A new poll shows that President Joe Biden's Supreme Court nominee is deeply unpopular with more than three-fourths of Americans, but Republicans aren t standing up against it. And it s no secret that corporate media like the New York Times have become incapable of honest reporting, yet highly capable of influencing the next location of an FBI raid. This week, we have an exclusive interview with James O'Keefe, the founder of Project Veritas, and it ll help you connect the dots. Who are the insiders and whistleblowers working with the Department of Defense and Department of Justice? Is it the DOJ or the DOD that have their own insiders or are they working with a group of insiders or whistleblowers? See if you can catch the hint that James OKeefe drops on that! Plus, find out who might be deposed or exposed next by joining our new segment, "Who Might be Deposed or Exposed Next?" This episode was produced and edited by Alex Blumberg and Sarah Abdurrahmanova. Our theme song is Come Alone by Suneaters, courtesy of Epitaph Records, and our ad music is by Build Buildings. by Haley Shaw. We are produced by Riley Braydon Hill. Additional music by Ian Davenport and Evan Handyside, and additional mixing and mastering by Matthew Bolland, and a live performance by Matthew Keyser. . Thank you to our sponsor, , and our sponsor for making this episode a must-listen episode. and if you re a supporter of the podcast. Thanks to our sponsors and our patron(sounds good enough! and you re good enough to be featured on the podcast? Subscribe to our new ad and review us on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on Podchaser, Podulium! Subscribe on iTunes, Podcoin, and Vimeo, and leave us a review and review our podcast on Podcoin? and help us spread the word about the podcast on social media? Subscribe and subscribe on iTunes! Subscribe to the podcast by clicking here and review the podcast we re listening to us on your favorite podcasting platform? If you like the podcast, we re making it on iTunes and share it on your podcast on your thoughts and review it on the podcatcher? Thanks for listening to our podcast, and we re spreading the word out there on your social media platforms? We re listening out!
00:00:03.000Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
00:00:10.000Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.
00:00:13.000He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.
00:00:16.000So we're going to keep running those stories to keep hurting him.
00:00:20.000If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots!
00:00:53.000We begin with our brand new poll with Ipsos.
00:00:56.000It shows big challenges for President Biden heading into this year's midterm elections.
00:01:01.000Three out of four Americans are pessimistic about the state of the economy.
00:01:06.000Only 29% support deploying troops to counter the Russian threat to Ukraine.
00:01:11.000And more than three-quarters of all Americans questioned the president's pledge to consider only black women to replace retiring Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, saying he should consider all possible nominees.
00:01:46.000Can you just imagine telling a woman of Hispanic descent, maybe a Native American male, that they just haven't experienced enough oppression, they just don't have the right identity even to be considered to serve in the highest court on the land?
00:02:02.000What's happening to us as a country where people's identity is just conflated inexplicably with their experience?
00:02:11.000See, I think people have diverse ideologies and experiences and viewpoints of all races, of both genders.
00:02:20.000And so I think that we ought to take a tougher stand.
00:02:23.000Republicans in the United States Senate should vote no against a nominee who is only selected through a corrupt, racist, and un-American process.
00:02:33.000We talk a lot about how critical race theory is now affecting decisions all throughout government.
00:02:38.000Make sure to check that out in our prior episode.
00:02:42.000This week, we have an exclusive interview with James O'Keefe, the founder of Project Veritas, and it'll help you connect a lot of dots.
00:02:52.000When the Department of Justice wanted to smear me, predictably, they went to the New York Times.
00:02:59.000But there's another part of that loop.
00:03:01.000When the New York Times fears losses in court, when they couldn't get their motion to dismiss Project Veritas' litigation granted, who did the New York Times turn to to stick it to James O'Keefe?
00:03:15.000That's right, the DOJ. And it's increasingly concerning that corporate media like the New York Times have become incapable of honest reporting.
00:03:27.000Yet highly capable to influence the next location of an FBI raid.
00:03:32.000In my interview with James O'Keefe, in just moments, he discusses being targeted, being raided, handcuffed, all while remaining determined and optimistic as an American journalist.
00:03:44.000He lets you know who might be deposed or exposed next.
00:03:51.000Is it the DOD or the DOJ that have their own insiders and whistleblowers working with Project Veritas?
