On this episode of Firebrand Live, we have breaking news out of Washington, D.C. on the January 6th, 2021 break-in at the U.S. Capitol by a Republican candidate for Governor of Michigan, Ryan Kelly, and we have an update on the Johnny Depp and Julian Assange hearings. We also cover the failures at Evaldi and the red flag laws the Congress is trying to pass. And we have a special guest on the show today, Dr. Darren Beattie of Revolver News, who joins us to talk about the latest in the Depp/Assange/Pompeo saga and much, much more! Firebrand LIVE is a production of the Firebrand Media Podcast Network. Copyright 2019, FirebrandMedia.net All Rights Reserved. This episode was produced and edited by Firebrand.net. The opinions stated here are our own, not those of our companies, unless otherwise stated. We do not own any of the rights to any of our content. If you have any thoughts or suggestions regarding a particular topic discussed in this episode, please contact us at hollywood@whatiwatched.fm/firebrandmedia or we'll get them in touch. Thank you for any amount you can manage - we appreciate the support. - Thank you, Matt, for all the support you've shown so far! - Dylan, for the work you've done for this podcast, and the support we've gotten so far this year, for this year's podcast and our efforts to make this podcast and podcasting efforts. - we're looking forward to 2020 and beyond 2020. Thank you. - Matt Gaetz, for supporting the podcast in 2020. -- we'll see you next year! -- Thank you so much! -- Dylan, Josh, for your support, for his support, and for his time, for being a good friend of the podcast and all the work he's done so far so far, for making this podcasting, we're going to make 2020 2020! -- we're making 2020 2020 2020, thank you! -- and we'll be back in 2020, we'll have a full year of podcasting in 2020! -- and 2020 2020 is coming soon! -- -- - we hope you'll join us in 2020 and 2020, and 2020 is going to be even better than 2019, we will be better than last year's 2020, 2020, next year, and beyond!
00:04:46.000Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
00:04:53.000Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem for the Democratic Party.
00:04:56.000He could cause a lot of hiccups in passing applause.
00:04:59.000So we're going to keep running those stories to get hurt again.
00:05:03.000If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots!
00:05:39.000We are simulcast streaming out of our office in the Longworth Building here on the Capitol Complex in Washington, D.C. We've got the publisher of Revolver.News, Dr. Darren Beattie, with us.
00:05:52.000We're going to break down a number of very hot stories on Revolver, updates on Assange and Pompeo, whether or not the Johnny Depp trial We're going to go over the failures at Evaldi, the bad laws the Congress is working to pass even with a significant vote today on red flag laws that we certainly are opposed to and want to break down.
00:06:18.000And we got the haters active on the Facebook live stream.
00:06:22.000Ryan Gill says, has anyone ever told me that my head is too big for my body?
00:07:34.000The criminal complaint listed four charges against Kelly, knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, knowingly engaging in an act of physical violence against a person or property in a restricted building or grounds, and willfully injuring or committing depredation against any property of the United States.
00:07:58.000An FBI agent's affidavit noted the Bureau received, quote, That Kelly had been at the Capitol on January 6th, including one just 10 days after the attack.
00:08:09.000One of the people who identified Kelly was a confidential human source who'd been working with the FBI since 2020, quote, to provide information about domestic terrorism groups in Michigan, close quote.
00:08:25.000The source allegedly spotted Kelly on a news media video.
00:08:29.000Here is the background of the political context of this arrest.
00:08:33.000We get this from Grant Hermes, a politics reporter at Local 4 Detroit, that actually Kelly was the leading Republican for the upcoming primary, one of five candidates knocking down about 19% of the vote according to this political report from Detroit.
00:08:51.000And we are 54 days from the August 2nd Republican gubernatorial primary in Michigan.
00:09:00.000Now, 45 days is really the FBI standard, DOJ standard for not engaging in law enforcement activity that is intended to impact the outcome of an election.
00:09:14.000So just outside of that 45 days, nine days outside of it, the day that the Democrats are planning their January 6th rollout hearing endeavor, You get a raid and an arrest of the leading Republican in Michigan and it's never been bad when we've relied on the confidential sources in Michigan reviewing domestic terrorism, right?
