Dan Martell - October 10, 2022


The Real Reason I Quit Drinking


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In this episode, Dan Martell shares why quitting drinking was one of the most important decisions he ever made in his life. He talks about his personal journey to quitting drinking and why he believes it was the best thing that ever happened to him.

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00:00:00.000 I just wanted to be the generation that broke that and what was required is the pain had to
00:00:05.740 deepen up. Hey there, I'm Dan Martell, serial entrepreneur, investor, and creator of SaaS
00:00:22.940 Academy. In this episode, I'm going to share with you something that's like super near and dear to
00:00:27.060 my heart, which is the decision to quit drinking. Now, I don't know if you've ever struggled with
00:00:33.040 drinking. You don't even have to kind of identify as an alcoholic, but maybe you've had moments
00:00:38.000 where you've done things that you weren't proud of, or you just feel like it's getting in the way
00:00:43.060 of you taking care of your health or your family or relationships. And you've thought about it.
00:00:48.660 Maybe you've done a few days where you didn't drink or a week or a month or sober October.
00:00:53.340 where I don't know what it is,
00:00:54.440 but I'm gonna share with you my personal decision
00:00:56.660 and journey for why I believe that quitting drinking
00:01:01.860 almost a decade ago was probably one of the best decisions
00:01:05.900 I ever made in my life.
00:01:06.960 Now, what happened was is at the time
00:01:11.460 I was super busy with my startup
00:01:15.620 and I had started this new company
00:01:18.800 and I wanted to like be,
00:01:22.000 make it like one of the best companies ever.
00:01:24.160 You know, in the Valley where I was living
00:01:25.520 at the time, San Francisco,
00:01:26.660 it's about building a billion dollar company, right?
00:01:28.600 And it was the early days and I really wanted to like,
00:01:32.240 you know, raise a bunch of capital
00:01:34.040 and build this like game changing platform.
00:01:36.420 And I was going out and I was meeting with investors
00:01:38.320 and I was just, I was out being very social
00:01:40.540 and like anything, if you're out there being social,
00:01:42.660 you're out having dinner, you're having drinks, et cetera.
00:01:45.800 Now, a lot of people may know the story, my story,
00:01:48.740 personal journey of like being addicted to drugs
00:01:51.300 as a teenager and going to rehab.
00:01:52.900 And that's where I discovered programming
00:01:54.620 and it literally saved my life.
00:01:56.520 And for a while I didn't drink
00:01:58.220 and then just started slowly, casually.
00:02:01.360 And the challenge with me,
00:02:02.620 the reason why I don't gamble,
00:02:04.200 I don't play video games.
00:02:06.780 I don't do a lot of stuff
00:02:07.620 is I have an addictive personality.
00:02:09.080 I know that of myself in case you're a friend of mine
00:02:11.800 and you're like, I wonder if Dan knows
00:02:13.060 he's intense about everything he does.
00:02:14.420 I know that it's why I choose a handful of things
00:02:16.960 I do like business and I go all in, right?
00:02:20.160 Or triathlons and go all in, or, you know,
00:02:23.340 trying to be a great dad or be a great husband.
00:02:25.360 And what happened was, is there was this period
00:02:27.720 of my life where, you know, Renee got pregnant
00:02:32.140 and it was like the first few months
00:02:34.900 and she obviously quit drinking, but I kept drinking.
00:02:37.780 And it was causing a lot of friction in our life.
00:02:40.680 You know, just like, you know, for a lot of people
00:02:44.000 like alcohol doesn't do well with me.
00:02:46.280 When I drink, I drink a lot,
00:02:47.600 and then the next day is a write-off.
00:02:48.900 Sometimes a weekend could be a write-off, right?
00:02:51.060 And I just didn't want that for my life.
00:02:53.500 But the real moment that most people don't know is,
00:02:57.340 we actually went to Bahamas.
00:02:58.600 I wanted to like, you know, give Renee a break. 1.00
00:03:01.440 You know, she was pregnant, she wasn't feeling great,
00:03:03.640 and I had this opportunity through one of my investors
00:03:06.160 to go stay at this incredible property.
00:03:08.740 And we flew all the way to, I think it was Exuma,
00:03:12.660 in the Bahamas, went to this resort.
00:03:15.180 I mean, just out of the park, incredible, you know,
00:03:18.180 like five star, six star hotel,
00:03:20.980 every, you know, villa came with its own golf cart,
00:03:24.180 you know, beautiful white sandy beaches,
00:03:25.920 blue ocean, turquoise water, like just incredible.
00:03:29.380 And first I did, went to liquor store
00:03:31.120 and bought the supplies for a week.
