00:01:58.380hello and welcome to another episode of long live canada with daniel tyree i am your host
00:02:11.280daniel tyree chairman and founder of the dominion society we're here with episode one nice fresh
00:02:19.500start a nice rebrand we're naming the show we're making it official uh we've stuck to it for the
00:02:25.420last few weeks and we're going to stick to it for many weeks more. So I thought it's time to give
00:02:29.860the show a name. So here we're going with Long Live Canada with Daniel Tyree. I think an appropriate
00:02:38.080start for this new launch I thought would be a good way to start would be to tell you guys my
00:02:43.640story. A lot of people, they associate me with the Dominion Society. Some people know me from
00:02:49.820back in my PPC days. But a lot of people don't know where I've come from. So I thought it might
00:02:56.000be fun to let you guys know a bit about myself, a little bit about my story, what drove me to this
00:03:02.200position to launch the Dominion Society. But before we get into that tonight, I think I do
00:03:09.120want to touch a bit about Pierre Polyev's big viral interview with Joe Rogan. There was a few
00:03:17.880few comments made in there that I've already clipped I already posted them on social media
00:03:22.220but I think it's important that we we talk about these things it seems like the the big topic
00:03:27.240uh uh for today at least and I expect for the next few days there'll be a lot of ink spilled
00:03:32.980in the mainstream media seething about uh his decision to go on the show and and so on uh so
00:03:39.280I think it's important to get my take out there before before we're diving in uh with with what
00:03:44.840I had previously planned. As usual, towards the end, we will open the floor, take some
00:03:52.120questions, have a little discussion, see where you guys want to talk about, and then we'll
00:03:58.220wrap it up for tonight. The usual. So let's dive right into things. Pierre Polyev on Joe
00:04:07.260Rogan. So this was a much anticipated appearance for Mr. Paliyev. A lot of people were expecting,
00:04:16.880hoping him to go on the Joe Rogan podcast during the last election. But it's a controversial move.
00:04:24.400A lot of people think it's the wrong move with the anti-American sentiment in this country,
00:04:29.060especially right now with hostile trade negotiations going on with President Trump
00:04:33.280uh and mark carney um i i certainly see see both sides of it i'm sympathetic to
00:04:40.680anti-american sentiments don't get me wrong uh but going going back to to the last election
00:04:47.360um i think the that pierre polyev's main not to get into all of my uh perspectives on
00:04:55.620on the general direction of the of the conservative party but to look at to put my
00:05:01.420political organizer hat back on to to to view things as an objective strategist uh i think the
00:05:08.140the biggest uh kind of mechanical screw-up that the conservative party did do was uh was just not
00:05:15.100doing enough media to be honest uh they were they have a very very uh
00:05:23.100social media focused strategy going direct to voters which i think is effective between elections
00:05:27.500But during election time, I think it's important to reach as many people as possible and leveraging podcasts and the mainstream media to do so is very effective.
00:05:38.680I think he one of their biggest problems, the Conservative Party, was reaching older voters, boomer voters.
00:05:45.380And I think he could have put a lot of these kind of elbows up liberal voters minds at ease by just going on the CDC.
00:05:55.240and I think uh Paul Yev is is competent enough uh in an interview to hold his own against Rosemary
00:06:02.980Barton or whatnot um in avoiding those mainstream media shows I think was very short-sighted by
00:06:09.000them there were obviously going to be hostile interviews but people hate the media uh so taking
00:06:13.780those fights with the right people I think would have been necessary so I think he could have done
00:06:17.600a lot more during the last election to appear on all sorts of alternative media podcasts uh to to
00:06:23.920go on the mainstream media they had such a rally focused social media focused uh strategy uh make
00:06:31.660sure they have complete control over everything they were doing uh and i think it was a really
00:06:36.220flawed strategy so it's interesting to see that they're changing it up they've pierre's made
00:06:42.640appearances on a multiple different broadcasts in the last few weeks he did the the man man's
00:06:46.580bridge one with peter mansbridge he did the uh trigonometry when he was over in the uk now he's
00:06:52.140doing joe joe rogan uh but to be frank i think uh obviously it's it's too too little too late
00:06:58.800um but also i think it just raises a big question of timing uh doing these between elections uh it
00:07:06.660doesn't look like we're going to have an election for for a long time at this point a couple of
00:07:10.860years so doing them at this at this stage i i don't see the value in them you're not going to
00:07:15.800get that sort of momentum shift you're not going to get the there's not going to be the same benefit
00:07:20.920for flooding the zone with all these clips and these viral moments. The upside is just not
00:07:27.720really there, or at least I don't see it. Whereas the risk, the downside still exists.
00:07:34.600Any sort of hangover, his association in general with Joe Rogan and all that baggage that comes
00:07:41.240with that will hold over come the next election, whenever that is. So again, I think this is just
00:07:47.040another kind of missed play another blunder from the conservatives they probably would have been
00:07:52.940better to hold off to do it closer to an election or during an election where there could have been
00:07:57.620more upside right now it seems like it's all risk and no benefit to going on the show the one thing
00:08:04.300i will give them is i think pierre polyev's biggest shortcoming is in comparison to mark
00:08:11.720carney especially during the last election is just that he is so inauthentic and this this
00:08:19.420voters can smell it on you voters young or old it doesn't matter people across the political
00:08:25.100spectrum doesn't matter people want people like authentic people who are just themselves who are
00:08:31.560not scripted who are not being careful with their their language who are just presenting their own
00:08:36.180uh opinions and being themselves and there's something about polyev that's just very
00:08:42.900it's all very controlled it's all very scripted um he he definitely has all sorts of handlers and
00:08:49.460people that are running polls and messaging uh they're just not letting him be himself
00:08:54.820and i i think that became very stark in comparison to mark carney because they're both kind of
00:08:59.220similar politicians on the surface right they're both very economically focused kind of nerdy
00:09:03.940lower energy guys um but it does seem like mark carney is very much more authentically himself
00:09:10.500whereas pauliev's trying to play a character to to try and pander and win win support um so that's a
00:09:18.260big shortcoming and that's one thing i have seen from the conservatives that i would say is a step
00:09:23.540in the right direction um in some of the concept content that they've done especially when he's
00:09:28.660talking about working out and exercise things that seems to be like actual hobbies of polio
00:09:35.380um i think he has come across a bit more authentic and and while he's it's totally like apolitical
00:09:41.220this kind of concept content he's done a couple podcasts he talked a lot about mixed martial arts
00:09:46.260and and and working out and stuff on on joe rogan's podcast and while this stuff is not directly
00:09:51.540political it's not shifting the party in the direction that i would like to see him going
00:09:55.540uh i think it's at least giving you a chance to to present himself as he is and be himself be
00:10:01.460authentic talk about what what uh his interests and passions are um and again if i'm just putting
00:10:07.780on my strategy hat my strategist my political strategist hat um these are these are steps in
00:10:14.660the right direction i think to to appeal to to voters even though like i saw some people saying
00:10:19.540he already has the gym bro demographic locked up uh i think just even people who don't like
00:10:26.840working out or or not passionate about that at least they can see him being himself being
00:10:31.860passionate talking about the things that he cares about so uh i would encourage them to to do more
00:10:36.900of that but i think this interview was uh you know weirdly timed and ultimately i don't think
00:10:43.400it's going to going to affect things very much but there were a few things that he said on the
