Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 05, 2026


BLAKE'S TEAM IN CRISIS !!!


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Blake Lively might have to file a new lawsuit in California after the judge dismisses Justin Baldoni's lawsuit against her and her husband Ryan Reynolds. She also wants to remind everyone that she was fat shamed, and Ryan reveals that he wasn t in fact working with Sean Levy on the post.

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00:00:00.000 Yeah, Lively might have to file another lawsuit in California.
00:00:08.640 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Kersti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:13.720 of reason in a town built on delusion. This is my hardworking executive producer who's taking his
00:00:19.520 job really, really seriously. Anyways, is Blake Lively going to file a new lawsuit to get these
00:00:27.240 attorney's fees. It looks like that might be her only option at this point, because now she put
00:00:34.220 the judge in a position that he has to pretend that she already went to trial and won so she 0.99
00:00:40.920 could get all these attorney's fees and damages that she's asking for. And the judge is not happy
00:00:46.680 with that. Blake also wants to remind everyone that she was fat shamed. Her new Instagram post
00:00:53.580 says it all also big news Hugh and Ryan are back from their trip to Australia where they were
00:01:01.080 drinking from a shoe and now Ryan posted a photo of the two of them plus his other BFF Sean Levy
00:01:07.920 from the Yankee Stadium this time he actually left the comments open because he was collaborating
00:01:13.400 with Sean Levy on the post he wasn't collaborating with Hugh Jackman by the way interesting I wonder
00:01:19.900 why let's talk about it also the new york post is trashing blake lively in this new opinion
00:01:26.040 they're referring to victoria burke who i had on my channel yesterday she is the architect and
00:01:32.300 founder of this me too law which blake is now abusing for pr purposes i was really grateful
00:01:38.500 that victoria came on my channel yesterday and by the way i did have like a premiere of that video
00:01:43.240 something i've never done before so i was a little confused of what was happening when i saw the chat
00:01:48.520 and people were in the chat and someone was like oh is there a moderator here and I'm like whoa I
00:01:53.220 didn't know what was happening so I'm sorry about that next time I do a premiere I will know what to
00:01:58.260 do and I will also have a moderator so that there will be no inappropriate language in that chat
00:02:04.520 anyways I was so happy to see so many people tuned in to hear what Victoria had to say 0.90
00:02:08.800 because she did clear up a lot of things as you know at first she supported the judge decision
00:02:15.400 to dismiss Justin Baldoni's lawsuit and I was asking her why she changed her mind and she gave
00:02:21.460 me a really good answer for that. We have to remember that someone like Victoria, her mission
00:02:26.180 is to get this bill into as many states as possible to protect survivors and to protect victims.
00:02:33.540 This has obviously shown her that the bill, the way it exists now, is flawed because it can be
00:02:40.720 abused by powerful people like Blake Lively but her intentions were always good and I think it's
00:02:47.420 important to put that out there she wasn't educated enough on this case but I did ask her about Justin
00:02:52.580 Boldoni and she said she hadn't heard anyone say anything bad about him and I feel like now where
00:02:58.220 when she's experienced how Blake Lively takes authorship over everything including her law
00:03:04.940 she decided to come out and talk about it and I think that is super important and I'm so proud
00:03:10.260 of her for doing that. Anyways if you missed that you should go watch it but I just wanted to say
00:03:14.500 mention a few of the things that she said that really caught my attention. One of the things
00:03:18.200 being that she asked Blake Lively is she would be willing to record a short video of herself
00:03:23.740 to talk about this bill and to promote this Me Too bill and Blake Lively declined and her team
00:03:32.400 got back to Victoria saying that it wasn't a good fit for them. Then she had the meeting with Blake
00:03:39.140 and Ryan and Blake's mom and their four children present, by the way. About a year ago, this was
00:03:46.900 before Justin Baldoni's lawsuit was dismissed, and Victoria could tell us that everyone was
00:03:52.000 really, really nice to her. Surprise, surprise. I wouldn't expect anything else from that group
