Firebrand - Matt Gaetz - Episode 149 LIVE: Bordering On Chaos (feat. Rep. Andy Biggs) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

Andy Biggs and Matt Gaetz join me in the Rumble studio to discuss the failed attempt to impeach Elaine Chao Mayorkas, the Homeland Security Secretary. They also discuss the ongoing saga of the border patrol agent scandal, the border wall, and the immigration policies that have resulted in the deaths of thousands of border patrol agents and the removal of 1.2 million people who have been ordered to leave the United States because of their immigration enforcement policies. They also talk about the impeachment vote that failed to be taken on the House floor, and why it s time for the president to be impeached and why he should be removed from office. And they talk about why they think he s the worst cabinet secretary in the history of the country and why impeachment is the only way to go forward in this matter. You won t want to miss this! Subscribe to What's The Big Idea? on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date with the latest political news and discuss all things politics, entertainment, sports, and culture! - The Swamp Dweller Podcast. Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Produced by Dov Charney and the Crew at SPOTIFY. and produced by Denton McElroy and edited by Matthew Bolland and Mark Phillips. Please rate, review, and review this podcast and tag us in the comments section below to help us spread the word out there about what we cover what's going on in your thoughts and opinions on what we're watching and what we should be listening to. Thank you for listening and sharing it! and spreading the word about what you're listening to and what you think about it. - Thank you and supporting us on social media and what do you think we're listening about it? - Mention us on your thoughts on this podcast! Thank you, tweet us on Insta: if you think it's cool, rating, rating and reviewing it and posting it on Instapreneurship and what else we should do more of it helps us spread it out there - we'll be listening out there and spreading it out to the rest of it's a little bit more like that's cool and more of that and we'll get more of our thoughts on it :) & tweet us out there! & we'll spread the love!

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:01:59.000 Matt Gaetz, the biggest firebrand inside of the House of Representatives. the biggest firebrand inside of the House of Representatives.

00:02:18.000 You're not taking Matt Gaetz off the board, okay?

00:02:30.000 Because Matt Gaetz is an American patriot and Matt Gaetz is an American hero.

00:02:35.000 We will not continue to allow the Uniparty to run this town without a fight. 1.00

00:02:40.000 I want to thank you, Matt Gaetz, for holding the line.

00:02:44.000 Matt Gaetz is a courageous man.

00:02:47.000 If we had hundreds of Matt Gaetz in D.C., the country turns around.

00:02:51.000 It's that simple.

00:02:52.000 He's so tough, he's so strong, he's smart, and he loves this country.

00:02:57.000 Matt Gaetz.

00:02:58.000 Wow!

00:02:59.000 It is the honor of my life to fight alongside each and every one of you.

00:03:03.000 We will save America!

00:03:06.000 It's choose your fighter time!

00:03:07.000 I'm sending the firebrands. 1.00

00:03:09.000 Hey, it's Matt Gaetz.

00:03:18.000 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:03:19.000 We are here live in the Rumble studios.

00:03:22.000 I've got my colleague Andy Biggs going to join me.

00:03:25.000 We're going to break down some crazy stuff going on right now in South Africa.

00:03:29.000 First, we want to get to this big impeachment vote that we had.

00:03:33.000 The debate from Congressman Biggs was electric on the floor.

00:03:36.000 Take a listen.

00:03:39.000 You know, James Iredale One of the founders from North Carolina talking about this impeachment clause said, the power of impeachment is given by this constitution to bring great offenders to punishment.

00:03:50.000 It's calculated to bring them to punishment for crime which is not easy to describe, but which everyone must be convinced is a high crime misdemeanor against government.

00:03:58.000 For instance, corruption.

00:04:00.000 Let's sit here.

00:04:01.000 It's exercised.

00:04:03.000 The impeachment will arise from acts of great injury to the community, and the objects of it may be such as cannot be easily reached by an ordinary tribunal.

00:04:11.000 That's why you have impeachment.

00:04:12.000 And that's necessary here, because what you have is a secretary who came into judiciary.

00:04:21.000 He's given the language from the A secure, Safe and Secure Fence Act of 2006 and said, is the border under operational control?

00:04:33.000 He says, well, well, no, we've redefined it ourselves.

00:04:37.000 We're comfortable with the new definition that we've made.

00:04:40.000 That's a separation, violation of the separation of powers.

