Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - April 22, 2026


Blake Haunted By Her Own LIES !!!


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00:00:00.000 So, does that sound like to you that it was Justin's idea to put Taylor Swift's song in the trailer?
00:00:10.820 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, I'm Tjasti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:15.160 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:18.800 Okay, so Blake Lively claims that the label bully cost her over 40 million dollars.
00:00:24.960 As you know, when people watched my interviews, they described her behavior. 1.00
00:00:30.000 as a bully and a mean girl.
00:00:33.860 Of course, she's also claiming that the Wayfair party is behind this. 0.92
00:00:38.660 It is so absurd at this point and Blake and Ryan keeps doubling down.
00:00:44.120 There's so much to talk about.
00:00:45.560 Amongst other things, Blake's own declaration
00:00:49.080 when she's explaining how everything went down in her own words.
00:00:54.740 Of course, her stories don't add up.
00:00:57.000 And now, all of a sudden, she claims that it was Justin's idea to put Taylor Swift's song on the trailer.
00:01:04.820 Also, the way Blake describes that January 4th meeting does not match what everyone else present at that meeting experienced, including a Sony executive.
00:01:15.960 Also, more fun stuff is happening on Instagram.
00:01:19.060 Now, both People Magazine and Today Show got community notes for spreading false information.
00:01:25.960 Yeah, it's quite funny how the public has gained so much power in this case
00:01:30.040 saying like, hey, don't spread misinformation
00:01:32.420 just because you're in Ryan Reynolds' pocket.
00:01:35.160 We see you.
00:01:36.060 And let's look at how Ryan Reynolds lied in front of this live audience
00:01:39.800 telling they didn't know the gender of their son
00:01:42.780 before he came out of the old shoot.
00:01:45.920 Also, Blake is posting like never before on social media.
00:01:49.780 She is desperate to get some sympathy
00:01:52.280 and now she's bringing her kids more and more into this.
00:01:55.960 It's all about family, motherhood, and of course, innocence.
00:02:00.120 So yeah, let's start with this post that Blake just did on her story.
00:02:03.380 She posted a lot of different things, mainly emphasizing that she's a good mother,
00:02:08.500 a painting by her six-year-old.
00:02:11.160 And she also posted this note.
00:02:14.800 And she also posted this quote from a Sunday Times bestseller called Jess Ulrich,
00:02:21.780 which says,
00:02:22.580 i hope she sticks up for those who need it herself included i hope she believes it
00:02:29.980 may no one dim her light may it shine may it grow what a force that she is may she always
00:02:38.940 know uh i don't know if she's trying to refer to her daughters when she's saying that but i think
00:02:46.240 it's obvious that she's referring to herself and it doesn't really matter. What matters here is
00:02:52.740 that Blake is desperate for sympathy and she keeps reminding us that she's a mom and she has children
00:02:58.880 so don't be mean to her because she doesn't deserve that. It also reminded me of how Sigrid
00:03:04.800 McCauley, Blake Lively's PR attorney, came out in front of the courthouse to tell everyone that
00:03:12.080 Blake Lively is a great role model for all daughters out there. And we can only hope
00:03:17.920 that our daughters would react the same way as Blake Lively did by standing up for herself like 0.66
00:03:25.020 this. She stood up for herself in the workplace as we would hope that our daughters would do as well. 0.99
00:03:31.220 Yes, they're bringing everyone's daughters into this too now. I think everything we're seeing
00:03:36.280 right now is so interesting because I've never in my life and my career before seen a couple who
00:03:43.400 receives more backlash online than Blake and Ryan is doing right now. And people are so engaged in
00:03:49.260 it. Every comment section is on fire. Whenever a media outlet is posting something about Blake or
00:03:56.300 Ryan, the comments are insane. So in Blake's mind, I wonder, does she think that this is a part of
00:04:03.640 the smear campaign what's happening right now in the comment section how is she explaining that
00:04:09.380 does she still believe that these people are sitting in their bot factories and creating
00:04:15.540 this criticism online i mean it's so absurd talking about the comment section as i said
00:04:22.980 there are two community notes now where ryan reynolds is involved one is on the today show
00:04:29.260 As you know, this is where Ryan did this interview a couple of days ago.
00:04:33.420 I spoke about it yesterday.
00:04:34.680 It was everywhere.
00:04:35.440 He said that he's so proud of his wife, blah, blah, blah.
00:04:38.160 Now there's a community post on Today Show's Instagram post promoting this interview saying that undisclosed on this post,
00:04:47.100 Ryan Reynolds is a paid spokesperson for Acadia Pharmaceuticals, the sponsor of this event's interview.
