Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 01, 2025


Ep 10: Justin Baldoni joins Blake Lively Deposition


Episode Stats

Length

33 minutes

Words per Minute

184.3319

Word Count

6,142

Sentence Count

421

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Blake Lively was deposed yesterday and guess who showed up? Justin Baldoni. Can you imagine the look on her face when she saw him? Also, there is some new information about what will be happening at this deposition.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 They told me right away. I didn't even ask. They said, hey, the reason that we subpoenaed you,
00:00:05.920 are you ready for this?
00:00:11.760 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, the podcast. I'm Tash DeFlo, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:18.180 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Each week I unpack the madness,
00:00:23.560 the hypocrisy, and everything that infuriates me and inspires me about celebrity culture.
00:00:30.000 Especially everything going on in Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni legal feud. I did kind of
00:00:36.160 promise that in this podcast I would talk about other things and I will sometimes, but there's so
00:00:43.480 much going on right now and I feel like a lot of you guys that are following me on YouTube are just
00:00:48.180 waiting to get more updates on this. So I will give you that. I will say that on Monday I will be going
00:00:55.280 to Norway to spend some time with my family and get a little bit of a break because I do need to
00:01:00.360 turn off a little bit now. It's been a lot. So I won't be posting that much while I'm there. It's
00:01:07.140 probably going to be for about a week or so. But if anything big happens, I will jump on and give you
00:01:12.200 a little bit of an update. So stay tuned. Anyways, yesterday I spoke to one of the creators who was
00:01:18.300 subpoenaed on X, the lawyer. I don't know if you saw that interview. It was like a week ago or so
00:01:24.180 and now she has an update because she's spoken to Blake Lively's legal team and they told her
00:01:29.660 why they were subpoenaing her. And it's insane, you guys. So stay tuned for that interview at the
00:01:36.600 end of this video. Also, there is some big news, you guys, because yesterday Blake Lively was deposed
00:01:43.300 by Brian Friedman. I didn't think that was going to happen, but now I think that probably was a typo
00:01:49.700 in Daily Mail because they reported, and I think people also reported, that the deposition of Blake
00:01:56.200 Lively was postponed again. I didn't see that information anywhere else, but I thought, you know,
00:02:01.820 they said it, so it's probably true. Well, it wasn't true. Anyways, so yes, Blake Lively was deposed
00:02:09.860 yesterday. And guess who showed up? Justin Baldoni. Can you imagine the face of Blake when she saw
00:02:18.640 Justin Baldoni there? It is pretty normal for someone who's being sued like that to actually
00:02:24.600 show up at a deposition. So it's not like a big surprise that all the outlets wanted it to be.
00:02:30.860 But oh my God, could I give anything to be a fly on the wall during that deposition?
00:02:36.540 I think for Justin Baldoni, just to sit there and have her watch him while she's lying her teeth off
00:02:43.660 is a little satisfactory. I would think so. I know he's a very good person who doesn't want
00:02:49.740 any harm upon anyone, but I feel like any person would enjoy that moment a little bit. And I'm sure
00:02:57.320 it's also frustrating. And I'm 100% sure that she was crying and crying and crying during her
00:03:04.560 deposition. Because that's what these kind of people, these kind of narcissists usually do. And
00:03:10.200 you have to remember, it's much harder to keep your story straight when it's not true. I just know
00:03:15.920 that she's going to sit there and cry for hours, because she feels so guilty now. And there's no way
00:03:21.320 out. And that's the real reason why she's crying in this deposition. Anyways, Fox News did a story
00:03:27.340 where they were interviewing an attorney about this, what he thinks is going to happen on the,
00:03:31.220 at this deposition. And he said that they will likely do a deep dive into the videos of her joking
00:03:37.920 and flirting with Baldoni and get her to admit that she was doing so instead of perfectly feeling
00:03:43.480 uncomfortable as her representation has claimed. Yeah, I'm sure he was showing that video and how
00:03:48.860 she had to go through every second of it. And when she exactly felt like he was, you know, pushing her
00:03:55.220 too far with that kiss who lingered to it, which lingered too long, or when he bit her lip, or was
00:04:01.520 it her actually biting his lip. She's got a lot of explaining to do.
