In this episode of Long Live Canada, host Daniel Tyree gives us an update on the ongoing drama in Aurelia, a look at the "Day of Action" in Toronto, and a bit of Canadian politics.
00:14:54.960They're saying we don't deserve sovereignty
00:14:57.540because of what's going on uh in these uh during these forest fires absolutely we should have
00:15:03.420current conservatives pushing back on this uh on this commentary from from our from american
00:15:09.080from our american neighbors from these people down south yet you get all these people in the
00:15:15.540conservative movement or the conservative party saying oh anyone that pushes back against america
00:15:21.120as just an elbows up liberal. I want to, I would simply put, if the right, if the conservative
00:15:31.500party, if the conservative movement is going to seed anti-Americanism as a concept to the left,
00:15:37.820that is a recipe to lose elections forever. As we've said multiple times, anti-Americanism is
00:15:45.060a core part of Canadian identity. Canada would not exist if it weren't for, Canada only exists
00:15:50.960because we're an alternative to the Americans, right? We decided not to be Americans and to have
00:15:56.620a separate country on the northern half of the continent. And that exists right in our blood
00:16:01.200memory. We saw it so starkly during the last election where the liberals were able to
00:16:04.700jump on this anti-Americanist sentiment much more effectively than the United States. And we're able
00:16:09.700to flip, snatch victory from the jaws of defeat solely on American relations. And if the conservatives
00:16:19.720aren't going to learn that lesson if they're just going to continue to cede anti-americanism if
00:16:23.740they're going to be the american party to the liberals anti-american party it doesn't even
00:16:26.920matter the rest of the policies the liberals will continue to win so the conservatives need to wake
00:16:31.300up this is a big opportunity for pierre polyev to pivot his messaging a huge opportunity to push
00:16:36.940back on people like john james and other american politicians who have been speaking out attacking
00:16:42.320canada over what's going on in our country but we get silence from pierre polyev
00:16:46.660it's virtue signaling at the end of the day but he's seen as too Americanist by the public that's
00:16:52.880why he lost the election this was a great opportunity for him to defend defend Canada
00:16:57.480to stand up for our country for our people for our sovereignty and instead it's crickets it's
00:17:03.240so more and more dismaying things coming out of the Americans so a little side topic I didn't0.91
00:17:12.080have that on the schedule but i thought it's important to talk about it's important to talk
00:17:18.100about it's it's literally what so many canadians are breathing into their lungs today so i thought
00:17:22.080i'd be remiss to to not speak about it a bit is the conservative party tied to the republican
00:17:29.320party not really but the conservative party has just become kind of the americanist party they
00:17:34.300stand for very similar things of the republican party they stand for liberalism for integration
00:17:39.740with the united states so many things which historically they didn't historically liberals
00:17:44.680were the continentalist integrationist party there was a flip during the kind of the 70s the 80s
00:17:51.700where the americans kind of became the more liberal the more americanist option and it's
00:17:57.720really it's something they've suffered from this entire time yeah
00:18:03.220on that note i do want to flip over to you know the main topic the main topic yes yes read
00:18:16.720grant's books fellas listen to big ponkley do the readings reach out info at dominion society.cl
00:18:25.640give you the reading list as big ponkley's suggesting it's on there george grant's lament
00:18:31.380for a nation it's very important to understand that era of history and uh the the the the impacts
00:18:38.100that uh america has had on our sovereignty um economically culturally and so on george grant
00:18:44.740campuses excellently through the shorter book so definitely read lament reach out to info at
00:18:51.940dominion society to get the full reading list do the readings i love a loyalist who does his
00:18:59.460readings it's so important that we understand the game that we understand our history that's how we
00:19:04.700win we need to be smarter we need to be more well read than our opposition that's how we beat them
00:19:11.400so do your readings folks do your readings reach out get the get the book list Tristan Jones has a
00:19:19.540has a keen eye there is a new pin there is a new pin I have a little teaser for you this evening
00:19:24.680it will be released next next week a new pin especially for our two-year members
00:19:31.080only for the people that signed up in year one they're on renewal they'll be getting this new
00:19:35.880special pin yeah also read sir johnny's biography i've been working through it i've been working
00:19:42.520through it i have um the young politician there by donald creighton i haven't finished it yet it's
00:19:48.760a long book and i don't have enough i don't have enough time to read nowadays you guys keep me too
00:19:52.440busy with the Dominion Society. So now the big topic, the big topic, the ongoing drama
00:20:01.680out of Aurelia. I can't believe it, guys. I can't believe it. I have not even launched
00:20:08.960I have not even launched our Save Champlain campaign, our Save Champlain campaign. Say
00:20:14.900that five times fast. And we've become the epicenter of so much drama in the local Aureliot
00:20:22.440news. So maybe you are the villain. I'm not the villain. I'm not the villain. I'm trying to save
00:20:28.780everything, Tristan. But if they need me to be, if they need me to be the villain, I'll be the
00:20:35.260villain. I'll be the villain. We're going to have fun with it. That's for sure. So I alluded last
00:20:41.680week to an article that was coming out there's been two articles that have come out on us from
00:20:48.160a really matters since the um since uh since we last spoke about this drama so they did i don't
00:20:56.560know if i told you this i reached out to them to submit an op-ed to respond to all the other op-eds
00:21:01.760that they were publishing on a letter to the editor in their case and they refused to publish my letter
00:21:07.040to the editor i thought that was unprofessional but instead they conducted an interview with me
00:21:11.680and wrote and wrote uh an interesting article here we can here we can look at it here we go
00:21:18.000canadian nationalist group plans city-wide canvas over champlain group aims to knock on every door
00:21:25.280build a single issue campaign ahead of the municipal election founder denies involvement
00:21:30.080in monument untarping this is a big long article i suggest you guys read it it's actually pretty
00:21:36.620good pretty fair i will say pretty fair i will say but we'll go through it we'll go through it
00:21:40.920because it's i gotta keep you guys up to date i gotta keep you guys up to date with the drama
00:21:45.340so a controversial nationalist organization that advocates for remigration set his plans to knock
00:21:51.060on every single door in aurelia as part of a campaign to return the samuel sean plain monument
00:21:55.320and make the issue a focal point in the falls municipal election daniel tyree founder and
00:22:00.260chairman of the dominion society that's me told aurelia matters the organization is preparing
00:22:04.180for a massive day of action in a really as part of a longer term strategy to pressure city council
00:22:08.720to return the monument we will still we are still mobilizing our troops what we expect
00:22:13.120there will be a significant contingent coming down to aurelia to get the job done tyree said
00:22:16.680we're looking to hit every house in a single day across aurelia it means society has drawn
00:22:23.180national attention for its political positions and activities the canadian anti-hit network has
00:22:28.260described it as part of canada's white nationalist movement blah blah a characterization that tyree
00:22:33.060denied during a recent interview with aurelia matters tyree said that the organization advocates
00:22:37.020for remigration, which he describes as policies intended to reverse the immigration flows to
00:22:41.240preserve Canada, what he called Canada's cultural continuity. Tyree frames the campaign as a fight
00:22:46.880against what he calls the erasure of Canadian history. However, local Indigenous advocate
00:22:51.660Crystal Brooks, Crystal Brooks, who we talked about extensively last week, said the campaign
00:22:55.960ignores the issues that have driven opposition to the movement. What does Crystal Brooks know?