00:04:43.000 This is the same secretary who tells his ICE agents, you know what, you cannot...

00:04:48.000 The gentleman's time has expired.

00:04:49.000 Additional 30 seconds.

00:04:52.000 He tells his ICE agents, you cannot remove 1 million, 1.2 million people who have actually had due process through the courts and have active removal orders.

00:05:04.000 He's the same one who says we don't have to adhere to Title VIII. That has resulted in great injury to our communities.

00:05:14.000 And that is why he must be impeached.

00:05:18.000 Because he falls in the definitions that one of the founders, James Ardell, said.

00:05:23.000 And he's right on the money, and I urge everyone to support this movement to impeach.

00:05:30.000 He's the host of What's the Big's Idea?

00:05:33.000 Arizona's outstanding conservative congressman, and he joins us now.

00:05:37.000 Andy, after you offered that debate on the floor of the House, Republicans suffered the loss.

00:05:44.000 Mayorkas was not impeached.

00:05:46.000 Three of our colleagues, who we know quite well, Congressman Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin, Congressman Ken Buck of Colorado, and Congressman Tom McClintock of the border state of California, All did not believe that the threshold had been met for impeachment.

00:06:00.000 Andy Biggs was really the first congressman to come out and call Mayorkas what he was.

00:06:07.000 Someone who was highly competent, highly effective, and evil in the execution of these policies.

00:06:14.000 You have taken more members of Congress to the border than anyone else.

00:06:19.000 You've probably spent more time on the border than any other member of Congress.

00:06:23.000 Your reaction to the failed impeachment effort yesterday?

00:06:26.000 Well, first, thanks for having me, Matt.

00:06:29.000 And it's great to have you as a friend and a colleague.

00:06:32.000 My reaction is that I don't know that I expected it to go down.

00:06:38.000 I thought there was that possibility because I tried to work with some of those members who voted no to get them to come around and understand.

00:06:48.000 Because their issue is, what's the definition of high crime and misdemeanor?

00:06:52.000 They all say, oh, he's the worst cabinet secretary perhaps in the history of the country.

00:06:56.000 But when you cause the kind of damage that we have seen in this country, and I'm not just talking about the 100,000 people who have died of drug overdoses because of his policies.

00:07:10.000 I'm talking about a guy who puts out a memo Puts out a memo in 2021 on how he's gonna dismantle U.S. border security law.

00:07:21.000 That's where I say, well, you know, what do you think a high crime and misdemeanor is?

00:07:26.000 And you know, they tell me things like, well, we need to see the elements of a felony.

00:07:31.000 We've had the high crimes and misdemeanors in Anglo-American law since 1450. Not quite the Magna Carta, but we're in the neighborhood of the Magna Carta.

00:07:41.000 And I'll tell you what, This guy, Mayorkas, is a danger. 0.99

00:07:45.000 He's a danger to you, me, and everybody in this country.

00:07:48.000 The morning of the vote, Congressman Gallagher stood up before our House Republican team and said that he believed that if Mayorkas were impeached, there would be no limiting principle on impeachment.

00:08:00.000 That it would just be a result of every disagreement that occurred.

00:08:04.000 My sense is that a limiting principle is that when you are purposefully, flagrantly, and repeatedly violating the law with the outcome of great harm to the American people, and we can make that judgment, and it's a different judgment that somebody's just a knucklehead and it's a different judgment that somebody's just a knucklehead or a screwball. 0.62

00:08:23.000 The intentionality to do the harm and violate the law struck me as sufficiently limiting.

00:08:31.000 Do you sense that with any of these folks that, look, we serve with two of them on the Judiciary Committee, I serve with Gallagher on the Armed Services Committee, Are these three votes in cement?

00:08:42.000 Are they movable?

00:08:44.000 Is there conduct from Mayorkas that we think we can illuminate to showcase the degree of harm and high crimes and misdemeanors done? 1.00

00:08:53.000 I think that these three, I haven't talked to Mike, but I have talked to the other two and actually worked on the other two for a year and a half since I've been working on this a long time.

00:09:03.000 They are immovable in my opinion.

00:09:05.000 Okay, so that means that if impeachment is going to happen, it's not going to be an act of persuasion so much as an act of turnout.

00:09:13.000 Steve Scalise is recovering from cancer.

00:09:16.000 We pray for his speedy recovery.

