Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 05, 2026


BLAKE'S TEAM IN CRISIS !!!


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00:00:00.000 Yeah, Lively might have to file another lawsuit in California.
00:00:08.640 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Kersti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:13.720 of reason in a town built on delusion. This is my hardworking executive producer who's taking his
00:00:19.520 job really, really seriously. Anyways, is Blake Lively going to file a new lawsuit to get these
00:00:27.240 attorney's fees. It looks like that might be her only option at this point, because now she put
00:00:34.220 the judge in a position that he has to pretend that she already went to trial and won so she
00:00:40.920 could get all these attorney's fees and damages that she's asking for. And the judge is not happy
00:00:46.680 with that. Blake also wants to remind everyone that she was fat shamed. Her new Instagram post
00:00:53.580 says it all also big news Hugh and Ryan are back from their trip to Australia where they were
00:01:01.080 drinking from a shoe and now Ryan posted a photo of the two of them plus his other BFF Sean Levy
00:01:07.920 from the Yankee Stadium this time he actually left the comments open because he was collaborating
00:01:13.400 with Sean Levy on the post he wasn't collaborating with Hugh Jackman by the way interesting I wonder
00:01:19.900 why let's talk about it also the new york post is trashing blake lively in this new opinion
00:01:26.040 they're referring to victoria burke who i had on my channel yesterday she is the architect and
00:01:32.300 founder of this me too law which blake is now abusing for pr purposes i was really grateful
00:01:38.500 that victoria came on my channel yesterday and by the way i did have like a premiere of that video
00:01:43.240 something i've never done before so i was a little confused of what was happening when i saw the chat
00:01:48.520 and people were in the chat and someone was like oh is there a moderator here and I'm like whoa I
00:01:53.220 didn't know what was happening so I'm sorry about that next time I do a premiere I will know what to
00:01:58.260 do and I will also have a moderator so that there will be no inappropriate language in that chat
00:02:04.520 anyways I was so happy to see so many people tuned in to hear what Victoria had to say
00:02:08.800 because she did clear up a lot of things as you know at first she supported the judge decision
00:02:15.400 to dismiss Justin Baldoni's lawsuit and I was asking her why she changed her mind and she gave
00:02:21.460 me a really good answer for that. We have to remember that someone like Victoria, her mission
00:02:26.180 is to get this bill into as many states as possible to protect survivors and to protect victims.
00:02:33.540 This has obviously shown her that the bill, the way it exists now, is flawed because it can be
00:02:40.720 abused by powerful people like Blake Lively but her intentions were always good and I think it's
00:02:47.420 important to put that out there she wasn't educated enough on this case but I did ask her about Justin
00:02:52.580 Boldoni and she said she hadn't heard anyone say anything bad about him and I feel like now where
00:02:58.220 when she's experienced how Blake Lively takes authorship over everything including her law
00:03:04.940 she decided to come out and talk about it and I think that is super important and I'm so proud
00:03:10.260 of her for doing that. Anyways if you missed that you should go watch it but I just wanted to say
00:03:14.500 mention a few of the things that she said that really caught my attention. One of the things
00:03:18.200 being that she asked Blake Lively is she would be willing to record a short video of herself
00:03:23.740 to talk about this bill and to promote this Me Too bill and Blake Lively declined and her team
00:03:32.400 got back to Victoria saying that it wasn't a good fit for them. Then she had the meeting with Blake
00:03:39.140 and Ryan and Blake's mom and their four children present, by the way. About a year ago, this was
00:03:46.900 before Justin Baldoni's lawsuit was dismissed, and Victoria could tell us that everyone was
00:03:52.000 really, really nice to her. Surprise, surprise. I wouldn't expect anything else from that group
00:03:57.680 of people. But she also mentioned that Ryan Reynolds just had a sandwich and then he left
00:04:02.020 because he was flying out to LA. She also said that her friends or people had warned her about
