Firebrand - Matt Gaetz - Episode 38 LIVE: Leaders & Liars (feat. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

00:00:00.000 Yeah.

00:00:00.000 I mean, here's the meeting.

00:00:02.000 I can't find when you're at the meeting.

00:00:04.000 How long are you?

00:00:05.000 Something is this.

00:00:06.000 I mean, we've gone anywhere from 30 to 50.

00:00:08.000 I catch it when I talk.

00:00:09.000 I'm not going anywhere from 30 to 50.

00:04:15.000 Matt Gaetz.

00:04:18.000 Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.

00:04:26.000 Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem for the Democratic Party.

00:04:29.000 He can cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.

00:04:32.000 But we're going to keep running those stories to get running.

00:04:35.000 If you stand for the If you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots!

00:04:45.000 You are in the right place!

00:04:46.000 This is the movement for you!

00:04:49.000 You ever watch this guy on television?

00:04:51.000 Like a machine.

00:04:53.000 Matt Gaetz.

00:04:54.000 I'm a cancelled man in some corners of the internet.

00:04:58.000 I'm a marked man in Congress, a wanted man by the deep state.

00:05:03.000 They aren't really coming for me.

00:05:06.000 They're coming for you.

00:05:07.000 I'm just in the way.

00:05:09.000 Welcome back to Firebrand Live.

00:05:17.000 We've got Elon leading a purchasing Twitter.

00:05:20.000 We've got Joe Biden lying on the border on marijuana policy, Fauci fascism, the latest in GOP leadership.

00:05:29.000 And to break it all down, the unbeatable, unstoppable Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:05:35.000 If you're watching, make sure to leave us a comment.

00:05:37.000 We can read those, respond to them on air.

00:05:39.000 The very first comment we got...

00:05:41.000 From Christy Porter Knapp, tell us what is going on with MTG! Only her district should be allowed to keep her off the ballot.

00:05:49.000 We're going to break down that hearing and everything in just a moment, but Congresswoman, you have just returned from the border, and I want you to give our viewers and listeners the direct report what you saw at Eagle Pass on your trip that you're literally just landing back in Washington from.

00:06:06.000 Well, I'm just going to say it's far worse than people realize.

00:06:10.000 It's one thing to see it on the news.

00:06:12.000 It's one thing to read about it on the internet or in the paper.

00:06:16.000 But it's a true invasion every single day with an average of 7,000 illegals.

00:06:22.000 Those are the ones they know about coming across the border.

00:06:25.000 And Joe Biden is absolutely fueling it.

00:06:29.000 He is the greatest business partner to the cartels they have ever had.

00:06:34.000 And he's the king of the cartels.

00:06:36.000 This is a...

00:06:37.000 The largest human trafficking operation in the world, Matt, and the United States taxpayers are paying for it.

00:06:44.000 If Joe Biden was the king of the cartels, it would be his greatest accomplishment.

00:06:48.000 It is his greatest accomplishment.

00:06:50.000 Here's what a lot of people, I think, want to know. 1.00

00:06:53.000 Is the border open in America because these people are utter fools and don't know what to do? 0.98

00:06:58.000 Or is the border open in America because they have purposefully destroyed Trump's policies and the stuff that they know works? 0.99

00:07:05.000 It's absolutely intentional.

00:07:06.000 They have purposely destroyed his policies, and this is a worldwide organization.

00:07:13.000 It is a funded, intentional operation to invade America, and it's happening every single day. 0.81

00:07:21.000 People are coming—well, I sent you that clip, our friend Ben Berkwam.

00:07:25.000 He was down in Panama.

00:07:27.000 I sent you that because I wanted you to...

00:07:28.000 I said, let's go, Matt.

00:07:29.000 We should go there.

00:07:30.000 And I'm still going to push you to go.

00:07:32.000 But people are coming...

00:07:33.000 Here we come, Panama.

00:07:34.000 Firebrand Live from Panama is going to be real interesting.

00:07:36.000 But...

00:07:37.000 Well, we always go where no one else goes.

00:07:38.000 But you are checking both ends of this chain of people.

00:07:42.000 It's not just about standing there, you know, on a CODEL with Border Patrol and hearing it firsthand about how...

00:07:48.000 How they're so frustrated.