00:10:50.120podcast that are relevant to canadian identity immigration you know our our main topics here at
00:10:56.180the dominion society so i thought we'd be remiss to not talk a bit about them um so let's uh let's
00:11:03.420play let's play the first one let me know if the audio is not working you know i i i you know got
00:11:09.340guys know me i have my own boomer tech moment so uh if something goes wrong let me let me know
00:11:13.980giving a lot of money to fake fake refugees um people who come in and don't uh actually
00:11:21.900are they're not actually fleeing danger um like i love real refugees my wife was a refugee but
00:11:27.180i have no time for people who are pretending but they're not really and what do you mean by
00:11:31.180pretending to be a refugee how are they doing this they're not actually endangered in their home
00:11:34.540country. So they've come to be declared themselves as students and then wanting to stay declaring a
00:11:41.760refugee status. Oh, and this is common? Yeah, it happens. It happens. And I mean, they just want
00:11:47.200to have a better life. So I don't, I don't begrudge them as people, but we can't, we can't spend money
00:11:52.140on social service, stay enhanced social services, advanced programs that we as Canadians don't get
00:11:58.140for people who are not paying. So you're not opposed to them being there. You're opposed
00:12:01.700them getting Canadian welfare? Well, I'm opposed to them. If they're not real refugees, they shouldn't
00:12:07.380be brought in as refugees. I think we have to distinguish between those people who are actually
00:12:11.860in danger in their home country, which is the definition of a refugee, and someone who just
00:12:16.720wants to come in excess of their proper immigration. Is this that common that it's actually affecting
00:12:24.100your economy? Right now, it's a challenge because we had a big number of international students and
00:12:30.280temporary foreign workers that came in in very large numbers in like two or three years. We were
00:12:36.000bringing in about a million people a year, which in America's terms would be 10 million, like just
00:12:40.700if you're doing per capita. And it really caused a housing shortage, like some places where you have
00:12:47.66026 of these students living in one basement. So we're trying to unwind that now. And how do you
00:12:54.100do that? Well, when their work permit and their visitor visa runs out, then we have to encourage
00:12:59.800them to to head back lawfully right but you don't want to do it ice style no no I don't think we
00:13:07.980need to do that I just think we have to be orderly and lawful about it and is that supported by the
00:13:13.660Canadian people yes because we're a very welcoming country we're a nation of immigrants but we're
00:13:18.280also a nation of laws and we there's a general consensus like across the spectrum in Canada
00:13:25.200that there was the population growth was too fast for like four or five years. And so we're
00:13:33.200trying to unwind that now. So there he is talking about mass immigration, talking about the asylum
00:13:38.840crisis. These are important things to be bringing up. You know, I think he could be giving a lot
00:13:45.100more energy to it and going more in and attacking the asylum system. As we've been discussing on
00:13:51.420the last few episodes the asylum system is so dysfunctional and i think we have to attack it
00:13:55.380right at its core because there's people are have so many uh misunderstandings about what
00:14:02.860asylum is like you start talking about refugees you start talking about the asylum system and
00:14:07.040people have it conjures images of you know journalists being uh persecuted by tyrannical
00:14:16.380governments or or people fleeing war-torn countries and that's just not what the modern
00:14:20.700asylum system is and it's the same here in canada it's the same in the us it's people trying to to
00:14:25.820circumvent the the main immigration pathways it's just people coming here claiming that they're
00:14:30.060asylum claimants and then sitting in a backlog system and taking advantage of all sorts of
00:14:33.820benefits for years and years and years and this is just not acceptable um we shouldn't just be
00:14:39.980attacking fake asylum claimants and fake refugees the whole system is filled with fraud it needs to
00:14:45.900be totally reformatted from the ground up but the most concerning thing that i saw in that clip is
00:14:52.940right there at the end and it was kind of innocuous and you might not have even noticed it but it was
00:14:57.980at the end when pierre describes canada as a very welcoming country we're a nation of immigrants
00:15:03.900and this phrase is poison it needs to be completely expunged from canada's daily life
00:15:09.260from canada's public life we can't accept that from our politicians at all because this is the
00:15:14.380this is the this is the lie that kind of justifies modern mass immigration trends especially to a
00:15:20.620country like canada if canada is a nation of immigrants then who are we to say who can and
00:15:25.900who can't come here uh or or to put any sort of restrictions um if canada is just a home for all
00:15:32.380immigrants then the people that are already here the people that have been here for generations
00:15:35.980have no more state no more stake to the country than the people who might come here next year
00:15:40.380or the year after the year after that this this phrase a nation of immigrants is it's it's a lie
00:15:46.360first of all um like in can in in 1867 when canada was established the population of canada was about
00:15:53.3003.5 million 80 of those people almost 2.5 million people were born here in canada they were born to
00:15:59.780the people who had settled the country for generations our history goes back to the 1600s
00:16:04.740that's when people started to populate canada they didn't come here as immigrants they came here as
00:16:09.300pioneers as settlers as explorers as builders as farmers when they came to this country it wasn't
00:16:15.300to take advantage of social benefits they risked everything to go across an open ocean and to carve
00:16:21.260civilization out of a hostile wilderness so to just conflate them and call them immigrants to
00:16:26.640associate people who are coming here as asylum claimants to take advantage of social programs
00:16:32.520to hope to drop a kid in order to get citizenship uh it's it's totally disingenuous so we really
00:16:38.660need to reject this term. And you might think I'm clutching pearls or drilling into just a simple
00:16:48.240sentence too much. But really, that idea, that concept is foundational to this whole mass
00:16:54.960immigration scheme. And I think if we're going to have productive conversations on immigration and
00:17:00.540taking our country in a new direction, we need to start from that very foundation. We need to
00:17:05.060remember who we are as Canadians and reject the whole immigration scheme. We need to completely
00:17:11.880overhaul how we're doing immigration in Canada. It can't be the main driver of population growth
00:17:16.700anymore. That's not functional. That's not acceptable to the Canadian people. We need,
00:17:22.760like, it should only be supplementary. It should only be in exceptional cases when we need,
00:17:28.220like, very specific type of skills or something like this. And it should only be coming from
00:17:32.380countries that are are consistent with our cultural heritage that will integrate effectively
00:17:38.000into our society we need to question the entire in the conservatives need to question the entire
00:17:44.240outlook on immigration if we're going to productively move the conversation in the
00:17:48.820direction that it needs to go in to to save canada uh keep in mind like the canadian people these
00:17:55.700the the descendants of those original pioneers and settlers were rapidly becoming a minority
00:18:01.480in our own country. And that's not acceptable. The people are the nation and our country is
00:18:06.240transforming as a result of radical mass immigration policies. And Pierre just wants
00:18:12.600to slow things down a bit. He doesn't reject the concept. He needs to put forward ideas of what
00:18:19.800it means to be Canadian that is consistent with his own family. He doesn't want to reject that
00:18:26.120his wife is, is Canadian, which she isn't. She's, she's Venezuelan. She wasn't born here. She wasn't
00:18:31.880like she, her, she doesn't come from our same ethnic stock. And that's fine. That doesn't
00:18:36.260mean necessarily she needs to be sent back, but we need to understand what a Canadian is and what a
00:18:41.500Canadian is. And we have to stop with these kind of post-national concepts of, of Canadian identity.