00:04:55.480 This was disclosed in an earlier Today Show post announcing the event, but it's not mentioned on this one.
00:05:01.120 His estranged father passed away from Parkinson's in 2015.
00:05:05.660 So Ryan was paid to be at this event.
00:05:09.380 He was paid to sit there and say things, positive things about his wife, amongst other things.
00:05:16.040 And he did not disclose that.
00:05:18.380 Also, I noticed in this little segment, I'm sure the interview was longer than what we could actually witness on YouTube.
00:05:24.720 but in that segment they added so many of ryan reynolds brands it's like oh and he has mint
00:05:31.080 mobile and they showed him in mobile commercial oh and he owns aviation gin and they showed a
00:05:35.600 little ad clip from aviation gin oh and he's the man behind deadpool they showed a little deadpool
00:05:41.140 oh and he also owned max and he also owns maximum effort this entire interview was just a big
00:05:46.940 advertisement for ryan reynolds himself and then he has the audacity to talk about integrity
00:05:54.160 And there's a community note on a People Magazine article, and the article says Ryan Reynolds praised Blake Lively's integrity amid her legal battle with Justin Baldoni in an interview on Sunday.
00:06:07.140 I wonder why they did integrity like this, by the way.
00:06:10.100 Anyways, the community note here is saying that Ryan Reynolds publicly referring to Blake as a woman of integrity contributes to a highly curated public narrative that reflects perception rather than independently verified facts.
00:06:24.480 and like most likely celebrities character endorsements it should be viewed through a
00:06:28.720 critical lens rather than acceptance of an objective conclusion about someone's moral
00:06:33.420 character because of this strong claims about someone's integrity should not be in print
00:06:38.240 interpreted as a factual proof but rather as subjective yes i do think that people think
00:06:44.860 that this is subjective because it's coming from him about his wife but i do love that people are
00:06:50.160 actually starting to add these community notes to call out the media when they are trying to spread
00:06:57.200 misinformation or when they're trying to spread a PR narrative like this article was. And by the
00:07:03.600 way, when Ryan was on the Today Show and talked about this, he said to this live audience, and
00:07:10.540 it's in the YouTube clip as well, that they didn't know the gender of their son before he just came
00:07:17.520 out the old shoot. We never found out until they, you know, come out the old shoot. I'd never call
00:07:24.860 it that. Well, that is a lie because if we're to trust Blake Lively and her deposition, she talked
00:07:34.460 to Justin Baldoni about having a boy. And we know that because that information ended up in a
00:07:41.660 conversation about circumcision. Yes, so Blake knew that she was having a boy. And as we know,
00:07:48.300 Ryan was also there when this happened. So either Ryan was just lying in front of this live audience
00:07:54.640 for fun, or he forgot that he already knew that he was having a boy. I mean, he keeps lying to
00:08:01.320 entertain people. And that's one thing. But when you're on a stand in court, then the fact that
00:08:07.360 you have lied like this just for entertainment, that is not a good look. Because then it's like,
00:08:11.920 oh, when else do you lie? So why does he keep lying to people? I've spoken about a lot of his
00:08:17.240 other lie stories that he's told and stories that keep changing. But these are just like simple
00:08:22.940 facts that happened to him in his life. And he keeps lying about it. He keeps changing up the
00:08:27.720 stories. Anyways, let's talk about this story in TMZ today. Blake Lively claims mean girl and
00:08:33.760 bully labels cost her over 40 million dollars. So as you all know those terms those labels were put
00:08:43.640 on Blake Lively after people watched my interview that I posted independently and with no correspondence
00:08:51.320 with anyone from the Wayfair parties. As you know people reacted organically to someone's behavior
00:08:57.960 But anyways, it says here that Blake believes the mean girl label placed on her amid her legal battle with Justin Baldoni cost her upward of $40 million in reputational damages.
00:09:09.760 According to court docs obtained by TMZ, Blake breaks down the money she's seeking in her legal battle.
00:09:17.040 As TMC first reported, Blake is seeking around $161 million from Baldoni's company,
00:09:22.400 including $56 million in past and future earnings, $49 million in losses to her hair care company,
00:09:30.040 $22 million to her Betty Bus beverage company, and more.
00:09:34.960 The thing is here, to claim losses, you also have to show that you actually lost work.
