Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 08, 2025


Ep 11： Ageism and Hypocrisy in Hollywood


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Mary Beth York has worked in Hollywood for many years as a makeup artist. She s met everyone in the industry and shared some of her most cringe-worthy experiences. In this episode, she talks about Hollywood beauty standards and why she thinks they re insane.

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00:00:00.000 I'll be doing someone's makeup and they'll start to look up at me and I'm like, oh no.
00:00:04.460 And they'll say, wow, our eyes are really starting to go, aren't they?
00:00:09.020 And I'm like, I literally, well, just dramatically.
00:00:13.120 Oh, I've had a lot of people say that.
00:00:20.560 Hi, and welcome to Flossom Talk, the podcast.
00:00:23.440 I'm Kjasti Floor, journalist, Hollywood troublemaker,
00:00:27.180 and your favorite voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:32.520 Each week, I unpack the madness, the hypocrisy,
00:00:35.780 and other things that I find infuriating or fascinating about celebrity culture.
00:00:40.940 So let's get into it.
00:00:42.660 Today's guest, I've had her on before and everyone loved her so much and we kept in touch.
00:00:48.600 Her name is Mary Beth York and she's worked in Hollywood for many, many years as a makeup artist.
00:00:55.260 She's met everyone, she's been doing every award show,
00:00:58.600 and she shared already some of her celebrity stories with you guys.
00:01:03.620 She shared a horrific experience she had with Sharon Stone.
00:01:07.320 I will leave a link to that episode below if you missed that.
00:01:10.600 I really adore her.
00:01:12.100 She's amazing.
00:01:13.040 But in this episode, we're going to talk more about Hollywood beauty standards
00:01:17.040 and why we think they are absolutely insane.
00:01:22.620 This is Mary Beth York.
00:01:24.800 Mary Beth, it's so lovely to see you again.
00:01:27.880 Thank you so much for being on Flossom Talk for the second time.
00:01:31.900 Thank you.
00:01:32.780 And as I was just saying, I am like your number one fan.
00:01:35.720 So I'm so excited to be here.
00:01:38.400 And yeah, this is amazing.
00:01:40.160 So thank you.
00:01:41.100 Oh, so we had a great conversation last time.
00:01:44.180 You were talking about some of your like experiences working in Hollywood
00:01:47.880 because you are a makeup artist and you worked in Hollywood for many years
00:01:51.880 and have some interesting experiences with that.
00:01:55.100 Some good, some bad, some ugly.
00:02:00.580 And lately I've been talking a lot on my channel about beauty standards
00:02:04.480 and what frustrates me about it, especially because we are expected to look like we're 30 years old
00:02:12.440 for the rest of our lives, probably, basically.
00:02:15.180 Yeah.
00:02:15.600 Yeah.
00:02:16.200 And then pretend like we're not doing nothing to achieve that.
00:02:20.060 And then, you know, people end up looking like aliens.
00:02:24.000 Right.
00:02:24.780 What do you think?
00:02:26.640 Well, you know, it's really sad is what I think.
00:02:29.760 I posted something on Instagram recently that was like, be an original in a world of,
00:02:37.620 and it didn't say Kardashians, but there was like, you know, 25 women that all looked exactly the same.
00:02:43.260 And it's like just individuality has been completely wiped out.
00:02:47.180 And, you know, I think when you're younger and you see your whole peer group doing it,
00:02:52.160 like we'll say like the Kylie's type of age range, like I can almost give them a pass.
00:02:57.360 But, you know, when you get older, you, to me, I just see it as such a sign of desperation.
00:03:03.020 It makes me really sad.
00:03:04.680 And, you know, especially like here in Scottsdale, like the BLMs are a big deal. 1.00
00:03:09.620 Is that, is that what it's called?
00:03:11.240 The butt, the butt lifts, whatever. 0.95
00:03:13.680 Oh, is it called BLM?
00:03:15.540 BB.
00:03:16.340 A butt lift.
00:03:17.640 BB.
00:03:18.480 It's a BB.
00:03:20.020 I don't, BBL?
00:03:21.720 Yeah.
00:03:22.040 I don't know.
00:03:22.560 But anyways, I just think, what type of a man are you attracting?
00:03:27.420 And, you know, that's the biggest thing is who is the audience for all of these, you know, these procedures.
00:03:35.220 And for women that actually know who they are, that actually either have a man that already loves them
00:03:41.820 or wants to attract a man that loves them for who they are.
00:03:46.320 Personally, I would rather be single than, than ascribe to that.
00:03:50.340 And it also makes you very disposable, you know, and replaceable because those attributes all can be bought.
00:03:58.120 So, yeah.
00:03:59.720 Yeah.
00:04:00.140 I think it's so sad.
00:04:01.400 And I think also, especially when you're talking about young women, I feel like when they're doing all these procedures,
00:04:06.380 when they're so young, some of them, they can't, you know, when you start putting things in your lips,
00:04:11.660 when you're in your twenties and they just get bigger and bigger and you have to fill in more and more and more.
00:04:16.040 And finally, you just have to like do surgery to kind of just like make everything, you know, not drop.
00:04:24.380 Because I've seen those lips that just fall further and further down so that you can't see the teeth anymore.
00:04:29.740 You can see them from the side.
00:04:31.360 Yeah.
00:04:31.900 Yeah.
00:04:32.120 And then one day, you know, you don't want those lips anymore and then you can't remove it.
