Andy Biggs announces he's running for Speaker of the House of Representatives, and Mark Levin joins us on the show to debate the possibility of him being the next Speaker. Plus, we discuss the latest breaking news regarding the ongoing effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas, and our reaction to the latest dump of the so-called files from the Democratic National Committee and the Department of Homeland Security. Finally, we have a special guest, Firebrand's own Adam Kinzler, join us to discuss the possibility that Andy Biggs could be the next House Speaker, and what that means for the future of the Republican majority in the House and the country as a whole. Firebrand is a conservative commentator and radio host who has been a long-time supporter of conservative causes and causes, including the Tea Party movement and the conservative cause, and is a regular contributor on conservative media outlets like CNN and Fox News. Subscribe to Firebrand on iTunes and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe and a review on iTunes to get immediate access to future episodes and future episodes! If you like what you hear on Firebrand, please consider becoming a patron! and share the podcast on your social media platforms! We'll be looking out for your comments and suggestions for future guests! on the next episode of Firebrand! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - Who would you like to become a patron? 4:30 - What do you think of the show? 6:00 7: What's your favorite part of the podcast? 8: What are you looking for in a speaker? 9:40 - What would you want to see me to vote for next? 10:00s - Is there a candidate for Speaker? 11:15 - What s your biggest takeaway from this episode? 12:30s - What are your favorite piece of advice? 13:40s - Who do you're looking for? 15:00 -- What s the best piece of news from me? 16:15s - How do you want me to talk about? 17: What s a good idea? 18:30 -- what s your favorite thing? 19:10s 21:40 -- Is it possible for you? 22:00 | What s going to be my favorite part? 26:30 27:15 -- How would you vote for a speaker in 2020?
00:04:43.000Matt Gaetz was one of the very few members in the entire Congress who bothered to stand up against permanent Washington on behalf of his constituents.
00:04:50.000Matt Gaetz right now, he's a problem in the Democratic Party.
00:04:53.000He can cause a lot of hiccups in passing the laws.
00:04:56.000So we're going to keep running those stories to get hurt again.
00:05:00.000If you stand for the flag and kneel in prayer, if you want to build America up and not burn her to the ground, then welcome, my fellow patriots!
00:05:42.000Andy Biggs is part of the Freedom Caucus.
00:05:45.000Andy Biggs is on TV all the time promoting himself as a conservative.
00:05:50.000But a guy like that today parading around as Mr. Conservative Mr. Conservative with the Freedom Caucus, that he's going to bring conservatism to the House of Representatives is a joke.
00:06:02.000He doesn't even fundamentally understand the Constitution.
00:06:06.000I've called out Andy Biggs and four others in the House of Representatives who are trying to sabotage the election of a speaker in a what will be a Republican House where the Republicans have maybe a four or five vote majority.
00:06:24.000That means that these individuals can block the Republicans from choosing their speaker.
00:06:31.000Which means it could go to the floor of the House, and there's already talk about this in the press, where liberal Republicans, moderate Republicans, could join with Democrats and wind up choosing a speaker who's quite liberal.
00:06:59.000And we understand Mark's got a lot of problems with us populist nationalists, but Mark's a good guy, super guy, and he knows the Constitution.
00:07:36.000Mark Levin was against Kevin McCarthy before he was for Kevin McCarthy, just like Mark Levin was against Donald Trump before he was for Donald Trump.
00:08:09.000We are live broadcasting out of room 2021 of the Rayburn House Office Building on the Capitol Complex in Washington, D.C. We have a lot of breaking news on the Hill this Monday.
00:08:20.000We're going to get a key update regarding the growing effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas.
00:08:30.000Our reaction to the latest dump of the Twitter files.
00:08:33.000We've just got breaking news regarding the Democrats being unable to get the votes together for their government funding bill.
00:08:41.000So we'll talk about what that means for the country and potentially an omnibus that would steal Republicans coming into control of the House of the opportunity to have a big spending fight.