00:09:41.000There was the Gretchen Whitmer faux kidnapping debacle where the FBI inspired the kidnapping, encouraged others to reduce the thoughts that had been really inspired by the FBI assets and agents to writing.
00:09:57.000It resulted in nobody being convicted in that matter that went to trial.
00:10:01.000It resulted in, I think, a real black eye for federal law enforcement engaging in a plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.
00:10:10.000And now you have sort of the remnants of that strategy manifesting in this affidavit resulting in the arrest of the leading Republican candidate.
00:10:21.000Dr. Darren Beattie, how should we think about this?
00:10:25.000Well, it's remarkable on a number of levels.
00:10:28.000First of all, I'm just learning about this now, and so my analysis might develop as I learn more about it, but from my initial review of this story, it's first interesting to see exactly what they're charging with.
00:10:45.000He didn't go into the Capitol, so it's one of these trespassing issues on the grounds, and he was allegedly kind of Maybe suggesting that people move to a certain area and these kinds of things.
00:11:00.000Kind of flimsy charges which, again, are really nothing compared to the behavior caught on camera with respect to the infamous Ray Epps and the still-identified Scaffold Commander and these other absolutely major players And
00:12:00.000And so Ron on Facebook asks, well, is this typical for a misdemeanor to have such a provocative use of law enforcement when typically for a misdemeanor you simply ask someone to surrender themselves and they willingly do so?
00:12:14.000Do you think that there's a theater element potentially that we have to look at that sort of extends out from the theater around the Roger Stone arrest?
00:12:25.000There's definitely fear and there are really two components of it.
00:12:29.000One is, who are the people who are actually the big fish and major players that they have zero interest in?
00:12:35.000In fact, the very people who act like this Michigan candidate and others who committed misdemeanor offenses and even lesser offenses, that these people are serious domestic terrorists.
00:12:50.000The same people who have that posture like Kinsinger, like Liz Cheney, Basically, uniquely suspend that aggressive, severe posture with respect to Ray Epps and others.
00:13:01.000Epps being the only person caught on camera repeatedly telling people to go into the Capitol, who was there at that decisive initial breach of the Capitol grounds with the fencing that allowed the rally to turn into a riot.
00:13:16.000For this individual and for scaffold commander specifically, covered extensively in our reporting, there's no interest.
00:13:23.000And so that's who they're not interested in.
00:13:25.000Who they are interested in tends to be just kind of bit players, people who are just loitering around doing basically nothing too bad, but especially people who are involved in the political process.
00:13:39.000And we've seen this beyond this Michigan case.
00:13:41.000We've seen still more outrageous ways that the regime has exploited January 6th to go after its political enemies with reference to Madison Cawthorn, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and others, and ultimately Trump.
00:13:58.000I mean, recent developments in the January 6th trials, the seditious conspiracy cases against Rhodes and Tario, this is completing the picture advanced by the January 6th committee chair, Benny Thompson, who has this quote unquote, Ali Youp theory of Benny Thompson, who has this quote unquote, Ali Youp theory of the case whereby various people in Trump's inner circle played a decisive role in this so-called conspiracy to go into the
00:14:27.000So this is really about kneecapping the GOP and especially the populist sort of Trump adjacent element of the GOP, kneecapping that movement so it has minimal success electorally as the midterms approach.
00:14:46.000Dr. Darren Beattie is the publisher of Revolver.News.
00:14:48.000That's where you can find the most thorough investigative reporting on the people who were animating and inspiring the highest acuity of criminal activity on January 6th.
00:14:59.000There remain a number of key questions that we've asked the FBI, that we've asked the January 6th committee about people like Ray Epps and Scaffold Commander and Ski Mask Guy, the very people that were cutting down the fences that may have resulted in people inadvertently being in technical violation of federal law, but in fact having the very people that were cutting down the fences that may have resulted in people inadvertently being in technical violation of Tonight is the big reveal.
00:15:24.000It is the last best hope for the Raskinites and the Cheneistas and the Schiff Brigade to be able to get the country to focus on January 6, 2021, so that every day is January 6, 2021.
