Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Ep 6： Hollywood EXPOSED： Secrets They Don’t Want You to Know !!？

00:00:00.000 So the publicists always sort of say that in a threatening way, like, you'd better not

00:00:05.040 ask them about their divorce or their children or whatever.

00:00:09.640 And they came out and were like, do not wish him a happy birthday.

00:00:13.560 Do not acknowledge his birthday.

00:00:15.380 I'm thinking, are you kidding me?

00:00:22.000 I am welcome to Flossom Talk, the podcast.

00:00:25.160 As many of you already know, I'm an entertainment reporter and I usually talk a lot about Blake

00:00:29.460 Wively and Justin Baldoni's Legal Feud on my YouTube channel.

00:00:32.780 But here on my podcast, I do talk about other things as well.

00:00:36.220 And today I have a very special guest with me who's been on my channel twice before because

00:00:41.400 everyone loves him so much.

00:00:43.300 His name is Nelson Aspen.

00:00:45.420 He's from Australia.

00:00:47.080 He's super famous over there.

00:00:49.060 He's an award-winning journalist, a cabaret star and an author of several books.

00:00:54.300 We have met on so many press junkets.

00:00:57.980 And he's also interviewed so many celebrities and have so many stories.

00:01:02.520 He started doing this way before I did.

00:01:05.160 And we always love sharing experiences.

00:01:07.720 So in this episode, we'll give you guys a little bit of an insight of what goes on behind the

00:01:11.880 scenes of these press junkets.

00:01:13.320 Some celebrities that we had terrible experiences with and some that we quite like and some that

00:01:19.620 were surprising, some that were quite shocking.

00:01:23.220 And also how much this industry has changed.

00:01:27.680 Things used to be much more juicier than they are now.

00:01:31.780 And also, of course, I'm going to have to ask him about his experience with Blake Wively

00:01:35.360 and Ryan Reynolds and with Hugh Jackman because he knows Hugh Jackman pretty well.

00:01:40.320 So, yes, here is Nelson Aspen.

00:01:44.740 Nelson coming in from New York.

00:01:48.000 It's so good to see you again.

00:01:50.460 You look amazing.

00:01:51.940 How is the weather in New York?

00:01:53.320 Is it hot?

00:01:54.420 Oh, it's the heat of summer.

00:01:57.120 And I've got my iced coffee and I dress like an ice cream man for you.

00:02:03.600 And ready to celebrate summer.

00:02:06.040 I love summer.

00:02:06.760 You know, people talk about, oh, L.A. and the beautiful weather in Hollywood.

00:02:11.040 But, you know, the happiest moment was when I moved back to New York and I get to have

00:02:15.540 four distinct seasons.

00:02:18.240 And I love each of them in their own way.

00:02:21.140 I love the change of season.

00:02:23.380 So bring on the summer heat.

00:02:25.400 Yeah.

00:02:25.940 I miss that, actually, in L.A.

00:02:28.160 Although it does feel a little bit like there's four seasons there.

00:02:30.840 Now in Spain, as you might know, it's like super hot.

00:02:34.660 It's so hot here.

00:02:36.420 Luckily, not so hot here in Mallorca.

00:02:38.720 But anyways, we have to talk about because we just had like or I had some technical issues

00:02:43.220 here.

00:02:44.180 And we were just talking about it.

00:02:45.120 I'm so glad it was your fault, not mine.

00:02:47.400 Usually, I assume any technical problem is my fault.

00:02:50.520 But this time it was you.

00:02:52.340 It was definitely me.

00:02:54.000 And so now we're on Zoom instead of my fancy other app that I was going to use.

00:02:57.820 And then you were saying, have you had these experiences in press junkets before when you're

00:03:03.240 sitting there with the talent in front of you and it's so awkward and they're fixing a

00:03:08.020 lot of things?

00:03:08.480 And sometimes you could take up to like five, 10 minutes.

00:03:12.080 What do you do?

