On this episode of Firebrand, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-GA) takes on the deep state and the ATF. Rep. Gaetz has been a long time member of the House Armed Services Committee and has been fighting for years to force the ATF out of office. In this episode, he lays out the facts and evidence against the ATF, and calls for the agency to be completely defunded. He also lays out evidence from a field hearing where the ATF was accused of failing to properly vet background checks on gun buyers and gun licensees, and why they should be kicked out of the agency altogether. Firebrand is hosted by Rep. Adam Kinzler (R/GA) and Rep. Steve Israel (D/VA) who are dedicated to fighting for the rights and liberties of all Americans, including the right to bear arms and the Second Amendment rights of every American. Firebrand was recorded live from Room 2021 at the Rayburn House Office Building in Washington, D.C., where Rep. Ryan is broadcasting live out of Room 2021, a conference room located in Room 2021. The Firebrand HQ. Subscribe today using our podcast s RSS feed! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Rate, review, and subscribe to our other podcast episodes. Thank you for supporting this podcast! If you like what you're listening, please consider rating, reviewing, reviewing and/or reviewing this podcast, and share it with a friend! and spreading the word to your friends and family about it to the rest of the patriot community! Thank you! Timestamps! Love, Kristian Timeless, Ralden, Ronna, Rachael, R.Jared, J.J., R.R. & Sarah, B.J. & Jonathon . & Jonothan, P.A. -Jonah - Jonah - R.V. . . . - John R. R. & R.B. - Jonatha, A.B., J.M. , J.A., S.E. . , R.S. & J. . .R. ! - J.V., J-A. - A.M., A. - B.A.: J.W. & J-R. ? - S.B . . R. E. , S. & K.
00:04:55.000Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.
00:04:58.000He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.
00:05:01.000So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.
00:05:04.000If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots!
00:05:41.000We are broadcasting live out of room 2021 of the Rayburn House Office Building here at our Capitol Complex in Washington, D.C. Already the live stream is fired up.
00:05:50.000Lorenzo on Facebook says never stop fighting for the truth.
00:06:17.000Ultimately we hope it's a good product that ends wokeness, supports our military, ensures that America always holds the high ground, and that doesn't unnecessarily escalate a regional conflict in Eastern Europe into a global nuclear war.
00:06:33.000I'm going to have a lot of evidence in this show that we have developed against the ATF. But first, our fiscal house.
00:06:40.000Big reporting just coming from Fox News.
00:06:44.000Federal debt explodes by $1 trillion in five weeks.
00:06:49.000Since the deal suspending the debt limit became law.
00:06:52.000So in five weeks, we blew through a trillion dollars.
00:06:56.000You heard myself, Congressman Roy, Dan Bishop on this very podcast talking about what a foolish piece of legislation this was that House Republicans joined with Democrats and Joe Biden to put into law.
00:07:10.000And one of the things we insisted on Have a dollar amount or a date.
00:07:15.000That way, if the Biden administration puts out too much cash against the law, against the authority that they've been given by the Constitution or the Congress, like they did on the student loan cancellation, that there is some backstop to that, that there is some mechanism to put downward pressure on spending.
00:07:34.000But instead, the Uniparty worked together and totally suspended the debt limit.
00:07:40.000I came on this program frequently and talked about the $4 trillion that had been gaslit.
00:07:46.000They have approved this thing through January 2025. And we're in the first five weeks and we've blown through a trillion dollars.
00:07:56.000We've increased the debt by a trillion dollars in that period of time.
00:08:01.000So the failure to say either or with a time period or a dollar amount, the failure to make that strategic choice, Now it's costing us the strength of the dollar, the American economy.
00:08:16.000All because Republicans wouldn't fight.
00:08:20.000And we're seeing the consequences of it now.
00:08:23.000It's why the upcoming appropriations process is so critical that we not go into just a policy that continues all or almost all of the Biden era spending.
00:08:33.000We have to take a meat cleaver to this federal budget.
00:08:38.000We should start with the woke and weaponized programs that are harming our people.
00:08:55.000Now, we had a field hearing in Northwest Florida with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene recently.
00:09:01.000And I'm going to walk you through in this program the evidence that we developed directly from people engaged in advocacy for gun owners, firearms licensees.
