2025-09-15 - PLAID ARMY
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3 hours and 23 minutes
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150.48904
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118
Summary
Join us as we discuss the events that took place in Niagara Falls on Nov. 19th, 2019. We discuss the loss to the patriots in the patriot march, and the reaction to the events, as well as the upcoming events.
Transcript
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like what are you doing like we're serious about taking our country back
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you're an idiot like what are you doing you're walking around smoking joints cigarettes you know
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kind of just like showing up haphazardly like this isn't a serious movement and this is what
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these people don't understand nobody serious is going to look at what you did and say i want to
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be a part of that that's the thing that they don't seem to understand and i can tell you right now
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what we did two weeks ago right what we were able to demonstrate we have had very serious people
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reach out to us and say okay i was waiting to see what you guys could do i'm in let's go yeah they
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want in now because they saw that there's a degree of professionalism there and people actually taking
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it seriously so now they're ready to jump on they're like finally somebody's you know moving in the right
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direction this i can get on board with so we're going to get more serious and more professional
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and they're just going to keep doing the same you know drunken larp in the park
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that sounds like a punk song drunken larp in the park
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i bet you there will be a song by tomorrow morning oh yeah our ai guys will be on it
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one of the funny thing actually things is too is one of prox daddy's criticism is like you guys just
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went to a park you marched around in a field no we picked a very specific location for a very
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specific reason we went exactly to that location to do a specific ode to a historic figure and left
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that what we did in niagara was exactly what we intended to do it went exactly according to plan
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you had no plan and you completely went off the rails you had no plan of what you were trying to
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achieve that day what what that was supposed to look like none of that you had no idea what you
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were doing we we you look you may not like what we did but at least what we did was exactly what we
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intended there's a lot that has to go into these things location was the biggest problem of what he did
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like he's never ran a problem walking down the streets yelling freedom with other people like
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he did before never had a problem people just ignored him it's exactly because you chose christy
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pitts and now you've switched from your freedom rhetoric that nobody was really paying attention to
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to the hot topic of remigration that other people started he had no he had no idea what he was walking
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into but no do you want to play that i don't know if you already played that video but the video he
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put out challenging us to go here he just lists literally everything he did wrong in a row and then
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he's like why don't you guys go do just all the stupid things that i did you idiots tough guys like
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because we're not dumbasses we're not going to go do something stupid you moron like why would we do that
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like you you walked into a trap you in fact you set a trap for yourself you moron like what were you
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thinking well patriots they don't wear masks yeah i don't know if you saw that one puck daddy loved
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wearing master and kovid so i saw that yeah yeah but i have it right here jerek if you want to mask
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i got it i just wanted to show mass wasn't the only thing you loved during kovid hey guys good
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morning puck daddy 93 here uh i figured i'd uh first off say i hope all is well with everyone i know
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there's a lot going on in the world right now uh with kovid with uh with george floyd uh it's a tough
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time for everyone but uh i know we'll all pull through and uh we'll get back to a new normal
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no no no no no lights are on but oh no it's like the tv is talking out of his mouth isn't it
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yeah but it was actually after just seeing that it's like there's no point this guy is not in it
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for the right reasons he'll shift uh his goal post to whatever makes it seem like he had a victory
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and there's another guy like him who's very irritating and it's very obvious this guy is a
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leftist either you know he's either a grifter or he's he's coming at this from a left and uh leftist
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framing i am robin skies i don't know if you know him yeah he only has yeah he looks he looks like a
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leftist he's got he's got the toque he's got the round korean circle glasses he's got the he's got the
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urban cadence like the triple shot matcha whatever at his local barista he's got that cadence right and
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he he is parroting remigration rhetoric he's getting backlash for it um but then when you press him on
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canadian identity he's like no everyone's canadian everyone can be a canadian i support uh mass
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immigration and mixing with foreign women all this stuff and he just went off and then he deleted his
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post i caught him on it i i reposted him and he deleted it and then he blocked me so yeah he was
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getting into it with a few people i think he got into it with um daniel actually yeah kerry yeah same
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thing yeah he had a couple of good rants on tick tock i think that's where his biggest platform is
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about uh we've got to have a serious conversation about immigration and stuff like that and i think
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new classifications need to come out in canada because liberals aren't liberal conservatives are not
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conservatives like progressive conservative what the fuck is a progressive conservative or have they
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dropped that name completely now no they still use it in ontario so what are we doing like but
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what would you call the positions have changed here those are the new leftists people like joe people like
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robin um hell even brian lily yeah they're the moderate position they're they're the new left
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right they're they're the classical liberals they're the we want to go back to 2003 people and you know
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what i'm okay with that conversation so long as it's between us and them if they are considered the center
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i don't like talking in those terms anyway it should just be rational debate instead of
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right versus left positioning well i mean the and this goes without saying you can actually have a
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conversation with these people you may disagree with them vehemently but they will they may not
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platform you but if you do approach them they will they will have a conversation i'm just gonna say
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that they're not gonna platform us like well they they can't so the the reason why like puck daddy's
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never gonna sit down and talk with anybody that is gonna challenge him like that especially especially
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from our side because we would all make him look like an idiot and the same thing like clyde do something
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is never gonna sit down and debate me bro about something because he'll look like an idiot because
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there's no real substance that backs up his world view and the moment you start being able to go down
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certain you know that uh you know lines of attack against him it's gonna start crumbling
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so this like this happened with trans splendor whenever i was talking with him like you can see
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like like he's a smart guy and he's got like some good values and of course he has some things that
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are right but the moment you start chinking away a little bit at where what his sense of identity is
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and what he believes a canadian is and what he believes canadian you know culture is etc you start
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realizing that there's nothing really there backing it up and it falls apart and you can
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you know demonstrate that like well you may not like my definition of a canadian but i have a firm
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definition that stands up to scrutiny so i enjoyed one of his videos today actually i still still i like
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alex i'm just saying like in that that was a good example of like somebody with a more classical liberal
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perspective like they start to crumble immediately when they're you know subjected to the kind of scrutiny that
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we uh give them the left won't do that obviously but we can so it's really not about the positions
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and and who holds them or who can express them it's about getting a hold of the microphone
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yeah a lot of the time it is yeah now it's funny i watched joe today talk to ctv cbc and a
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whole bunch of them zero substance they're not going to air any of that
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there's another one there actually i said 40 did you make this no no i did not one of my
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schizophrenic followers in my chat made that i was glad i i didn't catch friendly fire with this one
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this is what we're gonna do to leftists when we win we're gonna you know you just know that was a
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zoomer follower too oh yeah no no he's a zoomer thing he's a high test i should derek should show
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the one that somebody made of sewell and hersant oh you send me that one that one is it's it's you
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thought that was disturbing you should see this one that was like holy yeah i had no thoughts on sharing
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that i just thought it was weird as so i know i i showed her sat it he laughed about it i think he
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called them zesty hersant and zesty cool like he thought it was funny but uh i just
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you guys they want to see it are you gonna grab it or should i i i just put it up on the uh the board
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i ran him yeah here we go pretty girls walk like this this this this pretty girls walk like big
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this is horrific you know what you're right i guess because it looks it does look photo realistic like
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this is getting this is getting better this technology yeah the the lip stuff that zesty
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oh it's the facial expressions they even managed to change their like facial expressions you know
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those guys don't have in their repertoire but they're pulling them out
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well it started it started with low quality videos of people like transposing i don't know
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faces onto cats and animals and then this was like two years ago and it just got exponentially better
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horrifically better in an alarming shortly period of time and now it's it's super photorealistic you
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can you can basically fake anything like the the clips i see of rfk saying wild stuff on instagram
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i'm so i'm sorry for saying this but who gives a about fat kids you know it's just stuff like that
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right things that are are uncanny totally uncanny prime target though it's it's funny though because
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people in the you can i can tell the age of people in the chat by how they're reacting to that video
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yeah 100 for some i don't that that video isn't made to mock them it's made because some you know
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dickhead zoomer thinks they're awesome and so he's like i'm gonna make this for them like that's a
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it's a comp it's meant to be complimentary i don't really understand it but i don't really get zoomer
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humor that much so it was look it was built on years of of millennial absurdism like surreal absurd
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humor you think sam hyde people like sam hyde were the were the very catalyst for what would become
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zoomer humor yeah yeah he's almost an architect that guy
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so i don't know if you guys been watching but now the entire conspiracy rumor mill is in full effect
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it's right up to speed they were charlie kirk and his uh and his death it's completely
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and i i don't know where to follow i'm kind of turning it off to it now
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like my concern is that this is all going to get swept under the rug um you know all the leftist
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media outlets are going to try and bury this i don't think they're going to succeed simply because
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there are lists of hundreds of thousands of leftists posting under their real name and addresses
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and and jobs on linkedin about how kirk deserved to die so i don't i don't think they're going to be
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able to to uh sweep this under the rug but it seems that they're trying there's like three narratives
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running right now there's one about the gruypers there's some funny jokes about nick they're like
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well i could have seen that coming he was a griper he had a he had a trans girlfriend trans boy
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anyway um yeah and then the other one is like he was a republican
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it's just very strange projection stuff right just very strange um inversions they're trying to flip the
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narrative and i'm not sure where it's going to go i'm a little shocked at how quickly his wife came
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out to speak and i'll be honest that was a very strange video of her kissing his hand and saying i
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love you and stuff like that maybe i'm just maybe i'm old and i wouldn't do that i wouldn't oh they're
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they're they're very much politicizing it yeah they're very they're very much and they're and i
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guess in in a twisted kind of cynical you know power politics way they're smart to do that they're
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smart to politicize the situation even if it is a little bit gauche i i do agree um but what what
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struck me and what was surprising to me is that when this happens there is an entire department there's an
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there's a an armed um department of of federal law enforcement in the us i forget what they're called
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but basically they give people scripts it's whenever like uh a black criminal kills a white kid or
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something like that or does some horrific thing and this department will roll up to your house and
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give you a script to tell the media to disarm the situation to soft intentions in the community
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um and they didn't do this now part partly because she's the wife of of a of a massive conservative
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commentator uh so maybe they couldn't get to her maybe there were you know prominent voices around
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her saying don't listen to these people you know um but i i'm surprised that there were no calls
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for unity even from the president the the president is like no actually let's get these people out
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he takes that fire these people get them out of the military get them fired take their jobs away
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take their six-figure salaries and their office jobs i also gotta admit with like trump acting a
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little weird too dancing at the hockey game after he shot like yeah i don't know if him and charlie
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kirk are close close but apparently apparently they were at least trump uh trump there's a lot of
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videos there of trump saying how much he loves charlie yeah yeah i don't know just little weird
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things that are going on because now the dust is starting to settle it's mm-hmm i don't know trump
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trump has many sons right like he's got he's got uh don jr and he's got the other guy um forget his i'm so
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sorry to eric is it eric look unfortunately don jr took the spotlight right he's the eldest son
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you know eric might look like him but he doesn't have he doesn't have the fire um but but i do notice
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that trump seems to be very grandfatherly to a number of these conservative guys like charlie
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seems to have been one of them yeah absolutely yeah cocaine rib job says uh well well well if
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isn't that baguette twirling poutine lover fortisax
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community relations somebody pointed that out that's what they're called that department of the
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of the federal law enforcement community relations so this is like a coordinated psyop group they go
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back to like the civil rights revolution like in the 60s and all they do is give grieving parents a
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script they take advantage of them in emotionally contentious situations after experiencing horrific
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trauma pdsd loss grief um and they coach them through this they're like you're not going to say
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anything that could stoke racial tensions and they will hide the truth they'll try they'll try to sweep
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the truth under the rug right get the parents to uh um you know betray their loss i mean you've seen a lot
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of that the only real speech i've seen after somebody's death was american history x
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no but everybody else has always called for unity you're right
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well that's just it and the calls for unity in these situations are almost entirely fabricated they're fake
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they're they're purposefully state-run for propagandistic reasons
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they they will never advocate for p like look whenever the the best example of this is i can't
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even was it the manchester bombing the manchester stadium bombing or arena bombing and the whole thing
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was don't look back in anger right like that was the messaging that they pushed don't look back in
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anger have you ever seen them do that whenever it's uh you know left-wing uh attacks or something