00:03:57.680 of people. But she also mentioned that Ryan Reynolds just had a sandwich and then he left
00:04:02.020 because he was flying out to LA. She also said that her friends or people had warned her about
00:04:07.460 Blake beforehand which I found interesting and now we got another confirmation of how Ezra Hudson
00:04:13.160 Blake's main attorney has been working behind the scenes to manipulate the law and to manipulate
00:04:20.180 all these women organizations and if you watch the interview you could see that Victoria didn't 0.99
00:04:25.080 have many nice things to say about Ezra Hudson they have now basically hijacked her law without 1.00
00:04:31.140 her permission. And they're taking it all over the US so that Blake Lively can dress herself 0.98
00:04:38.040 with this noble mission so that she can get her reputation back. As you know, the only reason
00:04:43.800 Blake is doing this is to get popular again. Oscar is making little sounds back here. He's
00:04:48.720 dreaming. It's so cute. Anyways, she also said that Ezra Hudson wanted to rewrite the bill
00:04:54.100 so that also attorneys could be protected by that law. Isn't that interesting? And as she said,
00:05:01.140 attorneys are always covered by their insurance companies but Ezra wasn't too sure so she wanted
00:05:06.920 to rewrite the law for survivors to protect herself so yeah not only did Blake steal the
00:05:13.320 movie it ends with us she also stole this bill from Victoria and now she has no idea what they're
00:05:20.080 up to what they're doing with this law they just took it for her from her and ran with it and I
00:05:25.240 asked her if she's worried that they're going to go after her because you know how they are they
00:05:29.700 went after me they went after all these journalists and content creators who spoke about this lawsuit
00:05:34.560 and i wouldn't be surprised if they tried to punish victoria somehow and victoria said that 1.00
00:05:40.720 she has all the receipts good for her it's so baffling to me to see how many women especially
00:05:47.240 that blake has hurt because she wanted to save her own reputation including now victoria burke 1.00
00:05:54.920 including the wives of Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heath,
00:05:59.360 including the publicist Jennifer Abel,
00:06:02.020 including Melissa Nathan, the crisis manager,
00:06:05.320 including the women who worked for Sony,
00:06:08.020 including Jenny Slate, including Isabella Ferrer.
00:06:11.700 The list goes on and on and on
00:06:14.240 on how many people and how many women Blake has harmed.
00:06:19.220 And now she's willing to throw this entire bill under the bus 1.00
00:06:23.260 so she can get popular again.
00:06:25.060 Another interesting point that someone mentioned on Reddit
00:06:27.520 after watching the interview,
00:06:29.340 it was quite funny how Blake had mentioned to Victoria
00:06:32.380 that her mom had experienced harassment or whatever at work,
00:06:37.600 this experience that she also talked about at the Time 100 event,
00:06:42.040 but Blake didn't share any of her own experiences
00:06:44.680 from the set of It Ends With Us
00:06:46.560 when she was treated so horrifically by Justin Baldoni.
00:06:50.060 I think that says everything.
00:06:51.480 Yeah, I can't believe what Blake's attorneys have gotten away with so far. 0.97
00:06:56.940 These people are just ruthless crooks.
00:06:59.940 Anyways, the New York Post is reporting today that 0.75
00:07:03.860 I think she's angered actual victims for a really, really long time.
00:07:15.960 I have received so many heartbreaking emails and DMs from people who have experienced real trauma in their lives, and they're furious with Blake Wiley.
00:07:24.760 But now we have a face, a public face as well, which is Victoria Burke.
00:07:31.340 And this is an opinion, by the way, and it's written by Kirsten Fleming.
00:07:35.220 And she's saying here, despite settling her contentious legal battle with Justin Baldoni just hours before she dramatically ascended the stairs at the Met Gala last month,
00:07:44.760 with an army of minions to fluff her 13-foot Versace train for the cameras,
00:07:51.400 the actress is still battling over damages. 0.63
00:07:55.100 Also at stake, she's mentioning here, 0.94
00:07:57.720 the victimhood status that she so desperately craves.
00:08:02.200 And she'll happily lift other people's hard work to get it.
00:08:06.740 Then she's quoting a lot of the things that Victoria Burke said to Megyn Kelly.
00:08:10.360 She was also on the Megyn Kelly show,
00:08:11.960 and especially quoting her when she said,
00:08:13.820 I don't want my bill to be turned into the Met Gala.
