00:42:34.340as a result of mass immigration to make a fundamental alteration to the character of our
00:42:38.660population. Large-scale immigration from the Orient would change the fundamental composition1.00
00:42:44.700of the Canadian population. These men understood that the foundation of a nation, of a society,
00:42:52.840was the people, and that immigration policy must be put in place in order to protect that.1.00
00:42:58.700That's why they limited the number of people that were coming here. That's why they limited the0.69
00:43:02.540source countries from which these people came to ensure cultural compatibility with the existing
00:43:09.220ethnos. To say these people just wanted Canada to be a post-national economic zone of liberal
00:43:18.500values of Plato and Socrates is complete nonsense. Throughout the debate, I engaged very openly. I
00:43:26.420talked about Canadian history, Canadian identity. I talked about immigration policy, what we should
00:43:32.340do going forward in order to protect our economy and our society our culture and dimpy kept going
00:43:39.100back making casting expressions and and putting out this pseudo-intellectual babble about western
00:43:45.920civilization and plato and in socrates and all this these men did not build canada
00:43:52.020it was built by men like sir johnny mcdonald it was built by men like samuel de champlain
00:43:59.260men that people that dimpy bra does not understand does not have any connection to
00:44:04.040then when she talks about thomas pain when she talks about the the declaration of independence
00:44:10.960this is when you know her panties get wet this is when she really gets excited because what she
00:44:16.100sees herself as is a piece of western civilization which is just a chapter within american hegemonic
00:44:22.900power western civilization is a thing for sure there are overarching things that that unite
00:44:32.040all sorts of it's just really european civilization let's be honest western
00:44:37.120civilization why do they call it western civilization to include israel
00:44:40.320it's european civilization it's it's it's europe it's canada it's it's america it's australia
00:44:49.980it's all these countries of european roots but dimpy wants to to to move the goalposts she wants
00:44:56.140to call it western civilization in order to make it an abstraction to make it something that can
00:45:01.960include her in in a wider swath of people the reality is these these western this western
00:45:09.640civilization this wet these western civilization values whatever you want to call it it was only
00:45:15.140possible because of european stock was only possible because of christian christian morality
00:45:22.240this is what created western civilization the greatest civilization that has ever existed
00:45:28.400but dimpy thinks that you know preaching virtue and excellence in plato uh is sufficient i don't
00:45:37.680think she gave a pathway for what was what was necessary necessary to preserve canadian identity
00:45:42.660how are we deporting people she wants to deport heather heather our communist uh bachelor of arts
00:45:49.820students with blue hair she thinks heather should be deported but ranjit singh who just arrived off
00:45:55.280of the boat who says he claims that he's read plato he's good to go he's good to go because
00:46:01.420he's excellent and she doesn't even grapple really with the the fact that excellence has not been a
00:46:10.980standard in canadian immigration policy for the last few decades they've dropped the standards
00:46:17.460lower and lower and lower this is literally we can look at the point the average in the point
00:46:21.140system in 2023 they dropped it down to an average of 75 points down from over a thousand points
00:46:26.820hundreds of points to a thousand points down to 75 points so what do we do if all these people
00:46:34.820that were brought here maybe they have citizenship but they're not excellent as dimpy says should
00:46:39.860they be removed dimpy was didn't want to give any sort of concrete positions any sort of concrete
00:46:45.820solutions and as soon as i talked about taking away citizenship even in the most fringe cases
00:46:50.540criminal rapists terrorists obviously the government should have tools to revoke citizenship
00:46:59.080mistakes can be made citizenship citizenship can be given to the wrong person when you're letting0.63
00:47:04.760in over a million people a year you're gonna let in some bad apples what do you mean we can't
00:47:10.800reverse mistakes what do you mean we can't reverse citizenship from a criminal rapist no he should
00:47:18.480sit in our jails why this guy isn't our problem he never should have been let in he can go back0.90
00:47:24.260and this is this is a red line for so many of these civnat types so
00:47:29.840it was a fun debate there's lots of good clips
00:47:35.360i wasn't perfect i'll do better next time guys i'll do better next time i'll be a bit better