00:03:12.600 If it takes too long, they'll send you out of the room because it's just it's this strange

00:03:17.900 thing for folks out there who haven't experienced those junket situations, which is why I usually

00:03:24.100 like to go second or third in a rotation because the first person that goes in, they you know,

00:03:30.940 they're still fixing the lights and the sound.

00:03:33.340 There are bugs to work out.

00:03:35.120 And that's what happens.

00:03:36.420 There's there's some kind of delay or even worse.

00:03:39.100 They come back to you later and say, the sound was off.

00:03:42.600 We need you to redo it again.

00:03:44.140 And you've got to recreate that spontaneity and ask, you know, it's that's that's the worst.

00:03:50.680 But I kind of like I like small talk.

00:03:54.140 I enjoy small talk.

00:03:55.220 I sort of think I'm good at it.

00:03:57.340 So to go into a room and have that unexpected delay and some celebrities that I I'm not sure

00:04:04.300 I'll think of some, I guess, but some if they have to wait there, they won't even look at

00:04:10.700 you.

00:04:11.040 They won't even acknowledge you there because you're just the mere journalist.

00:04:13.960 While there are others, you know, like like a Ben Stiller or or most of them will make

00:04:20.760 we'll make small talk with you because you're stuck there in the same position.

00:04:24.220 So why not?

00:04:25.320 I mean, you're you're you're all doing the same thing, essentially.

00:04:28.920 So I have to ask you this because I know that, you know, Hugh Jackman pretty well.

00:04:34.340 And he has received so much backlash lately because of his divorce and also because of

00:04:41.980 his relationship with Ryan Reynolds.

00:04:44.280 So he's taking all this heat now.

00:04:47.100 And we've talked about Hugh Jackman before because he's one of was at least one of my favorites

00:04:52.040 to interview.

00:04:52.860 And I know you really like him.

00:04:54.740 Do you what do you what do you think about all the things happening?

00:04:57.860 You know, he's he's doing a residency in New York of his one man sort of cabaret musical

00:05:04.620 extravaganza at Radio City Music Hall.

00:05:07.960 And he's really kind of been off the radar.

00:05:10.960 And I think that's sort of a self-inflicted effort to keep busy because that that gives

00:05:17.520 him the excuse not to get involved in the drama with his ex-wife, the drama with his buddy

00:05:24.400 Ryan Reynolds.

00:05:25.520 You know, he's busy.

00:05:26.260 He's working.

00:05:26.740 He's doing his thing.

00:05:27.860 And he's been nobody's really had anything to do with him because he's been focused on

00:05:32.560 that.

00:05:33.080 And he'll turn up on on odd street corners, walking around with Sutton, spending a lot

00:05:38.920 of time on the west side of Manhattan.

00:05:41.060 But my sources tell me, even though it's been in the press that he's looking at properties

00:05:47.080 in Australia, specifically Byron Bay, to make a new home.

00:05:51.280 So once he gets divorced and they can get married, Sutton and he can get married, that they want

00:05:56.380 to have an Australian home to split their time.

00:05:58.960 But I'm hearing that he's planning to move to Los Angeles, that he and Sutton are looking

00:06:04.820 to move to Los Angeles.

00:06:05.980 So, I mean, why not?

00:06:07.280 Why not have a home in every port?

00:06:10.400 Sure.

00:06:10.980 He can have a place.

00:06:12.140 Why not have a place in New York, Los Angeles?

00:06:14.700 And I think Debra Lee got custody of the home in the Hamptons. 0.99

00:06:19.280 That was a big deal because she wanted to sell herself as an interior designer. 1.00

00:06:23.420 And they, you know, they had their place in the Hamptons after a long time.

00:06:27.200 Like they were living at the, you know, at the courtesy of friends.

00:06:31.200 They were always staying with people and places out there.

00:06:34.840 And then they finally got their own home in the Hamptons.

00:06:38.120 And Debra Lee, she got an architectural digest.

00:06:40.920 She was going to be an interior designer.

00:06:42.760 And it was around that time that I was hiring an interior designer and asked her if she had

00:06:49.400 any recommendations.

00:06:50.420 And she said to me, but I'm an interior designer.