00:04:07.460 Blake beforehand which I found interesting and now we got another confirmation of how Ezra Hudson
00:04:13.160 Blake's main attorney has been working behind the scenes to manipulate the law and to manipulate
00:04:20.180 all these women organizations and if you watch the interview you could see that Victoria didn't
00:04:25.080 have many nice things to say about Ezra Hudson they have now basically hijacked her law without
00:04:31.140 her permission. And they're taking it all over the US so that Blake Lively can dress herself
00:04:38.040 with this noble mission so that she can get her reputation back. As you know, the only reason
00:04:43.800 Blake is doing this is to get popular again. Oscar is making little sounds back here. He's
00:04:48.720 dreaming. It's so cute. Anyways, she also said that Ezra Hudson wanted to rewrite the bill
00:04:54.100 so that also attorneys could be protected by that law. Isn't that interesting? And as she said,
00:05:01.140 attorneys are always covered by their insurance companies but Ezra wasn't too sure so she wanted
00:05:06.920 to rewrite the law for survivors to protect herself so yeah not only did Blake steal the
00:05:13.320 movie it ends with us she also stole this bill from Victoria and now she has no idea what they're
00:05:20.080 up to what they're doing with this law they just took it for her from her and ran with it and I
00:05:25.240 asked her if she's worried that they're going to go after her because you know how they are they
00:05:29.700 went after me they went after all these journalists and content creators who spoke about this lawsuit
00:05:34.560 and i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to punish victoria somehow and victoria said that
00:05:40.720 she has all the receipts good for her it's so baffling to me to see how many women especially
00:05:47.240 that blake has hurt because she wanted to save her own reputation including now victoria burke
00:05:54.920 including the wives of Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heath,
00:05:59.360 including the publicist Jennifer Abel,
00:06:02.020 including Melissa Nathan, the crisis manager,
00:06:05.320 including the women who worked for Sony,
00:06:08.020 including Jenny Slate, including Isabella Ferrer.
00:06:11.700 The list goes on and on and on
00:06:14.240 on how many people and how many women Blake has harmed.
00:06:19.220 And now she's willing to throw this entire bill under the bus
00:06:23.260 so she can get popular again.
00:06:25.060 Another interesting point that someone mentioned on Reddit
00:06:27.520 after watching the interview,
00:06:29.340 it was quite funny how Blake had mentioned to Victoria
00:06:32.380 that her mom had experienced harassment or whatever at work,
00:06:37.600 this experience that she also talked about at the Time 100 event,
00:06:42.040 but Blake didn't share any of her own experiences
00:06:44.680 from the set of It Ends With Us
00:06:46.560 when she was treated so horrifically by Justin Baldoni.
00:06:50.060 I think that says everything.
00:06:51.480 Yeah, I can't believe what Blake's attorneys have gotten away with so far.
00:06:56.940 These people are just ruthless crooks.
00:06:59.940 Anyways, the New York Post is reporting today that
00:07:03.860 I think she's angered actual victims for a really, really long time.
00:07:15.960 I have received so many heartbreaking emails and DMs from people who have experienced real trauma in their lives, and they're furious with Blake Wiley.
00:07:24.760 But now we have a face, a public face as well, which is Victoria Burke.
00:07:31.340 And this is an opinion, by the way, and it's written by Kirsten Fleming.
00:07:35.220 And she's saying here, despite settling her contentious legal battle with Justin Baldoni just hours before she dramatically ascended the stairs at the Met Gala last month,
00:07:44.760 with an army of minions to fluff her 13-foot Versace train for the cameras,
00:07:51.400 the actress is still battling over damages.
00:07:55.100 Also at stake, she's mentioning here,
00:07:57.720 the victimhood status that she so desperately craves.
00:08:02.200 And she'll happily lift other people's hard work to get it.
00:08:06.740 Then she's quoting a lot of the things that Victoria Burke said to Megyn Kelly.
00:08:10.360 She was also on the Megyn Kelly show,
00:08:11.960 and especially quoting her when she said,
00:08:13.820 I don't want my bill to be turned into the Met Gala.
00:08:16.500 And she's saying here at the end of the article,
00:08:18.380 now that more facts are out in the open,
00:08:20.920 Lively's intentions look more and more craven.