00:47:43.440prepared i'm used to chatting with you guys i'm used to just ranting for two hours uh i'm not
00:47:50.440used to sitting within a debate format i haven't done that since high school we'll do better next
00:47:56.180time and i think hopefully hopefully all these people calling me a retard calling me low iq
00:48:03.200will put their money where their math is maybe this has encouraged them to take more debates0.86
00:48:09.300look daniel's a retard we can debate him bring it on bring it on0.81
00:48:13.940i can tell you were in your llc mode last night maybe for the after show that's when that's when0.94
00:48:21.600it really got fun yeah yeah i liked when when when dimpy said if i believe that canada has a
00:48:33.920french heritage that we should just let in infinity immigrants from haitian from haiti
00:48:40.480what haitians aren't french they speak french maybe they speak some creole pigeon dialect of
00:48:48.100French. That's not what I believe. They're not ethnically French. I don't even think we should0.98
00:48:54.000be allowing ethnically French people into Canada. I think that Franco-Canadians are a distinct1.00
00:48:59.280ethnicity. We must protect that. And that French people cannot, they're probably better to integrate
00:49:03.600into Canadian society, French, French-Canadian society than most immigrants. But we need to1.00
00:49:07.700shut the doors completely, not allow infinite Haitians into Canada. She so poorly understands1.00
00:49:13.120what we believe. And also what she preaches is just so anti-Canadian that we should assimilate
00:49:19.040the French. I love the French. I love Canada's French history. It's beautiful.
00:49:25.640It's something that inspires the soul. It's a great aspect of our history. And Dimpy believes
00:49:32.980that it should be erased. She's so clearly influenced by Americans. She so clearly wants
00:49:41.140to be a part of America rather than a part of Canada, she should go there. That's what I told0.97
00:49:46.180her. I said I would be virtuous. When we got into power, I wouldn't deport her back to India. That
00:49:50.220would be cruel. We'll deport her to America. We'll let them deal with her. It's clearly where she1.00
00:49:57.480wants to be. I never did get to answer that question. The real debate that everyone wanted
00:50:04.720to have last night. Should Dempy Brard be deported? Should Dempy Brard be deported?
00:50:10.940And while it's easy to make things personal, obviously she's been very cruel, very nasty to me.
00:50:17.180It's easy to make things personal. But let's look at our, let's look at our remigration plan. Where
00:50:21.940would she be qualified? Where would she qualify? I believe she's a citizen. She's not a permanent
00:50:26.520resident. She's not a temporary foreign worker. She's not illegal. She's not a criminal. So she0.95
00:50:29.960wouldn't she wouldn't qualify for most of these groups the question is really and this is a
00:50:35.280question i didn't get to ask her last night is were her parents citizens when she was born
00:50:43.280or when her brother was born that's an interesting question is dimpy bra an anchor baby that's what
00:50:51.040we need to know that's the first step because if she is indeed an anchor baby then we can see her
00:50:58.940her her citizenship revoked and her removed from the country other than that it's a question of0.94
00:51:03.400if she's a subversive agent because she does she does preach a very americanist message0.84
00:51:09.320she's clearly loyal to the american regime over canada's
00:51:12.140is she a security threat to canada is she is is she a threat to canada's social cohesion
00:51:19.800there could be an argument for that there could be an argument for that but the big question is
00:51:26.040is dimpy bra an anchor baby we'll have to we'll have to wait and see i didn't get to answer this
00:51:33.320time maybe we'll have to ask her next time i'm sorry guys i failed we we should have drilled
00:51:39.940down on the the most important question should dimpy bar be deported so that's those are my
00:51:46.100thoughts on the on the debate it was fun it was fun we obviously won the debate despite the
00:51:54.840screeching of the commentariat the civ nat cpc shell commentariat this is the the most important
00:52:02.080disagreement that we really didn't get to get into is dimpy bra she suggests that another great
00:52:08.900super chat the date night fund from our friend lion of the north 96 20 a reminder to all loyalists
00:52:14.280renew your membership for year two and a question how much do i have to donate to the date night
00:52:18.880fund to get one of those few ensign shield pins that allegedly exist god bless from outquest thank
00:52:25.260you so much line of the north i don't know who you are but send me a dm on telegram we'll see
00:52:29.300if we can make something work we'll see if we can make something work just just for you patriot if
00:52:33.540you have my telegram if you do have my telegram if you are indeed uh one of our great guys from