00:04:06.520 I feel so nosy. I know.
00:04:08.220 And my nose is so big.
00:04:11.420 Yes, I was hoping that we could address this. It's not too late. Just got to shut down. We've got to call
00:04:18.020 an insurance month and just deal with that.
00:04:19.980 Yeah, this employment and defamation attorney that they interviewed, his name is Cameron Dabalakshayi,
00:04:28.160 and he continues to say that each of their interactions will be analyzed and questioned,
00:04:33.180 and any misstatement by Lively can and will be used against her. I expect there to be multiple
00:04:39.480 deposition sessions as well, and for the Baldoni team to move for additional sessions.
00:04:44.100 So this will likely be the first of potentially a few depositions.
00:04:48.000 So yes, more coming soon for Blake Lively. I'm sure they were there for like seven or eight hours
00:04:54.420 yesterday, but she better buckle up for Brian Friedman. I don't know if any of this is going
00:04:59.960 to leak. It could happen, but I'm sure Brian Friedman is being a bit careful. So if it doesn't
00:05:05.180 come from him, maybe someone else would leak it. Who knows? I kind of hope that we will get a little
00:05:10.500 peek into what happened. But of course, don't break the rules. Yesterday, I did have an interesting
00:05:15.780 conversation with someone. We were talking about this whole scenario of why Ryan and Blake are doing
00:05:21.460 so many stupid things. She told me that sometimes lawyers are told by their clients, especially if
00:05:28.160 they have big egos like these guys, to do things that the lawyers don't agree with. And she said that
00:05:34.680 they probably didn't think it was a great idea to subpoena the content creators, but Blake and Ryan
00:05:40.620 might have pushed them to do so. And that's why there wasn't such a clear plan of what to do when
00:05:46.380 everyone filed motions to quash, that they would just withdraw everything. And I feel like it makes
00:05:52.540 sense that Ryan Reynolds will come up with something like that, just to kind of punish people, steal their
00:05:58.380 time and their money to do and to fight this and then have absolutely no plan behind it just to say
00:06:05.140 like, F you, I'm Ryan Reynolds, and I can do whatever I want. Because otherwise, why would the lawyers do
00:06:10.180 something like that? Anyways, in the meantime, when this was going on, Ryan Reynolds had a story planted
00:06:16.540 in USA Today, where they go through his career. I mean, how random is this article? The same day as
00:06:24.980 Blake Lively is being deposed, and all these motions to quash are hitting the docket. Ryan Reynolds,
00:06:31.820 there's a story in USA Today of Ryan Reynolds' career from Green Lantern to Deadpool. Like, what's the news
00:06:41.180 in this story exactly? Also, thank you, Bruce, for sending me this. He was commenting on this article
00:06:49.740 in People magazine, and it says Justin Baldoni's lawyer previously called the actor a person who wants to be
00:06:55.620 vindicated, and that's all that he cares about. Of course he wants to be vindicated. But then Bruce tried
00:07:01.700 to comment on in the comment section here, and his comments were always deactivated by people. And he
00:07:08.860 sent me some screenshots when someone was saying that Justin Baldoni is manipulative psychopath,
00:07:14.420 whatever. And then Bruce said that you must be new here. Blake lied. And People magazine retracted
00:07:21.840 his comments. And they did that with several other comments as well. And none of his comments were
00:07:28.660 offensive. So there's obviously someone sitting at people just removing all comments that are not
00:07:35.120 pro-Blake Lively. It's so ridiculous, but it's so obvious as well. As you've seen, they made, I don't
00:07:40.640 know how many articles they made just to promote Blake Lively's products, even selling them. One of them
00:07:46.500 they actually removed after I called them out saying that they should be marked as an advertisement.
00:07:51.380 And then all of a sudden, the article was gone. I don't know if it was because I mentioned it, but
00:07:56.640 they did actually remove the article. And the fight from the content creators continues. Perez Hilton
00:08:02.640 and Andy Signor filed their motions to quash. Perez Hilton did it in Las Vegas, and Andy Signor did it in
00:08:10.640 Florida, meaning that there are other judges that are actually going to look at their motions to quash.