00:09:24.000of his own volition he relied on others and he was punished as a consequence viciously by the fba i'm sorry by the atf take a listen to mr schuler two years ago while i was in the process of selling a firearm to a customer i completed the background check using the florida department of law enforcement purposes program the background check was uneventful and fdle rendered an approval number Some
00:09:55.000months later, during an ATF audit, I was told the background check was now a non-approval.
00:10:01.000I am a hands-on business owner and do all background checks myself.
00:10:07.000This background check came back as an approval.
00:10:10.000I was never notified in any way during the months before the audit that the approval was changed to a non-approval.
00:10:17.000When I was told that the approval change It was their opinion that I purposely, unwillfully used the incorrect finding from the FDLE. Even though FDLE made the error, it was on my paperwork.
00:11:46.000You see, even though Congress recently tried to reverse the ATF's ban on stabilizing pistol braces, a bill that failed, the ATF did not need How the hell can repealing a ban on something require a literal act of Congress,
00:12:15.000yet the ban itself did not require a bill to go before Congress in the first place?
00:12:22.000It's a fair question that Mr. Herrera asks, and it showcases how the ATF is trying to use regulatory authority to render potentially tens of millions of people felons when they have no intent to violate the law.
00:12:37.000I thought the ATF, I thought the whole federal government was supposed to protect the people who wanted to be law-abiding.
00:12:42.000But here you see something very different, and it's often their systems that fail.
00:12:47.000And sometimes they fail our best patriots.
00:12:49.000Now, in Northwest Florida, we have a lot of firearms retailers who sell to members of our military.
00:12:56.000We have a lot of active-duty military in our community.
00:12:59.000Active-duty military enjoy using firearms for Protection, for safety, for whatever constitutionally approved reason they want to use them for, actually.
00:13:29.000So I'm very active in the Florida politics and I've done a lot of research and checked into it.
00:13:36.000I actually have contacted FDLE and I'm in contact with a few people at FDLE that are over the background check system.
00:13:46.000As far as we're explained, we have a computer system, we put in the information from the customer into the computer system, then it goes directly to FDLE. FDLE then puts that information into the NICS system, where it either comes back a Non-approval, an approval, or we need to do more research.
00:14:11.000If it needs to do more research, it then comes back to the FDLE system.
00:14:16.000And FDLE has to do the research themselves since they've opted to take that on.
00:14:23.000We've seen these false positives over and over.
00:14:27.000Recently, I just had a Navy pilot in my store that had purchased two firearms in the last six months when he came in and purchased another firearm.
00:14:40.000Navy pilot, you know, had full orders, everything in the store.
00:14:45.000So I have a contact at FDLE, luckily, after a lot of politicking because I think they just kind of want to keep me quiet at this point.
00:14:54.000And I reached out to him and he said, let me check into it.
00:14:57.000I gave him all the information, the transaction number and everything.
00:15:00.000And he asked to speak to the Navy pilot that was in the store.
00:15:06.000I put him on the phone and five minutes later came back with an approval.
00:15:11.000So what had happened is he explained to me that the pilot's information, he had the same name as a gentleman out of New York, but the birth dates were different.
00:15:24.000Well, he had put his social security number on the form and they could not get the social security number of the gentleman out of New York that had been arrested.
00:15:36.000So since they couldn't confirm that he wasn't this person, they just denied his form.
00:15:43.000This is a military Navy pilot and they just denied his form.
00:15:49.000If I had not had the contact that I have at FDLE, then this gentleman just wouldn't have been able to buy it.
00:15:57.000He would have had to go through an appeal process that can take up to six months We are back live and you see how tedious And pedantic,
00:16:23.000the ATF acts when dealing with some of our small businesses.
00:16:27.000Some of these are multi-generational family businesses, oftentimes mom and pop.
00:16:32.000And then if you do well, if you start to be one of the more successful gun retailers in your area, well then they really crack down on you.
00:16:40.000I was recently in the Pacific Northwest where states have instituted very draconian gun policies and they said, you know, the ATF doesn't bother us so much because when we have to endure the even worse standards in Washington State, in Oregon, in California...
00:16:58.000Well, the ATF knows that they can then go focus on the red states.
00:17:02.000They can go focus on people in Florida and Alabama and South Carolina and Texas, places where our state governments actually want to vindicate our rights, not chip away at them.
00:17:14.000Now, the ATF also has a real problem living up to their own standard.
00:17:20.000This was a point brilliantly made by the head of the American Firearms Association, Patrick Parsons, at our hearing.