00:03:58.000See if you can catch the hint that James O'Keefe drops on that.
00:04:02.000I caught up with James at the iconic Fountain Blue Hotel in Miami Beach.
00:04:07.000We had celebrated the inspirational courage of whistleblowers who exposed big pharma, big tech, and big business.
00:04:15.000We honored the journalists who brought us the truth.
00:04:36.000His recent book is American Muckraker.
00:04:39.000I've read it and it speaks a lot about modern day media and journalism and the intricacies with power and big tech.
00:04:46.000And I want a chance to chat with you about it, James.
00:04:48.000You seem to have written this book As a critique of modern journalism in America, what are they getting wrong?
00:04:55.000Journalists these days only print what the powers that be want disclosed.
00:05:00.000And really, journalism is supposed to be printing information that they don't want disclosed.
00:05:04.000So in a world where the FBI and the New York Times and pharmaceutical companies are sort of acting in concert with one another, that's not how it should be.
00:05:13.000And this book talks about these different themes, privacy, propaganda, ethics, secrecy, surrounding this genre of publishing unauthorized information.
00:05:24.000Well, you have been breaking the big stories that I think expose those intricacies with power and then the way narrative is portrayed to the American people.
00:05:34.000And one of the ways people try to criticize you, diminish you, deplatform you, is to say that you're not a journalist, you're an I'm an activist.
00:05:42.000I have spent now the last couple days meeting with the dedicated journalists of Project Veritas and the thorough work they do to develop leads and review reporting.
00:05:54.000And they're very, very detailed, far more than the press corps that we interact with on Capitol Hill that have to spit out 21 stories in the next hour or they don't get paid.
00:06:03.000And so what do you say in defense of these folks who really put it all on the line when you're smeared in that way?
00:06:11.000Well, I think that, you know, journalism is distinguished from propaganda because you verify the information.
00:06:17.000And there's a chapter in this book called Deception.
00:06:19.000Yeah, we do use undercover techniques and we use whistleblowers.
00:06:22.000And whistleblowers sometimes have to violate their own non-disclosure agreements with their organizations.
00:06:27.000But the only way to get the truth to the people, to the millions of people out there, is to use these techniques.
00:06:32.000If you present yourself as a journalist to the Department of Defense, if you say, hi, I'm from the Washington Post, tell me all the fraud you're committing.
00:06:41.000You're not going to get an honest truth.
00:06:44.000You're going to get a kind of authorized statement.
00:06:47.000Well, and it's access journalism, right?
00:06:49.000And in Beat Reporting, there's this tension between access and autonomy.
00:06:53.000And that's a tension that's always existed.
00:06:55.000We've gotten to a place now where, due to the consolidation of these companies and a few tech companies, and you basically have an oligarchy with the Washington Post and the New York Times, that's basically it.
00:07:08.000Those organizations only will give you the things that the powerful people want you to know.
00:07:13.000And in the extreme case, they work alongside the FBI. And it's sad and it's tragic, but it's getting harder and harder to break through.
00:07:23.000Well, people think about the FBI and big media as if they're separate entities, but isn't the reality that a lot of these folks leave the deep state and then they go work for the media organizations?
00:07:37.000Yeah, these guys show up, Peter Strzok, they show up then working for the media companies and they're kind of like walking springing leaks.
00:07:43.000Now, you write in the book about the power of The image of the video, right?
00:07:50.000The ability to have raw, verifiable information to allow the consumer of that media to make their own judgment about the information.
00:07:58.000And it strikes me that there's a certain arrogance with modern mainstream journalism where they don't really give us the raw information to analyze.
00:08:15.000So everything you learn about this, you're learning from us.
00:08:18.000Right, and so talk about how Project Veritas, despite the extent to which, you know, big tech has tried to de-platform you, you guys break through because the video doesn't lie.
00:08:30.000There's a second chapter of the book called Image, and I believe that human nature is such that if you show people the reality, They'll have the right information.
00:08:37.000The whole Jeffersonian notion of the First Amendment is the idea that you give people unauthorized information.
00:08:42.000Images transfix in a way that words don't.
00:08:44.000I mean, I'm in Miami here, and you were at the event last night, and I showed people.
00:09:24.000And I'm not opposed to anonymous sources.