00:08:17.060 That also means that Blake Lively needs to fight them in their state courts, which is amazing. And
00:08:25.040 local judges might be more sympathetic towards them, and they might not know much about this case.
00:08:30.540 And they might not think that a powerful celebrity should have access to all the personal emails and
00:08:36.440 everything else of private information from Perez Hilton and Andy Signor. You have to remember,
00:08:42.180 they received even broader subpoenas than the rest of us. We only got subpoenaed for our social media
00:08:48.720 accounts. They got subpoenaed for emails, phone calls, text messages, everything. There are also much
00:08:53.980 stricter anti-slap laws in Nevada and in Florida, so that also might help them. And this means more
00:09:01.240 lawyers for Blake Lively, more filings and more risk, and possibly more scrutiny in the media.
00:09:07.480 Also, we now know that there are 107 content creators that have been subpoenaed by Blake
00:09:16.020 Lively's lawyers. What has happened to the rest of them? Where are they? But before we get into that,
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00:10:30.680 of Surfshark VPN. Link in my description. Anyways, let's get back to all these content creators
00:10:36.220 because I don't even know who they are. That information hasn't been made public yet. It was
00:10:42.180 just from a hearing between Justin Baldoni's attorneys and the judge that someone picked it up
00:10:48.280 that they were talking about 107 content creators. I did see Pop Diaries, which is another channel,
00:10:56.500 a faceless channel, an anonymous channel, posted this on Instagram.
00:11:01.240 We were subpoenaed by Blake Lively. This is the scariest thing to ever happen to us on the
00:11:05.540 internet. Me and my best friend run the TikTok account, Pop Diaries. We make videos about pop
00:11:10.480 culture just like thousands of other people, but a couple weeks ago, we found out through social
00:11:15.180 media, not the courts, that Blake Lively subpoenaed TikTok should get our private information.
00:11:21.300 That includes our names, IP addresses, SIM card data, contacts, bank information,
00:11:26.480 even our payment methods, all because we criticized how she promoted It Ends With Us.
00:11:31.760 Yeah, let's not forget the devastation so many people have felt when they received these subpoenas.
00:11:36.340 Good news is that the judge actually did agree for them to continue to file a motion to cross
00:11:42.220 as Jane Doe and Jane Doe. So they're still anonymous. And of course, Blake Lively's team is going to
00:11:49.200 withdraw the subpoena before even the judge concede because that's what they do every time now.
00:11:54.360 More people just wasted time and got stressed. And as she said in this video,
00:11:59.240 she even got into a car crash because she was so stressed out about this.
00:12:03.320 Anyways, as I said in the beginning of this episode, I did speak to the anonymous ex-user
00:12:08.520 that has been subpoenaed or was subpoenaed by Blake Lively's lawyers. And she's an attorney herself.
00:12:15.880 She's an immigration lawyer. So for her, it was even a bigger shock when this happened.
00:12:21.440 And I spoke to her a couple of weeks ago when it just had happened. And now she's going to share
00:12:27.280 with you what actually happened and the absurd excuse they made for picking her specifically
00:12:33.960 for this subpoena on ex. You won't believe this.
00:12:37.900 I actually did have them meet and confer with them.
00:12:40.480 You did.
00:12:41.080 I will tell you how that went.
00:12:43.240 Oh, yes.
00:12:44.800 And I'm here because I know that there's a lot of people that have been subpoenaed and
00:12:49.780 they don't know exactly how to navigate this. And I'm not giving legal advice, but at least
00:12:54.240 I can prepare them somewhat of what to expect and general advice that I think might be helpful
00:12:59.460 to you. Like it was hard because I'm like, they were also attorneys, you know, and I'm going
00:13:04.400 after other attorneys. And then I'm like, oh, OK, you know, and I'm like, then I was worried
00:13:09.260 about Lyman. And I was like, you know, even if I file this motion, given how he's been
00:13:13.920 ruling, no matter how good the argument is going to be, what if he still rules in favor
00:13:19.320 of Blake Lively?
