Firebrand - Matt Gaetz - Episode 115 LIVE: End Birthright Citizenship – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

In this episode, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-GAZETTE) talks about his opposition to birthright citizenship and why he thinks it s time to end it. He also talks about the dangers of "anchor babies" and their role in the immigration system, and how they contribute to the problem of illegal immigration. He also explains why he believes that the 14th Amendment should be read as a limiting clause in the Constitution and why Congress should not have the power to determine rules for citizenship and naturalization. And finally, he explains why the Supreme Court should be the one to rule on the question of whether or not there is any such thing as a "naturalization" in the United States as a country, and why it should be limited to those born on American soil. Firebrand is a conservative political podcast produced in Washington, D.C., by conservative radio host and radio host Matt Gr unplugged from Room 2021 at the Rayburn House Office Building in the Capitol Complex in Washington. Subscribe to Firebrand Radio and listen to every new episode of Firebrand wherever you get your favorite radio station on the airwaves. If you like what you listen, share it on your social media platforms, and share it with a friend or become a supporter of the show on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you re listening, we'll be looking for your voice messages. Thanks for listening and support Firebrand! Subscribe, share, and spread the word to your friends about this firebrand podcast! Timestamps: 1:00 - The Firebrand Revolution! 2:00 3: 4:30 - What's your thoughts on Birthright Citizenship? 5:00 | Birthright citizenship? 6:40 - What does it mean to you? 7:50 - What are you would you like to see in the future of the Constitution? 8:15 - What is a naturalization law? 9:30 | What is the definition of naturalization? 11:30 12:15 | What does the Constitution mean? 13:10 - What would you want? 15:40 | What s your answer? 16:40 17: What s the limiting clause? 18:10 | What's the best way to be a naturalized citizen? 19:10 21:00 -- What is your definition of a naturalizer? 22:30 -- What are your definition?

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:04:51.000 Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.

00:04:59.000 Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.

00:05:01.000 He can cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.

00:05:04.000 So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.

00:05:08.000 If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots!

00:05:17.000 You are in the right place!

00:05:19.000 This is the movement for you!

00:05:21.000 You ever watch this guy on television?

00:05:23.000 It's like a machine.

00:05:24.000 Matt Gaetz.

00:05:25.000 I'm a canceled man in some corners of the internet.

00:05:29.000 Many days I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.

00:05:33.000 They aren't really coming for me.

00:05:35.000 They're coming for you.

00:05:38.000 I'm just in the way.

00:05:43.000 Welcome back to Firebrand.

00:05:44.000 We're broadcasting live out of room 2021 in the Rayburn House office building here at the Capitol Complex in Washington, D.C. And what a week it is set to be here in Washington.

00:05:54.000 We've got a big hearing on UFOs coming up tomorrow.

00:05:58.000 We've got Alejandro Mayorkas, the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:06:03.000 Before the House Judiciary Committee, we've got tough questions about the state of our border and really the doctrine that That Biden, Harris, and Mayorkas have put in place to ensure that if people show up on our border and they've got any sort of sad song that is pre-baked by some NGO, they get to come to the country.

00:06:22.000 They never have to leave.

00:06:23.000 And then the consequence of that is that they get married, have kids.

00:06:27.000 Those kids then, by virtue of our laws, are automatically citizens.

00:06:32.000 And that's what starts the pulling of chain migration.

00:06:35.000 So, I've introduced legislation to...

00:06:38.000 We ought to end birthright citizenship as we currently know it because birthright citizenship by fraud has started to predominate in a few areas and in a few industries.

00:06:52.000 So let me give you the background.

00:06:53.000 In 2021, 400,000 anchor babies were born in the United States, outpacing the births in 49 states.

00:07:03.000 So how has it come to this?

00:07:04.000 How have millions of illegal aliens managed to cross our borders illegally and break our laws? 1.00

00:07:10.000 Remember, unlawful entry into the country is a crime.

00:07:13.000 It's not one we ever prosecute with any force or deterrent effect, but it is a crime.

00:07:19.000 Anchor babies on our soil create this indefinite sanctuary for the parent. 1.00

00:07:26.000 And that doesn't really make sense with a coordinated, organized immigration system either.

00:07:31.000 So an erroneous interpretation of the 14th Amendment has found its way into the Immigration and Nationality Act and is now the law of the land.

00:07:40.000 That's why I've introduced the End Birthright Citizenship Fraud Act of 2023 to To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to reflect the original intent of the drafters of the 14th Amendment.

00:07:54.000 The 14th Amendment reads, All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside.