00:23:03.260we haven't even launched our campaign and she's saying that our campaign uh excludes uh history or0.96
00:23:09.540uh their their perspective as well i learned through this article that crystal brooks is not
00:23:14.640only an activist locally that's been attacking us she's the one that vandalized the the statue
00:23:20.400before it was taken down again she's the one that spray painted rama says no on the monument so i
00:23:25.080find it very very ironic that these people are interviewing her taking her seriously when she's
00:23:30.560literally a vandal. Meanwhile, they're giving me a hard time for organizing a door knocking
00:23:36.740campaign, a leafleting campaign, a petition. Is that a fair comparison? We literally have
00:23:43.720people on the left vandalizing to get get their way. Whereas like they're trying to frame me as
00:23:48.980some crazy radical villain for going door to door, mobilizing volunteers, collecting petition
00:23:55.100signatures it's it's it's quite wild it's quite wild the double standards so she says the issue
00:24:02.140is not the monument itself the issue is consent the issue is due process the issue is accurate
00:24:06.780historic history telling and that's what exactly what i stand for accurate history telling
00:24:13.020tyree would not reveal the can uh when the canvassing is expected to begin because we have
00:24:17.660opsec we don't want to put anyone's uh in danger we don't want to be protested we don't want to
00:24:23.260to deal with activists trying to derail our operations so yes it's a secret it's a secret
00:24:28.380but he says the group plans to collect signatures for a petition that will ultimately be presented
00:24:33.700to city council efforts should could extend well beyond a single day of door knocking we have
00:24:38.580municipal elections coming this october 26th and this has become a massive issue in arelia across
00:24:43.620the country he said i think it could be a central issue in the municipal elections later this year
00:24:49.460tyree said the dominion society will look to build a single issue campaign over the coming
00:24:53.920months to push for action from the council if council does not act or moves towards permanently
00:24:58.620removing the monument he says that the organization intends to make that an election issue we'll be
00:25:03.520there to make sure that the politicians who are defying the will of the people are right rightly
00:25:06.880punished at the ballot box he said i think that having the upcoming elections in mind is very
00:25:12.420important when you're dealing with democratically elected politicians the comments come after
00:25:16.380members of the Dominion Society recently traveled to Aurelia to film a video around the empty
00:25:20.220monument pedestal in Coocheting Beach Park calling for the statue's return. The organization has also
00:25:25.560faced questions about their earlier incident in which the tarp covering the monument was removed
00:25:30.020under the cover of darkness. Tyree flatly denied the Dominion Society had any involvement. We had
00:25:34.740no involvement in that operation, he said. Tyree said neither he nor the organization has been
00:25:38.740contacted by the police in connection with the incident when asked about previous Aurelia
00:25:43.020matters reporting that linked the dominion society to the tarp removal at the uh after
00:25:47.680dominion society signage was found at the site tyree said the organization distributes posters
00:25:51.480widely across the country anyone that orders merchandise from our store gets a free poster
00:25:55.340he said i don't think that the presence of the poster means anything
00:25:58.140tyree acknowledged the reposting of the video showing the monument being uncovered but said
00:26:03.900he did not know who created it or who appeared in it i'm happy to see that there are people pushing
00:26:07.940back and want to see the statue protected whether or not i agree with everyone's tactics
00:26:11.800when asked whether anyone in the video was a dominion society members tyree said no not to
00:26:16.520my knowledge our organization is committed to peaceful lawful civic engagement and provided a
00:26:21.560providing a pathway for like-minded canadians to engage with political process he says
00:26:25.640we don't get involved in vandalism or anything like that when asked whether we he knew who
00:26:31.200created the video or posted on from an x account that is now suspended showing the monument being
00:26:35.520uncovered tyree said he did not tyree rejected the characterization oh he said the champlain
00:26:43.980monument controversy came to his attention through national and local news coverage i myself and a
00:26:49.640big follower of canadian history i'm a big fan of samuel to champlain this is a big part of our
00:26:53.420organization's mandate to promote and defend canadian heritage that's the thing they keep
00:26:57.640trying to make it about all about remigration as if we stand for nothing else and the we have a
00:27:02.740broad mandate as an organization. We stand not only for re-migration, which we actually do.
00:27:08.300It's crucial to protect the identity of our nation, but more than that, to protect the0.63
00:27:13.860identity of our nation, we must stand for our history, our heritage, our monuments.
00:27:17.980This whole trend of tearing down statues and renaming streets and trying to reinvent Canadian
00:27:23.980history to appease certain activists or certain political leanings is just not acceptable anymore.
00:27:31.640And it's not just us, right? It's a huge swath of the Canadian public that is just absolutely tired of this. I remind you all, 70% of Aurelians want to see the statue restored. What we're representing here is not a fringe argument. And I'm not asking you to agree with re-migration. I'm not asking you to agree with everything I've ever said or everything that the organization stands for.
