Andy Biggs and Matt Gaetz join me in the Rumble studio to discuss the failed attempt to impeach Elaine Chao Mayorkas, the Homeland Security Secretary. They also discuss the ongoing saga of the border patrol agent scandal, the border wall, and the immigration policies that have resulted in the deaths of thousands of border patrol agents and the removal of 1.2 million people who have been ordered to leave the United States because of their immigration enforcement policies. They also talk about the impeachment vote that failed to be taken on the House floor, and why it s time for the president to be impeached and why he should be removed from office. And they talk about why they think he s the worst cabinet secretary in the history of the country and why impeachment is the only way to go forward in this matter. You won t want to miss this! Subscribe to What's The Big Idea? on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date with the latest political news and discuss all things politics, entertainment, sports, and culture! - The Swamp Dweller Podcast. Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Produced by Dov Charney and the Crew at SPOTIFY. and produced by Denton McElroy and edited by Matthew Bolland and Mark Phillips. Please rate, review, and review this podcast and tag us in the comments section below to help us spread the word out there about what we cover what's going on in your thoughts and opinions on what we're watching and what we should be listening to. Thank you for listening and sharing it! and spreading the word about what you're listening to and what you think about it. - Thank you and supporting us on social media and what do you think we're listening about it? - Mention us on your thoughts on this podcast! Thank you, tweet us on Insta: if you think it's cool, rating, rating and reviewing it and posting it on Instapreneurship and what else we should do more of it helps us spread it out there - we'll be listening out there and spreading it out to the rest of it's a little bit more like that's cool and more of that and we'll get more of our thoughts on it :) & tweet us out there! & we'll spread the love!
00:03:39.000You know, James Iredale One of the founders from North Carolina talking about this impeachment clause said, the power of impeachment is given by this constitution to bring great offenders to punishment.
00:03:50.000It's calculated to bring them to punishment for crime which is not easy to describe, but which everyone must be convinced is a high crime misdemeanor against government.
00:04:03.000The impeachment will arise from acts of great injury to the community, and the objects of it may be such as cannot be easily reached by an ordinary tribunal.
00:04:52.000He tells his ICE agents, you cannot remove 1 million, 1.2 million people who have actually had due process through the courts and have active removal orders.
00:05:04.000He's the same one who says we don't have to adhere to Title VIII. That has resulted in great injury to our communities.
00:05:46.000Three of our colleagues, who we know quite well, Congressman Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin, Congressman Ken Buck of Colorado, and Congressman Tom McClintock of the border state of California, All did not believe that the threshold had been met for impeachment.
00:06:00.000Andy Biggs was really the first congressman to come out and call Mayorkas what he was.
00:06:07.000Someone who was highly competent, highly effective, and evil in the execution of these policies.
00:06:14.000You have taken more members of Congress to the border than anyone else.
00:06:19.000You've probably spent more time on the border than any other member of Congress.
00:06:23.000Your reaction to the failed impeachment effort yesterday?
00:06:26.000Well, first, thanks for having me, Matt.
00:06:29.000And it's great to have you as a friend and a colleague.
00:06:32.000My reaction is that I don't know that I expected it to go down.
00:06:38.000I thought there was that possibility because I tried to work with some of those members who voted no to get them to come around and understand.
00:06:48.000Because their issue is, what's the definition of high crime and misdemeanor?
00:06:52.000They all say, oh, he's the worst cabinet secretary perhaps in the history of the country.
00:06:56.000But when you cause the kind of damage that we have seen in this country, and I'm not just talking about the 100,000 people who have died of drug overdoses because of his policies.
00:07:10.000I'm talking about a guy who puts out a memo Puts out a memo in 2021 on how he's gonna dismantle U.S. border security law.
00:07:21.000That's where I say, well, you know, what do you think a high crime and misdemeanor is?
00:07:26.000And you know, they tell me things like, well, we need to see the elements of a felony.
00:07:31.000We've had the high crimes and misdemeanors in Anglo-American law since 1450. Not quite the Magna Carta, but we're in the neighborhood of the Magna Carta.
00:07:41.000And I'll tell you what, This guy, Mayorkas, is a danger.
00:07:45.000He's a danger to you, me, and everybody in this country.