00:09:41.020 she needs to show that she had things in the pipeline and things got cancelled because of
00:09:46.440 this smear campaign she hasn't been able to do that yet she's just saying that because she was
00:09:51.880 labeled all these things people didn't want to buy her products anymore and the fact that she
00:09:56.300 believes that she's worth this amount of money is just so ridiculous but anyways in new docs the
00:10:02.340 gossip girl star explained what she was seeking in a little more detail blake said she hired an 0.61
00:10:08.980 expert. I've talked about experts before. Experts are people you pay and you hire to say exactly
00:10:15.020 what you want them to say. And this expert determined that there were more than 106
00:10:20.600 million impressions online calling her mean girl, bully, and tone deaf. 176 million impressions
00:10:29.160 online that Jed Wallace made sure of, obviously, because he's the one, he's the hired gun here
00:10:35.960 that was sitting in his basement using bots to get 176 million impressions online calling her 0.78
00:10:45.440 mean girl bully and tone deaf. At least my video was not responsible for the tone deaf thing. 1.00
00:10:51.320 All of these things are directly linked to Blake Viola's behavior. Tone deaf was a word a lot of
00:10:58.520 people used while she was promoting her hair care line and her alcohol brand in the middle
00:11:04.180 of promoting a movie about dv and bully and mingle were people reacting to the video to the interview
00:11:11.240 that i published and they continue to say blake said her expert found that the posts harmed blake's
00:11:16.860 reputation to the tune of 36.5 to 40.5 million dollars so you're all responsible for blake losing
00:11:26.560 this amount of money because you've all been brainwashed by the wayfair parties to comment
00:11:32.040 bully mean girl and tone deaf under posts with blake lively i'm just wondering how her attorneys
00:11:38.880 are going to explain this in front of the jury like how are they going to convince them that
00:11:44.820 this is not blake lively's own making all right so let's look at this deposition that blake lively
00:11:50.440 wrote herself i'm sure though that she got a little help from her attorneys here because it's
00:11:55.280 not as messy as that letter she wrote to producer's guilt of america so this so this was updated on
00:12:02.200 april 18th and blake is here explaining everything that happened in her own words so she's saying
00:12:10.500 that after initially meeting justin baldoni i spoke with liz plank a friend who co-hosted the
00:12:17.380 man enough podcast with him plank shared several negative experiences that she and others had with
00:12:22.980 Baldoni and the Wayfair Studios. Yes, I talked about Liz Plank before. She's the podcast host
00:12:28.400 Justin was working with for four years and then she went behind his back and teamed up with Blake
00:12:34.980 and Ryan and she says here after initially meeting Justin, I spoke with Liz Plank who had so many bad
00:12:41.460 experiences. Then why did she actually agree to do a movie with him? I don't get that. If you hear so
00:12:46.720 many bad things about a person before you start working with them, why do you want to work with
00:12:50.580 them. She continues, I felt strongly that it ends with us could reach a broad audience. Lily Bloom's
00:12:55.440 story resonated with me deeply and personally, and I thought her story of resilience and empowerment
00:13:01.440 was important to share. For these and other reasons, I ultimately accepted the role. So she's
00:13:06.960 explaining here because she felt such a good connection to the role. She didn't listen to Liz
00:13:11.640 Plank. And she says, I've only met the film's screenwriter, Christy Hull, once and very briefly
00:13:17.180 in person at the New York premiere on August 6th.
00:13:20.640 We only communicated one other time,
00:13:23.420 which was also brief and via email a few days later.
00:13:26.960 How interesting that she took over this movie
00:13:29.500 and she did so many rewrites with her husband
00:13:31.880 and she only met the screenwriter once,
00:13:35.740 Christy Hall, which was at the premiere.
00:13:38.280 And that is also, as you know,
00:13:39.400 when Blake said that Ryan Reynolds
00:13:41.060 had written that rooftop scene
00:13:42.840 and Christy Hall was like,
00:13:44.700 oh, that's news to me.
00:13:46.380 And then she wrote an apology letter later to Christy Hall to say, oh, I'm so sorry about that.
00:13:52.340 I was, I didn't mean to, you know, harm you or anything.
00:13:56.100 Yeah, interesting that she only met her once.
00:13:58.340 I didn't know that.
00:13:59.560 Anyways, it says here that in late March 2023, Baldoni introduced me to a trusted health advisor of his, Jennifer Benson,
00:14:06.960 perfectly for her to help me recover from strep throat.
