Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Blake in Deep Trouble !!

00:00:00.000 And the judge has rules. I think this gave Blake even more fuel to continue this fight at trial.

00:00:12.020 Hi and welcome to Flossome Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:19.940 and the judge has ruled so he is now saying that TAG, Justin Baldoni's crisis management company

00:00:28.820 is not off the hook. This was pretty surprising because I've listened to so many attorneys

00:00:34.540 who've said that it's about 90% chance that the judge will toss out two more of Blake's claims

00:00:40.700 before trial and now I'm not sure if this actually also means that they're keeping

00:00:45.420 the Wayfair claim still. This is just about tag but this is quite interesting and I'm sure that

00:00:52.060 Blake is going to think this is a big win for her and going to go out in the media now claiming this

00:00:57.000 victory that she still has three claims out of those 13. But keep in mind this does not mean

00:01:03.360 that the judge actually believes that there was a smear campaign. He's just saying I don't want

00:01:09.000 to deal with this. This is up to a jury to decide. I'll get more into this in details tomorrow.

00:01:15.420 This just dropped so I haven't had the chance to read through all of it yet and I will of course

00:01:20.420 keep you posted on what happens here. I think this gave Blake even more fuel to continue this fight

00:01:26.280 at trial. So one of Blake Lively's experts was trying to compare Justin Baldoni to Harvey Weinstein

00:01:35.560 and of course it backfired on him big time. This is hilarious and I can't wait to share it with you.

00:01:41.660 Also, is Taylor Swift secretly shading Blake in her tribute to her new BFF, Dakota Johnson,

00:01:50.180 in the Time 100 Most Influential list?

00:01:53.280 Remember what happened last year, by the way, when Blake was on that list?

00:01:56.980 This is funny.

00:01:57.980 Also in California Post, which is basically New York Post here in California,

00:02:02.560 is talking about how much Blake Lively deserves the Mean Girl label.

00:02:06.740 And we have to talk about how Blake is fighting to keep the fat-shaming evidence in trial

00:02:13.100 because she feels it's so important to paint a picture of Justin.

00:02:16.780 Yes, this drama never ends.

00:02:19.000 Let's first take a look at this Time 100 list.

00:02:21.920 And thank you, Francesca, by the way, for sending me this.

00:02:24.440 Okay, remember last year when Blake Lively was on that list,

00:02:27.220 Time 100 most influential list, and everyone was like, what?

00:02:31.380 Well, didn't she just claim that her career was over and Justin Baldoni ruined it

00:02:35.320 And now she's one of the most influential people in the world.

00:02:38.120 Not a good look.

00:02:38.920 But anyways, this year, Dakota Johnson is on the list.

00:02:42.720 And Taylor Swift wrote a contribution to explain what an amazing person Dakota Johnson is.

00:02:48.980 The reason why I'm laughing a little bit here is because I feel like she's describing someone that's the opposite of Blake.

00:02:55.440 Let me know what you think.

00:02:56.480 Taylor says, nearly 20 years into her fascinatingly varied and eclectic career, everyone is still getting to know Dakota.

00:03:05.860 And it seems the more they learn, the more there is to fall in love with.

00:03:10.460 In recent years, as she promoted her films, the name Dakota Johnson became synonymous with refreshing honesty in a world of media-trained answers.

00:03:19.900 Maybe it's her sing-song vocal delivery, serenely answering questions with such frank

00:03:25.340 candor, it makes you feel like maybe this girl just can't lie.

00:03:30.700 That's where I was like, oh, she's talking about Blake here.

00:03:34.040 But anyways, as her friend, I can vouch for her realness, but add that she's also one

00:03:40.560 of the most empathetic people I've ever known.

00:03:43.300 And maybe it's true that she can't lie.

00:03:46.300 But I'll tell you a few more things that she can't do. 0.77

00:03:50.600 She can't stop asking people questions about their lives, 0.98

00:03:53.700 endlessly curious about everyone else's human experience.

00:03:58.140 Remember how she was complaining to Blake that it's all about you.