00:15:39.000And yet you also at Revolver.News have covered this FBI botched plot to entrap people into a kidnapping plot of the governor of Michigan. Darren, is there any chance that it is a coincidence that on the day of this big reveal of the last best hope, you have this law enforcement activity in Michigan directed at the leading Republican candidate for governor?
00:16:05.000No, there's no chance that it's a coincidence.
00:16:24.000And it's nice the way you describe it, because they present this as a bipartisan committee when it's a bipartisan committee in the sense that it has a bunch of Democrats who hate Trump and his supporters, and it has two Republicans who hate Trump and his supporters.
00:16:38.000And that's the bipartisan committee that they've established.
00:16:42.000But no, I think there's actually waning public interest in this.
00:16:48.000I don't know if They depend on public interest in order to be successful, but I really doubt they create any kind of viral I never underestimate my enemy, and I know they failed so many times.
00:17:05.000They seem to get a little better each time, incorporating multimedia, trying to build narrative, curate leaks, have a willing media ready to spread their lies.
00:17:14.000So I don't know that I share your optimism in their failure.
00:17:18.000I think actually they may We may see the best version of them and certainly the most vicious and one of the best prepared.
00:17:25.000On the live stream right now, we've got Adam Anderson.
00:17:29.000When will you start fighting for a convention of the states?
00:17:32.000I was the sponsor of the legislation that had Florida join the convention of the states.
00:17:37.000I believe there should be a convention of the states to ensure that we have a balanced budget amendment.
00:17:41.000And that we have federal term limits for Congress.
00:17:43.000But one thing that I don't want to negotiate away, our Second Amendment.
00:17:47.000And in the Capitol today, the Second Amendment has been under attack.
00:17:51.000Breaking news just now, just before we stepped into this discussion.
00:17:55.000The House of Representatives has passed a national red flag law.
00:18:00.000Every Democrat voted for that national red flag law.
00:18:04.000And they were joined by Republicans Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, and Fred Upton From Michigan.
00:18:15.000So an interesting group of five Republicans supporting these red flag laws.
00:18:20.000Four people who voted for impeachment and one who, after his opposition to the Second Amendment was expressed, dropped out of his own reelection in the Buffalo, New York area.
00:18:31.000So when they send Republicans to take away our Second Amendment rights, they aren't exactly sending their best and they are sending I made that point on the floor of the House moments ago.
00:18:54.000If House Democrats were so worried about violence, they wouldn't open the borders, open the prisons, and then disarm law-abiding Americans who want to protect themselves and protect their families.
00:19:05.000Chairman Nadler says that Republicans shouldn't lecture about constitutional rights, but it was the last Democrat Speaker, Mr. Cicilline, who in the House Judiciary Committee said, spare me the bullshit about people's constitutional rights.
00:19:19.000So pardon us, for standing up for the Constitution in the very due process that ensures that we're able to have a civil functioning society in this country.
00:19:28.000Speaker Pelosi asks the question, well if you knew when the next act of violence would be, why wouldn't you want to stop it?
00:19:37.000What is this, the United States Congress or the plot for the movie Minority Report?
00:19:41.000The best you could ever hope to have in terms of warning is what we had in the Parkland case, where a neighbor saw Nicholas Cruz preparing for a school shooting, called the FBI, and because they were so focused on the bureaucracy, they didn't take action.
00:19:56.000And so that's why I'm against federalizing the regular police and it's why I'm against federalizing the school police because the more the FBI was involved, the more they botched the case and maybe there were people dead who didn't need to be.
00:20:10.000These red flag laws violate our Second Amendment rights, our Fifth Amendment rights, and when they are done at the national level, they violate our Tenth Amendment rights.
00:20:18.000And it is crazy that we are considering legislation to bribe the states to take rights away from our fellow Americans.
00:20:26.000And it's nuts that Republicans in the Senate The very Republicans who say they're the classic liberty-minded conservatives, they're now working with Democrats on this very endeavor to federalize the school police and to engage in this bribery for the sake of deprivation of rights.
00:20:43.000Let me give you this warning, my friends.
00:20:45.000It is no victory, as Mr. Carbajal said, that in my beloved Florida, we've used red flag laws 8,000 times.