00:07:48.000The morning of the vote, Congressman Gallagher stood up before our House Republican team and said that he believed that if Mayorkas were impeached, there would be no limiting principle on impeachment.
00:08:00.000That it would just be a result of every disagreement that occurred.
00:08:04.000My sense is that a limiting principle is that when you are purposefully, flagrantly, and repeatedly violating the law with the outcome of great harm to the American people, and we can make that judgment, and it's a different judgment that somebody's just a knucklehead and it's a different judgment that somebody's just a knucklehead or a screwball.
00:08:23.000The intentionality to do the harm and violate the law struck me as sufficiently limiting.
00:08:31.000Do you sense that with any of these folks that, look, we serve with two of them on the Judiciary Committee, I serve with Gallagher on the Armed Services Committee, Are these three votes in cement?
00:08:44.000Is there conduct from Mayorkas that we think we can illuminate to showcase the degree of harm and high crimes and misdemeanors done?
00:08:53.000I think that these three, I haven't talked to Mike, but I have talked to the other two and actually worked on the other two for a year and a half since I've been working on this a long time.
00:09:27.000Okay, so let me serve up this critique that's been made of Mike Johnson because I think it's an unfair critique and I want to deal with it.
00:09:35.000They say, well, he should never have called this up for a vote if he wasn't certain it would pass.
00:09:41.000We should have just not had the vote and we should have waited until we were assured or relatively assured victory.
00:09:48.000I disagree with that assessment because I actually think there might have been three or four other no votes based on process or proclivity and that by having the vote we really flushed people out and forced them to go on the record and then you work from there.
00:10:03.000Like the old system of Washington was the way to preserve like the legitimacy of your leadership.
00:10:09.000Is to never call things for a vote that are likely to make you look bad.
00:10:14.000But I think what makes us look bad is not having the votes.
00:10:16.000So while other people are saying, oh, this is calamitous for Mike Johnson, I disagree.
00:11:20.000And I do think that strategically it works out well for us because now you know Exactly what's going to happen when Steve Scalise comes in.
00:11:30.000You could have had a circumstance where Scalise could have come back, and you could have had somebody else float away from the dock, but now those other votes are iced in.
00:11:37.000So I actually think that taking the lost leader here might actually propel us up to victory on that impeachment.
00:11:45.000Now, you and I know, and you really have taught me this, the border has a rhythm to it.
00:11:55.000How states are reacting right like you and I went to the area where Mexico and Arizona and California all collide and we we got the the real tactical briefings about how that California jurisdiction becomes very appealing because there's no coordination with local law enforcement and you know Eagle Pass was really hot Abbott puts up those razor wire barriers turns out razor wire is a deterrent then we start to see Lukeville Arizona pop so with what you're seeing now with what you're hearing What
00:12:26.000is next on the border with this impeachment having failed?
00:12:30.000Mayorkas is out doing his celebratory victory lap at the Super Bowl.
00:13:36.000I see Texas with a Republican governor saying enough is enough and actually creating a deterrent.
00:13:44.000Is there a part of you that kind of knows when Texas flexes and does their job right now, man, that's going to push this thing more to Arizona?
00:14:12.000It's illegal for us to put National Guard troops in there.
00:14:14.000Yeah, so if everyone is watching and wondering, well, why isn't Arizona doing exactly the stuff that Texas is doing, those jurisdictional issues around those border Indian reservations, Why did we leave an Indian reservation on the border between the United States?
00:14:29.000It strikes me as a bad place to have a jurisdictional no-man's land.
00:15:11.000Even your big ranchers down there, they might own 14,000 acres, but they also might be leasing another 20,000 acres that is federally owned on the border.
00:15:23.000The Senate put together what they called a border bill, but you and I would characterize as Really a way to ice in a lot of the Mayorkas priorities and goals.
00:15:34.000Mike Lee, a terrific senator, someone who I know we seek guidance from and mentorship from frequently, he put out a list of really eight critiques of that legislation that even Mitch McConnell is now subsequently killed.
00:15:47.000And I want to run through these because even though that bill is like temporarily dead, you're going to see elements of what McConnell and Langford tried and Biden tried to do reemerge.
