Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Blake is TOAST !!!

00:00:00.000 This text alone proves that there was no smear campaign.

00:00:10.260 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sáští Fló, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:19.280 This is insane. So much tea. I don't know where to start.

00:00:25.780 Today is a major day, by the way, because today they haven't filed it yet, but we're all waiting for the summary judgments to be filed from Baldoni's team and from Blake Lively's team.

00:00:37.440 And I'm sure there's going to be even more juice coming out of that. But for now, we have so much to talk about.

00:00:44.880 So yesterday, Melissa Nathan filed a response to Blake Lively because she tried to sanction her last week, saying that Melissa Nathan hasn't given us the documents we asked for.

00:00:57.880 She's been redacting parts of it and we asked for that. Blah, blah, blah.

00:01:02.260 Today, Melissa Nathan or yesterday, Melissa Nathan responded and she said, I did give you all these documents and here they are again for you to see.

00:01:10.800 And she also explained that she had been giving her these documents and that Baldoni had been giving her these documents and Blake Lively herself had actually filed these documents.

00:01:21.640 So it's all BS. And again, another attempt to just divert the attention from what's really important here.

00:01:29.400 But what came from this, this is the best part.

00:01:32.780 What came from this is that we got access to see all these text messages and emails.

00:01:38.320 And this is what's so mind-blowing to me, because when we read all these text messages between Baldoni's team, we just realized that there was no smear campaign.

00:01:50.760 All they did, you can see through all these text messages, was trying to just defend themselves against all the bad articles or all the bad publicity that Blake's team planted.

00:02:03.740 Also, in this text exchange, you can see what Colleen Hoover actually did and what a snake she is, how she's been lying and how they have all the evidence to prove that she did.

00:02:22.020 This is so terrible for Colleen Hoover.

00:02:25.220 And this is the result of Blake Lively asking for those sanctions.

00:02:30.380 She keeps shooting herself in the foot.

00:02:33.100 And at this point, I'm wondering if her attorneys are working with the other side, because this is too good to be true.

00:02:40.180 There's also a bombshell of a filing from Jennifer Abel here.

00:02:45.540 She filed her summary judgment, asking the judge to look at her case with this in mind, that she was hired by Stephanie Jones and Jones Works.

00:02:58.820 She's showing her contract and everything she was hired to do.

00:03:03.000 And she was only working on behalf of what she was told to do and what she was hired to do by Stephanie Jones and Jones Work. 0.90

00:03:10.800 And because of that, she's not liable for those actions.

00:03:15.580 So whatever comes from Blake Lively's lawsuit, she should not have to pay any of those damages.

00:03:25.260 Stephanie Jones have to pay those. 1.00

00:03:27.860 Meaning, if Blake Lively wins, Stephanie Jones is screwed. 1.00

00:03:33.820 So Stephanie Jones is the person who took Jennifer Abel's phone while she was working for her or when she wanted to leave the company and gave it to Blake Lively to throw her colleague under the bus.

00:03:46.100 And all and those text messages ended up, as you know, in New York Times, they used them to smear Justin Baldoni and the wafer parties.

00:03:53.560 And all these lawsuits came from that.

00:03:56.400 And now it's full circle and it really backfires on Stephanie Jones. 1.00

00:04:01.620 I spoke about this before, how Jennifer Abel actually also could ask Stephanie Jones to cover her legal fees for fighting against Blake Lively and Stephanie Jones, which is really funny.

00:04:13.880 And now she's telling the judge here, like, you know what?

00:04:17.180 I'm not liable for anything I did.

00:04:19.320 Yeah, I'm glad I'm not Stephanie Jones today.

00:04:21.820 This is terrible.

00:04:22.840 This is so terrible.

00:04:24.160 OK, so let's get into these juicy text messages.

00:04:27.280 I think this text alone proves that there was no smear campaign.

00:04:33.640 So listen to what Jamie Heath, Justin Baldoni's colleague from the wafer party, sent to the team.

00:04:41.920 OK, so in this text, he's referring to an article.

00:04:44.220 I think it was in The Hollywood Reporter.

00:04:46.020 And he's saying, there is some misinformation here for sure.

00:04:49.120 And yet I see this as a win.

00:04:51.680 Let her be praised by Sony.

00:04:53.900 Who cares?

00:04:54.780 It's not a bullet at us.

00:04:56.860 Finally, there's an article that's not directed at Justin.

00:05:00.800 Let her be praised by Sony.

00:05:04.440 Does that sound like someone who is involved in a smear campaign to take someone down?