00:04:01.480 Everything is just about you and this drama all the time.

00:04:04.720 And I'm getting really upset about it in that text message she sent,

00:04:08.120 which is the last text we've seen between them before things got really sour.

00:04:13.200 Yeah.

00:04:14.060 Also here she says she can't stop challenging herself,

00:04:17.160 taking newer and bolder risks like building her production company,

00:04:20.860 Tea Time Pictures.

00:04:21.740 We all know what happened to Blake Lively's production company,

00:04:25.300 B for Effort.

00:04:26.240 She has zero projects in the works.

00:04:29.900 She comes by it honestly.

00:04:32.740 I feel like if there's something we learned about Blake

00:04:35.560 is that she is not honest.

00:04:38.100 So let me know what you think.

00:04:39.700 Did Taylor have Blake in mind also when she wrote this for Dakota?

00:04:43.540 to tell her you know this is what a real friend is you're not and also remember last year who

00:04:49.840 actually wrote for Blake it was the president and director council of the NACP legal defense

00:04:57.960 and educational fund not as glamorous as having Taylor Swift write this for you which would have

00:05:05.860 been natural of course if they were still friends at that point and she said about Blake I don't know

00:05:11.740 the Blake Lively of the red carpet or the Met Gala. I never watched Gossip Girl. The Blake Lively

00:05:17.540 I know is a philanthropist and a student of our country's most intractable problems. She and her 0.96

00:05:25.700 husband Ryan Reynolds reached out in 2019 to make a contribute to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund.

00:05:34.440 So as you know, after they got married on a plantation, they felt terrible because of the

00:05:39.880 backlash not that they actually did it but because they were caught by the public and saying like

00:05:44.920 that's very inappropriate and they came out and they apologized and then they gave some money to

00:05:50.080 NAACP in 2019 and six years later Blake ended up on this most influential list because of that

00:05:58.220 it was such an absurd choice of them to actually put her on that list and everyone was reacting to

00:06:03.620 it and I was thinking at that moment this is terrible for her lawsuit because it looks like

00:06:08.840 you know when you're on a time 100 most influential list you're influential and on top

00:06:14.020 of that the president of time 100 said in an interview and asked about Blake she said she's

00:06:19.460 had a great year so in terms of her claiming all these damages from Justin Baldoni when she was on 0.80

00:06:26.780 this list that's gonna work against her obviously yeah all of this just points to how hypocritical

00:06:33.500 and how corrupt these systems are, that these lists, they really don't matter.

00:06:38.540 And I think for Blake's sake, this was just a terrible idea.

00:06:41.240 And I'm sure Ryan and Leslie pulled some strings, obviously, to get her on that list.

00:06:47.040 And now it's about to backfire.

00:06:49.240 Okay, so let's talk about this expert, Michael Robbins.

00:06:52.280 So part of his deposition was just filed in the docket.

00:06:56.760 So as you know, Blake has a lot of experts and they're all trying to explain

00:06:59.680 why Blake Lyley should get a ton of money from Justin Baldoni.

00:07:04.100 That's been their main goal when they're writing these reports.

00:07:07.100 And after Baldoni's team has read the reports,

00:07:09.860 they can depose each expert and ask them questions.

00:07:13.780 And they did.

00:07:15.020 And parts of this deposition of Michael Robbins

00:07:17.620 has now been made public on the docket.

00:07:20.420 And this is really interesting stuff.

00:07:22.680 It's so obvious what they're trying to do here.

00:07:26.360 And they fail so dramatically.

00:07:28.980 So here this expert is trying to compare Justin Baldoni to Harvey Weinstein.

00:07:35.700 So they start talking about how the entertainment industry is different from all other industries.

00:07:41.060 And it's so much easier to get a reputation ruined when you're part of those industry.

00:07:45.300 Music, fashion, movies, I think they're mentioning here.

00:07:48.240 Anyways, so an attorney is asking the expert here, what other industries does it exist in?