00:07:49.000 Their hands are tied.

00:07:50.000 They're suicidal.

00:07:51.000 They hate the Biden administration, don't they? 0.62

00:07:53.000 They hate the Biden administration.

00:07:54.000 I mean, these are the folks that turned their back on Mayorkas when he went down to the border.

00:07:59.000 They feel disrespected by this administration.

00:08:01.000 They are disrespected.

00:08:02.000 And then you watch.

00:08:04.000 Here they are.

00:08:05.000 They're basically the welcoming committee.

00:08:07.000 They're forced to be the welcoming committee and it's a slap in their face because that's not what they were trained to do.

00:08:12.000 That's not why they have the jobs they have.

00:08:15.000 As a matter of fact, it's the opposite.

00:08:16.000 Then they take them in, they process them, and ICE gives them not an ankle bracelet, Matt, but a free cell phone, courtesy of Joe Biden.

00:08:24.000 Barack Obama gave out cell phones for votes.

00:08:27.000 Well, we got Joe Biden gives you a cell phone when you invade our country illegally.

00:08:31.000 Well, we are going to cover a great deal more of that in the coming week.

00:08:34.000 Alexander Mayorkas has a number of appearances before Congress.

00:08:38.000 We're going to be bringing folks the clips from that, the highlights, frankly, a lot of the lowlights.

00:08:44.000 One lowlight for the Republic occurred during this last congressional work period where a bizarre administrative process in Georgia Had you giving testimony for like five hours on whether or not you're an insurrectionist.

00:08:59.000 And what I really appreciated kind of looking back on it and having been there to observe it is that this is like a lot of kind of the anti-MTG attacks.

00:09:07.000 They think that if they treat you worse than everyone else and subject you to unspeakable things that no one else has to go through, that that will weaken you.

00:09:17.000 And what they never expect is that it will make you stronger.

00:09:20.000 They did that when they stripped you from committees.

00:09:22.000 Then you got oversight on all committees.

00:09:24.000 They don't like that very much.

00:09:26.000 Now they're going after your ability to stand before your voters.

00:09:30.000 This is the issue lighting up the comments section right now.

00:09:34.000 People all across the country and in Georgia saying they stand with you.

00:09:39.000 Let's start with this.

00:09:40.000 How have your voters reacted to this effort to disenfranchise them?

00:09:45.000 That's the greatest question.

00:09:46.000 You know, no one wants to talk about in the media and the mainstream news, you know, on CNN and Sunday shows and the New York Times, etc.

00:09:54.000 They don't want to talk about how my district actually feels about it.

00:09:57.000 And they are so angry.

00:09:59.000 My district offices are receiving phone calls.

00:10:03.000 They can't even answer the phone because so many people are calling in.

00:10:07.000 Our phone lines are completely shut down with so many phone calls of support.

00:10:12.000 But people in the district saying, how do we stop this?

00:10:15.000 How do we stop?

00:10:16.000 We are so angry.

00:10:17.000 They cannot affect our ability to vote for us.

00:10:19.000 Well, they're standing up for themselves.

00:10:20.000 No one cares about their right to vote.

00:10:23.000 In Georgia, there's a lot going on right now that would lend some people to believe that their vote is not precious.

00:10:28.000 Because you have a Secretary of State and you have an election administration system in Fulton County that dilutes the votes with fraudulent activity and And then their vote isn't even precious enough for them to be able to give it to you, according to some group of people, I bet, largely funded outside the state of Georgia.

00:10:47.000 Oh, 100%.

00:10:48.000 Let's talk about that.

00:10:48.000 Do you think this is an effort to distract you from the very important work you're leading in Congress?

00:10:53.000 Well, this is the playbook of the left.

00:10:55.000 It's create chaos.

00:10:57.000 Chaos after chaos after chaos after chaos.

00:10:59.000 Crisis after crisis after crisis after crisis.

00:11:01.000 And it's flood the system so that everyone is just overwhelmed with this intense level of chaos and crisis.

00:11:08.000 Failing flat on their face.

00:11:10.000 This is a group.

00:11:11.000 These aren't my voters.

00:11:12.000 You know, we have over 700,000 people in Georgia 14. And guess what?

00:11:17.000 Congratulations to Free Speech for People.

