Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Ep 10： Justin Baldoni joins Blake Lively Deposition

00:00:00.000 They told me right away. I didn't even ask. They said, hey, the reason that we subpoenaed you,

00:00:05.920 are you ready for this?

00:00:11.760 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, the podcast. I'm Tash DeFlo, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:18.180 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Each week I unpack the madness,

00:00:23.560 the hypocrisy, and everything that infuriates me and inspires me about celebrity culture.

00:00:30.000 Especially everything going on in Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni legal feud. I did kind of

00:00:36.160 promise that in this podcast I would talk about other things and I will sometimes, but there's so

00:00:43.480 much going on right now and I feel like a lot of you guys that are following me on YouTube are just

00:00:48.180 waiting to get more updates on this. So I will give you that. I will say that on Monday I will be going

00:00:55.280 to Norway to spend some time with my family and get a little bit of a break because I do need to

00:01:00.360 turn off a little bit now. It's been a lot. So I won't be posting that much while I'm there. It's

00:01:07.140 probably going to be for about a week or so. But if anything big happens, I will jump on and give you

00:01:12.200 a little bit of an update. So stay tuned. Anyways, yesterday I spoke to one of the creators who was

00:01:18.300 subpoenaed on X, the lawyer. I don't know if you saw that interview. It was like a week ago or so

00:01:24.180 and now she has an update because she's spoken to Blake Lively's legal team and they told her

00:01:29.660 why they were subpoenaing her. And it's insane, you guys. So stay tuned for that interview at the

00:01:36.600 end of this video. Also, there is some big news, you guys, because yesterday Blake Lively was deposed

00:01:43.300 by Brian Friedman. I didn't think that was going to happen, but now I think that probably was a typo

00:01:49.700 in Daily Mail because they reported, and I think people also reported, that the deposition of Blake

00:01:56.200 Lively was postponed again. I didn't see that information anywhere else, but I thought, you know,

00:02:01.820 they said it, so it's probably true. Well, it wasn't true. Anyways, so yes, Blake Lively was deposed

00:02:09.860 yesterday. And guess who showed up? Justin Baldoni. Can you imagine the face of Blake when she saw

00:02:18.640 Justin Baldoni there? It is pretty normal for someone who's being sued like that to actually

00:02:24.600 show up at a deposition. So it's not like a big surprise that all the outlets wanted it to be.

00:02:30.860 But oh my God, could I give anything to be a fly on the wall during that deposition?

00:02:36.540 I think for Justin Baldoni, just to sit there and have her watch him while she's lying her teeth off 0.65

00:02:43.660 is a little satisfactory. I would think so. I know he's a very good person who doesn't want

00:02:49.740 any harm upon anyone, but I feel like any person would enjoy that moment a little bit. And I'm sure

00:02:57.320 it's also frustrating. And I'm 100% sure that she was crying and crying and crying during her

00:03:04.560 deposition. Because that's what these kind of people, these kind of narcissists usually do. And

00:03:10.200 you have to remember, it's much harder to keep your story straight when it's not true. I just know

00:03:15.920 that she's going to sit there and cry for hours, because she feels so guilty now. And there's no way

00:03:21.320 out. And that's the real reason why she's crying in this deposition. Anyways, Fox News did a story

00:03:27.340 where they were interviewing an attorney about this, what he thinks is going to happen on the,

00:03:31.220 at this deposition. And he said that they will likely do a deep dive into the videos of her joking

00:03:37.920 and flirting with Baldoni and get her to admit that she was doing so instead of perfectly feeling

00:03:43.480 uncomfortable as her representation has claimed. Yeah, I'm sure he was showing that video and how

00:03:48.860 she had to go through every second of it. And when she exactly felt like he was, you know, pushing her

00:03:55.220 too far with that kiss who lingered to it, which lingered too long, or when he bit her lip, or was

00:04:01.520 it her actually biting his lip. She's got a lot of explaining to do. 0.94

00:04:06.520 I feel so nosy. I know.

00:04:08.220 And my nose is so big.