00:14:10.120 throat Benson subsequently sent me an agreement outlining the purpose and goals of her program 0.99
00:14:16.720 the agreement indicated that Benson specialized in weight loss the agreement indicated that she
00:14:23.520 specialized in weight loss so therefore automatically this meant that Justin Baldoni
00:14:29.840 was trying to fat shame her through this specialist according to Blake's logic and then
00:14:37.460 she's talking about Don Saladino, her trainer and longtime friend who called her up and said
00:14:43.660 that he, that Justin had asked for her weight, blah, blah, blah. And then she's explaining this
00:14:48.380 fat shaming meeting here saying that on around April 25th of 2023, I informed Baldoni that I was
00:14:54.540 aware he spoke to Saladino about my weight. Baldoni had come to my office to work on script
00:14:59.520 revisions. And before we started, I raised this conversation, I raised this conversation with
00:15:04.360 Saladino about my weight and conveyed that it was upsetting to me and that I felt in and I felt
00:15:10.820 it invasive and inappropriate. My husband Ryan Reynolds was also working in our office at the
00:15:17.300 time on his film so both of them were at Buckingham Palace as you know that's what Blake Lively refers
00:15:23.860 to that's how she refers to her office in her penthouse in Tribeca and so Ryan Reynolds just
00:15:30.240 happened to be there at this fat-shaming meeting. Ryan briefly walked over and joined our discussion
00:15:36.060 but returned back to his own work shortly thereafter. Later on Hugh Jackman stopped by
00:15:43.260 briefly to pick up Reynolds for lunch. He shook Baldoni's hand at the door. They exchanged niceties
00:15:49.640 and Jackman left with Reynolds. No one but Baldoni, myself and Reynolds was anywhere in our office
00:15:56.920 during the discussion about Baldoni's inappropriate inquiries into my weight.
00:16:02.640 Okay, so we don't know yet if Hugh Jackman actually heard
00:16:05.980 when Ryan Reynolds was, according to Justin Baldoni,
00:16:09.620 yelling at him for fat-shaming his wife.
00:16:13.420 Ryan just popped in and said, yeah, don't fat-shame her,
00:16:15.900 and then left again and had lunch with his buddy Hugh Jackman.
00:16:18.840 And in the middle of this, when Hugh Jackman arrived,
00:16:21.520 Justin Baldoni met him at the door saying,
00:16:23.820 hi so nice to meet you and everything was just fine. I don't know it's something weird about
00:16:28.500 that story let me know what you think. Then she talks about intimacy and nudity that the wafer
00:16:33.660 defendants did not follow appropriate industry or a nudity rider procedures. Yes so regarding that
00:16:40.120 nudity rider Blake Lively was not nude in this movie so they didn't need one and that is also
00:16:45.700 what the intimacy coordinator had said that she didn't have to sign a rider for this because she
00:16:50.720 was never nude and here she talks about that improvised kiss and she's denying it she says
00:16:57.380 here on around may 19th 2023 i filmed a scene in which my character lily bloom visits baldoni's
00:17:03.720 character at work to share that she loves him the intention was always to kiss in that scene
00:17:09.480 with everyone's knowledge and consent along with my makeup artist we planned lipstick that we'd
00:17:15.460 not transfer on to Baldoni for his kiss for the kiss which we also shared with him while the scene
00:17:22.220 was cut from the film the version that the version that appears in the film is one re-shot to be set
00:17:28.620 in Raul Kinsey's Baldoni's character's apartment instead and it too has a kiss as it is the pivotal
00:17:35.440 moment for the character's love story well I don't know who to believe here Justin Baldoni said that
00:17:41.340 that kiss was improvised and Blake just says it wasn't because her makeup artist put this lipstick
00:17:46.780 on her that wouldn't transfer to Baldoni. Well, maybe Blake planned the kiss and that's why she
00:17:53.360 put that lipstick on. But why isn't she referring to the script here? Does it say in the script that
00:17:58.140 they were supposed to kiss or not? Because that's the only evidence that can actually prove if this
00:18:02.880 was planned or not. Then she talks about the birthing scene. And as you know, we've seen the
00:18:07.560 behind the scenes from the birthing scene when she's wearing a prostate belly and a hospital gown
00:18:14.260 and black briefs underneath that and for Blake here she says customary industry restrictions
00:18:20.360 that in my experience have been put in place for partial or implied nudity were not implemented
00:18:27.060 for the birth scene in my experience either it's customary industry restrictions or it's not it's 0.99
00:18:35.200 not customary restrictions in my experience how many birthing scenes did she do before this one
00:18:41.500 by the way and she's saying here the clothes the set was not closed to non-essential personnel for
00:18:46.560 the entirety of the scene and steve sarowicz was there that day and also she says here the script
00:18:52.720 for the birth scene did not call for the simulation of nudity and as a result i did not discuss or
00:18:59.420 consent to nudity with the film's intimacy coordinator in preparation for the birth scene
00:19:04.780 through a nudity rider or otherwise.