00:18:46.860So I was, uh, I thought that was one of his only, uh, comments about immigration. And I thought it
00:18:52.240was it was troubling um but this one was probably even worse let's watch it canadian but you know
00:18:59.660the the great thing about canada is we've always sorted our shit out peacefully like the the the
00:19:05.560protestants and catholics tore each other's eyeballs out in europe for like hundreds of years
00:19:10.100and then we came to canada and just got along and and that's the great thing about canada is like
00:19:15.100you can come you know muslims and jews christians uh and uh sorry um protestants and catholics uh
00:19:22.060Hindus and Sikhs they come to Canada and they just get along they live on the same streets
00:19:26.080eventually we all start intermarrying and uh it's a it's a great thing about Canada
00:19:30.700sheesh he could be Justin Trudeau in that clip um how is how is that any different than what
00:19:39.120the liberals have been putting forward for for years so this is not only a disingenuous description
00:19:44.380of modern Canada where multiculturalism is not nearly as functional uh as he's making it seem
00:19:51.720but it's also a disingenuous description of canadian history protestants and catholics
00:19:58.240didn't just come here and instantly get along like that's not canada's story in fact multiculturalism
00:20:05.000or uh the the the varied the the different sects of christianity the different groups coming here
00:20:13.420in the early days our relationship with the indigenous people all of this has been very
00:20:17.780dysfunctional from the very start. There's always been tensions between the English and the French,
00:20:22.400between Catholics and Protestants, between settlers and the indigenous. Any sort of
00:20:28.780multiculturalism, biculturalism has always been a challenge for our country. And it's only become
00:20:33.780more and more complicated and strained as we've moved from biculturalism to multiculturalism,
00:20:41.480as we've imported all of these foreign ethnic groups who have their own interests, who are
00:20:46.780committed to their old foreign countries and who have uh these feuds with uh with other ethnic
00:20:53.340groups that are now playing out in Canada and to say that you know Jews and Muslims come here
00:20:58.960and they just get along like that's that's not true we see we see competing protests between
00:21:06.300especially since October 7th a few years ago we've seen increasing you know hate crimes on
00:21:13.800on synagogues this is it's not due to a rise in white supremacy it's a due to an increase in the
00:21:20.040muslim population who have these intergenerational blood feuds with the with the jewish people
00:21:25.720that should be playing out in the middle east not being playing out here in canada
00:21:29.320he says hindus and sikhs come here and get along no they don't we see them fighting in the streets
00:21:35.400um between hindu and in calistani groups there was a there was a woman
00:21:40.040uh an indian immigrant in in windsor a couple of weeks ago who was who uh is a who posts on
00:21:49.360social media she was an influencer criticizing uh calistan the concept of calistan the calistani
00:21:55.620movement and she was murdered before that they were committing arson on her house
00:22:01.540like these people don't come here and just peacefully coexist like they they as we've
00:22:08.340increased multiculturalism, we've introduced all of these new problems to Canadian society that
00:22:13.480we don't need. We have enough of our own problems as there are. Now we've introduced diaspora
00:22:18.960politics. We've introduced competing ethnic groups who are fighting each other in our streets,
00:22:24.280who are killing each other. We have the Indian government running hits on Calistani
00:22:29.040activists like Singh Nijar a few years ago, it's completely dysfunctional. And Pierre is trying to
00:22:39.480paint over that. No, we're a multicultural society. Everyone just comes here and gets along.
00:22:43.800Like this is so disingenuous. This isn't what modern Canada is. And it shows that Pierre
00:22:50.380just wants to paint over these issues. He wants to ignore them. He wants to pretend that the
00:22:56.620multicultural project of Pierre Trudeau is functional, that it's the way that Canada's
00:23:02.000always been, and that it's not an issue that needs to be discussed or addressed or focused
00:23:08.900on for our politicians. And it's not true. This is the main problem in our society today.
00:23:13.920Canadians are becoming a minority in our country. Foreigners are hijacking our politics for their
00:23:19.460own interests. They're introducing conflicts that should not be here, and they need to go back.
00:23:24.960and Pierre's just clearly not interested in in in discussing these topics in putting forward the
00:23:31.300real solutions that Canadians need in this day and age and I thought that was really disappointing
00:23:37.080but even but even more so that he's lying about Canadian history to just say that Protestants
00:23:44.520and Catholics got along from the start is is so disingenuous and and introducing religions and
00:23:53.360cultures that are more and more distant the the likelihood of of things working out just becomes
00:24:00.120less and less like these cultures just are not compatible with Canada's identity and we need to
00:24:05.440have these difficult conversations and Pierre is just not the guy to do it so I see someone asking
00:24:11.860who should we vote for who should we vote for says Diana Dumas right now I can't I can't support
00:24:18.460voting for anyone um and i think we need to be more picky more choosy have higher standards
00:24:24.780there's just not enough that separating the liberals and the conservatives to justify voting
00:24:29.160for either one of them at this point and they're never going to improve unless we refuse to choose
00:24:35.980the left serve two evils before we say we're not giving anyone's support until they recognize what
00:24:41.600a canadian is like this is a reasonable standard to have as a voter we're not voting for anyone
00:24:47.120unless they're going to stop mass immigration fully no more immigrants and start sending them
00:24:53.220back we need a significant net negative uh negative immigration rate for a for the next
00:25:00.280several years if we're going to preserve our country so until they start doing better until
00:25:05.160they start speaking to canadian interests we're not going to support them so yeah yeah we have
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00:25:34.860end of the day um more questions i i'll try and star them as i see them coming through the chat
00:25:41.020but I will open the floor to questions towards the end of the stream to get to respond to
00:25:48.340everyone who has any sort of questions and wants more insights on a certain topic.