00:27:53.660but in case you didn't notice no one else is coming to Aurelia to get people organized to
00:27:59.360defend this statue this is where we come into the to the picture we have lots of members there in
00:28:04.780Aurelia we want to help them to protect this monument so we bring our resources we bring
00:28:13.380our expertise we're able to make content we're able to make petitions we're able to run a
00:28:18.160professional campaign in order to put pressure on these municipal politicians and of course they
00:28:22.320don't like it of course they don't like it they don't want people threatening their jobs
00:28:25.320but this is democracy and we need to play the game that's the thing the nationalist movement
00:28:33.020the right has not been playing the game of politics people just show up and vote every
00:28:37.160few years but that's not what politics is it's we have to play the long game right and that's
00:28:43.100what we're playing here right people people signing our petition will also be giving us
00:28:48.700their contact information and we'll be able to follow up with them to see if they want to volunteer
00:28:51.860to again not for the Dominion Society but to protect this monument if they want to to help
00:28:58.500donate to do more for this campaign if they want to stay apprised to updates we can build an
00:29:04.660organization in Aurelia who could get behind a new mayoral candidate or a new city council candidate
00:29:11.700in order to to get influence directly on the uh in the city council in order to to protect this
00:29:20.040monument. So yes, we can absolutely make this a flashpoint of the election. This will be a great
00:29:24.080chance to test our systems and test our strategy and to influence the politics in this small city.
00:29:32.100So this is exactly the sentiment, right? We're playing the game. We're getting involved in
00:29:37.900democracy. Terry rejected the characterization that the Dominion Society is a white nationalist
00:29:46.960organization i described as a canadian nationalist organization he said i think canadian identity is
00:29:51.680more complex than simply being reduced to white or non-white tyree acknowledged that dominion society
00:29:57.120advocates for re-migration which he describes as reverse migration it's a bundle of policies
00:30:01.200in order to create cultural economic political incentives to reverse the flows of migration in
00:30:05.280order to preserve canada's cultural continuity he said tyree said the organization's policy
00:30:10.960focus on people in canada legally criminals temporary foreign workers and other temporary
00:30:15.280migrants while also proposing changes to the citizenship and permanent residency rules in
00:30:19.820cases involving fraud abuse of our immigration laws national security and what he describes as
00:30:25.120social cohesion when asked whether canadian citizens could be affected tyree said the
00:30:29.720organization supports expanding existing citizen revocation laws beyond fraud to include additional
00:30:35.200circumstances tyree said that the dominion society has more than 3 000 members across the country
00:30:39.480including a handful in the orillia area while the monument is located in orillia he rejects the idea
00:30:44.280that this is that its future is solely a local matter samuel de champlain is not just a piece
00:30:49.480of aurelius history although he is he is a part of canada's history tyree said he's a central
00:30:54.240character in the founding of the country and a very important person thematically to the
00:30:57.560representation of our country tyree said the campaign is part of a broader effort by the
00:31:01.800dominion society to defend monuments and what it considers canadian heritage he pointed to the
00:31:06.880group's involvement in the campaign surrounding sir john a mcdonald statue in hamilton and
00:31:11.880appearances by members before city council regarding monument in and around queen's park
00:31:17.260shout out to matt baker all of these situations i think represent a broader cultural shift in
00:31:22.420canada that has happened over the last five ten years to this rewriting of array uh an erasure
00:31:28.380of canadian history that people are getting growingly tired of he said tyree characterized
00:31:33.860that shift as a cultural Marxist approach and almost a communist approach to erasing our history
00:31:38.960no one thinks that canadian history is perfect that every chapter of canadian history is above
00:31:44.040question but we cannot progress as a nation by erasing our past he said we have to remember and
00:31:49.360respect and learn from it not erase it much of the local controversy however has not centered
00:31:53.920solely on champlain but on the monument's depiction and positioning of indigenous people
00:31:59.020tyree said he personally studied the monument and does not believe its configuration necessarily
00:32:04.280depicts Indigenous people as inferior. I don't think it necessarily represents a hierarchy of
00:32:09.980putting certain people above others other than elevating Champlain above everyone which I think
00:32:14.280is justified. Champlain was an incredible figure and a great leader without whom Canada very well
00:32:19.780may not exist so I think putting him above all the other Europeans depicted there as well as the
00:32:24.760Indigenous is quite reasonable. Tyree also defended the monument's depiction of Christian missionaries
00:32:30.720indigenous conversion the christian settlers they're converting first nations people to
00:32:35.040christianity good or bad this did happen and i don't think there's a problem with having a
00:32:39.440depiction of our history there he said that people can disagree whether conversion was good or bad
00:32:44.640but argue it remains a part of canada's history it's not about being objectively good or objectively
00:32:50.320bad it's about our history tyree said he would support changes to the plaque or interpretive
00:32:55.360materials surrounding the monument but not significant changes to the monument itself
00:32:58.640i think it should be put back up in his original condition as original a condition as possible he
00:33:03.040said i'd be happy to see adjustments to the plaque to explain the historical uh the different
00:33:07.920histories and different perspectives but i think the monument itself should be restored in its
00:33:11.760original fashion or as close as possible with the expertise available brooks who's a vandal who's a
00:33:17.280vandal who has been an outspoken throughout the champlain monument debate was arrested on a
00:33:22.640mischief charge after she spray painted the statue in may says tyree's comments overlook
00:33:27.200what many indigenous people have consistently said throughout the debate he really lacks a
00:33:31.520deeper understanding of what the actual issues are she said she doesn't know my views at all
00:33:37.280the issue is not the monument itself the issue is consent the issue is due process the issue is not
00:33:42.240is accurate storytelling but if we're talking about accurate storytelling i question why we should
00:33:49.840why we need consent from the rama to maintain a statue that has been there for 101 years depicting
00:33:56.560a man who got to the area before the Rama got there. To say that the Rama, although they have0.55
00:34:02.300been there for a hundred years, hundreds of years, so have the European settlers, so have heritage
00:34:07.960Canadians. Our roots go back to 1615 when Champlain arrived perhaps a hundred years before the Rama
00:34:14.260did. So why do they, why do we need to ask their permission to keep up a monument to him? I don't0.92
00:34:19.740see why. Please tell me the accurate storytelling, Crystal, that I'm misunderstanding here, that
00:34:26.500suggests why this statue should be taken down or why you get a veto over it or why
00:34:32.660we need consent from them to keep a statue up. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. So she says,0.96
00:34:39.160I don't understand. No, I understand the history perfectly well, Crystal. It's you, the one that
00:34:44.460are trying to revise history to make Champlain out to be some sort of evil villain. When he
00:34:50.280collaborated, when he formed mutually beneficial partnerships with the indigenous tribes that were
00:34:56.220there at the time. The Huron, Wendat, and many other tribes throughout what is now Southern
00:35:01.280Ontario and Southern Quebec. So please do enlighten me, Crystal, on what I'm misunderstanding.