00:19:07.320 All we can see in that scene are Blake Lively's legs.
00:19:11.100 If she was wearing a short skirt and here she was actually wearing briefs,
00:19:15.260 that is not considered nudity.
00:19:18.740 To be considered that, you have to wear something smaller than a bikini. 0.99
00:19:23.680 And she wasn't. 0.91
00:19:24.700 Here she's claiming that Baldoni and Jamie Heath insisted that I simulate giving birth naked.
00:19:30.120 I've never seen that before, that she was supposed to be there completely naked.
00:19:33.880 I don't think so.
00:19:35.120 And then she's adding that Baldoni recounted that his wife
00:19:38.620 tore her clothes off when giving birth to their children.
00:19:41.580 And I share that that was not my experience
00:19:43.760 when birthing any of my four children.
00:19:46.160 That's because Blake Lively wore briefs
00:19:48.180 while giving birth to her children, obviously.
00:19:50.760 And this is my favorite part.
00:19:52.120 Baldoni insisted that the prosthetic belly be visible
00:19:54.660 and continued to press for nudity.
00:19:57.320 That belly was a prosthetic.
00:19:59.420 And for Blake, that is nudity.
00:20:01.960 I mean this is so absurd. She was supposed to show a fake belly and that was too much for her? 1.00
00:20:09.080 I felt forced to compromise and ultimately agreed to simulate nudity from below the chest down. 1.00
00:20:16.000 How else would she give birth if she didn't have bare legs or if it didn't appear that she was 0.94
00:20:21.700 actually giving birth? It's so dumb. And of course as you know the judge has gone through all of this 1.00
00:20:27.600 already said that it is BS and she has no case of SH. So I don't even understand how and why
00:20:35.560 they're going to use this. And then she keeps talking about how the birthing scene took a long
00:20:40.260 time and she felt like so humiliated. She's an actress, okay? And if you're an actress, you have
00:20:46.800 to get used to being humiliated because a lot of scenes that you're in, in a regular movie, especially
00:20:52.480 a movie that's supposed to be R-rated, you have to be able to put yourself in vulnerable
00:20:57.320 positions. And when you read the script and knew what the movie was about, and then you're like,
00:21:03.460 oh, I'm giving birth in a scene and I felt so humiliated and degraded. And then, of course,
00:21:09.700 she talks about how Justin hired his friend as an objian. He's an actor and he's in New York.
00:21:15.300 He actually came out and talked about this and said, you know, it was very offensive to him
00:21:19.400 that she would say that he was just some person or a friend of Baldoni.
00:21:23.800 He has a long list of projects on IMDb.
00:21:26.960 And by the way, Blake Lively brought all of her friends into this project.
00:21:31.760 And because Justin hired someone he already knew to play a character,
00:21:36.620 it's like, oh my gosh, this is SH.
00:21:39.760 Then she talks about the dancing scene that we've also seen
00:21:42.560 and listened to for that matter.
00:21:44.380 The dancing started that our characters would be in their own world
00:21:49.140 falling in love and did not call for any kissing simulated intimacy or any physical touching beyond
00:21:56.380 slow dancing so what is slow dancing if it's not physical touching and simulated intimacy
00:22:02.260 what is slow dancing then you're just holding like this and you're just moving slowly around
00:22:07.680 and you're not allowed to do anything but you're supposed to pretend that you're falling in love
00:22:11.900 how on earth would you convince an audience that that's real and she says here there was no
00:22:17.640 discussion or no opportunity for me to consent to kissing or intimacy with Baldoni or the film
00:22:22.700 intimacy coordinating in preparation for filming as we know because we've seen the scene and we've
00:22:28.500 seen all the behind the scenes footage there was no kissing Justin said I will lean in now and try
00:22:36.360 to pretend I'm going to kiss you and I'll take my hat off and Blake said okay as you know the judge
00:22:42.460 commented on this dancing scene in length in his ruling saying like you're shooting a movie you're 0.87
00:22:48.020 supposed to pretend you're falling in love he was basically just saying that this is ridiculous as
00:22:53.480 all of us are she says here that Baldoni spontaneously improvised intimate physical
00:22:58.900 touch during filming he repeatedly leaned in towards me attempted to kiss me kiss my forehand
00:23:05.360 forehead intimately rubbed his face and mouth against my neck put his thumb on my mouth and
00:23:11.380 flicked my lower lip caressed me and leaned into my neck saying it smells good in reference to my
00:23:17.320 skin yeah we also know what that smell good thing was because as you know we could hear the audio 0.99
00:23:23.200 well it's not bad it's my body makeup yeah why did she even keep that in here when she knows
00:23:34.140 that we've all heard and seen what happened in that scene and she says none of it was scripted
00:23:39.180 discussed or agreed in advance. I felt trapped and tried to create physical distance from Boldoni,
00:23:45.020 blah, blah, blah. And she's saying I attempted to evade his touch while staying visibly in character
00:23:51.360 and attempting to maintain my performance. She was so not in character during that entire scene
00:23:57.920 as we all saw. She was talking as Blake Lively to Justin and he was trying to be in character
00:24:04.620 while she was snapping out of character all the time.