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like that where it's something like a right do you ever hear you know the media go like we need to
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you know heal this process no no they they use it to absolutely mobilize as much of their forces as they
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can to press and politicize the issue as much as they can like they don't they don't do this
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fucking nonsense where they try to like calm everybody down and not politicize the situation they do the
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exact opposite no take the take the example of that guy that that anti-racist activist who was stabbed
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to death on his walk home with his girlfriend uh not only did she stand by and watch him get stabbed
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to death by this black criminal uh but uh she politicized his death she used it to increase her clout
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and to preach the message of anti-racism right this guy's body is warm bleeding out on the sidewalk
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she refused to talk to the police about what had happened she refused to get the guy convicted
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or easily convicted with her testimony so they absolutely do that they they will politicize
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that every single issue or every single situation they get they will use against us
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exactly so this is like i i used to say this to people all the time because like we obviously do this
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we understand what the game is and i don't think conservatives do which is if you don't politicize
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these issues if you just let them be used you know to like happen again and again without um you know
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actually attempting to use that anger yeah cap like capitalize that is the correct word is like what
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i mean it's it's kind of morbid but that's the truth but to say that you shouldn't is to do a
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disservice to the victims because all you're doing is ensuring that another one is going to happen
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so when they say oh they're trying to politicize the south port stabbings it's like you're goddamn right
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we are you you're goddamn right we are you politicize george floyd a fucking drug addict you know criminal
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who died of a fentanyl overdose you're goddamn right that we're going to politicize the deaths of three young
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girls at the hands of some fucking nog you're goddamn right we are we're going to keep doing this
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until we get the change that we want because these incidents keep happening don't they it's interesting
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that that happens in the united states and you can see that it's a an actual coordinated office that
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takes care of that thing but here in canada it's the opposite they go right to the media outlets
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themselves and they have spin doctors that work for them oh yeah and uh you they don't get the
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microphone the victims they don't get to speak out no well also canadian the the canadian media
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ecosystem is so much more centralized it's so much more centralized and i would say that i would say
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that kind of this consensus culture consensus based culture um plays into this as well so even if
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even if you know maybe in the off chance there is a a grieving parent who wants to talk about it they
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may not in fact i i'd even argue that there's probably plenty of libtard canadians who would
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be more than happy to not stoke anything right or or be afraid of speaking out or or expressing how
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they truly feel in order to not stoke attentions without any kind of arm of the government to
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encouraging them like i just i know you've seen this for you but i i'd like to i feel like this is
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relevant right now because this just came out i guess today um in the uk morgoth posted this earlier and it's
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like here's here's the example of how the left approaches propaganda as you know there's just
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been a major assassination of a right-wing figure right and they've celebrated his death and then
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you can look and see at how they're approaching you know uh the uh temperature of of the the room and
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and what let's let's take a look and see if the left is trying to you know turn the heat down you know
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let's you know dial this back not crank up the hysteria not crank up the fear do you guys think
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that that's the approach they took or or what i mean it's pretty obvious that that's not but let's
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no it's just this is just awesome so like i laughed so hard at this yeah british hell divers
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sorry there's a darkness coming it's already swallowed america and now it's coming for us too
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in 2019 we protested against donald trump and we thought if we shout loud enough maybe he'll go away
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now he's back on september 17th donald trump comes back to britain and the fight for our future comes
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to parliament square and how our nation reacts that day decides everything about our future
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residents along the thames woke this morning to find a giant banner draped across tower bridge
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complaints have been launched but there's no response from the government yet the establishment
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is rolling out the red carpet for trump all while he funnels wealth to billionaires funds a literal
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genocide and is spreading global fascism and to honor him now is to normalize all of that
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and it drags us further into the abyss some say woke we say weakness they call it diversity
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i fight for the british defense league now i'm asking you stand with me patriots together keeping
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britain pure so hard we have racism off the leash up and down our country hate preachers driving mobs
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down our street people it's time to get real a government that will bow down to trump and to
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racism is one that will open the door to fascism but we have time we just need to get organized so
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show up on the 17th but sign up right now we are gonna build a movement we simply have to
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liverpool and birmingham are in flames tonight as masked pdl officers detain hundreds under the home
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security act ministers say it's to protect so holy moly britains but campaigners say people are vanishing
00:45:34.860
without a trace we've got to show them britain will never bow to fascism we do not bow to donald trump
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we've seen the future that they have lined up for us and we say that we are making our own
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you're gonna be saying a lot more than that i promise you i thought it was bonnie blue at first
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okay so uh there's three things i noticed about that video i didn't actually watch the whole thing
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so thank you for uh for pointing it out um if you notice in the first few seconds she almost like this
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is an act she's she's playing like neurotic she's playing like a little bit antsy a little bit anxious
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you know there's like a tension in the air she's like stuttering a little bit music like music and the
00:46:23.100
sound effects that okay so that's like number one number one she's like faking she's like faking
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her concern she's faking her anxiety and the second that i want to impress upon the people who just
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watched that is um the left has always larped as the resistance even though starmer is full-throated
00:46:40.860
in support of them even though the entire british system is in support of antifa or of the leftists
00:46:46.860
there of the labor party all of these groups work hand in glove with the starmer government uh and with
00:46:53.100
with mi5 with with all of these intelligence agencies in the united kingdom um but their
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rhetoric is always the establishment the establishment of the establishment and this is because leftists
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are in a permanent frame of revolution they're in a permanent state of revolution where they can never
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accept that they have completely and totally co-opted every lever of actionable power within a nation
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state and that's it's just fascinating to see and number three is as you said very uh they
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they their reaction to trump is and to the kirk thing is to just double down yeah it's it's to
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not even try to to smooth over tensions it's to not take a step back and say hey you know maybe we can
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talk well maybe we can talk this out not not so hasty not so hasty right winger so they they've just
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you know charlie kirk was just assassinated ostensibly because he was a fascist
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right that was the the the reason i mean that's the official reason why he was killed by
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tyler robbins i'm not going to get into the conspiracy theories of it i'm just going to
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for now go by the official story just because that's so that's the official story right and
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the reason i'm doing that is because that is the official story and that's what they're you know
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responding to as well like the left is responding to that being the official story as well and what's
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their response to it well let's just call everybody in the country a fascist who disagrees with us
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after a very prominent fascist has just been assassinated and then his his murder was justified
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by countless leftists by basically everybody who's you know left of center left like there is like look
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there is some liberals some you know center left type figures that are obviously condemning it and saying
00:48:34.540
we need to dial this back but for the most part um the left is celebrating it or at least not not
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condemning it or disavowing it so um like it's they are the ones that are ramping up the temperature and
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ramping up the rhetoric and the hostility towards us and then they feign like we're we're trying to kill
00:48:54.220
them like we are going to kill you right yeah it's manifesting itself it's like it's unavoidable
00:49:00.860
yeah that's true like this is a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point it's like their actions
00:49:05.740
are going to ensure that at some point this comes to some kind of loggerheads and um like look i i
00:49:12.540
think that the left in many respects is always ahead of the right in that the reason why they've spent
00:49:18.540
the last 80 years calling everybody who disagrees with them a nazi or a fascist is because they know
00:49:24.780
that in order to beat them you are going to have to at least embrace aspects of fascism or
00:49:30.460
national socialism and so they've gotten out ahead of it and said like we're just going to label you
00:49:34.620
all these things and and you know paint it as evil and therefore put you in a position where the only
00:49:39.100
thing that you can do to defeat us is embrace you know the pinnacle of evil ideologies like that's
00:49:44.860
the framing that they've done and so they that's what has to happen unfortunately well they also
00:49:51.020
believe too that like conclusively that normal things family norms the patriarchy normal family
00:49:58.220
dynamics marriage all of these institutions are themselves obstructive and fascist um you know
00:50:04.700
they they view these as obstacles for the proletariat to overcome although of course they're race
00:50:10.940
communists they're not traditional communists but it doesn't you know it doesn't make a difference so
00:50:14.540
they they view these things as well as intrinsically fascist so for even a moderate conservative like
00:50:18.940
kirk you're just a fascist everything is fascism everything is is the supreme evil is the absolute evil
00:50:24.620
that has to be uh has to be destroyed and there's another point i want to make out too which is like
00:50:29.100
uh there's a meme floating around on x which is like the left makes the best right-wing propaganda
00:50:34.860
and it's like yeah by aping british hell divers and mass deportations with the home defense act you
00:50:40.940
really think that disenfranchised zoomers are not like hell yeah you think they're not going to be
00:50:45.660
like hell yeah when they see that video of that dude looking like he airdropped from orbit and he's ready
00:50:51.500
to kill bugs like what what do you you know what i mean you're you're you're saying that the the
00:50:56.700
right is is all it's all about fraternity masculine energy vitality uh who is this for right the women
00:51:06.220
that they chose to speak their their message one looked like a ghoul and the other one i said looked
00:51:11.660
like bonnie blue in her 40s well the the one i don't even know if that was real or ai to be honest the
00:51:16.940
the the so the brown lady i don't think that i i maybe that's acting but a lot of that video was
00:51:23.980
probably ai so i don't i don't really know how even legit that video was but it's funny because
00:51:30.940
when i first saw this uh just like i don't know it was like less than an hour ago or something
00:51:35.980
um like it was 40 you had posted it and all you had posted was the image of the hell diver right and i saw
00:51:43.740
that and i was like that looks awesome like that was my response like i hadn't seen the video i had
00:51:49.420
no context i was just like that looks so cool and then i see the actual video and i'm like oh my god
00:51:54.780
this is amazing like just let's just watch it again so i'm sorry what he said they call it diversity
00:52:01.980
we call it dilution i fight for the british defense league now i'm asking you stand with me patriots
00:52:07.980
together keeping britain pure keep it this is like warhammer 40k rhetoric and you think this is
00:52:14.300
not going to be appealing to a bunch of angry pissed off young men come on they nailed it like
00:52:21.260
i hope they make a full-length feature film with that guy in it like the master chief from halo or
00:52:27.420
yeah they don't get it like um that's not scary to us that's like um a godsend to us like it's like
00:52:41.580
what they try to do with ice in the states and they're like they're rounding up mexican illegal
00:52:45.900
immigrants at at school graduation ceremonies like that's supposed to scare us and i'm like
00:52:50.300
they're really going that hard that's amazing like you have every chat in the comments posting like
00:52:57.580
got what i voted for again award yeah like they don't i don't think they realize um oh maybe they
00:53:06.220
do and that's why they're so hysterical but this kind of rhetoric doesn't work on on anybody anymore
00:53:14.060
uh except for your own side no and they have a long history of of accidentally doing this right like
00:53:22.140
you remember that scene in american history x where ryan gosling goes off script and he talks
00:53:25.980
about deracination talks about like that was not scripted gosling did it and they presented these
00:53:31.500
rational and reasonable arguments for the purpose of appearing insane to anybody at the time in the 90s
00:53:37.500
and early 2000s who were actually watching these films and that's not the only example like starship
00:53:41.820
troopers was a parody which is really funny starship troopers the movie was a parody of a book that
00:53:46.860
was a good faith argument by a leftist trying to envision an ideal right-wing society so firstly
00:53:54.060
they screwed that up by by making the starship troopers movie but then everyone who saw that was
00:53:58.060
like hell yeah this is awesome starship troopers is awesome hell yeah citizens stratocracy sign me up
00:54:06.060
right yeah well that's what's interesting uh about blair was talking about this like in a
00:54:12.620
in order for uh a society to exist or to get along you have to have a common enemy
00:54:19.180
and that's where it's harder for us because our enemies are not common there's a bunch of different
00:54:26.700
grievances that everybody's looking at and that's why you see these hodgepodge
00:54:30.300
fucking rallies of i'm protesting this i hate this i hate that instead of being
00:54:36.780
what fairy's been pushing for a long time pro something yes knowing your world view and
00:54:42.300
being confident about it this is the gist of what's been wrong with the canadian right for so wrong
00:54:49.900
so wrong there's nothing affirmative there's nothing affirmative there is no positive vision
00:54:57.420
and so they're not really conserving anything but a failed version of liberalism from 20 years ago
00:55:02.860
yeah exactly it's their version of liberalism it's what did we say before everybody has to go except
00:55:11.180
for the people i like and that just doesn't make sense my smoking hot filipina wife right that's so
00:55:20.140
there is oh man i was gonna go off on something there now just slip me it'll come back in a second
00:55:29.500
oh god damn it yeah i've seen everybody that's gotten in front of these mics that whatever kind
00:55:33.580
of movement that they're trying to do and they always preach a liberalist view we all get together
00:55:38.380
and we get along we're not racist anybody can come here you just got to do it the right way
00:55:43.740
the right way has been hijacked where have you been what's always been frustrating to me at least
00:55:51.100
rhetorically has always been and i know this is going to set very off because it sets me off when
00:55:55.980
they say things like they're just trying to divide us it's like brother yes we were never unified
00:56:03.900
we were never united what are you talking about they're just trying to divide us all the races to
00:56:09.100
fight each other so that they can take control brother what are you talking about the the thing
00:56:15.660
i was going to say is one of the things that i find irritating about what's going on right now in the
00:56:21.180
wake of the charlie kirk thing is that there's a lot of look there's a lot of right-wingers out there
00:56:26.380
that can't for some reason can't see their own hypocrisy and so while i agree that you should a hundred
00:56:33.900
percent politicize the kirk's murder and you should absolutely try to get shit libs fired from their
00:56:39.980
jobs i don't care if they're a pensioner working out walmart like if they if they're doing this
00:56:45.020
you should be doxing them to their employers and getting them fired i don't care um they they would
00:56:50.300
do it to you like this absolutely you have to at some point meet fire with fire but the thing that i
00:56:56.620
find kind of frustrating about it is i saw a lot of people saying things like oh i can't believe how
00:57:01.420
little they value they have for human life and it's like you do that too except for you're way
00:57:06.700
better at understanding you know the friend enemy distinct so you're way uh less um versed in the
00:57:15.660
friend enemy distinction than the left is and so the example that i've used with people when i'm trying
00:57:20.860
to explain this is like you know whenever one of those migrant boats goes down in the mediterranean
00:57:26.220
or crossing the english channel and 20 some people die and everybody is going like oh great news
00:57:32.380
finally some good news or they're celebrating or they're like thanks poseidon like they're doing this
00:57:38.060
like you guys we do this too like i don't i don't understand like you sell like who doesn't celebrate
00:57:45.820
when their enemies die and that's what you don't understand is they're not looking at charlie kirk
00:57:50.780
like he's a person with a family they're looking at him like he's an enemy soldier and that's how
00:57:56.620
you have to look at these people you're in a war there's a friend and enemy distinction and you sell
00:58:04.700
like in war you celebrate when your enemies are dead so as much as like they want to take this high
00:58:10.780
road it's like i see i've seen so many people doing this thing where they act disgusted by the fact that
00:58:16.300
the left is celebrating this and it's like you do the same if trudeau got off today how many of the
00:58:22.780
people do you think you know like if trudeau was was hit with a bullet in the neck the way kirk was
00:58:28.620
at a university campus in canada how many of the people who were condemning for celebrating kirk's
00:58:34.620
murder would be going finally someone did it amazing he got exactly exactly because you under you
00:58:42.140
do understand the friend and he distinction when it's put in that context i've never looked at it
00:58:46.780
that way that no it's true it's good look it's good when we do it it's bad when you do it exactly
00:58:53.100
and so this is what i'm trying to say is like don't paint yourself into this position like understand
00:58:59.500
that this is the psychology at play here where the reason that you're disgusted by their reaction
00:59:04.780
is because you view charlie kirk as maybe not even a friend but as somebody who's adjacent to you
00:59:11.420
right he's on your side generally and they killed him and that's why and they're celebrating it