00:09:27.000But we have no reason to trust these institutions because every time you actually look at the sources and see what they said, it never matches up.
00:09:35.000And furthermore, the people in the government that are leaking this information, it's effectively a form of counterintelligence propaganda because they're giving the newspapers information that's not necessarily true.
00:09:46.000So Veritas shows you with your own eyes.
00:10:31.000But they do this to us because we're telling the truth, not despite it.
00:10:35.000And I also believe that in some regard it's emboldened us.
00:10:39.000In other words, the sources that come to me, we had a source come to us with documents inside the Pentagon.
00:10:45.000Project Veritas has obtained a separate report to the Inspector General of the Department of Defense, written by the U.S. Marine Corps Major Joseph Murphy, a former DARPA Fellow.
00:10:56.000Major Murphy makes claims in his report to the Inspector General that if true could be damning to the official narrative that has been played out to the world over the past two years.
00:11:06.000Major Murphy's report states that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018 seeking funding to conduct gain-of-function research of bat-borne coronaviruses.
00:11:16.000The proposal was named Project Diffuse.
00:11:19.000DARPA rejected the proposal because the work was too dangerous and could violate the gain-of-function moratorium, despite EcoHealth's position that it would not.
00:11:28.000According to the documents, the NIAID, under the direction of Dr. Fauci, did not reject the proposal.
00:11:34.000I went ahead with the research at Wuhan and several sites across the U.S. Those people come to us because we are attacked.
00:11:42.000They trust me because they say you must be doing something right if the powers that be are trying to silence you all the time.
00:11:48.000And you are always making the pitch to whistleblowers out there that if folks are in a corrupt organization, And feel compelled to speak out that you have an infrastructure that you've built with this brave team at Project Veritas to ensure that that does get out.
00:12:02.000I had a chance to meet with several of your whistleblowers and Project Veritas was not typically the first place they went.
00:13:25.000What's the point of living if you're not following your conscience?
00:13:29.000And I think as our society drifts towards whatever dystopian reality we're already living in and maybe headed worse towards, People put more emphasis on that.
00:13:39.000That is to say, what is the meaning of life?
00:13:41.000Because I do think we all struggle and go through pain and even if you do nothing, you go through pain, maybe more so.
00:13:49.000So I find more people are following Eric's lead and Eric did that first.
00:13:53.000Eric was like kind of the first test case.
00:13:56.000And then other people watch what he did and said, well, why don't I do that?
00:15:45.000The guy that was recorded or some guy who the guy talked to?
00:15:48.000And this is the propaganda that we have to deal with, and this is the story of how to endure it, I guess.
00:15:52.000Yeah, American Muckraker certainly lays bare the corruption that's in big media, but that's not the only headwind you face as you go armed with the truth and with these videos that folks collect.
00:16:03.000You also face the headwinds from big tech, and you write in the book about the vertically integrated vortex of propaganda.
00:16:12.000It's something that we all know so much about in our day-to-day lives, the consolidation of these tech companies.
00:16:17.000And you've done some good work with Facebook.
00:16:19.000We did a story on some of the censorship of the human algorithms combined with machine learning.
00:16:26.000You have previously given testimony to the Congress saying that there is not editorial manipulation that disadvantages conservatives.
00:16:33.000And just like in the case of Google, there have been whistleblowers from Facebook that not only have Offered evidence indicating the testimony was not truthful, but there's even video that suggests that content moderators that you employ...
00:16:47.000If you bring the game to it, it could work on the left side.
00:16:51.000I'm wondering if you are familiar with the experiences of Zach McElroy.
00:16:55.000The truth is more powerful than any NDA. Ryan Hartwig.
00:16:58.000I've seen them interfering on a global level in elections.
00:17:01.000Two people who participated in Facebook content review.
00:17:04.000I saw a stark contrast between Republicans versus Democrats in that queue.
00:17:08.000I saw upwards of 75 to 80 percent of the posts in that queue were from Republican pages.
00:17:14.000Politicians, journalists, and pages that supported the president or supported conservatives.
00:17:22.000I think both in the case of these content moderators and in the case of the testimony you just gave regarding Mr. Luckey and firing people over their politics, There is serious question as to whether or not you're giving truthful testimony here or whether it's lying before Congress.