00:35:09.240Brooks says she believes that the issue has always been about consent process and accurately
00:35:13.080representing Indigenous history rather than simply whether the monument should stand. This
00:35:16.880issue is so much bigger than the monument, she said. It's about racism. It's about white supremacy.
00:35:20.780It's about due process and free prior informed consent. It's about the erasure of Indigenous
00:35:25.360as people she's just so filled with buzzwords no substance she's not actually engaging with
00:35:30.740anything i'm i'm saying or anything i will say once we actually start the campaign
00:35:35.140tyree questioned the role of the chippewas of rama first nation in the controversy arguing
00:35:41.520that the huron wendat were in the area during the champlain 1615 visit it's strange to me that
00:35:46.840the chippewa of rama should have some sort of veto acclaimed territorial authority when champlain
00:35:50.980was actually their first creating productive mutually beneficial relationships with the
00:35:55.240Huron-Wendat tribe in order to facilitate permanent settlement of the French in Canada he said
00:35:59.820for them to insert themselves now due to people that are depicted in the monument that are
00:36:05.820technically of a different tribe seems to be a poor unreasonable interpretation of the monument
00:36:10.280and of Canadian history. Tyree added that the Rama should be respected and acknowledged for
00:36:15.280its important legacy in the region but we don't rise up other narratives of history by tearing
00:36:20.200down ones that also exist because people might disagree with the aesthetics. Brooks rejected
00:36:25.720Tyree's comments about the Rama's role in the discussion. This is our traditional territory,
00:36:30.100she said. We have a right to know about things that are happening in our traditional lands. We
00:36:34.380have a right to have a say in that. These are our traditional lands too, right? European settlers
00:36:41.740have been here since the 1600s when Champlain arrived. These are our territories as well. We
00:36:48.340can have productive conversations between us but to pretend that you should have a veto over us
00:36:54.760is ridiculous and in fact Champlain is a beautiful monument to the cooperation between us so we
00:37:00.460should come together yes perhaps we can do more to show the history of the Rama people in the area0.84
00:37:05.620but that doesn't come from erasing Champlain and what he did with the Huron-Wendat at the time
00:37:12.400I find it's very revisionist while she's accusing me of that it's classic
00:37:16.380tyree said he has not spoken with the ramah chief ted edwards or other representatives of
00:37:25.540the first nation asked whether the dominion society sought indigenous perspectives before
00:37:29.740preparing the came i don't i don't think it's particularly necessary to advance the campaign
00:37:33.400that we are prepared i know the history i don't need their permission i don't need to understand
00:37:38.420their side of it i understand what's going on i understand the the what they're trying to leverage
00:37:43.320here, but I don't need their permission or their insights in order to advance and defend the
00:37:47.880interests of my people. My blood is French Canadian. My family arrived here in 1649 to
00:37:53.820live in settlements that were established by Champlain and the people that were coming
00:37:59.760through the early 1600s. I'm defending my people's legacy just as they want to defend
00:38:05.460their people's legacy. So they try and, again, they try and make it out that they're the good
00:38:10.420guys and we're the bad guys we're pushing back on that we both think we're the good guys we can find
00:38:15.500we can meet we can meet in the middle we can find some compromise but to say it's your traditional
00:38:21.220land not my traditional land is just ridiculous i'm happy to meet with canadians of all differing
00:38:27.620perspectives and backgrounds as we continue to advance our cause daniel said i'm very open to
00:38:32.700speaking with people even though that i might disagree with them tyree said the organization's
00:38:37.000door-to-door campaign will be led by volunteers who will be instructed to act respectfully if
00:38:42.300residents do not want to engage with them. We're not here to harass people. We're here to raise
00:38:46.600awareness for an issue. If people don't want to speak with us, just like people don't want to
00:38:50.280speak with people going door-to-door selling stuff and so on every day, they'll politely move on to
00:38:54.900the next house. Brooks said the planned canvassing campaign worries her, particularly because Tyree
00:39:00.280says volunteers hope to visit every home in Aurelia. Their message is very triggering for a lot of
00:39:05.500people and i'm concerned about how that would be received we're going do you want to sign a petition
00:39:12.460do you believe samuel champlain's like this is what it's going to be hi well hi i'm from the
00:39:18.540dominion society are you aware that the samuel de champlain statue in kuching park was torn down
00:39:24.440we believe it should be put back up 70 of it really doesn't agree with us and we're collecting
00:39:29.780signatures for a petition to bring to city council would you like to add your name to the growing
00:39:35.080list of aurelians this is the interaction that people are going to be having and she's like it's
00:39:39.240going to be so triggering what are people going to think we're not going to go like it's not going to
00:39:45.080be triggering if they say no or i don't want to talk to you guys we're going to go and move on
00:39:49.000to the next house we're not going to argue with people and all this stuff it's we're collecting
00:39:53.560signatures this isn't this isn't that triggering trigger warning trigger warning brooke said she
00:39:59.720also worries the campaign could reveal where outspoken critics and members of marginalized
00:40:03.800communities live like we're gonna we're gonna mark off where every non-white person lives so0.93
00:40:09.640that a bus can come by later and pick them up and throw them on planes this is ridiculous this is0.99
00:40:14.280ridiculous we're just looking for other support we're just looking for people who support the0.64
00:40:19.320monument if they were to knock on my door then they would know exactly where i live she said0.97
00:40:25.080that's a problem brooke no one cares crystal no one cares0.58
00:40:29.640let me be very clear no one cares where you live no one cares about no one's coming to harass you0.99
00:40:39.040if you don't want to sign the petition we're going to move on to the next house
00:40:41.720our volunteers aren't even going to recognize you you're so self-important
00:40:45.720brooks says she believes that the campaign could invade residents privacy and disturb their peace
00:40:53.180you can't guarantee that she said when asked about tyree's assurance that volunteers would
00:40:57.300be respectful. He can only take responsibility when it does happen. Yeah, I take responsibility
00:41:01.600for my volunteers and they're going to do an excellent job. Tyree said the campaign and
00:41:05.440Aurelia will focus on finding supporters, collecting signature petitions, petition signatures and