00:11:19.000 They found five.

00:11:20.000 Five voters.

00:11:21.000 Guess what?

00:11:21.000 One of them happens to be the Democrat chairwoman for our district.

00:11:26.000 So everyone knows what's going on here.

00:11:30.000 You know, at the end of the Civil War, there was a concern that former Confederate officers would run for Congress and be elected and then take action That wasn't in service of the Union or reconciliation or reunification of our country, but instead would continue to be in service of the Confederacy.

00:11:46.000 So these novel features of state law have laid dormant since the era after the Civil War.

00:11:54.000 And now you have partisan, well-funded groups doing everything they can to try to exercise these novel elements of state law, particularly against Madison Cawthorn, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, and you.

00:12:07.000 And here's the thing, in the matter of Biggs and Gosar in Arizona, in the matter of Cawthorn in North Carolina, federal courts stepped in and they issued injunctions against that bizarre state process.

00:12:22.000 But in your case, didn't the federal judge have some weird nexus to the mainstream media?

00:12:28.000 Well, it happened to be related to a certain person that works for NPR, her sister.

00:12:35.000 Oh, great.

00:12:36.000 So when Clarence Thomas' wife sends text messages, all of that is immediately imputed to him.

00:12:41.000 Of course.

00:12:41.000 But you can have somebody, you know, with this familial relationship with NPR, who I'm sure they've said some pretty nasty things about you.

00:12:48.000 Not a problem at all.

00:12:50.000 And then ruling on this case.

00:12:51.000 But what I thought...

00:12:53.000 Was really one of the most bizarre things I'd ever seen in a courtroom in my life was when they tried to accuse you of calling for bloodshed and violence by referencing the year 1776. Right.

00:13:08.000 Of all things.

00:13:08.000 So let's go to a clip from the hearing and take a listen.

00:13:15.000 And you know that the term 1776 is actually a term that's sometimes used in politics today.

00:13:24.000 I don't know if you've noticed our state seal here in Georgia.

00:13:28.000 I know you're not from Georgia.

00:13:29.000 But as you can see, we enjoy our history and we're proud of our freedoms.

00:13:35.000 1776 is on our state seal.

00:13:37.000 Great.

00:13:40.000 Wow.

00:13:41.000 I don't know how the court could possibly rule that a reference to 1776 was coded insurrection, while 1776 is literally hanging over the judge's head in the courtroom.

00:13:52.000 It was really an unbelievable moment.

00:13:55.000 Interesting thing about that lawyer questioning you, he had a tremendous amount of cat hair on his suit, which was my favorite thing about him.

00:14:02.000 But what do we know about the folks that are funding that nonsense?

00:14:06.000 Well, I know they're not from Georgia, that's for sure, because they don't quite understand how we feel about 1776, that we're proud of our freedoms and our country's founding, so much so that we have it on our state seal.

00:14:18.000 And by his definition and the way he was framing everything or trying to frame and lie about me, that very courtroom would be guilty of trying to wage an insurrection because the seal is hanging on the wall behind the judge and it says 1776. I just wonder if that irony smacked him in the face as he was staring at the seal with 1776. There are moments, like, as a lawyer in a courtroom where you know this is not going well.

00:14:43.000 And that was particularly a courtroom riddled with those moments from the petitioner.

00:14:48.000 Any word on when we expect a decision?

00:14:50.000 Not a decision.

00:14:51.000 The judge in this case, under this bizarre feature of novel state law, makes recommendations to Brad Raffensperger.

00:14:58.000 So I guess, you know, democracy...

00:15:01.000 Rests in the fragile and shaky hands of Brad Raffensperger on this one, but what's the window of time for the judge to issue findings of fact and conclusions of law?

00:15:08.000 It should be within a week or two.

00:15:10.000 I do want to point out something since we're members of Congress and I want to discuss this with you.

00:15:15.000 So this group, they're a funded group of attorneys.

00:15:19.000 They're more like activists.

00:15:21.000 They're not interested in my...

00:15:23.000 I know the type.

00:15:23.000 They don't care about democracy.

00:15:24.000 They don't care about my district's vote.

00:15:26.000 They don't care about free speech as a matter.

00:15:28.000 They're trying to silence my district's speech by ripping me off the ballot, taking away my district's ability to vote for me when I've done absolutely nothing wrong.