00:09:18.000 But when he is able to make it back to the floor, do you expect that the impeachment will be called up again so that we can get it passed?

00:09:25.000 I've been told that that's the case.

00:09:27.000 Okay, so let me serve up this critique that's been made of Mike Johnson because I think it's an unfair critique and I want to deal with it.

00:09:35.000 They say, well, he should never have called this up for a vote if he wasn't certain it would pass.

00:09:41.000 We should have just not had the vote and we should have waited until we were assured or relatively assured victory.

00:09:48.000 I disagree with that assessment because I actually think there might have been three or four other no votes based on process or proclivity and that by having the vote we really flushed people out and forced them to go on the record and then you work from there.

00:10:03.000 Like the old system of Washington was the way to preserve like the legitimacy of your leadership.

00:10:09.000 Is to never call things for a vote that are likely to make you look bad.

00:10:14.000 But I think what makes us look bad is not having the votes.

00:10:16.000 So while other people are saying, oh, this is calamitous for Mike Johnson, I disagree.

00:10:21.000 I say, you know what?

00:10:22.000 We're going to win some, we're going to lose some.

00:10:24.000 Lately we've been losing a few of them on the budget and on FISA and a number of other things.

00:10:30.000 But do you fault Mike Johnson for holding the vote last night as he did?

00:10:36.000 No, I think more along the lines than you think.

00:10:39.000 For two reasons.

00:10:40.000 Number one, I think that when you get elected to Congress, you should come and vote so your constituents know what you're doing.

00:10:48.000 The Board of Truth is the Board of Truth.

00:10:50.000 That's that voting board that shows what you're doing.

00:10:53.000 The second thing is, and I told people this, you know, by my calculus, somebody was saying, well, what about Emmerer?

00:10:58.000 You know, he didn't count right.

00:10:59.000 I said, look, the Democrats, they had a guy who was out for surgery.

00:11:06.000 We judge typically an evening vote by who's voting in the afternoon.

00:11:10.000 He wasn't there.

00:11:11.000 We could have lost those three and won had he not shown up.

00:11:15.000 But some miraculous thing, he gets to surgery, he pops back in.

00:11:18.000 I don't blame our leadership.

00:11:20.000 And I do think that strategically it works out well for us because now you know Exactly what's going to happen when Steve Scalise comes in.

00:11:30.000 You could have had a circumstance where Scalise could have come back, and you could have had somebody else float away from the dock, but now those other votes are iced in.

00:11:37.000 So I actually think that taking the lost leader here might actually propel us up to victory on that impeachment.

00:11:45.000 Now, you and I know, and you really have taught me this, the border has a rhythm to it.

00:11:50.000 It has a flow to it.

00:11:51.000 It can pulse in certain areas.

00:11:53.000 It can diminish in others.

00:11:55.000 How states are reacting right like you and I went to the area where Mexico and Arizona and California all collide and we we got the the real tactical briefings about how that California jurisdiction becomes very appealing because there's no coordination with local law enforcement and you know Eagle Pass was really hot Abbott puts up those razor wire barriers turns out razor wire is a deterrent then we start to see Lukeville Arizona pop so with what you're seeing now with what you're hearing What

00:12:26.000 is next on the border with this impeachment having failed?

00:12:30.000 Mayorkas is out doing his celebratory victory lap at the Super Bowl.

00:12:35.000 Where are we going to see it pop?

00:12:36.000 So you're going to continue to see it pop in southern Arizona right now.

00:12:40.000 The reason is that in Texas, Eagle Pass was hot.

00:12:45.000 They brought Rio Grande and Valley under control.

00:12:49.000 You have Del Rio kind of slowed down as well.

00:12:52.000 It's forcing the cartels to move their product, which is human trafficking, further west.

00:12:59.000 You might see a little bit in El Paso because I think that they're kind of loose.

00:13:06.000 Their representation there really supports open borders.

00:13:10.000 I don't think it stays there, though.

00:13:11.000 I think it continues on.

00:13:13.000 I'll just tell you...

00:13:15.000 I've taken you down there.

00:13:16.000 You've been there to the Tohono O'odham Reservation.

00:13:18.000 Middle of nowhere, as you know.

00:13:20.000 And literally hundreds, groups of 700, 800 are being dropped off in the middle of nowhere.

00:13:26.000 So yeah, I think it's going to still be Lukeville.