00:05:11.660 Let her be praised.

00:05:13.540 I see this as a win.

00:05:15.660 He also says here, and honestly, I don't care who Sony nestles up to.

00:05:19.660 As long as they can put out a movie of ours and make money so that we can be wayfair and do what we do.

00:05:25.900 And then I'm good.

00:05:27.140 Let's not lose sight of the big picture.

00:05:29.960 Right now, that is to keep bullets away from Justin, away from me, and away from wayfarer.

00:05:38.500 And if that comes at the expense of her being praised, then so be it.

00:05:44.520 That's what kind of person Jamie Heath is.

00:05:48.660 He is saying, let them praise her.

00:05:51.400 That's a win for us as long as they're not coming for us.

00:05:54.700 I am fine with this.

00:05:56.160 I know it's frustrating, he says here, but let's take the high road.

00:06:00.260 As they kept doing.

00:06:02.020 How can anyone claim that there is a smear campaign when you read this text message?

00:06:06.840 Then there's another text exchange here.

00:06:08.580 This is from Henry Grace, which is Justin Badone's alias.

00:06:12.340 I don't know why he chose that name.

00:06:14.020 But anyways, he's saying here, are we doing anything to influence this stuff?

00:06:17.920 Or is this real people helping and coming to my defense?

00:06:22.460 So he's been obviously on TikTok or reading stuff online, people that are defending him.

00:06:28.400 And then Jennifer Abel says, no, no, no, no fake accounts.

00:06:33.620 None of that.

00:06:35.560 Real people coming to your defense.

00:06:37.940 Trust.

00:06:38.340 It's astonishing to see the enormous outpouring of support, but it's 100% real.

00:06:45.780 If they were doing any of these, don't you think that they would have that conversation

00:06:49.960 in some text messages somewhere?

00:06:53.840 Then Justin says, people are thinking it's us and watch that video.

00:06:58.380 Just want to be mindful of swell turning.

00:07:01.060 But you guys know this game.

00:07:02.480 I've never been involved in anything before.

00:07:04.980 Then Justin texts this.

00:07:08.680 He's saying, I'm a little more concerned about these TikToks claiming they know information 1.00

00:07:13.960 and there are some dark, disturbing stories about me that are going to break as they're

00:07:20.120 getting DMs.

00:07:21.620 And the only way that would be happening if there are lies.

00:07:26.740 So I know a lot of content creators have come forward and said that they received DMs from

00:07:33.640 anonymous sources saying like, don't say anything bad about Blake because there's some really

00:07:39.900 disturbing things coming out about Justin Baldoni.

00:07:42.560 So you want to be on the right side of this.

00:07:45.320 That happened.

00:07:46.800 And Justin Baldoni was aware of that happening.

00:07:49.780 Then Melissa is responding to Justin saying, I personally, I'm not concerned about this because

00:07:55.660 we all know there are no dark and disturbing stories.

00:07:59.460 And she says they want more clicks.

00:08:01.280 They want more views. 0.99

00:08:02.320 And at the end of the day, they will be reguriating complete rubbish. 0.95

00:08:07.660 And she says here and referencing to the Australian podcast you saw. 0.90

00:08:12.580 And it seems like here she's talking about Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard that Justin had heard

00:08:18.580 something on a podcast.

00:08:19.540 And she says that and referencing to Australian podcast you saw. 0.99

00:08:23.120 That's complete garbage. 0.91

00:08:24.580 I can tell you hand on my heart, there was four women working on that trial and I was 0.99

00:08:30.900 one of them.

00:08:31.840 Not one Russian bot in sight.

00:08:34.840 It's actually very similar to what you're having right now.

00:08:38.360 The outpouring of love and support being weaponized against you by her side because it can't be

00:08:45.460 true.

00:08:46.060 It's so funny how they used that in that New York Times article saying because Melissa

00:08:50.900 Nathan was hired by Johnny Depp, she must be using bots here too because she was accused

00:08:57.080 of using bots by Amber Heard.

00:08:59.440 You know, I was also accused of being in collaboration with Melissa Nathan in that New York Times article.

00:09:04.520 And as we've seen from all the evidence that have come out, I am not mentioned anywhere.

00:09:10.700 There is no communication with me anywhere because obviously there was no, but there's

00:09:16.320 also no communication with any content creators.

00:09:20.040 They've only spoken to journalists for big outlets.

00:09:24.080 There is no evidence that they ever spoke directly to any content creators, which I also find

00:09:29.480 interesting.

