Andy Ogles of Tennessee joins us to talk about the border crisis, the Mayorkers impeachment, and the need for border security. We also discuss the immigration crisis and how we can all work together to fix it. We are in no way affiliated with the Bill and Hillary Clinton campaign, the DNC, or the Democratic Party, but we are all Americans and we all deserve a safe and secure border. We can all be a part of the solution to this problem, and we should all be prepared to fight for our borders. Thank you for listening and share the podcast with your friends, family, and your fellow patriots. Tweet Me! if you like the podcast and/or have any thoughts or suggestions on how to improve the show. We are always open to suggestions for new segments, shoutouts, and shout outs. Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What is a border crisis? 4:30 - How do we fix the border? 6:15 - What can we do to fix the problem? 7:00 - What should we do about it? 8:20 - What do we do next? 9:40 - How can we get a border bill? 11:10 - What s going to happen? 12:00- What is the best solution? 13:15 14:30 15:30- What does the country need to do? 16:10 17:10- What s the best way to get a better border deal? 17 - What are we need? 18: What is our response? 19: What s our response to the border situation? 21: Should we do in response to this? 22:00s 23: What do you think about the situation in Washington? 26:40 27:40- What are you would you like to see? 25:00 | What are your thoughts on the situation on border security? 29:10 | What s your answer? 32:40 | How do you want us to do in the future? 35:30 | What would you want to see in the United States? 36:00 +3:00 // 35: What are our reaction to this episode? 31:30 +3 +4:40 +4) - What's our reaction? 37:00+4:00 & 35:00
00:01:47.000I'm sending the firebrands. - What is being done to get the public to really rise up in various states to say to their senators that they want to see the borders, the border issue resolved?
00:02:09.000I mean, you're getting migrants beating up policemen in the streets of New York.
00:02:14.000You're seeing an influx of migrants all over the country that frankly have people outraged and Couldn't there be some kind of public pressure put in the next couple of days in some of these senator states saying, why are you allowing this to continue?
00:02:31.000Because at the end of the day, senators have to deal with their voters.
00:02:35.000And at the same time, in the bill, you give money to Gaza, to civilians in Gaza and Israel.
00:02:44.000But the border, I mean, we're looking every day at the invasion of migrants and they're playing a time game with politics on this.
00:02:52.000Couldn't that pressure put the bear in their home states?
00:03:39.000Al Sharpton calling the invasion what it is.
00:03:43.000Asking for people to rise up and let their senators know that they've got to have changes on border policy.
00:03:51.000I could not believe that was Al Sharpton.
00:03:53.000But now we've got Mayorkas impeachment vote in just moments.
00:03:57.000We've got this government funding coming due in March.
00:04:02.000And the Senate border deal Has been blown up because of great House conservatives like my guest for this episode, Andy Ogles of Tennessee.
00:04:10.000Congressman Ogles is in his first term, but he has been in a lot of the major fights to change Washington.
00:04:15.000A fiscal hawk kind of came up really as an activist, as a frontline activist in the conservative movement, and now represents some of the great areas kind of outside around the Nashville area.
00:05:57.000If Mayorkas were just an incompetent dude and the border were open, that would justify the Holman rule, taking his salary to zero, constraining his authorities.
00:06:07.000But this is a highly competent individual who is executing a tragic and illegal plan against the United States.
00:06:19.000And what was so funny is there were a lot of discussions with House leadership and more senior members saying, oh, well, we're going to get jammed by this Senate bill.
00:06:27.000This Senate bill is going to be just so overwhelmingly popular that we'll be forced to take things we don't want on maybe...
00:06:33.000Ukraine or deficit spending, but we'll just have to take these border provisions.
00:06:37.000And when the public found out, it doesn't end catch and release.
00:06:40.000It doesn't end the unrestricted abuse of parole from the Biden administration.
00:06:45.000It has this 5,000 person a day trigger, which, by the way, Joe Biden can waive at any point for 45 days.
00:06:52.000It gives him all this additional emergency authority.
