Dominion Society of Canada - February 11, 2026


Nationalism is inevitable.


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Length

2 minutes

Words per Minute

198.15543

Word Count

487

Sentence Count

20


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In this episode, we discuss the rise of nationalism in the post-World War II world, and why this is both inevitable and good news. We also talk about how we can work together to find solutions that help all of us while being consistent with all of our national interests.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 that you must be this horrible person it's like well no he is just an advocate for his people
00:00:05.120 above all others which you know is really what we would hope and expect from you know other nations
00:00:10.640 other cultures just a brief aside there is something i get i guess a little frustrated
00:00:15.760 about but i think it's a much more honest interpretation of how power should function
00:00:20.240 though like we've been living in this kind of uh subversive kind of rules-based international order
00:00:25.840 in the post-war period, where people kind of subvert their national interest as, especially
00:00:32.520 the dominant powers, as some sort of fair, liberal attitude, where in the reality, it's
00:00:37.820 really just been an extension of the power for the United States, less so China and Russia,
00:00:42.580 who maintained disproportionate power, either through kind of the UN Security Council or
00:00:46.880 whatnot.
00:00:47.480 Really, it's just the US bullying people around, not some kind of liberal, fair, egalitarian
00:00:52.840 system.
00:00:53.460 So it's been this really dishonest thing.
00:00:55.000 And I think we're seeing a kind of crumbling of that.
00:00:57.520 Trump is representative of that.
00:00:58.940 And we even had our prime minister at Davos the other week declare a new world order.
00:01:03.600 Last night, we had our former prime minister, or two nights ago, we had our former prime
00:01:06.940 minister, Stephen Harper, declare that we're in an age of nationalism.
00:01:10.380 And I do think they're both correct.
00:01:11.580 I do think we're in this transition period, specifically moving away from the age of complete
00:01:16.720 American dominance, transitioning from this kind of unipolar power dynamic in geopolitics
00:01:21.960 towards a more multipolar or bipolar system.
00:01:24.460 And I think it's natural for a shift to nationalism for all the middle powers to occur as a response to that in this more kind of chaotic system, everyone has to be a bit more self interested. So we're seeing that collapse of the lie that was liberalism in real time. And I think this shift back towards nationalism is both inevitable and for the interest of everyone. And yes, sometimes we'll run counter to things. But I do think there is still space for global alignment within a more nationalist system.
00:01:52.760 There are countries like you just pointed out that we share history, we share culture and ethnicity, especially within the Anglosphere, Canada, United States, Australia, Great Britain, New Zealand, so on. And I can see these countries working together for similar goals. Like I have some proposals on things like reforming the asylum system. And really, all these countries are going through very similar problems.
00:02:11.020 And I think we could work together to find solutions that help all of us while being consistent with all of our national interests, even if some things like trade and military arrangements and stuff like this, we might have to butt heads. I think there is still space for kind of global alignment on certain things.