00:13:28.000 I think it's going to be Tucson sector.

00:13:31.000 Would that be happening if you had a Republican governor that was willing to enforce the border?

00:13:35.000 Because, look, here's what I see.

00:13:36.000 I see Texas with a Republican governor saying enough is enough and actually creating a deterrent.

00:13:44.000 Is there a part of you that kind of knows when Texas flexes and does their job right now, man, that's going to push this thing more to Arizona?

00:13:51.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:13:52.000 We know that.

00:13:53.000 It's like that balloon.

00:13:55.000 You squeeze the balloon over here, it pops up over here.

00:13:57.000 But that's exactly what's going on.

00:13:59.000 Imagine if Arizona had a governor that was doing what...

00:14:03.000 That's what Abbott's doing.

00:14:04.000 Our problem, of course, is we've got probably about 80 linear miles of reservation land.

00:14:10.000 We can't put National Guard on.

00:14:12.000 It's illegal for us to put National Guard troops in there.

00:14:14.000 Yeah, so if everyone is watching and wondering, well, why isn't Arizona doing exactly the stuff that Texas is doing, those jurisdictional issues around those border Indian reservations, Why did we leave an Indian reservation on the border between the United States?

00:14:29.000 It strikes me as a bad place to have a jurisdictional no-man's land.

00:14:34.000 That's a relic from the 1800s.

00:14:38.000 I thought we won those wars.

00:14:40.000 We won the wars but surrendered our border.

00:14:42.000 And don't forget, you also have federal wildlife preserves on the border in Arizona.

00:14:49.000 You've got Oregon Pipe National Monument, which has got miles of stretch bordering as well.

00:14:55.000 So you've got this national forest over here in the Czechos.

00:14:59.000 So we don't have the Goldwater Range.

00:15:02.000 Goldwater Range.

00:15:03.000 You've got private land in Texas.

00:15:05.000 So Texas is able to go in to private landowners and say, let us use this.

00:15:10.000 Arizona, not so much.

00:15:11.000 Even your big ranchers down there, they might own 14,000 acres, but they also might be leasing another 20,000 acres that is federally owned on the border.

00:15:23.000 The Senate put together what they called a border bill, but you and I would characterize as Really a way to ice in a lot of the Mayorkas priorities and goals. 0.99

00:15:34.000 Mike Lee, a terrific senator, someone who I know we seek guidance from and mentorship from frequently, he put out a list of really eight critiques of that legislation that even Mitch McConnell is now subsequently killed.

00:15:47.000 And I want to run through these because even though that bill is like temporarily dead, you're going to see elements of what McConnell and Langford tried and Biden tried to do reemerge.

00:15:57.000 So Mike Lee says first, That this legislation sends $5.6 billion that is dressed up as humanitarian aid but could be highly influenced by Hamas and Gaza.

00:16:09.000 So borrowing money from China to send money to Hamas seems like something we wouldn't want to do with $5 billion.

00:16:16.000 He critiques the fact that this prioritizes Ukraine over our border.

00:16:22.000 He talks about the amount of money that is spent paying the salaries of Ukrainian officials.

00:16:27.000 This from Mike Lee's letter.

00:16:29.000 Recent reports state that the CIA had to warn Zelensky face to face that Washington was aware of his personal corruption and unwillingness to dismiss any of the dozens of Ukrainian officials known to be deeply involved in diverting defense funds for personal accounts.

00:16:48.000 So let's pause there.

00:16:50.000 Like, have you seen anything In the oversight and monitoring of this stuff going to Ukraine that even gives you confidence that it's getting into some righteous fight.

00:17:02.000 No.

00:17:03.000 I sit on an oversight committee.

00:17:04.000 We do get some reports.

00:17:06.000 I'm not convinced that Ukraine, which was considered to be one of the most corrupt nations on the earth pre-Russian war, has cleaned up its act during the Russian war.

00:17:18.000 In fact, you'll find U.S. materiel in weird places like Central Africa, where there might be a coup, a revolution going on.

00:17:28.000 You'll find Dollars, people ferrying out U.S. dollars to buy themselves mansions.

00:17:35.000 They're putting in new swimming pools.

00:17:37.000 They're building mansions in places of Ukraine that aren't under attack.

00:17:40.000 And those are open source reporting, too.

00:17:43.000 That's not coming from classified sources.

00:17:46.000 That's open source reporting.