00:24:12.240 I feel so nosy.
00:24:14.260 I even think just noses.
00:24:15.940 My nose is so big.
00:24:17.200 It is.
00:24:18.200 I was hoping that we could address this.
00:24:20.680 It's not too late.
00:24:22.180 Just got to shut down.
00:24:23.340 We've got to call an insurance month and just deal with that.
00:24:27.700 Cut.
00:24:28.460 Just kidding.
00:24:29.460 So that is not true because we've seen and we heard
00:24:33.040 In a separate scene, Baldoni covertly bit and sucked my lip without consent. 0.71
00:24:37.700 We still haven't seen that scene that he sucked her lip, but we've seen a scene where she sucked his lip.
00:24:44.400 And now she talks about what happened in her trailer when Justin Baldoni started crying.
00:24:49.660 She says on the second day of filming, Baldoni was upset and delayed production for hours as a result.
00:24:54.800 He came to my trailer and was emotional, crying at times.
00:24:58.380 he told me among other things that there were social media posts stating that I looked old
00:25:03.340 and unattractive. That was a shocking and painful thing to hear since I could not change my age or
00:25:10.120 body. No way that Justin Baldoni told Blake Lively that people thought she looked old and
00:25:18.320 unattractive. I just don't buy it. He would never say something like that. We know that he was
00:25:25.280 reacting to the online pictures of Blake Lively wearing horrific clothes because she was in charge
00:25:31.980 of wardrobe and she dressed herself and people were reacting to it. They also said that she was
00:25:38.020 too old to play Lily and Justin was worried that it was going to affect the success of the movie
00:25:43.020 and here interestingly enough Blake admits that she was getting backlash online and this happened
00:25:49.060 before that January 4th meeting when she had all these claims of no more of this and that.
00:25:57.140 So she can't blame that on the wayfair parties, that that was retaliation for anything. But the
00:26:04.300 fact that he would share with her that people said she looked old and unattractive, no way.
00:26:11.660 And then she talks about this drive that she had with Justin where he shared some personal
00:26:16.880 information with her and then she says prior to sharing this disturbing admission Baldoni grabbed
00:26:23.060 my female assistant's arm long and slow and said this stay in this car she's trying to make it sound
00:26:32.960 like he just grabbed someone and stay in this car but it's that he just took her arm and said stay in
00:26:39.500 the car I mean what and then she talks about how she started communicating with Jenny Slate
00:26:46.800 about all this disturbing behavior and then she also contacted Ange Giannetti from Sony and then
00:26:53.480 she gets into this January 4th meeting and this is quite interesting because the way Blake explains
00:26:59.020 what happened in this meeting is very different from the other people who were actually present
00:27:03.680 there. The purpose of the meeting was to confirm and approve a plan for the physical and emotional
00:27:08.760 safety of me, my employees and all the cast and crew and she says I asked my husband Reynolds to
00:27:15.880 join as my designating representative, given that most of what I was speaking about was
00:27:20.960 S.H. and feeling unsafe.
00:27:23.040 While he was one of the participants in the meeting and was candid and serious about his
00:27:27.460 concerns, Reynolds did not yell or raise his voice ever.
00:27:32.640 No participants, including Baldoni and Heath, expressed visible surprise when arriving for
00:27:37.780 the meeting or seeing Reynolds.
00:27:40.240 None of the attendees ever appeared surprise that the meeting was to discuss the serious
00:27:44.700 issues with production.
00:27:45.880 thus far and the unsafe work environment as mentioned in the protection letter.