00:03:33.080 And after the first night,
00:03:36.240 I was not proud of the way I behaved, right?
00:03:39.380 Like there was no need for it.
00:03:40.940 I'm there with my wife.
00:03:42.120 I wanna celebrate our life together.
00:03:46.260 I want to give her a break 0.93
00:03:47.680 and all I'm doing is creating stress
00:03:49.380 and she's just upset with me.
00:03:51.460 And I just, I remember in this like moment
00:03:54.380 of looking at like all the things
00:03:57.960 that have happened in my life that were negative
00:04:00.280 based on my drinking over the decades
00:04:03.500 that had gone by since I was a teenager.
00:04:06.280 And I just realized like,
00:04:09.280 I'm about to bring a child into this world
00:04:11.900 and my mom's an alcoholic, okay? 0.51
00:04:13.700 She still is, she's been sober, she's amazing,
00:04:16.380 I love my mom, but I had that in my life,
00:04:18.940 in my family, and I struggled with it.
00:04:21.480 And when I projected out into the future,
00:04:24.680 and I thought of where my life is now,
00:04:27.480 and the possibility of me making a decision,
00:04:30.260 because things were going great, business was going great,
00:04:32.720 financials were going great, health wasn't awesome,
00:04:35.820 but to have a family, startups doing good.
00:04:40.760 Like I just, I thought to myself,
00:04:42.200 like there's a high probability
00:04:44.060 that over the next 25 years, if I keep drinking,
00:04:47.720 that I will probably do something
00:04:50.660 that causes a lot of pain to my life.
00:04:53.160 You know, make a decision to get in a car
00:04:54.740 when I probably shouldn't,
00:04:55.680 or get caught doing something that's compromising
00:04:58.700 or whatever it is, just like be at the wrong place,
00:05:01.180 the wrong people, get in a fight, whatever it is.
00:05:04.020 And I just thought to myself,
00:05:05.180 like I don't wanna bring that level of pain into my family.
00:05:08.740 I just don't want that to be me.
00:05:10.360 And I made a decision, I remember the moment it happened,
00:05:13.340 I was super drunk and I just said, I'm done.
00:05:16.360 And Renee looked at me, she goes, sure.
00:05:19.180 And literally probably had zero belief
00:05:22.560 that it would ever happen.
00:05:23.600 Like she's like, yeah, sure, I've heard this before.
00:05:26.360 He's gonna wake up tomorrow, he's gonna forget about this
00:05:28.040 and he's gonna keep going.
00:05:30.220 And fast forward to today,
00:05:33.900 I know I shared with it earlier,
00:05:35.420 but it's been almost 10 years, okay?
00:05:39.580 Next May will be 10 years
00:05:42.180 that I have not touched a drop of alcohol.
00:05:46.460 It's just not part of who I am.
00:05:48.180 And I share that story because there's some beliefs
00:05:52.400 that I think if you're about to go on this,
00:05:54.800 I don't care if it's any other addiction
00:05:57.520 or just wanting to improve your life
00:06:01.120 that I think could really serve,
00:06:02.700 because I knew that was true for me.
00:06:03.820 And the first one is, it's gotta be deep enough.
00:06:07.100 The pain has to be deep enough.
00:06:09.040 there needs to be enough of a, you're in a hole
00:06:11.460 and there's pain that you wanna change.
00:06:14.380 And I tell this to parents all the time,
00:06:16.360 they're like, oh, my kid's in trouble with the law
00:06:18.180 and I think they're vaping
00:06:19.140 and I think they're doing drugs, they're doing all this stuff.
00:06:20.660 And I was like, does he wanna change?
00:06:23.400 Does she wanna change?
00:06:25.160 Because here's what I've learned,
00:06:26.200 if the pain isn't deep enough,
00:06:28.040 then there's not enough,
00:06:29.820 there's not enough motivation to stop.
00:06:32.320 You know, a lot of people are just living life
00:06:34.140 and it's okay because it's not painful.
00:06:36.680 You know, the people that end up bankrupt,
00:06:38.800 in a car accident, scared, medical, health,
00:06:41.280 like there's a reason why all these stories
00:06:43.660 of incredible transformation
00:06:45.820 started from a moment of despairs
00:06:48.280 because sometimes you need that deep pain
00:06:50.960 to be the ignition, the light, the fuel
00:06:54.840 to get you on a different path.
00:06:56.600 You need to have your reality shaken, right?
00:06:59.840 And just like, whoa, what's going on?
00:07:01.540 Like, oh, that's not what I want for my life.
00:07:03.800 Why am I doing this?
00:07:05.560 And I owe my son, Max, my first born.