00:08:16.500 And she's saying here at the end of the article,
00:08:18.380 now that more facts are out in the open,
00:08:20.920 Lively's intentions look more and more craven. 0.97
00:08:23.800 The star is on a mission to secure her victimhood status by hook or crook,
00:08:29.500 even if she has to step on real victims in the process.
00:08:33.760 I mean, when you think it can't get any worse,
00:08:37.540 she does something that makes it even worse.
00:08:40.700 I mean, seriously, she needs help.
00:08:42.520 anyways talking about PR guess what Blake posted on her Instagram story I'm sure you all remember
00:08:51.200 this guy Don Saladino the personal trainer that Blake worked with for years Ryan Reynolds worked
00:08:57.860 with him for years and then Blake suggested for Justin Baldoni that he should also work with her
00:09:02.980 personal trainer and then at one point Justin asked Don Saladino how much he think or how much
00:09:09.040 She thought that Blake would weigh in about two weeks
00:09:12.920 when he was supposed to lift her in a scene
00:09:15.180 and Justin had a back issue.
00:09:17.700 He wanted to make sure that he could lift her
00:09:19.880 and he also wanted to make sure that she was safe in this lift
00:09:23.780 so he wouldn't drop her, that she wouldn't get hurt.
00:09:26.600 And what does Don Saladino do?
00:09:28.980 He calls Blake Lively and says,
00:09:31.940 Justin Baldoni, fat shame dude,
00:09:33.860 you should tell your husband Ryan Reynolds. 0.69
00:09:35.880 And she did.
00:09:37.140 And then they had a meeting where Ryan yelled at Justin for about five hours
00:09:42.660 on how he could fat shame his wife and how horrific this all was.
00:09:47.140 And this, mind you, was before they even started shooting the movie.
00:09:50.720 Anyways, now Blake is pouring love at Don and his wife in this Instagram post
00:09:57.400 and also reminding us that Don doesn't fat shame people.
00:10:02.160 It's only Justin Baldoni who does that.
00:10:04.080 She's saying that Don and his wife helped push me through so many moments
00:10:08.560 when I felt something was impossible.
00:10:10.840 Isn't it crazy how she blamed all her own body insecurities on Justin?
00:10:14.840 And it's so funny to me how she accused him of fat shaming her.
00:10:17.880 And at the same time, she accused him of saying that she was sexy.
00:10:22.080 It's like, make up your mind.
00:10:23.720 Either you feel that you're fat shamed or you feel that you're being S-aged. 1.00
00:10:27.880 But both of those don't really work together, if you ask me. 0.88
00:10:31.420 It's interesting how Don didn't repost this on his story.
00:10:34.780 He does not want more backlash.
00:10:36.940 Of course, when it was known that he was the source of that fact-shaming claim,
00:10:41.500 he got a lot of heat on his social media. 0.62
00:10:43.920 And now Blake reminded everyone again what a snake this guy is.
00:10:48.800 And as I've said before, he removed all photos of Blake and Ryan from his Instagram.
00:10:53.600 He used to pin their photos to sell more classes and to sell more of his products,
00:10:58.580 but they're all gone from his Instagram now.
00:11:00.720 so I'm not sure if he appreciates this or not but here is the most important thing that Blake says
00:11:05.000 in this post she says his magic is bringing out consistency and never allowing shame in he uplifts
00:11:12.860 you especially in times where you lock where you lack motivation and or self-esteem that is a direct
00:11:20.800 dig adjustable only why is she we're using the word shame here yeah so this guy's lifting her up
00:11:26.780 because she's paying him obviously also, by the way.
00:11:30.420 And I'm sure that People Magazine is going to pick this up
00:11:34.680 or I mean write about it when they receive the press release
00:11:38.900 from Leslie Sloan, Blake's publicist,
00:11:41.360 so that they can do a story on how Blake's trainer
00:11:44.200 is making her confident and never shames her.
00:11:47.660 Yeah, and I bet you they're going to use shame in the headline.
00:11:50.600 Just wait and see. 1.00
00:11:51.760 I mean, she has a platform of 40 million followers,
00:11:55.000 which I think is more like 4 million followers, to be honest.
00:11:58.800 There's so many bots on her account.