00:04:39.640 I remember that with, what's her name?
00:04:41.400 Terry Hatch.
00:04:42.260 No, that real housewife in Beverly Hills. 1.00
00:04:45.460 She regretted it.
00:04:48.220 Yeah.
00:04:48.460 Lisa.
00:04:49.360 Lisa Rinna.
00:04:51.080 Oh my gosh.
00:04:51.780 Lisa Rinna.
00:04:52.220 Yeah.
00:04:52.860 Queen of lips.
00:04:53.860 Yeah.
00:04:54.900 So what is your experience working with these actresses?
00:04:59.000 You know, do you ever, do they ever talk to you about these things or did they, you know?
00:05:03.140 You know, the main thing that I found interesting because, you know, I told you I work there or I
00:05:09.200 don't know if I told you, I had it on my podcast and I have a new book coming out and I tell my
00:05:13.360 whole story, you know, how I did go over to LA.
00:05:15.960 I work for Jose Ebert on Rodeo Drive and I was exposed to all of this, like in my, my, you
00:05:21.720 know, early twenties and I just was blown away.
00:05:25.720 Um, I just felt like there was no soul there.
00:05:27.980 And again, uh, then I came back, opened my spas, but I always went in and out and I did
00:05:34.440 all this like MB York ambushes, Hollywood and all my advertising.
00:05:38.660 And I had so many celebrities.
00:05:40.120 So I was always doing Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globes, all of the things.
00:05:44.140 But usually what would happen is I would go there and you're just, my jaw would be on
00:05:49.140 the ground of the reality, you know, and then I still came back and like smiled, like it's
00:05:54.180 all great because it's really sad.
00:05:56.800 As far as the women go, um, you know, there's a vast array, you know, like I think we talked 1.00
00:06:01.500 about last time, like any type of people, but most of them I found were very clueless,
00:06:08.260 like about anything to do with their makeup.
00:06:11.460 Like, uh, they've always had it done for them, you know, and they're just completely clueless.
00:06:17.740 And obviously their, uh, program is desperation because they, um, are so easily replaced and
00:06:26.400 it's such high stakes, you know, to keep their jobs and always somebody younger coming up.
00:06:31.820 And so I just think, you know, it hardens their exterior and when they're in that world,
00:06:37.980 you know, you can't get out of it unscathed.
00:06:41.020 You know, I, I did it briefly.
00:06:42.680 I was in like four movies and I did some of the modeling stuff and I just hated it.
00:06:47.700 All the rejection.
00:06:48.460 I was like, I want to be in control of my life.
00:06:50.820 Like I can't sit here and line up behind a hundred other girls and hope, wish, want, 0.64
00:06:56.820 and wonder, you know, I'm like, I'm going to create my life.
00:06:59.600 And I just think, again, it's a, it's a city of like lost souls and it attracts wounded
00:07:06.180 people a lot, you know, because they want that validation.
00:07:10.560 There's even a book out there that, that talks about most of the women in Hollywood have like 0.99
00:07:16.660 unresolved daddy issues and they just want all of this adoration, you know, to fill that,
00:07:22.020 that hole inside of them.
00:07:23.860 So I would think plastic surgery, plastic surgery would go really well, hand in hand.
00:07:30.120 They're, you know, they don't have that sense of self that can say, no, I'm not doing that.
00:07:36.160 And I, I'm not judging people that do minor things or something really bothers them.
00:07:40.780 Like go do it.
00:07:42.520 You know, I'm not like against it per se, but again, you're going under anesthesia.
00:07:48.300 You can die.
00:07:49.220 You know, if you have children or people that love you, you know, I would hope my husband
00:07:54.860 would be like, you're not doing that, you know, instead of, oh, let's go, let's go get
00:08:00.220 this enhanced.
00:08:01.620 And you know, what upsets me about it all is that it's celebrated as beauty and like, look,
00:08:07.000 she's so beautiful.
00:08:08.060 Look, she's 50. 0.78
00:08:09.420 She looks so beautiful.
00:08:10.580 She's 60. 0.68
00:08:11.440 Look at her.
00:08:11.940 She looks ageless.
00:08:12.880 And it's like, no, I mean that that's not attainable.
00:08:18.200 And it doesn't look like they're younger.
00:08:20.880 They just look like they had a lot of work done.
00:08:23.680 So you think, and we're being sold to this by design.
00:08:27.580 And, you know, we talked last week about a lot of the stories circulating around, you
00:08:33.120 know, about how, you know, in Hollywood, Jennifer Lawrence is playing a 39 year old when she's
00:08:38.940 19 or 20, you know, and that they just erase women after the age of like 24. 1.00
00:08:44.840 And like the 30 year olds are playing grandmothers and like, it's so skewed that if you're, if
00:08:51.740 you're in that culture of watching these shows and movies, you know, and then really getting
00:08:57.200 reeled into like the housewife shows and all of that, like I never have.
00:09:02.040 Um, and I, I see the appeal, you know, it's mindless if you're going to listen to like the
00:09:07.880 Kardashians or whoever, but when you see these people that have, you know, for the most part,
00:09:13.280 very, um, selfish lives, you know, very superficial and are they doing anything that's
00:09:21.420 good for the world?
00:09:22.500 Is there anything of value inside of them as a person, you know, and our whole society is
00:09:27.860 just like clapping and throwing popcorn in the air, celebrating, you know, yay, more plastic
00:09:34.320 surgery, more toxic relationships, you know?