00:15:36.000 They're funded.

00:15:37.000 They're funded by a lot of groups, you know, groups like Cloud Mountain Foundation, Kohlberg Foundation, Overlook Foundation.

00:15:45.000 This is all public information.

00:15:47.000 Park Foundation, San Francisco Foundation, Schumann Media Center, and so forth.

00:15:52.000 Here's what's interesting, Matt.

00:15:56.000 The views that they hold, the policies that they want, the laws that they want in place in our country, are things like they want illegals to vote.

00:16:04.000 They want to...

00:16:05.000 They not only fund abortion, they fund Planned Parenthood, Narrow, and they protect it.

00:16:10.000 They go after the most...

00:16:13.000 They pursue the most radical left policies that I completely oppose and work against.

00:16:19.000 This is what this is really about.

00:16:21.000 That's what this case is about.

00:16:22.000 It has nothing to do...

00:16:24.000 With what happened on January 6th because we all know and they know and everyone knows all we did was object.

00:16:30.000 But this has everything to do with pursuing the radical left's policy and pushing their policies and they have to remove people like me, people like you, the strongest fighters in Congress to do it.

00:16:42.000 Well, I know how proud your district was of you, and certainly as your colleague, I was proud of you because you handled that effort with, I think, a tremendous amount of grace, and I would not have been so graceful.

00:16:55.000 So I give you all the credit in the world, and a lot of folks right now giving credit to Elon Musk for putting his money where his mouth is on Twitter.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:05.000 Elon, restore Trump, restore the Babylon Bee, and restore the account of my colleague Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:17:12.000 Make Twitter fun again.

00:17:14.000 I feel like Elon has basically been carrying the platform without you there.

00:17:19.000 Are you expecting a reinstatement?

00:17:21.000 I should get a reinstatement.

00:17:23.000 I was supposedly banned for COVID misinformation.

00:17:26.000 But, you know, a lot of people don't understand.

00:17:28.000 They're like, well, she is on Twitter because of her RepMTG account.

00:17:31.000 But that's not necessarily true, as you know.

00:17:34.000 As members of Congress, we have rules about what we can and can't say on our congressional social media platforms where we have our free speech on our personal accounts.

00:17:46.000 And so my personal account is permanently banned.

00:17:50.000 For what Twitter said was COVID misinformation, but there was not misinformation there.

00:17:55.000 It was my opinion, free speech, and then quoted information.

00:17:58.000 You were telling people that they would be more resilient against COVID if they lived healthier lives and lost weight and went to the gym, which started as misinformation and then ended up being medical doctrine.

00:18:13.000 If you are not reinstated, what does that tell us about the Musk era of Twitter?

00:18:18.000 If my personal account is not reinstated, which I can't imagine it not being reinstated, Dr. Robert Malone, I saw he had his account back today, and he was taken off permanently banned for...

00:18:31.000 COVID misinformation.

00:18:32.000 I've noticed an uptick in like the last 48 hours.

00:18:36.000 I think the shadow ban like clasp may be coming off.

00:18:39.000 I think it's kind of going back and forth.

00:18:41.000 Right.

00:18:41.000 Maybe the grip's loosening.

00:18:43.000 It's not off.

00:18:44.000 Well, I think there's like some people in there still like trying to apply it maybe back and forth.

00:18:48.000 I've gotten a lot.

00:18:49.000 I know we've gotten a lot more followers.

00:18:51.000 Some of my tweets have just...

00:18:53.000 There could be any number of reasons why you're getting more followers.

00:18:55.000 Talk about compounding factors.

00:18:57.000 And really what we stand for is free speech.

00:19:00.000 Just the notion that in a world in which people are confronted with challenging information, that they can review sources, that they can be critical of arguments.

00:19:09.000 I believe in an America that is strong enough to face disinformation without the Twitter overlords, like being the arbiters of truth.

00:19:17.000 I believe in people.

00:19:18.000 People are smart enough to figure it out.

00:19:21.000 Well, one thing that I think a lot of folks are figuring out is what's going on currently in GOP leadership.

00:19:27.000 And it was much the talk of the Sunday shows of the mainstream media, comments attributed to Kevin McCarthy, comments made by Kevin McCarthy.