00:08:07.000 Insanely, and against the wishes of many of the drafters of the 14th Amendment, the powers that be have interpreted it to give citizenship to virtually every human born on American soil.

00:08:19.000 This is not a standard that is largely recognized in the modern world.

00:08:24.000 And in America, the key limiting term, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, has been totally cast to the wayside and disregarded despite the Supreme Court having never ruled that the 14th Amendment grants citizenship to anyone other than children born to lawful permanent residence.

00:08:46.000 They haven't really ruled on the meaning of the clause, particularly subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

00:08:51.000 So despite what you may have heard about this unqualified birthright citizenship, it's not ensconced in the 14th Amendment.

00:08:59.000 At least the Supreme Court has never said that it is.

00:09:01.000 is, and I'm confident that if they did rule on the subject, they would find that subject to the jurisdiction thereof is a limiting clause.

00:09:11.000 If it weren't in the 14th Amendment, a greater group of people would have access to this birthright citizenship, but subject to the jurisdiction thereof is clearly a limiting clause, meaning that only those subject to the jurisdiction of the United States would be granted citizenship under the 14th Amendment. meaning that only those subject to the jurisdiction of the Those not covered Are at the mercy of Congress, whether you like it or not.

00:09:35.000 And we as the Congress have every right to exercise power to determine rules for citizenship and naturalization.

00:09:41.000 After all, Congress has this power in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the Constitution, which says, quote, To establish a uniform rule of naturalization.

00:09:52.000 That is the statement of the rule in the Constitution as to Congress' powers over this area.

00:09:58.000 So what does the phrase, subject to this jurisdiction thereof, mean when it comes to the 14th Amendment?

00:10:04.000 It is a legal term of art, and it was understood by the drafters of the 14th Amendment to have its basis in English common law.

00:10:13.000 So we have to go back now and analyze what that English common law educates us on.

00:10:19.000 So the earliest known case, to articulate this in England, it was agreed that statuses of subject and alien to different things, a binary choice, that those were determined by whether a person was born owing an allegiance to the sovereign.

00:10:37.000 That actually kind of makes sense in old world England.

00:10:39.000 Whether a person at birth is under the allegiance and obedience to the sovereign is not determined by whether The operative question is whether or not the parent is present in the territory lawfully,

00:11:00.000 permanently, not only voluntarily availing himself to the jurisdiction thereof, but doing so with the explicit consent of the sovereign.

00:11:12.000 Senator Howard, when proposing this language to be included in the 14th Amendment, made reference to these English common law concepts.

00:11:20.000 He clarified his intent that citizenship should not be conveyed to everyone born or present in the United States when he stated, quote, This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers, a credit to the United States government, but will include every other class of persons.

00:11:45.000 Senator Lyman Trumbull, a key figure in the adoption of the 14th Amendment, said that subject to the jurisdiction of the United States meant not owing an allegiance to any other country.

00:11:55.000 Thank you.

00:11:56.000 Owing an allegiance to the United States and being subject to its complete jurisdiction means not subject to any foreign power, and it excludes those only temporarily present in the country, whether lawfully or unlawfully.

00:12:10.000 The 14th Amendment's framers intended to give citizenship only to those who owed their allegiance to the United States and were subject to its complete jurisdiction.

00:12:20.000 Primarily, newly freed slaves would qualify.

00:12:23.000 They were lawful, permanent residents.

00:12:27.000 The 1866 Civil Rights Act further clarified that the 14th Amendment did not apply to temporary visitors or those who remained the citizen or subject of a parent's home country.

00:12:40.000 When it stated, You notice the exclusionary language in that declaration.

00:12:56.000 American Indians and their children did not become citizens until Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1942, which would have been redundant if the 14th Amendment extended citizenship to every person in the United States, no matter what the circumstances of the birth of their parent.

00:13:13.000 You wouldn't even have needed the Indian Naturalization Act if the version of the 14th Amendment that the broad birthright citizenship Lobby supports were in fact the operative thinking around what that term meant and what the legal consequences were.

00:13:31.000 So it's clear the unqualified birthright citizenship has never been the intent of the 14th Amendment.

00:13:37.000 Our country is suffering under this absurd interpretation now.

00:13:41.000 There's not a serious country on earth that would allow open borders and then grant citizenship to the children of every alien that decided to creep into the territory. 1.00

00:13:52.000 And it's time that Congress got serious about fixing this problem.

00:13:55.000 It's why I've introduced the legislation to end birthright citizenship by fraud. 0.60

00:14:01.000 Illegal immigrants right now are crossing our borders, they're having kids, and they're staying for life, taking advantage of chain migration to bring over relatives. 1.00

00:14:10.000 And this is what really gets me.