00:04:11.420 Yes, I was hoping that we could address this. It's not too late. Just got to shut down. We've got to call

00:04:18.020 an insurance month and just deal with that.

00:04:19.980 Yeah, this employment and defamation attorney that they interviewed, his name is Cameron Dabalakshayi,

00:04:28.160 and he continues to say that each of their interactions will be analyzed and questioned,

00:04:33.180 and any misstatement by Lively can and will be used against her. I expect there to be multiple

00:04:39.480 deposition sessions as well, and for the Baldoni team to move for additional sessions.

00:04:44.100 So this will likely be the first of potentially a few depositions.

00:04:48.000 So yes, more coming soon for Blake Lively. I'm sure they were there for like seven or eight hours

00:04:54.420 yesterday, but she better buckle up for Brian Friedman. I don't know if any of this is going

00:04:59.960 to leak. It could happen, but I'm sure Brian Friedman is being a bit careful. So if it doesn't

00:05:05.180 come from him, maybe someone else would leak it. Who knows? I kind of hope that we will get a little

00:05:10.500 peek into what happened. But of course, don't break the rules. Yesterday, I did have an interesting

00:05:15.780 conversation with someone. We were talking about this whole scenario of why Ryan and Blake are doing

00:05:21.460 so many stupid things. She told me that sometimes lawyers are told by their clients, especially if

00:05:28.160 they have big egos like these guys, to do things that the lawyers don't agree with. And she said that

00:05:34.680 they probably didn't think it was a great idea to subpoena the content creators, but Blake and Ryan

00:05:40.620 might have pushed them to do so. And that's why there wasn't such a clear plan of what to do when

00:05:46.380 everyone filed motions to quash, that they would just withdraw everything. And I feel like it makes

00:05:52.540 sense that Ryan Reynolds will come up with something like that, just to kind of punish people, steal their

00:05:58.380 time and their money to do and to fight this and then have absolutely no plan behind it just to say

00:06:05.140 like, F you, I'm Ryan Reynolds, and I can do whatever I want. Because otherwise, why would the lawyers do

00:06:10.180 something like that? Anyways, in the meantime, when this was going on, Ryan Reynolds had a story planted

00:06:16.540 in USA Today, where they go through his career. I mean, how random is this article? The same day as

00:06:24.980 Blake Lively is being deposed, and all these motions to quash are hitting the docket. Ryan Reynolds,

00:06:31.820 there's a story in USA Today of Ryan Reynolds' career from Green Lantern to Deadpool. Like, what's the news

00:06:41.180 in this story exactly? Also, thank you, Bruce, for sending me this. He was commenting on this article

00:06:49.740 in People magazine, and it says Justin Baldoni's lawyer previously called the actor a person who wants to be

00:06:55.620 vindicated, and that's all that he cares about. Of course he wants to be vindicated. But then Bruce tried

00:07:01.700 to comment on in the comment section here, and his comments were always deactivated by people. And he

00:07:08.860 sent me some screenshots when someone was saying that Justin Baldoni is manipulative psychopath,

00:07:14.420 whatever. And then Bruce said that you must be new here. Blake lied. And People magazine retracted

00:07:21.840 his comments. And they did that with several other comments as well. And none of his comments were

00:07:28.660 offensive. So there's obviously someone sitting at people just removing all comments that are not

00:07:35.120 pro-Blake Lively. It's so ridiculous, but it's so obvious as well. As you've seen, they made, I don't

00:07:40.640 know how many articles they made just to promote Blake Lively's products, even selling them. One of them

00:07:46.500 they actually removed after I called them out saying that they should be marked as an advertisement.

00:07:51.380 And then all of a sudden, the article was gone. I don't know if it was because I mentioned it, but

00:07:56.640 they did actually remove the article. And the fight from the content creators continues. Perez Hilton

00:08:02.640 and Andy Signor filed their motions to quash. Perez Hilton did it in Las Vegas, and Andy Signor did it in

00:08:10.640 Florida, meaning that there are other judges that are actually going to look at their motions to quash.

00:08:17.060 That also means that Blake Lively needs to fight them in their state courts, which is amazing. And

00:08:25.040 local judges might be more sympathetic towards them, and they might not know much about this case.