00:06:55.000$1.4 billion In grants to the open border NGOs, so you'll be funding the invasion, too, while it's happening, according to those numbers.
00:07:05.000And, you know, typically, the Senate rolls us, man.
00:07:08.000I mean, I know you're in your freshman term, but I've been here so many years where Mitch will stitch together one of these omnibus bills, and we're just forced to take it.
00:07:17.000And in no time, we blew this thing out of the water.
00:07:20.000What do you think contributed to that reversal of fortune?
00:07:23.000Well, I mean, the name of your show, Firebrands, right?
00:07:26.000You know, conservatives, we stood up and said, no, hell no, we called it what it was.
00:07:33.000And then the American people, I mean, when you've got Al Sharpton talking about an invasion, when you've got the mayor of Chicago or the mayor of New York saying, please close the border, I mean, I don't understand what the Senate was thinking.
00:07:45.000I mean, they totally misread the tea leaves on this one, not to mention the $60 billion for Ukraine.
00:07:50.000I mean, that's more money than we gave our Marine Corps last year.
00:08:20.000What I can tell you is there has been debate within the Republican conference, and absent unanimity, you always can count on the Democrats to line up behind their guy.
00:08:28.000Now, maybe there are a few Democrats in some swing seats who want to vote to impeach Mayorkas.
00:08:33.000We'll see if they have to turn up their head.
00:08:41.000And if people don't think that Mayorkas has committed impeachable offenses on the border, then that's between them and their district.
00:08:47.000And I'll let them explain that and deal with that, whether they're Republican or Democrats.
00:08:51.000But you have a specific proposal that you're going to announce on the program, a kind of concept on how to think about the people who are here illegally.
00:09:11.000So we picked the beginning of the Biden administration.
00:09:14.000So that goes back to January 20th, 2021. And I would also argue that you've got to go back further in time and begin processing people out of this country.
00:09:25.000You've got to, you know, how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time?
00:09:27.000So this is an approach where we're going to start deporting people.
00:09:30.000So it's a fast-track approach that if you came into this country illegally under the Biden administration, you would be, quite frankly, eligible, if you will, for expedited removal.
00:09:40.000So this would be the biggest deportation in American history ever contemplated.
00:09:46.000I mean, this is the legislative exoskeleton for what President Trump is talking about and how to remediate what has occurred because that's kind of the difference between where we are now in 2016, right?
00:09:58.000In 2016, it was, you know, build the wall, then you got to figure out how to get the criminals out.
00:10:46.000I personally believe that he is trying to flood Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona with this new class of voter that the Democrats can get hooked on cell phones and food stamps and welfare, whatever else, so that those three states are forever blue.
00:11:06.000People think, well, maybe I have a really good supervisor of elections, or I've got a really good attorney general that would never let the illegal aliens vote.
00:11:13.000At the end of the day, if they're getting counted in the census, which by the way they are, then you start to see states like Ohio losing congressional seats, and those congressional seats can reappear in blue states where they've chosen to be sanctuaries and allow all these people to come.
00:11:27.000So that is a shift in political power that they are trying to achieve through illegal immigration.
00:11:34.000It brings us to thinking about this upcoming budget fight that we have in March.
00:11:42.000All the talk about the need for a border bill has resulted in House Speaker Johnson and many others concluding that actually Joe Biden could close the border anytime he wanted.
00:11:53.000All you have to do is reinstitute the Trump policies and don't abuse the parole authority and the asylum authority And this is like an eight-point plan to solve the problem.
00:12:03.000Do you think the Republican majority needs a bill in the House?
00:12:08.000Because I worry if we think we have to have an immigration bill, then we're willing to trade something that the America Last crowd wants for it.
00:12:16.000And at the end of the day, what we actually just need is Joe Biden to secure the border.
00:12:20.000You and I both know, your audience knows, he has the power today.
00:12:23.000You didn't have this problem under Trump.
00:12:25.000Quite frankly, we didn't have these numbers under Obama.
00:13:01.000There's not some retreat off of that that you think achieves it.