00:07:08.660 Like, I don't think if I didn't look at the potential pain
00:07:12.280 that I could create in his life
00:07:13.640 and propagate that normalcy, right?
00:07:18.000 Like this, my mom's parents were alcoholic 0.97
00:07:20.800 and probably her parents were alcoholics.
00:07:22.280 And all I know is that in my family and my personal family,
00:07:26.720 my kids won't experience that.
00:07:28.320 They'll deal with other challenges
00:07:29.920 because so is parenting.
00:07:31.180 But I just wanted to be the generation that broke that.
00:07:35.200 And what was required is the pain had to be deep enough.
00:07:38.800 So sometimes the reason why it's not deep enough
00:07:41.740 is you haven't framed it properly.
00:07:43.220 You keep giving yourself an out.
00:07:44.400 Oh, it's not that bad.
00:07:45.400 Oh, it's okay.
00:07:46.240 Or it could be worse or all these things.
00:07:48.440 That's your story.
00:07:49.460 That's your journey to figure out.
00:07:50.700 I would encourage you to like, allow it to sit.
00:07:52.980 Sit in the pain and don't be so quick to dismiss it.
00:07:56.420 The second thing is, I just had to figure out today.
00:08:00.040 You know, I think my wife was like,
00:08:02.520 Sure, he's quit.
00:08:05.200 Seen that before.
00:08:07.100 But all I told myself is just gotta make it through today.
00:08:10.800 Just today, that's it.
00:08:12.020 I don't have to worry about tomorrow.
00:08:13.140 I don't have to worry about next week.
00:08:14.040 I don't even have to worry about next month.
00:08:14.980 I don't have to worry if people think I'm gonna quit
00:08:16.560 or not or stay sober, I don't care.
00:08:18.380 I'm just gonna focus on today.
00:08:21.080 And that made it so much easier.
00:08:23.680 And I got that from Alcoholics Anonymous.
00:08:25.800 Like this just, I just gotta be sober for today, right?
00:08:28.980 And like when I do my triathlons, you know,
00:08:31.340 I've completed almost five Ironmans in my life.
00:08:34.240 And when I do these like long distance races,
00:08:37.160 you know, running, you know, for 42 kilometers
00:08:40.260 after biking 180 kilometers, after swimming four kilometers,
00:08:43.220 like you're just, your body's depleted.
00:08:45.380 And all I'm looking for is the next telephone pole.
00:08:47.920 I'm not thinking about how many kilometers I got left.
00:08:50.040 I'm not thinking about anything more
00:08:51.380 than the next telephone pole.
00:08:52.940 I'm literally locked in.
00:08:54.100 I see the telephone pole and I'm gonna run to it.
00:08:56.460 And at that moment, I get to decide,
00:08:58.620 do I wanna do it again?
00:09:00.640 Do I wanna go for the next telephone pole moment?
00:09:03.240 And the answer is yes, but I don't overwhelm myself.
00:09:06.920 The same thing with swimming recently.
00:09:09.140 I decided to do, originally I thought
00:09:11.220 it was a five and a half kilometer swim.
00:09:13.040 It turned out to be six and a half kilometers.
00:09:14.760 It took me three hours to do.
00:09:16.460 Longest swim I've ever done in my life.
00:09:17.880 It was across the widest point of this lake
00:09:19.960 I live on called Okanagan Lake.
00:09:22.280 And I just kept saying another 500 meters.
00:09:25.700 I'd look at my watch and I'd just say,
00:09:26.920 look, I'm just committing.
00:09:27.820 My buddy David was on the boat
00:09:29.300 and I was swearing, I was upset,
00:09:30.860 my back was starting to cramp
00:09:31.900 and I was just like, 500 meters, that's it.
00:09:34.680 And we'll reassess.
00:09:36.120 But then eventually I was like,
00:09:37.980 no, we're gonna finish this.
00:09:39.080 It's almost like the momentum starts to get built
00:09:41.580 and once I got more than halfway across the lake,
00:09:44.020 then it was like, no, for sure I'm gonna finish.
00:09:45.760 I mean, even at the end of that swim,
00:09:47.460 I said, hey, I'm not stopping anymore
00:09:49.300 to have a conversation with you.
00:09:50.540 I'm going the next 2000 meters.
00:09:51.800 He's like, I don't think that's a good idea.
00:09:52.880 We should talk.
00:09:53.460 And I'm like, no, I'm going.
00:09:55.480 I'm there, I'm committed.
00:09:56.820 You build momentum,
00:09:57.860 but it starts with just today right and then the other part that really helped me I believe stay
00:10:05.400 sober and and and I say this and it's part of what this this kind of belief is is the identity shift
00:10:11.260 is I don't consider myself an alcoholic right and I know that works for a lot of people but I just
00:10:16.900 don't drink I am not a drinker I do not drink alcohol so because of that I don't have to like
00:10:24.060 think about when I drive by a liquor store,
00:10:25.760 if I'm going to stop and buy some alcohol.