00:19:38.000 The New York Times originally publishing the article that I guess McCarthy held the view that Donald Trump should resign, and then after that we saw Kevin McCarthy issue a pretty unequivocal denial, denying the veracity of those things, and after that denial we heard the words of Kevin McCarthy.

00:20:00.000 Liz, you on the phone?

00:20:02.000 Yeah, I'm here.

00:20:03.000 Thanks, Kevin.

00:20:04.000 I guess there's a question.

00:20:06.000 When we were talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, and you asked what happens if it gets there after he's gone, is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign?

00:20:18.000 Is there any reason to think that might happen?

00:20:22.000 I've had a few discussions.

00:20:25.000 My gut tells me no.

00:20:29.000 I'm seriously thinking of having that conversation with him tonight.

00:20:34.000 I haven't talked to him in a couple days.

00:20:38.000 From what I know of him, I mean, you guys all know him too.

00:20:41.000 Do you think he'd ever back away?

00:20:43.000 But what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to call him.

00:20:48.000 This is what I think.

00:20:52.000 No one will pass the house.

00:20:54.000 I think there's a chance he'll pass the family even when he's gone.

00:21:00.000 And I think there's a lot of different ramifications for that.

00:21:04.000 Now, I haven't had a discussion with the Dems that if he did resign, it would not happen.

00:21:10.000 Now, this is one personal fear I have.

00:21:14.000 I do not want to get into any conversation about Pence pardoning.

00:21:19.000 I mean, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass, and it would be my recommendation we should resign.

00:21:29.000 I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think you would take it.

00:21:36.000 I do know there was never a chance that Donald Trump was going to resign the presidency.

00:21:41.000 He is not a quitter.

00:21:43.000 He's a fighter.

00:21:43.000 He's still fighting.

00:21:45.000 He's still not quitting on behalf of the American people and the changes we need.

00:21:49.000 And there's always a problem when you ever have leadership express a viewpoint that is wildly out of touch with where the majority of the conference is.

00:21:57.000 And I could tell you there was never a moment where you had a critical mass of Republicans believing that Donald Trump either would or should resign.

00:22:06.000 But the second problem is that you have McCarthy making this very specific denial followed by audio that seems to contradict that denial.

00:22:17.000 And so that then doesn't become about the truth of the matter asserted.

00:22:21.000 It comes to bear around whether or not someone's statements are reliable in the future going forward.

00:22:29.000 We heard this from Kevin McCarthy when pressed on that specific subject in the last several days.

00:22:37.000 Congressman, have you spoken with President Trump recently?

00:22:40.000 Did you speak with him last night?

00:22:42.000 No, I spoke to him twice today.

00:22:43.000 I just spoke to him an hour ago.

00:22:45.000 How was your conversation?

00:22:47.000 Did you talk to him about the New York Times report and the conversation you had about...

00:22:53.000 Oh, the conversation is very good because the conversation here is what they said we did, we never did.

00:23:00.000 I mean, I've never asked President Trump to resign.

00:23:03.000 We both talked about that.

00:23:05.000 You spoke with him about resigning?

00:23:07.000 No, let me be very clear.

00:23:09.000 I have never asked the president to resign.

00:23:12.000 So what the book said was not true.

00:23:16.000 I never asked the president to resign.

00:23:19.000 So I guess the spin there is that Leader McCarthy believed that Trump should resign, but never said to Trump that he should resign, even though he was telling other members of the leadership team that he was going to say that to President Trump.

00:23:34.000 What do we make of all this?

00:23:36.000 Well, I was just, when I was thinking about it, I was remembering when all that happened, I think, I remember just boldly defending President Trump because I know that's how the people felt.

00:23:48.000 And I remember you were doing the same thing.

00:23:50.000 There was only a few of us that jumped out like right in front right away because we knew he didn't plan it.

00:23:56.000 We knew he had nothing to do with it.

00:23:57.000 None of us knew that was going to happen.

00:23:59.000 We were shocked and we were upset, remember?

00:24:02.000 It stopped our ability to object.

00:24:05.000 People were accusing Lauren Boebert of leading, like, reconnaissance tours.

00:24:08.000 What, with her children?

00:24:10.000 Right.