00:15:57.000So Mike Lee says first, That this legislation sends $5.6 billion that is dressed up as humanitarian aid but could be highly influenced by Hamas and Gaza.
00:16:09.000So borrowing money from China to send money to Hamas seems like something we wouldn't want to do with $5 billion.
00:16:16.000He critiques the fact that this prioritizes Ukraine over our border.
00:16:22.000He talks about the amount of money that is spent paying the salaries of Ukrainian officials.
00:16:29.000Recent reports state that the CIA had to warn Zelensky face to face that Washington was aware of his personal corruption and unwillingness to dismiss any of the dozens of Ukrainian officials known to be deeply involved in diverting defense funds for personal accounts.
00:16:50.000Like, have you seen anything In the oversight and monitoring of this stuff going to Ukraine that even gives you confidence that it's getting into some righteous fight.
00:17:06.000I'm not convinced that Ukraine, which was considered to be one of the most corrupt nations on the earth pre-Russian war, has cleaned up its act during the Russian war.
00:17:18.000In fact, you'll find U.S. materiel in weird places like Central Africa, where there might be a coup, a revolution going on.
00:17:28.000You'll find Dollars, people ferrying out U.S. dollars to buy themselves mansions.
00:17:35.000They're putting in new swimming pools.
00:17:37.000They're building mansions in places of Ukraine that aren't under attack.
00:17:40.000And those are open source reporting, too.
00:17:43.000That's not coming from classified sources.
00:17:48.000So no, I think it's a real disaster for U.S. dollars.
00:17:52.000Lee continues that this lays the groundwork for more forever wars with kind of funding at first and asking questions later.
00:18:00.000He talks about the failure to address the homeland security threats that arise out of what we're seeing on the terrorist watch list.
00:18:07.000What can you share about What the terrorist watch list tells us about the type of people coming over the border.
00:18:14.000So on this watch list that you have, we've had over 300 during the Biden administration, and normally you would see maybe five or six over a two-, three-year period.
00:18:30.000These are people that have been placed on that watch list by perhaps European spy organizations, US spy organizations, any other, you know, whatever they call the eyes, the private eyes groups, you know, that look...
00:19:24.000They're dying from other harms that illegal aliens are causing.
00:19:29.000But it's almost hard for me to imagine that we're not within a five-year window of some sort of mass casualty event caused by someone who came across the border illegally.
00:19:41.000The briefings I've had that are not classified They all agree it's not if, it's when.
00:19:50.000Because there's cells of terrorists all over.
00:20:00.000There's a huge Lebanese diaspora in South America.
00:20:04.000I've always wondered why our foreign policy elites always care more about what's happening oceans away than here in our sphere of influence.
00:21:21.000So McConnell fails because he's got this terrible border bill we've gone over, lashed to this listless flow of money into Europe and beyond.
00:21:34.000I think what you're going to see the Senate do is pull off the bad border stuff.
00:21:39.000And send us a bill that does the 60 billion for Ukraine, maybe another 17 billion for Israel, billions for Taiwan, restoring American stockpiles, and do all of it as deficit spending.
00:21:53.000I think they want to send that to the House of Representatives.
00:21:56.000And they know that there are a lot of sympathies for Israel in the House, sympathies that you and I share.
00:22:01.000I think we would like to make sure that the Iron Dome doesn't run out as Israel is defending itself against perpetual onslaught.
00:22:09.000But the notion of doing that while deficit spending seems to abandon a lot of the principles that you and I have been trying to instill into the Republican House.
00:22:19.000Your reaction to that McConnell strategy?
00:23:21.000But I don't know how you can not have any offset, any pay for.
00:23:26.000And so I said to the speaker, look, at a minimum, Can we take the money out of the UN entities that were literally in concert with those attacking Israel?
00:23:38.000Can we at least take that out of the Israel aid?
00:23:41.000And he wanted to take that under advisement.
00:23:44.000But do you think that we would lose a single Republican vote for Israel aid if we also defunded part of the UN in that strategy?
00:23:57.000All right, Mr. Speaker, you heard it, man.
00:23:59.000You always think me and Biggs are on the no row, but we're real eager to see you take a bite out of the UN as part of the Israel bill.