00:10:27.160 I don't think about the things that would come with that.
00:10:30.100 So a lot of people think, you know, when you ask them,
00:10:31.920 it's like, oh, you don't drink.
00:10:33.160 It's like, no, I quit.
00:10:34.460 When people say you don't drink,
00:10:35.640 I say, no, I just don't drink.
00:10:37.360 I just don't.
00:10:38.620 They say, why?
00:10:39.300 I go, oh, I'm allergic to it.
00:10:40.200 It all depends on the context, but I just,
00:10:42.080 I don't really care.
00:10:43.320 I just, I honestly like have gotten to the point
00:10:45.520 where I'm so okay with it.
00:10:47.680 It's like, it doesn't matter.
00:10:48.700 I have non-alcoholic versions of every drink that I enjoy.
00:10:52.400 I know what they are.
00:10:53.480 Most of the bars carry it.
00:10:54.840 I ask them to make it.
00:10:56.360 And it's just not an issue.
00:10:59.060 And to me, those three beliefs that for change to occur,
00:11:04.320 the pain has to be deep enough.
00:11:06.440 The second one is I only have to worry about today
00:11:08.820 or the next kilometer or the next telephone pole, right?
00:11:12.860 And just focus on that and then reassess.
00:11:14.920 And that's all I'm gonna give myself
00:11:16.160 the pressure of achieving.
00:11:19.100 And then finally, the identity shift is that it's,
00:11:21.500 i'm not i didn't quit drinking i don't drink and that shift allows me to kind of re-internalize
00:11:28.460 and re-compartmentalize and restructure my beliefs around who i am and how i behave so
00:11:33.740 that there's no there's no effort there's no pressure there's no weight to those decisions
00:11:38.780 it's just who i am you know there's this great um psychiatrist named carl young okay he's he's
00:11:46.380 like the personality psychiatrist,
00:11:49.980 a lot of people talk to him.
00:11:50.900 And he has this great quote that I think summarizes
00:11:53.320 what I just shared, which is,
00:11:54.900 I'm not what happens to me,
00:11:56.240 I am what I choose to become, right?
00:12:00.880 So it's like, I'm not what happens to me,
00:12:04.180 all like deciding that I shouldn't drink
00:12:06.840 or that I wanna, you know, that I'm overweight
00:12:10.700 or I don't feel good about my situation or whatever it is.
00:12:13.560 It's, that's not who I am,
00:12:15.720 It's who I choose to become, right?
00:12:18.440 So a lot of people, I think they look at their history
00:12:22.380 as their future.
00:12:23.620 Like what they've done in their life at that point
00:12:26.140 is who they will become.
00:12:27.300 I am somebody argues with people.
00:12:29.820 I am angry, I am sad, I am an alcoholic,
00:12:33.280 I'm a drug user, I'm a gambler, I'm an addict, 0.77
00:12:35.180 I'm addicted to video games, porn, whatever it is. 0.90
00:12:39.840 And what I've discovered is as a human,
00:12:42.020 I'm a meaning maker and I get to choose the meaning
00:12:44.520 that I make for stuff.
00:12:45.520 So I choose who I want to become
00:12:47.580 if I give myself permission to do that.
00:12:49.660 And that quote for me really summarizes
00:12:51.740 is that we get the fuel with the deep enough pain,
00:12:54.300 then the small commitments,
00:12:56.020 but give yourself less pressure with the daily,
00:12:59.800 you know, today only.
00:13:01.760 And then finally, the identity shift
00:13:04.600 of that person you wanna become
00:13:06.340 so there's no effort involved because it's just who you are.
00:13:08.700 You are an athlete.
00:13:10.320 You are an epic husband.
00:13:12.280 You are an incredible father.
00:13:13.900 That's your identity.
00:13:15.740 Adopt it, put it on, keep it on, wear it.
00:13:19.620 And eventually, like my buddy Todd Herman likes to say,
00:13:22.820 the alter ego you're playing
00:13:25.620 will eventually become the person who you are.
00:13:27.560 And that is a powerful idea.
00:13:30.020 So I hope this message finds you incredible
00:13:33.020 and that it resonated with you.
00:13:34.260 I wanna hear from you below in the comments.
00:13:35.760 Let me know what connected with you the most.
00:13:38.520 And as per usual, I wanna challenge you
00:13:40.240 to live a bigger life and a bigger business.
00:13:42.740 and I'll see you next Monday.