00:41:09.800bringing those signatures to council. When asked by why Aurelia residents should view the monument
00:41:14.400campaign separately from the Dominion Society broader political agenda, Tyree said that the
00:41:17.860petition has a specific purpose. We're here with a petition to restore Champlain. It's not about
00:41:23.460direction of the country or anything like this. You don't have to agree with everything I've ever
00:41:28.340said. You don't have to agree with everything our organization has done. What we're doing is
00:41:32.560collecting signatures for a petition to advance a cause that's politically popular in this area
00:41:37.500and is being ignored by the current administration. The city of Orillia said it does not regulate the
00:41:42.960circulation of surveys by external organizations and would not comment on the Dominion Society's
00:41:48.080advocacy activities oh yeah we'll see about that in the next part as a municipality we do not
00:41:53.680engage in political discourse regarding the activities of an advocacy or survey
00:41:57.920survey initiatives of external organizations as angela grenier the city's manager of customer
00:42:02.880service and communications accordingly we will not be responding to media inquiries about the topic
00:42:07.680tyree's interview with a really matters after he contacted the publication to object to previous
00:42:12.080coverage of both his organization and his activities in aurelia tyree said the dominion
00:42:16.560Society expects to return to Aurelia within the next few weeks. There will be some other
00:42:20.360interesting things, he said, adding that the organization plans to provide advanced notice
00:42:24.140of future activities. So that's the first article. I thought it was pretty good, pretty fair. They
00:42:29.480used a very nice picture of me at the top. I think we come across as the normal, reasonable people
00:42:36.660while Crystal Brooks is just going on and dumping jargon and stuff like this, not engaging with any
00:42:42.620the substance of anything that I'm saying I think I think we represented nationalists in the in the
00:42:48.060pro-champagne position very well and this was a great article it was I thought it was professional
00:42:53.260of the city to say we're not going to engage we're not going to comment although that didn't last as
00:42:58.140you'll see in a moment so some good coverage possibly possibly the best article that's been
00:43:04.580written about the Dominion Society since our lodge so we call that a W oh look look we have
00:43:10.100and finally off work hope I didn't miss out on the meat and potatoes no we're just getting into it
00:43:14.500we're just getting into it so that's the that's the synopsis that's where that's that's my read
00:43:23.020along of this great long article in case you can't read I did it for you uh that's what's
00:43:28.900going on the first article quite good but not everyone was so happy that we were getting some
00:43:36.220good reasonable coverage. In fact, I believe this article quickly aggrieved our friends over at the
00:43:42.520Canadian Anti-Hate Network, who were absolutely fuming and seething that they would give us some
00:43:48.240reasonable coverage. Don't you know those guys are evil? So they probably reached out to Aurelia
00:43:54.920Matters and started harassing them and demanding they correct the record. And as well, this must
00:44:01.560have resulted in more pressure on the mayor's office which resulted in this second article
00:44:06.800and go let's see so we saw in the previous article what did they say
00:44:10.360that the city of Irelia would not comment on our activities is what they said on July 13th
00:44:21.060so that was July 13th it was on a it was on Monday
00:44:25.940and then what the next day the next day uh on monday they said no we're not gonna call that
00:44:37.040on anything and the next day the mayor posts this on facebook so we get another article and
00:44:42.740it really matters mayor denounces discriminatory ideology ahead of dominion society door-to-door
00:44:48.040campaign gotten more coverage out of aurelia in reminder reminder reminder we have not launched
00:44:57.480our campaign yet all of this coverage is because i spent one day in aurelia filming a video
00:45:03.400that's it that's my crime that's my crime i went to aurelia for one day i spent a day trip near the
00:45:10.200beach with my friends, my good friends, Ken and Greg, and we've been, now we've gotten
00:45:17.180three articles written, two opinion pieces written, and we've been denounced by the mayor.
00:45:24.240So let's read what Mayor Don, Mayor Don McIsaacs, who I thought might be a voice of reason here,
00:45:31.140right? I thought he might be our guy, our guy, our guy, right? He put back up the statue in the
00:45:38.420first place, right? He represented the pro-Champagne position on their little working group for years,
00:45:44.580going back to 2017. And then more recently, he used his powers to reinstall the statue on the
00:45:50.660plinth. They said, you didn't get permission from city council to do that. You didn't get permission
00:45:55.060from the working group to do that. And he said, oh, well, we needed some place to store it. And
00:45:59.920the cheapest, most practical place to store it was right back where it belongs. Based? Based?
00:46:05.760based mayor Don McIsaac's? And then he comes down and he starts agitating saying, oh, we might have
00:46:12.540to melt it down. Like he, it seems like he's trying to foment a reaction from the public in
00:46:18.000order to, to get the demos on his side so he can put it back up. Right. I'm thinking, and he's not
00:46:24.360commenting on us. I'm thinking, no, he might be our guy. He might be our guy. Maybe, maybe, maybe
00:46:28.700we can mobilize enough people to make sure he gets reelected. Maybe we can push him back to victory,
00:46:33.460but no but no he has to disavow so disappointing let's read what he had to say he posts on
00:46:41.280facebook we are aware of planned activity by a self-proclaimed nationalist group
00:46:47.300self-proclaimed why do you have to put in self-proclaimed the self-proclaimed mayor
00:46:52.600had this to say about our self-proclaimed nationalist group we are planned we are aware
00:46:58.280of planned activity by the self-proclaimed nationalist group to go door to door in the
00:47:02.640city to canvass residents and businesses about returning the Champlain Monument to Coocheting
00:47:06.600Park. While canvassing is permitted in the city, council does not endorse or participate in
00:47:11.800political advocacy, exclusionary beliefs, or discriminatory ideology promoted by groups of
00:47:16.780this nature. We stand for a community that is safe, welcoming, respectful, and inclusive. Inclusive
00:47:22.380for all. There is no place in our city for hate or racism, and we denounce any and all forms of
00:47:28.000it full stop. That is not who we are. If anyone feels unsafe or harassed during a visit to your
00:47:33.500home or a place of business by any such organization or during encounters within the
00:47:38.400community, we encourage you to please call the OPP. Oh no. If someone comes out to you and asks
00:47:44.720you to sign a petition, you might have to call the police. You might have to call the police.