00:24:05.000And I don't think that will lend to the critique that Speaker Johnson is playing politics with Israel funding.
00:24:12.000I think the people playing politics with our money are at the UN, and the politics they're playing is vicious and deadly and directed at Israel.
00:24:22.000So you need to defund UNRWA. But as long as you're defunding, take the money from their Office of Migration, which is actively recruiting people who want to illegally migrate to Europe.
00:24:34.000And they're saying, no, it's actually easier to get into America right now.
00:24:37.000If we can't cut funding for the entities that are literally paying for the invasion of our country and the slaughter of Israelis, We will never be able to cut anything, right?
00:24:57.000I got to get to another subject before I let you go.
00:24:59.000FISA. I've talked on the program a great deal about these spying authorities that were weaponized against President Trump that are violated 38 times every hour, according to the Inspector General.
00:25:10.000We've got some of our Republican colleagues that are on the House Intelligence Committee who are very critical of the legislation you have Yeah.
00:25:24.000I think in a real mistake, we put an extension of those spying authorities onto our national defense legislation.
00:25:31.000That is coming up in next month, I believe.
00:25:36.000And so you have been appointed as one of the key people on the Judiciary Committee negotiating with the Intelligence Committee about what the guardrails ought to be on these spying authorities.
00:25:50.000It's April 19th that it comes through.
00:25:53.000I'm concerned because if we don't get something done soon, you might see something on a CR. But the guardrails we're trying to put down is just real simple.
00:26:02.000If you want to surveil and have access to a U.S. person's Telecommunications data.
00:26:08.000You need to be able to state a reasonable articulable suspicion or probable cause.
00:26:15.000In other words, get a warrant before you look at my private data.
00:26:19.000I mean, that's kind of like what the Fourth Amendment's all about.
00:26:24.000Yeah, you would think and it's not just that our Republican colleagues on the Intelligence Committee oppose the warrant requirement that we are for.
00:26:32.000They actually want to expand spying authorities to include like public Wi-Fi.
00:26:37.000So if you're at a McDonald's Having a cheeseburger and get onto the Wi-Fi, all of a sudden, the constitutional protections that you'd be entitled to are diminished just by virtue of being on public Wi-Fi.
00:26:54.000By the way, that popped up after seven months of negotiation.
00:26:57.000It just popped up in the intel bill that we never even talked about.
00:27:03.000I've told them in no uncertain terms that that provision cannot be in any base bill that we agree to.
00:27:10.000And we'll see how it goes, because I do believe the speaker wants to get something done sooner rather than later, and I think he wants a base bill that, but that, I'm afraid that the base bill, the things that we agree to, but the intel refuses to budge.
00:27:24.000I can't think of any situation where they would support a warrant.
00:27:30.000Look, people don't want to hear this, but then we have to work with Democrats.
00:27:33.000If Republicans won't stand up for civil liberties and the Fourth Amendment and a warrant requirement, I have no problem working with liberal Democrats who hate my guts to try to get those things accomplished.
00:27:46.000I mean, do you have any reticence to that?
00:28:09.000Well, Andy Biggs truly is the smartest guy in Congress when it comes to The border and border policies.
00:28:14.000He's also one of the great litigators we have.
00:28:17.000If his prediction is correct that upon the return of Majority Leader Steve Scalise will be passing an impeachment, then you will be seeing Andy Biggs as one of our impeachment managers over in the Senate putting Mayorkas on trial.
00:28:28.000And I really think that's going to ignite the American people of all states, Of all political persuasions to demand accountability and to demand a closed border.
00:28:38.000Now we want to focus on something going on in South Africa that I think is going to really surprise you.
00:28:45.000The chairman of the ascendant economic freedom fighters political party in South Africa is a guy named Julius Malena.
00:28:54.000He's got some pretty genocidal thoughts about white people.
00:29:46.000Especially if things are going the way they are, there will be a revolution in this country, I can tell you now.
00:29:54.000We're back live in the Rumble studios for the first time here in Washington, D.C. Quite the setup.
00:29:59.000That was the chairman of the Economic Freedom Fighters Party, Julius Malena, perhaps the next president of South Africa.