00:08:51.000But what everyone's talking about right now is the speaker's race because Kevin McCarthy does not have 218 votes to be speaker.
00:08:59.000My colleague Andy Biggs, who has just been reelected to his fourth term, has announced that he is still a candidate for Speaker of the House.
00:09:07.000I intend to vote for him and he joins us again on Firebrand now.
00:09:13.000When we hear these scenarios like, oh no, we could have a Democrat speaker if Andy Biggs continues his candidacy, do you think that's something that ought to concern folks?
00:09:54.000I find that to be absolutely ludicrous and actually condescending.
00:10:00.000You wrote a recent piece where you talked about your candidacy functioning as a mechanism to break up the establishment, to bust up this DC cartel.
00:10:10.000Talk to people in the country about the power centers that really exist in Washington.
00:10:15.000You know, folks back home that want to be really engaged or informed, they may look at the roll call votes and see, were you on one side or the other?
00:10:23.000It's why you've called for a number of those votes to be taken publicly.
00:10:27.000But in terms of who really decides the agenda and the focus and the impact of this place, where do you see that playing out and why is that wrong?
00:10:37.000So where the power is centered is there's four people in Congress, two in the Senate, two in the House, that really kind of control everything.
00:10:44.000In fact, they call it, they have the audacity to call it a four-corners bill.
00:10:47.000That means that the minority leader in the House, and the Speaker, and the majority leader and minority leader in the Senate, they've agreed to it, and they expect everybody else to respond.
00:10:59.000So when they talk about a four-corners agreement, I mean, it used to be in the Congress, I guess, we're currently in, That you could get two of those corners without even leaving the state of California.
00:11:12.000Because you had Pelosi and McCarthy representing the House of Representatives, but really, I think, coming from a place with a particular worldview.
00:11:21.000So this notion of top-down leadership, that's one power center.
00:11:26.000Yeah, so then you also have two other power centers that that four corners place to.
00:11:31.000It's the lobbyists, the K Street, the big moneyed interests, the special interests that are out there, and a lot of them like big tech, you know, you just name it, any big major interest, big pharma, those types of things.
00:11:44.000They're going to respond to that because it's big money because if you're in the Four Corners group, you've got to raise a bunch of money.
00:11:53.000The other one is, a lot of people don't talk about this, but it's big bureaucracy.
00:11:58.000So you've got big government married to big money married to tight controlled power.
00:12:04.000And we used to call that type of thing fascism.
00:12:08.000Well, and those big moneyed interests want the bureaucratic system to be as complicated as possible because if you've got the armies of lawyers and lobbyists and accountants and consultants, you can attack that bureaucratic system and you can actually bend it to your will.
00:12:52.000And it goes through a list of reasons why this will never happen.
00:12:56.000The first of which, the most obvious...
00:12:59.000Any strategy that would have a more moderate Republican elected would require every Democrat to vote for a Republican.
00:13:09.000Now, you've got Democrats that don't even want to vote for other Democrats someday, but Andy, how likely is it that every single Democrat, all 212 of them, would vote for any Republican?
00:13:34.000And CBC is basically going to say, if you're going to take away our guy, And to vote for a Republican, we're going to burn the place down.
00:13:45.000And if you think what the squad did was bad, or if you think holding out and trying to leverage what votes we have on this is bad, you watch what happens if the Democrats reject Hakeem Jeffries for a Republican.
00:13:59.000You know, Andy Biggs is telling you, I'm telling you, there is no way that Hakeem Jeffries does not have every vote of every Democrat on every ballot.
00:14:09.000It's listed as the number one reason why some notion of a moderate Republican would never be accepted.
00:14:16.000The second reason that this piece identifies is that there is no negotiation or back channel even happening right now Between moderate Republicans and Democrats.
00:14:26.000Now, we heard Don Bacon go out and say, well, we could reach across the aisle.
00:14:31.000Have you seen any evidence that that's happened?