00:07:54.440 And the expert responds, so it could also exist in music, which is related and to a lesser degree in fashion, which is sort of related and that's about it.

00:08:04.780 And with respect to lawyers, no. And respect to electricians, no.

00:08:10.480 Okay, so no smear campaigns against lawyers and electricians, which is actually not true because there was a smear campaign from Blake Lively on Brian Friedman.

00:08:19.640 we've seen it anyways okay but you think there's something unique about music fashion and movies

00:08:26.260 and television correct and he says yes and the attorney is asking you think it's harder to

00:08:31.640 recover from reputational damage correct and the witness is harder to recover and the lawyer says

00:08:37.860 what is your opinion with respect to why don't you try to articulate it because i'm having a hard

00:08:43.520 time with it. And the expert says, sure. So that unlike other industries in the entertainment

00:08:50.140 industry, there are people who, because either of great influence or power or money, can either

00:08:55.880 destroy people's careers or can attempt to destroy people's careers. And that does not exist

00:09:02.480 otherwise. And so examples are, of course, Weinstein. First of all, I disagree completely.

00:09:08.920 You can totally ruin people's lives.

00:09:11.020 Everyone that's in the public eye, a politician, for example, journalists,

00:09:15.580 anyone who's putting their name out there can be a victim of someone trying to smear them.

00:09:20.440 That's so obvious.

00:09:21.520 But anyways, let's continue here after he's comparing it, after he brings in Harvey Weinstein.

00:09:27.040 So the attorney is saying, right, and you give the example of Weinstein.

00:09:30.580 Are you analogizing Justin Baldoni to Harvey Weinstein?

00:09:34.040 and he says only in the attempt to try to destroy people's careers but in terms of the amount of

00:09:41.220 influence no in terms of the amount of money available maybe yes because mr sarowicz was

00:09:47.480 financing a lot of this and he's apparently a billionaire or something like that i feel this

00:09:54.100 expert sounds like he's just like guessing or something like that either you're a billionaire

00:09:59.420 or you're not, you're not just a billionaire or something like that. Anyways, does Mr. Baldoni

00:10:04.380 have the same influence that Mr. Weinstein had, he asks. And here the expert says, now, no. Now,

00:10:12.160 yes. But then, no. Now he has more influence than Mr. Weinstein has. Mr. Weinstein has none right

00:10:19.300 now. But at the time, no. Okay, so we all know that Weinstein is in jail. So he doesn't have

00:10:24.260 much influence over Hollywood the way he did. But his answers, I mean, can you imagine this guy

00:10:29.480 being on the stand and being asked about this? Because the reason why they do these depositions

00:10:34.460 as well is that now they have all this in writing. So he needs to have his answers exactly the same

00:10:40.100 as he said in this deposition when he's on that stand in front of a jury as well. Okay, so the

00:10:45.600 attorney continues. And Mr. Baldoni didn't have as much influence in the industry, in the Hollywood

00:10:51.540 industry that Mr. Reynolds corrects and the expert says I think that's probably true but also unlike

00:10:58.920 Weinstein the way you can try to influence people has changed dramatically and certainly compared to

00:11:05.080 Alfred Hitchcock for example and Tippi Hedren because now you have social media he brings in

00:11:12.520 Alfred Hitchcock here as well because he's like yes I know Hollywood history here I've studied

00:11:17.900 this. Alfred Hitchcock was trying to smear Tippi Hedren, but they didn't have social media.

00:11:23.120 Anyways, and then he says that largely didn't exist then. That's true. It largely didn't exist.