00:08:23.800 The star is on a mission to secure her victimhood status by hook or crook,
00:08:29.500 even if she has to step on real victims in the process.
00:08:33.760 I mean, when you think it can't get any worse,
00:08:37.540 she does something that makes it even worse.
00:08:40.700 I mean, seriously, she needs help.
00:08:42.520 anyways talking about PR guess what Blake posted on her Instagram story I'm sure you all remember
00:08:51.200 this guy Don Saladino the personal trainer that Blake worked with for years Ryan Reynolds worked
00:08:57.860 with him for years and then Blake suggested for Justin Baldoni that he should also work with her
00:09:02.980 personal trainer and then at one point Justin asked Don Saladino how much he think or how much
00:09:09.040 She thought that Blake would weigh in about two weeks
00:09:12.920 when he was supposed to lift her in a scene
00:09:15.180 and Justin had a back issue.
00:09:17.700 He wanted to make sure that he could lift her
00:09:19.880 and he also wanted to make sure that she was safe in this lift
00:09:23.780 so he wouldn't drop her, that she wouldn't get hurt.
00:09:26.600 And what does Don Saladino do?
00:09:28.980 He calls Blake Lively and says,
00:09:31.940 Justin Baldoni, fat shame dude,
00:09:33.860 you should tell your husband Ryan Reynolds.
00:09:35.880 And she did.
00:09:37.140 And then they had a meeting where Ryan yelled at Justin for about five hours
00:09:42.660 on how he could fat shame his wife and how horrific this all was.
00:09:47.140 And this, mind you, was before they even started shooting the movie.
00:09:50.720 Anyways, now Blake is pouring love at Don and his wife in this Instagram post
00:09:57.400 and also reminding us that Don doesn't fat shame people.
00:10:02.160 It's only Justin Baldoni who does that.
00:10:04.080 She's saying that Don and his wife helped push me through so many moments
00:10:08.560 when I felt something was impossible.
00:10:10.840 Isn't it crazy how she blamed all her own body insecurities on Justin?
00:10:14.840 And it's so funny to me how she accused him of fat shaming her.
00:10:17.880 And at the same time, she accused him of saying that she was sexy.
00:10:22.080 It's like, make up your mind.
00:10:23.720 Either you feel that you're fat shamed or you feel that you're being S-aged.
00:10:27.880 But both of those don't really work together, if you ask me.
00:10:31.420 It's interesting how Don didn't repost this on his story.
00:10:34.780 He does not want more backlash.
00:10:36.940 Of course, when it was known that he was the source of that fact-shaming claim,
00:10:41.500 he got a lot of heat on his social media.
00:10:43.920 And now Blake reminded everyone again what a snake this guy is.
00:10:48.800 And as I've said before, he removed all photos of Blake and Ryan from his Instagram.
00:10:53.600 He used to pin their photos to sell more classes and to sell more of his products,
00:10:58.580 but they're all gone from his Instagram now.
00:11:00.720 so I'm not sure if he appreciates this or not but here is the most important thing that Blake says
00:11:05.000 in this post she says his magic is bringing out consistency and never allowing shame in he uplifts
00:11:12.860 you especially in times where you lock where you lack motivation and or self-esteem that is a direct
00:11:20.800 dig adjustable only why is she we're using the word shame here yeah so this guy's lifting her up
00:11:26.780 because she's paying him obviously also, by the way.
00:11:30.420 And I'm sure that People Magazine is going to pick this up
00:11:34.680 or I mean write about it when they receive the press release
00:11:38.900 from Leslie Sloan, Blake's publicist,
00:11:41.360 so that they can do a story on how Blake's trainer
00:11:44.200 is making her confident and never shames her.
00:11:47.660 Yeah, and I bet you they're going to use shame in the headline.
00:11:50.600 Just wait and see.
00:11:51.760 I mean, she has a platform of 40 million followers,
00:11:55.000 which I think is more like 4 million followers, to be honest.
00:11:58.800 There's so many bots on her account.
00:12:00.640 But then she's using it to promote this guy who started this very unnecessary feud, by the way.
00:12:07.380 Why would he go and tell on Justin Baldoni?