00:17:48.000 So no, I think it's a real disaster for U.S. dollars.

00:17:52.000 Lee continues that this lays the groundwork for more forever wars with kind of funding at first and asking questions later.

00:18:00.000 He talks about the failure to address the homeland security threats that arise out of what we're seeing on the terrorist watch list.

00:18:07.000 What can you share about What the terrorist watch list tells us about the type of people coming over the border.

00:18:14.000 So on this watch list that you have, we've had over 300 during the Biden administration, and normally you would see maybe five or six over a two-, three-year period.

00:18:27.000 So that gives you the magnitude.

00:18:30.000 These are people that have been placed on that watch list by perhaps European spy organizations, US spy organizations, any other, you know, whatever they call the eyes, the private eyes groups, you know, that look...

00:18:46.000 And they will put them on that list.

00:18:48.000 Some of these people don't even realize they're on that list when they come in.

00:18:51.000 And the reason that we catch these people, most of these people don't even realize they're on the list.

00:18:57.000 They're not even the worst of the worst.

00:18:59.000 The worst of the worst are coming in between the ports of entry that we don't even know that they're coming in.

00:19:04.000 So imagine that you're coming in and you don't know that you're going to get picked up for being a terrorist.

00:19:12.000 You and I have spent time with these angel parents who have lost loved ones as a consequence of illegal immigration.

00:19:19.000 So people are dying in America now as a result of this.

00:19:23.000 They're dying from fentanyl.

00:19:24.000 They're dying from other harms that illegal aliens are causing. 0.99

00:19:29.000 But it's almost hard for me to imagine that we're not within a five-year window of some sort of mass casualty event caused by someone who came across the border illegally. 0.99

00:19:41.000 The briefings I've had that are not classified They all agree it's not if, it's when.

00:19:50.000 Because there's cells of terrorists all over.

00:19:53.000 Don't forget Hamas is strong in... 0.53

00:19:56.000 Hezbollah is strong in Venezuela.

00:19:59.000 Oh, sure.

00:20:00.000 There's a huge Lebanese diaspora in South America.

00:20:04.000 I've always wondered why our foreign policy elites always care more about what's happening oceans away than here in our sphere of influence.

00:20:13.000 The whole Monroe Doctrine has been...

00:20:19.000 Dissolved.

00:20:20.000 And why?

00:20:21.000 That should be something that we take great national pride in.

00:20:25.000 I certainly don't take pride in the fact that the legislation McConnell was backing would send $60 billion to Ukraine.

00:20:30.000 And just for context, the entire United States Marine Corps is $53.8 billion.

00:20:37.000 So they want to send more money to Ukraine than funds the entire United States Marine Corps.

00:20:43.000 Moreover, this creates a gift of $300 million to the National Police of Ukraine.

00:20:49.000 So while the Democrats are trying to defund police in the United States, we are funding police in Ukraine.

00:20:56.000 Your reaction, Andy?

00:20:57.000 That's absolutely crazy. 0.99

00:20:59.000 It's ludicrous.

00:21:00.000 But don't forget, we're also funding the Ukraine government's A retirement system, right?

00:21:07.000 I mean, think about that.

00:21:09.000 And we're borrowing this from our children and grandchildren.

00:21:14.000 It's not money that we have in the bank because they don't want to do a pay-for for this.

00:21:19.000 They just want to Add it to the tab.

00:21:21.000 So McConnell fails because he's got this terrible border bill we've gone over, lashed to this listless flow of money into Europe and beyond.

00:21:31.000 But now I think they're regrouping.

00:21:34.000 I think what you're going to see the Senate do is pull off the bad border stuff.

00:21:39.000 And send us a bill that does the 60 billion for Ukraine, maybe another 17 billion for Israel, billions for Taiwan, restoring American stockpiles, and do all of it as deficit spending.

00:21:53.000 I think they want to send that to the House of Representatives.

00:21:56.000 And they know that there are a lot of sympathies for Israel in the House, sympathies that you and I share.

00:22:01.000 I think we would like to make sure that the Iron Dome doesn't run out as Israel is defending itself against perpetual onslaught.

00:22:09.000 But the notion of doing that while deficit spending seems to abandon a lot of the principles that you and I have been trying to instill into the Republican House.

00:22:19.000 Your reaction to that McConnell strategy?

00:22:22.000 Yeah, just a couple quick things.