00:11:28.320 They didn't have social media. And with enough money, you can do things that you couldn't do

00:11:33.660 before, even if you have less influence, as long as you have got money. First of all, I don't think

00:11:40.720 that's true because actually back then you had real media and everyone was reading the same news

00:11:48.000 outlets. You didn't have as many outlets and the publicists had a lot of power back then. Now we

00:11:53.800 have social media but it's really messy out there and it's not that easy to get your opinions heard

00:11:58.760 because it's so much noise. So I actually don't agree. Although everyone has a voice today but

00:12:05.420 every person on the internet does not have the power to put anything on the agenda. A newspaper

00:12:10.840 does, a magazine does. Just look at the impact of that New York Times article and what that did,

00:12:17.320 how much attention that gave Blake Lylee. So don't say that social media is more powerful than

00:12:23.780 something like that. He continues here to ask, and Mr. Reynolds have money, right? And the expert

00:12:30.140 says, I'm sorry, sure he does. Oops, I'm about to look a little stupid here. I think he's thinking 0.99

00:12:36.040 at this moment. And then the attorney says, okay, a lot of money, right? And he says, I don't know

00:12:42.040 details, but a lot of money. Yes, that is just a little snippet of this expert's deposition. And

00:12:48.920 I'm like, how are they going to use this guy to convince the jury? That's one thing. But also the

00:12:53.840 fact that they're bringing up here, Ryan Reynolds had more money and more influence than Justin

00:12:59.840 Baldoni. So, and we know that he tried to smear Justin, but he was not successful. He tried to

00:13:05.820 smear him as a nice pull in his movie. And he also tried to smear him by getting him fired from WME,

00:13:12.880 the same agency that represented himself. And he was successful in that, but he was only

00:13:18.280 successful in smearing Baldoni for one week. And that week was between when Blake Lively went to

00:13:23.460 the New York Times and that article was published until Justin Baldoni responded. That week,

00:13:28.880 everyone was like oh my god Blake is a victim this is horrible all these things that happen on that

00:13:33.540 set and the smear campaign wow terrible terrible and then Justin came out with the receipts and

00:13:39.200 everyone was like oh okay something's not adding up here and now we start seeing the real truth

00:13:44.740 the real truth has been alive on social media for over a year now and just recently we've seen

00:13:51.600 traditional media follow but that didn't happen until very recently so Blake had the traditional

00:13:57.040 media on her site throughout this entire year and they kept feeding the media with positive

00:14:03.580 stories about her and her lawyers kept painting Justin Baldoni as a predator. But as you could see

00:14:09.800 a lot of money and a lot of power didn't help when people actually saw the truth.

00:14:15.940 That's what this expert is going to have real problem with explaining to a jury. Also remember

00:14:22.140 how the media tried to make it look like Weinstein was supporting Justin Baldoni? Remember this

00:14:28.480 headline from TMZ saying Harvey Weinstein to New York Times, I feel for Baldoni. You cherry-picked

00:14:35.420 info to fit your narrative. And all the other media outlets picked it up saying Harvey Weinstein

00:14:41.200 just came out and supported Baldoni, which wasn't a great look for Baldoni. Let's be honest about

00:14:46.080 that. But then Harvey came out and corrected this and he was picked up by Vanity Fair who did this

00:14:51.540 headline. Congratulations, Justin Baldoni. Harvey Weinstein is not on your side. In a statement

00:14:58.200 issued to Vanity Fair, a representative for Weinstein clarified his earlier comments about

00:15:03.180 Baldoni Lively legal dispute and the New York Times. And the representative said to Vanity Fair,

00:15:09.280 he's not familiar with the details and has only ever had the kindest, warmest interactions with

00:15:15.100 both Blake and Ryan. As you know, Weinstein has a very special relationship to Blake Lively,

00:15:20.920 through her publicist, Leslie Sloan.

00:15:24.180 And of course, this connection came up again during this lawsuit.

00:15:27.260 In 2025, a rep for Leslie Sloan said this to Page Six.

00:15:32.660 She said, they said, Leslie Sloan never represented Harvey Weinstein.

00:15:37.620 In 2014, after Sloan left BWR, she and Weinstein engaged in preliminary discussions

00:15:45.420 concerning a potential working relationship with their companies,

00:15:49.520 but that never came to fruition.

00:15:51.580 Contrary to false rumors being spread online,

00:15:54.160 Sloan has never worked to silence victims of SA in any way

00:15:58.220 and indeed has actively supported victims of SA.