00:14:12.000 Some of this birthright citizenship by fraud that occurs on the U.S.-Mexico border Results in the person having a child in the United States, moving back to Mexico where it's cheaper to live, and then sending their kids across the border every day to attend American schools, get benefits under America's social services, and taking advantage of American taxpayers by crowding out Americans.

00:14:39.000 Birth tourism.

00:14:41.000 If you haven't heard that term, get used to it.

00:14:43.000 It was really an exploding feature of the black market where people come in on temporary visas to have their babies in order to take advantage of our immigration laws.

00:14:55.000 This black market is rampant in US territories particularly, with more births going on every year to foreign visitors than to the native-born residents in some of those places.

00:15:07.000 You see it every day.

00:15:08.000 You see it on the border.

00:15:09.000 You see it in our communities.

00:15:11.000 Our country is being invaded. 0.97

00:15:12.000 The whole world is laughing at us, taking advantage of us and our foolish immigration laws. 1.00

00:15:17.000 We cannot be victims of a stupid loophole derived from a misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment. 0.99

00:15:25.000 No one really believes that this is what our founders intended. 0.98

00:15:30.000 We don't need a constitutional amendment.

00:15:32.000 All we need to do is amend existing law, and that's why I'm leading this fight.

00:15:35.000 Call your congressman.

00:15:36.000 Tell them to vote for the End Birthright Citizenship by Fraud Act of 2023. And if we do this, maybe we can restore some sanity to this crazy place. 0.71

00:15:51.000 All right.

00:15:52.000 I want to bring you up to date regarding another matter in Florida.

00:15:55.000 Apparently a great deal of drugs are washing up on our beaches more than we've seen in prior years.

00:16:01.000 Take a look and listen to this report.

00:16:07.000 You won't believe what washed up on Neptune Beach this morning.

00:16:11.000 Did you get it here?

00:16:12.000 There was pot, just marijuana all up and down here.

00:16:15.000 I'm surprised there wasn't a bunch of hippies on the beach.

00:16:19.000 I'm picking it up!

00:16:23.000 Tons of loose, unpackaged marijuana washed onto shore, enough to cover parts of the shoreline near Florida Boulevard.

00:16:30.000 Brian Kruse says it looked like a scene out of a TV show.

00:16:34.000 You know, watching shows, I don't know from personal experience, but watching shows, I mean, if it had been all put together compacted, it probably would have been like probably 5 or 10 pounds.

00:16:43.000 Neptune Beach Police Department posted these photos on Facebook, warning people not to try and pick it up or take it home.

00:16:49.000 It looks a lot like sargasm, so it's easy to confuse.

00:16:53.000 But Zach West just knew something was off when he looked at it.

00:16:58.000 He took a whiff for validation.

00:17:00.000 I mean, I did pick it up and smell and see what it's going like, and it was sweet, so I was like, okay, that's kind of crazy.

00:17:05.000 Once he confirmed that it's Beach Bud, his mom called 911. But me and my mom were kind of concerned just because, you know, they're babies and they get it.

00:17:14.000 Nowadays, you know, they lace it with fentanyl and so they could have picked it up and there could have been fentanyl on it and baby just dropped dead.

00:17:20.000 Nobody around with Narcan.

00:17:22.000 Officers eventually came out to the beach and cleaned it up.

00:17:25.000 No word yet on who it belongs to or how it got there.

00:17:28.000 But some speculate it happened during high tide.

00:17:35.000 We are back live.

00:17:36.000 No one knows yet who it belongs to, how it got there.

00:17:37.000 who it belongs to, how it got there.

00:17:39.000 So this has been a part of the Florida lore for decades.

00:17:42.000 What happens, the growers of marijuana who are often outside the country, oftentimes in the Caribbean or in the Sinaloa Mountains, they then utilize small planes to go and drop bales offshore with tracking devices, homing devices.

00:17:43.000 What happens?

00:17:58.000 And then oftentimes late at night, maybe it's a fisherman looking to make a little extra money.

00:18:03.000 Maybe it's just a smuggler with a pleasure craft.

00:18:06.000 They go out and pick up these bales and bring them onto shore where they're loaded onto cars and trucks, sometimes even rail, and distributed.

00:18:14.000 So we used to call these the square grouper.

00:18:18.000 You know, people would see the large square bale.

00:18:21.000 And if folks in Florida in the 1970s, 1980s ever said they were going grouper fishing...