00:27:50.960 Okay, so let's see what Ange Giannetti, the Sony representative, said about what happened at this
00:27:56.800 meeting. So she's obviously a non-party here and is being objective of what she observed at this
00:28:02.900 meeting. So Brian Friedman is asking her, were you invited to attend a meeting on January 4th,
00:28:09.020 2024 at Blake's apartment and she says I believe I asked for that meeting you asked for the meeting
00:28:17.480 was that supposed to be the return to work production meeting and she says I thought it
00:28:22.420 was a script meeting did anyone tell you before that you were what you were walking into she says
00:28:29.120 no but Blake did say when he when we confirmed time and place that she you know she wanted to
00:28:35.720 do a clearing of the air at the beginning. And I was like, okay, great. Were you surprised by what
00:28:42.700 you heard at the meeting? Very. What surprised you about it? Many things surprised me. I was
00:28:50.020 surprised at the beginning that Ryan was joining the meeting because I thought we were going to
00:28:54.540 be talking about the scripts and the schedule. And then they asked for the line producer to leave
00:29:00.140 because we had the, was it the line producer or I don't know,
00:29:03.540 we had some technical from the set to leave, which was fine.
00:29:08.120 And then she proceeded to read a list of things.
00:29:11.960 It was pretty shocking.
00:29:13.440 It was a pretty shocking list.
00:29:15.700 Why was it shocking, Friedman asks.
00:29:17.960 I had not heard the majority of the things on the list
00:29:20.440 and I didn't know that.
00:29:21.780 I just, I wasn't prepared for that
00:29:23.340 was the kind of meeting we were having.
00:29:25.340 And then Brian asks,
00:29:27.260 And isn't it true that you heard things that were pre-faced with no more this or no more that?
00:29:33.300 And she says, I think so.
00:29:34.900 And did that surprise you?
00:29:36.900 And she says, that specifically, I don't remember focusing on the content.
00:29:41.600 To me, it was more surprising.
00:29:43.600 And Friedman is asking, and was anybody addressing Justin directly?
00:29:47.380 And she says, yeah, I mean, it was to the room.
00:29:50.180 But yeah, I think it was mostly to Justin.
00:29:52.660 Friedman says, was Ryan Reynolds yelling at Justin?
00:29:55.160 and she says it was a very long meeting and there were times yes his voice was raised and Friedman
00:30:02.760 is asking did you feel bad for Justin and she says yes and then Friedman says why and she says
00:30:09.420 I think it went off I think it went over five hours and he was visibly frozen and then they
00:30:16.500 keep talking about who was invited to this meeting and so on so as you can see here very different
00:30:21.980 story that Blake is telling her in her sworn declaration of what really happened. And then
00:30:29.600 she talks about the edit, that she was so upset that she didn't get dailies every single day,
00:30:34.820 which is something that you as an executive producer, you can't just expect to get dailies
00:30:40.320 every day. As you know, as Blake even said herself, being an executive producer is basically a vanity
00:30:46.840 credits it doesn't mean that you have any responsibilities you most of the time it's just
00:30:52.320 people who finance the movie or that you're giving that credit to someone just to say thank you
00:30:57.720 whatever and Blake says here that she was expecting to see dailies every single day and she didn't get
00:31:04.240 that same thing with Colin Hoover by the way she also expected to see dailies every single day of
00:31:09.900 what they shot that day and they really didn't have any rights to do that and then I'll get into
00:31:14.420 that in another episode she keeps talking about how she was so upset about the young Lily scene
00:31:20.900 when she's losing her virginity to Atlas because she felt like it was so inappropriate to really
00:31:25.760 show that in the way that Justin Baldoni showed it because they were only 15 or 16 years old I
00:31:31.640 mean again this was supposed to be an R-rated movie and if you saw the scenes between the two
00:31:36.240 of them it was so sweet and soft there was nothing disturbing about that and also keeping in mind
00:31:42.660 that blake herself played a 15 16 year old in gossip girl and those love scenes that she did
00:31:48.440 on that show were much more graphic than what we see than what we saw in it ends with us and she
00:31:54.040 also talks about how justin's edit marginalized the females blah blah blah and glorified the
00:32:00.620 abuser like yeah it's also interesting how blake lively here is mentioning that they painted
00:32:06.440 themselves as the victim and me as the bully. So she's using the word bully here. And I think
00:32:13.000 the reason why she's doing that, saying that the way fair parties or Justin and Jamie painted 0.56
00:32:19.640 themselves as victims in that January 4th meeting, I think she's doing that to plant the seed that 0.95
00:32:26.700 they already planned back then to paint her as a bully. And that's why that word kept coming back 0.97
00:32:34.320 to haunt her during the smear campaign.
00:32:37.340 Yeah, I just think that it's fascinating
00:32:39.020 that she used that exact word here
00:32:41.080 because that's the word that she now claims
00:32:43.940 has cost her $40 million.
00:32:47.280 Okay, let's get to the end here.