00:17:49.000Morgan Comm and a Facebook whistleblower even released documents showing vaccine hesitancy.
00:17:54.000Facebook uses classifiers in their algorithms to determine certain content to be what they call vaccine hesitant, or they call it vaccine hesitancy.
00:18:02.000and you doubt the user's knowledge, they assign a score to these comments that's called a VH score, the Vaccine Hesitancy Score.
00:18:09.000And based on that score, we'll demote or leave the comment alone, depending on the content within the comment.
00:18:14.000And one of the most remarkable things, Matt, about the documents that Morgan Common released was, it said, even if the information is true, they'll still censor it.
00:18:25.000That was an extraordinary admission, albeit one that they did not want you to know.
00:18:49.000And I think about how you got your start making, at times, comedic or satirical videos on YouTube and then provoking thought and questions about events that were happening around us.
00:19:01.000We basically wanted to bring a matter to your concern that we noticed that at the dining halls here at Rutgers serve lucky charms.
00:19:12.000And we think that this promotes negative stereotypes of Irish Americans and we don't think it's acceptable in an academic setting, especially one of higher learning.
00:19:26.000And I wonder if the next James O'Keefe arrived on the scene today and relied upon YouTube for reach, would that even be possible?
00:19:37.000Because you've exposed in your reporting how the very platform that brought you to prominence cheats.
00:19:44.000It's almost like someone said to me earlier in our career that we were like the boxers who stepped outside the box and climbed to the mezzanine and started punching the people up there.
00:19:53.000We're not supposed to investigate NPR. You're investigating YouTube.
00:19:57.000You're investigating the hand that feeds you.
00:20:00.000Our Pfizer videos are still up there, to my shock.
00:20:03.000We have 1.5 million subscribers on YouTube.
00:20:30.000From the perspective of corporate affairs, we want to avoid having the information on the fetal cell lines floating out there.
00:20:36.000We believe that the risk of communicating this right now outweighs any potential benefit that we could see, particularly with general members of the public who may take this information and use it in ways we may not want it out there.
00:20:48.000Many fetal cells are used in the development of many vaccines, but why would the senior director at Pfizer want to hide that from their customers?
00:20:56.000I don't think people should be hiding things from their customers.
00:20:59.000But why would they ban our video for quoting a Pfizer executive?
00:21:11.000There shouldn't be any disagreement on this.
00:21:13.000Well, you talked about the remedy being in the purview of the Congress, and you're right.
00:21:17.000And frankly, it's an area where we have bipartisan agreement and bipartisan disagreement.
00:21:21.000I have some colleagues who say, well, if we reform Section 230, peel away a few immunities, we can leave these companies intact, and that will resolve these free speech Issues that Project Veritas certainly champions.
00:21:34.000And there are others of us who believe that these companies have grown more powerful than the most powerful nations in all of human history.
00:21:42.000And that the only way to deal with them is to reshape them, is to break them up, is to force Google to alienate YouTube, to create more voices and more opportunities.
00:21:51.000And I'm not going to ask you to weigh in on what the right policy choice is, but talk about how it will affect journalism going forward if Alphabet, if Twitter, if the metaverse continue on this kind of transhumanist path with the ability to define the nature of truth itself.
00:22:12.000The meta experiment is something that I've, you know, Zuckerberg is now calling it meta, and we're going to live in a world, they say, the predictors say, in five years where we're all just living in this virtual reality.
00:22:23.000Imagine you put on your glasses or headset and you're instantly in your home space.
00:22:28.000It has parts of your physical home recreated virtually, it has things that are only possible virtually, and it has an incredibly inspiring view of whatever you find most beautiful.
00:23:47.000And I actually do believe that the tragedy in modern life is that we don't agree on facts.
00:23:53.000We should not be disagreeing about whether this is a Fiji bottle or not a Coca-Cola.
00:23:58.000We should all agree this is a bottle of Fiji, but for some reason we're divided on what this is.
00:24:05.000So my job is to make sure that 80% of Americans agree this is water.
00:24:10.000And it sounds crazy, but George Orwell wrote in 1984 that freedom is the freedom to say that 2 plus 2 equals 4. If that is granted, all else follows.
00:24:18.000And that is being challenged right now.