00:14:34.000If there was evidence there'd be somebody besides Don Bacon saying how mad he is at us, there would be people from the Democrats saying, oh, yeah, maybe so.
00:14:43.000But just yesterday, even on CNN, you had a Democrat saying that, oh, well, it's not going to happen.
00:14:52.000The Republicans, and they're not the moderate, they're the kind of more liberal Republicans, they're on the other side of the spectrum of you and I, but they would have to basically manipulate a whole host, literally dozens and dozens of Democrats and Republicans in order to make that happen.
00:15:11.000There are no secrets in Washington, D.C. None at all.
00:15:15.000And so if there was some actual coalition of multiple members working together, everyone in this town would know about it.
00:15:22.000And by the way, every reporter would be dying to get the scoop on the next one.
00:15:26.000And here you have Politico saying, we've searched everywhere and there's no real evidence this is happening.
00:15:41.000We sit next to each other on the Armed Services Committee, care a lot about national defense together.
00:15:45.000But what Don Bacon is saying is not sincere.
00:15:49.000It is just an operation being run on behalf of the McCarthy coalition to try to scare those of us who are trying to actually change Congress Into accepting just kind of the next iteration of swamp-controlled decision-making.
00:16:05.000Am I too aggressive to call the bacon thing just a McCarthy op?
00:16:42.000Yeah, and the next reason that Politico outlines is that in any sort of hypothetical deal, Democrats would want something in return, and if Republicans were to surrender that, that would be the death of those candidacies in any upcoming primary.
00:16:58.000They say that it is a surefire recipe for a primary challenge to any centrist Republican.
00:17:03.000Now, if you're a frontline Republican, a centrist Republican, you don't want to be challenged in the primary because you We likely already have a general election that is very costly and requires a lot of effort.
00:17:15.000And so the notion that centrist Republicans are going to go surrender away the powers of the House of Representatives to Democrats and then have to explain that to primary voters down the road defies every feature of political physics.
00:17:35.000Is that Democrats frankly don't mind watching the GOP squirm.
00:17:40.000And look, I wish that making the demands that we are making for a better Congress, a more honest institution, a more transparent institution, I wish that didn't require discomfort in our caucus.
00:17:53.000I wish that every single person held the views that you and I frequently hold about the need To transform Congress.
00:17:59.000But sometimes you have to make even members of your own team a little uncomfortable.
00:18:05.000And real leadership is not just always giving the rah-rah speech at halftime, right?
00:18:15.000And sometimes we have to have that discomfort to say, you know what, maybe if we like embrace better policies and have better leaders, more inspirational figures guiding our decision making, maybe we won't need 12 to 15 million dollars, you know, for every frontline seat that we have to go raise from lobbyists and special interests.
00:18:32.000Maybe we'll just do what we said we would do for the people.
00:18:50.000And then we were told that we were going to get 20 to 40 seats and we'd have this massive majority.
00:18:55.000And we couldn't change the trajectory of Congress because Kevin would have deserved it.
00:19:01.000And now we're being told, It's just too doggone close.
00:19:05.000In other words, what they're saying is, you can never change The direction of this Congress, this congressional body, because, well, it'd be uncomfortable, it'd be awful, it'd be awkward, it'd be...
00:19:17.000And the reality is, it's because they never want to lose the establishment.
00:19:21.000They never want to lose the control and power.
00:19:24.000And I'm grateful for you because that's what we're trying to do here, is break down that power structure so that people can actually, members of Congress can actually represent their districts.
00:19:36.000We can't even go down and amend the bills on the floor.
00:19:40.000You have a $2 trillion bill, and you can't go down and have a meaningful debate or offer amendments.
00:19:48.000It's out of control, except for those four people.
00:19:54.000Several of our colleagues, seven of them, in fact, have prepared a memorandum regarding the important requirements of leadership of anyone who would want to be Speaker of the House.