00:52:39.840out west you know how to get in touch with me we can see you or we can make work i don't have a pin
00:52:43.580on guys i don't have a pin on what am i doing we got to be pin maxing at all times
00:52:49.880the great reveal which pin do you guys think i'm going to be wearing
00:52:54.260which pin do you think i'm going to be wearing do we have our guesses
00:52:59.180the closest one to my hand it's the sir john a mcdonald fin we got the sir john a mcdonald
00:53:06.440uh uh so so the big the big question was how do we actually achieve our political goals
00:53:16.400and and dimpy brar was was not clear about this she criticized she said you don't need to support
00:53:22.220the dominion society she says the dominion society is a problem it's only going to make
00:53:26.240the right look bad me me first of all the conservative party does not need my help
00:53:35.020losing elections they're perfectly good at that they got blown out in the last election you can't
00:53:41.080blame me for that the dominion society didn't even exist before the last election the conservative
00:53:45.240party certainly doesn't need any help losing elections and you can't blame me for their bad
00:53:49.740track record as well i'm not a conservative we're very clear about that left right liberal
00:53:57.940conservative labels labels labels that's not what we care about we're nationalists
00:54:02.120we believe that the ancestral continuity of canada must be preserved in order to protect
00:54:08.100canada's uh culture and identity and we're open to any any party to vote for any party in order to
00:54:16.340to protect that vision dimpy says the only way to to do this is through the conservative movement
00:54:25.180not through the conservative party through the conservative movement what does that mean
00:54:28.160she says i don't have any power sure i'm an ad i'm an activist i'm an advocate
00:54:33.740dimpy doesn't have any power either neither do all these these uh loser influencers that are
00:54:41.240criticizing me and calling me low iq none of these have none of these people have any power
00:54:45.580they have less power than i do to be honest i have a huge organization behind me i can get
00:54:52.020stuff done in every single city in the country within a few days these people can't do that
00:54:58.260these people don't have volunteers members ready to fight ready to sacrifice to achieve
00:55:06.080their political goals they just talk on the internet and dimpy says the conservative
00:55:11.280movement will fix this what does that mean how are you going to achieve your ideas because i've put
00:55:18.360forward a very explicit strategy. We are going to use multimedia content and social media in order
00:55:25.940to promote a message. Popularize ideas. Some of those people are going to become members.
00:55:32.760We're going to bring those members into an organization, build community groups,
00:55:36.040build grassroots networks in order to further advance that message into the real world through
00:55:40.860print literature, through flyers, through posters, through knocking on doors, through in-person
00:55:46.800events through demonstrations. We're going to take some of them and we're going to build a
00:55:51.640research team to elaborate on our ideas and develop complete policy papers that can be
00:55:58.920provided to governments and political parties. We're going to take some of them and make sure
00:56:05.220they conceal their power level. They hide their identities and they infiltrate institutions like
00:56:10.320political parties, like governments, like elite institutions. This is our strategy.
00:56:21.000This is how we are going to make a difference. We are going to coordinate a large voting block
00:56:25.360of people. We're going to promote a message, influence the general public, bring them into
00:56:30.160an organization where we can create a voting block in order to create leverage over existing
00:56:35.220political parties, regardless of where they may be. We can sign up for the Liberal Party,
00:56:39.580we can sign up for the conservative party, we can vote in nomination contests to make sure we
00:56:43.520select candidates or run as candidates in different political parties to ensure that we have people
00:56:48.600that are ideologically aligned with us within every single political party. And during elections,
00:56:54.940we'll guide people on who to vote for, we'll score different political parties, we'll encourage
00:56:59.900people to vote or not to vote at all, depending on how they line up with the most important issues,
00:57:04.760which are demographic change and mass immigration. This is how we are going to create change within
00:57:09.020in our political system. That's my strategy. I'm very explicit about that. I'm very clear about
00:57:14.060that. Dimpy just says, the conservative movement will fix things. You don't need the Dominion
00:57:20.040Society because public opinion's already on our side. So much good that's doing for us.