00:09:37.920 So my, my new podcast and not to go segue right into that, but I talk a lot about unhooking
00:09:44.960 from society's toxic traps.
00:09:47.020 And I want to say to you super quick, because you deserve to be celebrated.
00:09:51.640 And I was listening to your podcast.
00:09:53.960 I believe it was this morning.
00:09:55.000 And you probably filmed it a few days ago, I don't know, but you were just saying how
00:09:58.840 down you've been feeling because you're taking on the weight of like really standing up for
00:10:05.980 people as a whole.
00:10:07.020 And you've said it so many times, you know, this is about our free speech.
00:10:10.680 You know, this is about a lot more things than all of the journalists that are being attacked
00:10:16.380 right now.
00:10:17.300 And I feel like your divine mission is to do this and it's not easy.
00:10:22.040 And so I applaud you because you're, you have such a great following and they're like-minded
00:10:27.580 people that are just so happy to find someone, myself included.
00:10:32.220 That's why I watch you every single day.
00:10:34.080 Someone that consistently speaks the truth, you know, you just call it all out and society
00:10:40.760 needs that.
00:10:41.820 So you're doing your mission.
00:10:44.140 So not everyone is on their mission, but you're like, you're fulfilled because even though it's
00:10:48.300 hard, it feeds your soul.
00:10:50.780 Like, you know, you have a purpose and that's the difference between you and most of these
00:10:56.580 women in Hollywood running in a bathing suit.
00:11:00.760 You know, thank you for saying that.
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00:12:48.600 I did have a podcast episode on Friday where I talked about women, you know, our age and
00:12:54.640 older that are running around in their bikinis on Instagram looking for validation and calling 0.99
00:13:00.640 it liberation and calling it to be free.
00:13:03.960 Well, I think the opposite is the facts.
00:13:07.060 But let me ask you something personal.
00:13:09.400 How do you deal with aging?
00:13:11.700 Because for me, I find it challenging.
00:13:15.020 I have to be completely honest.
00:13:16.760 I go one day and I'm like, oh my God, who is that person when I look myself in the mirror?
00:13:21.540 Because I feel like someone else inside.
00:13:23.940 And then I'm like, oh, maybe I should do something like that.
00:13:27.140 That looks so great.
00:13:28.280 I have a friend who did a facelift.
00:13:29.900 I'm like, oh, if I do this, that's going to look nice, you know?
00:13:35.080 So what do you, how do you deal with these voices in your hand?
00:13:39.220 Well, I just want to start by saying that at the age of 19, I started doing makeup.
00:13:44.540 And, you know, I was for many years doing 10, 15 women a day.
00:13:49.640 And I would hear over and over and over and over and over, just you wait.
00:13:53.760 Like every woman was so negative about just how stressed they were about aging. 1.00
00:13:58.240 And I decided then I will never be that way.
00:14:01.060 And I'm not like I've stuck to it.
00:14:03.440 And one of the ways is I kind of like live in my Barbie bubble.
00:14:06.920 Like what you think of me is not my business.
00:14:09.620 Like I'm good.
00:14:11.220 Like I, and again, there's like right now I have zero Botox, zero fillers.
00:14:16.500 You know, I, I, I think somebody maybe puts a friend of mine.
00:14:19.760 You look amazing.
00:14:20.500 I just have to put it out there.
00:14:22.060 You do look really amazing.
00:14:23.760 Thank you.
00:14:24.180 I've done some micro needling recently, which that definitely works.
00:14:28.260 And I'm not saying I'll never do it again.
00:14:30.260 But I personally like to start to feel convicted and I want to be, you know, I don't want to be a phony, you know, but I also think if you admit it, you know, it's a little bit better.
00:14:40.960 I'm not saying I'll never do that again.
00:14:42.900 Like we don't know what five, 10 years is going to bring.
00:14:46.580 And I, I don't think it's fun for anyone to feel like you're decaying, you know, but so two other things.
00:14:53.280 One is I don't accept other people's negative affirmations.
00:14:57.100 And I've talked about this before too, where I'll be doing someone's makeup and they'll start to look up at me and I'm like, oh no, here it comes.
00:15:04.580 Cause they're going to make some kind of comparison.
00:15:06.540 I'm like, this is about you.
00:15:08.580 Don't start talking about me.
00:15:10.580 And they'll say, wow, our eyes are really starting to go.
00:15:14.480 Aren't they?
00:15:15.060 And I'm like, I literally will just dramatically.
00:15:19.140 Oh, I I've had a lot of people say that.
00:15:21.740 Like they try to bring me into their club of decline.
00:15:24.720 And I'm like, wait a minute.
00:15:26.740 I'm like, yours may be mine.
00:15:28.520 Aren't like, leave me out of your negative affirmations.
00:15:31.040 And I make it a joke, but like, I'm serious too.
00:15:33.760 So I have very strong beliefs in terms of like, if you expect something, it's going to happen.
00:15:41.180 Certain, you know, elements are, uh, what's the word, you know, inevitable.
00:15:46.560 But I feel like if you are healthy, you know, I was just listening to another podcast on this,
00:15:51.480 this morning.
00:15:52.100 Cause I've been sick and I missed a whole week of like my orange theory.
00:15:55.180 But if you're working out and you're doing, I do the, the red light sauna, hot works workouts.
00:16:01.280 Like if you, if you know your body and you eat healthy, like I'm vegetarian and I'm not perfect,
00:16:07.800 you know, but I plow myself with good things.