00:16:02.440 So let's look at this headline in the Hollywood Reporter from 2014.

00:16:06.500 It says Harvey Weinstein backing publicist Leslie Sloan's new venture.

00:16:11.320 Sloan, whose clients include Katie Holmes, Blake Lively and Megan Fox,

00:16:15.620 is expected to bring most of her star roster to her new company,

00:16:20.380 also to be backed by James Dolan.

00:16:23.380 So here it basically confirms that Leslie Sloan was financially backed by Harvey Weinstein.

00:16:28.680 So yes, I find it very ironic that this expert is bringing up Harvey Weinstein.

00:16:33.320 And since he brought him up, it would also be natural for the defense to bring that up

00:16:39.320 if he's ever on the stand to bring up the connection with Blake Lively's publicist and Harvey Weinstein.

00:16:45.620 because they're not the ones who actually brought it up.

00:16:47.920 Anyways, let's look at this California Post article,

00:16:50.640 where it says that Blake demanding 300 million over-alleged mean girl claims against her

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00:18:50.620 okay so let's get back into it so yes california post which is new york post in california

00:18:55.900 says this why blake lively demanding a 300 million over alleged mean girl claims against her is oh

00:19:02.520 so ironic what a lively sense of humor you have blake this reporter starts off with in new court 0.99

00:19:10.020 documents the beleaguered actress claims that being labeled a mean girl in her mucky legal

00:19:14.580 battle against justin baldoni lost her nearly 300 million dollars and the journalist continues 0.96

00:19:21.180 yeah yeah yeah and i should receive reparations for having to watch her pathetic stab at boston 1.00

00:19:27.060 accent in the town i'm still reeling and she says the former gossip girl star and wife of 1.00

00:19:33.200 uber wealthy actor ryan reynolds claims that she lost as much as 40 million thanks to alleged

00:19:39.820 reputational damage from a smear campaign in the press involving the retaliatory phrases tone deaf

00:19:46.080 bully and mean girl lively alleges that she also missed out on past and future income between 34

00:19:53.080 to 38 million from missed acting and endorsement opportunities and she claims she's lost 39.6 0.98

00:19:59.620 million to 143 million in profits from her hair can and booze brands that she hawked during the

00:20:05.700 promotion of it ends with us the movie that caused all these drama the journalist continues this 0.86

00:20:10.660 campaign accusation is laughable lively shouldn't blame baldoni for those derisive labels she can

00:20:16.920 thank herself and she continues to say we learned who she is by washing her she says we saw strange

00:20:22.780 interactions with reporters during the promotion of It Ends With Us discussing the DV like it was

00:20:27.780 a sunny floral arrangement. Then there is the damning sit-down with the Norwegian journalist

00:20:33.300 Kjersti Flo while Lively was promoting Woody Allen's 2016 period piece Café Society. Flo has

00:20:40.180 called it the Blake Lively interview that made me want to quit my job. In it, a pregnant Lively 0.98

00:20:45.820 mocked Flo after the journalist congratulated her on her bump. Then she and co-star Parker Posey 0.99

00:20:51.620 really dug in when Flo asked them about their wardrobe in the 1930s set movie. Then she talks

00:20:57.640 about how horrific my interview was with Blake and how everyone saw it and how uncomfortable it

00:21:03.360 was to watch it and she comments on it saying it is the kind of behavior associated with insecure

00:21:08.860 tween girls trying to find their way in the middle school ecosystem. This is why people think Blake 0.97

00:21:15.180 Lively is grade A 100% mean girl. Her team underestimate the intelligence of the general 0.92

00:21:23.080 public. And she adds, now Lively is living through a reputational nightmare, which could have been

00:21:29.020 avoided if not for her ego and narcissism. Yes. I mean, her reputation right now is so much worse

00:21:37.160 than it was during the promotion of It Ends With Us. So yes, as I said the other day, she's still

00:21:41.980 claiming that the smear that the smear campaign is ongoing or like ryan reynolds said in that