00:59:17.740
because they see him as an enemy and you feel like about it because you understand that regardless of
00:59:23.660
whether you agreed on everything he they killed him because they viewed him as one of yours
00:59:29.260
so i'm i'm just i'm not saying like obviously leverage this and obviously point out the the obvious
00:59:35.660
that these people are disgusting and i'm not even trying to make a one-to-one comparison like charlie
00:59:40.700
kirk is as bad as justin trudeau he's obviously not or like pick any lid but understand that the
00:59:47.420
the that that sense of morality is subjective and the reason why they're celebrating it is because
00:59:53.180
they view him as the embodiment of evil the same way that you view trudeau as an embodiment of evil
00:59:59.580
so you nailed it like because i i actually pictured what it would be like with trudeau getting shot and
01:00:04.220
yeah i would have been fine with that you would have celebrated you would have celebrated you would
01:00:09.820
have been a video saying finally somebody did it this is amazing like well i don't know if it would
01:00:16.060
have gone that far with a video but i would have done at least i'm not surprised we would have we
01:00:21.580
would have come on stream and we would have said he got exactly what he deserved wouldn't we mind you
01:00:29.100
it might be a one for yeah like you're saying it's not a one-for-one comparison because charlie
01:00:33.020
kirk didn't have any bearing of laws over people's lives but i get the comparison you're making like
01:00:39.500
look and i get that some some people are very honest when they say like i would never do that
01:00:45.260
for anybody like i would never sell and you're you mean it you genuinely mean it and i believe you
01:00:50.060
but i'm just saying there's a lot of people going around doing this high horse where
01:00:55.020
they're trying to act like they're i wouldn't i have value for human life you have value for your human
01:01:00.940
life you're human there's a huge difference in the same way like look how many of the people that
01:01:07.340
are like i know that it's like a meme but how many of the people that are condemning the left for their
01:01:12.460
callous disregard of charlie kirk's life have said things like if i had three nukes i'd nuke india three
01:01:19.260
times yeah do you see what i'm saying like how many of them are like if i had three nukes i would nuke
01:01:26.940
israel three times right like that they say stuff like that all the time and then you know they're
01:01:31.900
they have the audacity to then turn around and go like oh these these disgusting leftists they
01:01:37.020
you know they're they're so callous and they have no regard for life you're you're a liar like at least
01:01:42.700
i have i like look maybe i'm not a great person but i have the ability to admit that like i i would
01:01:48.220
celebrate if a lot of my enemies died i don't care like they're my enemies now there's also uh an
01:01:54.860
interesting angle and i've been talking about this recently which is it's on morality and on
01:02:00.460
the friend enemy distinction the reason that this is possible and the reason that this is happening
01:02:05.660
is actually because of the left the left created a society where there is no dominant moral paradigm
01:02:11.660
that everyone has to follow there is no values consensus that everyone follows and adheres to which
01:02:17.500
is why you can't trade zingers with leftists like it was the 90s over a beer and you know pat each
01:02:24.060
other on the back and go home to your wives and kids at the end of the day at the end of your
01:02:27.660
heated debate that doesn't we don't live in that world anymore because they've deconstructed it
01:02:32.380
because leftists believe that you're made of stardust on a rock floating in space and nothing matters
01:02:37.740
and morality is subjective so they have they don't even have justifications for why racism is bad if you
01:02:43.340
ask them like where why is racism bad why is sexism bad why is misogyny bad because i'm not an idiot
01:02:48.780
well exactly right so it it's all it's all consensus based uh bullshit it's all subjective
01:02:56.540
it's all arbitrary you have to treat them accordingly you have to treat them like the relativistic
01:03:02.460
materialistic people that they are which is that anything that they believe is good and anything you
01:03:07.420
believe is bad and that's that it is unfortunate it is what it is it is a sign of a crumbling culture
01:03:13.260
and a crumbling society where there is no longer a common shared value system um but that's where we
01:03:18.460
are this this is a good one too which is this is a fair point which which is i wouldn't record myself
01:03:25.820
celebrating and put it on social media yeah so this this is a great observation not just because
01:03:31.740
yeah that's true a lot of people who would like secretly be very happy about it are not stupid enough
01:03:36.540
to do that or you know gaudy enough to do that but the the one thing here too is this is a just an
01:03:43.900
interesting aspect of this which is leftists have exposed their arrogance to the point where they
01:03:48.940
thought they could get away with anything they thought they could go on social media with their
01:03:52.940
real face and their real name with their employment on like you know links their linkedin account linked
01:03:58.780
to the social media account that they're on and be like ha ha ha kirk is dead ha ha
01:04:04.700
fuck you fuck fascism like they're celebrating it it's like you you were very overconfident about
01:04:11.180
uh your your position in this situation because now you're fired like you you severely underestimated
01:04:18.300
um you know how much people have disdain for you at this point so yeah but they they don't have any
01:04:25.980
self-awareness and there's a there's a test that i would recommend everybody try this out if you're ever
01:04:30.780
in a in a situation where you know the people are around you are leftist don't say anything don't
01:04:36.140
uh don't make any political comments let them go off they assume everyone around them is a psychotic
01:04:41.900
sociopath just like them they assume everyone is a leftist you will hear the most terrifying
01:04:47.020
ho scaring sociopathic stuff that you will never ever believe come out of a normal person's mouth the
01:04:53.020
things that they will say about right-wingers about conservatives even the most mild ones what should
01:04:57.820
happen to them or their families is absurd it's just outstanding so they're completely completely
01:05:03.900
ignorant they have no idea that they're not actually the majority and the consensus they think that they
01:05:09.100
are um and and this this is part of their arrogance they they think that everyone thinks like them
01:05:14.620
seriously go into a coffee shop pretend to work on a laptop and just let them mouth off just just pipe
01:05:21.020
down and and you know listen in on their conversation it'll it will shock you well you see this i heard
01:05:26.700
multiple people come up to me and talk about their workplace like i had a guy tell me this today that
01:05:31.580
he in his workplace in the lunchroom they're like yeah he kind of deserved it he was a fascist
01:05:37.020
yeah yeah they think that they can just say that openly in their place imagine if i said that about
01:05:42.620
some leftist getting killed like well he kind of deserved he's a fucking commie like do you think
01:05:47.260
or like george floyd imagine if i walked into my lunchroom you know on whatever it was june 1st 2020 and
01:05:55.020
said well he was a fentanyl addict in a career criminal and he abused a he assaulted a pregnant
01:06:00.380
woman he kind of got what was coming to him do you think that would have gone i would have been in hr
01:06:04.940
in 30 seconds exactly for those the full the full might of of that managerial structure would come
01:06:12.940
down upon you you'd be gone you wouldn't even have time to make your case to hr because even even
01:06:18.300
in companies or even in jobs that have hr departments there's a formal process for firing there's
01:06:23.420
performance improvement plans something like that forget it you have no protections even if you're
01:06:28.940
late if you're union the union's going to sell you out right they will weaponize every every tool
01:06:34.940
possible to get you out of there to ruin your life you know off the books they're going to relay your
01:06:40.300
personal information to more of their psychotic leftists and then dox you like they're they're like
01:06:44.780
that right um and that's what many people are telling me too they're like i went to the i was in the
01:06:49.900
lunchroom my libtard co-worker started mouthing off about charlie kirk and about how he deserved
01:06:55.980
it and how they hope tucker carlson or matt walsh or orrin mcintyre or any of these other people get
01:07:02.460
it next right and like they they think that they can just say these things with impunity and i think
01:07:06.860
that that is changing i think this week is has permanently vibe shifted uh further to the right
01:07:13.820
i just want to mention a couple of super chats before we get too carried away here
01:07:17.900
uh rub tub says canada's history is more important today than ever yeah that's why you got to pay
01:07:23.980
attention to uh fortisac space on uh sunday afternoon so i think barry said he was going to
01:07:30.060
be starting one up on friday nights are you doing saturday nights and fort fortisac might join me for
01:07:35.100
that which would be great oh yeah i'd love to i think that'd be great we'd all benefit from that i i went
01:07:41.900
i had a busy day unfortunately i didn't get to catch the great canadian flag debate they'll
01:07:46.700
try to listen to that at some point this week that that 40 did earlier today but uh i was busy
01:07:52.940
i had to go to like i got a new desk i got a new chair i went to ikea like a married you know a couple
01:07:59.020
me and myself you know i walked around i i sat on i tried it out and then i did four
01:08:05.180
four four recruiting interviews today guys four in one day be a man build yourself yeah you should
01:08:13.180
build yourself a desk be a man i don't have time for that uh also uh diago weems says why does antifa
01:08:23.100
act like the original christy pitts riot was a win for them the jews got their asses kicked by the
01:08:28.780
italians back in the day didn't they now what i did a a stream on this it's uh debatable because
01:08:36.380
the propaganda that cbc and heritage canada and like that put out is always in favor of
01:08:42.940
of the newcomers and right but you can find a few documentaries out there that are the opposite
01:08:49.260
they're like yeah those dagos and kikes were coming at people with knives so people start coming
01:08:53.740
out of their house it's it's wild some of the that i watched on it like the mix and patty's
01:09:00.620
all came out out of the houses with pipes they grabbed anything they could and sent them right
01:09:05.180
back to where they came from like there's some good stuff on there so it's all who gets to paint
01:09:10.540
the narrative right well it doesn't it doesn't really matter does it because christy pitts 2.0 went
01:09:17.340
to antifa like decisively not even close dude they'll do documentaries on that too 10 people got arrested
01:09:28.460
and they chased the nazis far-right protesters out of the park
01:09:33.260
yeah uh brian 7316 says did you guys see that there's a book on amazon the shooting of charlie
01:09:40.140
which was released on september 9th the day before his murder yeah i don't know what to think of that
01:09:45.340
that could be somebody just trying to steal the title before the book's even written and selling
01:09:49.820
it type thing or you know people do these things with ai now where they can write an entire book
01:09:57.340
and so long as you click that on uh on amazon they don't care they'll just
01:10:02.140
put a little tag on it says that it was helped with ai
01:10:06.140
well that's because the publishing industry is dead you walk into any bookstore you walk into
01:10:10.940
barnes and noble you walk into chapters everything is slop it's slop and it's smut and it's ai generated
01:10:17.420
it's garbage yeah like reading is already dead it is for it caters to very specific demographics
01:10:23.500
i think it was john carter who posted this like massive uh spreadsheet that like since since 1985
01:10:31.660
close to zero white male authors have been published with their fiction so basically the last
01:10:39.340
35 to 40 years uh of fiction has just been leftist slop and it's been this way for a long time and
01:10:47.980
ai writing appeals to those people ai writing appeals to midway it look it appeals to the i am robin skies
01:10:55.180
right you could you could make a an ai book tomorrow and this guy it would sell off the shelves he would
01:11:01.100
he would take it he'd be like this is the best thing i've ever read this is the best biography on charlie
01:11:05.260
kirk ever made hey i don't understand ai i get ai for like look like i really actually like the ai
01:11:14.620
google thing like when you search something on google now it gives you like this ai breakdown
01:11:20.140
like that's kind of useful because there's like good information right if especially if it's just like
01:11:25.100
factual information where there's no like what is this like what is this thing and then it'll break
01:11:31.820
it down and you know it's good info that way i don't get it though i don't get the appeal of the
01:11:36.940
the arts i don't get the appeal of you know asking grok every other second you know what to think or
01:11:43.980
what this means what this mean grok i don't get it it's like why do you want to be told from a machine
01:11:49.820
what to think i don't get it well it's worse because those machines are trained on billions and billions of
01:11:56.780
reddit comments so you're getting the most mid-witted takes imaginable with ai i you know
01:12:01.660
what i actually have a theory that i think that grok is being tailored at least to some degree to
01:12:08.780
the person asking the question i think that one of the the really creepy things about ai is that at
01:12:14.940
some point and it might be doing this already i suspect that grok actually is doing this because
01:12:20.300
two people can ask grok the same question and get a completely different answer so why is that
01:12:25.020
happening and the only rational like like you know i can think for that is grok is taking into account
01:12:32.540
who is asking it the question it's reading that person's profile information it's getting a gauge
01:12:38.780
of what why they are asking the question and then it's providing a response that they will
01:12:44.860
be amenable to with the you know in the reasoning for that would be like so that you continue using it
01:12:50.940
because if grok continues giving you answers that you don't want then you're going to stop using it
01:12:57.100
but if it tailors its response to you and what you want to hear then it's going to give you something
01:13:02.220
so yeah like people are saying they agree with this in the comments but i i've just observed that
01:13:07.180
like i've seen people ask it the exact same question and get a completely different answer so
01:13:11.180
like how is that that doesn't make sense um no yeah well grok specifically is trained off of the
01:13:18.620
millions and millions of comments on twitter every single day i'm not sure what the purpose
01:13:24.300
of grok ai is in the long run or if it's some kind of like info scraper for palantir or something
01:13:30.540
but uh yeah it is interesting in that it operates differently from gpt because at least
01:13:35.980
like gpt is hard-coded to be leftist gpt has the most obnoxious guidelines will sanitize and leave
01:13:43.740
out information even when conducting research sometimes like i'll compile a series of pdfs
01:13:49.340
from from these different books that are like a hundred years old on canadian history um and when
01:13:53.740
i ask it to provide a summary so that i can use them for notes in a space or a talk or an interview
01:13:59.580
or something like that it will leave out spicy details it will leave out things that are incriminating
01:14:05.500
that go against the kind of leftist bias um but i i don't know i guess with gpt at least you know
01:14:11.020
where you're where you're standing it's kind of openly uh it's kind of openly leftist whereas grok
01:14:16.460
will tailor an answer specifically to you almost in a very disingenuous fashion yeah exactly
01:14:24.140
ai is really just the new encyclopedia britannica i guess the easiest way i could summarize that too with
01:14:31.180
grok is that if you look at it you can tell that it's trying to please like that's that's such a
01:14:37.100
weird thing but you can kind of see in its responses that it's trying to give the person what it wants
01:14:42.380
to at least to a certain extent obviously they have some you know uh you know rail guards in in place
01:14:49.260
to make sure that it doesn't go completely off the rails but it just you can tell by the types of
01:14:55.180
responses it gives it's tailoring it now there's another this is a schizo theory and i think that
01:15:01.100
maybe derek would would appreciate this but there's i mean there's there's two schizo theories one of
01:15:05.660
them is a sub theory uh dead internet theory dead internet theory is the idea that there are millions
01:15:13.100
upon millions of dead web pages and inaccessible broken links through uh search engines things like
01:15:20.540
google things like yahoo bing all of these so the reason you only get i don't know maybe 9 or 10 or
01:15:25.900
15 pages on google is because there actually is nothing past that and that ai was designed to be
01:15:31.980
able to accommodate and search through and parse through all of this information to actually find
01:15:37.740
information and the of course the sub theory to that is that ai is actually just indians we don't have
01:15:43.900
dead internet theory we have we have indian internet theory and this is this is empirical because from
01:15:51.580
like 2010 to now the internet has 700 million more indians than it did 15 years ago yeah think about
01:16:01.020
that it's like that just have you seen that disturbing stat it's like every second 30 seconds 30 indians
01:16:07.180
come online for the first time have you noticed how quickly the internet has become slop though since
01:16:14.460
they've come on you can add tick tock to being part of those uh contributing factors but yeah a lot of
01:16:21.660
has come out of india well that you see that on twitter like it's gotten to the point where
01:16:28.700
you know you like the all of those slop accounts that are just like what do you think about this and
01:16:36.140
it's like some video of africa or like what do you think about this and i don't know it's just
01:16:40.300
like rent it's all just jeets trying to monetize twitter like they had i mean this is why they had to
01:16:45.500
address that yeah we should sequester the jeets from the hive mind let's be honest
01:16:54.620
they can only pollute it look i'm telling you we got to cut the undersea cables yes okay we we
01:17:00.140
unironically have to cut the undersea cables and leave them in the dark the indians have to be
01:17:04.460
removed from the internet and i have to give credit to andrew torba because at least on
01:17:09.660
what's this platform called gab gab at least on gab indian ips are banned this guy banned like every
01:17:17.340
third world ip address from his website so only westerners can use it
01:17:21.500
uh oh draw fork thank you he says the darkness coming is naggers sand naggers and jeets
01:17:38.220
you gotta wonder if trump really did order a nuclear submarine to hit the undersea cables and that's why
01:17:43.580
uh india was cut off the entire subcontinent and like bengal and parts of pakistan makes sense like
01:17:56.380
how how is it described before like i know their biggest export is just indians
01:18:00.700
they're uh does anyone know what india produces sorry can anyone in the chat
01:18:10.540
name something that india produces something that india contributes indians do they do they produce media
01:18:17.580
are you aware of any indian films are you aware of any indian music
01:18:21.180
how dare you are we produce ceos and confident executives how dare you
01:18:33.500
right but nobody outside of like the middle east watches bolly that's not true we watch it all the
01:18:38.140
time to laugh hysterically because it's hilarious yeah we have weird sense of humor though
01:18:43.180
yeah that's a derek thing actually he like all like every now and then he's got these random
01:18:47.980
bollywood clips that he plays and they're like three minute fight sequences that make no sense
01:18:52.540
it's like 1970s chinese kung fu but just so much worse like just so much worse but i'm trying
01:19:00.380
to say sylvester stallone in the middle of it too because they paid him a couple million dollars
01:19:05.420
and he just shows up to do something like uh what i'm trying to say is that the country with the
01:19:11.020
world's largest population produces next to nothing they don't have any memorable products
01:19:15.660
or goods or services everything they touch turns to they don't have we stole everything
01:19:22.460
we stole all their spices never used it on our food and got rich off them you see and we've just
01:19:30.300
been hiding the money from them now the the funniest thing about the spice as well is like
01:19:37.500
like even the tea trade like they'll be like you came to india and stole tea it's like the tea wasn't
01:19:43.020
even there the british brought the tea from china because they couldn't get access to the markets in
01:19:47.740
china so they they brought tea to india and started growing it there like you didn't even like the tea
01:19:53.660
trade it wasn't even you it's not like you had a huge market of tea and then the british are like oh
01:19:58.460
we're just gonna steal this no that's not what happened india itself arguably is like a construct
01:20:04.060
right it was arguably invented by the british like every every they have nothing like almost
01:20:09.900
everything indigenous to themselves was actually just created by the british there's an argument to
01:20:13.980
be made that masala is actually british too or is curry it's one of those two
01:20:20.780
uh and what was it like before world war ii it was hindustan that's the old name the old name for
01:20:28.780
for india was hindustan so that christopher columbus story is bullshit who went to look for india and
01:20:36.140
those are indians and he would have said those are hindus that's that's literally why we called uh
01:20:43.900
yeah that's why we call the indigenous indians i've heard a conflicting story
01:20:48.540
like that uh the spanish word was el nino's what was it the lost children of god
01:21:02.220
and uh yeah because if it was called hindustan what was christopher christopher columbus wouldn't have
01:21:08.540
been looking for india would he he'd be looking for hindustan ah i just figured out the confusion here so
01:21:13.580
hindustan was the persian name for india whereas india is the english name
01:21:22.620
but people still used it in in like poetic writing oh is that okay yeah well just like the old name
01:21:29.100
for china is cafe like if you read and medieval times the english call china cafe or cafe or whatever
01:21:36.620
i've never heard that word before could they wow okay
01:21:44.860
yeah no and then tell tell me if this is not true because i've heard this in a
01:21:49.660
on a tiktok video i guess yeah it was los ninos indios the children of god yeah yeah
01:21:57.260
hmm i've never heard of that before yeah actually george carlin has a little bit that he didn't i
01:22:05.900
mean like george carlin's kind of like a i mean whatever you think of him doesn't really matter but
01:22:11.100
that was his thing he's like i don't i don't think calling them indians is offensive because i don't
01:22:15.660