00:12:10.520 There's supposed to be confidentiality with the people that you're training.
00:12:14.860 But if you have a celebrity friend, you wouldn't care about that at all, obviously,
00:12:18.540 because you think it's going to give you advantages of being in their pocket.
00:12:22.800 And here's the proof because Blake just promoted him on her Instagram.
00:12:27.540 But it's crazy to me that she's using her platform like this
00:12:30.900 when she's in the middle of this storm of this Me Too law
00:12:34.960 and asking for these attorney's fees.
00:12:37.220 And her attorney, Sigrid McCowley, was outside the courtroom the other day
00:12:41.840 saying that there will be so much more advocacy from Blake in the future.
00:12:45.260 And she's posting about this trainer and about a shop.
00:12:48.920 I mean, it would cost her so little to show just a tiny bit of support to real survivors.
00:12:55.380 Okay, so Ryan is back from Australia after drinking out of a shoe with Hugh Jackman.
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00:14:42.580 Yankee Stadium yesterday with their other friend, Sean Levy. Sean is also the director of Deadpool
00:14:47.980 versus Wolverine. And you know, he also called Justin Baldoni at one point to tell him how to
00:14:53.680 handle Blake. I wish we would have had that conversation. I think it was actually recorded,
00:14:59.280 but it was never filed on the docket so yeah it's still out there but the interesting part here is
00:15:05.800 that Ryan Reynolds collaborated with Sean Levy on this post and Yankee Stadium and some brand or
00:15:13.020 whatever but not with Hugh Jackman I am guessing that Hugh was told by his publicist like okay
00:15:19.720 you've got to hang out with Ryan because you're doing this business thing together and he has all
00:15:24.780 this stuff that he knows about you that he's threatening you to leak. But don't get tagged
00:15:30.220 in anything. Don't end up in the same comment section as Ryan because that is not good for
00:15:35.880 your image, Hugh. And he's like, okay. Because also yesterday when they posted the same video
00:15:41.600 from this event where they were drinking beer out of a shoe, they didn't collaborate on it.
00:15:46.580 They just posted the same content, both of them. And I think there is a reason for that. And now
00:15:52.640 I feel that they have a moderator working full-time deleting half of the messages on
00:15:59.120 Ryan Reynolds' post because there are like 250 comments at this time and half of them are kind
00:16:04.400 of positive. So something's really off. Let me know what you think. Anyways, this article was
00:16:09.880 very interesting in Puck. Puck is a Hollywood newsletter and they're always doing excellent
00:16:14.780 reporting and they published this article today. It says the Blake Lively Baldoni suit could be
00:16:20.120 headed for a do-over while lively elected to settle with it ends with us director her search
00:16:26.780 for attorney's fees and damages has vexed the judge overseeing the case will the solution be
00:16:32.620 a new suit in a new venue interesting i never even thought about that so she could basically
00:16:39.400 sue him in california state or in new york state i'm guessing and i would not be surprised if she
00:16:45.940 does. Because if the judge does not allow her to get any attorney's fees, what is she going to do?
00:16:52.100 How is she still going to claim victory? Is she going to claim victory because she hijacked
00:16:56.960 this bill and that was the whole meaning behind all of this? Or is she going to push this even
00:17:04.340 further because she needs to have some sort of win? The journalist here is saying that on Monday
00:17:10.420 at the hearing between the dueling camps representing Blake and Justin, one could almost
00:17:15.200 sympathize with Judge Lyman, he's been asked to resolve Lively's unusual post-settlement damages
00:17:21.500 claim with little precedent to guide him. No clear procedural roadmap, and perhaps most importantly,
00:17:28.360 no jury. The damages, the punitive damages, and the treble damages that Blake is asking for,
00:17:35.560 those decisions are usually always up to a jury to decide. As he's pointing out here,
00:17:40.620 it was Blake's choice not to go to trial.
00:17:43.600 And it says here that yet the statute presents a series of questions
00:17:47.480 that were never fully litigated talking about this bill.
00:17:50.860 Did Lively make her complaints in good faith?
