Sure, call US the bad guys
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Summary
In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend and former colleague, Dr. John Rocha, to discuss what it means to be a Canadian nationalist and why we need to get rid of nationalism in Canada.
Transcript
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I think that most Canadians feel it whenever they go out into any public situation,
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especially in the large cities, right? Like Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal. You don't even
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know. I mean, if you were waking up from a coma, let's say, and you were taking your first walk
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out onto Yonge Street in Toronto, you wouldn't realize what country you were in until you saw
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a street sign. And even then you'd go, hmm, what's going on? But it seems nobody wants to say it.
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Why is that in your opinion? I think you touched on it earlier. People have been programmed
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against these kinds of ideas for generations now. You might be able to argue that it started
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under Diefenbaker in the 60s. But it really took full throat under Lester Pearson and then
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subsequently Pierre Elliott Trudeau. I think he saw nationalism as a problem in Canada. And we
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have to know that he was informed by kind of his situation of his time, which was Quebec separatism.
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And he was a federalist. And I agree with that vision. Federalism is important to me. I thoroughly
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believe in Sir John A. MacDonald's vision for a coast to coast dominion of Canada. But Pierre
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Trudeau saw this as volatile and as a solution to the tensions that nationalism is creating within
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the country. He kind of moves us to this post-national version of Canada, embraces
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multiculturalism, and starts diversifying sources of immigration while encouraging people to
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maintain their kind of cultural identities from foreign countries. And then keep them all separate
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so they can never mix and mingle and get into fights with each other, right? Yeah, and we'll
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pretend like this isn't awkward and they'll gaslight us and call us racist if anyone raises
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any questions. And now this has been going on for, you know, 40, 50 years, my whole life. So people
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just don't even recognize this conception of nationalism. Now, this was the standard
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throughout the entire world, especially leading up to the world wars. Nationalism was widely kind
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of vilified in the post-war period. But we want to bring this conception back. It's a normal way
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of thinking. And we know how backwards our country has become because of this kind of multi-ethnic,
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multicultural post-national vision of the country you call me the bad guy i'm gonna stand up and
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i'm gonna say what everyone's thinking maybe some people will call me names but a lot of people are
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gonna give a sigh of relief they're gonna be like that guy is finally articulating what i've been
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concerned about for years and we're gonna start to do something about it