think that christopher columbus thought that they were indians from india because the indians weren't
01:22:20.700
called indians then it was called hindustan so like to call it in them indians doesn't even make sense
01:22:26.380
what makes more sense is if you look at the spanish translation of what you know whatever derek said
01:22:31.260
like indios like the children in god or children of god like that actually makes more sense
01:22:37.180
that's plausible it's possible it's just like an interesting uh perspective on it but i don't i don't
01:22:42.380
know the truth of it well some some of the europeans had a very romantic view of the indigenous when they
01:22:47.740
came here you know free of industry free of commerce free of i don't know agriculture in many cases they
01:22:54.940
thought they were pure and noble and that they you know all of these things they lived with nature
01:22:59.500
so it's it's entirely possible free of age of consent free of laws not to genocide and eat your
01:23:05.740
victims correct noble uh cocaine rim job says india supplied jasmine rice to costco canada it was then
01:23:17.900
they're the world's number one export of scams and fraud so i guess that's not seen those videos
01:23:27.340
the the chinese and different indians like making rice out of like styrofoam and confetti and just
01:23:33.500
selling it like 29 kilos says wasn't it called badat so badat is the indian name it's like the hindu
01:23:42.780
language name for india about it see this is this is the kind of stuff that i don't like we shouldn't
01:23:52.060
even know this you made no reason there's no reason there's no reason i'm just nuts when i'm
01:23:57.980
trying to explain to americans what the difference between sikhs and hindus are and why they hate each
01:24:03.740
other and like it hits me for a moment i'm like why do i know it like why why is it my responsibility
01:24:12.380
to know the intricacies of hindus sikh relations and their diaspora populations because they've moved
01:24:18.700
to my country and so in order to understand what's going on in my country i need to understand what's
01:24:23.820
going on in punjab india like why yeah i shouldn't know i you know i have an indian colleague we he made
01:24:31.260
this joke with me like not too long ago he was i told him i'm like you're gujarati aren't you he's
01:24:37.500
like what sir how do you know this how do you know that what how do you know gujarat i was like are you
01:24:44.620
have you looked around you what do you mean how do i know what gujarat is right i'm like i know what
01:24:51.020
talugus and punjabis and gujaratis and bengalis are i know the difference between hinduism and sikhism
01:24:57.740
and hindi and urdu uh and he's like wow there's too many indians in canada i'm like yeah
01:25:03.900
yeah we just don't care he's like you shouldn't you shouldn't know this i'm like correct
01:25:09.980
i don't know how old you are 40 but like when i was
01:25:13.820
teen like when i grew up it was all white and then when i started to get into the workforce
01:25:17.980
you know 18 ish i started to go to brampton and stuff like that and uh i started to see indians and
01:25:24.700
that's when they were just filing in so we called everybody packies yes i was i'm old enough for
01:25:29.580
that yeah yeah okay so it was just everybody's packies i tell this story too uh my daughter was
01:25:36.140
so used to that's that's just what we called everybody so the guy with the term packy
01:25:41.260
i had my daughter at a parade she's on my shoulders and uh i guess the punjabi contingency
01:25:49.100
was walking by my daughter hand out hi packy oh no yeah oh well everybody around us laughed like
01:26:01.660
oh yeah no i mean back then like my you know i had members of my family who'd say raghead or towelhead or
01:26:07.980
whatever and that could mean both an arab or an east indian in hindsight it could mean basically any
01:26:12.460
non-descript person yeah yeah you guys want to watch a fun india video check this one i can't i
01:26:18.940
don't even know if this is ai or not this is where we've gotten through can i just get a super chat out
01:26:23.900
before we know oh we're there all right oh what is that i thought that was weed at first what is that
01:26:47.020
jesus christ that's awesome canadian man this is your future if these people win
01:26:54.540
that's fucking that's canada revenue agency right there
01:26:57.100
that's canada revenue agency that's every it's all five banks in the country
01:27:10.380
this should whoever gets in place needs to make a lot not to outsource the jobs like that
01:27:15.020
not just why are we even we're bringing we're outsourcing our jobs that you need to be here for
01:27:21.180
yeah it's absurd it's absurd like that's that's part of their whole argument we need economic growth
01:27:27.260
but also ai is revolutionary and is going to replace everyone's jobs and we'll have luxury
01:27:32.220
space gate communism fully automated and it's going to be great but also we need immigrants
01:27:42.780
king mahobulimuli says undersea cables in india are much more likely of being cut by china
01:27:48.700
and you don't need a sub to do it a commercial vessel with chinese ownership can just drag its anchor
01:27:54.940
accidentally on purpose i believe it honestly nobody hates i mean maybe us but nobody hates the indians
01:28:00.940
more than china yeah i love watching their border skirmishes this is why the chivalry
01:28:11.980
chivalry medieval warfare on the on the indian chinese border it's awesome that's good for a laugh or
01:28:18.220
the or even the india pakistan border those two peacocks out there fucking showing how high they
01:28:23.980
can do a british marching to each other i don't know if you've seen that one yeah oh i love that
01:28:32.380
all-brained american also filmed that too he's got a great series where he uh he drives like he rents
01:28:37.020
a scooter and he drives from ireland across asia all the way to japan and his videos on india probably
01:28:42.860
have the largest hits but they're absolutely insane like just the stuff that he films and like
01:28:47.500
just the way that they live you see this guy with like modern he's got a modern like western haircut
01:28:52.700
western glasses he's got an apple iphone in one foot he's holding up with his with his toes and he's
01:28:58.060
like trying to cut meat it's like half rotten with the other and he speaks like relatively good english
01:29:03.580
and it's like what is this place this is a post-apocalyptic medieval society and we just gave
01:29:08.860
them smartphones and trains right it's like literally warhammer 40k these people are like
01:29:13.980
medieval peasants with lambos and it's not good yeah not good no this is a disaster waiting to happen
01:29:25.900
what are you just saying this is one of the reasons why i find it difficult to be even like i have like a
01:29:31.420
small i have sympathy for the the east asians because it's like you guys get it you understand
01:29:40.940
the problem with these people so i i can at least relate to you on that level like i'm like yeah you
01:29:46.780
guys see it too and they're like oh we see sorry i was like that's not easy so we see a problem i worked
01:29:54.220
for hitachi for uh seven years the japanese were candid when they were by themselves like why are you
01:30:01.180
why canadians doing this they knew the difference between what a canadian was supposed to be
01:30:05.660
and who all the indians were that's funny at one of the meetings the head uh the head japanese guy
01:30:11.420
he just said it right we're not hiring chinese people anymore they always he had just said it
01:30:17.500
to everybody i wasn't even supposed to be in the meeting but he was like guys we're no more higher
01:30:20.860
chinese no i mean there's there's a across the border there's a meme and it's like be be the american
01:30:27.340
the japanese think you are yes right and it's because the japanese know the japanese have this
01:30:33.580
like stereotype of every western nation and when they when they meet when they realize that these
01:30:38.940
are no longer true they it kills them inside they're like what is happening um it was like the japanese
01:30:44.940
foreign minister to all these different european countries was more celebratory of their heritage and
01:30:49.100
their and their holidays uh than you know many of their own nation's dignitaries it was just astounding to
01:30:54.780
watch okay i i love their candidness there was the one big guy from japan we kept telling him
01:31:02.300
there's no fish in this pond right it was just a pond that we have on the grounds but he's like yeah
01:31:06.940
i want to fish it so i had to walk him out there and he's just candid man you know well yeah it's so
01:31:13.660
funny you canadians don't want work you just hire all these indians this is a good job for you guys
01:31:18.860
like yeah man i like it i don't know but it was just funny like they don't care they're perfectly
01:31:23.980
race conscious and uh they're just candid about it toronto we just hire a hefty high indian cra worker
01:31:39.740
i tried to file my taxes i got four million dollar in fentanyl fentanyl trafficking was just seized by cra
01:31:51.900
dude that that impression is spot you sound like ben bankus
01:31:59.100
i'm pretty good i'm pretty i'm not bad with uh with accents
01:32:07.820
that's what the argument comes down to when you look at someone like uh what's his name there puck daddy
01:32:14.060
is he's just as mad as the indians as everybody else right but he can't express it he can't express
01:32:24.460
his um what a canadian is and try to exclude anybody when you don't know what you are or you can't articulate
01:32:32.700
it no he can't the conservatives don't and they can't and they won't and jonathan bowden talks about
01:32:41.020
this on his like 40 minute speech about vanguardism talks about these people will fight you every step
01:32:47.660
of the way deep down in their hearts they want what you want they're gonna fight you they're gonna call
01:32:52.140
you names they're gonna obstruct you in every way possible and then when they lay their head down at
01:32:56.620
night to rest they're gonna have a smile on their face they're gonna thank you it's not gonna be them
01:33:01.660
they're they're you know they're waiting for people only listen to vanguards in extraneous
01:33:06.060
circumstances they only listen to what they view as the extreme position when they're extremely
01:33:11.180
desperate and western populations haven't been in that environment until now they haven't been in that
01:33:17.100
environment for a very long time probably since the second world war where at least there was the
01:33:21.340
perception of of an existential enemy that wanted to wipe them out um so you know they're just waking
01:33:28.140
up now but as you see day after day more and more conservatives come over to these ideas marty up
01:33:34.780
north was radicalized within the last year not even not even 12 months right like seven or eight months
01:33:40.380
yeah he just needs to have the breakthrough i mean that i i've seen it in his tweets or whatnot but i i
01:33:47.660
haven't been able to watch any of his content i won't watch if he's on with clyde and i think that's
01:33:51.180
the only time he he uh he streams but we should invite him on for a plat army
01:34:00.940
why not see where he stands we got to get on for plat army is puck daddy send him an invite i do i want
01:34:12.060
to have this conversation with this guy i want to watch everything just crumble as he just can't even
01:34:18.460
vocalize what he believes they just they just know right like they know what they don't like they
01:34:34.940
just don't have the tools they don't have the epistemology to be able to explain it that's exactly
01:34:40.060
it and i don't claim to be uh somebody that can always articulate my point either but that's why
01:34:46.940
i'm going with an organization that can you know you know and i think this speaks to the condition
01:34:54.460
of conservatives in the past too and this is part of the reason why they were so vulnerable to the left
01:34:58.940
because unfortunately our grandparents our great-grandparents they took the society that
01:35:03.100
they had for granted and so they forgot how to articulate the necessities of why and how
01:35:08.940
um we believe what we believe and why we have the social institutions and the institutions in general
01:35:14.780
that that uh that we have and so they lost the ability to articulate the importance of these things
01:35:20.300
and then leftists just tore them apart with deconstructivism leftists picked apart through
01:35:25.100
critical theory through marxist critical theory all of the building blocks of a civilization
01:35:29.660
and so they were left with nothing they were defenseless and the conservatives you see
01:35:34.540
they're exactly that they're they're defending a vague notion of liberalism from their youth
01:35:39.100
when they remember then they can afford groceries and pay their bills and have kids and buy a house
01:35:44.460
and they they don't know how to articulate what they believe and part of our responsibility is to
01:35:49.420
give those people the tools or be the tools it is to be the tools we are the vanguard there is no one
01:35:56.380
else it's just us it's people like ferry it's people like you derek it's jeremy it's it's tyree
01:36:03.420
we're the only ones in this country uh with the tools
01:36:09.900
amen i think there's more i think they just need a bit of uh coaxing and talking to an education
01:36:18.860
to get to where we are because there's still a lot of them out there and i see them
01:36:21.900
there's a great line i i don't remember the name of this guy but i was introduced to this
01:36:28.300
concept by man on the mountain so there's this rock climber that has this brand
01:36:34.140
it's called expect to self-rescue and the whole point of it is like you have to be able to rescue
01:36:40.620
like you have to expect that you're gonna if you're caught in a situation where you need to be rescued
01:36:45.100
that you're gonna have to rescue yourself so i made that meme like three years ago or something
01:36:50.860
or more now expect to self-rescue it was a diagonal meme and uh i mean i stole it obviously from this
01:36:57.900
guy but uh you went around i still see that one go around that's the attitude that we have to have
01:37:04.780
which is nobody's coming like if you want to get out of this situation you're gonna have to build it
01:37:09.020
yourselves you have to find your own way out of this did you want to show the uh the puck daddy
01:37:17.100
video i've had it sat there for a while oh yeah go for it i mean if we want to dissect this stupidity
01:37:30.300
guys so uh i just wanted to come on here first of all i'm safe and sound
01:37:36.300
got home to the fam everything's golden secondly guys uh from the bottom of my heart for the people
01:37:44.140
who showed up for the people who participated in the canada first patriot rally yesterday in toronto
01:37:51.340
god bless your heart and thank you for supporting this movement as i said yesterday this is just the
01:37:56.860
beginning and i'm seeing some stuff online too as well i mean oh joe needs better organization
01:38:06.220
joe needs this joe needs to do this i love how people are always so ready to give criticism or give
01:38:17.020
you know like point out your faults but these are the same people majority of them that don't even
01:38:25.260
show up that don't even participate in the things that they're supposed to what's that i'm gonna tell you
01:38:33.980
exactly what happened yesterday what what are the things we're supposed to show up for what are the
01:38:39.180
things that uh man i i don't want like i i just realized that this video is six minutes long i don't
01:38:45.100
want to listen to a six minute i want the clip where he just i have that clip if you want sure yeah
01:38:51.100
um because it's just like there's no point in listening to him rant incoherent place to stop on
01:38:56.860
though yeah so you know again people are criticizing you like so he says like you guys aren't doing the
01:39:04.140
things it's like well we are actually like your your whole thing like half of the criticisms that he's
01:39:09.500
about to lay down are actually directed specifically towards us and they're it's him commenting about what we
01:39:17.740
did do to organize so a lot of the criticism that you're getting about how you're disorganized you
01:39:21.900
had no plan you had no idea what you were getting into is from people who have been through this
01:39:26.780
before you moron it's not coming from random and non-accounts you know that just want to on you
01:39:33.580
because you're trying to do something it's coming from people who warned you this was going to happen
01:39:37.660
i told you this was going to happen years ago at this point and you just kept you kept doing the same
01:39:43.420
thing you've been saying this is just the beginning for like three years you moron like stop like
01:39:52.620
engage in some self-reflection and maybe think like if i've been doing this for this long and it's
01:39:57.740
getting worse why is that the case what am i doing wrong what is like incorrect with my strategy we did
01:40:05.340
that we sat down we talked to each other and said like what do we got to do here to make this work
01:40:10.940
and we came up with a new strategy and guess what it's actually working um and if it if it stops
01:40:16.940
working we'll readjust and we'll reevaluate and we'll look to other people who have had success in
01:40:21.900
in different ways but right now we have a system that works and yours doesn't so that's why our
01:40:27.100
criticism is valid but um here's where he lists out basically everything he did wrong um in like less
01:40:35.420
than a minute and then complains about you know what we're doing he doesn't actually directly
01:40:42.860
uh i don't think he directly mentions us but he is talking about us yeah oh yeah
01:40:48.860
a lot of tough guys oh for all you who think you can do better i dare you come to toronto come to that
01:40:59.420
it so first of all just before we continue we did do better we did better two weeks ago okay that what
01:41:06.300
we did was better than what you did like obviously objectively clearly okay and now we'll continue to
01:41:14.140
come to toronto why area throw one of your little rallies take off why why would we give the enemy
01:41:22.540
information so that they can attack us dox us you know subject us to government persecution put us on
01:41:29.180
you know list put us on uh you know government surveillance why would we do that you idiot
01:41:34.460
why would we willingly enable the left to engage in stochastic terrorism as we've seen this week
01:41:39.980
lose your bank account get dragged through court personal property like we've seen it all happen
01:41:46.220
and you haven't learned from any of this joe like once a part of the reason here so what what he fails
01:41:52.940
to understand is that the reason why you've never experienced the kind of backlash that you saw
01:41:58.220
yesterday is because for the first time you touched on a topic that's actually something that will draw
01:42:05.820
backlash when you march around going axe the tax maple maga canada first and that's your whole thing
01:42:12.460
is just vibes and patriotism bro with maple syrup and hockey sticks nobody gives a but the
01:42:17.820
moment you touch the topic of mass deportations and immigrations now you're over the target aren't
01:42:23.100
you and you saw exactly what happens when you actually are over the target you get that kind
01:42:29.020
of reaction and you had no idea that that was coming because you've never been over the target
01:42:34.060
before we have we were so over the target at one point we had the entire canadian government
01:42:40.220
disavowing us and trying to turn our mean country into a terrorist organization that's
01:42:44.780
how over the target we were at one point that's it and do better than me go ahead i'm waiting we are
01:42:54.540
for all you big mouse out here go to toronto you by yourself organize something bring your little crew
01:43:05.260
take off your fucking mask because patriots don't wear masks actually they do the patriots did wear masks
01:43:14.380
during the boston tea incident they did wear masks when they were taking pot shots at british grenadiers
01:43:21.980
all of the patriots wrote under pseudonyms just like today with anonymous posters uh including um
01:43:29.660
um what's his name patriotism doesn't have a dress code yeah yeah well it does sorry thomas
01:43:37.740
thomas jefferson it was jefferson as well uh one of the more prominent ones who wrote under his
01:43:41.740
pseudonym but anyway patriots don't wear masks well actually they did it's even worse they disguised
01:43:46.940
themselves as mohawk they literally dressed up in iroquois garb and took pot shots at british grenadiers
01:43:55.180
in the woods to hide their identities because they still had to go work at the dock
01:43:59.180
the next morning or whatever the way he's gonna figure this out is just watch man watch whenever
01:44:05.100
people who attended your rally start getting and they will people who attended your rally are going
01:44:10.220
to get doxxed and their employers are going to be email bombed saying you you hire a racist
01:44:17.660
why do you hire racist this kind of and when you start actually feeling the effects of being over the
01:44:23.980
target you'll go huh i don't like being hit with these arrows i don't like that the people who
01:44:29.500
support me get hit with these arrows maybe we should use shields you that's that's the conclusion
01:44:36.220
that you'll come to so you haven't figured out this lesson yet because again you haven't been over the
01:44:40.380
target and you just finally you know found something that they actually are going to respond to which is
01:44:46.300
being genuinely anti-immigration and being you know pro mass the mass deportations thing that you
01:44:51.740
had on your flyers that was the one that really did it and on what they believe and they stay
01:44:57.820
behind your face deportations on one of his flyers yep no yeah i'll find it if you want after we
01:45:09.180
finish this but yeah he did wow so his rhetoric has changed quite a bit hasn't it yes it has and funny
01:45:14.860
enough like again lee actually had an exchange with him back in august where she was doing the what is
01:45:20.300
the canadian thing and he actually said it's the european population that you know founded and built
01:45:25.180
canada which is hilarious because if you actually believe that that you know definition then about
01:45:30.860
half of the people you were marching with you know with you know for canada first are not canadians
01:45:36.620
by your own definition which also by the way would exclude him himself at least to a certain extent
01:45:41.900
because he's half jewish so um there's that but anyways hiding the end of the day guys until you do better
01:45:53.180
we we did do better we did better on august 30th what we did was better we had a plan we executed that
01:46:03.340
plan exactly how we wanted to everybody got out we didn't hand antifa a massive w we didn't hand the
01:46:09.740
left the massive w we came across as strong look at the way the experts responded to our march they're
01:46:16.780
like our response was these groups are growing this is a cause for concern we we don't we need a way to
01:46:23.980
curb you know these groups from continuing to gain momentum like everything about it was them being
01:46:29.260
like this is an actual genuine like we have to do something about this and obviously it's hysterical to
01:46:34.860
a certain degree but they're not wrong when they say that we're gaining momentum that's true
01:46:39.020
we've had we've had look we're gonna have close to a thousand applications in a month
01:46:46.860
you have any idea how how big that is for an organization like this that's that's the kind of
01:46:50.940
numbers that are unheard of even among you know like countries like america when it comes to
01:46:56.620