00:09:29.920 What they keep doing in this entire thread is keep saying that we should amplify and push

00:09:36.720 the posts that are positive towards Justin Baldoni.

00:09:41.440 That is not smearing Blake.

00:09:44.060 They're just trying to save themselves here and they're tight and they're taking the high

00:09:48.980 road the entire time.

00:09:50.880 There is nothing in any of these communications saying anything bad about Blake Lively or saying

00:09:56.780 anything bad about her persona.

00:09:59.220 Nothing.

00:09:59.920 Okay, now we have to get to the Colin Hoover bit because that is so juicy.

00:10:05.420 So Colin Hoover sent a text to Justin.

00:10:08.140 Apparently they hadn't spoken in a really long time here because she had already jumped over

00:10:14.360 to Blake Lively's side and decided to support her.

00:10:18.020 So Justin here is sharing with the team a text that he got from Colin Hoover where she says

00:10:23.520 amongst other things that she was really disappointed in him because she didn't have a

00:10:29.220 say in the script of It Ends With Us.

00:10:33.240 She is really offended by this article in the rap where Justin said that she was part of

00:10:40.160 the process the entire time and she denies that.

00:10:43.660 And apparently she had posted something.

00:10:45.920 I don't know what she posted, but apparently she posted something that was very offensive

00:10:51.320 towards the Wayfair parties or she said something that she regretted afterwards.

00:10:56.980 I think she keeps doing these things that she says things and then she regrets it.

00:11:01.200 I think maybe she needs some therapy because, as you know, she deleted her whole Instagram

00:11:07.440 account after all of this came out.

00:11:10.360 Anyways, Jennifer Abel here is saying, Justin Baldoni's publicist is saying, Jamie and I

00:11:16.380 spoke.

00:11:17.060 They are deleting the post.

00:11:18.960 Take this opportunity to open a dialogue with her.

00:11:22.000 Apologize.

00:11:22.660 Communicate that if you read the interview, it doesn't mean he's cut out the sequel, but

00:11:28.040 it was the decision of how to end the film.

00:11:30.940 So they're also talking about here how he wanted to end the film differently than it was

00:11:35.940 in the book, because in the book, Ryle and Lily were co-parenting their child and Justin

00:11:42.140 didn't like that ending because Ryle is abusive and he's like, I don't want them to end up

00:11:48.140 co-parenting the child because I don't think the DV community is going to like that. 1.00

00:11:53.580 So in this article, he talks about that and Colleen was really, really upset by it.

00:11:58.260 Then there's a lot of text messages back and forth on how he should respond to Colleen to

00:12:02.460 kind of get her to calm down about this. 0.99

00:12:04.820 And then Justin is sharing this text that Colleen wrote him where she said, amongst

00:12:09.260 other things, that she didn't have a say in the script.

00:12:14.800 It's a long message.

00:12:16.080 And she says that, I know things took an awful turn and I felt forced to choose when I did

00:12:21.260 not want to. 0.84

00:12:22.820 But the back and forth articles from both camps are just so upsetting and ridiculous, says 0.95

00:12:28.140 Colleen Hoover.

00:12:28.920 Well, that's a lie because now I'm going to share some text messages with you where you

00:12:51.260 can see how collaborative she was with Justin and the other way around.

00:12:56.240 And she says here that it started with me not being allowed to read the script until I was sat

00:13:01.940 with readers.

00:13:03.320 But then all the interviews made it seem like you included me in the script from the beginning.

00:13:08.160 I mean, this woman is so delusional because, of course, Justin has all the text messages 0.62

00:13:13.820 from her when they're collaborating on the script.

00:13:17.760 So this, I think, is from 2022.

00:13:20.520 She says, oh, I just finished.

00:13:21.960 Wow.

00:13:22.160 I think it's great.

00:13:23.120 OK, I'm really pleasantly surprised.

00:13:26.920 It's much closer to the book.

00:13:28.500 I totally understand the need for a lot of the changes.

00:13:32.200 There are only a handful of tiny notes.

00:13:34.860 They wouldn't need a rewrite or anything.

00:13:37.080 Just some tweaks if you agree with my thoughts.

00:13:39.400 But like I said, love it, think it's going to make the readers very happy, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:44.480 There's a lot of those texts going back and forth where it's so obvious that this is a

00:13:51.860 collaboration, that this script was a collaboration between Justin and Colleen.

00:13:56.940 It's so mind-blowing to me that she can lie in that text and make that up when she knows

00:14:02.560 there's so much evidence proving that they did collaborate on the script.