00:06:53.860 And I was like, well, I can't afford you, Debra Lee.

00:06:56.120 I can't afford you, Mrs. Jackman. 0.99

00:06:58.880 But who knows that maybe that's her backup plan.

00:07:02.960 But I feel like I've gotten emails and messages from Australians who are saying that everyone

00:07:09.660 loves Debra in Australia and they're blaming everything on him.

00:07:15.900 Is that your...

00:07:16.600 It's probably a sexist take.

00:07:20.780 And, you know, I sort of figure in those kind of situations, no one is blameless.

00:07:28.300 But it's often easy to blame the man, especially if the man falls in love with somebody else.

00:07:36.580 That's what happens.

00:07:38.120 My mother used to say, you can't break up a happy marriage.

00:07:42.520 So, I mean, if everything was peaches and cream, it wouldn't have broken up.

00:07:47.080 So we'll never know.

00:07:48.920 It's their business.

00:07:50.420 It's unfortunate.

00:07:51.260 But you're right.

00:07:52.400 Debra Lee is much loved.

00:07:53.920 In fact, I'm sure it's a Google search away.

00:07:57.320 She was named a few years ago the Australian of the Year, which is a very distinguished title.

00:08:05.000 And it must have been really satisfying for her because it wasn't about Hugh Jackman.

00:08:10.880 She and her efforts for adoption, because, of course, their children are adopted.

00:08:15.040 And in Australia, it didn't used to be such an easy thing to adopt.

00:08:18.960 And she was a huge advocate to promote easier adoption laws in Australia.

00:08:25.380 And for that and her other humanitarian efforts, she was rewarded with being named Australian of the Year.

00:08:31.720 And I'm sure that was a big deal, especially because, you know, it was her moment, I think.

00:08:37.840 Yeah.

00:08:39.140 Okay.

00:08:39.480 So back to what we were starting talking about here of awkward moments when the cameras, they have issues and technicalities.

00:08:47.140 So you sent me this really funny clip of John Cusack with this reporter.

00:08:53.160 And, I mean, we've all met these reporters that have prepared absolutely nothing for these interviews.

00:09:00.160 And I'm just going to show the clip quickly so people know what I'm talking about here.

00:09:04.180 It's so funny.

00:09:04.840 It's funny.

00:09:05.640 I actually was just text messaging with a friend because I'm missing class right now.

00:09:09.300 You are?

00:09:09.880 And my film class.

00:09:11.000 And it's so funny because they're watching American Beauty today and analyzing it.

00:09:15.060 American Beauty?

00:09:15.760 Mm-hmm.

00:09:16.820 What's funny about that?

00:09:17.740 You were in that.

00:09:18.420 No, I wasn't.

00:09:19.560 American Beauty?

00:09:20.700 No.

00:09:21.900 What's the one with the rose petals?

00:09:23.780 I'm not in that.

00:09:25.220 That's not you?

00:09:26.180 No.

00:09:27.020 Really?

00:09:27.560 No.

00:09:28.440 Really?

00:09:29.240 I swear to God.

00:09:30.240 Am I just very confused?

00:09:31.560 I think you are.

00:09:32.320 I think I am.

00:09:33.260 Okay.

00:09:33.360 Yes.

00:09:33.920 So what were your thoughts when you saw that?

00:09:36.600 Oh, my God.

00:09:38.160 I wanted to feel bad for her at first.

00:09:41.340 I'm like, I just, my heart was bleeding.

00:09:43.540 Like, I was dying.

00:09:45.060 And then I was thinking, well, it's embarrassing for him as well.

00:09:49.240 And then I started, the more I thought about it, and I watched it a couple times, and I

00:09:52.880 thought, you know, who is this kid?

00:09:55.940 Why is she so woefully unprepared, and how did they ever let her in the door to begin

00:10:01.420 with?

00:10:01.680 You and I know better than most the sort of credibility you have to have.

00:10:07.600 And I'm watching this now, and I'm watching this now in 2025, and even as far as, like,

00:10:12.780 the White House press corps, the credentials for media access in this TikTok world in which

00:10:21.620 we live, it's like, oh, you're an influencer?