00:20:52.000There weren't 8,000 school shooters we stopped, probably not even 8,000 criminals.
00:20:57.000What we do see is that these red flag laws are used in divorce proceedings.
00:21:02.000They're used in every type of dispute.
00:21:03.000And it shouldn't be a cudgel that way.
00:21:11.000I was then subsequently admonished for using profanity on the House floor, but I was quoting someone else.
00:21:17.000Dr. Beattie, we see on Revolver News, you've got the piece up, the Texas school shooting is proof our society is crumbling into an existential crisis.
00:21:26.000Does that existential crisis require red flag laws?
00:21:35.000Pretty radical self-reflection with respect to mental health in this country, with respect to the social fabric and also maybe with respect to the priorities of our own intelligence apparatus which should probably focus less on penalizing normal Americans who want to express totally valid and mainstream political beliefs and maybe they should focus more on Identifying and
00:22:05.000when disturbed people like this are identified to preventing them from engaging in these kinds of horrific displays of violence.
00:22:16.000Nancy Pelosi always likes to say that she's on a crusade for the children.
00:22:19.000This is all about the children, and yet they have no problem with masking policies and mandates that limit the social-emotional development of children when they need to gain empathy for others.
00:22:34.000And in this piece in Revolver that talks about the existential crisis, you go through the fact that we got a quarter of Young people living in single-parent homes, and I know there are many heroes right now as single parents that are doing the best they can and that are doing a good job instilling strong American values in their children.
00:22:54.000But you also talk about this feature of loneliness in the piece, that there is a Sort of a government-backed mandate of loneliness that occurred during these lockdowns.
00:23:04.000Do you think that no matter what we do with guns, what we've done to our society may increase the frequency of this violence going forward?
00:23:14.000And first of all, I should say that this is actually a guest piece.
00:23:17.000A first piece by someone called Ramsha...
00:23:23.000Afridi and so shout out to her for this excellent piece and I think yes the loneliness these social conditions are absolutely a factor and as we cover in Revolver's piece on this is also you know people are blaming the cops which in you know was very valid for their inaction and some might even say cowardice here luckily there was a heroic I'm not a border patrol guy who stepped in
00:23:53.000and helped, but the performance of the police department here was an egregious and really devastatingly Embarrassing failure for the department.
00:24:12.000And the question is, what's wrong with these people?
00:24:19.000We can blame everything associated with that.
00:24:21.000But we also have to look at what types of virtues society is encouraging.
00:24:26.000And basically, you have this one-two punch where anyone, any display of courage, especially by a man in these sorts of Kind of chaotic civil situations is just as liable to be punished as it is to be celebrated.
00:24:44.000And so in order to have a society in which You know, men display the virtue of courage, especially in these types of situations.
00:24:55.000You have to have the preconditions for that.
00:24:58.000And so many cultural factors that have been intensifying over the past several years have severely undermined those preconditions for the displays of cowardice that society really needs and should expect in tragic situations such as this shooting.
00:25:18.000Dr. Beattie is describing the thesis of a piece up at Revolver now.
00:25:22.000Let's go ahead and go to that headline.
00:25:25.000The cowardice of Evaldi police is exactly what America asked for.
00:25:31.000And there's an excerpt from this piece I want to get across.
00:25:36.000Across America, police routinely retire at age 55 or even younger.
00:25:41.000In much of the country, they receive generous pensions upon retirement.
00:25:45.000In nearby Austin, a policeman who retires after 30 years of service will receive 75% of their base pay every year until death.
00:25:53.000The reason policemen are pushed out of work at an early age and the reason they were awarded such generous pensions far above the typical Social Security benefit is because we trust them to risk their lives protecting others.
00:26:08.000Yet America has largely abandoned that expectation.
00:26:13.000Why have we abandoned that expectation, Dr. Beattie?
00:26:17.000Well, for some of the reasons I've described, you're just as likely, the kinds of, put it this way, when I talk about the preconditions, the type of person who would be inclined to risk themselves in that situation is not the type of person who's necessarily going to be celebrated and elevated.
