Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Blake's DESPERATE cry for help !!!

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00:00:14.400 I just found another text message.

00:00:16.960 Blake Lively also tried to drag Taylor Swift's fiancée into this. 1.00

00:00:22.500 This is crazy.

00:00:23.400 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.

00:00:30.360 I'm Kersti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:32.880 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:36.960 Guess what I found this morning?

00:00:39.080 I found another text message from Blake Lively to Taylor Swift.

00:00:44.140 I don't know how I missed this one.

00:00:45.980 This message is so manipulative and it shows how Blake was trying to get Travis Kelsey dragged into this as well.

00:00:55.940 And now new reports are showing that Travis was actually the one who warned Taylor about Blake.

00:01:03.600 And guess who else she has dragged into this now?

00:01:06.640 Anna Wintour from Vogue.

00:01:08.980 This message from the Vogue editor says it all.

00:01:13.420 Also, guess who's back?

00:01:16.500 Amber Heard is at Sundance Film Festival promoting her new documentary.

00:01:22.120 You won't believe what it is about.

00:01:25.120 I think that Ryan Reynolds should help her get distribution for this film because apparently no one wants it.

00:01:33.160 It's quite funny because last week Ryan Reynolds dragged Johnny Depp into this mess as well.

00:01:38.900 Anyways, let's get into this text message that I found this morning.

00:01:43.420 From Blake Lively to Taylor Swift.

00:01:46.180 This is about Taylor's song.

00:01:48.680 As you know, Taylor's song, My Tears Ricochet.

00:01:51.880 Ricochet.

00:01:52.660 I can't say that word.

00:01:53.860 Ricochet.

00:01:54.820 Anyways, that ended up in the trailer of It Ends With Us.

00:02:00.080 And Blake used this to pressure Sony.

00:02:02.720 We know that already because she was like, I'm the one who can get us that song.

00:02:06.900 And if you don't do this and that and all that stuff and all that manipulation she did behind the scenes, she said that Taylor wouldn't give her the song.

00:02:15.020 So anyways, here is a text message from Blake to Taylor.

00:02:19.820 Listen to this.

00:02:21.400 She's sending this to Taylor on April 23rd, 2024.

00:02:25.380 She's saying, I've finally gotten to get in the edit alone.

00:02:31.440 No, Justin.

00:02:33.000 So she's admitting here that she finally succeeded in kicking out the director of his own movie.

00:02:39.420 And she continues, I'm going to make this movie great.

00:02:43.780 Successful.

00:02:44.660 It's the last, if it's the last thing I do.

00:02:47.600 I think actually it is the last thing you will ever do, Blake.

00:02:50.280 But anyways, she continues, they sent me a trailer.

00:02:54.020 I'd love to know what you think.

00:02:55.720 Again, she's asking all her A-list friends, this time Taylor, what she thinks about her movie.

00:03:01.900 And she's saying like, oh, you know, I can be a director and edit this.

00:03:05.440 I'm much better than Justin.

00:03:07.100 But then she has to ask everyone around her all the time for advice.

00:03:12.240 And she's saying, I can change it.

00:03:14.620 I'm just curious your reaction as someone who knows pop culture better than anyone.

00:03:20.960 And also as someone who's read this book.

00:03:23.960 So Taylor actually read It Ends With Us.

00:03:26.600 Something that Jenny Slate admitted that she never did.

00:03:29.740 Interesting.

00:03:30.700 And she says, don't be thrown by your song.

00:03:33.860 They went out on a limb and kept it.

00:03:36.420 Which is cheating because it imbues everything with such gravity and quality.

00:03:41.280 So she's saying that because they're using Taylor's song.

00:03:45.160 They're kind of cheating here because the song lifts this trailer so much.

00:03:50.880 And she's saying, I'm torn.

00:03:52.960 Obviously, your feelings decided.

00:03:55.500 But if you were open to it on one hand, F them forever.

00:04:00.160 On the other, I want this movie to work.

00:04:03.120 And your song hits a main artery.

00:04:05.980 Song variable aside, we'd love to know what you think.

00:04:09.420 Please show Trav too.

00:04:12.300 Would love his opinion also.

00:04:15.440 So she's not only asking Taylor to watch this.

00:04:18.640 But she also wants Trav's opinion here.

00:04:22.300 This message is so manipulative.

00:04:26.140 First, she's flattering Taylor like she's doing with everyone that she's manipulating. 0.99

00:04:31.900 She's saying that, oh, you know pop culture better than anyone.