00:57:26.620Public opinion has always been against immigration for years. Beyond a blip in the early 2000s where
00:57:34.320where immigration was popular if you go back from the founding of canada to now immigration has
00:57:41.060always been there's always been a majority of canadians against it and yet immigration keeps
00:57:45.400going up and up and up why because these groups these canadians are not organized they're atomized
00:57:51.640and thus they can be ignored by the political party who are more loyal to economic interests
00:57:56.940interests, their own political interests, organized loud groups of activists. This is
00:58:03.180the problem. So yes, we do need something. Good ideas and public sentiment are not enough. You
00:58:09.580need organization in order to actually create leverage over political parties and push them
00:58:15.420to do what is necessary to adopt policies and punish them if they don't. This is what's necessary.
00:58:23.280so she says i'm not that we're not relevant that we're not necessary that we're counterproductive
00:58:27.820how are we counterproductive who are we hurting we're hurting we're not conservatives we're
00:58:33.620nationalists i'm not running in elections i'm not splitting the vote i'm not preventing the
00:58:39.300conservative party from winning i will tell my supporters not to vote for them if they don't
00:58:43.340adopt remigration but they also shouldn't vote for the liberals if they don't adopt remigration
00:58:48.620it's very simple. You do not own our support. You have to earn it. And that's what these people
00:58:56.480don't understand. They think we just have to, don't touch it. Don't touch it. Don't criticize
00:59:00.360the conservatives or else they'll lose in the next election. Conservatives will probably lose
00:59:05.400in the next election no matter what because they're really bad at politics. If you want to
00:59:11.860win, you have to earn our support. We are the type of swing voters that you need to win over
00:59:16.760if you're going to win the next election so we're gonna start playing the game you have to earn our
00:59:23.100support if you want to win she says jamil javani is a champion look at me i spilled all over myself
00:59:34.600she says jamil javani he's the only person uh campaigning against the the temporary foreign
00:59:43.360worker program and what do they do they disrupt his events we have never disrupted any events
00:59:47.660that's not what we do we do have some nice young men show up dress nicely ask respectful questions
00:59:54.840about his views on canadian culture and society and immigration policy
01:00:00.820i do like that he's opposed the temporary foreign worker program but to be honest he hasn't done
01:00:08.120anything to stop it any more than i have the temporary foreign worker program still exists
01:00:12.660they've reduced the numbers but that's the carny government that's done that it's not jammel
01:00:17.900javani's credit so i do appreciate any conservative mp for speaking out about it but that doesn't
01:00:23.280mean they're going to be immune from us showing up at events and asking them tough questions
01:00:27.460we're not disruptive but we're always going to hold their fleet their feet to the fly
01:00:34.900we're always going to hold their feet to the fire and push them to do better go further it's not1.00
01:00:41.380good enough we're not we're not settling for the lesser of two evils anymore we want remigration0.99
01:00:48.860we want to protect our identity and culture and if you're not going to do that then you're part0.50
01:00:54.220of the problem regardless of what party that you run for so dimpy dimpy was full of you know names
01:01:03.240and references to random philosophers and all this stuff but she did not have any substantive0.93
01:01:08.180solutions to the immigration crisis she put forward the same civic nationalists you just
01:01:15.520have to love this country and be excellent what does that mean does that mean we get rid of
01:01:20.340everyone who is not excellent who does not love this country there are many
01:01:24.760that's the big that's the big mistake i made guys i should have asked more questions
01:01:33.560i should have asked more questions and made dimpy i i was a bit too reactive in explaining myself
01:01:39.480i do like to hear myself speak but i should have demanded that she explain herself more
01:01:44.860because if she believes in excellence if she believes uh in western civilization what about
01:01:51.100all these people that don't measure up to that what if there's a not excellent person that was
01:01:57.440given citizenship should that be revoked what if there if there are canadians real canadians
01:02:03.300heritage canadians that that don't measure up to uh her standard of excellence in western
01:02:08.260civilization should those people be removed where should they go the reality is we have very clear
01:02:16.900ideas very clear proposals and these people they just want to criticize they just want to call us
01:02:22.260racist make implications dimpy said things like everyone calls our founders racist i don't think
01:02:32.720our founders are racist but daniel's racist because he agrees with the founders like what
01:02:37.420do these sentences what do these statements even mean they're they're completely incoherent so
01:02:42.340i don't want to get up to uh too too too stuck in the weeds talking about dimpy uh it's a fun
01:02:50.200debate go check it out i hope we can do more debates in the future and a big thanks to guys
01:02:54.640over at elevate report for hosting that a lot of a lot of people have obviously been uh skeptical to
01:03:00.520to engage with uh with the dominion society with myself scared of being you know blacklisted by
01:03:08.840the conservatives or called racist or extremist which didn't really happen i don't think
01:03:13.060because we're pretty nice guys we're not that we're not that crazy we're sensible centrists
01:03:19.640we have very moderate opinions about immigration that are shared by the vast majority of canadians
01:03:25.340So it's great to see platforms becoming more comfortable hosting these debates, having these controversial conversations. Imperial says, Daniel, could I save her? You can do better. You can do better, my brother. Come on. Set higher standards for yourself.