00:08:30.540 And they might not think that a powerful celebrity should have access to all the personal emails and

00:08:36.440 everything else of private information from Perez Hilton and Andy Signor. You have to remember,

00:08:42.180 they received even broader subpoenas than the rest of us. We only got subpoenaed for our social media

00:08:48.720 accounts. They got subpoenaed for emails, phone calls, text messages, everything. There are also much

00:08:53.980 stricter anti-slap laws in Nevada and in Florida, so that also might help them. And this means more

00:09:01.240 lawyers for Blake Lively, more filings and more risk, and possibly more scrutiny in the media.

00:09:07.480 Also, we now know that there are 107 content creators that have been subpoenaed by Blake

00:09:16.020 Lively's lawyers. What has happened to the rest of them? Where are they? But before we get into that,

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00:10:30.680 of Surfshark VPN. Link in my description. Anyways, let's get back to all these content creators

00:10:36.220 because I don't even know who they are. That information hasn't been made public yet. It was

00:10:42.180 just from a hearing between Justin Baldoni's attorneys and the judge that someone picked it up

00:10:48.280 that they were talking about 107 content creators. I did see Pop Diaries, which is another channel,

00:10:56.500 a faceless channel, an anonymous channel, posted this on Instagram.

00:11:01.240 We were subpoenaed by Blake Lively. This is the scariest thing to ever happen to us on the

00:11:05.540 internet. Me and my best friend run the TikTok account, Pop Diaries. We make videos about pop

00:11:10.480 culture just like thousands of other people, but a couple weeks ago, we found out through social

00:11:15.180 media, not the courts, that Blake Lively subpoenaed TikTok should get our private information.

00:11:21.300 That includes our names, IP addresses, SIM card data, contacts, bank information,

00:11:26.480 even our payment methods, all because we criticized how she promoted It Ends With Us.

00:11:31.760 Yeah, let's not forget the devastation so many people have felt when they received these subpoenas.

00:11:36.340 Good news is that the judge actually did agree for them to continue to file a motion to cross

00:11:42.220 as Jane Doe and Jane Doe. So they're still anonymous. And of course, Blake Lively's team is going to

00:11:49.200 withdraw the subpoena before even the judge concede because that's what they do every time now.

00:11:54.360 More people just wasted time and got stressed. And as she said in this video,

00:11:59.240 she even got into a car crash because she was so stressed out about this.

00:12:03.320 Anyways, as I said in the beginning of this episode, I did speak to the anonymous ex-user

00:12:08.520 that has been subpoenaed or was subpoenaed by Blake Lively's lawyers. And she's an attorney herself.

00:12:15.880 She's an immigration lawyer. So for her, it was even a bigger shock when this happened.

00:12:21.440 And I spoke to her a couple of weeks ago when it just had happened. And now she's going to share

00:12:27.280 with you what actually happened and the absurd excuse they made for picking her specifically

00:12:33.960 for this subpoena on ex. You won't believe this.

00:12:37.900 I actually did have them meet and confer with them.

00:12:40.480 You did.

00:12:41.080 I will tell you how that went.

00:12:43.240 Oh, yes.

00:12:44.800 And I'm here because I know that there's a lot of people that have been subpoenaed and

00:12:49.780 they don't know exactly how to navigate this. And I'm not giving legal advice, but at least

00:12:54.240 I can prepare them somewhat of what to expect and general advice that I think might be helpful

00:12:59.460 to you. Like it was hard because I'm like, they were also attorneys, you know, and I'm going

00:13:04.400 after other attorneys. And then I'm like, oh, OK, you know, and I'm like, then I was worried

00:13:09.260 about Lyman. And I was like, you know, even if I file this motion, given how he's been

00:13:13.920 ruling, no matter how good the argument is going to be, what if he still rules in favor

00:13:19.320 of Blake Lively?

00:13:20.960 So I'm like, OK.

00:13:21.760 You felt like that could actually affect your career as an attorney?

00:13:26.300 It didn't make me feel like it would affect my opinion as an attorney.