00:12:00.640 But then she's using it to promote this guy who started this very unnecessary feud, by the way.
00:12:07.380 Why would he go and tell on Justin Baldoni?
00:12:10.520 There's supposed to be confidentiality with the people that you're training.
00:12:14.860 But if you have a celebrity friend, you wouldn't care about that at all, obviously,
00:12:18.540 because you think it's going to give you advantages of being in their pocket.
00:12:22.800 And here's the proof because Blake just promoted him on her Instagram.
00:12:27.540 But it's crazy to me that she's using her platform like this
00:12:30.900 when she's in the middle of this storm of this Me Too law
00:12:34.960 and asking for these attorney's fees.
00:12:37.220 And her attorney, Sigrid McCowley, was outside the courtroom the other day
00:12:41.840 saying that there will be so much more advocacy from Blake in the future.
00:12:45.260 And she's posting about this trainer and about a shop.
00:12:48.920 I mean, it would cost her so little to show just a tiny bit of support to real survivors.
00:12:55.380 Okay, so Ryan is back from Australia after drinking out of a shoe with Hugh Jackman.
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00:14:42.580 Yankee Stadium yesterday with their other friend, Sean Levy. Sean is also the director of Deadpool
00:14:47.980 versus Wolverine. And you know, he also called Justin Baldoni at one point to tell him how to
00:14:53.680 handle Blake. I wish we would have had that conversation. I think it was actually recorded,
00:14:59.280 but it was never filed on the docket so yeah it's still out there but the interesting part here is
00:15:05.800 that Ryan Reynolds collaborated with Sean Levy on this post and Yankee Stadium and some brand or
00:15:13.020 whatever but not with Hugh Jackman I am guessing that Hugh was told by his publicist like okay
00:15:19.720 you've got to hang out with Ryan because you're doing this business thing together and he has all
00:15:24.780 this stuff that he knows about you that he's threatening you to leak. But don't get tagged
00:15:30.220 in anything. Don't end up in the same comment section as Ryan because that is not good for
00:15:35.880 your image, Hugh. And he's like, okay. Because also yesterday when they posted the same video
00:15:41.600 from this event where they were drinking beer out of a shoe, they didn't collaborate on it.
00:15:46.580 They just posted the same content, both of them. And I think there is a reason for that. And now
00:15:52.640 I feel that they have a moderator working full-time deleting half of the messages on
00:15:59.120 Ryan Reynolds' post because there are like 250 comments at this time and half of them are kind
00:16:04.400 of positive. So something's really off. Let me know what you think. Anyways, this article was
00:16:09.880 very interesting in Puck. Puck is a Hollywood newsletter and they're always doing excellent
00:16:14.780 reporting and they published this article today. It says the Blake Lively Baldoni suit could be
00:16:20.120 headed for a do-over while lively elected to settle with it ends with us director her search
00:16:26.780 for attorney's fees and damages has vexed the judge overseeing the case will the solution be 1.00
00:16:32.620 a new suit in a new venue interesting i never even thought about that so she could basically
00:16:39.400 sue him in california state or in new york state i'm guessing and i would not be surprised if she 0.87
00:16:45.940 does. Because if the judge does not allow her to get any attorney's fees, what is she going to do?
00:16:52.100 How is she still going to claim victory? Is she going to claim victory because she hijacked 0.71
00:16:56.960 this bill and that was the whole meaning behind all of this? Or is she going to push this even 0.99
00:17:04.340 further because she needs to have some sort of win? The journalist here is saying that on Monday
00:17:10.420 at the hearing between the dueling camps representing Blake and Justin, one could almost
00:17:15.200 sympathize with Judge Lyman, he's been asked to resolve Lively's unusual post-settlement damages
00:17:21.500 claim with little precedent to guide him. No clear procedural roadmap, and perhaps most importantly,
00:17:28.360 no jury. The damages, the punitive damages, and the treble damages that Blake is asking for,
00:17:35.560 those decisions are usually always up to a jury to decide. As he's pointing out here,
00:17:40.620 it was Blake's choice not to go to trial.
00:17:43.600 And it says here that yet the statute presents a series of questions
00:17:47.480 that were never fully litigated talking about this bill.