00:25:54.260But the main thing I do want to talk about today in episode one of Long Live Canada is just I
00:26:00.900wanted to take some time to introduce myself because a lot of you may have been just following
00:26:07.760me recently from the Dominion Society. My following has grown significantly since we
00:26:13.620launched last year. But you might not know who I am. And I've received a lot of different kind
00:26:20.300of accusations about who I am or where I came from. People call me a fed or a plant. People
00:26:26.940say I'm Jewish. All sorts of strange things that are just not true. But really, I was particularly
00:26:34.220inspired because I was sent a clip of my best friend Rachel Gilmore and my other best friend
00:26:43.180Evan Balgord talking about me trying to understand why I think the things that I do
00:26:51.260and I thought it would be a good springboard to explain who I am and where my views came from
00:26:59.140and so on before we get into that let's see let's see what uh let's see what evan and uh and and
00:27:04.820rachel had to say about us air says why do these idiots not understand that diversity is a good
00:27:11.380thing which is um i think a deceptively big question but um i don't know if you have any
00:27:16.260kind of i'm gonna give a long answer to this um it's the thing that strikes me all the time and
00:27:23.700i don't think we think or talk about a lot about groups like the dominion society and second sons
00:27:28.100when they're saying that you they want uh like an ethonationalist country or that people can't
00:27:35.620get along or that there's certain groups in society that are inherently violent or criminal
00:27:39.620or can't get along with others is it's just such a defeatist worldview you know if you look at the
00:27:47.460whole course of of human history and evolution we can also talk about like social structures
00:27:52.100evolution of how we relate to each other the new media that we have and we are constantly evolving
00:27:57.300when it comes to like our social evolution as a species and multiculturalism is is part of that
00:28:03.940of course you'll find tons of examples from history but but the globalization is huge and
00:28:07.880then the multiculturalism is a big thing and there's they have such a defeatist worldview
00:28:12.680about it even though it's it seems like a relatively uh new widespread thing in human
00:28:17.080history and i just think that's a little embarrassing for them because they're just
00:28:20.260like these people we can never get along with i'm like well yeah maybe because assholes like you
00:28:25.340right that like make it harder for us to get along with each other because you're constantly
00:28:30.240spreading hate um diversity of course is a wonderful and beautiful and lovely thing
00:28:35.840i couldn't imagine what my life would be like and my own development would be like if i hadn't
00:28:40.580met all the varied groups of people and people that i've met through through my entire life i
00:28:45.080think i'd be so much so much poorer for it um but why don't they get the diversity is a good thing
00:28:51.060some of them don't have any positive experiences with it right you know some of them did not grow
00:28:57.020up around other groups of people or might have had one or two negative experiences or just fucking
00:29:00.680look at the propaganda of of awful things happening that are blamed on groups of people
00:29:05.260right like they've been propagandized to just look at video clips short video clips of like
00:29:09.500a crime occurring where the perpetrator might be an immigrant or something like that and it's like
00:29:13.520yeah a lot of crimes happen every day a lot of crimes don't have that kind of a perpetrator
00:29:17.460but such a spotlight is put on to try to paint a narrative that all members of some group are
00:29:22.280violent or dangerous or whatever and um and unfortunately like with new media it's just
00:29:27.220it's just very effective i'm sorry for uh subjecting you guys to that um but i find it
00:29:35.380very interesting that these people they're they're completely incapable of understanding
00:29:40.720that there might be uh individuals a segment of the population that has a completely different
00:29:45.920uh outlook on the world uh political philosophy that that drives them they're they're only able
00:29:53.000to they they need to put me in this basket where i they can qualify me as some sort of villain
00:29:59.500they they need me to have some sort of origin story where i grew up in a small town away from
00:30:06.520diversity and i must have some negative experiences with with immigrants like i got
00:30:12.960beat up in a back alley by a bunch of black dudes or Indian dudes or something like this when in
00:30:18.920reality I'm very much a product of the modern Canadian multicultural state like to start off
00:30:27.480like I'm not I'm not a paragon of ethnic purity by by any means many people already know like
00:30:35.380while my mother is is a old stock pure lane uh heritage canadian with roots back to the the 1600s
00:30:45.780my my dad is is a mixed race uh child of of two immigrants uh so to i'm very much literally a
00:30:53.460product of of some uh uh aspects of of diversity but as well i i i grew up in in downtown toronto
00:31:02.340uh i went to the the public school system um i was very much a a a liberal growing up
00:31:09.780uh i was always kind of interested in politics uh i would say i was always kind of anti-establishment
00:31:16.580skeptical of of power but i was i was very left-leaning coming through the the kind of
00:31:21.940product of the the education system and so on um so like i went to to you know once i was in middle
00:31:32.900school i started like i went to a very i lived in a very white neighborhood growing up it's become
00:31:38.420much more diverse recently um i went to to high school uh down on the danforth for people familiar
00:31:46.180with uh with toronto i was already a minority in my in my high school the the the high school i
00:31:51.780went to was something like 30 40 white this is back in 2010 2014 uh and then i i then i went to
00:32:01.220to university at the university of waterloo where there's a massive population of international
00:32:06.740students uh particularly from china and india uh and in university i i studied uh politics and in
00:32:16.500in economics and i was going to university straight through the the the the the trump
00:32:25.220movement the early days of of maga uh and this is really what started putting immigration on on my
00:32:31.700radar before that um i was focused on on many other things again i was i was pretty left-leaning
00:32:37.860when i went into university uh uh i'm embarrassed to say that back in in 2015 i was i was caught up
00:32:44.420in uh uh uh trudeau's rise uh as i've mentioned i was very kind of anti-establishment i was left
00:32:51.380leaning i i thought harper was this evil robot like many like what which is possible popular in
00:32:57.540the the media at the time uh i was very much like one of those foot soldiers of the elites who
00:33:03.220thought who think they're pushing back by being uh left-leaning while well actually they they are
00:33:10.340promoting everything that the the mainstream establishment is is pushing but then trump
00:33:16.180trump came onto the stage stage and he kind of put mass immigration immigration in general
00:33:21.700questioning immigration on my radar and through my education I started to notice I started to
00:33:29.180notice things I started to notice that everything all the major issues in Canadian society could be
00:33:36.200related back to mass immigration and this was only getting worse as Trudeau entered office and as
00:33:42.260immigration rates started to to skyrocket and I started noticing everything that I was studying
00:33:47.460in school, problems with the healthcare system, the housing crisis that was only emerging at the
00:33:56.120time, depressed wages, every single issue with Canadian society could have been tracked back
00:34:05.060to mass immigration. And there was no conversation about this at the time. So this kind of was right
00:34:11.940there in my in my crosshairs um and i started to to to to get red pill to shift over to the to the
00:34:21.580right side of things and uh as well i was very much motivated by uh uh when jordan pearson kind
00:34:28.500of came onto this uh scene back in 2017 this is around the same time i started seeing that all
00:34:34.840this toxic stuff on the left that we were seeing be exposed by the rise of trump it was very much
00:34:41.480well uh alive and well here in canada too and and we started to see the same kind of toxic protests
00:34:47.080from uh opposing jordan peterson and his questioning of the of the use of pronouns
00:34:53.380and stuff enforced use of of language um we started to see the same shrieking blue-haired
00:34:59.100lefties on the on the uh here in canada as well so i started to realize uh all these problems
00:35:06.600were not just an American thing, they were here in Canada as well. And I started to go down this
00:35:11.720rabbit hole and start understanding all the issues with immigration here in Canada.
00:35:20.760So at the same time, 2017, this is when Max and Bernier was running for the leadership of the
00:35:26.420Conservative Party. And ultimately, that actually, the vote took place on my birthday back in 2017.