00:47:50.720It's absolutely ridiculous. This is the mayor. This is the mayor. It's one thing when Crystal0.97
00:47:55.340Brooks an unhinged activist is is fear-mongering but the mayor is saying if someone asks you to1.00
00:48:03.020if someone politely asks you to sign a petition please don't hesitate to call the police it's
00:48:08.300insane it's insane i can't believe it let's read the whole article because this was clearly
00:48:15.820fomented by the by the anti-hate network and by the way when mr tyler evans called me to get my
00:48:21.900comments on this. He clearly had not even seen that the mayor had disavowed us, which he then
00:48:26.680made the headline of his article. I told him this. I told him that the mayor had made a comment on
00:48:32.700this so I could respond to it in the article. It was clearly a complete result of our friends at
00:48:38.960the Anti-Hate Network. As a planned door-to-door canvassing campaign by the controversial Dominion
00:48:44.100Society of Canada has prompted a sharp denunciation by Aurelia Mayor Don McIsaacs and warnings that
00:48:50.140the Canadian Anti-Hate Network about the organization's beliefs and broader political
00:48:53.880objectives. The group, which advocates for re-migration, plans to canvass Aurelia homes
00:48:57.980and gather signatures supporting the return of the Samuel de Champlain Monument in Coocheting Beach
00:49:01.700Park. The Dominion Society says the campaign is focused solely on the monument. Critics, however,
00:49:07.020argue that the effort is also providing the organization with publicity and opportunity
00:49:10.900to promote its broader anti-immigration platform. In a statement posted to Facebook earlier this
00:49:16.680week. McIsaac said canvassing is permitted in Aurelia, but does not support the ideology he
00:49:21.200associates with the group. This is just hilarious, right? Like literally in the news coverage,
00:49:25.940they're like, they're just trying to get news coverage. So we're going to write news coverage
00:49:29.100about them trying to get news coverage. Do you guys see what you're doing? Do you guys see what
00:49:33.820you're doing? And this isn't, this isn't some grand strategy by me, right? I really like Samuel
00:49:40.720Deshaun Plain. I read an 800 page book biography about Samuel Deshaun Plain. I wasn't that familiar
00:49:48.460with him until not very recently. And I found that he was one of the most remarkable people
00:49:54.020in Canadian society. And a year later, this starts going on. So I happen to run this great
00:49:59.840organization called the Dominion Society that we can leverage to push back on stuff like this,
00:50:05.660that we can help like-minded Canadians to achieve our political goals, whether that be
00:50:12.200normalizing re-migration or smaller things like protecting statues, right? So this isn't some
00:50:18.180grand plan. I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to, to, to sigh off people into believing in
00:50:25.620re-migration. I, this is a beautiful statue of a great man that I want to see protected. Let me be,
00:50:32.140LBV perfectly clear. I love Samuel de Champlain. I love beautiful public works. I love Canadian
00:50:39.040history. This is the intersection of those three things. I'm not trying to promote remigration
00:50:43.700here, although them reporting on it, remigration, remigration, remigration. It is, we do want to0.99
00:50:50.400normalize these ideas. They are always walking into the optics trap, but that's not my game.
00:50:55.040I would have been happy to not talk about remigration at all. They're the ones forcing1.00
00:50:59.100it into the conversation. They're the ones that want to promote our ideas and the concept, the
00:51:03.620word. Remember, right from day one, right from the launch video in day one, I said, we want to
00:51:09.860normalize remigration. We want people to hear the word, understand what it means, and feel comfortable1.00
00:51:14.660saying it. And this is exactly what they're doing. They're introducing tons of people to
00:51:19.760remigration. They're introducing even more describing what it means, quoting our policy,
00:51:26.460quoting what we mean by remigration this is not what I wanted they're not like this is like
00:51:35.120structurally a part of our organization it's kind of inherent trap card but it wasn't our strategy0.94
00:51:38.960going into this campaign I like Champlain that's it but we'll take it we'll take the coverage
00:51:45.100but so ironic just so ironic they're trying to get publicity he says in the news article about
00:51:54.320us giving us publicity okay okay let's go back while canvassing is permitted in the city council
00:52:01.800does not endorse okay we already read all this stuff um the canadian anti-hate network has
00:52:06.880described the dominion society as part of canada's white nationalist movement pointing to its public
00:52:10.560rhetoric and relationships with individuals and groups operating within canada's far-right
00:52:14.580political network elizabeth simons who some suggest is not a real person by the way deputy
00:52:21.120director of the canadian anti-hat network said there there is significant collaboration and
00:52:25.520cross-pollination amongst the dominion society leaderships and members of other organizations
00:52:30.280across the country she says without evidence and baselessly she said those connections can
00:52:37.840include appearing on one another's live streams and online discussions promoting each other's
00:52:42.060contents and participating in overlapping political networks spoilers in my opinion
00:52:51.300when they say nationalist they mean white nationalist simon said well in my opinion
00:52:57.360when they say anti-hate network they mean anti-canadian network you see how this game works
00:53:02.400it's a way of trying to sort or water down what they really are i'm very clear about what we are
00:53:09.820I'm hiding nothing. Simon says, Simon, Simon says, Simon's also raises concerns about the
00:53:17.060Dominion Society's advocacy for remigration. She says the group initially framed the policy
00:53:21.360as applying to people in Canada illegally or those convicted of crimes, but she believes
00:53:26.240its public statements have increasingly suggested a broader target. This is not true. From day one,
00:53:31.720we've had the same policy. The only adjustment I've made to the, to our, what was a 10 point
00:53:37.300policy plan. I made an 11 point policy plan to include a more elaborate position on the asylum
00:53:43.180system. That is the only change I have made since day one to our policy program. So we have always
00:53:48.240stood for remigrating illegals. We have always stood for remigrating criminals. We have always1.00
00:53:53.520stood for remigrating temporary foreign workers, international mobility program. We've always stood
00:53:59.200for changing laws around citizenship and permanent residency. There's no crazy psyop conspiracy
00:54:05.520see going on yes we do talk about illegals those that's the top priority those are the people
00:54:10.680that everyone can agree shouldn't be here that Doug Ford agrees shouldn't be here Dougler
00:54:15.480right so yes we do talk about illegals and that is often the first thing I mentioned because it
00:54:21.540is step one close the doors get rid of the illegals but I've never hidden our other position
00:54:29.740simon says also said that uh dominion society i can't stop saying simon says
00:54:38.220uh about heritage canadians ethnocultural continuity in a more homogenous society
00:54:43.560provides important context for understanding its political objectives she argued that the
00:54:48.860champlain monument campaign is she argued the champlain monument campaign is not simply
00:54:55.360about a statue. Yes, it is. The statue is really, in my opinion, just an avenue for them to get
00:55:01.420attention, create controversy, and draw people to their membership. I don't care if zero residents
00:55:10.180of Aurelius sign up as a member for the Dominion Society. Let me be clear. I don't care if they all
00:55:16.260disagree with remigration. If you agree that the monument should stay up, you need to sign the0.56
00:55:21.120petition so we can make sure the monument stays up. Because no one else is going to organize
00:55:26.540people to create the political pressure to ensure the monument stays up. No one else is going to do
00:55:31.380it. Your only option is the Dominion Society. And we're going to do this right. Next week,
00:55:37.140you guys are going to, we're going to blow your socks off with what we have planned.