00:32:48.940 So she also claims here in this declaration
00:32:51.860 that it was Justin Baldoni's idea
00:32:54.720 to put Taylor Swift in the trailer.
00:32:56.920 She says here on April 23rd, 2024,
00:33:00.120 Sony sent me a trailer of the film
00:33:01.980 featuring the Taylor Swift song,
00:33:03.680 My Tears Ricochet. At the time I received the trailer, I knew nothing about the trailer,
00:33:09.540 including that they ever wanted to use the song by Taylor. Baldoni was the only person who I had
00:33:16.020 ever heard mentioning wanting to include a song by Taylor Swift in the film, but that was during
00:33:21.540 production, and I was not even sure if he was serious at the time. Sony had not secured permission
00:33:27.360 to use the song. I was conflicted, but given my negative experience with Baldoni and Heath on the
00:33:32.540 film I shared the trailer with Swift and she later consented to the song's inclusion interesting
00:33:39.040 because when you look at the text messages between Blake and Taylor about this it seems like it
00:33:45.700 didn't happen that way so Taylor here is saying oh my god I just saw the above text and link
00:33:51.480 so Blake just sent her the trailer this is on April 26 2024 gonna watch now oh my god she says
00:33:59.860 it's amazing i'm so sorry i was in a daze and didn't see this first text wow i love how they
00:34:06.100 use the song she says welcome to hollywood justin and then blake says i'm not okay i can't breathe
00:34:13.760 i'm obsessed with you i've never felt more like khalishi i have dragons expect my dragons are
00:34:22.060 except my dragons are bred with curse herself then taylor says i'm just picturing you muttering 0.62
00:34:29.540 draqueries. And then I fire off those texts to Austin, Austin Swift. And then she says,
00:34:38.460 by the way, if Justin was strategic, he would be like no Taylor Swift in the trailer because that
00:34:45.160 gives you more power over the film. That's your ally, not his. Blake says, get yourself a best
00:34:51.940 friend who thinks like the actual Roman empire. Taylor says his misogyny runs so deep. He thinks
00:34:58.140 women are incapable of winning chess matches or making long game power plays and Blake says you're
00:35:04.760 so right and so wickedly smart to call it he shouldn't have run from he should have run from 1.00
00:35:10.740 your music I never thought about that but holy shit how stupid this was his only shot at having 1.00
00:35:17.180 the appearance of an upper hand so does that sound like to you that it was Justin's idea to 0.99
00:35:23.380 put Taylor Swift's song in the trailer? I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, but why on earth would he
00:35:29.720 do that? As you know, also in later text messages, Blake and Taylor were having a conversation where
00:35:36.180 Blake said that she was so upset with Justin, more upset about that than anything she had
00:35:41.960 experienced with him, that she said that he had said that he wasn't familiar with Taylor's music
00:35:47.720 and she thought that was so upsetting so why would she pick this song from taylor to put
00:35:53.680 in the trailer if he wasn't even familiar with her music and she's blake's best friend and she
00:35:59.320 didn't know about that there's something here that's really not adding up my tears ricochet
00:36:04.320 one of my favorite songs how did you and taylor decide that that would be the right song for this
00:36:08.540 i mean all of her songs are great we could have put any song up there could have like a voice
00:36:12.180 memo song it would have been the best song to ever have been in a movie and at the end here she's
00:36:15.660 explaining why she reached out to all those people where she was backstabbing Justin Baldoni and she
00:36:20.800 says in my 22 years experience in the entertainment industry the process of seeking feedback from
00:36:26.480 trusted and successful creatives in the way to get the best final product and many of my favorite
00:36:32.880 filmmakers and creatives do that on every single project it's a huge opportunity for all stakeholders
00:36:39.440 and for the audience to have such valuable input if you can get it. 0.91
00:36:45.080 She's also claiming here that they are just accusing her of controlling the movie.
00:36:51.800 Well, that's not what happened at all.
00:36:54.260 She was just contributing with her expertise and all her friends' expertise.
00:36:59.400 And then she signs it.
00:37:00.320 I declare penalty of perjury that the forging is true and correct
00:37:05.180 and that this declaration was executed on December 3rd, 2025.
00:37:11.420 Yes!
00:37:12.280 That's it for me in this episode.
00:37:13.640 This turned out to be a really long one,
00:37:15.180 but I really wanted to go through Blake's declaration
00:37:17.680 so we all have that fresh in mind before the trial starts,
00:37:22.080 what she actually claims happened.
00:37:24.440 It's quite interesting and fascinating to read it in her own words.
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