00:35:32.780i remember i was uh i was on a trip uh with my girlfriend at the time and all i wanted to do
00:35:39.660was pay attention to the results she was not very happy with me she wanted to go out and have fun
00:35:43.500and i was like no i need to i need to see what happens here and uh that was an important moment
00:35:49.740in my political development because that race was ultimately stolen from from bernier right there
00:35:56.140was all sorts of suspect things that happened he was the favorite to win he ended up losing narrowly
00:36:00.500on the 13th ballot or whatever um and then there was there was more votes cast than than ballots
00:36:07.000that were distributed all the ballots were destroyed immediately then the night of once
00:36:11.680the count came out it was all very suspect and it was clear that the conservative party itself
00:36:18.260was broken and they they weren't going to allow any sort of anti-establishment vote voice which
00:36:24.720Maxim which Bernier kind of represented at the time as anti-establishment as you can be when
00:36:30.720you're already a sitting MP of the party um the the kind of conservative party itself was broken
00:36:37.480they weren't going to allow um that the the party was controlled by moneyed interests behind the
00:36:43.520scenes uh Harper loyalists and they weren't going to let the party stray in a different direction
00:36:49.660that opposed their very liberal neocon view of what the party should be. So that was a pretty
00:36:58.340blackpilling moment. But I became a big follower of Bernier. And I graduated there in 2018 with my
00:37:09.640degree in political science and economics. And that was in the spring of 2018. So this is right
00:37:16.100before Bernier launched the PPC so he he launched it a couple of months later and I jumped on board
00:37:24.780right away I saw this as I saw this as the an opportunity for a younger generation to get
00:37:33.620involved in politics for nationalists to actually have a voice a political vehicle because I saw the
00:37:40.140CPC could not be reformed I saw that they weren't going to let it be hijacked by by even someone
00:37:44.760like Bernier. So I saw the PPC as a vehicle for change for my generation, for nationalists who
00:37:54.480are disenfranchised by the political system. So I got involved right off the start. I never really
00:38:00.580knew what I wanted to do with my life, with my career through my university years. In those last
00:38:06.820few months, I started to realize that I really did want to get into politics, but I didn't have
00:38:11.700any sort of resume. I hadn't volunteered for any political parties or anything like that.
00:38:15.580I did a bit of door knocking for Doug Ford back in 2016 or something like that. But I
00:38:20.560didn't have any connections in the party. I didn't have any experience. And I didn't want to work
00:38:25.900through the rot of boomers that control most of the CPC candidates and EDAs and stuff like this.
00:38:34.960So the PPC was a totally fresh start. So I got involved right off the start. I helped organize
00:38:41.260I started to organize the EDAs the electoral district associations in Kitchener Waterloo
00:38:50.380where I was still living at the time and also worth noting
00:38:58.140so I started getting right involved in the in the PPC and from there I worked my way up very
00:39:08.760quickly i i got an opportunity to to relocate here to to ottawa gatineau actually where the
00:39:15.320ppc office was was headquartered at the time and uh i just started volunteering for for the ppc at
00:39:23.560head office it was the the party was very uh disorganized it was it was less they they were
00:39:29.120making a big a lot of big statements about how many edas they had set up and all this stuff and
00:39:33.120and when i got to head office and there was there was very little that had actually been done so
00:39:38.040i started working with a few other young guys to get the party kind of on track i was volunteering
00:39:44.240uh at head office for for a month and a half working 12 14 hour days trying to get the party
00:39:51.700organized learned i didn't i didn't know anything about kind of uh the practical realities of
00:39:56.960politics i had learned uh in school all this theory and stuff all this philosophy uh but we
00:40:05.060didn't I didn't know anything about electoral district associations or how to register a
00:40:09.380candidate like the the actual functionality behind building a national volunteer organization
00:40:14.800within the laws of Canada so I I had to kind of give myself a crash course I had to learn all of
00:40:20.180these things uh in order to to be able to teach volunteers across the country all these things
00:40:25.740um so i i learned more in in my first uh six six months working for uh the ppc i learned more about
00:40:35.800politics in those six months than i did in my whole four-year degree in politics um and so i
00:40:43.500worked for the ppc in a variety of capacities leading up to the 2019 election i had a couple
00:40:48.700of different titles and uh after the 2019 election the big disappointment for for everyone that was
00:40:54.360involved. The party got less than 2% of the vote. And a lot of the folks at headquarters ended up
00:41:02.900quitting, going back to their lives, the businesses they ran, retiring, all that sort.
00:41:09.200And I ended up actually taking over as the executive director of the People's Party of
00:41:13.320Canada in November 2019. So I would have been 22 at the time. I was thoroughly unqualified for the
00:41:23.320job that i found myself in i was effectively the head staffer of the organization all of a sudden
00:41:28.100i was um i was responsible for everything in the party um i i ended up wearing a ton of different
00:41:34.700hats we were a very small team i got experience you know uh organizing a national volunteer
00:41:41.340organization um writing speeches writing emails um running press conferences uh making social
00:41:48.660media content. Working through the government bureaucracy with Elections Canada, hiring people,
00:41:57.300firing people, managing staff, I got experience doing everything. And while I can't say I did
00:42:04.260everything perfectly, I was still a young and inexperienced guy. I did try to make the most of
00:42:10.960it and move the party in the direction that I thought we needed to go in. And that went through
00:42:16.760the covid crisis i think the ppc played a very important role in opposing mandates and stuff
00:42:22.680like that i'm very proud of the work that we did there um we massively expanded the vote share and
00:42:27.640uh under my um administration as executive director the party massively expanded into the
00:42:35.5002019 election and we we were able to get almost five percent of the vote more than doubled our
00:42:39.840our vote share uh we didn't get anyone elected but there was massive growth in the party um
00:42:46.480something that i was very uh proud of but subsequent to that the party really stagnated
00:42:52.640polia took over as the leader started to you know have a bit more brash populist rhetoric started
00:42:58.560winning back support from the ppc the covid crisis ended the ppc was left in a kind of awkward
00:43:05.520identity crisis um where so many of the supporters had come to to because of the party's views on
00:43:12.880on covid but now there was a really unsustainable kind of basket of supporters it wasn't clear who
00:43:18.640the base was what the party stood for and the party was like heading in the wrong direction
00:43:25.200very clearly. So I was involved there until 2024. At the end of 2023,
00:43:36.820I had a kind of coming to, well, earlier in 2023, Maxim ended up losing that by-election in Manitoba.