00:04:35.480 And then she kind of positions Taylor as uniquely responsible if this trailer succeeds or not.

00:04:44.080 Or if this film succeeds or not.

00:04:46.180 She puts so much pressure on her saying that this song is necessary.

00:04:51.140 And without it, it's nothing.

00:04:53.580 So the way I see this is that if Taylor says no, she's standing in the way of Blake's success.

00:04:59.860 And Blake is making sure that she knows that.

00:05:03.000 And the way she's begging her to show Travis as well.

00:05:06.840 I'm thinking at this point that Travis is starting to see through all of this.

00:05:10.480 I'll get back to that later in this episode.

00:05:12.360 Because now there are reports that he was actually the one who warned Taylor about Blake.

00:05:19.840 But I wanted to point something out here first.

00:05:21.660 Because there were a lot of rumors that Taylor Swift had said to Blake that she did not want to give her her song unless they fired the composer of the movie because she had an issue with this composer.

00:05:36.760 I remember that story was everywhere.

00:05:39.380 I don't know where that originated.

00:05:40.980 I haven't seen any papers or documents on that yet that Blake spread that rumor.

00:05:46.900 But I'm assuming it's coming from her because who else would have the interest of saying something like that.

00:05:52.920 So I don't know if she said to Sony, you know, if I don't get to choose the composer of this movie,

00:05:59.660 then Taylor won't allow us to use her song because she had an issue with this person. 0.96

00:06:04.940 So let's look at this article here.

00:06:06.900 So this was printed in Daily Mail in February of last year.

00:06:10.700 And it says,

00:06:12.120 And here it says,

00:06:22.860 But he was blindsided.

00:06:36.900 After the actress unceremoniously dropped and swiftly replaced him with Rob Simonson and Duncan Blickenstuff,

00:06:47.380 who had worked with her husband, Ryan Reynolds, on Deadpool just two months before the film was released.

00:06:55.440 So Blake fired Justin's composer and replaced him with Ryan Reynolds' buddies.

00:07:03.240 There are even quotes from these new composers here who were just caught off guard and saying that Blake contacted them and said,

00:07:09.860 You know, you have a week to make a score for this entire film.

00:07:13.140 And at this point, Brian, who was the original composer, had already, of course, finished the majority of the film, the music for the film.

00:07:21.100 And then he got a phone call from Jamie and Justin saying, I'm so sorry, but we have to fire you.

00:07:27.880 It's out of our control.

00:07:29.820 This is completely out of our power here.

00:07:32.400 And this guy was really worried that it would become public, that he was fired.

00:07:37.180 He'd never been fired before.

00:07:38.680 He was a very, he is a very successful composer.

00:07:41.760 And he shared his concern at the time that he did not want it to be known that he was fired.

00:07:46.340 He had never been fired in his life and wanted this to be super confidential, a source is telling Daily Mail here.

00:07:52.940 The source insisted that Taylor, Tyler never worked with or met Taylor Swift, despite rumors swirling that the singer told Lively she would only allow her to use her song if Tyler, this composer, was not involved.

00:08:11.120 And it says here that Harvard educated Tyler is among the top 10 highest grossing film composers of all time, having seen his films earn about $14.9 billion.

00:08:21.400 So he's not like some kind of guy that just Justin just like found somewhere on the corner.

00:08:28.020 And the composers that Ryan gave her said that I was in London finishing up Deadpool.

00:08:33.720 There was a week of recording left and I suddenly get a text from Blake and she sent a little video saying, I'm doing this thing.

00:08:40.360 I need a score.

00:08:41.340 Can you deliver it in a week?

00:08:42.820 And I said, I don't think a week, but maybe three.

00:08:45.140 And he says that I was able to finish up Deadpool, but I was going from the dub of Deadpool and going back to the studio at night working on Blake's film.

00:08:54.400 It was a little nutty.

00:08:55.840 He obviously wasn't told, you know, the reason for Blake hiring him, which was obviously a part of the bigger plan of the grand plan to take over everything in this movie.

00:09:06.940 But I think this also shows that Taylor Swift was a part of things, as you know, we talked about that before.

00:09:13.960 But Blake Lively was also manipulating her and tricking her and using her so that she would get the movie the way she wanted it.

00:09:24.340 And as I said, this message she sent to Taylor kind of emotionally blackmailing her saying, you know, it's OK if we can't use your song.