00:22:24.000 Number one, I've introduced legislation, reintroduced legislation to actually provide a pay-for for Israel on a separate bill.

00:22:33.000 Number two, You, by giving money to Hamas, even if it's humanitarian, we should have learned this by giving $6 billion to Iran, right? 0.57

00:22:44.000 They said it was going to be humanitarian.

00:22:47.000 Money is fungible.

00:22:48.000 They're going to turn around and use it, so you'll be funding both sides of the war.

00:22:52.000 Jeez. 0.99

00:22:52.000 Which is absolutely asinine. 0.99

00:22:55.000 Well, unless you own defense stocks, right? 0.94

00:22:57.000 Unless you own defense stocks.

00:22:58.000 Which, actually, a number of our members of Congress do.

00:23:00.000 Isn't that something?

00:23:01.000 Make a little money that way, I guess.

00:23:05.000 I talked to the speaker today and I told him, look, I know he wants to do this Israel thing.

00:23:10.000 I know he wants to liberate this Israel stuff from the Ukraine stuff and the Taiwan stuff. 1.00

00:23:15.000 And you and I believe in the principle of single subject legislation.

00:23:18.000 So that tracks well.

00:23:21.000 But I don't know how you can not have any offset, any pay for.

00:23:26.000 And so I said to the speaker, look, at a minimum, Can we take the money out of the UN entities that were literally in concert with those attacking Israel?

00:23:38.000 Can we at least take that out of the Israel aid?

00:23:41.000 And he wanted to take that under advisement.

00:23:44.000 But do you think that we would lose a single Republican vote for Israel aid if we also defunded part of the UN in that strategy?

00:23:53.000 No.

00:23:55.000 Not one?

00:23:55.000 Not one.

00:23:56.000 I can't think of one.

00:23:57.000 All right, Mr. Speaker, you heard it, man.

00:23:59.000 You always think me and Biggs are on the no row, but we're real eager to see you take a bite out of the UN as part of the Israel bill. 0.61

00:24:05.000 And I don't think that will lend to the critique that Speaker Johnson is playing politics with Israel funding.

00:24:12.000 I think the people playing politics with our money are at the UN, and the politics they're playing is vicious and deadly and directed at Israel.

00:24:20.000 No, 100% right.

00:24:22.000 So you need to defund UNRWA. But as long as you're defunding, take the money from their Office of Migration, which is actively recruiting people who want to illegally migrate to Europe.

00:24:34.000 And they're saying, no, it's actually easier to get into America right now.

00:24:37.000 If we can't cut funding for the entities that are literally paying for the invasion of our country and the slaughter of Israelis, We will never be able to cut anything, right? 0.99

00:24:51.000 I mean, isn't that...

00:24:51.000 This is the easiest money to cut in the federal budget.

00:24:54.000 You would think.

00:24:56.000 You would think.

00:24:56.000 All right.

00:24:57.000 I got to get to another subject before I let you go.

00:24:59.000 FISA. I've talked on the program a great deal about these spying authorities that were weaponized against President Trump that are violated 38 times every hour, according to the Inspector General.

00:25:10.000 We've got some of our Republican colleagues that are on the House Intelligence Committee who are very critical of the legislation you have Yeah.

00:25:24.000 I think in a real mistake, we put an extension of those spying authorities onto our national defense legislation.

00:25:31.000 That is coming up in next month, I believe.

00:25:35.000 Yeah.

00:25:36.000 And so you have been appointed as one of the key people on the Judiciary Committee negotiating with the Intelligence Committee about what the guardrails ought to be on these spying authorities.

00:25:46.000 How do you describe how that's going?

00:25:48.000 Well, so I misspoke.

00:25:50.000 It's April 19th that it comes through.

00:25:53.000 I'm concerned because if we don't get something done soon, you might see something on a CR. But the guardrails we're trying to put down is just real simple.

00:26:02.000 If you want to surveil and have access to a U.S. person's Telecommunications data.

00:26:08.000 You need to be able to state a reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause.

00:26:15.000 In other words, get a warrant before you look at my private data.

00:26:19.000 I mean, that's kind of like what the Fourth Amendment's all about.

00:26:24.000 Yeah, you would think and it's not just that our Republican colleagues on the Intelligence Committee oppose the warrant requirement that we are for.