00:13:32.060 No, I mean, like your career that you dragged into something like this and subpoenas.

00:13:36.300 Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Because that's one of the reasons I wanted to be anonymous.

00:13:40.600 Right. Like because I'm I'm a lawyer. I don't want my opinions to be affiliated with any

00:13:45.740 nonprofit or law firm. And and I'm a very honest person. I say what I mean and I mean

00:13:51.040 what I say. You know what I mean? And I'm very unapologetic about it. And nowadays people

00:13:56.260 are very politically correct and they want to be you know, it's it's very you could lose

00:14:01.040 your job for because of social media now. Like that's the reality that we're in, you know.

00:14:05.760 So I was like, you know, I just want to be able to speak freely, say what I need to say

00:14:10.940 without having to be worried about me being affiliated by anybody else. So that's why I

00:14:16.500 wanted that anonymous account to be able to just express myself freely.

00:14:20.800 Did they understand that you were a lawyer from the get go? Do you think that they actually

00:14:25.720 knew that before they subpoenaed you or were they a little surprised by you saying that to

00:14:30.220 them? I think they knew. I can I be very honest with you? Do not underestimate law firms,

00:14:35.960 guys. Like I've like, yes, I have done national litigation. I've worked very for a small period

00:14:41.960 of time. It's not my main area of practice, but I've worked in those type of atmospheres

00:14:46.420 where there is giant litigation firms. They are well equipped machines because I remember

00:14:52.920 when I worked for a civil litigation case, they had me assigned. You understand what I'm saying?

00:14:58.540 They had me assigned to particular people and I would monitor their social media. You know,

00:15:03.300 they hire private investigators when it's like lots and lots of million dollar money. Like when

00:15:08.880 when a high stake conflicts case is involved, money matters, unfortunately. And people are willing to

00:15:15.740 spend a lot of money to save their reputation, you know. So they're willing to do a lot, pay more

00:15:21.360 money behind the scenes than they are willing to pay the other party that they harmed. Right. So I

00:15:27.540 I, I, I'm very, I do think they knew or at the very least, I will say this. Maybe they didn't know

00:15:34.300 I, the spiritual shift was, but once I emailed them, there's no way they didn't look up my name.

00:15:40.100 They know my address now. They looked me up. They, they know everything. And I do think one of the

00:15:45.080 things they wanted from us, remember it was our names, our addresses and all of that stuff. Right.

00:15:51.660 I, I wrote that email. They responded that, okay, let's do a meet and confirm. So that was a bit

00:15:58.140 misleading because in my mind, I was thinking, okay, I told you that this is the only thing that

00:16:03.920 I'm willing to do a written stipulation, right. To withdraw. Right. Or I'm going to file the motion.

00:16:09.560 But when I got to the meeting and mind you, when I did have the zoom meeting, it was, and like I said,

00:16:16.740 what I do want to just say is that I like, I don't know how to explain this, but initially I felt like

00:16:27.300 there was this respect in the rapport. They were being respectful, but at the same time,

00:16:34.160 you have to be careful because there are technically ways during a zoom call, people can find your IP

00:16:40.880 address and whatnot. And this is if you're, if they're really playing dirty, like, you know what I mean?

00:16:45.640 Which I hope they are not in that level and that wouldn't be ethical for them to do. But when I was

00:16:51.640 in that meeting, first thing I noticed was there were two people, you know, and they had immediately

00:16:56.900 said not to record and not have anybody else present. So by default, they're outnumbering me.

00:17:03.900 Right. So for example, if I said, well, she said this, they're going to say, well, two of us said this,

00:17:10.080 you get what I'm saying? So there were tricks being played. I'm not going to say that. And that's just,

00:17:14.640 look, they're not representing us. That's one thing people have to know. Do not expect opposing

00:17:20.640 attorneys to ever do you any favors. You have to advocate for yourself. You have to. And to be

00:17:27.820 honest, I really didn't have anything to hide. You know what I mean? So I was like, you know,

00:17:31.380 I knew what was kind of happening and they didn't want me to have any other people, but I was there.