00:09:33.540 But I also think the success of this movie depends on your song.

00:09:37.000 So there you go.

00:09:38.340 Talking about other influence on this film.

00:09:41.000 This is quite funny.

00:09:41.960 I saw this on Reddit.

00:09:43.760 Someone pointed out that you know that it's hilarious.

00:09:46.740 Blake assembled the dream team.

00:09:49.140 Bradley Cooper, Sean Levy, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Taylor Swift, Ryan Reynolds, Maximum Effort and still her cuts scored lower than Justin's.

00:10:00.240 That is quite interesting, actually.

00:10:01.940 And here is another one.

00:10:04.240 I also found this this morning.

00:10:06.020 There's so many court documents that's been released.

00:10:09.540 So as I said before, I'm going through all of them slowly because I don't want to miss anything.

00:10:14.120 And then I found this.

00:10:15.420 This is a message from Anna Wintour to Blake Lively at the evening of the premiere evidence with us in New York.

00:10:24.640 I don't know if she attended the premiere or if she attended a pre-screening, but she did send this at 10 p.m. on the day of the premiere.

00:10:35.420 She's saying, Blake, that was a very brave and moving film.

00:10:39.980 So she also told Anna Wintour that she wrote, or Ryan wrote, that rooftop scene.

00:11:04.020 And I bet you she even showed it to her previously.

00:11:07.480 And it's so obvious that she had told Anna Wintour that she was a victim of a toxic work environment.

00:11:13.220 Otherwise, she would not have responded like this.

00:11:15.460 So also more proof that Blake Lively was running a very aggressive smear campaign against Justin Baldoni.

00:11:24.520 How much more proof do we need at this point?

00:11:27.220 Anyways, this is interesting.

00:11:28.880 As I said in the beginning of this episode, there's now been reports that Travis Kelsey was the one who warned Taylor about Blake.

00:11:36.800 And here is a story that page six just did.

00:11:41.140 They said how Travis Kelsey encouraged Taylor Swift to confront Blake Lively about their friendship shift report.

00:11:49.100 And it says here that Travis Kelsey allegedly helped Taylor Swift navigate her tense relationship with Blake Lively amid the Gossip Girl star's legal battle with Justin.

00:11:58.820 The Kansas City player reportedly encouraged Swift to smooth things over with Blake Lively before their bombshell text conversation unfolded in 2024.

00:12:09.500 They're talking about those text messages where Blake said, hi, something has shifted.

00:12:13.960 Something is a little weird here.

00:12:15.240 And Taylor said, yes, you are right.

00:12:17.340 It's all about you.

00:12:18.380 And I'm tired of it, basically.

00:12:20.660 Things that become uncomfortable between Taylor and Blake.

00:12:23.320 And although Taylor hadn't said anything herself, Travis noticed the way Blake was speaking to her and felt it wasn't right, a source claimed.

00:12:32.480 And Kelsey was allegedly very much in Swift's air about the tension between her and Lively.

00:12:39.180 He believed Blake's behavior toward Taylor felt off.

00:12:42.160 And she should take a closer look at the dynamic, saying it wasn't how a real friend should act.

00:12:50.100 The source alleged, also adding, when Blake later raised concerns that their friendship had changed, Taylor didn't hold back.

00:12:58.500 So it says here that Taylor was allegedly encouraged by her fiancé to address the situation head on and be honest about how she was feeling about their dynamic.

00:13:08.740 And it says here he didn't dislike Blake, but he didn't think it was fair on Taylor, who had been nothing but a present and loyal friend, the insider said.

00:13:18.380 I think this is planted by Taylor's team here.

00:13:21.660 And I think maybe the reason for that also is because now people have been attacking Travis Kelsey's Instagram, his personal Instagram, and trashing Taylor there and telling him to dump her because of all of this that's been going on.

00:13:38.720 And I think this is exactly what Taylor didn't want to happen.

00:13:42.440 And that's why she wanted to stay out of this.

00:13:44.740 And as I said the other day, this is also why Travis Kelsey decided to unfollow Ryan Reynolds, a very public move to make.

00:13:52.240 We also know that Taylor felt used by Blake.

00:13:56.140 We know from text messages between the two of them that Blake had called Taylor a dragon.

00:14:02.120 But when she used that word to put pressure on Justin, that's when Taylor said, you know, I don't like this.

00:14:10.020 You are using me and you are using me to pressure someone.