00:13:05.000And what I think reinforces that theory is what our colleague Andy Biggs often says is that even if HR2 were a law, that would be great when Donald Trump is president because then a Republican president would have the tools to have expanded removal authority.
00:13:21.000Basically what you're proposing in the Send Them Back Act.
00:13:26.000Give a Republican administration the extra tools to do that.
00:13:29.000But when you're dealing with the lawless Biden administration, what's to stop them from just memoing over HR2? It's like, well, we've got a new interpretation of economic duress that creates this whole new asylum structure.
00:13:42.000Well, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, talking about the tools.
00:13:44.000We're trying to equip Trump to have the right tools to do the job that needs to be done.
00:14:21.000Mitch McConnell just went and executed his own supplemental.
00:14:24.000He walked Senator Langford off the plank.
00:14:26.000We've talked extensively about how bad that deal was, but when Mitch McConnell is putting the slug in the back of the head of the bill, I mean, that was just...
00:14:37.000That we can win if we force these things to be evaluated separately and sanely.
00:14:42.000But I don't think that we have to pin our hopes for a secure border on some supplemental.
00:14:47.000We should say, no, we have a budgeting process.
00:14:49.000We want to use whatever leverage we have as one-half of one-third of the government to get them to do what we know and they know would actually achieve the problem.
00:14:58.000I'll give you the last word on the Send Them Back Act or any other border matter.
00:15:02.000Well, I mean, again, I just underscore, you know, this is why your governors, you know, it matters who leads, right?
00:15:09.000And so kudos to Abbott for taking a stand for Texas.
00:15:12.000And keep in mind, you know, the Supreme Court ruling said the federal government can take down the wire, but Abbott can keep putting it up.
00:15:24.000Our states are more nimble and they can help lead the fight, but we need governors like Abbott or Lee or DeSantis or some of these other governors to say, look, enough is enough.
00:15:35.000We're going to send the National Guard.
00:15:36.000And meanwhile, you and I and others can put forward good pieces of legislation, like send them back, to start that dialogue and that conversation that this is our country.
00:15:45.000We get to pick who comes here and we get to choose who has to leave.
00:15:49.000And it seems as though you've selected the order and it's kind of last in first out, which not only I think is practically best, it's what's most fair.
00:16:22.000So, Mr. Richardson, as I understand the National Science Foundation, they take government money and then they dole it out in the form of grants to colleges and universities that then build censorship tools that big tech then relies on so that big tech has an arm's length away from the censorship that's shaping viewpoint.
00:16:43.000Essentially, what you're reporting concludes?
00:16:45.000Essentially, this TRAC-F program, which was through the Convergence Accelerator program, awarded these $750,000 grants to 12 initial projects, and then six of these continued on to have an additional $5 million in funding.
00:18:45.000In my quick review of the report, it appeared to me that a great deal of the evidence related to legitimate sponsorship of scientific and technological research...
00:18:58.000Okay, let me stop you there, Mr. Eisen, because here's the problem.
00:19:01.000While you indicate that the Torah and the Constitution are your sacred texts, if Americans indicate online that the Bible and the Constitution are sacred to them...
00:19:14.000The very grants That are being issued by the NSF would deem those people in a separate and diminished class.
00:19:29.000I would request that the committee release the testimony of Kate Starboard, the University of Washington scientist, the former WNBA player.
00:19:44.000If you're part of a military family, if you view the Bible and the Constitution is sacred, then you're going to be...
00:19:52.000And you know why they said you're uniquely susceptible to misinformation?
00:19:54.000Because if you think the Bible and the Constitution are sacred, you might not rely on the expert class, right?
00:20:01.000You might not rely on all the folks in D.C. and at all the think tanks.
00:20:05.000And that's really what people have to rely on.
00:20:07.000And so when we're taking government money to go and try to To harm people who have a particular religious view or a particular view on Constitution, I would think that in that type of a circumstance, we aren't crying wolf when there's none at the door.