00:21:47.320 interview interview the other day that was a sponsored event that he was paid to be on

00:21:51.740 like he said you know people don't people don't understand what's going on here you have the real

00:21:58.000 world and then you have the digital world and that's just like no one really understands it 0.97

00:22:02.540 because you guys are dumb dumb yeah it's not looking good for ryan either and if you look 0.99

00:22:07.160 at his reputation now, it has tanked. And is he going to blame Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair 0.99

00:22:13.540 parties for that too? Because if what's happening to Ryan right now is organic, he had to close off

00:22:20.260 his comment section after Blake Lively sued the Wayfair parties. So if his reputation can get

00:22:26.560 ruined like this organically, how come that Blake's reputation was ruined inorganically? I think that's

00:22:33.680 a good argument, don't you? Anyways, this article was really great and they're going through

00:22:38.280 everything that she did and how she took over the movie and Taylor Swift and how she dragged all her

00:22:42.640 friends into this as well and how 10 out of her 13 claims have been tossed out. And she ends it

00:22:48.160 here saying, even if the actress eventually wins the battle, she has already lost the war. The world

00:22:53.880 has seen the real Blake, an arsonist who burned down her own house. Baldoni shouldn't have to pay

00:22:59.460 to rebuild it. Well said. Anyways, here is another interesting article in the Daily Mail saying

00:23:05.820 Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's studio lawyers tangle over remarks he made about her waits ahead

00:23:11.260 of trial. So as you know, Blake has been fighting to keep all her evidence in. And here they continue

00:23:16.840 lawyers for Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's production studio. I'm so happy that they're

00:23:21.560 saying production studio is his production studio, but it's not him personally. We have to remember

00:23:26.140 that are tangling over whether remarks Baldoni allegedly made about Lively's weight will be

00:23:31.540 revealed to the jury in trial surrounding the production of their 2024 film It Ends With Us.

00:23:38.020 So the Wayfair parties have already asked to keep this evidence out of court because they feel like

00:23:43.820 why is this relevant? As you know, Justin Baldoni is not personally sued anymore. So why would this

00:23:49.720 remark or this request, I would call it, be a part of their evidence. I actually think it would kind

00:23:57.160 of benefit them to have that in there because it would actually show people how insecure Blake

00:24:02.720 Lively is. And as you know, there is a recording from Blake herself where she's asking Justin as

00:24:08.960 a friend, she's asking, she uses that word and she's asking him to wait to shoot the intimate

00:24:14.600 scenes because she's not in shape yet. And she says that she's trying really, really hard to get

00:24:19.440 back into shape and she works out every single day because she wants to look her best. So the

00:24:24.540 way I see it I think this would just benefit Justin and as someone reminded me on the other

00:24:29.240 day here thank you so much by the way is that it wasn't only for Justin Baldoni's own safety that

00:24:35.040 he asked for her waist because as you know he had a back issue so he was worried if he could

00:24:39.600 actually lift her but it was also for her own safety. If his back would give in that could harm

00:24:47.160 Blake as well if he wasn't able to hold her up and fell down whatever she could also get hurt

00:24:53.640 and he also wanted to make sure that she wouldn't get hurt and as you know Judge Lyman also commented

00:24:59.040 on that tearing it apart saying like hey you knew what you signed up for there were commitments in

00:25:05.160 regards to aesthetics to this role and you also admitted that and you said that you wanted to

00:25:10.920 work hard to achieve that and you also said to Justin that you and Ryan see this as athletic

00:25:17.120 events when you sign up for movies like this because you want to deliver a hundred percent

00:25:21.420 all the time so yeah I say bring the fat shaming in if I was in that jury and I would hear her

00:25:26.860 talking about that I would be like no girl now I understand more and more what this person is all 0.97

00:25:32.780 about but anyways I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the strategy here but I think for her to 0.89

00:25:37.920 fight for that fat shaming comment is just so dumb anyways that's it for me you guys i hope

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Blake in Deep Trouble !!

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