00:16:11.180 And if I do something bad, you know, drink too much wine, which isn't often,
00:16:14.660 I'll plow myself with green juices the next day to like undo it.
00:16:19.420 And so I think the difference in aging for people in terms of people that are healthy
00:16:24.320 and people that aren't, there's a big, huge range.
00:16:27.440 And I just think the plastic surgery part, you know, again, I think if you're in your
00:16:32.640 seventies, you're healthy, you know, and you have thick skin that you've maintained in a
00:16:37.120 really good way.
00:16:37.780 And you want to have something pulled back and it makes you feel better.
00:16:40.760 Like do it, but this whole trend of like everyone trying to look like the same person
00:16:46.880 and being told through society that this is what's beautiful.
00:16:51.680 Men don't like it, you know, I mean, some do, I guess, but you know, whenever, when I
00:16:56.620 wonder what it's like to kiss those lips, I'm going to show that the clip that I showed
00:17:00.540 you before we started this, which is Jamie Lee Curtis in the Guardian actually pose.
00:17:08.720 Yeah, me too.
00:17:09.500 She is a firecracker. 1.00
00:17:12.380 Yes.
00:17:13.100 She doesn't care what people think about her. 1.00
00:17:16.240 And I think it's so refreshing.
00:17:18.940 So what was your meeting like with her?
00:17:20.640 What did you think about her?
00:17:22.740 Well, I got called onto this set to do, and it was funny because it was just out of the
00:17:26.700 blue.
00:17:26.920 I was in Malibu, like shopping with my daughter on vacation and this makeup artist called
00:17:31.380 and was like, you need to come do your beauty ammo on all these celebrities.
00:17:34.440 So I came and we didn't know who was going to be there.
00:17:38.060 And it was Jamie Lee Curtis, Jane, Jane Lynch, the whole cast of Glee, Martin Sheen, Kevin
00:17:43.260 Bacon, Brad Pitt, George Clooney.
00:17:45.420 It was unbelievable.
00:17:46.080 But I had to do my beauty ammo on all of them before the makeup team did the makeup. 0.99
00:17:52.200 And she just is, again, a nice person, like people that have confidence.
00:17:56.120 They don't throw around attitudes.
00:17:58.760 You know, people that know who they are.
00:18:00.700 It's a completely different vibe than insecure people that are built on a false persona, you
00:18:07.140 know?
00:18:07.360 So I thought she was amazing.
00:18:09.100 She's been calling this out for years and years and years, body positivity and, you know,
00:18:14.900 and same, like, I think Jane Lynch is the same too.
00:18:18.040 She's very much about, you know, being, being natural, you know, again, there's a difference,
00:18:25.120 the women that know who they are. 1.00
00:18:27.180 And I think also something I spoke about on my channel as well is that when you see these
00:18:32.140 people acting on screen, if they, they have all this stuff done, like Nicole Kidman, I
00:18:39.360 can't focus on anything else, but just her face looking so fake.
00:18:44.760 And it's like, I don't believe her characters.
00:18:47.120 Yeah, you feel like you're being tricked or, you know, sold a false thing.
00:18:50.580 It's distracting, you know?
00:18:52.160 And when, and I think when you see somebody that has like normal expression line, like you
00:18:57.960 can go, wow, she's a great actress, you know? 0.98
00:19:00.680 Like there's a correlation between women that aren't, you know, faking their age or their 0.81
00:19:09.340 whatever, you know, by just showing up with what they look like.
00:19:14.460 Yeah.
00:19:15.260 I think when you look fake, I don't believe the character basically, or she could, she
00:19:20.960 could play someone like upper class, someone somewhere that looks like that, but she can't
00:19:25.780 play someone like a working class woman anymore looking like that because no one looks like 1.00
00:19:31.380 that when they're like a working class or like, you know, not super rich Hollywood star.
00:19:38.180 So yeah.
00:19:39.820 Yeah.
00:19:40.200 Were you the one who sent me or did I send you the Ashley Judd thing?
00:19:44.560 Did you send that to me?
00:19:45.080 I think I sent it to you, which that was amazing.
00:19:47.780 We loved that.
00:19:48.440 That was great.
00:19:50.260 So Ashley Judd.
00:19:51.440 I know, like Ashley getting your hair wet.
00:19:53.680 Yes.
00:19:54.720 Hi, I'm Ashley and I am a member of the We Don't Care Club.
00:20:00.560 Oh, I probably have cellulite.
00:20:02.420 I don't care.
00:20:03.440 And I got hungry pub and I don't care.
00:20:05.820 And when I'm in my swimsuit, sometimes I get a little chaping, like right down there.
00:20:10.620 So I put on cornstarch.
00:20:12.320 She's a member of the We Don't Care Club.
00:20:13.600 So I feel like I do care.
00:20:16.680 I mean, so do you.
00:20:17.980 We do care.
00:20:19.620 And there are things to do to make you feel great about yourself without destroying your
00:20:25.920 face.
00:20:26.780 Makeup, you know?
00:20:27.480 Exactly.
00:20:28.440 Makes you look a lot younger.
00:20:30.720 Yes.
00:20:31.580 So can you give us some like tricks?
00:20:34.160 Because I've been, I've been watching some like Instagram videos about how, you know,
00:20:38.980 you should put makeup on differently when you're, you know, your face is aging and you
00:20:44.820 should think differently when you paint, when you put makeup on.
