Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 29, 2025


Ep 14 Blake loses over Perez Hilton and Megyn Kelly is not holding back !!


Episode Stats

Length

18 minutes

Words per Minute

160.6729

Word Count

3,050

Sentence Count

216

Misogynist Sentences

12


Summary

Paris Hilton wins in court and Megyn Kelly is in hot water for her comments about Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. Plus, I give my thoughts on Perez Hilton's victory and why the judge should send the case back to the New York court.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 where Blake Lively's lawyers deny that they actually subpoenaed Megyn Kelly.
00:00:12.020 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sashdae Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:17.600 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Today is usually my podcast day,
00:00:24.300 so I'm going to make this into a podcast, although I'm going to talk about all the
00:00:28.420 things that you hear me talk about most days, really every day. Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni's
00:00:34.600 legal feud because there's so much to talk about and I wanted to focus on that. And yesterday was
00:00:39.360 a little stressful because I had to bring Oscar to his dental cleaning and they pulled two teeth
00:00:45.940 out of his mouth and he's feeling a little bit like low energy today and he's a little bit traumatized
00:00:53.040 still, so I had to take extra good care of him. Anyways, there's so many updates here. First of
00:00:58.680 all, Paris Hilton was in court yesterday and it looked like it was going to be a terrible loss,
00:01:04.920 but then it was an amazing win, so I'm talking about that. And also Megyn Kelly was dragged into
00:01:11.460 this. We didn't know that she was subpoenaed and she is blasting Blake Lively. You won't believe
00:01:18.500 the things that she said about her. And also she showed my clip on her show and explained why she
00:01:26.260 decided to really dislike Blake Lively on her own. I also have a greeting from someone that was in
00:01:33.480 the courtroom that was following Perez Hilton's day when he was facing Blake Lively's three lawyers,
00:01:41.820 so stay tuned for that. First, I wanted to make something clear that I spoke about yesterday because
00:01:46.620 I did say that Blake Lively lied in her deposition and some people said, no, she wasn't really lying.
00:01:54.340 This could be like, you know, bending the truth kind of thing. So basically what I showed yesterday
00:02:00.860 was a little snippet from Blake Lively's deposition that Jed Wallace used against her, where his lawyer
00:02:09.620 asked her if she was familiar with the book, it ends with us, prior to accepting the role.
00:02:16.740 And she said, yes. And then I showed a video from Vogue where she said she'd never heard about the
00:02:22.140 book and she must be living under a rock. I actually didn't know the book, which I feel like I live under
00:02:27.480 a rock for not knowing that. I find these two statements to be very contradicting, but some people
00:02:33.380 are saying that her lawyers could argue that she hadn't heard of it when the project was first
00:02:38.760 brought to her. But then she had heard about it by the time she formally agreed to take on the role.
00:02:47.360 I do see this point and I do know how lawyers loves to twist things around. But the point here is
00:02:53.540 that Justin Baldoni's attorneys can argue that there are inconsistencies here, no matter what she says,
00:03:00.620 because the way they're going to put it is that she said under oath that she heard about the book,
00:03:05.460 but then she said in an interview that they can show that I've never heard about it. I must have
00:03:10.680 been living under a rock. So they could argue that she's saying one thing to the audience in interviews
00:03:16.760 and one thing under oath in court. Even if the lawyers try to spin the timeline here, it makes it look
00:03:24.880 messy and she would have to explain this. And juries don't really like messy explanations that
00:03:32.000 in itself damages her credibility. And Justin Baldoni's team can argue that she's not trustworthy
00:03:37.360 and that she's trying to bend the truth. They can use this. And that's the reason why they put it in