00:13:20.960 So I'm like, OK.
00:13:21.760 You felt like that could actually affect your career as an attorney?
00:13:26.300 It didn't make me feel like it would affect my opinion as an attorney.
00:13:32.060 No, I mean, like your career that you dragged into something like this and subpoenas.
00:13:36.300 Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Because that's one of the reasons I wanted to be anonymous.
00:13:40.600 Right. Like because I'm I'm a lawyer. I don't want my opinions to be affiliated with any
00:13:45.740 nonprofit or law firm. And and I'm a very honest person. I say what I mean and I mean
00:13:51.040 what I say. You know what I mean? And I'm very unapologetic about it. And nowadays people
00:13:56.260 are very politically correct and they want to be you know, it's it's very you could lose
00:14:01.040 your job for because of social media now. Like that's the reality that we're in, you know.
00:14:05.760 So I was like, you know, I just want to be able to speak freely, say what I need to say
00:14:10.940 without having to be worried about me being affiliated by anybody else. So that's why I
00:14:16.500 wanted that anonymous account to be able to just express myself freely.
00:14:20.800 Did they understand that you were a lawyer from the get go? Do you think that they actually
00:14:25.720 knew that before they subpoenaed you or were they a little surprised by you saying that to
00:14:30.220 them? I think they knew. I can I be very honest with you? Do not underestimate law firms,
00:14:35.960 guys. Like I've like, yes, I have done national litigation. I've worked very for a small period
00:14:41.960 of time. It's not my main area of practice, but I've worked in those type of atmospheres
00:14:46.420 where there is giant litigation firms. They are well equipped machines because I remember
00:14:52.920 when I worked for a civil litigation case, they had me assigned. You understand what I'm saying?
00:14:58.540 They had me assigned to particular people and I would monitor their social media. You know,
00:15:03.300 they hire private investigators when it's like lots and lots of million dollar money. Like when
00:15:08.880 when a high stake conflicts case is involved, money matters, unfortunately. And people are willing to
00:15:15.740 spend a lot of money to save their reputation, you know. So they're willing to do a lot, pay more
00:15:21.360 money behind the scenes than they are willing to pay the other party that they harmed. Right. So I
00:15:27.540 I, I, I'm very, I do think they knew or at the very least, I will say this. Maybe they didn't know
00:15:34.300 I, the spiritual shift was, but once I emailed them, there's no way they didn't look up my name.
00:15:40.100 They know my address now. They looked me up. They, they know everything. And I do think one of the
00:15:45.080 things they wanted from us, remember it was our names, our addresses and all of that stuff. Right.
00:15:51.660 I, I wrote that email. They responded that, okay, let's do a meet and confirm. So that was a bit
00:15:58.140 misleading because in my mind, I was thinking, okay, I told you that this is the only thing that
00:16:03.920 I'm willing to do a written stipulation, right. To withdraw. Right. Or I'm going to file the motion.
00:16:09.560 But when I got to the meeting and mind you, when I did have the zoom meeting, it was, and like I said,
00:16:16.740 what I do want to just say is that I like, I don't know how to explain this, but initially I felt like
00:16:27.300 there was this respect in the rapport. They were being respectful, but at the same time,
00:16:34.160 you have to be careful because there are technically ways during a zoom call, people can find your IP
00:16:40.880 address and whatnot. And this is if you're, if they're really playing dirty, like, you know what I mean?
00:16:45.640 Which I hope they are not in that level and that wouldn't be ethical for them to do. But when I was
00:16:51.640 in that meeting, first thing I noticed was there were two people, you know, and they had immediately
00:16:56.900 said not to record and not have anybody else present. So by default, they're outnumbering me.