00:26:32.000 They actually want to expand spying authorities to include like public Wi-Fi.

00:26:37.000 So if you're at a McDonald's Having a cheeseburger and get onto the Wi-Fi, all of a sudden, the constitutional protections that you'd be entitled to are diminished just by virtue of being on public Wi-Fi.

00:26:50.000 Does that concern you?

00:26:51.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:26:54.000 By the way, that popped up after seven months of negotiation.

00:26:57.000 It just popped up in the intel bill that we never even talked about.

00:27:03.000 I've told them in no uncertain terms that that provision cannot be in any base bill that we agree to.

00:27:10.000 And we'll see how it goes, because I do believe the speaker wants to get something done sooner rather than later, and I think he wants a base bill that, but that, I'm afraid that the base bill, the things that we agree to, but the intel refuses to budge.

00:27:24.000 I can't think of any situation where they would support a warrant.

00:27:28.000 Well, we then have to...

00:27:30.000 Look, people don't want to hear this, but then we have to work with Democrats.

00:27:33.000 If Republicans won't stand up for civil liberties and the Fourth Amendment and a warrant requirement, I have no problem working with liberal Democrats who hate my guts to try to get those things accomplished.

00:27:46.000 I mean, do you have any reticence to that?

00:27:47.000 None at all.

00:27:48.000 In fact, my bill was a bipartisan bill, bicameral bill.

00:27:52.000 One of my lead...

00:27:55.000 Co-sponsors was Jerry Nadler, for Pete's sakes.

00:27:59.000 A Biggs Nadler bill.

00:28:00.000 Hard to believe.

00:28:02.000 Probably a one-of-a-kinder.

00:28:04.000 I don't know if we're going to have too many of those.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, that was a unicorn, my friend.

00:28:09.000 All right.

00:28:09.000 Well, Andy Biggs truly is the smartest guy in Congress when it comes to The border and border policies.

00:28:14.000 He's also one of the great litigators we have.

00:28:17.000 If his prediction is correct that upon the return of Majority Leader Steve Scalise will be passing an impeachment, then you will be seeing Andy Biggs as one of our impeachment managers over in the Senate putting Mayorkas on trial.

00:28:28.000 And I really think that's going to ignite the American people of all states, Of all political persuasions to demand accountability and to demand a closed border.

00:28:38.000 Now we want to focus on something going on in South Africa that I think is going to really surprise you.

00:28:45.000 The chairman of the ascendant economic freedom fighters political party in South Africa is a guy named Julius Malena.

00:28:54.000 He's got some pretty genocidal thoughts about white people.

00:28:58.000 Take a listen. 0.97

00:28:59.000 We'll discuss on the other side.

00:29:02.000 We must never be scared to kill.

00:29:06.000 A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing because the killing is part of a revolutionary act.

00:29:17.000 I don't know what's going to happen in the future.

00:29:20.000 I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now.

00:29:26.000 I can't guarantee the future.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, but I mean, you'd understand somebody watching that, especially as it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out.

00:29:33.000 It sounds like a genocidal call.

00:29:35.000 Cry babies. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Cry babies. 1.00

00:29:37.000 I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now. 0.99

00:29:41.000 I can't give you a guarantee of the future. 0.66

00:29:43.000 Especially when things are going the way they are.

00:29:45.000 Subtext.

00:29:46.000 Especially if things are going the way they are, there will be a revolution in this country, I can tell you now.

00:29:54.000 We're back live in the Rumble studios for the first time here in Washington, D.C. Quite the setup.

00:29:59.000 That was the chairman of the Economic Freedom Fighters Party, Julius Malena, perhaps the next president of South Africa.

00:30:07.000 There's an election that'll be later in 2024. Joining me now to discuss this is my Legislative Counsel in our office here in Washington, D.C., John Wilson.

00:30:17.000 John has studied these things a good bit and gives us advice on matters of foreign and domestic policy.

00:30:23.000 So, John, what is going on in South Africa?

00:30:25.000 First of all, thanks for having me.

00:30:27.000 It's great to be on.

00:30:28.000 Love the show. 0.95

00:30:29.000 South Africa is an absolute mess. 0.94

00:30:32.000 I mean, their economy is in the gutter. 0.99

00:30:34.000 Crime is rampant. 0.75

00:30:35.000 It's the rape capital of the world. 1.00

00:30:37.000 And the solution for the economic freedom fighters and Julius Malema is to Genocide white farmers. 0.97

00:30:44.000 You know, get rid of the farmers that are providing food for you, which we know how that went in Zimbabwe, Rhodesia.