00:10:23.960 Okay, you can get 10 minutes with the star.

00:10:26.680 I'm like, you're kidding.

00:10:27.800 I'm fighting.

00:10:28.340 I'm on a major network, and I'm fighting to have my three minutes.

00:10:32.860 But that's what happens.

00:10:34.900 You get some inexperienced person who isn't prepared, and I'm not a nut about preparation.

00:10:45.080 Usually, for folks out there, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but for your viewers

00:10:51.660 who may not be aware, when we get the access to a celebrity, it's usually nine times out of 10

00:10:59.220 because they're promoting something specific.

00:11:01.740 So we get a press release.

00:11:03.840 We are mandatory to go to a screening of it.

00:11:07.700 COVID was great for that because at least then they would get you the screenings that you could

00:11:11.720 watch at home because the worst was living in Los Angeles and having to get in your car

00:11:17.240 and go to the theater and be policed like you're a criminal.

00:11:21.660 With some publicist checking your name off and watching you go into the theater.

00:11:26.760 And then asking, what do you think about the movie?

00:11:30.180 You really want to know?

00:11:31.760 I mean, you and I have seen more bad movies.

00:11:34.540 People say, do you want to go to a movie?

00:11:35.960 I hear it's really good.

00:11:36.880 I'm like, God, the last thing I want to do on my day off is go to a movie.

00:11:40.560 You and I have sat through more hours of torture than anyone can imagine and then have to say,

00:11:48.100 Oh, well, I thought it was interesting just to get into the interview.

00:11:52.520 Oh, it's my answer.

00:11:54.040 Oh, I thought it was interesting.

00:11:55.440 Maybe I'm not like the specific target group for this film, but I love the cinematography.

00:12:03.340 Yeah.

00:12:03.540 Well, I love the ending because it was the ending.

00:12:07.440 I really loved the ending.

00:12:08.840 I just don't understand why you are forced.

00:12:13.760 And God, some of those movies that we have sat through over the years, three, four hours long,

00:12:19.160 let alone the time you spend before and after the screening.

00:12:23.220 And then, you know, you're called to be there in the morning.

00:12:25.580 I figured that that was the best thing to come out of COVID was to be able to be given screeners and to be able to see the movie.

00:12:35.060 Because I know for me, a lot of my joy and reaction to a film is based on the experience of watching it.

00:12:45.700 If I'm in a crowded multiplex that smells of popcorn and urine, I'm not going to enjoy the movie so much.

00:12:52.800 If I'm in a private screening room or I'm watching it at home, I'm a day person.

00:12:57.980 I'm not a night person.

00:12:59.360 I don't want to go to a screening at 10 o'clock in the morning.

00:13:01.940 I'd rather screen it at 10 o'clock at night.

00:13:04.500 I'd rather watch it at 10 in the morning.

00:13:06.160 So there's a lot of factors.

00:13:08.020 Have I had a good meal before?

00:13:09.760 Am I going to a good meal after?

00:13:12.120 And we all know that if we like the film more, we're going to have a better interview.

00:13:18.700 We're going to be more enthusiastic about the interview.

00:13:21.660 Unless, I have to say, sometimes when a really big star makes really bad movies, they don't want to talk about the movie.

00:13:29.680 They want to talk about personal things, which has always been good for me.

00:13:33.720 So that's always been kind of my angle.

00:13:36.420 And I remember I came into a, there was a junket once with Anthony Hopkins for, I think it was the movie, Noah.

00:13:44.660 And we were told, like, he doesn't want to talk about the movie.

00:13:48.540 He hates the movie.

00:13:49.620 Don't ask him about the movie.

00:13:51.580 I was like, wow, that's quite interesting.

00:13:55.460 I've never heard that before.

00:13:56.980 But, yeah, back to this journalist.

00:13:59.260 I feel like there's, like you're saying, there's so many journalists who, you know, have no idea what they're talking about.