00:17:03.900 Right. So for example, if I said, well, she said this, they're going to say, well, two of us said this,
00:17:10.080 you get what I'm saying? So there were tricks being played. I'm not going to say that. And that's just,
00:17:14.640 look, they're not representing us. That's one thing people have to know. Do not expect opposing
00:17:20.640 attorneys to ever do you any favors. You have to advocate for yourself. You have to. And to be
00:17:27.820 honest, I really didn't have anything to hide. You know what I mean? So I was like, you know,
00:17:31.380 I knew what was kind of happening and they didn't want me to have any other people, but I was there.
00:17:36.160 So then I, that itself kind of got me like a little bit like, okay, I see what's happening
00:17:41.720 here. And then, um, what I thought was going to be a, let's negotiate the stipulations of the,
00:17:49.660 of the withdrawal became, well, we would like to ask you some voluntary questions, you know,
00:17:56.240 and, um, this is getting juicy. But let me ask you, did your attorney do a meeting confer with them?
00:18:05.160 Yeah. They did. Uh, I don't know what they used. I just heard that they had a meeting with them
00:18:12.580 and, uh, nothing came from it really. They were just saying, cause he wanted to know exactly what
00:18:19.460 they wanted, what they were after. And then they said that they wanted to prove that I was paid by
00:18:25.980 Wayfair parties. Interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. So I'll tell you what they told me. They actually
00:18:33.140 told me, which everybody else said that they never responded to them. A lot of the content creators
00:18:38.100 said they asked like, why did you subpoena us? And they actually did tell me. So let me tell you
00:18:43.780 what I, yeah, let's share. So then what happened in the meeting was, so they were cordial. Like I said,
00:18:50.400 they were nice. So that was that kind of moment where I'm just like, okay, this is an attorney
00:18:54.260 talking to attorney. And there was a human moment there, you know, for good or bad. And, um,
00:18:59.200 but then they were being attorneys and they're always going to be Blake's attorneys. And they're
00:19:03.280 like, Oh, we have some voluntary questions. And one of them, they, they basically said that they're,
00:19:09.480 they told me right away. I didn't even ask. They said, Hey, the reason that we subpoenaed you,
00:19:15.160 are you ready for this? Andy Signor.
00:19:17.760 Really? That's why they said they subpoenaed me. And then I was so, and I'm like, huh? Like I was
00:19:26.520 so confused. I was like, so confused. But then it hit, he's listed as one of the names in the tag
00:19:33.060 contact list. Yeah. But so why would they subpoena you because of him? Well, that's,
00:19:38.680 and that's when they wouldn't tell. Right. So then I, have you been on a show before?
00:19:42.700 No, I have not. I have not been to Andy's show. I don't even think Andy shouted me out ever. I
00:19:49.540 don't even think he even mentioned me in his show ever once. No, no joke. I'm not lying. So that was
00:19:54.300 so bizarre and weird. Did you ever tweet anything or X any, do you say still tweet? I don't, I'm not
00:20:00.900 on X. Did you X anything about Popcorn Planet? Don't come to X. It's a dangerous world. I know. I
00:20:09.060 know. I feel like you go down that rabbit hole and it's just like, Oh, very dark. But, um, did you
00:20:14.580 ever tweet anything that he said or something like that? Or? I mean, I literally cannot. I, I mean,
00:20:22.040 obviously they withdrew the subpoena because they knew that there was no connection. Cause I asked
00:20:25.800 them, I said, what are you? I'm like, okay. I'm like, if Andy is your target, how are you connecting
00:20:33.400 him to me? What's the relevancy of this? How are you connecting me? They didn't have an
00:20:38.320 answer. They didn't have an answer. So, um, then I'm all, and then I'm just like, okay,
00:20:45.480 so what are you going to do now? Are you going to subpoena all his million subscribers? Now
00:20:49.720 everybody who's liked him, who commented, are you subscribed to his channel? I, I think I
00:20:56.540 am where I was, or I don't know. Like, I don't even know. Like, so that would be, oh my gosh.