00:17:53.800 Was Boldoni's lawsuit frivolous?
00:17:56.560 Who bears the burden of proving those points?
00:17:59.740 That's what they were discussing in court the other day.
00:18:02.400 Who has to prove this?
00:18:04.480 And it says here that Lively's lawyers argue that Lyman effectively
00:18:07.940 resolved most of these issues when he dismissed Baldoni's claims, leaving only the calculation
00:18:13.160 of damages. Baldoni's team counters that the record is too thin to support that conclusion
00:18:18.400 because the case never reached trial. As you know, the judge didn't say that Justin Baldoni's
00:18:25.460 lawsuit against Blake was frivolous or he was out of malice. He didn't say any of those things.
00:18:31.300 he dismissed most of his lawsuit due to due to technicalities he they were allowed to actually
00:18:38.880 go and amend his lawsuit and bring back those claims again but they decided not to do that
00:18:44.720 because they wanted to have the chance to appeal it later on and you can't do that if you amend it
00:18:49.540 first and he's saying here Lyman appears to be leaning in Boldoni's direction yes he's reserving
00:18:56.120 his judgments, but on Monday's Doctrine Heavy Hearing, he would peaceably flag constitutional
00:19:02.180 wrinkles. Notably, Lyman raised what he viewed as a possible Seventh Amendment problem. Sure,
00:19:09.240 he spends considerable time acknowledging California's interest in protecting harassment
00:19:13.540 complaints, but if Lively is seeking monetary damages, where does the constitutional right to
00:19:19.500 jury trial go? So yes, it is unconstitutional that there's no jury involved in a decision like this.
00:19:26.120 He's saying here, perhaps the most revealing moment came when Lyman floated another path.
00:19:31.060 Several times, he suggested that Lively could pursue relief under California Civil Code Section 47.1
00:19:37.800 as a standalone cause of action.
00:19:41.400 In other words, if she wants damages, she might need to file a new lawsuit in California
00:19:47.340 and prove her entitlement there.
00:19:51.220 And the journalist here is saying, if I had to guess, that's where we may be headed.
00:19:56.120 The question is whether Lively has any appetite for a sequel, or maybe if Ryan does.
00:20:03.400 Can you imagine if she files another lawsuit just for these fees?
00:20:08.680 And he's adding here, because he was obviously present at court on Monday,
00:20:12.100 he says, the dynamic between the parties at Monday's hearing is worth noting.
00:20:16.920 Often you'll see cordiality win out in these disputes,
00:20:20.680 but these two sides couldn't be farther from each other, literally.
00:20:24.960 even in the hallway before the hearing began they kept their distance the Baldoni camp seemed much
00:20:32.200 happier like it was a high school reunion I walked over to the lively side and there was extreme
00:20:38.720 iciness meanwhile the youtubers were their own gang yucking it up in the middle interesting
00:20:45.320 observation there it was so icy on Blake lively side I bet her attorneys are freaking out right
00:20:52.000 now because they have promised her so much and they can't keep their promise and now they convinced
00:20:57.040 her that this is a victory for her and the public and the media doesn't agree with it and i'm sure
00:21:02.140 ryan reynolds is making some really angry phone calls to them anyways i was listening to little
00:21:07.560 girl attorney this morning i love her she's really amazing and explaining things and she said
00:21:13.220 something very interesting she said there is no way that the court can decide in favor of blake
00:21:17.960 without going through and decide whether or not her statements were made with or without malice
00:21:23.600 and there is no way to do that with no evidence and no jury to test it. Yes so what is the judge
00:21:31.520 going to do here? It seems like most people agree that he is not going to give her any attorney's
00:21:38.520 fees and he's definitely not going to give her any damages but if she gets nothing what happens
00:21:45.940 that little girl attorney believes that judge lyman is not going to grant blake anything so
00:21:51.820 yeah exciting times ahead anyways that's it for me today thank you guys so much for watching my
00:21:57.540 executive producer wanted to say something to everyone right oscar yeah he says if you haven't
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00:22:08.300 right oscar and then we'll see you soon
00:22:15.940 I'll see you next time.