00:20:05.000Those in the press have really categorized it as a sort of, you know, Message to McCarthy that he doesn't have their vote in the absence of these things, but let's go over the goals of this movement.
00:20:17.000What are the goals of the people who are trying to maybe shake up the leadership race and not have everything be a coronation?
00:20:25.000And one of the first ones is to have 72 hours to read the bill text That is unwaivable.
00:20:32.000Now, that just seems like something both parties should support, that every American would support, and sometimes you're dealing with bills that are thousands of pages, so really 72 hours isn't enough for these complex bills, but what kind of pushback have you gotten as we've presented this to even our Republican colleagues?
00:20:51.000I've been told that there's just no way that we're going to have to go.
00:20:56.000And as a prime example, the bill that we just did, 4,408 pages with a 36-hour window to look at it.
00:21:04.000A complex bill filled with all kinds of interesting things.
00:21:07.000But I've been told that if that happens, we will stultify, we will stop this.
00:21:27.000The real reason is that they don't want us to have the chance to really see what the operative effects are of the legislation because then we would have stronger critique of bills that don't always serve the interests of the folks who send us here to work for them.
00:21:41.000I had a very powerful committee chairman tell me once, Well, Gates, the reason we don't give you guys the bills in advance is legislation's a lot like roadkill.
00:21:49.000It gets picked after too much after about 48 hours in the sun.
00:21:52.000And, you know, that is supposed to be the deliberative process that our fellow Americans deserve.
00:21:58.000So know this, as Andy and I are fighting with the seven certainly who've signed this memo and many others to try to open that up, there are people in this town who think that the only way this town can work is if we don't really know the operative effects of the legislation when we're required to vote on it.
00:22:15.000Another demand in this memorandum is single subject.
00:22:18.000The requirement that every bill address a single subject and that the appropriations bills be considered separately, not just as one up or down votes.
00:22:27.000So you've got to vote for the troops and keeping our military funded right alongside funding some of these woke agencies.
00:22:35.000Walk through your vision on single subject.
00:22:38.000So single subject would, I mean, even that's probably too broad because you can just kind of morph a bunch of things into subject.
00:22:46.000But what that would do, ostensibly, that would be the first step to letting us actually have control.
00:22:52.000So where you don't see, you know, this is the first thing that comes to mind is like, let's say like a DACA amnesty bill in a National Defense Authorization Act.
00:23:03.000It's where you wouldn't see something like a safe banking act, which is the marijuana banking act, whether you're for it or against it, in the National Defense Authorization Act because it has nothing to do with that.
00:23:13.000You would actually silo some of these votes So the American people could see what we're voting on, members would see what we're voting on, and you would not have the leverage that the leadership uses, because they use this as leverage.
00:23:31.000Yeah, I mean, if you want to know the nitty-gritty, if you're watching and wondering, well, why would you ever have to vote on water infrastructure at the same time as the defense authorization?
00:23:41.000Why would you have to vote on an issue regarding the war powers...
00:23:47.000The reason is that as the leadership is trying to construct a way to 218 votes on something, they realize that some of these ideas cannot get the votes on their own merit.
00:23:59.000And so they have to hang ornaments onto the tree, hoping that that will become a payoff to get two or three votes here, or an incentive to get four or five votes there.
00:24:11.000Worthy of the greatest country on the planet Earth to sit there and legislate like you're building a Mr. Potato Head doll, right?
00:24:20.000And that's ultimately what a lot of these bills look like and it's one of the principal demands being made.
00:24:25.000Conservative representation on committees is another demand in the memo.
00:24:30.000Explain to people why this need is not currently being met.
00:24:34.000It's not currently being met because, like on the Appropriations Committee, leadership does not want to have people in there that are going to say, we're going to vote no on this because it's going to bust our spending and increase our deficit, which will in turn increase the national debt.
00:24:51.000They want to have control of the committees.
00:24:54.000So most conservatives are kind of funneled into two or three committees.
00:25:00.000We're on natural resources, we're on judiciary, and we're on oversight.