00:26:39.000In the contemporary cultural environment.
00:26:42.000And in fact, I think it's equally likely and maybe more likely that such a person would be weeded out of the department or simply be so turned off by the prevailing cultural attitudes within that prevail within the department.
00:27:00.000That they wouldn't even want to participate.
00:27:02.000And so you have to think of factors like that.
00:27:05.000We say that we want courage and self-sacrifice in situations like these, but are the types of people who would actually Would actually behave in that fashion.
00:27:20.000Are those the kinds of people that we celebrate in a, you know, holistic context?
00:27:26.000And I think the answer to that is no, especially when it comes to police officers who, as you know, have been demonized in all sorts of contexts.
00:27:37.000And that has a tremendous effect on not only the type of person who wants to be involved in that profession, but the way that people behave once they're in the profession.
00:27:47.000David Allen on Facebook says, F all of you.
00:27:50.000All of you guys need to go down in flames.
00:27:53.000So David is obviously having a terrific day.
00:27:55.000And we also hear from James saying criminals are not going to care about this red flag bill.
00:28:04.000But the point you make, Dr. Beattie, about maybe some eroding capabilities where we otherwise could have relied upon them.
00:28:12.000That seems to increase the importance of the force multiplier that comes with a good guy with a gun.
00:28:20.000In Florida, we have a Sentinel program.
00:28:22.000I think more than 45 of our 67 counties participate in it, where if you have specialized training, former law enforcement, former military types, you can actually have part of your community be that force multiplier in the education setting so that our schools are not soft targets. you can actually have part of your community be that This is an issue that I think is best set out at the state level, and it has created some divide among Republicans in Congress.
00:28:50.000So there is a procedural mechanism called the motion to recommit, where essentially the minority can present...
00:28:56.000Not just a no vote on a piece of legislation or moving on to that bill, but can present an alternative piece of legislation.
00:29:04.000And here, I'm unequivocally opposed to the gun control package the Democrats put forward, unequivocally opposed to red flag laws, but the Republican alternative was a series of grants from the federal government to states and school districts for school resource officers, for school hardening, and the like.
00:29:23.000And I think Did not vote for that alternative because I don't think that we ought to federalize the school police.
00:29:30.000I don't believe that you want your local constable's office or your local sheriff's office entirely dependent upon federal grants because before you know it, There'll be some rule promulgated and that law enforcement officer there as a consequence of a federal grant is not going to be able to walk across the transom in the school without announcing their pronouns in advance.
00:29:53.000So do you think Republicans get it wrong when our reflexive response to some of these horrific acts of violence is to excessively entangle the federal government in what ought to be state police powers?
00:30:08.000And in fact, I'd have to say that I think most of the proposals put forward at best don't do anything and in many cases could actually make the general situation worse.
00:30:22.000And I think that's the case when it comes to further aggrandizing and empowering federal forces as opposed to local.
00:30:32.000I don't think it's a federal local issue.
00:30:34.000It's an issue that's sort of deeper than that.
00:30:37.000And also I'd like to point out that Just at the time that we're seeing increasing incompetence when it comes to law enforcement officials on maybe both levels, local and federal, you're seeing the aggressive demonization of so-called vigilantism.
00:31:02.000I mean, Nancy Pelosi said every Republican is a cult member.
00:31:06.000So aren't they trying to say, they're trying to highlight very minimal acts of vigilantism in some areas that we certainly all want to stop, but then they want to cast that as an aspersion onto everyone who voted for Trump or has an America First hashtag.
00:31:22.000Well, at the same time as we're seeing this incompetence, we're seeing such an aggressive Policing and aggressive hostility toward vigilantism.
00:31:35.000You see it in the response to somebody like Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:31:40.000And this gets to a core of people who say, yes, the Second Amendment is important, but, you know, Second Amendment isn't just about, oh, whether you're able to, like, Purchase an AR-15 and take a photo of it for Instagram with an American flag in the background and just leave it at that.
00:31:59.000The Second Amendment is, in effect, neutered, impotent, and worthless if, in practice, you're not able to use it in a self-defense situation.