00:14:05.860 And they end up in these situations. 0.87

00:14:07.460 But have you ended up in a situation where, you know, you really said something stupid or something that you really regretted? 0.93

00:14:15.280 And how did they react? 0.95

00:14:17.800 Yeah, I was trying to think about that.

00:14:19.580 I've never mistaken one celebrity for another, like the girl in the video.

00:14:26.780 And it was Kevin Spacey she thought he was?

00:14:31.600 Yeah, and the wrong movie.

00:14:33.660 She's like, you were in American Beauty. 0.55

00:14:36.460 It's funny you mentioned Kevin Spacey because he is so, I don't know if combative is the right word, but Kevin Spacey is kind of a bully.

00:14:46.480 So, and I've had very few unhappy experiences, but Kevin Spacey was one of them because he just, he was combative.

00:14:54.300 He didn't want to have a good interview.

00:14:57.760 And I get it.

00:14:58.340 He doesn't like doing press.

00:14:59.780 But if you're going to do it, suck it up, buttercup.

00:15:02.680 But I was thinking about that and I thought of Jason Statham.

00:15:08.940 It was like Fast and Furious Part 712, one of those Fast and Furious movies.

00:15:13.820 And he's, he was so stylish and chic.

00:15:18.180 Like whoever, whoever dresses him does a really fantastic job.

00:15:22.360 He always looks terrific.

00:15:23.900 And there were no restrictions on the interview.

00:15:26.760 And really, after, after so many Fast and Furious movies, really, what can you ask that might possibly be original?

00:15:33.620 But I went, I went with style.

00:15:35.700 And he, it was one of those horrible, awkward, where he just sneered at me.

00:15:42.740 I felt, I felt almost like, no, like he was accusing me of hitting on him because I was complimenting his style.

00:15:50.600 I mean, it made me feel really awkward.

00:15:52.720 He shut down.

00:15:53.660 The publicist came out of the darkness to tell me to move on to some other question.

00:15:58.540 And I wonder if that was the same junket that he did the same thing to me.

00:16:04.520 I didn't ask for a fashion loan.

00:16:06.160 It was on the Universal Studios lot.

00:16:09.360 Yes.

00:16:09.660 Yes.

00:16:11.120 And then he stood up and I was very satisfied to see he was my height.

00:16:17.440 And I'm 5'7".

00:16:19.440 And I looked up his official height, which is 5'10".

00:16:24.640 He's not 5'10".

00:16:26.400 He's, he's my height.

00:16:27.920 And I thought maybe that's where all this comes from.

00:16:31.040 Maybe he's got, I don't have a Napoleonic complex, but sometimes some shorter men have a little man complex.

00:16:38.060 And I thought maybe, maybe that was part of it.

00:16:40.780 But yeah.

00:16:41.680 So I, yeah, I don't like to be made to feel less than because as journalists, we are equal to, we may not be celebrities, but we are here having a conversation.

00:16:52.120 So we are peers.

00:16:54.140 We are equal.

00:16:54.960 So do not treat me less than equal.

00:16:58.540 It's so funny that you say that from that junket, because the same junket, I, I asked him because he was turning 50 that year.

00:17:07.100 And I said, Oh, congrats on your big.

00:17:10.020 And 5'7".

00:17:10.500 Yeah, right.

00:17:12.720 So he doesn't like being 50 and 5'7".

00:17:15.280 So of course he was like, same thing happened.

00:17:18.860 And the publicist, I heard the publicist from the side, can we move on to the next question?

00:17:23.980 When I said, are you celebrating big?

00:17:25.920 This is a big thing.

00:17:27.560 And he was like, Oh, we're not talking about that.

00:17:29.900 Like what?

00:17:30.860 And he can't even talk about fashion?

00:17:33.960 Oh my God.

00:17:34.520 I told you that last time we chatted about Paul Rudd.

00:17:37.380 I interviewed Paul Rudd on his birthday.

00:17:39.500 And they came out and were like, do not wish him a happy birthday.

00:17:43.500 Do not acknowledge his birthday.

00:17:45.100 I'm thinking, are you kidding me?