00:24:10.000 And they were accusing you of laying pipe bombs.

00:24:13.000 And here's what people don't know.

00:24:14.000 The reason Marjorie Taylor Greene has a total alibi from the pipe bomb thing is that I have never seen this woman in a hoodie.

00:24:21.000 We travel all around the country together, and I don't even think you own a hoodie.

00:24:24.000 I don't think you'd be caught dead in a hoodie.

00:24:25.000 You don't have to respond to that, just my sense, my read of the facts.

00:24:28.000 But we were out doing those things.

00:24:31.000 And did you sense that there was ever a critical mass of Republicans who believed that Trump should have resigned?

00:24:37.000 No, the people didn't.

00:24:39.000 The people were, I mean, still are solidly behind President Trump.

00:24:45.000 And I remember we were boldly saying that, and there were, you know, folks here that were just falling apart because they were being pressed by the media.

00:24:53.000 They've been here too long.

00:24:54.000 They don't know how to function.

00:24:56.000 They forget how real people feel.

00:24:58.000 But by us boldly saying how much we support President Trump, we're standing with him, and all of this, and fighting impeachment, well, there was a turnaround, wasn't there?

00:25:08.000 Yeah.

00:25:08.000 And we saw a turnaround from those that thought they needed to say things against him.

00:25:12.000 And you know what?

00:25:13.000 We should always invite people to join us if they have a change of view.

00:25:17.000 Maybe they saw some of the arguments we were making.

00:25:20.000 And I don't think that has to be a reason to bash anyone or any leader.

00:25:23.000 I don't think it's disqualifying for someone to change their mind and come to the view that we held.

00:25:28.000 Absolutely.

00:25:29.000 And I am concerned, and we haven't had any tapes on this, I am concerned of reports that Leader McCarthy would say that people like Lauren Boebert need to be removed from Twitter.

00:25:39.000 I worry about that greatly, but I don't just believe anything written in the New York Times.

00:25:44.000 So on the issue of whether or not he called for other people to be removed from Twitter, if he says that didn't happen, you know, it's his word against the New York Times, and I don't believe the New York Times.

00:25:55.000 I know that they lie about us.

00:25:56.000 Absolutely.

00:25:56.000 I will very seriously say I would hope that no one in leadership in our party or in our party period would call for another member of Congress to be removed from social media.

00:26:07.000 What would be the consequences if that's true?

00:26:09.000 That is a complete violation of our freedom of speech.

00:26:13.000 Would it be disqualifying for a leader of our conference?

00:26:15.000 Well, I'll tell you why I have a particular concern.

00:26:17.000 I hope that none of that is true because I lost my Twitter account and I don't think it was COVID misinformation, Matt.

00:26:25.000 Well, I think it's that it was probably too much truth you were saying that some people didn't like.

00:26:31.000 Some people didn't like it, but I sure don't want to think that anybody here in this place has anything to do with anyone losing their social media accounts because our job is to protect the First Amendment.

00:26:44.000 I don't even want the Democrats to lose their social media accounts.

00:26:47.000 No, I don't want them to either.

00:26:48.000 I don't even want the Taliban to lose their social media accounts. 1.00

00:26:49.000 I love the stupid things they say. 0.99

00:26:50.000 Yeah, I mean, I just think that, like, I am not afraid that a tweet is some dangerous thing. 1.00

00:26:55.000 Maybe one day we'll all come together and actually work for the people of this country and protect our country.

00:27:00.000 Maybe we'll all agree one day.

00:27:01.000 I'd love to see that happen.

00:27:03.000 The Sunday shows discuss this, as you might imagine, and we came up in a couple of those circumstances.

00:27:09.000 This will be ABC This Week and Fox News Sunday.

00:27:13.000 Take a listen.

00:27:14.000 Give us the long view on the impact of this leak, both for McCarthy and for House Republicans.

00:27:22.000 Well, I think it's a blip.

00:27:24.000 I don't think it's going to be consequential in the long term.

00:27:27.000 McCarthy has very strong ties among most of the elements of the Republican conference.

00:27:33.000 There may be a few dissidents, the sort of Matt Geitz, Marjorie Taylor Greene wing of the party, which seems to consist of basically two people.

00:27:41.000 But I don't think this is going to be a significant blip.