00:03:42.740 there because they could pick this up later and say, Hey, if she's willing to twist things around,
00:03:48.280 like she's doing in this tiny little segment here, can you imagine how she can twist the truth
00:03:54.800 in her lawsuits? She's willing to bend the truth for the smaller things. What is she willing to do
00:04:01.000 with the bigger things? So even though some people were pointing this out, which I'm really grateful
00:04:05.820 for, because I think we need to argue both sides here. I do think that this was a huge slip up and
00:04:12.940 is going to be used against her. Otherwise they would have never put it in there. And otherwise
00:04:17.720 the judge would never have allowed them to unseal that part of her deposition. All right. So let's
00:04:23.560 talk about Perez Hilton, who was in court yesterday in Nevada, in Las Vegas, uh, for a hearing.
00:04:30.460 It's the big day. I just showed up at the federal courthouse in my florals, surprised to see.
00:04:37.360 Peapod, I'm peapod. He was really nervous. He was being very honest and very vulnerable about this
00:04:42.340 position that he was put in by Blake Lively because he was representing himself, which makes
00:04:48.420 it obviously a lot more challenging when she's sending three attorneys to convince the judge in
00:04:54.800 the matter that he should actually send this case to the judge in New York. Judge Lyman, who we know
00:05:01.500 Perez Hilton is not a fan of. So Perez was super nervous. He attended wearing a floral jacket and some
00:05:10.000 people were outside waiting for him. One of them was Courtney Pruce, who sent me this beautiful photo
00:05:17.340 from the out, from outside of the courtroom. She later went inside the courtroom and she has a
00:05:22.500 little report for us. She said she was sitting on Perez's side in first row. And she said that
00:05:27.760 his side was packed with people. A lot of law students were there. And she said the judge was
00:05:33.080 very charismatic. But did he rule in Perez's favor? Hey, Shirstie, my name is Courtney. I was there
00:05:39.740 outside holding signs and in the courtroom today. And just wanted to say that Perez did a wonderful job.
00:05:47.680 You know, a lot of people were asking him how he was feeling. And he would say, you know, I'm
00:05:53.220 cautiously optimistic. The judge had swagger. He was he was a very charismatic man. But then,
00:06:00.520 you know, he did say that he was gonna have Lyman rule on the jurisdictional issue, which was pretty
00:06:09.440 upsetting. So I honestly thought Perez lost it. I didn't think Lyman would do the right thing. But
00:06:15.780 Lyman did. So overall, Perez did a great job. Lakeside seemed a little flustered because of the
00:06:25.360 pressure that the judge was putting on her counsel to prove why the jurisdictional rules,
00:06:34.280 the shield law doesn't apply and why it should be transferred. And they tried to cite California law.
00:06:40.620 They tried to cite that Perez had a California address. So Nevada law didn't apply, which Perez is
00:06:47.960 a resident of Nevada. So thank you, Courtney, for sending me this video. It was 2am in Las Vegas
00:06:54.020 when I messaged with her and asked her if she could send me a video. So I really appreciate that you
00:07:00.460 did that in the middle of the night, basically. And I think it means so much to Perez that you
00:07:05.560 actually did that and you were there to support him. So if you follow this case closely, you know
00:07:10.880 that Perez is trying to fight Blake Lively in his own home state because the rules to protect
00:07:18.160 journalists are much stricter in Nevada than they are in New York. And Blake Lively's team have been
00:07:23.560 arguing that he's not a real journalist. And they were trying to argue this yesterday. But then the
00:07:29.100 judge said, you know, this is not what we're here for today. The only reason they were there were to
00:07:32.900 decide if the judge should give the judge in New York Perez Hilton's case. He decided to do that.
00:07:40.880 And Perez was devastated. He was like, I lost this. There's no way anything's going to come from
00:07:47.220 this now. It's up to Judge Lyman. He doesn't like me. But then guess what happened? Judge Lyman did the
00:07:54.920 most unexpected thing. I think no one was expecting this. He wrote a seven page letter to support Perez