00:17:36.160 So then I, that itself kind of got me like a little bit like, okay, I see what's happening

00:17:41.720 here. And then, um, what I thought was going to be a, let's negotiate the stipulations of the,

00:17:49.660 of the withdrawal became, well, we would like to ask you some voluntary questions, you know,

00:17:56.240 and, um, this is getting juicy. But let me ask you, did your attorney do a meeting confer with them?

00:18:05.160 Yeah. They did. Uh, I don't know what they used. I just heard that they had a meeting with them

00:18:12.580 and, uh, nothing came from it really. They were just saying, cause he wanted to know exactly what

00:18:19.460 they wanted, what they were after. And then they said that they wanted to prove that I was paid by

00:18:25.980 Wayfair parties. Interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. So I'll tell you what they told me. They actually

00:18:33.140 told me, which everybody else said that they never responded to them. A lot of the content creators

00:18:38.100 said they asked like, why did you subpoena us? And they actually did tell me. So let me tell you

00:18:43.780 what I, yeah, let's share. So then what happened in the meeting was, so they were cordial. Like I said,

00:18:50.400 they were nice. So that was that kind of moment where I'm just like, okay, this is an attorney

00:18:54.260 talking to attorney. And there was a human moment there, you know, for good or bad. And, um,

00:18:59.200 but then they were being attorneys and they're always going to be Blake's attorneys. And they're

00:19:03.280 like, Oh, we have some voluntary questions. And one of them, they, they basically said that they're,

00:19:09.480 they told me right away. I didn't even ask. They said, Hey, the reason that we subpoenaed you,

00:19:15.160 are you ready for this? Andy Signor.

00:19:17.760 Really? That's why they said they subpoenaed me. And then I was so, and I'm like, huh? Like I was

00:19:26.520 so confused. I was like, so confused. But then it hit, he's listed as one of the names in the tag

00:19:33.060 contact list. Yeah. But so why would they subpoena you because of him? Well, that's,

00:19:38.680 and that's when they wouldn't tell. Right. So then I, have you been on a show before?

00:19:42.700 No, I have not. I have not been to Andy's show. I don't even think Andy shouted me out ever. I

00:19:49.540 don't even think he even mentioned me in his show ever once. No, no joke. I'm not lying. So that was

00:19:54.300 so bizarre and weird. Did you ever tweet anything or X any, do you say still tweet? I don't, I'm not

00:20:00.900 on X. Did you X anything about Popcorn Planet? Don't come to X. It's a dangerous world. I know. I

00:20:09.060 know. I feel like you go down that rabbit hole and it's just like, Oh, very dark. But, um, did you

00:20:14.580 ever tweet anything that he said or something like that? Or? I mean, I literally cannot. I, I mean,

00:20:22.040 obviously they withdrew the subpoena because they knew that there was no connection. Cause I asked

00:20:25.800 them, I said, what are you? I'm like, okay. I'm like, if Andy is your target, how are you connecting

00:20:33.400 him to me? What's the relevancy of this? How are you connecting me? They didn't have an

00:20:38.320 answer. They didn't have an answer. So, um, then I'm all, and then I'm just like, okay,

00:20:45.480 so what are you going to do now? Are you going to subpoena all his million subscribers? Now

00:20:49.720 everybody who's liked him, who commented, are you subscribed to his channel? I, I think I

00:20:56.540 am where I was, or I don't know. Like, I don't even know. Like, so that would be, oh my gosh.

00:21:01.740 Wow. Yeah. And no, Andy does an amazing job. Don't like, he's a great, I think everybody should

00:21:07.880 be following him. His content is also amazing, but no, like I, I never was on his show. I don't

00:21:14.280 know what they're talking about. And I'm, I'm curious myself, like what, cause they obviously,

00:21:19.820 maybe not obviously, that's why it's, that's why they withdrew the subpoena. Cause if they actually

00:21:24.480 had something, I think they would have moved forward. Right. Well, they haven't moved forward with

00:21:28.620 anyone. And that's what I find so suspicious here. And that's why I almost like regret what I did

00:21:35.960 because I'm like, should I have done more? I don't regret it. Cause there's no, there's no regret

00:21:41.080 because technically we could still do something now, even now. And I never promised to them that

00:21:45.900 I'm never going to take any action. I just said, as of now, I won't be filing anything. I gave them

00:21:51.880 the same reasoning that they said. So anyways, the second question they asked me was, so it was kind of

00:21:57.280 like the hypothesis that I had when I was on your show the last time. I don't know if you remember,

00:22:01.680 remember I was joking. I was like, maybe they think I'm your bot, right? Or I'm your paid show.