00:20:48.200 Do you have like three go-to tricks that works?
00:20:52.360 I'll grab one thing.
00:20:53.640 I will tell you, like, again, I told you, I started this when I was 19 and my clients were
00:20:58.980 always like 40 and up.
00:21:00.300 I was in an area with like a lot of country clubs and so my challenge always was getting
00:21:06.700 their skin to look as good as you can because the problem is the makeup makes everything 1.00
00:21:11.700 look worse.
00:21:12.420 And like I always say, there's just way too many ways to get it wrong out there.
00:21:17.020 If I randomly go and I did an infomercial once where I went to Target and just randomly
00:21:22.080 bought like four concealers and you can't test them out first.
00:21:25.600 And like, it was harrowing how bad it made you look because, you know, if it's too light,
00:21:32.680 if it's too chalky, like it can age you by 10 years.
00:21:36.500 I'm not joking.
00:21:37.540 And so when I do my little five minute makeup touch up, and I mean, it is five minutes.
00:21:42.520 Every woman freaks out because I make them look younger. 1.00
00:21:45.820 And it's, you know, with a couple things, I'll tell you super quickly, my lift and snap
00:21:49.640 serum, this just photoshops all the lines and it's all natural, totally hypoallergenic and
00:21:54.860 all of that.
00:21:55.360 But it has an ingredient, argilline, that instantly firms and tightens.
00:22:00.560 And then over the years, it does, over the years, over the months, it does a lot of other
00:22:04.880 things like it helps brown spots, fine lines.
00:22:07.740 It's just having the right stuff underneath, you know, the right moisturizer.
00:22:11.640 Like I have a little trio that comes with this in my Unpack Your Bags eye gel.
00:22:16.620 My moisturizer is the same ingredient deck as $385 department store brand.
00:22:23.260 I won't say which, but mine is $48, you know, where I do the whole, I'm going to do specials
00:22:28.100 for Flossom regardless.
00:22:30.380 But, you know, I do $160 for that set.
00:22:34.840 But again, you put it on and every woman buys it. 0.73
00:22:37.760 I always put it aside before I even do their makeup because I know they're going to want
00:22:40.880 it because instantly everything is plumped up.
00:22:44.140 And then you could do very little makeup.
00:22:46.020 You can just do a light tinted primer.
00:22:48.060 People don't want a lot of foundation and stuff.
00:22:50.780 A couple shimmer sticks, you know, and I've talked before about my beauty ammo kit when
00:22:56.480 I was on with you the first time.
00:22:58.220 That's what I got called to go on for Brad Pitt and all those people.
00:23:02.040 But it's just a little plumping priming for under the eyes or above the lip. 0.91
00:23:06.900 It works great too.
00:23:07.820 It's a leave-on collagen mask, a line putty, which is like a spackle.
00:23:12.140 And then my concealer, which is color adjusting.
00:23:14.860 But it's very hydrating.
00:23:16.020 And even if you just did my concealer alone, I have a special that I just did for my news
00:23:20.960 anchor friend who was on.
00:23:22.980 This is like the Get Camera Ready special, which is the Lift and Snap Serum with the concealer
00:23:28.540 because she swears by both.
00:23:30.440 Just the right formulas.
00:23:31.820 And I know it sounds like a commercial, you know, but it's just so important because, again,
00:23:37.240 try going into Sephora or wherever and starting to put stuff on.
00:23:42.520 I know, it's so overwhelming.
00:23:43.360 And I'll say the littlest variation in a color can be the difference between amazing and disaster.
00:23:49.840 So it's really getting into that, you know, great zone of what you need.
00:23:55.760 And I just know that because I've worked on so many people.
00:23:58.840 And I get the feedback over and over and over.
00:24:01.300 You know, I don't do harsh makeup.
00:24:03.720 Like I did an event once at Henry Vendel in New York and the New York women, they all wear 1.00
00:24:09.160 this dark brown lipstick and they have all these lip lines and they're angry.
00:24:13.820 And it's just like, I'm just like, oh, soften it up.
00:24:18.880 Yeah.
00:24:19.440 Try smiling.
00:24:20.280 I think that's definitely one thing that I feel as well.
00:24:23.540 When you're the older we get, the less, you know, the less makeup I want to put on.
00:24:28.620 So it feels like, especially in the eyes and the lips, it just feels like so heavy and it
00:24:35.780 ages us like you're saying.
00:24:37.540 Yeah.
00:24:38.060 Well, there's so many formulas out there too, that, you know, there, there's a lot of room.
00:24:43.740 If you've had two or three bad experiences, you're going to be like, I just hate foundation,
00:24:48.180 but there may be one that you would really like.
00:24:51.060 So again, it's just, but it's, it's trial and error, you know?
00:24:54.700 So it depends.
00:24:56.120 Most women give up. 1.00
00:24:57.180 And I've just found most women that I work on, they either have one thing that they've 1.00
00:25:02.600 done for 30 years, you know, where it's the same or they don't do anything.
00:25:08.520 They do very little because they're like, they, they don't know how they do feel like
00:25:14.180 it makes it look worse because they haven't found that little formula that tweaks everything
00:25:19.160 and that's easy.
00:25:19.920 So, and I think the way this, you know, the skin, uh, the skin looks, uh, even, you know,
00:25:28.640 having little lines, I don't think that ages people, but when the skin gets saggy, of course
00:25:35.620 that doesn't feel great, but if your skin, if your skin is even and nice, you know, that
00:25:41.860 looks healthy, that is, that's always my goal.