00:32:15.000If anyone who uses a firearm or self-defense situation gets the Kyle Rittenhouse treatment, or even the McCloskey treatment, then we don't really have a Second Amendment.
00:32:30.000The Second Amendment types don't really focus on that element enough.
00:32:36.000They're focused on, oh, can we, you know, How many bullets can we have in this magazine?
00:32:42.000Or can we have this specific type of gun or not?
00:32:44.000Or what are the restrictions in acquiring a firearm?
00:32:47.000I'm not to say that those aren't important, but they're really moot if in practice you're not really able to use your firearm in a self dispense situation without the full force of the state and the media coming after you to destroy you.
00:33:02.000A fully vindicated Second Amendment is what we stand for.
00:33:06.000And if the Congress is to be doing anything, It would be vindicating the rights of our citizens when they're infringed upon by states or local governments that think that they have the final say on what are natural rights.
00:33:18.000George O'Neill says, if I have 50 guns and the government takes 40 away, how many do I have left?
00:33:28.000Because I lied about only having 50. They leave the gun conversation there because there's a certain arrogance that comes with policymakers who believe that the laws they pass have their own fiat.
00:33:43.000The citizenry and their ultimate final say on some of these questions.
00:33:48.000Dr. Beatty, on Revolver.News, you have highlighted a piece from Zero Hedge entitled, Spanish Court Orders Mike Pompeo to Testify on CIA Plot to Kill or Kidnap Assange.
00:34:04.000Well, we've been following this very closely and Revolver.News, since we're sort of I like to think we're at the forefront of exposing misbehavior on the part of the national security state and so we're very much in the sphere of WikiLeaks,
00:34:23.000even though we don't do the same thing, and I certainly hope I don't end up with the same fate as Assange, but I certainly have an affinity for him and what he's doing and for the absolutely outrageous treatment that he's received on behalf of the U.S. government and other entities.
00:34:43.000And the story came out a while ago that...
00:34:49.000Pompeo sort of denies it and so maybe it's not truth or the full truth but It certainly seems within the ballpark of ideas that were entertained along the lines of assassinating Assange, certainly spying on him, taking stuff from him.
00:35:08.000And Spanish court really wants to hear more about this.
00:35:12.000And Pompeo is allegedly a central figure in this, which would make sense given what his role was at the time.
00:35:18.000He's the head of the intelligence agency, head of the CIA and so forth.
00:35:23.000And so this is just something that we're tracking very closely because Assange is really, you know, for all the talk about how important journalists are, and what they mean by that is that journalists should be able to attack and smear and destroy people without any repercussions, without being criticized at all.
00:35:41.000And, you know, you can be a Washington Post reporter and smear people, but the second somebody questions your intelligence, your credentials, or your professionalism, That amounts to harassment that has to be treated like some great tragedy.
00:35:57.000That's what the regime means when they say journalists are important.
00:36:01.000But what it should actually mean is that people like Assange are important.
00:36:07.000And that it is a genuine threat to journalism.
00:36:11.000It's a genuine threat to the people learning the truth that they deserve to know about their own government to see what's happened to Assange.
00:36:19.000And so for that reason, I think it's something that everyone should care about.
00:36:23.000And just as a side part, the role that Pompeo may have played and, you know, kind of go out on a limb here.
00:36:29.000I know many of your listeners might disagree and that's fine, but I think despite the fact that he served in the Trump administration and he did some good things, in fact a lot of good things, Pompeo himself is an ambiguous figure I think with respect to the deep state and I think in many ways he does kind of toe the deep state line and this Assange storyline certainly confirms that aspect of
00:37:03.000Despite the spiciness of the headline, it does not appear that Mike Pompeo is going to be testifying anytime soon.
00:37:09.000There seem to be serious questions over whether or not they have the jurisdiction to force that testimony, but it's interesting that the questions are being asked.
00:37:17.000Dr. Beattie, you've got another big piece up at revolver.news.
00:37:21.000I thought America was done with Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.
00:37:30.000But you say that we must continue to relive this.
00:37:33.000How GOP legislatures can copy Johnny Depp and defang the lying press tomorrow with one simple trick.