00:21:01.740 Wow. Yeah. And no, Andy does an amazing job. Don't like, he's a great, I think everybody should
00:21:07.880 be following him. His content is also amazing, but no, like I, I never was on his show. I don't
00:21:14.280 know what they're talking about. And I'm, I'm curious myself, like what, cause they obviously,
00:21:19.820 maybe not obviously, that's why it's, that's why they withdrew the subpoena. Cause if they actually
00:21:24.480 had something, I think they would have moved forward. Right. Well, they haven't moved forward with
00:21:28.620 anyone. And that's what I find so suspicious here. And that's why I almost like regret what I did
00:21:35.960 because I'm like, should I have done more? I don't regret it. Cause there's no, there's no regret
00:21:41.080 because technically we could still do something now, even now. And I never promised to them that
00:21:45.900 I'm never going to take any action. I just said, as of now, I won't be filing anything. I gave them
00:21:51.880 the same reasoning that they said. So anyways, the second question they asked me was, so it was kind of
00:21:57.280 like the hypothesis that I had when I was on your show the last time. I don't know if you remember,
00:22:01.680 remember I was joking. I was like, maybe they think I'm your bot, right? Or I'm your paid show.
00:22:06.280 Like, remember I was thinking like saying, joking that maybe they think we are, I'm working for the
00:22:10.620 bigger creators. But then guess what the second question was? The second question was, has anybody
00:22:18.300 been providing you sources, news about Blake Lively on like anonymous accounts or privately have,
00:22:24.600 are they feeding you information about Blake Lively? And that's when I shut it down. Cause I'm like,
00:22:29.760 you know what I mean? Like, okay, they're now just digging. They're just, it's like a fishing
00:22:33.220 expedition at this point. That's, I, sorry, I forgot to say that. That's also what they asked my
00:22:38.200 attorney. Anonymous sources. That's what they think is happening. So they think Wayfair parties are
00:22:46.540 creating these, I think, paid shows or maybe these like, you know, accounts that are just like feeding
00:22:52.260 us this information. So my response was... We're not talking national security here. It feels like
00:22:57.540 we're talking about like this, like big, but it's like, oh no, it's because Blake Lively is not popular.
00:23:03.760 We have to remember that. Okay. I'm so sorry. I interrupted you, but I just find it when we talk
00:23:07.820 about it, it sounds like we're talking about like the government here, but no. Can you interrupt me
00:23:12.520 more often? I love it when you talk. I do not think people want to keep hearing me, hear me talk
00:23:18.440 the whole time. I do. Come on, continue. Sorry. So then you, when they asked you that, you were like,
00:23:24.880 no, we're not talking about this. We're not, but I actually said I have, I have what's similar to
00:23:30.800 the reporter's privilege. And that's it. Even if someone had, and I'm not saying anyone did,
00:23:35.540 and I'm like, do you have any evidence? I'm like, I'm very open with my sources on my post. I give
00:23:40.660 people credit most. I'm like, can you even tell me what exclusive thing that I even posted? Because
00:23:46.940 everything I try, I try my best to highlight the creators, you know, cause you guys like you,
00:23:52.680 you do amazing job. Like to me, the way that I look at it is this, that we are all working as a
00:23:58.140 team. Like, then I asked her, I was like, could you, I need to know like what's going on. Give me
00:24:03.580 a sort, what are you, why am I here? You know, what basis are you connecting me to Andy? What post?
00:24:08.820 Tell me the post that you're so, that you're questioning about me. And they didn't answer
00:24:13.340 that question. All of a sudden, the partner of the firm, she kind of like, she comes in and she's
00:24:17.060 like, you know what, you know, thank you so much. And she's like, we'll get back to you.
00:24:20.400 Oh, she means she interrupted it?
00:24:22.080 Yeah, because I was, I was upset that I felt like it was turning into an interrogation.