00:25:46.280 I've done Botox.
00:25:47.820 I usually did it between my eyebrows before a lot.
00:25:52.200 And now I realized I like it so much more when my eyebrows can do like all these weird
00:25:56.480 things.
00:25:56.880 You do this one eyebrow thing, which is great.
00:26:00.100 It's funny when one eyebrow goes up.
00:26:01.840 Because I, I, you know, I started doing that.
00:26:04.180 It was so funny.
00:26:05.280 This happened in my teenage years because me and my girlfriends, we were talking about
00:26:08.880 how this was like, so like charming to be able to do that with one eyebrow.
00:26:12.840 I can only do it on this one.
00:26:14.140 And then I practiced, I practiced it so much.
00:26:17.940 I was like, I want to do that with one eyebrow and then it just stuck.
00:26:21.600 And then now I do it without even thinking about it.
00:26:24.000 And then I'm trying.
00:26:24.780 It's hilarious.
00:26:26.440 It's funny.
00:26:27.060 I noticed and I love it.
00:26:28.740 Yeah.
00:26:30.760 I love the one eyebrow.
00:26:32.780 It's true.
00:26:33.860 I actually, I remember when I did, I did Botox in my forehead and it kind of pushed my eyebrows
00:26:40.480 down.
00:26:40.900 It drops.
00:26:41.260 Yeah.
00:26:41.540 You got to be so careful.
00:26:43.120 And that was not a good look.
00:26:43.920 If I do it, I might stay way up high and then people get that Spock eye.
00:26:48.080 Yeah.
00:26:48.300 I do use a little at home galvanic device.
00:26:51.340 And to be honest, like I did use it last night, I think when I know I'm going to do
00:26:54.920 something on camera and it does like my brows are lifted.
00:26:58.160 I'm looking right now.
00:26:58.920 And it's from that.
00:26:59.920 Like I not.
00:27:00.900 What is that after?
00:27:03.440 It's enough for another day.
00:27:05.280 You can't even buy it anymore.
00:27:06.880 I'm trying to find my own source for it so I can sell them.
00:27:10.040 It's just a little handheld device and it uses galvanic current.
00:27:13.600 And I found out about it on the set of Dancing with the Stars.
00:27:16.580 And I sold so many of them.
00:27:18.640 We used to have TV segments where they would call in live from the set.
00:27:22.140 It was a new skin thing. 0.97
00:27:23.680 And so I hated that it was multi-level.
00:27:25.680 But then on top of it, they'd since discontinued it.
00:27:29.040 But it's one of my beauty secrets that I use religiously twice a week.
00:27:33.660 It works.
00:27:34.500 It irons out, wrinkles, it lifts and holds.
00:27:37.360 So I need to find one so everyone can have access.
00:27:40.620 Yes.
00:27:41.140 We should all have access to that for sure.
00:27:43.880 It's true.
00:27:45.200 All right.
00:27:45.720 So do you think, because I was thinking when you sent me that email with how actresses are, 0.97
00:27:53.560 it's going to, like younger actresses having to play older characters. 1.00
00:27:59.660 And I remember a few years ago, there was so much talk about older women or older women,
00:28:04.880 like women, middle-aged women, not being able to get parts in Hollywood. 0.92
00:28:08.760 But I do think that it has changed a little bit, because especially for TV, maybe.
00:28:14.620 In movies, it usually just goes to Nicole Kidman.
00:28:17.860 But on TV, I feel like there's more diversity amongst age.
00:28:25.860 Do you feel that it has changed a little bit from, you know, from you?
00:28:30.780 To be honest, I don't watch TV.
00:28:32.720 I've not had TV in like four or five years.
00:28:35.120 And I'm so picky with movies.
00:28:37.160 Like there's so few I'll even go see.
00:28:40.020 But I just think that there's probably, it's true.
00:28:43.380 It's, I'm a highly sensitive person.
00:28:45.680 And like when I start seeing violence, I can't even watch it.
00:28:48.860 I have to get up and leave.
00:28:49.780 And I feel like most movies, even if there is a good plot or whatever, like the last 15 minutes,
00:28:55.280 everything has to get so next level, ridiculous.
00:28:58.460 I was like, could you not have tied this up a little bit easier than, you know,
00:29:02.840 let's kill seven more people and blow up 10 more cars.
00:29:06.000 It's just not my thing.
00:29:07.500 Yeah.
00:29:08.060 But I feel like too, maybe with Netflix and all the other, you know, there's so much content now,
00:29:13.440 you know, ways to bring your content to the screen and that there are more opportunities,
00:29:19.920 you know, for people that we're not the only ones, obviously, that feel this way.
00:29:25.460 And so, yeah, I feel like maybe there is more diversity, but it's just, oh,
00:29:30.020 one last thing I wanted to mention too.
00:29:31.760 Did you see the article on how Vogue is using the AI models?
00:29:36.400 Yes.
00:29:36.820 I was going to talk about that.
00:29:38.320 My gosh.
00:29:39.800 I mean, doesn't it just cheapen it all?
00:29:41.960 You feel like they're faking it?
00:29:43.320 Like, where did this, is this like from an airplane in Japan?
00:29:46.740 Like, what even is this?
00:29:48.120 Like, I was so shocked.