00:14:07.860 I feel like there's something wrong with her at this point.

00:14:11.620 Also something really heartbreaking here in these text messages, Justin mentioning how he

00:14:17.360 had a bromance with Brandon Sklenar for a year and then it all went silence.

00:14:22.940 And then he's sharing this text that he got from Isabella Ferrer of how wonderful the experience

00:14:27.920 was for her.

00:14:29.000 And then he also shares this text about Ryan Reynolds and how pity he is.

00:14:34.840 He said in a text, in other news, Ryan unblocked me and Emily, his wife, so he could spy on us.

00:14:44.220 She had a feeling and checked and she could see his name and then I checked and I could

00:14:49.300 search him as well.

00:14:50.680 I couldn't search him a week ago.

00:14:53.340 So Ryan first unfollowed and blocked Justin and then he unblocked him so that he could see

00:15:01.640 what he was up to.

00:15:02.540 That's how pity Ryan Reynolds really is.

00:15:05.900 Okay, so there's so much juice here.

00:15:07.360 I can't go through everything today.

00:15:09.060 I'm sure that the other summary judgments are going to be like probably filed at the end

00:15:14.440 of the day because that usually happens.

00:15:16.380 So there's going to be so much tomorrow as well.

00:15:19.020 But I just wanted to go quickly through what happens now with Jen Abel's case against Stephanie 0.51

00:15:26.080 Jones and how Stephanie Jones is so screwed. 1.00

00:15:29.600 So as I said in the beginning of this video, Jennifer Abel filed her summary judgments and 0.99

00:15:34.640 in this judgment, she's asking the judge to rule on something before this even goes to 0.50

00:15:39.460 trial because she says, you know, I'm not responsible for my actions.

00:15:43.880 I only did my job basically.

00:15:46.340 And Stephanie Jones, who also sued Jennifer Abel, who also sued her back, which is a separate 0.77

00:15:52.180 lawsuit thing going on here, she kept saying that Jennifer Abel was just like working on 1.00

00:15:57.160 her own.

00:15:57.960 But now Jennifer Abel has provided all this communication the team had with Stephanie Jones

00:16:05.260 showing that she was really involved in everything that went on behind the scenes.

00:16:11.240 She's claiming that she was in Europe and she didn't really know because she was on vacation,

00:16:17.100 but she's on all these email threads and she's been forwarding questions from the press to

00:16:24.500 Jennifer Abel and say, hey, this TMZ article just came out.

00:16:28.100 Do you want to respond to it?

00:16:29.840 So for her to say she didn't know what was going on here is basically just BS.

00:16:34.320 Yes, what's really great here as well is that all of this is coming out now before we've even

00:16:39.820 seen the communication with Van Zandt.

00:16:43.260 That company filed a sham lawsuit to get a subpoena out to get Jennifer Abel's phone.

00:16:50.240 And as I mentioned in this filing as well, why did not Stephanie Jones move to quash that 0.99

00:16:55.420 subpoena?

00:16:56.280 That should have been her responsibility as an employer. 0.97

00:16:59.580 It could have been a very easy thing to do to quash that subpoena so she would never would

00:17:03.180 have to give away Jennifer Abel's phone to Blake Lively's team.

00:17:07.680 She didn't do that, which of course makes it so obvious that she betrayed Jennifer Abel.

00:17:12.120 And we also know her personal motivation for doing that because she was really angry with

00:17:17.440 Jennifer Abel for leaving her company and for taking Baldoni and the Wayfair parties with

00:17:23.300 her as a client.

00:17:24.900 The thing is, in all these communications that we've seen so far, it's quite clear that

00:17:29.380 Wayfair parties did not want to work with Stephanie Jones anymore. 0.99

00:17:32.340 And one of the reasons for that is that they couldn't trust her because the Wayfair parties

00:17:37.040 believed that Stephanie Jones had gone behind their back and planted a story in Daily Mail.

00:17:43.960 And they had agreed to that point with Leslie Sloan to have a truce.

00:17:48.420 No negative stories about anyone hitting the press because they wanted to focus on the movie

00:17:55.100 doing well.

00:17:56.580 Stephanie Jones denied that she did such a thing and she said, you can see my phone

00:18:00.840 log, whatever, but Sony was the one reacting to it.

00:18:04.440 And Sony was the one actually accusing Stephanie Jones of doing that.

00:18:08.360 There's also evidence of that hit piece that was in the Daily Mail written by James Svitushka,

00:18:15.580 that reporter who got fired, who admitted that he had given a false declaration to the court

00:18:23.760 a few months ago.