00:24:27.260 You know, I thought I was here to negotiate the stipulation of withdrawal, you know, but they're
00:24:33.100 instead asking me, you know, I thought they were like, I'm willing to just withdraw. And I was,
00:24:38.280 I thought that was what the meeting was about. So in the meeting, it really felt like, and here's
00:24:43.100 something I'm being very honest about, which I think is wrong. Look, like I said, there's standards
00:24:47.620 for a subpoena. You cannot just subpoena everybody, right? So what it looks like she did, Blake Lively's
00:24:54.780 law firm sadly did, they had no relevance. They could have, they could have gotten this information
00:25:00.000 from the party. There wasn't a really compelling reason. And even if that was, it doesn't meet the
00:25:04.060 first, the first two prongs, they were trying to get relevance after the fact with those voluntary
00:25:11.300 questions they were asking me. So that's not how it works. You don't, and then, and why I think that's
00:25:16.680 problematic is most people are not going to have that attorney or counsel, that knowledge or
00:25:20.400 understanding. So there is like, as I'm thinking about this, I, there's a couple of things I wanted
00:25:26.820 to say that. So when that meeting ends, she was willing to withdraw and guess what they did?
00:25:32.920 They sent me an email. First, they sent me an email saying that we're going to withdraw your account,
00:25:38.280 you know, basically because I just answered their question that I wasn't involved, you know,
00:25:43.480 and that was enough for them. And then, um, uh, then they sent me, then I said, then I asked them,
00:25:50.300 Hey, would you be willing? Like, what about that stipulation that I was talking about? And I
00:25:54.100 explained in the email, what I would like in that so that we are in the meeting of the minds that if,
00:25:59.520 if we're agreeing to this withdrawal, like, would that be something I could sign? You can sign that
00:26:03.940 we both are in the same page. We can submit it to the court. And I sent an email explaining what I
00:26:09.080 would want the stipulation to include. And then they reply back, Sarah, like, okay, like, could you
00:26:14.220 draft one? So that means they were willing to, uh, do one, right? So then I take my time and I draft
00:26:21.000 one and guess what? Last second, I don't, I, maybe there's a power behind the partner of the firm,
00:26:26.920 you know, somebody comes in, they're like, Oh, we're not going to do that at all.
00:26:30.240 You know? And then I said, okay, well then I, then, uh, you, you operated in bad faith,
00:26:35.460 you know, I didn't like that. And then I just thought it was suspicious because then they sent me
00:26:41.440 an email that says here, this is the proof that we have that we withdrew your account. And when I
00:26:48.620 clicked on it, guess what it said? It was an email to Google, not to X.
00:26:57.080 Wow.
00:26:57.440 So I'm like, were they, so I initially I was like, okay.
00:27:01.260 Did they think you were someone else the entire time or?
00:27:04.980 So it's like, yeah, that was like either your incompetence. I shouldn't say that. I take that
00:27:09.400 back. That's a little extreme. Maybe they're over there. They bit on more than they couldn't chew.
00:27:13.620 But I feel like this is what they've been doing the entire time. Uh, and I find it so suspicious
00:27:19.520 why they're dragging everyone into it. And then they're saying that, Oh, we got what we needed and
00:27:24.380 no one gave them anything. So I think there is like some kind of alternative plan here, uh, that
00:27:31.580 they wanted our information. Uh, and now they have your email, your full name and your home address.
00:27:40.040 I don't know if they have yours in information, but they do have that from everyone who filed
00:27:45.200 the motion or that we're in touch with them. So what can they do with that information? Now I was
00:27:51.880 talking about this, some people are saying, you know, it's never going to happen, but that they
00:27:55.260 could go after people in their respective States and she can file a protective order against people
00:28:03.060 in their States.
00:28:04.180 I actually think that's worse for her because, um, judge Lyman might as actually favorable to her,
00:28:09.340 but I don't think other judges will be, you know what I mean? And, uh, California, for example,
00:28:14.100 has more protections for privacy than, uh, so I actually think it won't be as favorable for her
00:28:20.500 if that's what her plan is. I don't want my reputation to be harmed because you made implications
00:28:25.940 that we were involved, you know, and in the email reply, this is what she said. And I think this is
00:28:32.020 going to be helpful to you. She goes that when we say that we got the information, it doesn't mean
00:28:39.640 that we got information to help with the smear camp campaign, but it's information that would
00:28:43.900 exclude you from being part of that. Yeah, I know. I know. I have an email.
00:28:48.940 Oh, how, how would they even get, how can they even say that? Because they didn't get any
00:28:56.960 information. Well, that was the information. This is so everything is like backwards in this case.