00:25:07.000But you're not going to find us on appropriations.
00:25:09.000You're not going to find too many of us on house armed services.
00:25:13.000You're not going to find us on anything That the leadership wants to have control of, and you're definitely not going to find this on rules committee in any kind of significant ratio.
00:25:22.000The appropriate ratio would mean that the chairman or chairwoman is going to have to deal with It's almost like if you want to be on the War Committee, you've got to be for the wars.
00:25:40.000If you want to be on the Appropriations Committee, you have to be for all of the appropriations.
00:25:45.000If you want to be on the Foreign Affairs Committee, you have to be for more foreign affairs.
00:25:49.000You know, if you want to be on the Committees that oversee banking and insurance, you have to be captive to those lobbying interests.
00:25:57.000And what we're saying is that, look, we've got a cross-section of ideologies in this conference, and I don't purport to say that every committee should just have folks that are in the Freedom Caucus or Freedom Caucus-aligned.
00:26:10.000I think that every committee needs to reflect the ideological sort of bandwidth of our conference.
00:26:15.000That way, if there are issues with bills where maybe, you know, there's something that the moderates will not vote for that you and I want, I'd rather sort that out in committee working on those matters rather than have it come to the floor and say, well, we don't have the votes for it, so we have to bootstrap some other crazy legislation to try to force it over the finish line.
00:26:37.000The committee is for the hot debate, the push-me-pull-you that's supposed to come in legislating.
00:26:44.000And then everybody else should say, well, we trust it because it's come out of this committee.
00:26:48.000We know that they've fought hard over this thing, but that isn't the way it happens today.
00:26:52.000The only thing I trust when a bill comes out of committee in Congress now is that the lobbyists who lobby that committee are okay with the bill.
00:27:00.000Not that it's actually good for my constituents.
00:27:02.000And so you have to think about the committees now as totally captive creatures to the interests that lobby those committees.
00:27:09.000That's how you get on those committees.
00:27:11.000That's how you fundraise off those committees.
00:27:13.000And what we're saying is if you had ideological diversity And not just Freedom Caucus and Freedom Caucus-aligned people, also folks from the more centrist groups, then it would be about something more and something meaningful.
00:27:25.000Fran on Rumble says you also have her vote for speaker, so I don't know which congressional district she represents, but a lot of folks saying we need to fight hard, that these are valuable, and Star on Instagram saying that the power needs to be with the people.
00:27:40.000And that's really what this drives at.
00:27:43.000The people do feel like the government has been weaponized against them.
00:27:47.000And there is an organizational demand about the House of Representatives in this memo our colleagues have signed for a church commission.
00:27:54.000And you and I are on the Judiciary Committee.
00:27:58.000We're going to be focused a lot there on the FBI and the national security apparatus being weaponized against people.
00:28:06.000But then on the Armed Services Committee, I'm going to be looking at DOD and its weaponization against troops.
00:28:11.000And then on oversight, you're going to be looking at these foreign entanglements of the Biden family and how that's shaped China policy.
00:28:17.000And the argument in this memo is that...
00:28:20.000All of those committees need to do that work, but at the end of the day, this has to crystallize in a church commission-style report.
00:28:29.000Yeah, I do, and I'll tell you why, because I do think the committees have the bandwidth to handle certain things, but the church-style commission would basically say things like, okay, what we have found is this interlocking weaponization of the federal government.
00:28:47.000And what we're going to do is we need to stop that.
00:29:31.000Well, for those of you watching the speaker's race closely, there were 36 votes that Kevin McCarthy did not capture when Republicans got together to make a speaker designation choice.
00:29:42.000Of those 36, zero have come out publicly saying their mind has been changed and now all of a sudden they intend to vote for Kevin McCarthy.
00:29:53.000Five of us have come out to say that we really can't envision a circumstance voting for Kevin McCarthy given his recalcitrant to some of these goals we have for the House of Representatives to be more transparent, open, and just available for lawmakers to be able to serve the needs of our constituents.