00:29:49.960 And I was pretty shocked when I saw the interview with the two women who actually created the campaign.
00:29:55.640 They were like 24 years old.
00:29:57.840 Yeah.
00:29:58.260 And it was a campaign for, who was it?
00:30:01.380 Was it Guess?
00:30:03.240 It was Guess.
00:30:04.600 Yeah.
00:30:05.020 Yeah.
00:30:06.100 And they said it saved them money.
00:30:08.360 And even though it costs like six figures, it saved them money to do it.
00:30:12.960 It cost that much?
00:30:14.880 Yes.
00:30:15.240 Wow.
00:30:16.400 They said, if you have any idea how hard it was to create this girl and blah, blah, blah.
00:30:21.380 It's like, wow.
00:30:22.200 And it was interesting.
00:30:23.860 Yeah.
00:30:24.220 And then they said, because some other models were interviewed and one of them was a plus size. 0.83
00:30:29.600 And she was like, well, where's the diversity?
00:30:32.560 And they were like, AI isn't that advanced yet.
00:30:35.260 So we can't make anyone look bigger.
00:30:39.740 Or even, you know, have any other ethnicity.
00:30:45.280 Yeah.
00:30:45.860 So they wouldn't like make any black models or anything like that either.
00:30:51.300 Because, you know, I was like, wow, this is terrible.
00:30:54.720 And the thing is, as soon as you know it's AI, you're just going to look at it like worthless.
00:31:01.840 Yeah.
00:31:02.780 It's like somebody drew it.
00:31:04.940 And another episode, we should talk about my daughter being a model.
00:31:09.220 Like the experiences I watched her go through as a teenager, you know, all over Europe.
00:31:13.740 Like we'd go into these agencies.
00:31:15.280 They come out with the measuring tape.
00:31:17.620 She was so thin.
00:31:19.080 They literally would have had to like surgically cut off her rear end to take off another inch in the hips. 1.00
00:31:26.560 And it's like when you really see the inner workings of that.
00:31:30.680 And they want pubescent girls. 1.00
00:31:33.000 Like this is fashion, you know.
00:31:35.840 Like you get to be over 20 or 18.
00:31:38.320 You know, you start to fill out where you're not pre-pubescent.
00:31:42.260 And now that's too big, you know.
00:31:45.160 So it's all about starving yourself.
00:31:47.920 It really is sick.
00:31:49.140 And I'm proud of my daughter because she refused to do it.
00:31:51.640 And she was lucky.
00:31:52.620 She could eat whatever she wanted.
00:31:54.360 And her natural frame is very, very thin.
00:31:58.100 But, oh my, if you would have seen how thin she was. 0.98
00:32:01.860 And then for that not to be enough.
00:32:03.560 And then when you do go to some of the castings and you see these girls come in. 1.00
00:32:07.880 When you see a cattle call, like they are giraffes. 1.00
00:32:11.980 They are 6'1", they're 14, and they are 98 pounds.
00:32:18.200 And you're just like, oh my God.
00:32:20.400 And like this is like the standard of what they're using.
00:32:24.280 And I think maybe it's changing.
00:32:26.040 I don't know.
00:32:26.780 Then they kind of like change so much that like if you're blonde and blue-eyed, like they don't want you.
00:32:33.380 They only wanted my daughter.
00:32:34.400 She like dyed her hair blue or did some crazy, you know, she would be like the token, you know, crazy looking. 1.00
00:32:42.540 So, I don't know.
00:32:44.560 It's a lot.
00:32:45.860 Wow.
00:32:46.400 I think you need like, yeah, going through that or just like working as a model, especially in that world when it's like high fashion.
00:32:54.900 And they expect things like that.
00:32:56.300 I mean, oh my gosh.
00:32:57.540 I don't.
00:32:57.940 Yeah.
00:32:58.140 Yeah, I hope when you're still doing it or is she?
00:33:01.360 No, she hates it.
00:33:02.580 And I mean, I'm sure she's not done forever, but she's always hated it.
00:33:06.840 And I'm like, suck it up for the money, you know, during certain jobs.
00:33:11.900 But yeah, she, what last story I'll tell, she once said to me, oh, I have, I booked this job in Texas and it's for some makeup brand, Mary Kay. 0.68
00:33:21.700 Like she'd never heard of Mary Kay cosmetics.
00:33:24.380 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:33:26.000 But I flew with her because it was like during COVID and she was so afraid and it was just, yeah, it was weird times, you know, her last kind of four years in the industry, it was a lot of COVID stuff.
00:33:37.940 And they put her in dangerous situations, you know, go to this apartment, downtown LA, you know, like work through all the scary people on the streets and go into like a photographer man's apartment and change your clothes in his bathroom.
00:33:55.120 And she would just be panicking, you know, texting me, I feel, I don't feel safe.
00:33:59.660 And I'm like, you don't ever have to do anything, you know, that you don't feel safe, but the agencies should be more protective.
00:34:06.140 And not that they all are like that, but they certainly weren't doing as much as I thought they should do to make sure she's safe.
00:34:14.520 Yeah.
00:34:14.760 That's scary.
00:34:16.620 It really is.
00:34:17.380 But I think now with this AI back to the AI models, first of all, I mean, the big threat also is that other people are going to be out of work, of course.
00:34:29.240 Again, right?
00:34:30.540 Yeah.
00:34:31.080 And I think for you also as a makeup artist, you know, when you can just put makeup on afterwards, no one needs to have makeup on in real time.