00:08:02.660 Hilton and say that he does not have jurisdiction over him. And Perez is representing himself. So he's going
00:08:09.840 to give him also the benefit of the doubts. So he's sending the case back to Nevada, which is a huge
00:08:17.060 win for Perez. So congratulations to Perez for doing this on his own. It's not over yet. Obviously,
00:08:25.580 he has to come back on Tuesday and actually fight the subpoena in itself. But now with the rules in
00:08:32.300 Nevada, hopefully it will be settled right there and then. And Blake Lively will not have access to
00:08:39.180 any sources or anything that has to do with Perez Hilton that she cannot access from the other people
00:08:45.720 she subpoenaed. Like Perez was saying yesterday, you know, she already could get this information if she
00:08:52.100 thinks there's any value in it from the people she's subpoenaing on Justin Baldoni's side. If they had any
00:08:59.360 communication with him, they should leave that over. They're part of the lawsuit. He's not.
00:09:04.900 Oh my God. Judge Lyman just ruled and he proved me wrong.
00:09:16.660 Also, I received so many emails from people yesterday that Megyn Kelly has been subpoenaed as well.
00:09:22.780 I had no idea about it. And Megyn Kelly is furious. She's not being shy about how she really feels
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00:11:25.880 I sent you. All right, let's go back to Megyn Kelly's subpoena and all her adjectives that she
00:11:31.960 used to describe Blake Lively. Here we go.
00:11:35.240 I am a member of the press. You are a sad, pathetic, untalented, narcissistic bully.
00:11:41.000 Blake Lively acts like an unlikable bully brat who cannot believe any of that negative press could
00:11:46.480 possibly be genuine. She's a liar. Blake Lively is a narcissistic liar, bully brat.
00:11:55.080 Also, Megyn Kelly used my interview to explain why she started disliking Blake Lively. I know
00:12:02.260 Paris Hilton also did that. Clips like this one, where she bullied a reporter with no power
00:12:08.460 after the journalist had the nerve to compliment Blake's very obviously pregnant state.
00:12:14.600 First of all, congrats on your little bump. Congrats on your little bump.
00:12:22.100 So absurd. So that the reporter wasn't pregnant. She was belittled and she did feel insulted and she
00:12:27.580 spoke out about it after the fact. But Blake Lively couldn't be asked about the very obvious baby bump.
00:12:32.780 It's called being a reporter. She also interviewed some lawyers about this. And one of them was talking
00:12:37.820 about how he thinks that Blake Lively's lawyers are the one just dragging this out now because they
00:12:44.080 know that they can make so much money on this case. And I think he's right on the dollar with that.
00:12:49.040 This entire litigation train is probably being driven almost exclusively by the attorneys who
00:12:57.120 have a financial interest in the longevity and complexity of this litigation. It's almost like
00:13:04.640 a class action case where the only people that benefit are the lawyers.
00:13:08.720 But at the same time, Blake Lively is not asking them to stop because she still thinks that it's
00:13:14.400 impossible to dislike her without getting paid to do so. The media was picking this up everywhere.
00:13:19.840 And New York posted a story on it where Blake Lively's lawyers deny that they actually subpoenaed
00:13:28.000 Megyn Kelly. This is the kind of thing that they keep doing. The headline here, by the way, says
00:13:34.480 Megyn Kelly rips narcissistic bully Blake Lively for subpoenaing her in Justin Baldoni lawsuits.
00:13:40.400 gave her absolutely nothing. Yeah, to make sure that everyone understand that Megyn Kelly,
00:13:46.640 they quashed her subpoena and she gave them absolutely nothing. A spokesperson for Lively
00:13:53.200 told the New York Post that at no point in this litigation has Ms. Lively served a subpoena
00:13:59.200 on Megyn Kelly. Ms. Lively is continuing to pursue discovery in order to prove her case that Justin
00:14:05.600 Baldoni, Jed Wallace, Melissa Nathan and the Wayfair parties retaliated against her for speaking up
00:14:11.840 against the harassment she and others experienced on the set as alleged in her complaint. And then they
00:14:18.800 continue, seeking evidence through discovery is a normal part of the litigation process and is this