00:24:20.000When I'm banned for quoting CNN, Matt, the videos we did on Twitter in April, The guy at CNN, the control room director, actually said, we're propaganda.
00:25:00.000COVID gangbusters are great at us, right?
00:25:04.000Which is why we constantly have a death toll on the side, which I have a major problem with that we're tallying how many people die every day.
00:25:12.000Because I've even looked at it and be like...
00:25:14.000look at it and be like, let's make it higher.
00:25:18.000Like, why isn't it high enough, you know, today?
00:25:20.000Like, it would make our point better if it was higher.
00:26:03.000Another theme you write about though is that these entities used to just exist for profit and now it's about the power as much as the profit.
00:26:11.000I think as long as you are living in a world where, at least politically, if you want to speak about politics, That Congress is so divided on things they should...
00:26:21.000I feel like they shouldn't be divided on.
00:26:49.000Well, but it's actually one of the areas, the way that the consumer interacts with the digital world is a place where we see some fissures in just kind of the red team versus the blue team stuff.
00:26:59.000And I'm not pessimistic about how strident that is because you look at how Trump really reshaped policy paradigms with a more populist realignment.
00:27:08.000So, you know, I don't think we're forever married to, well, it's a 50-50 country.
00:27:11.000We can never I mean, you look at this Ukraine conflict now, you've got more and more Republicans cautioning against a war-first strategy.
00:27:22.000That wouldn't even have happened in the 90s.
00:27:25.000But you fight these fronts, not just against big media, not just against big tech and big government, But really, against all those institutions align, and you do it in court.
00:27:36.000That's something that a lot of journalists don't have the courage to do.
00:27:39.000I just wanted to give you a moment, and there's a great review of this in the litigation chapter of the book, but talk about the cases that Project Veritas has maybe been involved in, or the matters that you think are the most important to journalism.
00:27:53.000There's a whole chapter called litigation, and I believe you're an attorney, correct?
00:28:16.000And if you don't settle, you go through the discovery phase of a lawsuit.
00:28:19.000And that means you get to depose the other side and they get to depose me.
00:28:23.000What I learned in my life after a decade of doing this is that they, i.e., our opponents, the opponents of freedom and information, they tend to keep secrets.
00:28:34.000I don't really keep that many secrets, Matt.
00:28:36.000I mean, I do keep the identity of our donors secret.
00:28:39.000That's a freedom of association issue under 5.1c3 regulations.
00:28:42.000It's essentially the source code of your organization.
00:28:45.000And also the freedom of association right under the First Amendment.
00:28:48.000Now, donors don't tell us what to do, but A hundred thousand people donate to us and it would create a constitutional crisis if we were to identify those people.
00:28:58.000And then you have the identity of whistleblowers.
00:29:00.000But other than that, I don't keep secrets.
00:29:02.000So in a deposition, I love being deposed.
00:29:05.000Please do interview me and ask me all these questions about what motivates me.
00:29:10.000You're not going to find anything incriminating.
00:29:14.000So in the beginning, they would sue me thinking they would break my will and get me to fold like a cheap suit because they're projecting onto me their own insecurity.
00:29:48.000And it got to a jury verdict and the federal judge in North Carolina looked at the seven lawyers representing Shirley Teeter and said, why on earth are we here?
00:29:58.000Because if you sued Mike Wallace for what you're suing O'Keefe for, everyone would laugh at you.
00:30:03.000It somehow got past summary judgment, probably because my reputation is so sullen in Wikipedia.
00:30:09.000And then after that, they stopped suing me because they realized we don't settle.
00:30:13.000And now recently, Matt, we sued the New York Times for defamation.
00:30:19.000And on Christmas Eve of this past year, the judge ordered the New York Times to sequester these memos.
00:30:25.000Who are you looking forward to deposing most in the New York Times case that now goes to Discovery?
00:30:29.000I think Maggie Astor, the reporter that wrote the article.
00:30:32.000She, in the first sentence of this article, she wrote, deceptive videos released by, you know, and her defense in the answer to the complaint was, Your Honor, that was just our opinion.
00:30:43.000And the judge said, well, then why was it in the A section in a news article?
00:30:48.000Why did you disguise it as, you know...
00:30:50.000It seems the judge also took occasion to remind the New York Times that there were media organizations on both sides of this case.