organizations like this so like just that one example of us doing that was enough to generate that
01:47:02.620
kind of hype you your headlines were anti-immigration protesters chased out of town basically that
01:47:11.900
was your headlines so anyways um i'll find that um
01:47:22.700
what would you call this like because he he's trying to build it around him and his personality
01:47:27.740
what would you um tommy robinson disorder i don't know it's just sloppy lism yeah yeah
01:47:47.900
see it's funny this account here sammy 2.0 this is an indian promoting his anti-immigration protest
01:47:57.740
where is this turning point that's what i was looking for is uh
01:48:13.740
my favorite part was the uh the national anthem though there you go
01:48:24.940
so that's right from his that's not from somebody else he's just wow so this
01:48:31.500
this canada first account is his branding like it's his account it's not his personal account but he
01:48:38.780
runs this account for sure or it's being like look it's being used to promote him so like a canadian
01:48:45.900
patriot day like is it a patriot day or is it a mass immigration start deportation like again
01:48:52.940
lack of cohesive uh yeah see stop there you go stop mass immigration start mass deportations
01:48:59.980
re-migration is necessary and you thought it was a good idea to host this downtown
01:49:06.060
he's an idiot well okay i know anybody that lives in toronto that's not downtown but to anybody
01:49:11.660
fucking outside six hours from the gta that's downtown that's what we call it's in toronto
01:49:23.660
like you've got i resent that word to be honest with you i don't like the word patriot no i don't
01:49:28.540
either i don't either because it's loaded with american connotations it is almost completely 100
01:49:34.220
lifted from mega and you see this everywhere all of the boomers all the boomer populace they all lift
01:49:40.060
the same rhetoric you hear it from everybody everywhere patriots first yeah alex jones right there
01:49:50.380
and like i i've gone on a i've gone off on this before but if you if you pay attention to all of
01:49:56.460
these like conservative populist kind of accounts they all say the same thing we believe in fighting
01:50:02.060
for our values and our freedom and there's always our democracy and they never define the values
01:50:09.260
and it's always everyone from anywhere can become british german french canadian american as long as
01:50:15.820
they assimilate and our problem is the illegals and i even saw this at that british rally uh a couple of
01:50:21.660
days ago some of the videos coming out are like deport all illegals and it's like my brother um most of
01:50:27.660
the migrants in the uk came legally and like this is the problem with lifting populist rhetoric from
01:50:33.900
the us and attempting to apply it globally around the world it's all of the conservative commentators
01:50:39.980
naomi site eva vlander broke all of these different people uh repeating these messages right at this
01:50:47.900
rhetoric patriots patriots are in control yeah i do see the the guys in the uk seem to really like using
01:50:55.740
that term and i think it has a much different connotation maybe there than it does here um but yeah
01:51:02.540
yeah there's a case to be made for that yes yeah i do i do they really love using that word like
01:51:07.020
you'll see steve law zoomer like all all that kind of re-migration crew they're constantly using that
01:51:12.220
term to refer to one another or just people who are doing good stuff so that but yeah i i understand
01:51:17.980
what you're saying but here's like again this is just funny as i was scrolling through that account
01:51:22.300
just look at this so this is a post uh canada first patriot rally um will you be attending yes i'm going
01:51:31.180
73 percent no i'm not going to this uh you know 27 4200 responses and this is the kind of nonsense
01:51:40.620
that happens when you try to build you know a movement through online influence because look at what
01:51:46.380
he said to this so 73 percent of 4205 responses said they were coming on september 13th in toronto
01:51:53.900
even if i got half of that i'd be happy well what did you get you got less than a tenth of that didn't
01:52:00.140
you you didn't you didn't have more than 300 people so you certainly got less than a tenth of 73 percent of
01:52:08.460
uh 4200 or what is it 4200 responses so what did you did you learn about about you know determining
01:52:16.220
your numbers through online polls did you figure something out there maybe joe are you going to
01:52:21.180
engage in any reflection on on you know what happened here no it's everybody else's fault
01:52:30.700
that's a perfect example i've seen it a few times since i've started doing this and you start to learn
01:52:39.180
that you know it's different how many times do we go through it max with ppc faith goldie
01:52:45.580
i knew it was going to happen by chris guy like we were already calling that like yeah you know
01:52:51.260
anytime somebody tries to take social influence and turn it into a political just differences so here
01:52:59.100
here's again so i don't know how many people he had show up to that it was definitely less than 300
01:53:05.660
and i would assume it was less than 200 based on what i saw but i don't know what the actual numbers were
01:53:11.100
and clearly antifa had over a thousand people show up anyways at least at least three to one it was
01:53:17.580
probably four or five to one minimum but let's be conservative and say three to one so the the
01:53:23.180
difference is in planning here joe is that we did a rally with 70 people right but i knew there was going
01:53:31.740
to be 70 people there so we had 80 80 some guys attend our nationals event in total and we had 85
01:53:41.340
registered so i think at the end there was actually more guys there than were actually registered and
01:53:46.700
supposed to show up but we had everybody who said i'm coming showed up and that's what you have to
01:53:53.340
develop is you have to actually know if these people say they're coming they're going to come so
01:53:58.540
i know i have at least x number of people and if anybody else shows up great that's good that's
01:54:04.060
just extra on top but i know i can rely on these you know 80 guys or these 100 guys or these 200 guys
01:54:12.220
and that's how i can at least confirm those numbers and you know but you didn't do that did you
01:54:19.020
how how many people did i wonder how many people he talked to literally the day or you know the week
01:54:23.500
before and they said oh i'm 100 coming and they just didn't go i've seen it just way too many times
01:54:31.260
yeah i've gone all the way to ottawa to see it i said my first rally was like well there was more
01:54:39.580
people in line at the hot dog stand i've said that before like it looked ridiculous i couldn't believe
01:54:43.980
that nobody showed up you know but that was seven years ago
01:54:50.140
you know king maha bully mooly says the last time i saw such massive recruitment for an organization
01:54:58.060
was when b4f got established and it looks like sec will be less fake and gay than b4f was
01:55:04.620
and was much stronger leadership well thank you i think there's a more
01:55:12.540
there's more of a vision of what we're actually trying to achieve with this organization um
01:55:17.820
um then v4f because again that was just kind of like uh join up and we'll do things or something
01:55:28.780
like at least we have a we have a culture that's developed we have like an organizational structure
01:55:33.180
that's developed there's there's something to it um and the whole point is to just build build build
01:55:40.460
build more tools build more mechanisms build more engines to drive this thing forward it's not
01:55:45.340
necessarily about um you know if we get x number of people then heckin victory buddy like we've done
01:55:53.180
it we we marched yeah you know what somebody came out and noticed us i think maybe that's his plan
01:56:00.540
that he'll get us such a big rally that pierre will acknowledge him and he'll become the next pleb
01:56:06.620
i think that's as far as he's thought like and so and i've seen this attitude before you'll see you just
01:56:13.340
wait and see and it's always waiting to see to see we'll see what are we good so that was the
01:56:20.220
one that kills me too is like do you think that more people are going to show up the next time you
01:56:24.220
do this after what happened like half i guarantee you half of the people at least half of the people
01:56:30.460
who went there they're demoralized today i know that because a bunch of them if 12 people attend who
01:56:37.020
of the 200 or something that attended your rally are reaching out to me which is five percent of
01:56:41.820
your rally if five percent of your rallies reaching out to me and saying that was a disaster like i
01:56:48.220
should have listened to you like never again with this clown like do you think that that's not a
01:56:53.340
sentiment that exists among at least half or more of the people who did um like what do you think like
01:56:59.660
what do you think people are thinking today after they went through that you can see it in the
01:57:04.140
videos your own videos that you posted on so the video that of tom marazzo is just like i don't even
01:57:13.260
and i'm like oh i felt bad for you you're just like you're humiliating you can see it on your face
01:57:20.060
as you're surrounded by antifa and you're just like what did i come here for this like why did i do this
01:57:26.060
exactly why did you do that you guys want to toronto to a tommy robinson rally in like 2018 or 2019 or
01:57:35.100
yeah it was 2018 showed up and it was like six on the sidewalk and one guy was speaking about
01:57:40.940
religion and oh what a mess i'm just not doing that anymore even in ottawa like the last great thing
01:57:49.340
you'll see was the convoy prior to that in canada what did we have 2010 olympics again jordan jordan
01:57:59.500
peterson events maybe lauren southern events yeah those were under looked i guess yeah like look there
01:58:08.540
there might be instances where you get these kind of big moments um that occur but it's not going to
01:58:15.020
happen because some guy with a following said come here on twitter that's never going to work man
01:58:21.820
um and it's funny johnny was going to go he's glad i slept in haha
01:58:28.860
yeah he was supposed to go he wanted to go you know film it and just you know see the
01:58:33.660
and he's glad he didn't and uh it's funny i told him what it was going to be dude there was like
01:58:40.060
poor all of exactly what it was going to be there's a full wall of protesters like they are
01:58:45.740
getting such rich propaganda out of this out of your loss we chase the nazis out
01:58:52.300
we chase the nazis out sent them down the street and once you went down the street that's the
01:58:57.580
demoralizing part you're talking about with tom like okay we're gonna march down the street
01:59:03.820
they got in front of them but half the time they were marching there was guys with banners
01:59:08.380
saying free palestine with the palestinian flags marching ahead of them making it look like it was
01:59:17.020
it was their rally man was their rally like it was their rally that's the point
01:59:28.860
there's some fault there just like the fucking l man like you lost it's i said that on twitter that
01:59:35.260
was my tweet like you if you get chased out of your own rally you lost the day and harrison
01:59:39.900
like that he's like yeah i'll i'll give you a good one um in 2021 on canada day dominion day
01:59:51.340
randy hillier and the pvc and henry hildebrandt held a rally at the supreme court in ottawa and i went
01:59:59.820
there and there was i don't know maybe 500 people there at most and then there was an every child
02:00:07.020
matters like feel guilty white man for colonization rally and 10 000 people marched past the supreme
02:00:13.820
court and i was just like oh man that's the like that was a massive l like we took a huge l that it's
02:00:20.220
like you can just admit when you lost man like it you can't like you can't address what went wrong if
02:00:28.540
you can't admit that it was a loss it's like imagine trying to do post analytics on a hockey
02:00:34.860
game and like you clearly lost the game and you're like oh we did great not we didn't do anything wrong
02:00:39.660
everything we did was perfect it's like it was it was 17 nothing you moron
02:00:45.340
like what do you what do you mean like what are we gonna learn it or are we just gonna go
02:00:51.580
lose 18 nothing next time you idiot like you have to admit that you up yeah
02:00:59.260
yeah so yeah i don't even i didn't even bother looking but i could just imagine the victory victory
02:01:14.700
hard to think you lost when you're a legend in your own mind that's fair enough
02:01:21.980
anyways it'll never happen you'll never say we like i don't even understand why this is so so weird
02:01:28.060
we did this so like i can talk about this without breaking obsec but do you think that we didn't look
02:01:34.620
at what we did on august 30th and say like we need to fix this we need to fix that this is never
02:01:40.940
happening again there's no way these guys are going out like that ever again like we went through this
02:01:46.940
and we dissected everything that we didn't like how do we do this next time better so that it it
02:01:52.220
there's none of these mistakes like we're not like oh we killed it and everything went perfectly
02:01:58.460
according to plan and we couldn't have possibly done any better no like look at the situation and
02:02:19.980
t missile says you can't even get through 10 seconds of cut no i can't he's an idiot
02:02:23.740
also like just sorry toronto but your accent is atrocious
02:02:41.100
the worst accent in canada by far yo like two twos my word kroski yo shoddy yo that's not bless
02:02:49.260
oh man i want to i want to punch you in your anonymous
02:03:00.380
that's basically how fucking daddy talks isn't it yo that's us he does yeah he's got the he has like
02:03:06.220
the he's got the zoomer cadence but he's got the the just the grinding toronto cadence from uh
02:03:15.100
all of the different peoples that are there to the point where like canadians talk like those
02:03:19.420
people now the toronto accent is real it is it is organic most people who who have it fake it for
02:03:25.260
for clout and likes on social media um but it is an organic accent among some of them it's usually a
02:03:31.180
lower class ghetto ghetto populations yeah yeah you'll say it's part of the jamaican contingency that went
02:03:40.620
uh like there was a lot of patois in that wasn't it say wallahi brah well it's it's not just jamaican
02:03:46.860
patois it's also like nigerian roadman and there's a little bit of arabic in there so they'll say things
02:03:52.380
like say wallahi say wallahi bro so they say to choose my word say wallahi and it's just this this pigeon
02:03:59.900
of of roadman and and arabic and yeah ebonics it's like a new form of torontonics or something
02:04:10.620
man-made horrors man-made horrors beyond comprehension we're we're approaching physiogamies
02:04:16.780
that hp lovecraft could never have predicted i was calling it toronto knees but yours is better
02:04:22.300
i like that there you go pretty good yeah it's a bit all right you got anything else there derek
02:04:36.460
um no i actually didn't have anything ready tonight i had a couple of videos i think there was just
02:04:41.420
it's mainly racism i didn't even upload them no we just went for two hours i knew it was going to be
02:04:51.260
like that just after the wake of his protest it was ridiculous like show that you learned something
02:05:00.060
from it though man like just admit the loss like maybe it's not worth it he's too far behind maybe
02:05:11.180
come back in a few years after you've done some push-ups and some research on canadian history and
02:05:16.540
well that's your image so it's very obvious that this guy doesn't know anything about canadian history
02:05:24.060
the canadian political system he doesn't he doesn't know any of this stuff and like that's again
02:05:28.540
that's part of the reason why i want to talk to this guy so i can nail it down and just be like let's
02:05:32.780
let's understand where we are where we come from and like like what do you know like what is what is
02:05:38.780
your world view rooted in like why did you go from maple maga to canada first to like what why are
02:05:46.220
you doing this and like the answer is he doesn't know he just knows like like most people he knows that
02:05:51.900
there's something wrong and he doesn't know what to do so he thinks that if you wave flags in the
02:05:56.140
streets and enough people do that then change that's it uh strata you know right now god ate my
02:06:09.340
balls says by the way congrats furry man on the new desk setup here's to a new longer shaking the no
02:06:16.140
longer shaking of the camera like some gorilla chimp seeing a white woman for the first time
02:06:22.220
yeah strata's hunting a mosquito right now that's why he's doing this stuff
02:06:31.740
can you look over the most recent white cliff video re new protesting laws did you get the did
02:06:37.900
you play earlier the one of him like not accosting what's the root confronting the the canadian anti-hate
02:06:44.860
network board member the the walk-off king yeah get that one that was good that's funny
02:06:51.900
was that part of the live stream or did he actually cut it down i think it was just video
02:07:00.380
that they were taking but yeah this is the other thing by the way puck daddy was complaining that the
02:07:06.540
dominion society didn't show up they did show up they couldn't get to you you fucking idiot you were
02:07:12.140
surrounded dude it looked rough okay like they had the cops surrounding them all with their bikes on
02:07:21.580
either side like i know you were scared joe i know it was scary like it looked like an entire they had a
02:07:29.020
line of just freaks geeks spics well this is the other thing they had the numbers did you see what
02:07:37.340
those numbers look like rough oh goblins dude a few dozen hard motherfuckers would cut through that
02:07:46.300
like a knife through hot butter man like there is no substance to those numbers at all like i would
02:07:53.580
feel a hundred percent comfortable surrounded by those people if i had 20 good guys with me
02:08:11.980
years of dehumanizing and demonizing right-wing conservatives and then he gets killed
02:08:17.900
this is something that the anti-hate network does you're a board member correct
02:08:21.020
all death is horrible it really is do you agree absolutely the it's it's it's horrible
02:08:31.340
you are right i know i just want to make sure it's clear all death everyone's death is horrible
02:08:38.140
i i have a 10 year old son and i you know so i feel bad for his child it's horrible that it happened to
02:08:44.380
him this is so fake thank you very much for your question well i'm just concerned because people
02:08:49.180
were celebrating his death they were saying death to fascists i don't care and you're part of the
02:08:54.220
canadian anti-hate network which regularly dehumanizes and humanizes fascists and you're even associated
02:09:01.740
with anti-fascists you associate with anti-fascists who say they want to punch fascists so you
02:09:11.260
do you feel guilty at all for smearing right-wing people
02:09:14.060
title do you feel guilty at all for for dehumanizing right-wing people now charlie kirk is dead
02:09:22.140
because of organizations like anti-hate drag do you want to make any comments on that
02:09:25.980
greg now charlie kirk's children has no father because of smear merchants like yourself at the
02:09:38.700
anti-hate network so again oh dude he's the walk up big look at this jesus very good very good running
02:09:49.820
away from the conversation running away from the conversation so again i just want to reiterate
02:09:56.780
that's that's what they were up against like as much as puck daddy's group was a bunch of drunk boomers
02:10:02.860
you were also up against a bunch of pothead you know dysgenic leftists and fat people so like imagine
02:10:10.380
imagine that was a hundred second sons instead of 300 drunk boomers like we would have been having the
02:10:16.940
time of our lives in that in the center of that mess even though we would never allow that to
02:10:21.260
happen in the first place that would have been laughable to us like i would oh like i can't wait
02:10:27.900
when we go to toronto and we will go to toronto not i'm not saying when and i'm not you know i don't
02:10:34.220
know if it's going to be necessarily soon but when we do show up to toronto it's going to be
02:10:38.540
international news you can take that to the bank i think what's most telling here is just that
02:10:45.420
they're not expecting this they were not expecting anyone to come up to them confront them
02:10:51.420
uh frame it in the way that greg did and then catch them off guard because typically we're not the ones
02:10:56.780
who do that stuff and it just goes to show you great like the better part of the better part of
02:11:01.900
the conversation right now that the left is not somebody somebody made this viral tweet a couple of
02:11:08.060
days ago which is like the left is not prepared for the doxing and harassment campaigns it's like
02:11:14.460
it's like a neolithic tribe coming into contact with smallpox they're just getting absolutely wiped
02:11:19.020
out by the consequences of saying things online and i feel like that interaction is a reflection of
02:11:25.180
that that dude was not prepared whatsoever for greg to show up and just pounce on him like that he was
02:11:31.180
not prepared no no nobody was prepared this weekend so you could see there were still some people hanging
02:11:38.460
out in the park with canadian flags hanging on their back but you don't know who's carrying that flag
02:11:44.780
anymore you don't know if that person is friend or enemy anymore carrying that maple leaf
02:11:58.460
oh it's uh that was what i said you know operation ensign has their stuff out now and that was what
02:12:04.140
i said is like this is it's not the flag of the revolution it's the flag of the counter revolution
02:12:09.500
like this is this is your symbol guys like pick it up hoist it you know put it everywhere um and you
02:12:16.460
know what it resonates with people that's beautiful ferry that's beautiful i love that line it's not the
02:12:23.260
revolution it's the counter revolution beautiful that's how you have to frame it with these people
02:12:27.900
like you're not going to appeal to canadian canadians on revolutionary grounds but if you explain to them
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that the revolution has already taken place and everything that they you know hold dear has been
02:12:37.660
co-opted you might get them to fight to reclaim those institutions in a counter revolution um to restore
02:12:43.900
their institutions not to destroy them to restore them um so like that's that's the framing that i think
02:12:50.700
that we should be pushing when it comes to trying to get people to to join us but um
02:12:55.660
yeah like it's just understanding that that is the mindset of canadians
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it's definitely a tough thing to gauge i know the men we're looking for have that mindset
02:13:11.100
and some of them don't even know they have that mindset yet but there is a significant portion of
02:13:16.620
the population that when you look at what happened to puck daddy and it's saying like
02:13:25.660
they came out of nowhere but like you said they have the institutions to be able to immobilize more
02:13:31.100
than one crowd they have the unions they have the anti-hates they have the antifas the uh i don't even
02:13:39.260
i probably don't even know some of the networks the palisine ones the law enforcement
02:13:45.260
yeah even law enforcement going out and doing their gig like
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it's just again this this comes down to not understanding so