00:22:06.280 Like, remember I was thinking like saying, joking that maybe they think we are, I'm working for the

00:22:10.620 bigger creators. But then guess what the second question was? The second question was, has anybody

00:22:18.300 been providing you sources, news about Blake Lively on like anonymous accounts or privately have,

00:22:24.600 are they feeding you information about Blake Lively? And that's when I shut it down. Cause I'm like,

00:22:29.760 you know what I mean? Like, okay, they're now just digging. They're just, it's like a fishing

00:22:33.220 expedition at this point. That's, I, sorry, I forgot to say that. That's also what they asked my

00:22:38.200 attorney. Anonymous sources. That's what they think is happening. So they think Wayfair parties are

00:22:46.540 creating these, I think, paid shows or maybe these like, you know, accounts that are just like feeding

00:22:52.260 us this information. So my response was... We're not talking national security here. It feels like

00:22:57.540 we're talking about like this, like big, but it's like, oh no, it's because Blake Lively is not popular.

00:23:03.760 We have to remember that. Okay. I'm so sorry. I interrupted you, but I just find it when we talk

00:23:07.820 about it, it sounds like we're talking about like the government here, but no. Can you interrupt me

00:23:12.520 more often? I love it when you talk. I do not think people want to keep hearing me, hear me talk

00:23:18.440 the whole time. I do. Come on, continue. Sorry. So then you, when they asked you that, you were like,

00:23:24.880 no, we're not talking about this. We're not, but I actually said I have, I have what's similar to

00:23:30.800 the reporter's privilege. And that's it. Even if someone had, and I'm not saying anyone did,

00:23:35.540 and I'm like, do you have any evidence? I'm like, I'm very open with my sources on my post. I give

00:23:40.660 people credit most. I'm like, can you even tell me what exclusive thing that I even posted? Because

00:23:46.940 everything I try, I try my best to highlight the creators, you know, cause you guys like you,

00:23:52.680 you do amazing job. Like to me, the way that I look at it is this, that we are all working as a

00:23:58.140 team. Like, then I asked her, I was like, could you, I need to know like what's going on. Give me

00:24:03.580 a sort, what are you, why am I here? You know, what basis are you connecting me to Andy? What post?

00:24:08.820 Tell me the post that you're so, that you're questioning about me. And they didn't answer

00:24:13.340 that question. All of a sudden, the partner of the firm, she kind of like, she comes in and she's

00:24:17.060 like, you know what, you know, thank you so much. And she's like, we'll get back to you.

00:24:20.400 Oh, she means she interrupted it?

00:24:22.080 Yeah, because I was, I was upset that I felt like it was turning into an interrogation.

00:24:27.260 You know, I thought I was here to negotiate the stipulation of withdrawal, you know, but they're

00:24:33.100 instead asking me, you know, I thought they were like, I'm willing to just withdraw. And I was,

00:24:38.280 I thought that was what the meeting was about. So in the meeting, it really felt like, and here's

00:24:43.100 something I'm being very honest about, which I think is wrong. Look, like I said, there's standards

00:24:47.620 for a subpoena. You cannot just subpoena everybody, right? So what it looks like she did, Blake Lively's

00:24:54.780 law firm sadly did, they had no relevance. They could have, they could have gotten this information

00:25:00.000 from the party. There wasn't a really compelling reason. And even if that was, it doesn't meet the

00:25:04.060 first, the first two prongs, they were trying to get relevance after the fact with those voluntary

00:25:11.300 questions they were asking me. So that's not how it works. You don't, and then, and why I think that's

00:25:16.680 problematic is most people are not going to have that attorney or counsel, that knowledge or

00:25:20.400 understanding. So there is like, as I'm thinking about this, I, there's a couple of things I wanted

00:25:26.820 to say that. So when that meeting ends, she was willing to withdraw and guess what they did?