00:20:23.000Mr. Gates, if we can talk about that material in context, if we can have the full context of the committee's investigation, The ranking member has said there are 29 depositions that this committee has taken.
00:20:36.000Okay, Mr. Isen, this isn't about any of those.
00:20:38.000This is about when MIT wanted the grant that Ms. Richardson was just talking about, right?
00:20:43.000They went and made a presentation to NSF, and they said, here's why you ought to pick MIT in order to do it.
00:20:49.000And it was to target military families, people in rural communities, people who believed in the Bible and the Constitution.
00:21:18.000That it's coming to life before our very eyes because you've got the government Funding these predictive analytics to go after Americans and here's what I think is actually true.
00:21:29.000It's not that military families and rural Americans and people who love the Bible and Constitution are dumber or uniquely susceptible to anything.
00:21:36.000It's just they don't think like how the expert class and the National Science Foundation wants them to think and so they're trying to program what they see so they could control what they behave and that is the true weaponization this committee will stand against.
00:21:56.000So we're back live, and the live chat very fired up on the exchange with Norm Eisen.
00:22:01.000And, you know, it is something when these folks come before our committee and then they try to have this grand performance when you just want them to answer the question as to whether or not they believe in grants that are used for that type of targeting, and then are they able to defend that.
00:22:21.000We'll continue to follow up on the use of AI for this particular censorship goal, and I think we need to legislate to stop it.
00:22:28.000We also want to bring you, of course, the latest updates from our friends at Quiver Quantitative on stock trading in the United States Congress.
00:22:36.000This one was one that caught my interest.
00:22:44.000Here's the tweet from Quiver Quantitative.
00:22:48.000Just spotted a couple new trades that will be worth keeping an eye on.
00:22:50.000Senator Thomas Carper just disclosed purchases of stock in Valero Energy and Equestrians Midstream.
00:22:59.000Carper sits on the Senate Subcommittee on Energy, Natural Resources, and Infrastructure.
00:23:03.000Isn't it something that the trading, in a lot of these cases, not all, but in a lot of these cases, seems to align with some sort of committee assignment?
00:23:11.000Either it's illegal or just an amazing coincidence.
00:24:22.000He's the CEO of Starward Capital, and he's talking about the major marketplace, the major asset class of office space and what it says about people returning to work and how folks who have retirement accounts, who have 401ks, could see an asset class collapse.
00:24:57.000But this is a uniquely U.S. problem, you say.
00:25:00.000We would have a problem in real estate, in every sector of real estate, not just office, because of the 500 basis point increase in rates that was vertical.
00:25:08.000The fact that one asset class never recovered, people never went back to work in the United States.
00:25:15.000In the office, the office market has an existential crisis right now.
00:25:19.000And so, you know, it's a $3 trillion asset class that's probably worth $1.8 trillion.
00:25:25.000There's $1.2 trillion of losses spread somewhere, and nobody knows exactly where it all is.
00:25:31.000And a signature bank was sold, and we bid on it.
00:25:36.000There were buildings in New York that were $100 million.
00:26:34.000And Debbie on X says that she basically lost her 401k under this administration.
00:26:39.000And this particular asset class, it's interesting because if you think about it futuristically, you're going to have a ton of these office complexes and office spaces go into economic distress categories.
00:26:53.000They're going to fall into various areas.
00:26:55.000Types of bankruptcy depending on whether or not they're spitting off any meaningful cash flow to be preserved and how they're organized.
00:27:02.000But a lot of them are like singly owned LLCs and then even the land underneath is a separate LLC. So you're going to have massive collapses in those and people are going to be able to go buy those distressed assets for pennies on the dollar.
00:27:15.000And they already have this built-in density, right?
00:27:22.000And what's happening right now is that rural America is resisting some of the urban sprawl.
00:27:29.000You're getting some protection of urban spaces.
00:27:31.000We're under some of the most massive challenges in terms of need for inventory and housing.
00:27:41.000People are paying enormous sums for housing and then you have this distressed asset class with a ton of inventory.