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the left generally is favorable towards protest we talked about this last night i think it's worth
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reiterating for anybody that maybe didn't catch that protesting is inherently progressive and leftist
02:14:11.980
okay like i don't even think that's a controversial statement i think that's just obviously true that it
02:14:16.860
always has been like you can go back all throughout history every time that there's been some kind
02:14:21.100
of like mass protest action it's usually left-wing coded and it's usually um you know revolutionary
02:14:29.420
in in nature which is the the wrong framing if you're trying to mobilize right-wing people
02:14:35.180
so right-wing people like order they like discipline they like pride they like they think of it this way
02:14:42.380
instead of trying to do mass mob protests which is something that appeals to the you know the rabble of
02:14:51.740
the left like the you know the the lower common denominator the people who you know have a an affinity
02:14:58.940
for chaos and disorder and just you know degeneracy in general the framing that you're trying to push
02:15:07.820
for mobilizing right-wing people is a military parade right-wingers love that they look who doesn't
02:15:17.500
like who on our side sees like the the you know um the mass band formations of like a highland games
02:15:25.660
or the changing of the guard or some kind of military demonstration and they don't go this is awesome
02:15:32.060
we love that stuff that's the energy that you have to tap into if you want to start recruiting people
02:15:38.140
to your cause not everybody show up here and we'll smoke a joint and we'll talk about tyranny
02:15:45.180
and the establishment and how everybody's out to get us
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it's not going to appeal to the kinds of people that you're trying to appeal to
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uh it's the wrong frame there's oh uh the framing is important when you're talking within the confines
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of the law as well because they have made protesting certain elements of protesting illegal
02:16:09.580
demonstrations and parades for something different
02:16:14.780
so i know the masking is uh going to be a point of contention because it is illegal at protests you're
02:16:23.020
not supposed to wear a mask at a protest there is a law against it and i'm wondering
02:16:30.460
do you uh i don't know if you went through that or or discussed that at the beginning of the stream
02:16:34.300
it might be good to touch base on what i did want to mention is it's going to be interesting to see
02:16:39.500
if the canadian government is willing to corner themselves into a situation where they're accused of
02:16:45.500
having a two-tier justice system now we already know that is the case yeah but it's going to be very
02:16:50.140
interesting to see if they're willing to do that if they're willing to let leftist protesters wear
02:16:55.340
masks with the cops not doing anything but go after groups like uh second sons we don't protest
02:17:07.340
like like leonitis in um 300 we're not mobilizing the army this is just a bunch of my friends and
02:17:17.740
we've decided to go for a walk together what are you talking about we're allowed to wear masks if
02:17:23.180
we'd like there's no protest you know no the truth is protests don't work the the other thing as well is
02:17:29.980
that um it's going to be hard for them to to nail us down like that because we're not going to put
02:17:36.140
ourselves in a situation where like they're going to have to catch us basically if they want to deal with
02:17:43.260
that so good good luck let's let's play uh you know tag you're it no the point is you're not doing
02:17:50.620
anything wrong yeah you can put on a demonstration without doing anything illegal and still have it
02:17:57.260
come off better than fucking retards in the street well the other thing too is if it got to the point
02:18:06.540
where we couldn't do mass because it was just going to result in some kind of problem um very
02:18:14.060
soon we're going to have enough guys that are comfortable being public facing that it's not an issue
02:18:19.260
anyways um and there's other ways like it's very simple a hat and sunglasses is in many cases enough to
02:18:26.060
conceal your identity especially if you do any like all you have to do is you know have a beard shave
02:18:33.340
you know what i mean change your facial hair like even that's enough to um make it difficult so like
02:18:41.980
there's little tricks you can do anyways to still protect your identity hats and sunglasses bucket hats
02:18:47.260
like there's all kinds of stuff um so even if it comes to that i'm not really necessarily concerned
02:18:55.100
no that's why i was talking about resenting that word patriots because it can be invoked anytime
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patriots don't cover their face yeah well they they do when they're not retarded
02:19:12.300
even horses cover their faces when it's go time
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no i don't know if there's really anything else going on this week i mean charlie kirk's
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and uh on the canadian side really what did you have happen it was just
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a wind for the left throwing out the dirty racists
02:19:41.660
and you can sit there and fuck no matter who who you had walk with you pray for you
02:19:48.540
speak for you you're still the nazi learn from charlie
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yeah that is that is go ahead sorry i was just gonna say on that on that front we do have some
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good news on our side of the border in regards to people who are stupid enough to post on their
02:20:07.980
linkedin profiles celebrating the death of charlie kirk um a number of school administrators here
02:20:14.220
have been fired have been doxed and fired uh i think in ontario some city councillor or some city
02:20:20.620
employee uh in ontario also got doxed and fired for um for making comments about kirk so this is
02:20:28.620
this is international now it's not just us it's also happening in europe i'm gonna see if i can
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try and find and i'll shoot you the link it's very interesting um
02:20:58.620
derek's favorite day do you know 40 you may not know this but derek is actually a huge terry fox
02:21:09.980
fan oh i didn't know that yeah he's like it's he's like his favorite canadian idol so derek routinely
02:21:16.460
talks about yeah i don't know what the obsession is but he just he for some reason for generation
02:21:23.900
three he thinks that terry fox is a better canadian like john mcdonald or isaac like he just he loves
02:21:30.060
him arthur curry like all those people derek loves terry fox i don't get it but yeah he loves him he's
02:21:37.100
our princess diana is what he is he's useless and a guy ran halfway across the country
02:21:45.020
like he he is responsible for an entire generation of mediocrity yes yeah he is oh my god whoa 40
02:21:54.620
i do no i do i i i was never like even as a kid i was never i was never captivated by the story of
02:22:02.140
terry fox i was just like man like okay i guess like heroic sacrifice i guess in a way like this is
02:22:08.940
great but also i happen to notice that the only people who really are really into the terry fox
02:22:13.740
mythology are like boomers it's like oh oh forget it did you you removed him for being anti terry fox
02:22:28.460
no that it's ridiculous you want to favor somebody that like didn't finish what they set out to do
02:22:34.700
oh he died trying that's stupid stay at home you could have lived a couple of extra years
02:22:40.700
like look i i i see the appeal i get it i get it it's just it's very sanitized it's like
02:22:46.220
it's a very sanitized very watered down he's jewish retelling of the i didn't know that
02:22:53.660
well i don't know that for a fact i just know that they celebrate it in israel as well
02:22:57.820
what yeah they celebrate terry fox day in israel yeah very very unmuted buddy yeah
02:23:08.700
he hates terry fox so much he just makes things up about him dude
02:23:15.660
i'll find it anyway yeah i don't know he's a he's a democratic hero right he's like he's a safe hero
02:23:20.380
he's a democratic hero because the boomer would never honor samuel deshawn plane or smoking to eric
02:23:26.620
wall chiefs with a single shot of his musket or exploring the saint lawrence they wouldn't honor
02:23:31.100
any of that stuff they wouldn't honor isaac brock's very real heroic sacrifice against the americans
02:23:36.620
they wouldn't honor you know uh montcalm and wolf and them both dying like the end of the iliad or
02:23:44.460
something uh it's he's a safe hero and i think that's why he's he's so appealing i remember being
02:23:49.980
told in school that terry fox was a hero he's very much wrapped into that maple leaf multicultural
02:23:58.140
diversity cultural mosaic pacifism uh peacekeeping kind of mythology he's he's kind of an icon he's
02:24:06.060
part of that he's part of that religion that civic religion really he only ran quarter of the way like
02:24:11.500
he had mechanical assistants that's not fair like how long before you have robots in the olympics if
02:24:19.980
this is the standard of hero there you go terry fox celebrated in israel you know they have been held
02:24:30.540
in israel as part of the international effort to raise money for cancer research notably at kibitz
02:24:35.900
far bloom in the upper gaily and in jerusalem what a strange export of all the things that could be
02:24:43.580
exported from canada it's terry fox if that's his real name are you you're gonna put me down a rabbit
02:24:52.620
hole here i've never heard of this are you kidding why else would he fucking i i don't know i just don't
02:25:00.300
see it like why did you immortalize this guy like i don't know i heard that you know he drove halfway
02:25:10.620
across quebec as well i didn't like we should invite his brother on you know should invite his brother
02:25:21.180
on and talk to him what is strange and it's not like you know they ended up curing cancer because of
02:25:33.900
them you know it's just this giant research hole that people keep throwing money into oh yeah well
02:25:40.940
i mean that goes yeah that's like any ngo now that's any non-profit that's any research non-prof
02:25:47.820
right so they they raise money every year where that money go where's cancer research money go
02:26:00.540
yeah if terry fox set out to if he finished what he said to do go down he would still be alive today
02:26:09.980
look if terry fox finished his run stan rogers died in a plane crash
02:26:28.780
oh no it was after right was it actually after i i honestly have no idea i think it was 93 stan rogers died
02:26:35.820
what did terry fox die 83 it was 83 san rogers died in 83 terry fox death uh
02:26:49.180
oh like two years later he only died two years later crazy so he died in my lifetime i don't remember that
02:26:54.700
on tv you were like wait you didn't remember it i was born in 79. yeah oh so like you think i would
02:27:05.740
have seen that we didn't wheel in the vcr or anything into the classroom like look at the
02:27:11.980
cancer man running across the country oh he died turn away cancer man
02:27:22.700
i've got a schizo theory about stan rogers which is that the trudeau government took him out
02:27:27.020
because he was too too cultural he was too much of a spark he was too much of a
02:27:31.900
very deeply intrinsically canadian spirit and uh he was a threat to their post-national project
02:27:37.580
because everything everything that rogers sung about ran anti-ethical to what the government was
02:27:44.300
doing at that time like word for word song for song totally anti-ethical the idea of canadians
02:27:50.860
being a rooted people with this deep and rich history singing about like barrett's privateers dude
02:27:56.300
like that references sherbrooke in the 17 1778 it references the the canadians at the time of the
02:28:03.980
american revolution and they were all trying to get rid of that stuff so that's my schizo theory i think
02:28:09.340
that stan rogers was was taken out you ever researched the flq oh yeah i know quite a bit about them
02:28:18.940
i would love to hear a breakdown and your thoughts on that uh yeah yeah i might uh if you guys are
02:28:26.060
going to get into that i'm going to check out here just because not that i i'm not interested just
02:28:30.060
because i'm getting tired and it's been a long day yeah we don't have to get into it tonight but
02:28:35.100
that's something that i would love to hear your thoughts on in the future if uh that would be a good
02:28:39.260
one yeah because that is a very interesting time in canada that's overlooked quite a bit
02:28:44.540
well it almost it had the potential of leading to world war three actually that's what many people
02:28:51.020
don't don't realize like if the ussr had backed the flq openly expect to see the warsaw pact march
02:28:58.380
into france you know during the october crisis it very very plausibly could have ended up that way
02:29:04.220
which is fascinating the flq is in direct contact with the soviets although they denied it and um
02:29:09.900
the terrorists uh had connections to cuba they they that's that's how they got out of that situation
02:29:17.900
they they exchanged the hostages for safe passage to cuba which was aligned with the warsaw pact
02:29:22.220
uh aligned with the ussr so very complicated history um the flq was modeled off of the ira
02:29:28.860
and similar sort of decolonial or anti-colonial leftist organizations that were militants that were found in
02:29:34.060
africa um like the the communist groups in zimbabwe and this is why nationalists no well sort of they
02:29:43.100
were yeah they were ethno-nationalists from the leftist coded perspective that there are victim people
02:29:48.300
trying to liberate themselves from their oppressors and the communists knew how to take advantage of
02:29:53.820
french canadians at that time and many of the grievances that they had and so they played on they
02:29:59.580
played on on the socioeconomic disparity at the time which was you know they're not just english and
02:30:05.980
you're not just french and they're not just protestants and you're not just catholic but also
02:30:09.180
you're the proletariat and they're the capitalist and they're part of this whole global network that
02:30:14.700
seeks to take advantage of you and all of oppressed proletarians worldwide have to unite and resist uh
02:30:21.100
this and so it gets wrapped into all of that stuff very interesting guy one of the q uh the the core flq
02:30:27.740
guys was an absolute degenerate which should go without saying uh communists usually are he yeah
02:30:34.780
there's a whole i'll correspond with some of my french canadian guys and we'll uh we'll i might hold
02:30:39.260
the space on oh i would love i would love to sit on that because like that was the forming of uh or
02:30:47.500
exposing of what was the rcmp what they were actually like and uh what they still get up to today um
02:30:57.740
how the forming of ceases because of that whole the bombing and yes internal investigations and like
02:31:04.220
it's very pivotal time for canada like that that we don't look at that enough what was that called
02:31:10.540
robert robert what's his name he blew his hand off planting a fake bomb so what's interesting is yeah
02:31:17.740
before the flq started their own bombing runs the rcmp was was putting bombs in mailboxes and pinning it on
02:31:23.100
them yeah yeah as wild time like and even the the conclusion of it all like getting on a plane and
02:31:34.700
going to cuba like to in negotiations for somebody's life because they had already killed
02:31:44.620
levesque was it remy levesque no no no it was james um i'm so rusty on this now was it james cross who was
02:31:51.580
killed it was the other guy the the trade minister the british guy right yeah wild times and then you
02:31:58.380
saw some of the accused i forget their name they then went from cuba to france and then negotiated
02:32:04.940
coming back to canada and only did two years in jail but they were exiled out in like france for
02:32:13.420
yep yeah so it was it was air laporte who was the deputy premier yeah he was kidnapped and murdered by
02:32:19.900
the flq they actually didn't want to kill him but it happened anyway and it was james cross the british
02:32:26.540
trade minister whose life they exchanged in order to get safe passage to cuba uh i used i used to be up
02:32:33.740
on this but my memory on it is just so foggy i'd have to go over it all again like but yeah i would
02:32:39.420
love to hear more perspectives on that especially new ones because mine were even limited at the time
02:32:46.540
and i even wrote about it in my book about the emergencies act and how how many people were
02:32:51.660
arrested during that time and rounded up you know 1500 and 1200 charged my grandfather used to tell
02:32:57.820
me if you didn't like your neighbor back in the day you could literally just call the rcmp and say
02:33:01.820
that you think they're flq and they'd kick in their door at four in the morning
02:33:04.620
yeah yeah and uh the meeting with the flq and uh the black panthers i guess it was that the rcmp felt
02:33:16.460
compelled to burn down the barn before they had the meeting and they thought that would work
02:33:21.820
yeah i mean pierre vallier uh called french canadians the the white niggers of america he
02:33:27.340
wrote a book called white niggers of america framing the struggle of french canadians as this like
02:33:32.460
third worldist you know anti-colonial struggle of oppressed peoples against the the evil evil white
02:33:40.300
colonialist imperialist kind of thing um yeah very very typical communist stuff yeah it worked at the
02:33:48.860
time and they did have an alliance with the black panthers with the ira the black panthers the pro
02:33:55.900
palestinians the basque nationalists in spain as well and the catalonians like that whole sphere of
02:34:02.220
lefty lefty lefty nationalism as as a front for communism sometimes openly so
02:34:09.260
yeah so do you think how far on the left did you think trudeau's dad was at that time
02:34:23.420
like pierre trudeau is a little bit hard to pin down because he has a very very long ideological
02:34:29.100
trajectory he starts off as a fascist in the 1940s he served a minor role in the military i believe
02:34:37.020
he used to he used to drive a motorcycle down st catherine street in montreal
02:34:43.340
yeah wearing wearing a stall helm a german song he was good friends with uh jean lasage the who would
02:34:51.340
become the mayor of montreal and and lead the quiet revolution jean lasage was also a fascist in the 1940s
02:34:57.340
which is really curious um pierre trudeau then went to university and he came out with this affection
02:35:04.860
for marxist leninism for basically stalinism which probably explains the authoritarian tendencies but he
02:35:11.340
was already there he already had the mindset for it um he very famously said he brought his son i read
02:35:17.260
this in the truth about trudeau by bob plamedon where he took his he nicknamed his firstborn son sasha
02:35:24.620
which is a typical slavic kind of pet name um diminutive name and he took him to the ussr
02:35:30.620
and allegedly told him this is what the future looks like so but obviously canada could not come
02:35:37.980
out openly as a communist state in alliance with the ussr on the united states's doorstep it was simply
02:35:43.340
not possible politically even if those were his true leanings he had to cope with authoritarian left
02:35:49.660
liberalism and a more kind of trotskyist like radical egalitarian vision for for the whole country
02:36:00.860
wild that the terrorists were doing things to uh give them total control at that time i'm i'm fading
02:36:09.500
quick here guys so yeah higher for the night is great having you on twice in a row 40 and i'll see
02:36:18.860
you guys i don't know later this week but uh i gotta go to bed i'm tired all right yeah everybody's
02:36:25.340
realizing it i'm just like yeah all right see you guys cheers yeah i'm uh i'm gonna get be prepared i
02:36:35.500
gotta get my cameras out tonight for that bear to come back i should uh transfer those over actually
02:36:42.060
and just show everybody that's crazy like black bear or brown bear black bear oh yeah okay it's
02:36:48.700
i've seen their tracks around here and i obviously i know they're up here like people come up here to
02:36:53.900
do bear hunts specifically it's just i haven't had one go through my shit yet so
02:36:58.300
yeah i guess even a locked garbage isn't gonna save you no no no no no he was actually trying to get
02:37:09.900
into the uh pig pen i didn't notice at first i didn't look it just wasn't obvious to me but uh
02:37:16.380
uh yeah yeah he uh he was trying to get in interesting so i only had the one camera set up
02:37:26.540
and uh there we go jesus look at that beast yeah and the neighbor had stopped in as well and said that uh
02:37:37.980
um it was going through her place and uh and so she saw paw prints on the window and the dew on the
02:37:46.620
deck in the morning see the paw prints and so she knew it was out and she saw it last night and uh she
02:37:54.140
tried to set off the alarm in her car which i didn't hear you know i knew i heard something last
02:37:58.220
night i just thought it was the cat and you just don't think to get up you just hope it goes away when
02:38:04.220
you're laying in bed right yeah so we'll see sounds like no bump in the night i remember that like i
02:38:11.180
lived yeah i've lived in a pretty rural area before too uh right next to a forest and the sounds you
02:38:19.500
hear coming from it at night or just like i'm not dealing with this right now right like everything's
02:38:24.940
battened down i think pretty well and then if it gets louder i'll i'll go but yeah i'm ready for
02:38:30.940
him tonight he's not getting my pig like he could be the reason i don't think a bear's quite quick
02:38:38.620
enough to get a cat a kitten definitely but i mean they're pretty fast but no i don't think they have
02:38:45.500
the dexterity to catch a cat yeah we'll see but i wanted to i don't want to keep you around forever
02:38:53.900
like don't feel like i'm keeping it but talking about the flq situation is uh um so interesting to
02:39:01.420
me like i've always i've looked into it myself so any other insight i get from people is uh always
02:39:10.460
appreciated yeah i can't i can't remember his name the guy who blew off his hand i think it was robert
02:39:16.620
samson or something like that but it follows along that trajectory um the rcmp security service was
02:39:23.980
investigating separatist activity in particular some of the more radical groups the rcmp also
02:39:30.460
illegally trespassed and like over was like it's somewhere between 100 and 500 uh political offices
02:39:38.540
during that time period um just trying to find dirt on um different political parties different
02:39:45.740
separatist groups trying to find something incriminating and also something for character
02:39:49.980
assassination so that they could discredit um any kind of separatist or or kind of radical activity
02:39:55.820
but obviously their focus was the flq due to the violence and revolutionary communist um measures so
02:40:02.620
it was well known at the time or it became well known after that that the rcmp had their dirty tricks
02:40:08.060
division and you'd see it and resurface after the flq saw it in the heritage front there is in
02:40:15.660
instances with like webo ludwig you would hear this stuff um oh what was your and uh muslim terrorists
02:40:23.420
in in canada all the manufactured crises that we had in canada
02:40:29.580
so yeah it's just so fascinating watching the rcmp's true role is just to protect the power
02:40:36.620