00:25:32.920 They sent me an email. First, they sent me an email saying that we're going to withdraw your account,

00:25:38.280 you know, basically because I just answered their question that I wasn't involved, you know,

00:25:43.480 and that was enough for them. And then, um, uh, then they sent me, then I said, then I asked them,

00:25:50.300 Hey, would you be willing? Like, what about that stipulation that I was talking about? And I

00:25:54.100 explained in the email, what I would like in that so that we are in the meeting of the minds that if,

00:25:59.520 if we're agreeing to this withdrawal, like, would that be something I could sign? You can sign that

00:26:03.940 we both are in the same page. We can submit it to the court. And I sent an email explaining what I

00:26:09.080 would want the stipulation to include. And then they reply back, Sarah, like, okay, like, could you

00:26:14.220 draft one? So that means they were willing to, uh, do one, right? So then I take my time and I draft

00:26:21.000 one and guess what? Last second, I don't, I, maybe there's a power behind the partner of the firm,

00:26:26.920 you know, somebody comes in, they're like, Oh, we're not going to do that at all.

00:26:30.240 You know? And then I said, okay, well then I, then, uh, you, you operated in bad faith,

00:26:35.460 you know, I didn't like that. And then I just thought it was suspicious because then they sent me

00:26:41.440 an email that says here, this is the proof that we have that we withdrew your account. And when I

00:26:48.620 clicked on it, guess what it said? It was an email to Google, not to X.

00:26:57.080 Wow.

00:26:57.440 So I'm like, were they, so I initially I was like, okay.

00:27:01.260 Did they think you were someone else the entire time or?

00:27:04.980 So it's like, yeah, that was like either your incompetence. I shouldn't say that. I take that

00:27:09.400 back. That's a little extreme. Maybe they're over there. They bit on more than they couldn't chew.

00:27:13.620 But I feel like this is what they've been doing the entire time. Uh, and I find it so suspicious

00:27:19.520 why they're dragging everyone into it. And then they're saying that, Oh, we got what we needed and

00:27:24.380 no one gave them anything. So I think there is like some kind of alternative plan here, uh, that

00:27:31.580 they wanted our information. Uh, and now they have your email, your full name and your home address.

00:27:40.040 I don't know if they have yours in information, but they do have that from everyone who filed

00:27:45.200 the motion or that we're in touch with them. So what can they do with that information? Now I was

00:27:51.880 talking about this, some people are saying, you know, it's never going to happen, but that they

00:27:55.260 could go after people in their respective States and she can file a protective order against people 0.99

00:28:03.060 in their States.

00:28:04.180 I actually think that's worse for her because, um, judge Lyman might as actually favorable to her,

00:28:09.340 but I don't think other judges will be, you know what I mean? And, uh, California, for example,

00:28:14.100 has more protections for privacy than, uh, so I actually think it won't be as favorable for her 0.94

00:28:20.500 if that's what her plan is. I don't want my reputation to be harmed because you made implications

00:28:25.940 that we were involved, you know, and in the email reply, this is what she said. And I think this is

00:28:32.020 going to be helpful to you. She goes that when we say that we got the information, it doesn't mean

00:28:39.640 that we got information to help with the smear camp campaign, but it's information that would

00:28:43.900 exclude you from being part of that. Yeah, I know. I know. I have an email.

00:28:48.940 Oh, how, how would they even get, how can they even say that? Because they didn't get any

00:28:56.960 information. Well, that was the information. This is so everything is like backwards in this case.