00:17:47.240 I love my birthday.

00:17:48.440 And everybody loves Paul Rudd.

00:17:49.720 And everybody thinks he looks so good for his age.

00:17:52.080 I don't get what that is.

00:17:53.420 But the Jason Statham thing, I think also there is, you know, there are plenty of, I don't

00:18:03.780 know.

00:18:03.980 I think they get paranoid about their thirst trap appeal.

00:18:07.100 And these, these sex, quote unquote, sexy stars, they, they want to be sexy, but then 0.96

00:18:14.160 they, they get uncomfortable if they're treated sexy. 0.99

00:18:17.960 And there are exceptions to that.

00:18:20.700 Like, like, you know, I'm not, I'm not a big fan of Vin Diesel because he's so chronically

00:18:25.720 late to the point of like seven hours kind of late, like rude, passive, not even passive

00:18:31.740 aggressive, aggressive, aggressive lateness.

00:18:33.800 However, Vin Diesel, The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, some of these big macho guys are actually really

00:18:43.900 terrific with me.

00:18:45.060 They're, they're, they can, they're so charismatic that they, they naturally flirt as opposed

00:18:52.360 to somebody like a Jason Statham who might be uncomfortable with that.

00:18:56.000 Maybe that's now that I think about it, maybe that's why Kevin Spacey was uncomfortable with

00:19:00.480 me.

00:19:00.800 Maybe he didn't like you. 0.97

00:19:02.600 Maybe he thought, oh, you know, there's this gay guy is going to turn something sexual, 0.68

00:19:07.220 which I would never in a bazillion years do, but, but maybe it's paranoia. 0.99

00:19:12.880 You know, sex is a, sex is a crazy thing for people.

00:19:16.800 It's interesting that you say that also, because I feel like some celebrities, you know, you

00:19:21.840 might have a terrible experience with, I had a good experiences with it, and then you meet

00:19:26.420 them again, and then they're acting completely different.

00:19:29.980 And you never know what kind of person you're going to get.

00:19:34.780 So what was your like?

00:19:36.820 Blake was like, you really don't, you don't know who you're going to get.

00:19:41.600 But then in fairness, I, you know, my husband doesn't know he, who he's going to get when

00:19:47.420 he wakes up in the morning.

00:19:49.280 Sometimes, sometimes, you know, you just have a funny day.

00:19:52.440 Well, I hope you don't sue him for it, though.

00:19:54.940 I mean, well, he's never talked about my bump, because if he did, he'd know he'd be in big

00:20:00.020 trouble.

00:20:00.980 And you had, because you said, we talked about this before that, because you've obviously

00:20:04.480 been on my show before, but you thought, you spoke about, you had two different, very

00:20:09.220 different experiences with Blake Wively.

00:20:11.520 One was very nice.

00:20:14.200 And one was.

00:20:14.700 The first one was so great.

00:20:16.720 I couldn't wait to see her again.

00:20:18.840 She was, she was flirty and gorgeous and fun and smart.

00:20:24.800 And I just, I couldn't.

00:20:26.620 And then the second time, but as you recall, the second time she was paired with Anna and

00:20:32.720 the whole dynamic was different.

00:20:34.660 And I think in hindsight, that may have been their own thing.

00:20:40.300 That may have been a competition that was going on between them.

00:20:43.700 And I just sort of got mixed up in it.

00:20:46.720 And Ryan Reynolds as well.

00:20:48.280 You said you had a little.

00:20:50.540 I've interviewed Ryan so many times and he was always good.

00:20:56.900 But as he became, you know, in the beginning, he was just this nice Canadian guy.

00:21:01.860 Was he married to Scarlett at that point?

00:21:03.420 I don't know.

00:21:03.780 But he was, he was just this nice, humble, you know, goofy guy.

00:21:08.700 And as he got more successful and better groomed and then more, you know, ruggedly handsome

00:21:16.640 as, as, as he evolved, so did his personality.

00:21:20.720 And I think his paranoia.