00:27:44.000 Kevin McCarthy is afraid of Trump.

00:27:46.000 He needs Trump in order to become Speaker of the House.

00:27:49.000 And he's afraid of turning off his base.

00:27:53.000 I think the real part of that conversation that came out this week that we should all be talking about is what he said about his members.

00:28:00.000 He said they should be taking off social media.

00:28:03.000 Now, I don't know what the prosecutor will say about that, but I can tell you what the partisan political person will say about that.

00:28:08.000 Tell me that, you know, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert and others are not upset that Kevin McCarthy insinuated that they should be, you know, taken off Twitter and Facebook.

00:28:22.000 And right after that, Chris Christie reflected that, well, he didn't need our votes anyway.

00:28:27.000 Do you think that there's a coalition That can lead a Republican conference and a Republican majority that is able to just ignore and cast aside those of us who are a little more outspoken on things.

00:28:41.000 I want to tell you about Karl Rove.

00:28:44.000 Karl Rove's wing of the party is the failure part of our party.

00:28:48.000 They're very much the operating component that led us into never-ending foreign wars.

00:28:57.000 That killed American soldiers, brought them home missing limbs, gave them PTSD, gave them addiction to narcotics and medications that led to addiction to meth, that led to addiction to heroin, that just destroyed people's lives.

00:29:12.000 Their wing of the party led us to this massive debt the American people are in.

00:29:17.000 Their wing of the party sent our jobs overseas.

00:29:19.000 Their wing of the party is the complete failure that exists here in this town, Matt.

00:29:24.000 And nobody cares what Karl Rove has to say.

00:29:26.000 Everyone cares about what you have to say.

00:29:29.000 People care about what I have to say.

00:29:30.000 People care about what Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States, has to say.

00:29:35.000 People care about our wing of the party, but you want to know why?

00:29:38.000 Our voters are our wing of the party, the vast majority of them. 0.99

00:29:42.000 So Karl Rove can go kiss my ass, because I could care less what he has to say about any of us, and he's dead wrong. 0.99

00:29:49.000 He's disconnected, and shame on Fox News for constantly having him on there. 0.99

00:29:53.000 Well, I do not believe that there is a single Republican running in a single primary in America that would rather stand on stage with Karl Rove or Chris Christie than Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.

00:30:05.000 You know, the proof's in the pudding.

00:30:07.000 Actually, bring them on.

00:30:08.000 I would love to debate them.

00:30:10.000 We should have a debate with Karl Rove and Chris Christie, you and I. I'm for it.

00:30:16.000 You know what?

00:30:17.000 We'll do it on Fox or on ABC. Either one.

00:30:20.000 We'll go to you guys.

00:30:21.000 With our track record, ABC would have it before Fox, maybe.

00:30:25.000 Maybe.

00:30:26.000 I don't know.

00:30:27.000 I'd love to be surprised.

00:30:28.000 I would love it.

00:30:29.000 Well, and I think more importantly, the shaping of our party is not just a difference in style.

00:30:36.000 And I think that the Chris Christie's and Karl Rove would say, well, because we have stylistic differences than the traditional ways of Washington, we should be ignored.

00:30:45.000 But the reality is, on the policies that you just laid out, with a more focused foreign policy, with a view of the American worker that is an ambitious one and a supportive one, the border...

00:30:58.000 I mean, we are in a position that a lot of these rhinos are not. 1.00

00:31:03.000 And I think that the energy is with us.

00:31:05.000 And you know what?

00:31:06.000 There might be more of them inside the beltway of Washington, D.C., but there's more of them that are like us, that are going to be voting in these primaries that run from now through September.

00:31:15.000 So the proof will be in the pudding, and it's my expectation that we'll continue to have a great way to shape that discussion.

00:31:21.000 One discussion that you led, you were the first one, was on the Fire-Fauci Act.

00:31:26.000 And I was struck It was perfectly logical for the CDC to say, wait a minute, we were planning on ending this mandate on a certain date.

00:31:43.000 Let's wait a period of time until May 3rd, which was a very sound public health decision.

00:31:50.000 So for a court to come in and interfere in that is really unfortunate.

00:31:55.000 It's unfortunate because it's against public health principles, number one.