00:30:58.000And he said it was the New York Times that engaged in disinformation and deception by injecting their opinion in a news article as they're claiming.
00:31:08.000And by the way, Matt, after that article that came out in the New York Times, this is about our Minnesota voter fraud videos, they said that we were using disinformation and...
00:31:16.000Facebook banned the video because Facebook uses the New York Times as their fact-checking source.
00:33:39.000But in doing so, I think they woke people up.
00:33:42.000There was a significant moment for me last night, James.
00:33:46.000I was at the Project Veritas experience and I got to meet the journalist who did the Charlie Chester interviews.
00:33:54.000And who, in many ways, vindicated what I was telling people, that CNN was trying to propagandize my life because I'm an effective congressman.
00:34:03.000And I always dreamed that I might be able to meet this person and express my gratitude to them.
00:34:08.000And the fact that the Project Veritas event here in Miami gave me the opportunity to do that and to share How grateful I was that someone showed that courage when you are in the barrel and you feel like everything's against you and you just want to get some elements of truth out.
00:34:24.000For people to be willing to do that and step forward, it really is something.
00:34:29.000And the fact that you provide this sense of relief that people feel when they're a part of your mission, They don't feel burdened by the mission at Project Veritas.
00:34:37.000I wanted to thank you just from the bottom of my heart for giving people that platform, for inspiring that courage in folks doing that.
00:34:45.000And I am hopeful that there will be more Project Veritas-styled entities.
00:34:50.000I'm sure you love cornering the market, but I worry that the fact that your organization is the only organization in America that does what you do It brings a certain frailty to it.
00:35:00.000And that's what I fear most is that something could happen to Project Veritas and then there would almost be no way to get corruption out.
00:35:09.000There would be no platform for whistleblowers.
00:35:11.000And so I just wonder, what do you fear most as you wake up every day with the burden of managing this organization, inspiring these whistleblowers, being the caretakers of their stories?
00:35:45.000Veritas has like 70 employees now and quite a budget that's given to all these, you know, by these generous people, thousands and thousands of people.
00:36:23.000Spencer Meads and Eric Cochran, that's the Pinterest guy who is our director of Whistleblonde, former colleague of mine, they raided his home and then they knocked on my door two days later.
00:36:32.000And of course, the moment they knocked on my door, pounded on my door.
00:36:35.000I knew at that moment it was the feds because they had done it to my colleagues.
00:36:38.000And there was about two days where I was kind of, I was scared.
00:36:43.000And I'll say it, I was definitely scared.
00:37:11.000The magistrate judge had signed the search warrant prior to be making the statement, so it wasn't my statement that made them raid me.
00:37:18.000But I said, I need the world to know what is happening right now.
00:37:22.000Late last year, we were approached by tipsters claiming they had a copy of Ashley Biden's diary.
00:37:27.000We had never met or heard of the tipsters.
00:37:29.000The tipsters indicated the diary had been abandoned in a room in which Ms. Biden stayed at the time, and in which the tipsters stayed in temporarily after Ms. Biden departed the room.
00:37:39.000The tipsters indicated that the diary included explosive allegations against then-candidate Joe Biden.
00:37:45.000At the end of the day, we made the ethical decision that because, in part, we could not determine if the diary was real, if the diary in fact belonged to Ashley Biden, or if the contents of the diary occurred, we could not publish the diary in any part thereof.
00:38:00.000Now, Ms. Biden's father's Department of Justice, specifically the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, appears to be investigating the situation, claiming the diary was stolen.
00:38:12.000This federal investigation smacks of politics.
00:38:15.000Project Veritas never threatened or engaged in any investigation.
00:38:20.000Should the Southern District of New York try to take away our First Amendment rights and uncover and publish newsworthy stories without government intimidation, be assured Project Veritas will not back down.
00:38:46.000I think the thing that, you know, the thing that I hope I'm concerned about is I hope good people inside these horrible institutions do the right thing.
00:38:56.000I hope there's one person at the Department of Justice out of 120,000 people that have the stones to come forward.
00:39:04.000That may be the next entity that we learn about.
00:39:09.000Well, the always foreshadowing, the bold, the fearless James O'Keefe, thanks for what you do for really just the state of the First Amendment and for all these great folks that make sure we get the truth out.
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