00:30:49.000 It ends with hyperinflation, economic collapse, and worse.

00:30:53.000 And when you look at the situation, you really got to realize what type of guy Julius Malema is.

00:30:59.000 This is a person who was head of the African National Congress Youth Federation and ended up leaving because he was too radical.

00:31:06.000 That's like leaving the Democratic Socialists of America because you think they're a little pink up. 0.87

00:31:11.000 I mean, this is a very dangerous guy, and if he ends up gaining seats in this next election, you know, South Africa, everybody over there is in trouble.

00:31:19.000 I'm not an expert on South African politics, but these rallies he's hosting are enormous and there seems to be some enthusiasm there.

00:31:27.000 Is it a likelihood you think that they could gain more seats sufficient to have him, you know, as part of a coalition government or God forbid, even the leader of the country?

00:31:36.000 It's hard to say if they can overtake the ANC, but I expect they will gain a lot of seats.

00:31:42.000 I mean, it's an attractive ideology to a lot of people.

00:31:44.000 I mean, it's just blunt force Marxism.

00:31:47.000 I mean, all Marxism really is anyway, as we know, is hate what is beautiful, hate what is good, and hate those that are better off than you.

00:31:54.000 I wonder how the globalist entities are going to respond to this, John, because they...

00:31:59.000 The critiques of South Africa, the movement of South Africa to become more of a continental hegemon, you know, the global communities reacted to that in different ways.

00:32:10.000 Like, is there going to be some renunciation of this?

00:32:14.000 Or is this critical race theory to the global scale?

00:32:18.000 Is this what global CRT looks like? 0.99

00:32:21.000 That if people are white and you feel aggrieved by them, you're justified in killing them? 0.97

00:32:27.000 Yeah, I wouldn't get my hopes up for any sort of globalist condemnation of what's going on with Malema in South Africa. 0.97

00:32:33.000 I mean, already he has the backing of a lot of globalist NGOs and institutions.

00:32:37.000 Just the other day, after one of his speeches where he called for the, you know, kill the boar, the ADL puts up a defense of him on their website and says that it's not a call for white genocide, that's conspiracy theory, you know, it's just decolonization.

00:32:52.000 Contrast with how the ADL views, you know, from the river to the sea, and you can tell these guys aren't acting in good faith.

00:32:57.000 And then you look at what recently has happened in Israel on October 7th.

00:33:01.000 We know exactly what they mean by decolonize, and we need to take them at their word.

00:33:05.000 They mean murder and displace, and that's what they're trying to do to the Boers and the farmers in South Africa, and I don't foresee any globalist institution condemning that. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Do you think it will result in white flight like you saw in Rhodesia? 0.54

00:33:19.000 I think it absolutely will.

00:33:20.000 It's already doing that.

00:33:21.000 I mean, the funny thing is Robert Mugabe, some years after the fact, begged the farmers to come back.

00:33:27.000 He said, please, come back, grow our crops.

00:33:31.000 Things went to hell in a handbasket over there, and that's possibly what could happen in South Africa if you were to gain power.

00:33:36.000 And it would be a great opportunity for the United States as well.

00:33:39.000 You know, you got a couple million Boer farmers over there.

00:33:43.000 You bring them here, you know, you drop them off in swing states, they will produce, they will reproduce, you know, they vote red. 0.85

00:33:49.000 And I mean, I can't imagine anything that's going to get the Democrats to the table in immigration faster than bringing a bunch of poor white South African farmers to the United States. 1.00

00:33:57.000 We found an asylum class that John Wilson supports, the South African farmers.

00:34:03.000 Well, thanks for that update and I want to make sure that people continue to stay informed on that.

00:34:07.000 Before we get out of here, we want to thank the good folks at Rumble for allowing us to come and take over their studios here for our live program and we'll probably be back in the coming weeks with updates about what's going on with the big border fight, the government funding fight, and hopefully Some upcoming accountability for the corrupt folks in the Biden administration and the Biden family.

00:34:27.000 Thank you for joining us.

Firebrand - Matt Gaetz - February 07, 2024

Episode 149 LIVE: Bordering On Chaos (feat. Rep. Andy Biggs) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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