00:29:07.220 It's like they don't, they're trying to build a case around air. Like there's nothing there and

00:29:14.720 they're just trying to build things around it. I mean, it's so ridiculous at this point that you're

00:29:21.400 like, is this, are these grownups like doing this stuff? I mean, can I say something? I was

00:29:28.360 so disappointed. I felt like I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I wasted my time. If you

00:29:33.560 had no, like you shouldn't have asked me to draft it. If you did not want to agree to a stipulation,

00:29:38.160 this is not enough. This, this notice is not sufficient. You know, according to California law,

00:29:43.740 I gave you the benefit of doubt. I'm not entertaining this conversation with you anymore. Goodbye. And I'll be

00:29:48.960 filing. I was bad. And so then they emailed me back and it's like, okay, Gina, it seems like you

00:29:55.580 really want that notice. So what we'll do is, you know, cause I was pissed. I was like, if that same

00:30:00.700 day, cause they were working on the weekend, which I thought was hilarious. I felt bad, but then I'm

00:30:04.140 like, you want to know my personal opinion about them? I, I felt it was cordial. They were respectful

00:30:09.400 to me, but at the end of the day, I think the system is what I'm more mad at that they could do

00:30:15.340 these things and get away with it more than I'm individually upset with them. If that makes

00:30:19.840 sense, you know, cause the lawyers are going to do what a lawyer is going to do. They're going to

00:30:23.140 fight for that. And they're going to advocate for their client. They're not, they're not on our side.

00:30:26.620 We only, our attorneys are, we will be on our side. Right. Is it ethical? No, I still, even though

00:30:33.940 I will say maybe as a human being, they're all not horrible people at Blake's law firm.

00:30:38.840 That's great to know that. That's what I feel that they are. Cause I'm like, how can they do this to

00:30:46.380 people? Cause what they're doing right now, they're just terrorizing people. They're harassing people

00:30:51.080 every single day. I hope you are absolutely right. But you know what? I hope that they feel bad about

00:30:57.180 it. At least like you're saying, maybe they're not horrible people. So at least let's hope that

00:31:01.260 they feel a little bad about it. They are human beings. Yeah. But you know, Blake is also a human

00:31:07.080 being, but I don't think she has much empathy. So there are some certain people just don't have

00:31:16.840 the, uh, the ability to, you know, have empathy with others. And I feel like some attorneys probably

00:31:23.280 are like that. Can I tell you what I told them? I literally said it to their face. I'm like, you

00:31:27.340 make us lawyers look bad. And I'm very upset about that. I said it to them. Thank you. Thank you for all

00:31:34.200 of us for saying that. They're going to have private investigators. They're going to have fake

00:31:38.600 accounts, uh, Blake accounts, uh, and Justin Baldoni accounts. They're going to try to be this

00:31:44.220 pro Justin person on the internet, and they're going to get Intel on us. I do believe that even

00:31:50.920 if it was wrong Intel, that why she connected me to Andy, I don't know, maybe it could be literally

00:31:56.620 out of nowhere, but maybe it was a wrong Intel, a pro Justin Baldoni pretending to be a pro Justin

00:32:02.380 who was feeding them this weird information. We just have to be mindful. And I think we are often

00:32:08.160 so trusting to everybody. And we see the one thing, Oh, pro Justin Baldoni, everybody in the

00:32:13.760 pro Justin Baldoni is great. You know, be mindful, use your discernment skills. Thank you so much. I

00:32:19.760 hope I see you again here soon and then I'll follow you and we'll be in touch and everything and have a

00:32:24.780 good day. It's nighttime. It's dinner time here in Spain, but, um, yes, have a great day. Enjoy your dinner. Thank you.

00:32:32.380 Thank you so much to spiritual shift for sharing all of this. And as you could hear, she had some

00:32:36.760 good advice for you guys. If you are one of the 107, you should be careful. Don't have meetings 1.00

00:32:43.000 with her team. They're going to try and trick you into doing or saying something to make you look

00:32:48.560 guilty. So don't do that. Only communicate with her team via email, unless you have an attorney.

00:32:57.100 Anyways, thank you guys so much for watching. I really appreciate all your support. And if you

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00:33:07.420 of Flawsome Talk and I'll see you in my next one. I will be posting a couple before I leave for

00:33:14.320 Norway. So stay tuned for more, for more updates this weekend.

00:33:18.420 Bye.

Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 01, 2025

Ep 10： Justin Baldoni joins Blake Lively Deposition

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