being asked to fix something just listen but actually listen and want to
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listen the cool part is you don't have to remember anything for the most part and you don't have to
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fix anything so just listen intentively and care and have empathy that's like 80 of the challenge
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I believe in finding a partner that you feel confident
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what matters is that you have a deep connection and appreciation for who they are and their
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character and and you're committed to that investment like you want to co-create a future
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with this person and trying to find the one is actually a kind of a crazy idea and finding and
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investing because like there's no a relationship that starts off perfect and stays perfect it's
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going to require work but what is going to be true is the desire to put that effort into the
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relationship to make it work why do you do what you do i do what i do for little dan
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i do what i do because i know there's kids out there watching what i do making decisions about
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how they show up in life. And if I can share my story of where I came from, where I'm at today,
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and all the different challenges that I had and continue to have, that I bring hope to those kids.
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That's why I do what I do. The success is required to get the attention of the people I really want
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to serve. Because I'll tell you, I don't know about you. I didn't go to university, but if I
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did, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't just happen to come up on my professor's Lamborghini in a parking
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lot. But when I look at my mentors and roll up to their jet or their yacht, that inspires me.
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And I know when I show up to these kids, to a rehab center, to a crisis center, to a group home
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or whatever in a supercar, I get their attention and I get to have a conversation with them.