00:14:13.480 But she did decide to take a step back in the end.

00:14:17.940 And I think Travis had a say in that.

00:14:21.000 A source here is saying that she will forever be furious how Blake quite clearly was using her for clout and leverage in her dealings with Justin.

00:14:31.100 She really hates that Blake would even think like that, let alone write the things she did in that text the insider shared.

00:14:38.280 And they're saying here that the two haven't been in touch since those text exchanges went public.

00:14:45.500 That's when Justin Baldoni countersued.

00:14:47.700 Here is another interesting report from Rob Shooter saying that Taylor Swift changes phone number after Blake Lively text drama.

00:14:55.860 And it says here that sources reveal that Taylor Swift changed her phone number after a tense exchange with Blake Lively came to light.

00:15:04.920 An insider says it was all about privacy and control.

00:15:09.420 She was getting worried probably at this point that she would get subpoenaed and dragged into this because she was already dragged into it by Justin Baldoni's countersued.

00:15:18.220 And then she changed her phone number.

00:15:21.360 Taylor needed to set boundaries and protect her peace, a source tells me.

00:15:25.580 She's very private and doesn't want and doesn't take kindly to people overstepping. 1.00

00:15:31.560 This wasn't pity or dramatic.

00:15:33.460 It was about reclaiming control over her life.

00:15:36.080 She had to make sure her friends knew her new numbers so she could stay connected on her terms.

00:15:42.640 A music insider here explains that Taylor's circle is very tight.

00:15:46.860 She values her personal space and when things get messy, she shuts it down fast.

00:15:51.720 Changing her number was the cleanest way to do that. 0.97

00:15:54.780 Sources say the move also signals a larger lesson.

00:15:58.780 Even superstar friendships have boundaries.

00:16:01.320 Even superstar friendships, yeah.

00:16:03.680 And Taylor is not afraid to enforce them.

00:16:06.940 This was a full reset, says a friend.

00:16:09.040 She is in charge of who can reach her and when.

00:16:12.100 And that's how she keeps her sanity in Hollywood. 1.00

00:16:15.260 Good for her.

00:16:17.840 Anyways, on a complete other note, I saw this on Reddit and I wanted to share it with you guys

00:16:24.300 because I felt like, wow, I didn't even notice this.

00:16:27.540 But this is quite interesting because you know Blake Lively has been complaining of how green Justin was.

00:16:32.860 He didn't know what he was doing and, you know, he shouldn't be a director and blah, blah, blah.

00:16:37.780 And then someone pulled up Blake's IMDb and Justin's IMDb and compared the two of them.

00:16:45.480 And here we can see that on Blake's IMDb, it says she has 31 credits as an actress.

00:16:52.960 Justin has 32.

00:16:55.240 So pretty similar there.

00:16:56.700 On the producer credits, Blake Lively has three.

00:17:01.960 And we know it's really just two because she stole the last one.

00:17:05.860 Justin has 36.

00:17:08.500 Who's got the most experience here?

00:17:11.340 As a director, Justin has 14.

00:17:16.740 Blake has one.

00:17:19.100 And I think that's Taylor Swift's music video, if I'm not wrong.

00:17:23.060 She should obviously also get the director title for It Ends With Us. 0.99

00:17:27.440 If it was up to her, she would have gotten that too.

00:17:29.860 But she only has one credit as a director and he has 14.

00:17:34.500 And he's the green one here.

00:17:36.360 And again, as I said earlier in this episode, she got the whole A-list team to help her.

00:17:41.440 And still her version wasn't better than Justin's.

00:17:45.520 All right.

00:17:46.020 So as I said, Amber Heard is back.

00:17:48.200 She was spotted in at the Sundance Film Festival.

00:17:52.180 She has a new movie out.

00:17:53.400 As you know, she moved to Spain.

00:17:54.980 And in Spain, she started doing theater.

00:17:57.560 Obviously, because her career is over here in Hollywood. 1.00

00:18:00.620 But now she's back and she wants you to watch her new movie.

00:18:04.440 It's a documentary called Silence about accused men weaponizing defamation lawsuits to silence women speaking out.

00:18:14.020 Yes.

00:18:14.540 And it says here that the film follows numerous women, including a journalist, who were impended in their search for justice thanks to nine-figure defamation suits. 0.83

00:18:24.740 And there's some quotes from Amber Heard here that I wanted to share with you guys.

00:18:28.560 She's saying, this is not about me.