00:18:29.000 A question they would sometimes get is whether that was for square grouper, and if it was, well, they were not in the business of catching the traditional type of fish that you and I would eat.

00:18:39.000 The serious point to be made here is that we are seeing an increase in the utilization of the Florida Straits for illicit behavior.

00:18:45.000 Go back and watch the Don't Haiti My Florida episode, where we chronicled what we learned from the Coast Guard About the Florida Straits being used to move people, being used to move drugs, and while there's an intense amount of focus on what's going on in the southwest border,

00:19:00.000 which there should be because that affects every state, in Florida we have unique vulnerabilities and I think we need to have a unique law enforcement presence, a strategy, utilization of technology to ensure that we are not vulnerable to cartels utilizing our beautiful, permissive beaches for otherwise malign activity.

00:19:21.000 The next story I want to talk to you about is one of tragedy at the Obama residence in Martha's Vineyard where the chef for the Obamas has drowned.

00:19:30.000 According to the Daily Mail, Tafari Campbell, a personal chef for the Obamas, died in a paddleboarding accident at their Martha's Vineyard estate.

00:19:40.000 Campbell was 45 years old.

00:19:41.000 He had previously worked in the White House during the Bush presidency and continued with the Obamas after they left office.

00:19:47.000 Campbell had been working for the Obama family for 14 years, first in the White House and then privately.

00:19:53.000 And this tragic incident occurred when Campbell was apparently paddleboarding It is unclear who Campbell was with at the time of the accident.

00:20:07.000 A 911 call describes Campbell as wearing all black and not wearing a life jacket, which...

00:20:14.000 It's just an odd detail that somebody on a paddleboard in the middle of a pond wouldn't be wearing a life jacket.

00:20:21.000 It remains unclear whether Campbell suffered any kind of medical episode while on the board.

00:20:26.000 Additionally, the Obamas stated that they were not home at the time of the accident.

00:20:30.000 They later clarified that they were on Martha's Vineyard.

00:20:33.000 They were on the island, just not at their residence.

00:20:35.000 Campbell's wife, Sharice, expressed her grief on Instagram, stating that her heart is broken and their family's life is forever changed.

00:20:43.000 The couple shared twin 19-year-old sons.

00:20:47.000 Users on social media are pointing to a video...

00:20:50.000 of Campbell previously swimming in a pool saying it was strange how a guy swimming in a pool would drown in eight feet of water in a pond where you wouldn't see the type of current that might otherwise take down a strong swimmer.

00:21:05.000 Now it's important to note for context, in this video he's swimming in a very controlled setting, shallow water, lifeguards nearby, Certainly not out of the ordinary for someone with minimal swimming skills to be able to swim in that type of a setting while still finding a tragic fate somewhere else.

00:21:21.000 We certainly send our thoughts, our wishes, our prayers, and our heartfelt condolences to all those that are impacted by this tragedy and particularly the family members of the deceased.

00:21:35.000 Oddly, Hillary Clinton's former chef died in a drowning as well.

00:21:39.000 What are the odds?

00:21:40.000 Former White House chef Walter Scheib, 61, accidentally drowned in New Mexico, presumably on a fishing trip in 2015. He was last seen Saturday, June 13, before he We're good to go.

00:22:08.000 Mountain drainage ditched and there was flowing surface runoff indicating that the cause of death was a drowning.

00:22:15.000 Scheib was a former White House chef for 11 years under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

00:22:19.000 He did not tell anyone where he was going when he went to the trail, but a lot of folks believed he had gone there to fish.

00:22:25.000 Certainly an odd turn of events and a tragic one.

00:22:30.000 We are glad that something else making the news right now did not end in tragedy.

00:22:34.000 Everywhere on the internet right now we're seeing that Bronny James, the son of LeBron James, suffered a cardiac arrest while working out with the USC basketball team.

00:22:43.000 He was taken to a hospital and it sounds like things were dire.

00:22:46.000 He's in stable condition now, which we're certainly grateful for, but it really does.

00:22:53.000 Do we have the picture of this young man, Sasha, we could put up?

00:22:57.000 Okay, we don't have that.

00:22:58.000 But if you go look at the Bronny James, this is a world-class athlete.

00:23:05.000 World-class athlete in high school.

00:23:07.000 Perfect physical condition.

00:23:09.000 Goes off to USC. Is likely what they call in the NBA a one-and-done player.

00:23:16.000 One year in college and then immediately to the pros.

00:23:18.000 And LeBron James in a lot of interviews has been pretty candid that one of his life goals is to play in the NBA alongside his son.