00:30:07.000There's an election that'll be later in 2024. Joining me now to discuss this is my Legislative Counsel in our office here in Washington, D.C., John Wilson.
00:30:17.000John has studied these things a good bit and gives us advice on matters of foreign and domestic policy.
00:30:23.000So, John, what is going on in South Africa?
00:30:37.000And the solution for the economic freedom fighters and Julius Malema is to Genocide white farmers.
00:30:44.000You know, get rid of the farmers that are providing food for you, which we know how that went in Zimbabwe, Rhodesia.
00:30:49.000It ends with hyperinflation, economic collapse, and worse.
00:30:53.000And when you look at the situation, you really got to realize what type of guy Julius Malema is.
00:30:59.000This is a person who was head of the African National Congress Youth Federation and ended up leaving because he was too radical.
00:31:06.000That's like leaving the Democratic Socialists of America because you think they're a little pink up.
00:31:11.000I mean, this is a very dangerous guy, and if he ends up gaining seats in this next election, you know, South Africa, everybody over there is in trouble.
00:31:19.000I'm not an expert on South African politics, but these rallies he's hosting are enormous and there seems to be some enthusiasm there.
00:31:27.000Is it a likelihood you think that they could gain more seats sufficient to have him, you know, as part of a coalition government or God forbid, even the leader of the country?
00:31:36.000It's hard to say if they can overtake the ANC, but I expect they will gain a lot of seats.
00:31:42.000I mean, it's an attractive ideology to a lot of people.
00:31:44.000I mean, it's just blunt force Marxism.
00:31:47.000I mean, all Marxism really is anyway, as we know, is hate what is beautiful, hate what is good, and hate those that are better off than you.
00:31:54.000I wonder how the globalist entities are going to respond to this, John, because they...
00:31:59.000The critiques of South Africa, the movement of South Africa to become more of a continental hegemon, you know, the global communities reacted to that in different ways.
00:32:10.000Like, is there going to be some renunciation of this?
00:32:14.000Or is this critical race theory to the global scale?
00:32:21.000That if people are white and you feel aggrieved by them, you're justified in killing them?
00:32:27.000Yeah, I wouldn't get my hopes up for any sort of globalist condemnation of what's going on with Malema in South Africa.
00:32:33.000I mean, already he has the backing of a lot of globalist NGOs and institutions.
00:32:37.000Just the other day, after one of his speeches where he called for the, you know, kill the boar, the ADL puts up a defense of him on their website and says that it's not a call for white genocide, that's conspiracy theory, you know, it's just decolonization.
00:32:52.000Contrast with how the ADL views, you know, from the river to the sea, and you can tell these guys aren't acting in good faith.
00:32:57.000And then you look at what recently has happened in Israel on October 7th.
00:33:01.000We know exactly what they mean by decolonize, and we need to take them at their word.
00:33:05.000They mean murder and displace, and that's what they're trying to do to the Boers and the farmers in South Africa, and I don't foresee any globalist institution condemning that.
00:33:14.000Do you think it will result in white flight like you saw in Rhodesia?
00:33:21.000I mean, the funny thing is Robert Mugabe, some years after the fact, begged the farmers to come back.
00:33:27.000He said, please, come back, grow our crops.
00:33:31.000Things went to hell in a handbasket over there, and that's possibly what could happen in South Africa if you were to gain power.
00:33:36.000And it would be a great opportunity for the United States as well.
00:33:39.000You know, you got a couple million Boer farmers over there.
00:33:43.000You bring them here, you know, you drop them off in swing states, they will produce, they will reproduce, you know, they vote red.
00:33:49.000And I mean, I can't imagine anything that's going to get the Democrats to the table in immigration faster than bringing a bunch of poor white South African farmers to the United States.
00:33:57.000We found an asylum class that John Wilson supports, the South African farmers.
00:34:03.000Well, thanks for that update and I want to make sure that people continue to stay informed on that.
00:34:07.000Before we get out of here, we want to thank the good folks at Rumble for allowing us to come and take over their studios here for our live program and we'll probably be back in the coming weeks with updates about what's going on with the big border fight, the government funding fight, and hopefully Some upcoming accountability for the corrupt folks in the Biden administration and the Biden family.