00:18:24.920 There's so much going on here, you guys.

00:18:26.820 It's a hard to follow everything, but this reporter was fired because of that.

00:18:31.520 And here is the article that he wrote, which is basically a hit piece on Justin Baldoni and

00:18:38.040 his email to Wayfair parties or to their team, asking them for comments, explains all the things

00:18:45.060 that he had heard from a source.

00:18:47.240 Some of those things were that he was chauvinistic and borderline abusive on the set, that the

00:18:53.700 whole cast didn't like him, that he had a dismissive attitude toward Blake Lively's input about

00:19:00.640 the character, and that he's such a method actor that he couldn't turn off Ryle while he 0.99

00:19:06.400 was directing the film, which is so dumb. 0.89

00:19:10.680 You can't be a method actor and then direct a movie, so they're basically saying that he 0.96

00:19:17.020 directed the movie as Ryle.

00:19:18.920 Anyway, this became a big hit piece in Daily Mail, and here's the article that they post-published.

00:19:26.440 And here is the article that James Svitushka published.

00:19:30.300 Disturbing truth behind why Blake Lively and Hurried Ends With Us stars are feuding with

00:19:35.940 Justin Baldoni, and it says here, Justin Baldoni was chauvinistic and borderline abusive on

00:19:41.100 the set and sparked fury over his refusal to consider the perspective of co-star Blake Lively

00:19:47.060 while filming scenes that depicted abuse, insiders have claimed.

00:19:53.360 Now insiders have revealed the concerning truth about the tension, telling Daily Mail that Blake

00:19:59.120 and Justin clashed over his dismissive attitude to her input.

00:20:02.920 The insider claimed that Justin only focused on what he believed was the abusive male viewpoint

00:20:09.240 and had a very chauvinistic approach to the topic.

00:20:13.540 His behavior extended beyond the main players, the source continued.

00:20:17.240 Once he felt ganged up on, he became even less empathetic.

00:20:22.040 Now he's speaking praises, likely out of the fear that they'll call him out.

00:20:28.780 He knows it's coming and might try to blame his actions on being a method actor.

00:20:33.940 So that hit piece, to me, is all the evidence that I need to see that Blake Lively was launching

00:20:41.920 a smear campaign against Justin Baldoni.

00:20:44.980 I feel everything through this whole entire case, everything that she has accused him of,

00:20:51.900 she's been doing herself.

00:20:52.840 There's also more evidence here that Justin actually was worried that some of the comments

00:20:59.480 and some of the people defending him were bots.

00:21:02.800 So he reached out to the team saying,

00:21:05.000 Hi tag team, I've been seeing some Instagram comments on random posts defending me by people

00:21:10.520 who are private with no followers and they feel like bots.

00:21:14.200 Can you please confer we are not doing any of that?

00:21:17.040 I really don't want bots defending me as it feeds into their potential narrative.

00:21:22.840 I mean, all of this evidence that Blake Lively has put forward really proves the opposite

00:21:28.540 of what she's trying to prove.

00:21:30.540 And then there's also a long email from Stephanie Jones when she's trying to fix that story from

00:21:35.220 TMZ when they said someone on set had said that the kiss was lingering too long and that

00:21:43.080 Justin Baldoni had fat shamed Blake Lively.

00:21:46.080 Another hit piece on Justin.

00:21:48.240 So Stephanie is then giving them a strategy on how to deal with this, on how to flood everything

00:21:55.300 with positive articles.

00:21:57.860 And she's kind of begging Wayfair here to keep her on her team and defending herself and saying

00:22:03.540 that she never planted anything and she's innocent here and she can prove it because she's really

00:22:09.060 worried she's going to lose the account, which she did.

00:22:12.800 Anyway, that's it for me, you guys.

00:22:14.280 Thank you so much for watching.

00:22:15.580 That was a lot.

00:22:16.800 I know it is a lot.

00:22:18.720 And sometimes it can be quite overwhelming to get through everything.

00:22:22.120 I hope it wasn't confusing for you guys.

00:22:24.420 Let me know if you want some clarifications on anything.

00:22:27.620 I'll be happy to explain further if there's anything that's unclear.

00:22:32.220 And a lot of this stuff happened, you know, I spoke about in January or February this year.

00:22:37.520 So it's been a long time and a lot of things have happened so far.

00:22:41.220 So anyway, stay tuned for tomorrow, which is going to be a big day.

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - November 13, 2025

Blake is TOAST !!!

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