00:21:22.320 Then the last time I interviewed him, they were like, we need to see the questions in

00:21:26.200 advance for you can't do the interview.

00:21:28.400 And it was for an animated film.

00:21:30.440 I'm like, you need to see my questions in advance to talk to him about his new animated

00:21:36.480 film.

00:21:38.240 So there was an old movie.

00:21:41.200 That was surprising to me that he was like that, actually.

00:21:43.540 But now that we know so much more about him, you know, I don't know if you follow this drama

00:21:48.220 as closely as I'm, but now I'm like, no, nobody, nobody is following it as closely as you are.

00:21:54.580 I'm sure.

00:21:56.340 I know all the details.

00:21:58.480 No, but now things like that make sense.

00:22:00.700 And I feel like what I've learned so much about throughout this whole Blake Wively, the

00:22:05.280 drama is how the industry works and how dirty things are and the publicists and, you know,

00:22:13.320 the marketing machine and how everyone is trying to, you know, cover up for each other and no

00:22:19.340 one wants to, you know, tell the truth and no one dares to stand up for someone like you

00:22:27.140 seen on both sides here.

00:22:28.680 Blake Wively doesn't really have any friends except Salma Hayek at this point and Hugh Jackman

00:22:33.360 and Justin Boldoni. 0.98

00:22:35.960 There's just like, people are such cowards. 0.97

00:22:40.260 It's very disappointing.

00:22:41.140 You'd like to think in this information era and in this age of oversharing where everybody's

00:22:48.280 sharing every nook and cranny of their personal lives, you'd like to think it's different,

00:22:54.820 that it might be more open and friendly and less paranoiac.

00:22:59.200 However, the past is prologue.

00:23:03.060 And if you look back in classic Hollywood history to the day, the heyday of Luella Parsons

00:23:08.700 and Hedda Hopper, the original tabloid journalists of all the Hollywood rags, that they made or

00:23:16.740 broke careers.

00:23:18.680 And everybody lived in fear of those journalists.

00:23:24.660 And I think as much as we'd like to think we have evolved as a society, that the industry

00:23:30.240 has evolved, it's the same.

00:23:31.940 They are terrified of us.

00:23:35.080 And they hate us.

00:23:37.960 They pretend to love us.

00:23:39.920 They pretend to love us.

00:23:41.440 They need to love us.

00:23:43.340 But they're scared and worried about what we could do.

00:23:49.000 And I guess rightfully so.

00:23:51.300 I mean, there are bad, there are bad journalists.

00:23:53.960 Yeah, looking really quietly, you know.

00:23:56.420 Yeah, but there are bad journalists out there. 0.93

00:23:59.340 You know, we live in a TMZ world, but we've, it's always been a, before TMZ, it was the National

00:24:06.540 Inquirer.

00:24:07.300 Before the National Inquirer, it was Hollywood Confidential. 0.99

00:24:10.300 There has always been, you know, tabloid trash. 0.82

00:24:15.180 But you and I don't live in that world and operate in that world.

00:24:19.540 And I guess that's why the actors and their publicists are paranoid about it.

00:24:25.020 Because bad representatives are out there.

00:24:28.440 But I was speaking to another journalist a little while ago, and he was like, oh, I was

00:24:33.680 talking, he was talking to a producer who said that, oh, I miss the old days, you know,

00:24:39.140 when you had junkets and celebrities didn't behave right.

00:24:43.820 And, you know, these clips were everywhere.

00:24:46.640 And it was such good PR marketing for the movie, because people started talking about

00:24:51.580 it.

00:24:52.080 Now, it's so controlled that there's never any headlines from these type of interviews.

00:24:57.200 I think the last time there was like any viral moment was when Ariana Grande was, you 0.99

00:25:03.400 know, holding that fingernail in a wicked interview. 1.00

00:25:06.600 I was like, that was like the big moment of last year of viral moments in these press

00:25:13.800 shrunkets.

00:25:15.040 And I think that she's right.

00:25:17.360 You know, it's become so boring, these interviews.

00:25:20.500 And they don't really happen that much anymore.