00:55:42.800We have promotional content. We have literature. We have a petition webpage.
00:55:48.480page we have you know email automations to get people organized to get people signing up as
00:55:54.840volunteers we're a serious political organization we're not just some people whining on the internet
00:55:59.280it's not just a trick to try and get you to to believe to sign up for the organization it's not
00:56:04.400just to make money or anything like this in fact we're spending tons of money on this thousands of
00:56:09.740dollars to make this happen in transportation costs printing literature um facebook ads we're
00:56:17.480spending thousands of dollars on this campaign. It's not to enrich ourselves. It's to protect
00:56:22.040this beautiful monument. Despite Dominion Society's social media post stating that Canada should stay
00:56:30.580a white majority country. True. Dominion Society founder and chairman Daniel Tyree rejected the1.00
00:56:35.780Canadian anti-hate network's characterization of the organization calling the network
00:56:39.400an openly partisan group that seeks to dehumanize and delegitimize right-wing activists.
00:56:44.980so true that's the purpose of the anti-hate society they they say this they say they only
00:56:51.980want to attack people on the right that they frame as nazis and when someone calls you a nazi do you
00:56:56.900know what they're trying to do they're trying to dehumanize you to encourage governments to censor
00:57:01.600you violence against you and other types of political persecution that's the entire mandate
00:57:07.860of the canadian anti-hate network that's what they told parliament when alvin balgord the executive
00:57:13.660director was in front of them he said we we we openly anti-fascist and go against the far right
00:57:20.620and he says anyone that disagrees with him is a fascist it's an activist organization that seeks
00:57:25.860to undermine people like me and even more moderate politicians pretty hilarious that they put the
00:57:32.260screenshot in here canada has always been a white majority country and it should say that way yeah
00:57:36.600we should be able to protect our identity in a follow-up interview with a really matters diary
00:57:41.720defends his use of the terms such as ethnocultural identity in homogenous society. I believe that
00:57:47.480these things are inextricably linked. That culture is downstream for the people. Tyree was also asked
00:57:51.920about the Dominion Society's social media poster. Deficting a cartoon figure sweeping up people of
00:57:57.280color with a broom with the caption, it's time to clean up Canada. These guys can't take a meme.0.99
00:58:05.920let's take a moment let's take a moment let's talk about social media strategy guys let's talk
00:58:11.980about social media strategy that meme got millions of views by the way very effective
00:58:17.920propaganda from our from our esteemed propaganda wing yeah well i posted a meme yeah i said canada
00:58:27.300should remain majority white it should it should remain majority canadian for the record i don't
00:58:33.840think Canadians should be replaced by excuse me water check water check um I don't think1.00
00:58:45.660Canadians should be replaced by Swedish people I don't think Canadians should be replaced by German0.99
00:58:49.440people it's more complicated than just being majority white I think Canada should be majority1.00
00:58:53.960Canadian why do I say Canadian should be Canada should be majority white because that's much0.99
00:58:58.880simpler if I say Canada should be majority Canadian I get idiots that say well everyone1.00
00:59:03.160can be canadian canada's always majority canadian because anyone with a passport is canadian0.99
00:59:07.000so yeah i say white because it's more inflammatory it gets more clicks it gets more people's attention
00:59:12.840and that's an important thing to understand about politics and political communications
00:59:18.040you can have the best ideas the best policies but if no one hears them if no one sees them
00:59:23.160if no one knows what they are then it's useless so we need to play the game we need to engagement
00:59:28.680bait we need to we need to have click bait we need to have shocking images that people share
00:59:34.280and starts discussions and gets people arguing the comment sections to take advantage of the
00:59:38.360algorithm this is the social media strategy so yeah we use shocking imagery and memes things
00:59:44.360that are funny we use simple language that's direct because we have more complex language on
00:59:51.400our website right we have we have an 11 point re-migration plan we're working on massive 150
00:59:59.560to 100 page policy documents explaining everything we have substance and long-form content but no one
01:00:07.400is going to read that if they don't find out about it through short form social medias like tick tock
01:00:12.120like uh instagram reels like twitter like sweet short tweets memes all these things are important
01:00:20.360to drive impressions to drive people to our more complicated ideas to drive people to this live
01:00:25.080stream so we can have more substantive conversations on what we mean by these
01:00:29.720shocking inflammatory images so yeah we did post this we did post this image with the
01:00:37.000re-migration broom and the guy in the the green dominion society shirt cleaning up canada
01:00:42.200we need to reverse migration that's what we stand for right and the reality is that the0.96
01:00:52.060bulk of people that have come here have been from china from india from the philippines0.78
01:00:56.920majorly those three countries the large majority of immigration comes from just those three
01:01:01.060countries and yeah those people happen to be non-white so they're depicted here but the point
01:01:07.340is to reverse we're not our remigration plan if they took the time to read through it is not about
01:01:14.400deporting anyone that is a certain ethnicity is not about it's not based on ethnicity at all it's
01:01:20.240based on immigration status it's based on illegals criminals temporary foreign workers
01:01:24.500permanent residents uh uh citizens who compromise their national security and social cohesion now
01:01:31.280these people happen to be non-white they happen to be indians involved in the bishnoy gang or
01:01:37.740indians involved in the calistani movement which is increasingly violent so yes0.90
01:01:45.220it does depict people non-white people getting removed from the country but it's all about
01:01:52.820reversing the recent trends of immigration it's not my fault that the people that they've been0.98
01:01:57.540bringing here for the last decade happened to be just from india and china and the philippines
01:02:02.140and that these countries that are more geographically linguistically culturally