yes well they have a very long history of of doing things like that like in particular
02:40:44.220
um like i think in bc a couple of years ago they tried to pull a mr big on this like schizo
02:40:52.060
homeless guy who had just converted to muslim i forget to islam i can't remember his name
02:40:57.100
but basically they paid for his groceries and his cigarettes and his booze he was some guy on welfare and
02:41:02.380
his girlfriend also converted to is pressure day cooker bomber in bc yeah yeah and uh they they
02:41:10.460
convinced him to plant a bomb at the uh at the the legislature over there in in victoria yeah um
02:41:18.460
the guy was basically a half-wit and his girlfriend was he was hanging around this rcmp
02:41:23.660
officer because he thought he was cool you know yeah and they exploited it like oh they completely
02:41:30.060
exploited the guy and i'm glad they got caught doing it like and it was something like over
02:41:34.380
over a million dollars in overtime were paid to the 250 officers involved in that operation
02:41:40.060
just to fabricate this this situation and effectively entrap him and i believe when he
02:41:44.460
was finally brought to court they dismissed it because it was just absurd and the mounties in
02:41:49.740
particular have a very long history of doing stuff like this they also invented the mr big
02:41:53.660
uh technique yeah there was also the via rail terror bomber where the same setup the two guys you know
02:42:04.940
we're gonna they basically got set up and entrapped by this um officer and the guy was generally like a
02:42:11.740
schizo muslim immigrant that didn't know his ass from the hole in the ground and they blamed everything
02:42:17.740
on him he would like stand up and say like weird islamic things during his court proceedings and
02:42:23.340
stuff and they just basically blamed it on him and said he was incompetent to hold trial and the guy
02:42:29.580
was fucking finger painting with his own shit in his cell like he was that out of it so a guard
02:42:37.500
fucking said hey i'm gonna give the guy something i think there's something wrong and got a doctor to
02:42:42.860
look at him blah blah and the guy started to snap out of it right started to think clearly and started
02:42:48.540
to bow to defense so the defense said oh no you shouldn't be on medication i don't know if it was
02:42:54.620
the defense i don't know exactly who it was that decided it was wrong for them to actually put him
02:42:59.660
on the medication it was against his rights to have a doctor force him on medication when he couldn't
02:43:07.260
um he was unable to consent for himself it's something ridiculous like that so the guy's back in jail
02:43:12.620
just fucking finger painting away again yeah i've never heard of that there's another character too
02:43:20.860
there uh oh what the was that name moving shake he was so-called the the muslim that turned
02:43:31.820
turned good he was a muslim terrorist that turned good and like that's his story right he came back from
02:43:40.700
learning islamic prayer in places like pakistan and afghanistan i think it was where he was talking to
02:43:46.220
radicals obviously over there and when he his story goes when he came back he was um
02:43:53.740
interested in why his friend got got radicalized so he went to the rcmp to find out
02:43:59.980
you know he said hey what's going on what's so radical and then he realized the error of his ways and
02:44:03.820
he was doing everything wrong so he decided to embed with the toronto 18. uh do you remember the
02:44:09.740
toronto 18 the people that were supposed to um bomb uh i think it was the csis headquarters or a
02:44:19.660
intelligence headquarters i'm a little foggy on which ones out it was but uh anyways the toronto 18 a
02:44:29.580
bunch were miners a bunch regret doing it like so basically he set them up to go buy some inert
02:44:38.140
material from rcmp officers to go do something that was never going to be able to pull off none of these
02:44:45.660
people they're all half its as well they wouldn't be able to pull any of this stuff stuff off like
02:44:49.500
fertilizer bombs they didn't know what they had no no yeah right yeah it's just a ridiculous story when
02:44:56.860
you start looking into it it's like no you set them up i bet you were caught doing something in
02:45:01.980
another country that you weren't supposed to be doing and because of these um security certificates
02:45:06.700
that csis are allowed to pull out on people that travel to different countries um that could be
02:45:13.420
suspected of terrorism because csis doesn't have any arresting powers but once you're outside the
02:45:17.420
country other agencies can hold you on behalf of csis correct right and then so that they can
02:45:24.860
interrogate him says you're going away for a long time you're doing this that's how i think now
02:45:29.740
that's all here saying just i'm putting two and two together obviously there's no evidence of that
02:45:35.740
for move and shake but i just don't see him coming back from being radicalized out
02:45:40.460
in whatever stan he was in learning about islam and coming back to find out that his friend was
02:45:46.380
radicalized so he goes to the rcmp and says what can i do to do better like get them well i mean they
02:45:53.020
jump all over that anyway for to serve as a d-rad op because there was a time where we were facing
02:45:58.860
a significantly higher degree of islamic terror in canada you remember the death of corporal nathan
02:46:04.540
cirillo being perhaps one of the biggest um so that was one of them but i was gonna say that yes csis
02:46:11.260
does engage in heinous things there was what was it it was a few years ago they got caught handing off
02:46:16.620
miners to british intelligence for isis as part of an isis deal so like yes csis does engage in human
02:46:23.980
trafficking in order to achieve their intelligence uh movement defended that move it was defending the
02:46:30.540
intelligence for that too like they're up to some seriously nefarious stuff and they always have been
02:46:37.580
that's actually like a big part of what my book was on that's why i know a lot of this because i
02:46:41.580
i was researching all that stuff when it was happening to us when they started using these
02:46:45.980
tricks on us and using the media to and i don't know if it's the rcmp or more so just a different
02:46:56.860
aspect of government control being disseminated through propaganda hives like anti-hate and such
02:47:03.580
yes perpetuating uh stories and mythos and creating things that aren't there to scare the population in
02:47:10.220
order to get the government to give them funding and to go after us and like yes it was actually
02:47:16.700
very well played by them to be honest well there's also like their depriment like they radicalized that
02:47:24.380
an entire uh group of people at the same time and introduced them to each other i was gonna say too
02:47:31.740
there has to be yet a deep dive on the intelligence agencies and all of their networking um their
02:47:37.500
associations with ngos um who work closely with the government like anti-hate there's certainly
02:47:43.260
more of them i wouldn't be surprised if groups maybe not tapsic itself but i think that's just
02:47:47.660
the foreign lobby obviously um as is the indian canadian society but i have to wonder how many fingers
02:47:54.460
are in how many of their fingers are in mini pies in canada what are they actually behind because when
02:47:59.420
you think of something like usaid which was funding all kinds of stuff both domestically in the us and
02:48:05.340
and internationally you have to wonder like where and and even in the canadian front how much of usaid
02:48:11.500
was going to leftist organizations here because the usaid was funding leftist orgs in the united
02:48:18.140
kingdom and france and germany and poland like 15 years ago google was running a pro gay marriage campaign
02:48:27.180
in poland which at that point was on the cusp of banning it or had already been or they were defending
02:48:32.780
their decision to do so i mean they know how to lobby different political parties for their
02:48:39.740
agendas because they're used and it's the pro these names aren't even relevant anymore but lead now
02:48:45.580
used to be a propaganda arm for the liberals in ontario and his founder was adam shedlinski who was
02:48:52.300
also the lead policy advisor to the kathleen wind government in canada or sorry in ontario
02:48:58.940
and he was an ashkenazi jew that was chinese educated right oh yeah it was something else just
02:49:10.700
behind the scenes and he's just disappeared he's gone now i don't know what he's doing but that's
02:49:14.460
where i learned how these organizations were getting funded through political parties and their own
02:49:19.580
external donations from people like george soros and tides foundations yes and that was the big one in
02:49:25.820
canada was lead now and uh anti-hate i don't know if they necessarily have any ties to tides foundation
02:49:33.980
directly i know that some of their speeches and papers have been sponsored indirectly for some of
02:49:40.380
things like you can draw ties but it's the same playbook of lobbying the government in the name of
02:49:45.820
safety and hate right well that's how they make all their money like i think it was both you and ferry who
02:49:51.820
um who covered this before in a couple of episodes back where they they hyperbolize the situation in
02:49:57.900
order to get more government grants because that's how these organizations stay afloat um but what i did
02:50:02.780
want to point out and you're right to to mention this is there are two books one of them is claws the panda
02:50:08.780
and the other one was willful blindness one of them is called by jonathan manford and they discussed the
02:50:14.300
ccp's influence in bc and how basically it was ccss that edited or fabricated documents to try and lead
02:50:21.980
the rcmp off the trail it was a joint ccss rcmp operation in 1998 it was called a project sidewinder
02:50:29.020
or operation sidewinder and they were trying to discover the extent of which the chinese communist
02:50:33.900
party had infiltrated metro vancouver and um i've heard of this but i've never read up on it like there's
02:50:40.940
yeah so this is you can you look this up even after the stream project or operation sidewinder it
02:50:46.380
was a joint operation between the two of them um ccss was caught editing or or changing information and
02:50:52.300
the rcmp accused them of it and then the project was just the federal government ordered to shut down
02:50:57.900
they were getting the rcmp were getting a little too close to the truth whatever whatever they had
02:51:03.020
found in metro van um which means that ccss is at least indirectly enabling foreign interference
02:51:11.660
foreign infiltration on canadian soil at least from the chinese we picked up like all of our guys were
02:51:17.180
getting uh knocked at the door and ccss wanted to talk to them like you know what they're doing
02:51:21.180
they're tart farming right now they're looking for someone dumb enough that finds the ideology that
02:51:26.940
they can turn into one of these stories yeah that they're uh like that port air uh candidate cooker
02:51:36.060
bomber like well you've seen all those memes on instagram where it's like the fdi the fbi when
02:51:42.780
the when the schizophrenic kid they give uh a machine gun to starts lifting weights and finds god and it's
02:51:49.180
just them screaming and crying and pissed off the sorry it's like the fbi when the kid they groomed to
02:51:54.700
like perform a mass shooting doesn't you know yeah doesn't end up doing it and they were talking
02:52:01.660
about that too how i mean it wasn't quite directly but they're saying they were the canadian government
02:52:07.900
had permission to run psychological operations on the population and the proof was the wolf thing that
02:52:15.260
they were doing now where was that they're they're putting off that was new brunswick yeah during covid
02:52:22.540
yeah like where do you get off dude psychological operations on your own population
02:52:31.180
because they can yeah and because they know yeah it's been going on like we had an mk ultra program in
02:52:38.860
montreal university in the 1950s i don't know if you know that but we did it was it was cia sponsored and
02:52:44.300
they experimented on unknowing canadian and u.s citizens okay here's a good one for you where am i
02:52:53.100
i don't want to get too uh specific here but are you you're in quebec
02:52:59.820
okay so you probably know the history of the duplices government the duplices orphans
02:53:06.860
and such and uh i think mk ultra had something to do with the experiments tied into that as well
02:53:15.660
this this is news to me i know a pretty decent bit about the duplicy government like the union
02:53:25.900
national i didn't know anything about duplices uh orphans population of canadian children wrongly
02:53:33.020
certified as mentally ill by the provincial government and confined to psychiatric institutions
02:53:37.420
in the 40s and 50s many of them they parade them out every 10 years or so and talk about them
02:53:46.300
and uh they were deemed incompetent i guess and they were never able to hold jobs or
02:53:50.940
yeah i'm not doing it any justice but 300 000 children i think
02:54:04.780
i have to be very careful with this too because there may be some of this may be on ironically
02:54:09.340
liberal propaganda yeah dig through it it's uh we don't have to speak on it by any means but it's just
02:54:16.140
something else in our history that it's just that the federal liberals for a very long time were very
02:54:22.460
adamant on opposing quebec like french canadian nationalism of any kind and duplicy has had a lot
02:54:28.220
of half truths and a lot of of incorrect propaganda applied to him in order to um delegitimize quebec before
02:54:37.900
the quiet revolution so quebec was a theocracy until the 50s and 60s the catholic church did control
02:54:46.220
the education system and the health care system however it was not the years of darkness that the
02:54:52.220
quiet revolution liberals claim it was right like that was them delegitimizing the past in order to
02:54:58.380
justify and mythologize the massive changes that were unfolding and the quiet revolution is quebec's
02:55:04.300
version of what the rest of canada went through in the 60s and 70s basically these secular liberals
02:55:09.580
socialists progressives fabricated a new national identity based on secularism in the french language
02:55:16.140
um it was nationalist but it was a broad coalition of nationalists most of whom were not ethnic
02:55:21.260
nationalists although some of them were and so they had a you know they were against duplicy because
02:55:26.620
duplicy was a french canadian ethnic nationalist and a theocrat he believed in the catholic church he
02:55:33.820
fused nationalism with with catholicism um so yeah there may be some truth to this duplicy was known to
02:55:40.860
being kind of a thug he was known for being corrupt uh in order to consolidate power within his province
02:55:48.220
so there's there may be something to this i'll have to look uh i'll have to look more uh into it
02:55:54.460
but this this reminds me of another scandal that erupted in ontario it was one of the last insane
02:55:59.660
asylums i think that was still open where they were like wrongly confining people or something like
02:56:05.340
that like two was an immense number of people an immense number of patients and it turns out that
02:56:10.540
they were um they were being wrongly admitted into this institution and the the asylum was doing it
02:56:17.340
for funding yeah they were basically forcibly medicating these people and voluntarily confining
02:56:22.300
them where they were subject to horrific experiments that would shock the canadian public even today yeah so
02:56:28.620
yeah there's quite a history of that stuff and you don't want to look at it you know but uh yeah
02:56:36.300
horrific things happened under the name of i don't know too much it wasn't my government right like i
02:56:42.860
didn't even know my own government that much it was just an interesting story to look into but maybe
02:56:48.860
i've never heard of this i'm gonna i think i'll take a like i'll do a little deep dive on this as well
02:56:52.780
this is very fascinating yeah there's so many instances in canada we should actually set up a
02:57:00.060
stream sometime and pick like three canadians that we know most people have never heard of
02:57:07.340
mm-hmm yeah i also want to impress um i want to impress upon the stream that this is also something
02:57:13.900
that canadian intelligence agencies are very good at and have done for a very long time which is they
02:57:18.300
project this image of canada as a sleepy hollow country where nothing ever happens and we're all
02:57:24.300
kind of peaceable and suburban everyone is like happy and smiling and there's white picket fences
02:57:29.740
they do this on purpose while they run all kinds of sociological experiments on the public they have
02:57:34.620
for a very long time um and they play that to its advantage they play canada's reputation as boring
02:57:40.860
to their advantage to grant cover to the federal government and csis and and csec and cse
02:57:46.620
and whatever other experiments they have going on like the alberta this is going to blow your mind
02:57:51.500
um the alberta eugenics board was sterilizing ukrainians until the 1970s um ukrainians
02:57:59.980
yeah so when i when i say that this country when i say that this country was made for the british and
02:58:05.100
french people i wasn't making that up like even out in alberta where they had a huge number of germans
02:58:10.540
ukrainians other non-british and french euros um they didn't want them there they didn't like them very much
02:58:15.900
and so i i think the i think the alberta eugenics board was closed in the 70s so that's that's
02:58:23.260
something i'd love to look at the alberta eugenics board yeah bc had one too british columbia eugenics
02:58:30.060
board all of western canada was like yeah oh wow yeah yeah there's so much going i mean in the 1906 race riots
02:58:42.700
uh was it 1907 the sikhs came and even that was a scandal nobody wanted them here it was the
02:58:52.620
communists that ended up representing them that's right they they illegally entered very few very
02:59:01.340
very small numbers of them were guest workers of course baba gurdit singh tried to illegally
02:59:07.500
trespass on canadian territory by bypassing the canadian uh re journey continuous journey regulation
02:59:14.860
which effectively banned india from immigration to canada um by making it so that people had to go
02:59:20.460
from their destiny from their their origin point straight to their destination with no pit stops
02:59:24.940
right and so the indians tried to bypass this by going to japan um baba gurdit singh scammed his way
02:59:31.500
onto a ship in hong kong he sold fake tickets he did some time somewhere in india or hong kong he was
02:59:37.340
in jail for a little bit and then so he goes on the kamigata maru lands in bc and then the shitshow
02:59:43.980
starts and all of those indians were nationalists all of those indians were part of the gadara movement
02:59:49.660
at that point it was both hindus and sikhs they had yet to go their different ways the sikh part
02:59:54.460
of that turned into the kalistan movement and the rest of them turned into hintuva nationalists
02:59:59.500
basically uh hindustani nationalist fascists or or ethno-nationalists and so yeah that's where that
03:00:08.300
shitshow starts our our literal our literally our origin story with sikhs and indians is just them
03:00:13.260
trying to subvert our laws and steal our resources to the benefit of their people and there was a sikh
03:00:18.140
that killed it was an indian origin man anthony hopkinson who was raised in british but he was
03:00:25.260
clearly indian but he was shot as the border guard um william hopkinson was yeah he was a he was a
03:00:33.020
british guy born and raised in india he was fluent in hindi and english and he started doing some work
03:00:38.140
over in bc over in canada and he was investigating some co-ethnic murder between the two of them he was
03:00:43.980
getting very close to uh the case and he was assassinated in broad daylight on the steps of
03:00:48.940
the vancouver courthouse did you say he was english born and raised in india yes he was a white guy he
03:00:55.260
was the other way around no no no he was a white guy born and raised in india and uh he was an anglo-indian
03:01:02.460
he's like george orwell huh yeah see i thought it was the other way around i thought he was uh
03:01:09.500
indian raised in britain no no no he was a white white guy raised in india fluent and fluent in indy
03:01:16.860
and uh anyway they offed him and that is our that's our origin story with the indians that's like the
03:01:22.300
earliest point of contact we have with them is just them trying to scam and illegally enter the
03:01:27.580
country and then assassinating one of our customs officers so look where we've been led to today
03:01:35.340
that's how they help build canada is by scamming their way in
03:01:39.500
well that's right right and you get you used to get guys like uh what's his name he disappeared
03:01:44.220
from the internet he goes by a different name now but it was called himself a fifth generation seek
03:01:49.180
fifth generation indian and i remember pressing canadian identity on him before i was like okay well
03:01:54.620
if you're fifth generation you still don't identify identify with canada he's like well if it's if it's
03:01:59.340
between my seek calistani identity and my canadian identity i'm choosing that and i'm just like well
03:02:04.300
then i guess those five generations didn't really matter much to you no i guess you're not really
03:02:08.620
canadian after all right no it's only we for so long and then they had their own distinct identity
03:02:15.580
so canada is a fascinating country that larps is a sleepy hollow town where nothing ever happens but
03:02:24.780
the reality is that uh all kinds of crazy stuff happened here in the past all kinds of crazy stuff
03:02:30.860
and was it the bc liberals in 1930 uh they were they ran on not wanting to give asiatics the vote yes
03:02:44.140
yeah i'm just kind of going through the history of like it's all racial events and anti-immigration
03:02:49.420
those are our biggest stories throughout history like all of the gallup polls i covered this in the
03:02:54.140
chronology on that space it's very dense it's very hard to listen to looking back on it like it's
03:02:59.420
it's just so much information it might even be information overload um but yeah we had explicitly
03:03:06.220
discriminatory immigration policies for a very long time and in order to um
03:03:11.820
um in order to bypass all of that they had to work in secrecy through orders and council the mckenzie
03:03:17.820
king government was being pressured by the united nations uh in order to relax some of the stringent
03:03:25.900
immigration uh laws that we had and so in his private journals he expressed skepticism about mass
03:03:32.300
immigration specifically from europe at the time um meanwhile he was putting through orders in council
03:03:37.740
which are kind of like executive orders it's like you bypass parliament and just kind of do your thing
03:03:42.700
um and yeah so they've been working in secrecy for a long time it was like the liberals in the 40s
03:03:48.860
are really where it starts yeah i want mckenzie king's journals from that time when he went over to talk to
03:03:55.420
hitler like i wonder how accessible those would be unfortunately so much of canadian history and
03:04:04.380
access to public records are locked up by not the national film board but i can't remember what
03:04:10.220
agency is responsible but basically you can only get access to it under license and you have to provide
03:04:14.380
a reason so they gatekeep our own history yeah they're very they're very smart to do that because
03:04:19.820
