Dominion Society of Canada - August 19, 2025


Sure, call US the bad guys

Topics
nationalism
Hosted by
Daniel Tyrie
Mentioned
Pierre Trudeau John A. Macdonald Lester Pearson Diefenbaker
How are we going to affect change？ The root cause

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Length

2 minutes

Words per minute

209.79

Word count

447

Sentence count

29

Harmful content

Hate speech

3

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In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend and former colleague, Dr. John Rocha, to discuss what it means to be a Canadian nationalist and why we need to get rid of nationalism in Canada.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I think that most Canadians feel it whenever they go out into any public situation,
00:00:05.040 especially in the large cities, right? Like Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal. You don't even
00:00:08.940 know. I mean, if you were waking up from a coma, let's say, and you were taking your first walk
00:00:13.000 out onto Yonge Street in Toronto, you wouldn't realize what country you were in until you saw
00:00:17.400 a street sign. And even then you'd go, hmm, what's going on? But it seems nobody wants to say it.
00:00:22.220 Why is that in your opinion? I think you touched on it earlier. People have been programmed
00:00:25.780 against these kinds of ideas for generations now. You might be able to argue that it started
00:00:29.900 under Diefenbaker in the 60s. But it really took full throat under Lester Pearson and then
00:00:34.680 subsequently Pierre Elliott Trudeau. I think he saw nationalism as a problem in Canada. And we
00:00:40.800 have to know that he was informed by kind of his situation of his time, which was Quebec separatism.
00:00:45.060 And he was a federalist. And I agree with that vision. Federalism is important to me. I thoroughly
00:00:49.300 believe in Sir John A. MacDonald's vision for a coast to coast dominion of Canada. But Pierre
00:00:54.460 Trudeau saw this as volatile and as a solution to the tensions that nationalism is creating within
00:01:00.920 the country. He kind of moves us to this post-national version of Canada, embraces
00:01:05.760 multiculturalism, and starts diversifying sources of immigration while encouraging people to
00:01:11.920 maintain their kind of cultural identities from foreign countries. And then keep them all separate 1.00
00:01:17.020 so they can never mix and mingle and get into fights with each other, right? Yeah, and we'll
00:01:21.440 pretend like this isn't awkward and they'll gaslight us and call us racist if anyone raises
00:01:26.300 any questions. And now this has been going on for, you know, 40, 50 years, my whole life. So people
00:01:31.360 just don't even recognize this conception of nationalism. Now, this was the standard
00:01:34.840 throughout the entire world, especially leading up to the world wars. Nationalism was widely kind
00:01:40.480 of vilified in the post-war period. But we want to bring this conception back. It's a normal way 0.92
00:01:45.560 of thinking. And we know how backwards our country has become because of this kind of multi-ethnic, 1.00
00:01:51.200 multicultural post-national vision of the country you call me the bad guy i'm gonna stand up and
00:01:56.240 i'm gonna say what everyone's thinking maybe some people will call me names but a lot of people are
00:02:00.640 gonna give a sigh of relief they're gonna be like that guy is finally articulating what i've been
00:02:04.640 concerned about for years and we're gonna start to do something about it