00:18:31.420 I have lost my ability to speak.

00:18:33.980 Well, you're just speaking, so obviously not.

00:18:37.300 I'm not here to tell my story.

00:18:39.740 I don't want to tell my story.

00:18:41.460 Well, we've heard Amber Heard's story over and over again through two lawsuits, actually.

00:18:46.580 So we know Amber Heard's story, and we made our own decisions about where we think the truth lays there.

00:18:53.260 I don't know if you have.

00:18:54.220 I have, obviously.

00:18:56.100 And she said, in fact, I don't want to use my voice anymore.

00:19:00.440 That's the problem.

00:19:02.240 Heard said bluntly sitting for a confessional chat with this reporter.

00:19:07.720 Yes.

00:19:08.060 So Amber said she doesn't have a voice anymore.

00:19:10.160 And the reason for that is because people don't want to listen to her because we know we saw her on that stand. 0.51

00:19:17.080 We saw her lying on that stand, and that's why we don't want to listen to her voice.

00:19:22.840 She can talk all she wants, as she just did here, but it's not going to make people agree with her.

00:19:29.820 And here at the end, it says that it really hurt her when she spoke out.

00:19:32.960 She says, I didn't understand it could get so much worse for me as a woman using my voice.

00:19:37.040 It's just because she's a woman again. 1.00

00:19:39.180 It has nothing to do with her lying on that stand.

00:19:42.980 It's only because she's a woman. 1.00

00:19:45.100 And it says here at the end, silenced is currently seeking distribution.

00:19:49.540 So no one wants this movie yet.

00:19:51.600 But maybe Ryan can pick it up and find and help her find a distributor.

00:19:56.920 Because now Blake and Amber have so much in common.

00:20:00.760 It's funny because, you know, Ryan Reynolds brought Johnny Depp into this in text exchanges he had with WME.

00:20:08.520 So the New York Post did a story on that, actually.

00:20:11.880 How fitting.

00:20:12.440 Ryan Reynolds drags Johnny Depp into Blake Lively.

00:20:15.780 Justin Baldoni drama in newly revealed text messages.

00:20:20.900 And then they're quoting the text messages back and forth.

00:20:24.560 And he's talking to Warren Zavala here, his agent over at WME.

00:20:29.040 He's the guy he tried to pressure to fire Justin Baldoni.

00:20:34.360 And we now know, actually, I'm going to talk about that in another episode, which I just realized when I when I was reading text messages between Blake Lively and Brandon Sklenar, her co-star, that Brandon already knew they were trying to get Justin fired back in August.

00:20:50.860 Very interesting. Stay tuned for that.

00:20:53.840 And here they're quoting the text messages between Ryan and his agent.

00:20:58.380 And at the end here, he's saying that he's linking a media coverage over it ends with us, saying that this is all spin, says Ryan's agent.

00:21:08.400 I think we let it burn.

00:21:10.520 And Ryan responds, how did that work out for Depp?

00:21:13.740 And his agent says, created both of them ultimately.

00:21:16.900 And then he's slamming Baldoni again, saying this egocentrical S weasel with a God complex talking about talking about Justin.

00:21:28.300 And Ryan adds that he is a human rounding error.

00:21:32.280 But what I find interesting here is if Ryan would have listened to his own words here and maybe not sued Justin, maybe Blake would have a chance to survive in Hollywood.

00:21:43.160 Now it's all over for her.

00:21:45.780 She is so done.

00:21:47.580 And that is because he did exactly what he was criticizing Johnny Depp for doing here and Amber Heard for taking this public.

00:21:54.980 See what happened to Johnny.

00:21:57.060 Well, yeah, see what happened to your wife and see what's happening to you right now, Ryan.

00:22:01.780 If you guys would have just kept quiet and just moved on and made millions of millions of dollars on your fake public image that people really bought into, you know, things would have been very different now.

00:22:16.020 And Justin Baldoni could have lived his life in peace with his family and made some more amazing movies for the rest of us to watch.

00:22:22.600 Anyways, that's it, guys.

00:22:24.060 And thank you again so much for all your engagement, your comments.

00:22:27.360 All of you are so supportive.

00:22:29.420 It's so beautiful to see this community of people coming together and rooting for the truth to come to the surface because we all feel like we've been lied to for so long.

00:22:41.180 So I really appreciate that you're all here.

00:22:43.860 Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart.

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - January 26, 2026

Blake's DESPERATE cry for help !!!

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