00:34:38.720 You can just add it.
00:34:39.920 Like you just do a photo shoot if you even do that, and then you just add the makeup.
00:34:44.080 Totally.
00:34:44.820 Like that.
00:34:45.700 So.
00:34:45.960 Yeah.
00:34:46.960 Well, and that hasn't been my thing in a long, long time.
00:34:49.920 You know, I'm more about my product line and I do still work on women. 1.00
00:34:54.260 I do a lot of events and now it's really shifting into my podcasts and my book and all of my other stuff.
00:34:59.400 I'm even doing like coaching for women to connect with what their real mission is.
00:35:05.060 I have like a total gift for discernment so I can pick it up and I like to help women just get aligned with the thing that God's put inside of them to do. 0.98
00:35:15.220 Like, you know what yours is.
00:35:17.220 Everyone is like programmed to have something and people are just lost and they need guidance.
00:35:23.540 So I'm going to do my part.
00:35:25.580 Yeah.
00:35:25.840 That's amazing.
00:35:26.520 So tell everyone where they can find your podcast.
00:35:30.200 And I am going to be on your podcast because we are shooting the second part after this.
00:35:35.800 So everyone can see that.
00:35:38.460 So where can we find your podcast?
00:35:40.400 I will leave a link below as well.
00:35:41.960 What's going to be your podcast?
00:35:42.840 Yeah, my podcast is everywhere.
00:35:44.200 You know, Spotify, Apple, all of the platforms.
00:35:48.540 And it's called Beauty Revival.
00:35:50.040 So I'm super excited about that.
00:35:52.280 My website is mbyork.com and my podcast is right at the top of my website too, as well as my coaching stuff that I do and the products that we talked about today, which we are giving money to you of anything that's sold for all of your legal stuff.
00:36:09.520 Like, I can't even imagine what you've had to spend.
00:36:12.460 And that's an absolute.
00:36:14.600 I already told you that.
00:36:15.700 So if anyone does buy any of my products, we are supporting Shasti with what she's been through.
00:36:22.180 We're blessing her with just money to go get a spa day. 1.00
00:36:26.700 You are the sweetest.
00:36:29.040 No, it's true.
00:36:30.020 Thank you.
00:36:30.760 You need to take care of you.
00:36:32.240 People like you are very rare to find.
00:36:36.160 I have to say that too, because, you know, we've been like, when did we speak last time?
00:36:40.840 Was it in 2024?
00:36:42.880 It was this year.
00:36:44.340 Yeah, but it was February.
00:36:46.040 It's a long time ago.
00:36:47.480 And I see you.
00:36:48.520 I mean, we email each other and you pop up in my comment section sometimes on YouTube as well.
00:36:53.620 And it really warms my heart.
00:36:55.180 You're just so amazing.
00:36:56.520 But you always have such interesting perspectives and you always, yeah, you see, you tie it together so well.
00:37:04.040 You're really smart.
00:37:05.000 I was like, you could have been like a doctor, whatever.
00:37:08.640 Like, you are really smart.
00:37:10.460 You are.
00:37:10.740 Thank you.
00:37:10.980 Because you could be a great attorney.
00:37:13.280 A great attorney.
00:37:14.720 Oh, my gosh.
00:37:15.660 Because you just keep plowing forward.
00:37:17.480 You're like, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.
00:37:19.780 You just keep calling out all the lies.
00:37:22.080 So that's a gift.
00:37:23.480 It is.
00:37:24.000 Thank you.
00:37:24.540 Thank you so much, Mary Beth.
00:37:26.580 Well, we all love you.
00:37:27.900 I'm speaking for all of your followers.
00:37:29.960 I always see it in the comments.
00:37:31.160 And all the ones that I met through you, they're amazing people.
00:37:34.600 You have the nicest.
00:37:36.080 Oh, my gosh.
00:37:36.940 I do have the nicest people on my channels.
00:37:39.480 I know.
00:37:40.300 I know.
00:37:41.140 Amazing.
00:37:41.400 And they love you.
00:37:42.480 Whenever I get on the phone with one about an order or something, we're always like, isn't Chasti amazing?
00:37:47.000 And, yeah, we're in love with you.
00:37:48.820 I do feel like this community is just so uplifting and so amazing.
00:37:55.400 And, you know, there's so much support from other women.
00:37:58.440 It really gives me so much, you know, strength and, you know, drive.
00:38:02.460 Because it's also rare.
00:38:04.080 Like, people are really starving for that in society.
00:38:07.640 So you're filling the void.
00:38:09.240 Yeah.
00:38:10.120 So thank you.
00:38:11.020 Thank you so much, Marybeth.
00:38:12.820 I'll see you over at your podcast.
00:38:15.220 Yes.
00:38:15.580 So I will leave a link to that.
00:38:18.600 And I will leave a link to your website, to your product.
00:38:21.300 So everyone that's interested in that can find out everything there.
00:38:26.020 And, yeah, let's roll.
00:38:28.300 Let's do it.
00:38:29.620 Thank you so much to Marybeth for doing this again.
00:38:32.840 I hope you learned something and got inspired by her.
00:38:36.240 And let me know in the comment section what you think if you're watching this on YouTube.
00:38:40.460 And if you haven't subscribed yet, please do.
00:38:43.340 And hit the notification bell so you don't miss an episode of Flossom Talk.
00:38:46.500 And I'll see you in my next one.
00:38:48.180 Bye.
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