00:37:41.000And in the piece, you write, Captain Jack Sparrow's big win is proof that America's courts remain a venue where Americans can defend their reputations and win justice for themselves without playing the ever-changing rules of a sinister and malicious media.
00:37:57.000And the legal argument that you make is that there are a number of categories that constitute defamation per se.
00:38:05.000That is, you don't have to prove that if people do these things to you that it is harmful, that they are so by very nature harmful that that element of the claim is met.
00:38:16.000Things like alleging a person is involved in criminal activity if they're not, claiming a person is unethical, incompetent, Claiming that they contain some sort of loathsome disease, has engaged in sexual misconduct, and your argument is that this list needs to expand throughout the several states to include the type of doxing that has often ruined lives.
00:38:45.000Yeah, so first of all, we like the spoonful of sugar and the medicine at Revolver.News, and we thought, given that amazingly, or maybe not amazingly, but the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial exceeded by far Any of the things that we, you know, Ukraine, all of that, it exceeded everything in terms of media coverage and interest.
00:39:09.000It was the hottest thing in the news cycle for the American people.
00:39:15.000And so we thought, hey, that's the spoonful of sugar.
00:39:19.000But the medicine is very important medicine.
00:39:22.000The medicine is something that could be a genuine game changer in terms of the Journalists, precisely the journalists I was talking about before who think they can ruin people's lives and the second they're attacked at some kind of great tragedy, to engage in a specific type of smear journalism.
00:39:41.000And that's, I mean, I think you've been subject to it a little bit.
00:40:08.000And a lot of people wonder whether or not the courts are an appropriate area.
00:40:11.000You seem to be you seem to be a cheerleader for state court actions.
00:40:16.000Well, I think there's there's a really interesting thought out exercise to be conducted.
00:40:22.000One could say that there shouldn't be any kind of, you know, one could have a general critique of defamation laws.
00:40:28.000Mine is more of a kind of comparative observation.
00:40:32.000If we're going to have categories that fall under defamatory per se, that means that they're considered such a severe tack on one's reputation that you don't have to prove damages, you don't have to prove anything else.
00:40:45.000It's simply the nature of the accusation is so severe that it's considered per se defamatory.
00:40:52.000And the categories that currently are considered defamatory per se are really categories that have Fairly minimal reputational damage, certainly compared to accusations like racism, white nationalism.
00:41:07.000For instance, one of the categories this defamatory for say is to question a woman's, not anyone's, to question a woman's chastity.
00:41:17.000Now, the idea that in 2022, the era of slut pride parades and all of these things that questioning a woman's chastity is a incurs greater reputational damage than the media smearing somebody as a racist the era of slut pride parades and all of these things that questioning a woman's The entire, especially when the entire legal architecture, and we've covered this in Revolver News and other pieces,
00:41:46.000the entire legal architecture post civil rights with the implementation of disparate impact is oriented around the premise that racism, quote unquote, the entire legal architecture post civil rights with the implementation of disparate impact is oriented around It is There's a great book called Glass Jaw, and I forget the author, but it's from a PR professional.
00:42:07.000It's an absolutely fascinating book, and he goes into a lot of high-profile cases.
00:42:12.000He was involved in doing crisis management for all types of companies, celebrities, prominent figures in all different types of circumstances.
00:42:20.000And even this guy acknowledges the one thing, the one type of PR mess that is almost impossible to clean up is the PR mess of racism.
00:42:28.000It's just too damaging and that's the way it is.
00:42:34.000It's the worst possible thing that you could be in contemporary American society and all of the dominant institutions Are really animated by that notion.
00:42:47.000But isn't that why these changes in the law won't occur?
00:42:50.000Because it's become such a valuable tool of the media and the left, and frankly, even the establishment right, to try to get rid of people that are challenging a prevailing narrative to call them racists.
00:43:02.000They would never want special protections in the state law because they don't want to be especially cautious about that.
00:43:08.000But on the flip side, that's why, if achieved, this would be a game changer.
00:43:15.000And the fact that it could occur at the state level through state legislatures means that it could be a promising approach in some states.
00:43:23.000And furthermore, I should point out, it really illuminates some of the nature of the power of these accusations of racism, white nationalism, because nobody knows what those mean.