00:43:46.860And then things were really black-pilled. Like it was looking bad. The PPC was heading in a bad
00:43:53.180direction maxim had failed again to get elected um that's when it's uh his florida house came
00:44:00.200into the situation um the the the staff at ppchq was very black pilled everyone was very
00:44:07.040discouraged um but towards the end of 2023 uh there was a moment where i saw that there was
00:44:15.120a big opportunity for the party in the last two months of 2023 there was a massive spike in in
00:44:21.520in immigration um there was like 500 000 people that were brought in in the last two months of
00:44:27.4602023 um you know something like two-thirds of which were from india and at the same time there
00:44:33.880was that big controversy about the giant hanuman statue the giant monkey statue in in in brampton
00:44:41.380uh and pierre had spent that whole year going around and saying um you know stop the deportations
00:44:48.860and all this it was becoming very clear that pierre was not going to do anything on immigration
00:44:53.740he was going to prop up the multicultural perspective on on immigration and
00:45:02.860uh there was going to be a big opportunity for the ppc if we just like if we followed the logic
00:45:08.300that we did through covet if we became more of a single issue party if we just focused on
00:45:14.060immigration if we just focused on the solution which was which was re-migration we would be able
00:45:18.940to wedge the conservatives and we we could stay relevant but in order to do this i really needed
00:45:23.820to push for a different direction in uh in our messaging and policy something that i was not
00:45:28.860really involved in at the time so i started to to to argue a lot with bernier and some of the other
00:45:35.660people behind the scenes uh i decided that i was not compromising anymore that i wanted to take
00:45:41.500things in a different direction and uh i was not i was not gonna take any other options in mind
00:45:48.620um and that just led to tensions and and uh lots of arguments and ultimately i i got pushed out of
00:45:57.900the uh out of the ppc um something that i think uh you know and i think the ppc has only kind of
00:46:05.100died more and more since then uh as a result um but yeah no my my whole career is public record
00:46:13.340like you can find me on old live streams of uh with max talking about all sorts of things
00:46:20.060immigration other things you can see me in the background of all sorts of pictures at the
00:46:24.140the leaders debates uh i'm uh like to that people think i just came out of nowhere and that
00:46:30.140that that justifies i must be a plant or fed or i must be funded by the government no no no um
00:46:36.780that's not the case uh you can find my my entire life is uh is is is public record so
00:46:44.540after leaving the the ppc this would have been may 2024 a couple years ago um i find myself in
00:46:50.220an awkward position my my i was kind of uh my career in politics was was a question you know
00:46:57.340know i only had the ppc on my resume i couldn't turn around and get a job with other political
00:47:02.920parties i couldn't even get people to answer my phone calls or anything like that um so i i had
00:47:09.440a choice to just abandon everything that i believed in disavow try and get a job in the
00:47:16.280private sector disappear into the night but i also knew that i had unique experiences as a result of
00:47:27.160my time in the ppc i had a lot of experience doing everything running a full volunteer organization
00:47:34.040running a national organization uh messaging all these skills that really no one else in the in
00:47:39.640the nationalist movement had and as well like i i had already been doxxed right uh people my views
00:47:45.560my my controversial views on uh canadian politics were out there so i was in a kind of unique
00:47:53.160position to start something new to use my network to use my experience and i felt i had a duty
00:48:03.240to do something to move the nationalist movement forward and so i started i started doing that i
00:48:10.920i spent about a year uh uh how did i meet wycliffe um i met wycliffe through the ppc uh
00:48:20.040of course he was a candidate for us in 2019 i met him through the party um i had
00:48:27.720the opportunity the skills and a duty a responsibility to my nation
00:48:34.200to uh to to give back and and to do something that just wasn't on the on the the in the
00:48:41.720political scene at all so i started figuring out how how i do that i started researching
00:48:47.960what was going on in other countries. I started carefully following nationalist movements
00:48:51.920around the world. I started studying and researching and reading, catching up on
00:48:58.880reading that I hadn't done when I was working for the PPC, getting that, building that foundation
00:49:06.060of Canadian history and identity, following what political parties were doing in Europe,
00:49:12.400how they were moving the ball forward, what different activists were recommending.
00:49:17.960And I started to design what Canada needed in order to advance the movement in Canada.
00:49:24.700So what I ended up coming up with was this third party metapolitical organization.
00:49:31.100I didn't think we could start a political party.
00:49:33.460I didn't think we have the base for that.
00:49:35.460I didn't have any sort of notoriety or credibility or anything like that.
00:49:39.180I didn't think starting another political party would be fruitful.
00:49:42.640We've seen the struggles that small parties have had in Canada over the last few years.
00:49:47.340the ppc um is is the best of them and it hasn't it hasn't been um particularly successful by by
00:49:55.220any reasonable metrics but then there's been in the same period there's been so many other parties
00:50:00.160that have failed even worse the united the united party of canada the the canadian future party
00:50:06.540um all these parties they try and start up um and they end up going nowhere um so i i i i thought
00:50:15.100the best way to proceed was to have a um a meta-political organization we wouldn't compete
00:50:22.720directly with political parties but we'd work to advance a message a narrative about canadian
00:50:28.020identity uh about canadian culture about re-migration about policies that could actually
00:50:34.280fix this this issue we needed an organization that could work full-time to compete with
00:50:40.900because you have to understand like the majority of lobbyists in canada are immigration related
00:50:46.260lobbyists and they're all pro-migration right even even like the unions are are out there
00:50:51.920supporting the temporary foreign worker program and other anti-canadian policies
00:50:55.280there there are all sorts of all the political parties all the all these uh charities and
00:51:02.520non-profit groups are promoting this this anti-canadian concept of what the the country
00:51:08.060is and what immigration policy should be and all this um we needed some counterbalance we needed
00:51:16.620an organization that was well-funded that could hire all these young nationalists who are talented
00:51:24.300who can focus on creating policy and propaganda and hosting events and building grassroots networks
00:51:31.260to put pressure on existing parties that wouldn't have the baggage of um you're just splitting the
00:51:39.280vote or or anything like this no we're not we're not competing in elections where we exist to
00:51:45.340promote a a worldview and a philosophy and and uh policy solutions um so uh i i spent uh about a
00:51:54.720year doing that. And we launched the Dominion Society in July of last year, after about a
00:52:03.600year and a half of careful, diligent work and planning behind the scenes. And I mean, the rest
00:52:08.260is history. You guys would be familiar with all the developments since then. But yeah, to make
00:52:16.520these accusations that like, they just haven't experienced diversity. Like, no, I grew up in
00:52:23.700in toronto i was surrounded by diversity of all kinds uh in in first year university i lived
00:52:30.420in residence in a small concrete box with a fresh off the boat seek indian uh uh
00:52:38.900who was my roommate for for eight months i experienced the dysfunction of mass immigration
00:52:46.180firsthand it wasn't just like we were getting in fights with different immigrants blah blah blah
00:52:53.060like a lot of it was just as i started to wake up to the the the the issues of immigration
00:53:00.820uh the cultural impacts and stuff i started looking back on my own life and i was like
00:53:06.500especially in high school when when i was a when i was in a majority ethnic school like
00:53:14.980i've noticed looking back all the different friend groups were were based around ethnic lines you
00:53:20.660know all the white kids in my class were friends with each other and all the the brown kids from
00:53:26.900different countries were all we're all friends with each other and like we didn't we didn't like
00:53:31.700hate each other or anything we we peacefully coexisted but you know they'd we'd you know
00:53:38.900joke back and forth and then they'd go and they'd start talking foreign languages behind our backs
00:53:42.740and like just a dysfunctional uh uh kind of micro societies um and i started noticing that people
00:53:53.840are just like naturally biased to to be with people like them um and i started to notice that
00:53:59.020not only the micro scale but on the macro scale like this is why we have ethnic ghettos that's
00:54:03.060why all indians want to move to surrey and brampton and stuff they want to live with people that are
00:54:06.940like them and this isn't like this is this is just an expected result of of uh the social nature of
00:54:17.260of human beings um but it creates problems it creates problems in our political system where