00:30:11.000And now an additional seven Including Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Dan Bishop of North Carolina, Paul Gosar of Arizona, Representative-elect Andy Ogles of Tennessee, Chip Roy of Texas, Andrew Clyde of Georgia, and Representative-elect Eli Crane of Arizona.
00:30:27.000These additional seven are coming out and saying...
00:30:33.000This is about a series of policy goals.
00:30:36.000And the number one thing that was listed is the motion to vacate.
00:30:40.000And the motion to vacate being really the enforcement mechanism for these other goals.
00:30:45.000And I know this sounds like inside baseball, but I mean, this is how power and who wields it is going to get crafted in Washington, D.C. So it's very important for people to understand that for 200-ish years, A single member of the body could call for a no-confidence vote, essentially, on the presiding officer.
00:31:38.000You know, when I look at Mr. McCarthy, I have a certain reticence because I think he needs I think he'd be willing to say, yeah, I'll give you everything, but I'm not going to give you the motion to vacate.
00:31:54.000Now, why is the motion to vacate important?
00:31:56.000Because when he violates these rules or attempts to waive these rules, which we haven't even talked about the waiver, that happens on every bill, they waive the rules of the House, then We can go to him and say, wait a second, you just waived these rules that you negotiated to put in there, and we're going to hold you accountable.
00:32:16.000But if you can't hold him accountable, I'm going to just predict right now.
00:32:20.000He's going to waive these rules as often as the conference lets him, and by the way, the conference is going to probably let him do it a lot.
00:32:29.000Our goal is to ensure that principled conservatives do not trade the cow for the magic beans.
00:32:36.000And this entire negotiation, this entire process, will be wholly fruitless if rules changes to the institution are not undergirded with a motion to vacate that any one member can execute.
00:32:52.000It is the principle enforcement mechanism It is a total deal breaker, it seems, not only for my seven colleagues who spoke through their own words in the memo, but for many others who I've chatted with inside conversations these last several weeks.
00:33:07.000And, I mean, isn't the reason we need the motion to vacate because we don't trust Kevin McCarthy To deliver on any changes to the rules that he promises.
00:33:52.000That's betting against yourself, in my opinion.
00:33:55.000What I want to know is, is there a mechanism to hold you accountable?
00:34:00.000I'm glad you mentioned that because you watch some of the coverage of all of this and folks are like, well, the right-wing conservatives are making crazy demands.
00:34:33.000Two-seat majority in the Senate and still got a lot of stuff done for conservatives.
00:34:38.000And I think that the size of this majority dictates the type of leader we need.
00:34:42.000We need a leader with broad trust and confidence across the various groups within the Republican majority.
00:34:49.000And just the fact that we have to enforce these rules Based on something other than trust shows you, I think, all you need to know about the McCarthy candidacy and its ultimate destiny.
00:35:01.000Andy, there is breaking news in the Congress now I want to get to.
00:35:32.000That if you want to get deeper into some of the rationale and some of the currents that are running through this leadership race, I strongly recommend that episode.
00:36:19.000And this is a very good thing for us because we need the Senate to kill the omnibus bill, which is this big, massive spending package we've been talking about.
00:36:28.000Because if that passes, Matt, it's going to fund the government all the way through next September.
00:36:34.000And what that does is that takes away 95% of the leverage that we will have against the Biden administration.
00:36:40.000And what most people forget is we will be moving into the fall of 2023, which is the kickoff of the presidential cycle and this place will basically shut down.
00:36:51.000I hate to tell you American people, but this place kind of shuts down for the presidential campaign.
00:36:55.000We'll just do one or two things along the way to make it look like we're doing.
00:36:59.000That's performance art, but the reality is We have got to stop the omnibus.
00:37:05.000And quite frankly, this is where Kevin McCarthy could show he has leadership chops.