everything that i've uncovered everything that canadian nationalists are uncovering today is just the
03:04:23.980
stuff that they weren't able to hide away from the public yeah because when i was looking into mckenzie
03:04:29.020
king i started looking at pictures and trying to figure out who was around him at that time when he was
03:04:36.140
going to talk with hitler and being dealt with with the un and uh when he back when he was
03:04:44.860
because he had to go investigate the race riots of 1906 was it 1906 the japanese yeah yeah okay
03:04:53.820
and it was mckenzie that went over to deal with it then and he was at that time he was talking to
03:05:01.820
goldwin smith and henry barassa two names that i was i was talking to some of the french guys there at
03:05:09.660
our event about henry bra so you see his name on parks yes the streets the metro station yeah and uh he is
03:05:20.620
also known for the most anti-semitic speech in uh the house of commons history
03:05:29.020
and goldwood smith was actually the prince prince of wales tutor oxford scholar and was also known as
03:05:37.980
the most vicious anti-semit in the anglo-saxon world who wrote three papers uh the jewish question
03:05:46.060
the nagging jewish question and then it's the vexing jewish question like he had just had enough by the
03:05:52.540
third paper and that's something i don't think people do anymore they don't leave behind bodies of
03:05:59.260
work like that that encapsulate the kind of time like journals and i suppose they do now we're doing it
03:06:05.660
digitally we're making fools of ourselves trying to get people's attention to bring
03:06:11.260
bring awareness to stupid issues that fucking really don't get us anywhere now i'm just
03:06:17.580
fucking dragging on but no it's all good i'm trying to find uh an article that dimes put out on vanguardist
03:06:25.100
journal that explains a lot of this stuff specifically the mckenzie king era and the forces that um
03:06:34.380
were really pushing for multiculturalism within the government
03:06:37.980
and he talks a bit about it in his documentary if you haven't seen dimes's documentary paving over the public
03:06:43.660
you probably should it's probably the most comprehensive and easy and accessible timeline of events
03:06:51.260
yeah i'll check it out i think i did watch that back but
03:06:55.020
you know what was it called again dimes paving over the public paving with public i think this was
03:07:01.980
maybe a year ago or something isn't it yeah um in february of 1947 the prime minister's cabinet
03:07:09.580
commissioned a report on the general immigration policy with the purpose of avoiding discrimination
03:07:13.340
on racial grounds and was written by the interdepartmental committee on immigration
03:07:17.500
may 1st of that same year saw king deliver a speech wherein he declared there was no fundamental right
03:07:22.380
for anyone to emigrate to canada specifically addressing the special problem refugees presented in
03:07:29.100
the wake of world war ii we know who he's talking about this wave of migration was pushed primarily
03:07:34.940
by the new united nations king's response was to give the impression that the issue would be dealt
03:07:39.180
with in the future incrementally and with caution only days later his administration launched what is
03:07:44.380
widely regarded at the time to be the largest refugee initiative in canadian history king publicly
03:07:49.420
maintained his anti-immigration stance while his administration was implementing completely the
03:07:55.100
opposite and that's you know that's where it really starts and our early immigration history is really
03:08:01.420
just this it's it's it's the government saying no we're not flooding the country except they are
03:08:05.660
yeah and at that time it was italians jews eastern europeans refugees from the war um all of these
03:08:14.620
all of these sort of different groups who are being let in a great many of them communists
03:08:19.180
not just the ash kennedys but also the slobs because they were coming from the ussr
03:08:23.340
and the ussr also encouraged migration to the west in order to subvert it and destroy it from within
03:08:28.380
just a few short years earlier in the 20s um the communist party of canada was founded in guelph by
03:08:35.580
uh old stock canadians but like six something like 60 of its membership was eastern european
03:08:41.260
like primarily russians ukrainians and fins who were all orthodox christians or lutherans uh with a
03:08:47.660
smattering of of ash kennedys in there so yeah very very interesting fascinating history this is like
03:08:53.900
the dark we're we're deep in canadian history here this is like a whole blind spot for even conservatives
03:09:00.540
uh when discussing history in the 20th century like yeah there was uh it was big talk over the time
03:09:09.180
that's why i was saying uh hold on smith wrote those papers he had the jewish question it was a real
03:09:14.860
concern at the time because they were being ejected out of different countries in the pogroms and
03:09:18.860
nobody wanted them and it was a a un catastrophe for years that was going on well the only communist
03:09:28.060
party mp and you know this we i've discussed this before the only communist party mp ever elected
03:09:34.140
in their history as a party was fred rose his name was fishel rosenberg he was a communist from the ussr
03:09:42.860
who had emigrated to montreal in his youth um joined almost immediately in the 20s with the communist
03:09:49.180
youth movements and he was elected in a majority ashkenazi riding of cartier which no longer exists
03:09:55.260
but it was a majority ashkenazi neighborhood and uh so what what makes this different from the us is that
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is that our ashkenazi communists were open they didn't operate in the shadows they were not they
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didn't join the government and and pull the levers to push anti-immigration or sorry to push uh pro
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immigration policy they were just open communists this was the town that was going to be dedicated
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to them in manitoba was it yeah wild so they were just open openly communist they came here they
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started stirring things up they i could be getting this wrong were they not trying to establish another
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uh jow jewish autonomous i'm not sure i'm not sure about that it wouldn't surprise me i know that are
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you thinking of the dubicores those those russian whatever not the duke wars the uh uh it might be
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confused with them yeah but you know how they have the uh jewish autonomous zone on the east end of russia
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america they were trying to establish some sort of autonomous zone inside of canada during laurier i
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think laurier was negotiating for a town in manitoba i could be butchering this i really should have notes
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in front of me and shit like that when i'm trying to talk about this shit but i'm just we're just shooting
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this shit here people there's a lot a lot of history that uh it's too much for one mind to fucking
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comprehend yes even even for me i have to rely on a whole bunch of other people with expertise
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and niche subjects just to be able to recall a lot of this like for example um from this paper
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the gallup poll of april in 1946 two-thirds of canadians opposed immigration from europe
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uh once again japanese first and jews second in response to the question of what nationalities
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yeah so like even the good asians canadians were vehemently against even the good europeans
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canadians were vehemently against we wanted nobody absolutely nobody in this country yeah
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so john said european of good quality like good stock
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it was um good character sorry i was butchering that as well
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it's getting late it was no it's all good it was also minister jack pickersgill in 1954
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who took over for mike harris asserting sorry not mike was it mike harris um asserting that
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immigration policy since 47 had the primary purpose that was social rather than economic
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so even as far back as the 40s the liberals viewed this as a social experiment not as a scheme
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to pump the gdp that would come later that justification would come later uh in order to mythologize
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what they were trying to do here but uh so we've we've always had traitorous liberals we've always
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had traitorous libtards going back that far bleeding hearts left liberals influenced by socialism and
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communism yeah it's been a battle that's not been exposed to people because they've had control for
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the longest time they've had control of the the media the narrative and it works some people are
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certain i think the internet has allowed people to get their information from so many places and
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that's been a good and a bad thing you've had people to use it to their advantage and you've had
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people to turn it into slop and uh it's i guess it's a growing process people have to go through
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while bringing in east german refugees to fill farm quotas in the may of 1956 he temporarily dispensed with
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normal security screening procedures entirely so he just led a ton of communist east germans into the
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country in the 50s the minister waved off his colleagues hesitation by saying no publicity would
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be given to such action of course and the risk of getting planted communist agents in this short
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period seems rather small and just 10 years earlier the guzenko affair had ignited awareness of communist
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infiltration and soviet spy networks in canada mclean's article at 46 titled backstage at ottawa why did they
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spy indicated half of those accused in the resulting trials were either jewish or married to jews
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indicating an ethno-religious angle beyond ideological or political influence so minister
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pickersgill was more aware of the public sentiment at the time closely monitoring his correspondence to
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gauge the citizenry's opinion even stating that during the april 1955 cabinet meeting
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on the whole the majority of the population was against immigration most of the time additionally a march
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1956 memo sent to the minister noted canadians were split on the matter of immigration and that they
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showed greater unanimity when given a chance to vote on discriminatory immigration at the present time
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is it harder for people or some countries to get into canada than it is for others do you approve or
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disapprove of this policy and approve was 59 disapprove was 24 and no opinion 17 so yeah so they had to work
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in 56 a lot of the a bunch more jews come and four years after communist extremists as well they they
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do you have you heard about this yes i i know yeah it's hilarious it's absolutely just calling a
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machine is so funny yeah uh there's something else that you were talking about in there
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um the heart affair when i forget his first name but he was voted into office but he wasn't allowed
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to come into the house of commons because back then you had to have a field uh you had to take
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an oath or you had to say the lord's prayer and he couldn't say it because he was jewish
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so jews were banned prior to the heart affair it was actually the name papino
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uh papino was talking on his behalf i don't think it started out that way he was
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against him coming in i should look this up what year is that the heart affair
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i can't speak for that i i can't remember the the heart affair but that that sounds about right
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probably a legacy policy left over um that they had yet to change it's interesting that it was that late
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to to uh to pop up yeah i have to think of when that was
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uh he would await the opening of the session of the legislature in quebec the following january
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heart caused controversy when being jewish he swore his oath on a tanuk is that you say uh
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i couldn't tell you instead of the christian bible and with this his head covered in pepper oh let's see
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so technically british i'll stop um i'll stop reading off of this but uh once i leave you with this quote
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so the green paper um i'll talk a little bit about the green paper in 1975 a special joint
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committee of the senate and the house was created to field public hearings on the green paper
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this committee was tasked with collecting input and then creating its own recommendations for
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parliamentary action based on the interference sorry interfacing with the public on the ground the
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public was poorly represented proxies of canada's communist party and other pro-immigration
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groups often hijacked these public hearings their disruptive tactics helping activists
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bully their way through meetings with the end goal of disbanding them entirely
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the committee heard mostly from national organizations special interest groups
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and individuals already involved with immigration initiatives
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martin o'connell the co-chair of the joint community admitted that his group had not reached
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the general public there is some doubt that the committee members had any intention of listening to
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the public in the first place they turned their backs firmly on what they categorized as racist
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mail or those presentations that they can contain that they deemed to be irrational anti-immigration
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beliefs considering that the public was not happy or at the very least skeptical of immigration one
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could easily imagine any detraction of such policy would be characterized as irrational and discarded
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the green paper hearings only lasted six months and this was intentional and here's a direct quote
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it did not reach the average canadian for one simple reason because the minister and the cabinet did not
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trust the average canadian to respond in a positive way on this issue of immigration and that this
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would create more trouble than it was worth as a result of this view they did not want to commit
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the funds to organize extensive public participation and made only a minimal effort to mobilize the media
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on behalf of a truly national debate so in other words they didn't publicize the findings of the green
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paper because in 1970 80 percent of canadians were against immigration so they didn't fund this research
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going public to the media because it completely disproved what they were trying to do and the
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claims that they were making at the time so they just ran this through they just shoehorned it
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they just shoehorned yeah in a stream of third world ever since right now the special interest
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groups involved uh the communist party of canada the italian community in toronto and montreal the jewish
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community as well as ukrainian uh ukrainian and russian communities were all active in pushing for
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mass immigration in the 60s and 70s wow and it's a very complicated situation it is unlike the united
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states or britain i have constantly tried to tell this to people who have a very americanized view
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you know how how these things play out in the 40s and through the 60s they're you know and yes they
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overlap yes they have a lot of similarities but there are some distinctions here here our first european
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immigrants were against us they were just as against us as the rest of them yeah yeah these
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stories i didn't know like especially the eugenics office of alberta that's wild figure i'm gonna have
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to be checking that out alberta eugenics board it's not like they were it's not like they were sterilizing
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ukrainians willy-nilly it was only criminals they also did it to indigenous uh criminals who were convicted
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of whatever hysterical people as well people confined to asylums um and the purpose was to
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keep a majority anglo population of the province of alberta and ironically they got that idea from the
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u.s because the u.s many u.s states had their own eugenics boards at the time yeah that's right
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yeah there's so much history that uh no they'd rather just tell you that white man came stole
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everything there was just so much goodness here that uh was just stolen and destroyed we wrecked
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yep so um it's getting it's getting late i gotta i gotta hit a two we should call it it's been three
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hours i appreciate your company tonight yeah that was fun we should do more and uh i'm looking forward
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to your spaces i'm gonna go back and listen to the last one yeah i think i will do a deep dive
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on the flq and just sort of lay out the groundwork yeah because it it that too was a very complicated
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situation because the federal government was trying to appease french canadian nationalists
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while also stomping their most aggressive manifestation of it at the time right they
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were trying to bring french canada into this uh multicultural project i mean they dumped it later
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on they they abandoned the idea of biculturalism and and the and bilingualism almost immediately
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they speed ran for multiculturalism as soon as it was expedient to ditch um but trudeau was caught in
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this quagmire because he was a quebecer he was trying to get french canada on board with his
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multinational project um you know making these concessions to french canadians in the federal
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government while also crushing the separatist movement so it's yeah just very very fascinating
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very complicated situation pivotal too like most of uh ontario and canada like they they didn't really
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know what was going on they didn't know quebec they didn't live in quebec they didn't do no like
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like no all right take it easy it was good yeah you had yourself a good night yeah likewise good
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luck with your bear situation yeah i'm i need to go take care of that actually i heard a couple of
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noises i'm like ah i'll wait so yeah i need to get out there i'll get everything set up all right have
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a good night dark cheers yeah well i hope everybody enjoyed tonight thanks everybody for coming um
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um i guess jeremy's on tomorrow night and uh yeah that was fun there's so much history in canada but
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you have to make it fun and interesting to listen to because a lot of the old documentaries suck
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i always wanted to do a drunk history with people like i wanted to do with uh ryan dawson
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do drunk history on the jews and stuff like that and then you get people to act out what they say it
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was funny when uh comedy central did it or whoever did it but yeah all right guys you have yourselves a