00:17:30.000Congress has called the ATF, quote, a largely duplicative scandal-ridden agency that lacks a clear mission.
00:17:36.000It is plagued by backlogs, funding gaps, hiring challenges, and a lack of leadership.
00:17:41.000For decades, it has been branded by high-profile failures.
00:17:46.000Earlier this year, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel reported to the Biden Administration that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives for years Illegally overpaid up to $20 million to agents and investigators who worked in non-law enforcement positions by misclassifying them as law enforcement posts.
00:18:05.000Regarding the recent pistol brace rule, in his Judiciary Committee testimony, Director Dettelbach said, quote,"...we wrote the rule to make it easy to comply with.
00:18:14.000If somebody just at their home detaches the weapon from the brace and keeps them apart, they don't have to register anything.
00:18:22.000They can keep the brace and they can keep the business end of the gun." But the written rule says to comply in this manner, the owner must permanently remove and dispose of or alter the stabilizing brace such that it cannot be reattached, thereby removing the weapon from regulation as a firearm under the NFA. This inconsistency from Mr. Dettelbach, in my opinion, is a scandal.
00:18:47.000His unfamiliarity with his own regulatory policy will undoubtedly lead to confusion among tens of millions of pistol-brace owners.
00:18:54.000On the surface alone, as I said, this is a scandal.
00:18:57.000The director of the ATF, under oath, publicly at odds with his own regulation.
00:19:06.000Not a lot of love for the ATF on the live stream.
00:19:08.000Tiger Dons, 1971 on Rumble, says defund the ATF. You cannot create a department whose sole purpose is circumventing the Constitution, disarming the people.
00:19:21.000We've got legislation to do just that.
00:19:24.000But it's not just in Washington where we can take action in order to vindicate gun rights.
00:19:30.000We have a lot of opportunities in the state legislature.
00:19:34.000A very strong pro-Second Amendment state representative for Florida comes from my congressional district, Dr. Joel Rudman.
00:19:42.000Dr. Rudman laid out legislation that he's pursuing in Florida to ensure that delays with national systems don't stop Floridians from being able to access firearms.
00:19:53.000Here's Dr. Rudman's testimony regarding that important legislation.
00:19:56.000A lot of the issues we have with these delayed background checks, it's actually not the state of Florida.
00:20:05.000It's when people move to Florida from other states.
00:20:44.000You can imagine, if I'm calling from Tallahassee needing some information, and I'm calling Sacramento, do you think they're going to be in a rush to give that information to Tallahassee?
00:20:54.000Or if the FBI were calling, who do you think is going to get their phone call We're not going to give them as much money as they need to do their job properly,
00:21:12.000but if they can't do it, worst case Thank you, Dr. Rudman, for ensuring that Florida is doing everything possible for gun owners and for our gun rights.
00:21:39.000This evidence is very important for the fight that is upcoming in the halls of Congress regarding whether or not to defund the salary of the ATF director, the entire agency, whether to repeal the legislation, or not even the legislation, the rules that the ATF has put in place to try to make law-abiding people criminals.
00:21:58.000Thank you to everyone who participated.
00:22:00.000Much more to come in our fight against the ATF. But now I want to tell you a little bit about a visit that my wife, Ginger, and my Washington-based congressional staff made yesterday.
00:22:13.000Now, it's with great reverence and solemnity that we visited the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, and we laid a wreath on behalf of Florida's 1st Congressional District.
00:22:22.000Nestled in the heart of Arlington National Cemetery, the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, it's so much more than a monument.
00:22:29.000It is a tribute to the unnamed heroes who laid down their lives in service of our country.
00:22:35.000The identities of many who fought for our country, who've died in foreign lands, will forever be veiled in mystery.
00:22:43.000But their courage and their dedication will be forever etched into our hearts.
00:22:49.000The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was established on March 4th, 1921, and the tomb holds the remains of an unidentified American soldier from World War I, representing all of those who paid the ultimate price for our freedom.
00:23:03.000And a lot of them But we'll never know their names.
00:23:06.000This monument is a striking edifice with white marble.
00:23:10.000It stands proudly overlooking Washington, D.C. A silent sentinel reminding us of the cost of liberty, and we must take occasion to be reminded of that each and every day.
00:23:22.000The inscription on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier reads, Here rests in honored glory an American soldier known but to God.
00:23:32.000These words resonate with a profound truth that every soldier, known or unknown, is a hero deserving of our deepest gratitude and respect.