00:37:10.000He needs to be out there talking about killing the omnibus bill, do a short-term spending bill so that the Republicans can be in control of the budget come January.
00:37:21.000This is the swamp's play to keep control of spending for as long as possible before Republicans have even the opportunity or the platform or the vote to deliver on the promises we made on the campaign trail to rein in the spending.
00:37:36.000The principal mandate that Republicans have after the midterm election in the House of Representatives is to curtail inflation.
00:37:43.000And we won the argument that the driving factor of inflation wasn't Vladimir Putin.
00:37:48.000It wasn't some global economic condition.
00:37:51.000And so here we are trying to present that fight to even have the opportunity to battle on it.
00:37:58.000And the cards are being dealt from under the deck just away from us with Republicans in the Senate who are retiring and just want their earmarks and pork to bring them to their district, and Republicans in the House who might prefer to not have the fight and might be all too willing to allow the lobbyists in the swamp to win.
00:38:16.000So we are fighting against this omnibus spending legislation for that reason.
00:38:21.000Democrats don't seem to have the vote.
00:38:31.000I think that the senators will cave, Republican senators will cave, and give it away.
00:38:37.000Our people elected us to fight, and if the first opportunity we have to kill a massive spending bill, we don't take that opportunity, then...
00:38:48.000It will be demoralizing to the people that were expecting more of us.
00:39:27.000Very disappointing and hopefully not a sign of things to come.
00:39:30.000You are leading the fight on this effort to impeach Ali Mayorkas, and I want to get to that because you've got big news coming later in the week.
00:40:36.000The drugs that are coming, record amounts, but we still get the same percentage.
00:40:40.000So you might be interdicting more, but you're still only getting 7% of what we estimate totally coming in.
00:40:47.000The fentanyl deaths, the opioid crisis, the human and sex trafficking is permeating the country.
00:40:53.000And right now, if you could get CBP intelligence to go on the record, they would tell you, There is not a community in this country that does not have a Mexican cartel presence in this country.
00:41:06.000And all the time, you've got Alejandro Mayorkas saying, we're not going to remove people, the 1.25 million people who've been ordered to leave the country.
00:42:02.000Well, I'm glad you're leading the effort because I do believe that impeachment is the proper tool when people are violating their duty on purpose.
00:42:21.000Everybody is talking about the shakeup in the Senate, driven by the Arizona delegation.
00:42:27.000I heard on one of the Sunday shows someone say, well, you know, Kyrsten Sinema for a long time says she's friendly with Andy Biggs, that they actually have a working relationship.
00:42:35.000So, I mean, this evolution of Kyrsten Sinema from, you know, almost Green Party activist to now not associating with the Democratic Party is quite the evolution.
00:42:45.000And it seems you've had a front row seat to it.
00:42:47.000Well, you know, she and I served together for a long time in the Arizona Legislature.
00:43:33.000If you've got a good idea and a good policy that I think works for the country that's constitutional, I'll get on it.
00:43:39.000And she's kind of that way, but she leans to the left far more than you may.
00:43:45.000I wonder whether or not this was an act of true disassociation or whether she just looked at polling that showed she was going to lose a Democratic primary to Ruben Gallego.
00:43:53.000And by her declaring that she's an independent now, the Democrats are Presented with this choice of whether or not to field a candidate against her.
00:44:01.000And if she punches through to a general election, she's obviously a stronger general election candidate than she is a primary candidate, right?
00:44:53.000Hobbs and Choice there in some ways because for Republicans, we like Kyrsten Sinema because she's open, she's transparent, she votes a lot of ways, and certainly the Chamber of Commerce.
00:45:38.000I'm grateful for this discussion because as we have reporters hound us all week, we can point to the goals of this movement, the objectives that are not rooted in any personality conflict, but that are truly rooted in an opportunity, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, To change the way the House of Representatives works.
00:45:56.000And if we accomplish that, it probably won't even matter who the speaker is because we'll have an open, honest place to serve and our constituents will be all the better for it.