00:14:25.040 in addition to overwhelming amount of evidence already compiled in the form of Melissa Nathan's own
00:14:31.600 text messages. The recently exposed KDK's email describing Jed Wallace's services as well as the
00:14:39.600 invoices showing he was paid for those services and Baldoni's own request on what he wants his team to do.
00:14:47.200 These are the text messages that I showed you guys here on my channel and these are the text messages that
00:14:52.000 showed very clearly that this group of people were working to protect Justin Baldoni's reputation after
00:14:59.920 Blake Lively tried to tarnish it. They were only doing things to help push the narrative that Justin
00:15:06.000 Baldoni is innocent and he's a good guy. There were no text messages whatsoever, any evidence of anyone
00:15:13.440 saying that they should push any negative content about Blake Lively. There's none. So basically by denying
00:15:20.000 that they subpoenaed Megyn Kelly doesn't mean anything because they did subpoena her company and they asked
00:15:25.520 specifically for Megyn Kelly's conversations and communications and even her handouts, I think documents when
00:15:32.000 she invites guests on her show, they wanted to see that. They wanted to see reports from, you know, when they were
00:15:37.680 talking about how her show went afterwards. I mean, it was so ridiculous. It was so overbroad. It was so insane.
00:15:44.000 So I guess they could say that they didn't subpoena her directly at her home, at her home address,
00:15:49.360 but they did subpoena her company and her specifically. So this is just, again, an example of
00:15:54.480 how they bend the truth. Deadline did also do a story about this that really upset me, by the way.
00:16:02.720 So they're saying, Blake Lively insists no subpoena ever sent to Megyn Kelly in Justin Baldoni battle.
00:16:08.160 Another entitled nasty Hollywood snob, ex-Fox News host declares, out of it ends with a star.
00:16:16.560 So they're also angling this on the fact that Blake Lively denies sending a subpoena to Megyn Kelly.
00:16:22.400 And the reporter here, which is a man, which I'm going to make a point about, says,
00:16:26.480 the ongoing she said, he said. It's not he said, she said, he said. It's she said,
00:16:32.800 he brought all the receipts. Okay. It's more like she lied. He told the truth. And that's why we
00:16:39.600 believe him because we have all the evidence that says that Blake Lively is not telling the truth.
00:16:46.160 So the reporter here says that, however, with what certainly seems like some very distinct
00:16:51.840 blonde hair splitting, Lively sides insist Kelly dot protests too much. At no point in the litigation
00:16:59.760 has Ms. Lively served a subpoena on Megyn Kelly. So to describe this feud between the two of them,
00:17:05.520 he uses the word distinct blonde hair splitting, playing on the word hair splitting, but pointing
00:17:12.320 out that these two women are blonde. I actually find that pretty sexist. It plays on that old,
00:17:17.920 dumb, blonde stereotype that traditionally in history has been used to belittle women. He's
00:17:25.760 reducing women to their looks, to their hair color. Would he ever say brown hair splitting or
00:17:32.640 bold hair splitting? Would he ever use this about any men? I'm just playing the devil's advocate here
00:17:37.920 because what he's doing here is saying that, you know, making kind of a joke about this, which is,
00:17:42.880 it's not a joke to be subpoenaed. I've been subpoenaed. It's really awful.
00:17:47.600 And I don't think it's something that you should make jokes about being a reporter himself. He should
00:17:51.600 know better. Yeah. I don't like the way he's undermining the seriousness of the situation
00:17:55.600 for the people that were dragged into this being innocent, being non parties. Anyways,
00:18:01.120 that's it from you guys on a Friday. I hope you enjoyed this episode and I promise you
00:18:07.040 more amazing interviews are to come on my podcast on Fridays. So please stay tuned. Oscar is sending
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00:18:24.960 wish everyone a happy weekend. Right, Oscar?
00:18:28.960 Yeah, we've lost some talk.
00:18:36.960 We'll see you next time.
00:18:40.960 Bye.
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