00:43:33.000In fact, they derive a lot of their power from its ambiguity.
00:43:38.000And so to reorient defamation law to consider these more as factual accusations, and therefore they need to be subject to more sort of operational definitions and more precisely defined, that could also defang these effects.
00:43:54.000So say, okay, you call me a white nationalism, what specifically does that mean?
00:43:58.000Because now all it means is that The regime media doesn't like you for whatever reason.
00:44:04.000And so I think it's just a very interesting exercise.
00:44:11.000Most people don't know this, but this goes to the core of how the hit piece media can destroy people but also intimidate people because, frankly, and it's unfortunate, but a lot of people are terrified of the media and Their behavior is conditioned by the fact that they want to avoid precisely these kinds of damaging attacks.
00:44:33.000So it would be an absolute blow to the power of the regime to kneel on the necks of its enemies, so to speak.
00:44:42.000The world, according to Dr. Beattie, you cannot have your slut pride parades and your gender-based chastity protections and defamation law, while at the same time being able to call people racists with impunity.
00:44:54.000Brian Stork on the livestream says, Darren Beattie is a honey badger.
00:45:00.000Go ahead and put the Gas Daddy tweet up right now.
00:45:03.000Dr. BD, this is really an inflection point in our country right now.
00:45:07.000According to Gas Buddy, the national average has reached $5 per gallon today.
00:45:13.000So on the same day as the January 6th hearings, the same day the leading Republican candidate for governor of Michigan is arrested for misdemeanors in like A pretty intense law enforcement operation.
00:45:26.000You have gas at five dollars a gallon nationally.
00:45:46.000Do you do what we did during the Russia hoax and then the subsequent Ukraine hoax?
00:45:52.000Or do you just ignore that stuff, make them look like fools for talking about it, Impress these kitchen table issues that, frankly, I do hear more about at my office than, you know, what happened on January 6, 2021, one way or the other.
00:46:07.000You know, what should be the Republican effort on these, you know, exploding crises across the board?
00:46:15.000Do we have to pick and choose, or do you divide the energy by pushing it all of it?
00:46:22.000That's a great question, and I would say this.
00:46:41.000It is depressing that you led with that, Darren.
00:46:45.000I would make a special exception for figures such as yourself, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the others who understand the January 6th issue and understand specifically, really, look, there's only one angle that really, really undermines the regime.
00:47:04.000There's only one angle that actually threatens the regime, and that's the angle that explores federal involvement in January 6th.
00:47:13.000I think everything else is pretty much, I don't want to be categorical about it, but everything else is pretty much a distraction, and you'd be better off talking about issues that the average American cares about.
00:47:26.000But I think there's still a very special place for this specific counter-narrative, and that is exposing the federal involvement.
00:47:34.000But in order to do that effectively, you have to be informed, should probably read the Revolver news pieces.
00:47:40.000And there are a lot of landmines there in terms of engaging in effective and informed rhetoric.
00:47:47.000And so I would say for the most part, the GOP should stay out of it.
00:47:51.000But for a select few who are brave and informed and intelligent and and know how to engage in in in rhetoric.
00:48:02.000There's still a very important role to further the truth about what really happened on January 6th and specifically what the feds knew when they knew it and what they did.
00:48:15.000Revolver.News is the website Dr. Darren Beattie is the publisher.
00:48:19.000The January 6th committee meets tonight.
00:48:21.000I tell you what, if I were in charge of the response here, I would war room the whole thing out.
00:48:27.000I would have every potential witness, every statement that they made before, during, and after January 6th.
00:48:32.000I would have all the videos of these Members of the committee inflaming their leaks and trying to precondition the American public.
00:48:43.000I would be clear about the fact that what you're watching isn't the crime, it's the cover-up.
00:48:48.000This January 6th committee is compromised to cover up a variety of failures and misdeeds that occurred throughout the apparatus of the federal government.
00:48:59.000They are well chronicled at revolver.news.
00:49:02.000I encourage everyone to check out those stories.
00:49:04.000Thanks for joining me so much, Dr. Beattie.
00:49:06.000Look forward to chatting with you soon.