00:23:41.000The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is guarded 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, in any weather, rain, shine, snow.
00:23:49.000We get some rough weather here in Washington, D.C. But these dedicated sentinels All volunteers embody the highest standards of honor and dedication in our country.
00:24:01.000The changing of the guard ceremony is this powerful spectacle.
00:24:04.000It's an exercise in discipline and respect, and it captivates visitors from around the globe.
00:24:11.000The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is more than a monument.
00:24:13.000It is a symbol of our nation's undying gratitude to our best.
00:24:19.000A reminder of our shared history and a beacon of hope for all generations.
00:24:24.000It stands as a testament to the fact that every soldier's story, known or unknown, is vital to the fabric of America's terrific identity.
00:24:34.000It was a magnificent time and I hope that if anyone makes the trip to Washington DC, you include Arlington in your visit and a visit to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier because it allows us to rededicate ourselves There's another story I want to tell you about a member of the squad who seems to have lost it a little bit.
00:24:57.000This goes back to an odd person called Tara Dublin who tried to follow us around and harass us on a trip that I took out to Washington State some years ago.
00:25:08.000And just so that you're caught up to date, I'm going to play you the voicemail of this so-called journalist, Tara Dublin, and then you're going to see which member of the squad she has teamed up with to attack me more recently.
00:25:25.000Hi, my name is Tara Dublin, and I am a contributor at Hillreporter.com, and I am in Clark County, Washington, where I am a resident, where Matt Gates traveled to yesterday in the court of Joe Kent.
00:25:37.000The local Republican challenger to Jamie Herrera-Butler and I had an interview with Joe Kent that Matt Gaetz was supposed to sit in until Matt Gaetz found out I was the person conducting the interview and then he canceled.
00:25:48.000And we were led on a wild goose chase to a private fundraiser where we weren't going to be let in.
00:25:52.000And then we went to the rally where Matt Gaetz's private security detail and Joe Kent's private security detail were incredibly aggressive towards us and intimidating.
00:26:02.000Matt Gaetz refused to speak to me but he had no problem Retweeting a tweet of mine with a video where I'm speaking.
00:26:09.000And now Matt Gaetz's followers are swarming me and trolling me and insulting my appearance and calling me butch and a dyke and saying terrible things and frightening me because Matt Gaetz's virtue signaled his followers on me, which is a violation of Twitter terms of service.
00:26:25.000So what I am asking for on this date, September 7th, where I live in Washington State, it is 2.41 in the afternoon.
00:26:34.000I know he's not going to apologize because he doesn't apologize for anything, but I do want him to delete that tweet that is going after me like that, going after a private citizen.
00:27:39.000If someone didn't want to be swarmed or criticized or attacked, would they do something like I'm about to show you?
00:27:47.000I don't even know how to set this clip up because it's so bizarre, but the voicemail you just listened to was from several years ago, and then this clip was posted yesterday.
00:29:07.000If voters turn out, we win, and when we win, we are going to win big.
00:29:12.000Voting rights, women's right to choose, common sense gun reform, reparations, affordable housing, Everything that we have been fighting our entire lives for, it's time for a new American revolution led by the historically marginalized people of this country.
00:29:58.000Now, they call me A thread to democracy while saying that the only just result is that they have one party rule in the United States Congress without a single Republican.
00:30:11.000Now, does that sound like a democracy to you?
00:30:13.000Or does that sound more like the Duma or the Politburo?
00:30:27.000And they want revolution and reparations.
00:30:30.000And while they march to expand the Supreme Court, to pack the court, to cheat to achieve these objectives, they're willing to call you and me and anyone who fights for our country and our freedom and our values and our language and our culture a threat.
00:30:48.000If you want to harm America, I guess we are threats because we stand each and every day for the Constitution, and I am exceedingly grateful for the support that all of you have offered me during this time in Congress.
00:30:59.000Now, many of you on the live chat have suggested that I seek the speakership and maybe replace the current occupant.
00:31:08.000Despite the kindness and support all of you show me, there would be Somewhere between no support for me to be Speaker of the House and very, very insufficient support to be able to hold that position, but we will certainly hold the line each and every day.
00:31:24.000And so that you are informed about these matters and what is coming before the Congress and the evidence we're developing, make sure you're subscribed to this podcast, turn your notifications on, and tune in soon for more Firebrand.