00:54:22.920we get have these whole ridings that are dictated by diaspora politics and and uh then representatives
00:54:30.400are go and they they represent their their ethnic communities instead of the interests of
00:54:34.420canadian people um i started to see that at in my everyday life but also in my in uh in politics
00:54:42.740writ large and and the issues are all encompassing like every foundational problem in our society
00:54:50.640is because of immigration like that's why people of my generation don't like they've given up hope
00:54:56.100on owning a house and starting a family young. That's why, you know, I have to be concerned that
00:55:06.120if I need emergency medical care, life-saving medical care, that I'm going to be waiting in
00:55:10.840a queue behind some, you know, immigrant's grandmother who got to come over here because
00:55:17.540of family reunification and gets to take care, take advantage of our healthcare system, even
00:55:22.260though their their family has not paid into it in in the same way intergenerationally like my family
00:55:27.860had um that you know if i have children they're going to be a minority in their classrooms and
00:55:34.100they're going to have to lower education standards because they have to uh have standards that that
00:55:39.940fit all these people who speak foreign languages at home and all these problems
00:55:45.540everything going wrong with our society is because of immigration
00:55:48.740so i started to to view things through this lens and i i started to approach politics
00:55:54.320with that as my primary um priority and like these people like these evans valgords and
00:56:03.940these rachel gilmores they think that we they they can't conceive of us they they need me to
00:56:09.960be a cartoon supervillain that monologues about his plans and and uh that must have been his origin
00:56:16.600story must have been due to bad interactions with, with, um, with, you know, diverse communities or
00:56:23.720whatnot. But it's like, no, like I, I can go about my life and be polite to people and have positive
00:56:29.580interactions with people. Ultimately, my view is just completely philosophically different than
00:56:34.960they, than theirs is. They view people as interchange, abstract, interchangeable economic
00:56:41.320units that it doesn't matter people's you know religion or culture or identity that we just have
00:56:47.600to you know be tolerant and be nice to each other and everything will work out we can do peaceable
00:56:52.900commerce together or whatnot but that's just not how i view society like i i understand that people
00:57:00.360are that we are a nation that you know there's there's nature and there's there's nurture and
00:57:09.720there's nature that that every person is part of an intergenerational chain that stretches back
00:57:18.380all the way to the earliest settlers and pioneers of this country and but we're also connected to
00:57:25.540future generations that that we are only the most recent chapter in Canada's history and if
00:57:36.120that in that everyone is just kind of a sum of this intergenerational experience every little
00:57:42.540thing about you it's not just your skin color you it's it's it's it's culture it's the way that you
00:57:48.820interact with people it's your it's your mannerisms it's it's it's every little aspect of people is a
00:57:55.820result of generation the generations that came before them and that we have a duty a moral
00:58:04.080responsibility to future generations to pass the country we were given on to the next generation
00:58:10.040and that country that nation has dramatically radically transformed just in my lifetime like
00:58:18.400I was born in 1996 people think I'm a young guy I'm turning 30 this year um uh and then like when
00:58:28.500I was born Canada was like 85 percent white in my lifetime it's dropped to you know probably less
00:58:33.260than 60 percent white we'll see we'll see this year but that's a dramatic change to our society
00:58:38.860and and there are all sorts of knock-on effects it's not just seeing someone with colored skin
00:58:44.140it's it's the way our communities interact it's it's it's the it's a level of trust
00:58:49.020in our society um it's all these lip things and to view people as just abstract individuals
00:58:57.680floating in in an economy it's just completely disingenuous it's unrealistic it's naive
00:59:06.560and i think it's a real flaw with with kind of people's modern interpretation of politics and
00:59:12.800society so i want to shift things in a different direction i want to put identity and immigration
00:59:22.400at the core of all political discussions and there was no organization uh on the on the horizon that
00:59:30.640that offered that so i i i decided uh and i think this is a mentality that nationalists need to have
00:59:37.040in in all respects is i decided to bring it build it myself and i think we have to have that same
00:59:42.000attitude when it comes to you know new media companies all sorts of things um like the
00:59:47.680The nationalist movement is still very young
01:06:27.060I don't think I have the credibility or the gravitas
01:06:29.960or the resume to to be that leader to unite our country but I'm going to do everything in my power
01:06:35.960to to create the environment that that great man appears to to save our country I'm tired of waiting
01:06:45.400I'm going to do everything in my power make all the content make write all the policy knock on
01:06:51.400all the doors give out all the flyers we're going to do everything in our power to normalize our
01:06:55.960ideas and push them into the mainstream um so that's my pitch for tonight i'll take a bit a
01:07:02.840few of your questions please start dropping them in the chat uh happy to answer any questions about
01:07:08.280myself like we've already been talking about or or any uh questions about policy or or or or the
01:07:15.640dominion society or direction or anything like that um but that's who i am i'm an open book
01:07:22.200i have nothing to hide buy a gym membership buy a dominion society membership good advice
01:07:28.360from western loyalist um that's the other thing get in shape you are the nation um
01:07:36.120the the the health of the nation is reflective of our own personal health and too many of us
01:07:40.680are are are out of shape and fat and and not doing and doing the readings take your time
01:07:47.960to read the books, lift the weights, become the best version of yourself. And as we improve
01:07:54.700ourselves, our victory only becomes more and more inevitable. So I'm a big fan of exercise.
01:08:02.500I'm a big advocate of healthy living. Let's answer some questions.
01:08:17.960okay okay uh guess who we asks how do we find like-minded people find other members of
01:08:28.800dsoc somehow um the first step is to become a member um we we are only focused on organizing
01:08:35.020our members it is a 25 bucks a year fee you do get one of these nice pins and a nice membership
01:08:40.580card uh for your troubles um but we are looking to coordinate our members at the local level we have
01:08:46.720we don't have any official local chapters yet, but we do have kind of the precursors of these
01:08:52.380volunteer groups in an increasing number of cities. We have a good team in Hamilton, in
01:08:59.040Niagara, in Halifax, in Victoria, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton. We have dudes involved helping
01:09:11.140us onboard new members every single day. We have more people going through the system.
01:09:15.240once you get plugged in once you get fully onboarded as a member we will put you in touch
01:09:19.100with people in your local area so you can start to interact but also just start engaging in in
01:09:23.840grassroots levels of activism so the first step is to to sign up as a member we do have a pretty
01:09:28.600big backlog on onboarding members i will warn you it might take some time especially depending on
01:09:34.640where you are some of the cities are more online than others so you know if you sign up and you're
01:09:39.700in hamilton in your in your or in your you're in niagara or edmonton if you're in some of these
01:09:44.760cities you're going to be plugged into our systems very quickly if you're in other areas you're gonna
01:09:49.420have to wait a little bit we're getting more people involved all the time uh i just set up
01:09:54.280this week people to help us with onboarding in kitchener waterloo and in pei um so those areas
01:10:01.660will start coming on board soon i think we have some prospects in in new brunswick as well um so
01:10:07.440there will be some movement in some new areas starting soon but if you want to get involved
01:10:11.680if you want to meet people, you have to become a member. What do you think of PPC slash Maxim?
01:10:19.140Max and I have a long and troubled history. We're not particularly close anymore. I'm disappointed
01:10:25.260with the general direction of the party. I think the PPC's biggest problem is internal organization
01:10:31.900rather than anything they, the policies they stand for in particular, although I would like
01:10:36.900to see them narrow their view and take more of our our positions um but really i think the party
01:10:43.040is just really poorly organized um and honestly uh i don't have much hope for the direction of
01:10:48.820the ppc i think um i think we need something new and fresh with a new team of leaders
01:10:53.300the thing about daniel's approach is he's very balanced and sensible i can stay
01:10:59.620i can't stand american style patriots in their constant military soundbar thank you for the
01:11:04.780kind words, Matt. I try and present an outlook that's consistent with Canadian identity,
01:11:10.940something that's appealing to Canadian people. Are you Christian? And if so, what denomination?