00:17:50.860 Did Lively make her complaints in good faith?
00:17:53.800 Was Boldoni's lawsuit frivolous?
00:17:56.560 Who bears the burden of proving those points?
00:17:59.740 That's what they were discussing in court the other day.
00:18:02.400 Who has to prove this?
00:18:04.480 And it says here that Lively's lawyers argue that Lyman effectively
00:18:07.940 resolved most of these issues when he dismissed Baldoni's claims, leaving only the calculation
00:18:13.160 of damages. Baldoni's team counters that the record is too thin to support that conclusion
00:18:18.400 because the case never reached trial. As you know, the judge didn't say that Justin Baldoni's
00:18:25.460 lawsuit against Blake was frivolous or he was out of malice. He didn't say any of those things.
00:18:31.300 he dismissed most of his lawsuit due to due to technicalities he they were allowed to actually
00:18:38.880 go and amend his lawsuit and bring back those claims again but they decided not to do that
00:18:44.720 because they wanted to have the chance to appeal it later on and you can't do that if you amend it
00:18:49.540 first and he's saying here Lyman appears to be leaning in Boldoni's direction yes he's reserving
00:18:56.120 his judgments, but on Monday's Doctrine Heavy Hearing, he would peaceably flag constitutional
00:19:02.180 wrinkles. Notably, Lyman raised what he viewed as a possible Seventh Amendment problem. Sure,
00:19:09.240 he spends considerable time acknowledging California's interest in protecting harassment
00:19:13.540 complaints, but if Lively is seeking monetary damages, where does the constitutional right to
00:19:19.500 jury trial go? So yes, it is unconstitutional that there's no jury involved in a decision like this.
00:19:26.120 He's saying here, perhaps the most revealing moment came when Lyman floated another path.
00:19:31.060 Several times, he suggested that Lively could pursue relief under California Civil Code Section 47.1
00:19:37.800 as a standalone cause of action. 0.99
00:19:41.400 In other words, if she wants damages, she might need to file a new lawsuit in California 1.00
00:19:47.340 and prove her entitlement there.
00:19:51.220 And the journalist here is saying, if I had to guess, that's where we may be headed.
00:19:56.120 The question is whether Lively has any appetite for a sequel, or maybe if Ryan does.
00:20:03.400 Can you imagine if she files another lawsuit just for these fees?
00:20:08.680 And he's adding here, because he was obviously present at court on Monday,
00:20:12.100 he says, the dynamic between the parties at Monday's hearing is worth noting.
00:20:16.920 Often you'll see cordiality win out in these disputes,
00:20:20.680 but these two sides couldn't be farther from each other, literally.
00:20:24.960 even in the hallway before the hearing began they kept their distance the Baldoni camp seemed much
00:20:32.200 happier like it was a high school reunion I walked over to the lively side and there was extreme
00:20:38.720 iciness meanwhile the youtubers were their own gang yucking it up in the middle interesting
00:20:45.320 observation there it was so icy on Blake lively side I bet her attorneys are freaking out right
00:20:52.000 now because they have promised her so much and they can't keep their promise and now they convinced
00:20:57.040 her that this is a victory for her and the public and the media doesn't agree with it and i'm sure
00:21:02.140 ryan reynolds is making some really angry phone calls to them anyways i was listening to little
00:21:07.560 girl attorney this morning i love her she's really amazing and explaining things and she said
00:21:13.220 something very interesting she said there is no way that the court can decide in favor of blake
00:21:17.960 without going through and decide whether or not her statements were made with or without malice
00:21:23.600 and there is no way to do that with no evidence and no jury to test it. Yes so what is the judge
00:21:31.520 going to do here? It seems like most people agree that he is not going to give her any attorney's
00:21:38.520 fees and he's definitely not going to give her any damages but if she gets nothing what happens
00:21:45.940 that little girl attorney believes that judge lyman is not going to grant blake anything so
00:21:51.820 yeah exciting times ahead anyways that's it for me today thank you guys so much for watching my
00:21:57.540 executive producer wanted to say something to everyone right oscar yeah he says if you haven't
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00:22:08.300 right oscar and then we'll see you soon
00:22:15.940 I'll see you next time.