00:27:47.000So some smart developer is going to figure out how to go buy up these old office buildings where no one's coming back to work and they're going to turn them into these like, you know, food hall, living space, urban living areas and probably make a killing off of it.
00:28:02.000But we'll be here trying to save America and America's economy.
00:28:22.000We are here today to authoritatively express that President Trump did not commit an insurrection.
00:28:29.000And we believe Congress has a unique role in making that declaration.
00:28:33.000It's not the job of the states and especially not the job of some bureaucrats in Colorado to make this assessment and interfere with the rights of voters to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice.
00:28:44.000The very experts who often get on television and talk about securing democracy seem to be the first to want to then remove a candidate from the ballot Because they are afraid that he is too popular.
00:28:56.000We have 63 co-sponsors to the resolution that Ms. Stefanik and I will be filing today to Express the sense of Congress that President Trump did not commit an insurrection.
00:29:08.000I want to express my gratitude to Senator Vance for filing the companion legislation over in the Senate.
00:29:14.000And now is time for members of the House and Senate to show where they stand on this question.
00:29:20.000We and the former president welcome and expect many more co-sponsors in the coming days and look forward to a floor vote.
00:29:30.000He was thrilled at the amount of support from the House of Representatives for this legislation, expressing authoritatively that he did not participate in any sort of insurrection or rebellion.
00:29:42.000We know that to be the case, but I think that this is an opportunity for All lawmakers to sign on to this bill and to show where they stand.
00:29:52.00063 currently, and we expect that number to rise.
00:29:55.000Actually, it probably already has risen since we started the program because we had a number of calls coming in with members hearing from their constituents about how they wanted them on the Gates Resolution, and we welcome everyone to that cause.
00:30:08.000But I would say probably the best tongue-lashing delivered to the media Came from firebrand Eli Crane of Arizona.
00:30:16.000Eli definitely did not have decaf this morning.
00:30:33.000Because you guys are full of it and everybody knows it.
00:30:35.000There's a few honest journalists in this town, but there are very few and far between.
00:30:39.000You know how I know it wasn't an insurrection?
00:30:42.000Because he hasn't been charged with insurrection.
00:30:45.000And we can all see by the lawfare how he's facing up over 700 years in jail right now, how they've tried to destroy this man, destroy his businesses, that if they felt they had an inkling of a chance of convicting President Trump of jaywalking or insurrection, they would absolutely charge him.
00:31:04.000You know how else I know it's not an insurrection?
00:31:07.000Because this is the first insurrection in the history of the world where the people We're a part of it.
00:31:14.000It's pretty hard to do if you walk around and see how many individuals are carrying firearms.
00:31:20.000Last thing I want to say about how I know it's not an insurrection is because I actually listen to the words of the president.
00:31:26.000If you're trying to stoke an insurrection, you don't tell the people listening, hey, I want you to go over there peacefully and patriotically.
00:31:36.000What it is, is a party that's scared to death of this man because he's America first and he's shown time and time again he's willing to bust up the swamp and he continues to beat you like a drum.
00:32:37.000What's going on up here with January 6th is there's a pretty big cover-up actually going on up here in Capitol Hill about some of the involvement of our government.
00:32:48.000And I want to acknowledge Rep Massey's work on this lately and others who have been trying to get to the bottom of it.
00:32:55.000But here's some other questions for you journalists to ask.
00:33:00.000Why did it take so long for Ray Epps to be charged?
00:33:04.000Go watch videos of Ray Epps on that day and how he was stoking the entire thing and how long it took him to be charged.
00:33:12.000And yet there were so many people that were brought into the D.C. jail and they're still there to this day.
00:33:20.000So if you guys want to ask some questions, those are some questions.
00:33:23.000But the bottom line is we all know President Trump did not commit insurrection And he's probably going to be the president of the United States once again.
00:33:32.000And so I'm happy to be a part of this resolution.
00:33:44.000Congressman Eli Crane taking no prisoners there at our press conference as we released our intention to put our thumb on the scale as the United States Congress to declare that Donald Trump did not commit an insurrection.
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