00:23:26.000 I don't know if that's ever happened before.

00:23:28.000 Certainly when you look at how elite of an athlete you have to be in today's NBA, the ability for a father-son duo to team up at all, much less be effective, really defies the odds.

00:23:40.000 But you look at the choices LeBron James has made Regarding his own physical fitness, keeping himself in shape, managing his workload to be able to play with his son.

00:23:50.000 You look at Ronnie James, who probably has had the benefit of the greatest tutor and teacher you could ever imagine in LeBron.

00:23:58.000 A physical specimen and to see something so sudden around the heart for someone in their teens is certainly something that is hard to watch because you don't typically associate that type of an ailment with someone that is in the peak human physical condition.

00:24:20.000 And oddly, we've seen it before.

00:24:21.000 We saw it with Buffalo Bills defensive back, Damar Hamlin.

00:24:25.000 We've seen it with Sergio Aguero, Christian Erickson, soccer players who had cardiac issues.

00:24:34.000 One had to be resuscitated at the pitch.

00:24:37.000 Others have had to make different career choices.

00:24:40.000 We also saw it happen with Damar Hamlin.

00:24:42.000 So whatever it is that is ailing these young men In near perfect physical condition, we hope it's something that's resolved, but it's something we're certainly going to pay a good deal of attention to.

00:24:55.000 As we typically do, we're going to take a look at an incident going on in the world right now.

00:24:59.000 Many of you know that I've been a strong advocate to get the United States out of the conflict in Syria.

00:25:05.000 We are not invited there.

00:25:07.000 Our reason for being in Syria has largely With changing geopolitical circumstances.

00:25:13.000 And the point I've made over and over about Syria is that with Iran there, with Russia there, with a lot of great power competition playing out in this very small desert country, there is a high probability for escalatory accident.

00:25:28.000 Escalatory accident.

00:25:29.000 We do not want to see World War III break out over some sand dune in Syria.

00:25:36.000 The United States Department of Defense has recently released declassified information where a Russian jet harassed an MQ-9 Predator drone from the United States.

00:25:46.000 It was flying and here, if you're watching, you can see this is the Russian jet approaching the drone and it gets very close.

00:25:55.000 And thereafter actually gets in front of the drone and deploys a series of flares.

00:26:00.000 One of those flares ends up striking the propeller of the drone and causing damage to it.

00:26:06.000 This is very contested airspace.

00:26:09.000 You've got a lot of activity going on there, and you can only imagine if instead of a drone that had been some sort of manned system, what could have possibly occurred and what that could have started for the sake of the world, certainly for the worse.

00:26:23.000 I don't know what we're trying to win in Syria.

00:26:25.000 I don't know why it's worth bumping around Russian aircraft in this place in the Middle East. 1.00

00:26:30.000 And I certainly think that wiser heads should prevail.

00:26:33.000 The last time we had a vote on this question, I only had a couple dozen Republicans hang with me.

00:26:38.000 A great many more of them wanted to keep a national emergency in place that gaslights a lot of your money to Syria and certainly undergirds the argument that we have to continue to maintain some sort of military presence there.

00:26:52.000 We don't.

00:26:52.000 Those who tell you we do, I think, adhere to a more neoconservative theory that I think has largely resulted in misadventures for our country, and we can make sounder decisions going forward.

00:27:05.000 This is going to be a big week.

00:27:07.000 Tomorrow, we've got Mayorkas. 1.00

00:27:09.000 We've got the UFO hearings.

00:27:11.000 That's going to be significant.

00:27:12.000 If you've got suggestions for questions you want to see me ask, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, leave them in the comments.

00:27:19.000 Leave them in the review section.

00:27:21.000 I crowdsource questions a good amount going into these.

00:27:24.000 And on the UFOs as well, my colleagues on Apolino Luna, Tim Burchett, Jared Moskowitz are all teaming up for a bipartisan briefing about some of these.

00:27:33.000 I guess now they're not UFOs, they're UAPs, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.

00:27:38.000 I've seen some things that...

00:27:41.000 I'm certainly not aware of capabilities for humans for some of the things I've seen.

00:27:47.000 And we may learn a lot.

00:27:49.000 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:27:50.000 Make sure you are subscribed.

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00:27:56.000 That's the way you get a notification every time we go live so that you get the news first.

00:28:00.000 Appreciate you being with us.

00:28:02.000 We'll be back soon.

00:28:03.000 Roll the credits.

Firebrand - Matt Gaetz - July 25, 2023

Episode 115 LIVE: End Birthright Citizenship – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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