01:03:42.400so that's all i have to say about that i'm sure there's lots more to be said
01:03:49.320uh we could go back we could play it back react to every single question but uh you know that
01:03:56.900would be a bit much i think um debate destiny that would be fun uh go tell him to debate me
01:04:12.400thank you for the super chat from jim the crazy for 279 we really appreciate it
01:04:20.400daniel we need to talk about the coffee spill on my letter with the pin i don't think i spilled
01:04:26.920coffee on anything usually i do those in the evening i'm not i'm not i'm not drinking coffee
01:04:31.900anymore but if i did it was a special gift to you my friend
01:04:37.640um so the uh let's move on to the next topic uh we'll touch on the nato article we'll touch uh i
01:04:50.640do want to just uh quickly talk about the bc election that was one of the funniest moments
01:04:55.040debate last night dimpy dimpy blames our good friend max genest for for nuking klf's career
01:05:03.400Carrie Lynn Finley's career in the BC Conservatives. And I'm like, I'm doing some
01:05:07.320quick math. Wait, if it wasn't for Max Genest, then KLF would be still leader. Then maybe the
01:05:12.660BC Conservatives wouldn't want. If it wasn't for Max Genest, then Lauren Dirksen wouldn't be the0.98
01:05:16.600leader of the BC Conservatives. The majority, the super majority government for the BC Conservatives
01:05:23.260is completely Max Genest's fault. Wow. Incredible influence for the young man. So that was the big
01:05:29.140news from last week the bc conservatives ended up winning the election with a massive result
01:05:33.880a massive result what they're calling the first the first be uh conservative government in british
01:05:41.640columbia in 92 years in 93 years they got 63 seats to the ndps 28 to the greens too
01:05:49.400a massive result for the very young party um it is it is it is impressive it is impressive
01:09:47.980And there was so much screeching from people, the grassroots, they're stripping over, they're stamping on the grassroots, this is so bad.
01:09:58.820Why is having a democratic election the best way to choose a leader?
01:10:02.960In fact, unless there is a massive result, like we saw with Pierre Pauli, where you get 80% of the vote, if there's going to be a result where there's 50-50, it creates chaos and division within the party.
01:10:16.260that was the situation with carolyn finley where she won with you know 51 52 percent of the vote
01:10:25.060and uh the same thing happened when with max and bernier uh in the in the ppc he won
01:10:33.120he lost at 49 51 and the party completely fell apart we have dimpy in the chat
01:10:38.280dimpy in the chat i knew you were watching i knew you were watching dimpy i knew you couldn't stay
01:10:45.100away. Do you have anything interesting to say? We can have another debate if you still want to
01:11:02.340keep talking. I'm available. But these leadership elections is such an arbitrary way to select a
01:11:11.300leader that can be incredibly damaging to a political party and certainly not choose a
01:11:16.520leader that can actually decisively win an election. So this is another example of how
01:11:21.420overrated democracy is. Parties should have a more distinct culture within them in order to
01:11:29.700select a leader that they think that they can win elections rather than just like hoping that
01:11:34.500whoever signs up the most members, whoever can sell the most $25 memberships is the best to win.
01:11:40.860And what this incentivizes is a lot of ethnic politics, is a lot of pandering to different groups, because in areas like British Columbia, there are very organized communities, especially in areas like Surrey and Richmond, which you can win over en masse by making pandering promises to these communities, which can have undue influences, even outside, especially outside of a Democratic general election, have huge sway because they don't care.