01:02:08.040religiously ethnically distant from canada are a bigger problem to when it comes to integrating
01:02:14.640in canadian society let's finish the article he said the post represented the organization's
01:02:20.240support for remigration and reversing recent trends of immigration the immigration that has
01:02:25.440come to our country over the course of the last few decades has been predominantly from three
01:02:30.120countries. He said, naming China, India, and the Philippines. These are countries that are much
01:02:34.140more linguistically, culturally, religiously, and ethnically different than Canada. Tyree contrasted
01:02:39.600the historic immigration from the United States and the United Kingdom, which he said caused
01:02:44.220fewer difficulties because of cultural, linguistic, and ethnic similarities. People try and charge1.00
01:02:49.120remigration as some sort of racist concept. He said, I would say that remigration is no more
01:02:54.180racist than the immigration policies that brought them here in the first place tyree denied dominion
01:02:58.080society as a neo-nazi or white supremacist members and said that the canadian anti-hate network does
01:03:02.640not have access to my membership list he pointed that the organization's published code of conduct
01:03:07.380which he said rejects hate violence and illegal activity tyree expressed frustration that local
01:03:13.380officials and advocacy organizations are focusing on the dominion society's immigration policies
01:03:17.260rather than the stated purpose of for coming to aurelia this campaign is not about remigration
01:03:21.940he said it's not even about the Romanian society it's about the Champlain monument and preserving
01:03:26.640that addressing McIsaac's statement Tyree accused the local leaders of applying an inconsistent
01:03:32.520definition of inclusivity what they're really saying is we're inclusive unless you disagree
01:03:38.620with the political uh with the political status quo he said if we're actually an inclusive society
01:03:44.220then we should be able to allow political disagreements because that's exactly what they
01:03:47.920they they get on their high horse and they say we're so inclusive but all they mean is inclusivity
01:03:54.620when it comes to skin color and inclusivity is more than skin deep it should be about
01:04:01.520this is a democracy it should be about inclusivity of ideas and as soon as someone who disagrees with
01:04:08.680them even when 70 percent of it really agree with my stance on the champlain monument as soon as
01:04:14.800someone comes to town who advocates for ideas outside of the status quo that some people might
01:04:19.320disagree with all of a sudden they're not welcome and we should be we should have the opp on speed
01:04:24.280dial in case someone gets triggered uh by seeing a green shirt or or a beautiful green hat so0.52
01:04:31.460absolutely ridiculous absolutely ridiculous we love the coverage we love the controversy
01:04:38.400see we love the fight but come on it's about samuel de champlain this isn't some this isn't0.97
01:04:46.380some dastardly planned trick everyone into becoming division society members or re-migrationists
01:04:50.960although that would be a positive development that would be a positive development i won't lie
01:04:54.060but that's not our goal here the goal is to make sure the statue stands
01:04:58.440that's it it's very simple and i think folks will be very impressed when the um
01:05:07.080once the campaign starts rolling up so i i i can't take credit for this one but i posted
01:05:15.900the um the statement there from the mayor in my in my local group chat in the orillia area
01:05:21.940by the way if you want to get into your local group chat you have to become a dominion society
01:05:26.280member you have to be onboarded and you'll be put in touch with dominion society members like-minded
01:05:30.600nationalists that live close to home to build a community around to get involved as an activist
01:05:35.320to have new friends you have to get involved as a member in order to get plugged into your local
01:05:42.920community but and to interact with yours truly i'm in all these groups doing some ship posts
01:05:48.520and interacting answering questions all that sort of stuff all the time so i post this statement
01:05:52.680for the mayor in our central ontario group chat and i said um uh you know activist peacefully uh
01:06:01.720uh calls for the for the protection of the statue the mayor these guys are basically the kkk these
01:06:10.120guys are basically the kkk we must call the police and one of our local guys pointed out that0.65
01:06:15.960ironically ironically the kkk actually wanted to blow up the champlain monument so not only are we0.69
01:06:25.560not the kk obviously but the kkk wanted didn't wouldn't have been on our side the kkk wanted
01:06:31.880the statue destroyed if anything crystal brooks is on the side of the kkk put that in your pipe0.83
01:06:38.120and smoking um look at this remember this ku klux klan would forever regret their expansion0.78
01:06:46.040into the town of barry let's just get them i don't want to go through another full article
01:06:52.040but here quite quickly after becoming acquainted the three klansmen decided that they needed to
01:07:00.920perform some sort of action to cement their commitment to the ideals of the clan and at
01:07:05.880At first, they chose the Champlain Monument in Aurelia for a demonstration of their dedication.
01:07:10.540It was a symbol of Roman Catholicism, so they believed, and as such, was countered to what they thought the KKK stood for.
01:07:18.440Skelly took a revolver from an employee's shop and purchased bullets, dynamite fuse, and blasting caps at a local hardware store on June 10, 1926.
01:07:28.460This would have been shortly, like a year after the statue was first put up.
01:07:33.040the trio was unable to find any means of transportation to orillia because they're0.99
01:07:37.780fucking losers but their determination to make a clear anti-catholic statement that day was0.99
01:07:43.040unwavering so they settled on something nearby skelly butler and lee decided to blow up saint1.00
01:07:48.480mary's catholic church instead so they try and make us out to be an evil kkk hate group0.52
01:07:55.660but ironically the kkk didn't like champlain and wanted champlain removed so the guys
01:08:01.000that are against the dominion society that are against champlain that's the real kkk we're just
01:08:07.000the patriotic canadians that love our past and want to see it remembered and respected not torn
01:08:11.840down and erased so i thought that was quite hilarious quite the coincidence i had no idea
01:08:17.040when i made a silly joke that there was actual historical precedent relating champlain and the
01:08:24.440kkk who would have known who would have known okay that's all i have to say about it really