00:29:07.220 It's like they don't, they're trying to build a case around air. Like there's nothing there and
00:29:14.720 they're just trying to build things around it. I mean, it's so ridiculous at this point that you're
00:29:21.400 like, is this, are these grownups like doing this stuff? I mean, can I say something? I was
00:29:28.360 so disappointed. I felt like I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I wasted my time. If you
00:29:33.560 had no, like you shouldn't have asked me to draft it. If you did not want to agree to a stipulation,
00:29:38.160 this is not enough. This, this notice is not sufficient. You know, according to California law,
00:29:43.740 I gave you the benefit of doubt. I'm not entertaining this conversation with you anymore. Goodbye. And I'll be
00:29:48.960 filing. I was bad. And so then they emailed me back and it's like, okay, Gina, it seems like you
00:29:55.580 really want that notice. So what we'll do is, you know, cause I was pissed. I was like, if that same
00:30:00.700 day, cause they were working on the weekend, which I thought was hilarious. I felt bad, but then I'm
00:30:04.140 like, you want to know my personal opinion about them? I, I felt it was cordial. They were respectful
00:30:09.400 to me, but at the end of the day, I think the system is what I'm more mad at that they could do
00:30:15.340 these things and get away with it more than I'm individually upset with them. If that makes
00:30:19.840 sense, you know, cause the lawyers are going to do what a lawyer is going to do. They're going to
00:30:23.140 fight for that. And they're going to advocate for their client. They're not, they're not on our side.
00:30:26.620 We only, our attorneys are, we will be on our side. Right. Is it ethical? No, I still, even though
00:30:33.940 I will say maybe as a human being, they're all not horrible people at Blake's law firm.
00:30:38.840 That's great to know that. That's what I feel that they are. Cause I'm like, how can they do this to
00:30:46.380 people? Cause what they're doing right now, they're just terrorizing people. They're harassing people
00:30:51.080 every single day. I hope you are absolutely right. But you know what? I hope that they feel bad about
00:30:57.180 it. At least like you're saying, maybe they're not horrible people. So at least let's hope that
00:31:01.260 they feel a little bad about it. They are human beings. Yeah. But you know, Blake is also a human
00:31:07.080 being, but I don't think she has much empathy. So there are some certain people just don't have
00:31:16.840 the, uh, the ability to, you know, have empathy with others. And I feel like some attorneys probably
00:31:23.280 are like that. Can I tell you what I told them? I literally said it to their face. I'm like, you
00:31:27.340 make us lawyers look bad. And I'm very upset about that. I said it to them. Thank you. Thank you for all
00:31:34.200 of us for saying that. They're going to have private investigators. They're going to have fake
00:31:38.600 accounts, uh, Blake accounts, uh, and Justin Baldoni accounts. They're going to try to be this
00:31:44.220 pro Justin person on the internet, and they're going to get Intel on us. I do believe that even
00:31:50.920 if it was wrong Intel, that why she connected me to Andy, I don't know, maybe it could be literally
00:31:56.620 out of nowhere, but maybe it was a wrong Intel, a pro Justin Baldoni pretending to be a pro Justin
00:32:02.380 who was feeding them this weird information. We just have to be mindful. And I think we are often
00:32:08.160 so trusting to everybody. And we see the one thing, Oh, pro Justin Baldoni, everybody in the
00:32:13.760 pro Justin Baldoni is great. You know, be mindful, use your discernment skills. Thank you so much. I
00:32:19.760 hope I see you again here soon and then I'll follow you and we'll be in touch and everything and have a
00:32:24.780 good day. It's nighttime. It's dinner time here in Spain, but, um, yes, have a great day. Enjoy your dinner. Thank you.
00:32:32.380 Thank you so much to spiritual shift for sharing all of this. And as you could hear, she had some
00:32:36.760 good advice for you guys. If you are one of the 107, you should be careful. Don't have meetings
00:32:43.000 with her team. They're going to try and trick you into doing or saying something to make you look
00:32:48.560 guilty. So don't do that. Only communicate with her team via email, unless you have an attorney.
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00:33:18.420 Bye.