01:11:17.760So both my parents were Catholic. I was raised in a very secular household. So I don't consider
01:11:25.360myself a Christian. I think I, while I'm very much informed by Christian morality and
01:11:32.520Christian ways of thinking. I don't think I've done enough work to consider myself a Christian,
01:11:39.280but I have been attending church recently. I have a beautiful Catholic church right by my house. So
01:11:45.800I have been dipping my toes in that, but I'm not baptized. I don't consider myself,
01:11:52.140I am broadly secular, to be totally frank. Daniel, you talked about reading. Who inspired you? I know
01:11:59.460you said gramsci and bowden anyone else comes to mind those are two definitely influential uh
01:12:04.580thinkers um i have a kind of a book list that i'd be happy to to provide to anyone that's
01:12:10.580interested please send us an email info dominion society.ca i'll try and make a couple website a
01:12:16.340web page or a twitter thread or something like that too um so people can find it um but i'd
01:12:22.660strongly recommend uh like candid in decay by ricardo duchene that breaks down our immigration
01:12:28.100situation really cogently. I would recommend reading old books on Canadian history, not the
01:12:34.560new stuff. You might have to find some of it secondhand, but that's the best way to get an
01:12:39.260idea of Canadian history and society before they started kind of rewriting everything and removing
01:12:44.860things that were problematic or racist or whatever. So Donald Creighton is a big historian. He wrote
01:12:51.900a couple of biographies on Johnny MacDonald. I'm working through one of those right now. He wrote
01:12:56.040a couple of books on Canadian history Canadian Canada's first century I'd recommend that I've
01:13:01.340read that Lament for a Nation by George Grant that's an important work I would recommend
01:13:08.940Martin Sellner's Regime Change for the Right I think that's a very important book for anyone
01:13:13.560that's interested in remigration related activism be that on the media side or the activism side or
01:13:20.320anything like that those are three quick hits off the top of my head that I that I would strongly
01:13:25.560recommend. When I talk about Gramsci, it's very much adopting Sellner's tactics, which are
01:13:30.920Neo-Gramshian in character. It's this concept of the metapolitical that politics is downstream
01:13:36.440from culture and thus we should influence culture to influence the political. So that's the kind
01:13:42.400of driving thrust of the Dominion Society in general. I did read some Gramsci, but back in
01:13:49.960University. Okay, okay. Aura. Chat is moving fast. Are you based out of Ontario? Yes, I am in Ottawa.
01:14:06.220I relocated here to start working for the PPC and I haven't yet left just yet. So I've lived my whole
01:14:11.240life in Ontario. I was born in Ottawa, grew up in Toronto, went to school in Kitchener, Waterloo,
01:14:16.980uh relocated back to ottawa for for for politics and i don't know where i'll move next
01:14:22.420in hindsight do you regret spending all that time with the ppc no i don't regret anything
01:14:29.220um i went in there with very honest intentions uh i learned so much uh in my time there i'm kind of
01:14:37.120disappointed with how things ended and what's happened since then um to the party because i
01:14:43.260invested so much of my time and energy it's into that project it's very disappointing to see how it
01:14:47.900ends and to see it slowly die has been frustrating to watch um but i don't regret anything
01:14:55.660when are you going on joe rogan i don't know you'll have to go ask joe to have me on i'd be
01:15:00.220i'd be happy to have um an in-depth conversation uh and push back on very american notions of
01:15:08.380canadian identity and what modern canada is i think that could be a very interesting conversation but
01:15:13.260um i think uh joe has a bit uh bigger fish than me
01:15:17.980our second generation canadians welcome in the movement yes we don't anyone's welcome to join
01:15:25.840the dominion society as a member we don't discriminate based off of anything um as long
01:15:30.580as they agree with our ideas uh that's that's that's very welcome again our our position isn't
01:15:36.520to to remigrate everyone that doesn't meet our definition of of canadian but i think we have to
01:15:41.780agree that Canadian identity is real and that the Canadian people are real. And there are people
01:15:48.960that are immigrants that agree with that. I see that on social media all the time.
01:15:55.140Like people that moved here, be them first generation, second generation, they moved here
01:15:58.960for a reason because Canada is great, but Canada is great only because of our people. It's all
01:16:04.620downstream from the nation right so as long as they can recognize the nation that they as long
01:16:12.780as they agree that re-migration is necessary as long as they agree with our principles and our
01:16:16.860ideas you're welcome in our organization you're talking about re-migration but there's no plan
01:16:24.360no deadline no target figure no selection process this is all wrong it's all on our website we have
01:16:30.760a very detailed remigration plan. It's an 11.3 phase plan. I think next week, unless anything
01:16:36.360big happens in the media, if it's another slow week like we just had, I'll spend one of these
01:16:42.920episodes just breaking down our whole remigration plan point by point by point. Here, I'll pull it
01:16:51.840up. I'll pull it up. I need a Jamie. Pull that shit up. Boom. This is right on our website. You
01:17:12.100can find what is remigration. We have a detailed breakdown of what it is and why it's necessary.
01:17:16.300And right at the bottom of the page, we have our re-migration plan, 11 steps going from a total moratorium of abolishing the temporary foreign worker and international mobility program, restricting birthright citizenship, adjusting the push and full factors, reforming the asylum system.
01:17:35.340we have it all laid out we have an 11 point plan and we are currently working on breaking this plan
01:17:41.420into a more detailed series of white papers that'll be you know fulsome policy reports 50 100
01:17:49.660page documents going in depth on each of these bullet points we have a very serious plan we
01:17:54.860know what we stand for um so no i completely reject this this comment you're clearly uninformed on on
01:27:35.420They're clearly not integrating into Canadian society in any substantial way.
01:27:38.740I think this is an example of people that are threatening our social cohesion.
01:27:41.900They're bringing in these foreign religions.
01:27:43.620They're bringing in these foreign cultural
01:27:45.220practices that are not consistent with our identity and they don't belong here.
01:27:57.380I do recommend that as well. That's a great intro to a liberal right-wing thought. That is included on my book list, The Cultured Thug Handbook.
01:28:13.360Mr. Daniel, do you support one nation Toryism and high Tories? I do. I think what we need is a modern vision of Canadian loyalism.
01:28:25.460um i think we've moved beyond just a simple loyalty to the crown what we need is a broader
01:28:31.420loyalty to our language to our ethnos to our ancestors and descendants to our land to our
01:28:38.240identity what we need is a modern loyalism um that can be that can kind of sit outside of the
01:28:46.040the right left divide um but i think we should definitely be uh informed by canada's kind of
01:28:52.240high Tory political culture that was from the the earliest days of Canada I think there's a lot to
01:28:59.460learn from there and I think there's a lot of remnants of that even still in our modern
01:29:04.500political landscape but I try not to use too many labels
01:29:11.780everyone putting good recommendations in the book recommendations in the chat I love to see