01:12:09.160they don't have any loyalty to the party brand they'll sign up they'll buy memberships and
01:12:15.340they'll be able to have undue sway over the party it's really it's really overrated and I think
01:12:21.000Lauren Dirksen regardless of what you think of his politics and we'll have to wait and see what
01:12:25.140he actually does as leader is a great example about how you know hand selecting a leader can
01:12:31.660be much more effective for a political party than anything else the last thing I'd like to go over
01:12:39.160the last thing i'd like to go over is it's just this nato article did you guys see this
01:12:46.600dimpy says hi hi hi hi hi hi we'll have a question period at the end dimpy you can ask
01:12:52.840more questions i'm i'm happy to to answer them you don't get to talk over me this time i mean
01:13:00.120i can send you a link if you if you want to jump on this stream too dimpy we can have round we can
01:13:05.640can have round three you know round three maybe a tiebreaker i i would say we i won the first two
01:13:12.660rounds but i'll give you a third chance
01:13:15.540so we have this article here disinformation rebranded the dominion society of canada and
01:13:30.920lessons from the afd i have nothing to do with the afd obviously there is but let's let's read
01:13:39.280what uh was dorgan gray had to say in recent years ethno-nationalist movements in western world have
01:13:47.320gained greater visibility pushing once fringe ideas towards the mainstream at the core of
01:13:53.400these movements is the belief that national belonging is rooted in race and ancestry
01:13:57.720sure under this logic being born in a country or even holding legal citizenship does not
01:14:04.060necessarily make someone a member of the nation what warrants closer examination is how these
01:14:08.740movements use selective interpretations of statistics misleading demographic claims
01:14:14.060and conspiracy theories to justify exclusionary methods wow that's quite the quite the accusation
01:14:20.940the dominion society of canada is an example of this movement a self-proclaimed nationalist
01:14:25.900organization advocating for Canadian identity. I love how they'll never let us just have the term
01:14:32.120nationalist. You know, so often nationalists is like smeared as an evil term, but even then they
01:14:38.020won't let us have it. They always say self-proclaimed. Despite this framing, the Canadian
01:14:44.500Anti-Hate Network, or as I prefer to call it, Elvin Balgord's blog, has identified the group
01:14:49.840as white nationalist, pointing to the hardline racial and ethnic exclusion found in its proposed
01:14:55.160policies of course our policies do not have any sort of ethnic exclusion in them our definition
01:15:01.460of canadian identity of the canadian nation is definitely exclusive but our policies all focused
01:15:07.820on immigration status and national security social cohesion not not not ethnicity i do not say
01:15:16.760chinese people need to be deported i do not say indian people need to be deported i say that we1.00
01:15:22.500We need to reverse, we need to stop permanent residencies, annul them and re-audit them1.00
01:15:27.160and remove people who are not economically productive and are threatening our social
01:40:53.440What are your thoughts on the increasing prevalence of activists getting debanked? I think it's terrible. It's something that I'm very concerned about that we're taking measures to prevent. It's not something that we've had to deal with yet, thank goodness.
01:41:07.220but it is a scary tool used by used by the establishment in order to curb the power of
01:41:13.580of activists i mean like especially just going through domcon we were only able to navigate
01:41:18.440that difficult situation because we had those financial resources if they had just shut down
01:41:22.180our bank account it would have shut down the event pretty pretty easily there wouldn't have
01:41:25.600much we could have done with that region by region tour merch pins t-shirts when no i don't
01:41:32.740think we'll have custom merch for every one of those
01:41:37.220i think tyree needs to fix the digital media campaign i think we have pretty good digital
01:41:41.780media but if you want to if you want to if you if you think you have all the answers ryan
01:41:47.100why don't you get involved and help us like we are a movement that is propelled by our members
01:41:53.340i don't have all the answers i've never said that if you have actual legitimate feedback if you're
01:41:58.920not just going to whine and chat if you actually want to be a part of of the solution you can get
01:42:04.040involved it's not that hard where can i watch the debate you can you can head over to the
01:42:16.880elevate report on on youtube uh there's a couple of there's two different streams you can watch
01:42:22.060with me and dimpy at least your followers got to see my dog exactly a good boy either either