00:31:59.000 And number two is because that's no place for the courts to do that.

00:32:03.000 This is a CDC decision, and that's very bad precedent when you have courts making a decision and looking at what the basis of the decision was.

00:32:12.000 It was not sound.

00:32:14.000 So it goes, Fauci, God, and then somewhere below that, the courts.

00:32:18.000 So we live in a world where they're trying to use the courts to kick you off the ballot and not allow your voters the opportunity to choose you or to choose a different candidate, and yet they think that the courts have no role in reviewing something so long as the great wizards of public health decide that that's what the control is that they want to have over us.

00:32:41.000 Shouldn't Americans be more worried about someone with this much power just blatantly expressing a view that is neo-fascist?

00:32:48.000 Everyone is worried and that's why they hate him.

00:32:51.000 You know, he talks about a court intervening.

00:32:54.000 You know who intervened and ruined people's lives?

00:32:57.000 Our government.

00:32:58.000 Our government intervened with their tyrannical shutdowns that ruined our children's education for two years.

00:33:04.000 That killed our grandparents in nursing homes, caused people to die alone without their family, caused my father not to go to the doctor and get a cancer diagnosis because he and my mom were afraid to go out of the house because of the dreaded COVID-19 that Dr. Fauci's gain of function research led to creating.

00:33:23.000 You know, Dr. Fauci has a lot of nerve saying something like that right there, especially after he led the effort That shut down small businesses.

00:33:32.000 That pushed people at home into depression and suicide by themselves.

00:33:37.000 That still has people running around.

00:33:39.000 Perfectly young people.

00:33:40.000 I mean, I see them all the time. 1.00

00:33:41.000 Healthy young people, but they're still wearing a mask because they've been brainwashed by the stupid television. 0.99

00:33:47.000 And Dr. Fauci and everyone else, that they have to wear masks. 0.99

00:33:50.000 Oh, and that masking is caring.

00:33:53.000 Masking is, that is insanity.

00:33:55.000 All of this insanity came from Dr. Fauci's power trip We're good to go.

00:34:24.000 Right.

00:34:24.000 So these people who want to cast us in the role of these, like, dangerous authoritarians are trying to throw you off the ballot despite the wishes of your voters.

00:34:33.000 And they're trying to say that Anthony Fauci somehow rests in some place above the U.S. judicial system so long as there's a public health nexus to the government's desire to get power.

00:34:44.000 So don't fall for it this week.

00:34:46.000 There's going to be a lot going on.

00:34:48.000 Marjorie, how can folks follow you and stay up with your work this week in the Congress?

00:34:52.000 And what's at the top of your desk before we get out of here and get back to work?

00:34:55.000 Oh, RepMTG is my Twitter handle.

00:34:59.000 MTG, look for that.

00:35:01.000 Any verified account on all the social media platforms, that's me.

00:35:04.000 Don't follow the non-verifieds. 0.71

00:35:05.000 Those are...

00:35:06.000 The fake ones.

00:35:08.000 Also, my website is green.house.gov.

00:35:14.000 You can see a lot of my bills there, a lot of my work.

00:35:16.000 You can also read the report that is on my website about the January 6th pre-trial defendants.

00:35:24.000 And it is still shocking and we are still working on getting a date, waiting on Mayor Muriel Bowser-Matt to give us a date to go take our trip back to the D.C. jail and go Check on conditions there in the pre-trial January 6th defendants that are rotting away.

00:35:40.000 While Antifa BLM rioters enjoy freedom and still enjoy that fact that Kamala Harris and Ilhan Omar bailed them out of jail by sharing the Minnesota Freedom Fund link.

00:35:51.000 Every week she is working on this.

00:35:54.000 Every week she is fighting for civil rights for folks and ensuring that there is due process and fairness.

00:36:00.000 We're not these people's lawyers, but we do have an oversight responsibility as members of Congress, and you take it as seriously as any.

00:36:08.000 The unstoppable Marjorie Taylor Greene, thanks for being back on Firebrand Live.

00:36:12.000 Let's go have a great week in the Congress.

00:36:14.000 Sounds good.

Firebrand - Matt Gaetz - April 26, 2022

Episode 38 LIVE: Leaders & Liars (feat. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene) – Firebrand with Matt Gaetz

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