00:25:23.180 You're not doing them anymore, are you?

00:25:25.680 Very, very, very rarely.

00:25:27.460 And now I'm covering political news.

00:25:29.580 I have an outlet with Britain, GB News.

00:25:32.380 And it's funny because I'm doing commentary and reporting on political stories.

00:25:39.520 And it's interesting that I'm flexing the exact same muscles.

00:25:44.320 It feels very familiar to me.

00:25:46.160 But instead of talking about movie stars, I'm talking about politicians.

00:25:50.720 And it's really just the same.

00:25:52.800 It goes to show you that fame is fame.

00:25:54.960 It's just it's just a different outlet.

00:25:58.300 And it's a fun change of pace for me because I, you know, you get a little fatigued after

00:26:04.960 30 years of talking about movie stars.

00:26:07.680 It's kind of fun to talk about something different.

00:26:10.580 But but some are good at it.

00:26:12.700 You mentioned Anthony Hopkins not wanting to talk about the film.

00:26:16.300 So that's that's exciting for us because it's something different.

00:26:19.920 And it and it makes for noteworthy things.

00:26:24.240 And I like when publicists say, do not ask them about their children.

00:26:29.620 Do not ask them about their whatever.

00:26:33.280 And they they always the publicist always sort of say that in a threatening way, like you'd

00:26:39.480 better not ask them about their divorce or their children or whatever.

00:26:45.140 And I never fight it.

00:26:47.260 Some journalists go, oh, but I need to.

00:26:49.040 Do I need to find out about that?

00:26:50.440 I'm like, no, no, you don't want me to talk about it.

00:26:52.300 I won't.

00:26:53.300 Because nine times out of 10, like an Anthony Hopkins, if they feel comfortable, if the

00:26:59.560 talent feels comfortable with you and they can trust you, you've agreed not to talk about

00:27:04.380 X, Y, Z.

00:27:05.860 They're going to open up anyway.

00:27:07.780 I remember Angelina Jolie.

00:27:09.480 They had all this list of things you couldn't talk about with her. 1.00

00:27:13.080 And I thought, oh, she's going to be a giant pain in my ass. 1.00

00:27:16.540 And I got in there. 1.00

00:27:18.160 She was wonderful.

00:27:19.800 And she started talking about her kids.

00:27:22.480 And I just sort of nodded and went along.

00:27:24.920 She always talked about her kids.

00:27:26.960 You know what?

00:27:27.480 I think the celebrities don't even know what the publicists are talking about behind their

00:27:31.600 backs.

00:27:32.020 I had just had a drink with another journalist here in Spain that used to do junkets as well.

00:27:37.960 And she said she was representing someone now because she was going on to the other side.

00:27:43.600 And she said that, you know, she got all this list of things that, you know, they couldn't

00:27:49.040 ask him about at this TV show.

00:27:50.900 And he was so surprised by it.

00:27:53.160 And he was like, wow, I don't mind talking about that or that.

00:27:56.040 So sometimes they don't even know that we are not supposed to ask them about things.

00:28:01.060 And I think sometimes...

00:28:02.300 I don't know why you would agree to give an interview if you had things you couldn't

00:28:07.440 talk about.

00:28:08.020 Who lives like that?

00:28:09.560 What nefarious, evil, salacious things are you up to that you have to restrict it?

00:28:18.280 I'm, I'm, I now have a publicist.

00:28:21.480 I guess so.

00:28:23.040 But I guess I'm naive.

00:28:25.300 And, you know, so with my last book, I hired a publicist to help me get the word out about

00:28:31.720 the book.

00:28:32.240 So it's interesting because for the first time, I'm on that side of things.

00:28:37.020 And they'll ask me, you know, is there anything you do or don't want to talk about?

00:28:41.640 And I'm like, no, well, obviously I want to talk about the book because that's why we're

00:28:46.120 talking, but it would never occur to me to say something's off limits, but maybe that's

00:28:52.600 a reflection of, you know, a clean life.

00:28:56.720 Yeah.

00:28:57.020 Or, you know, if there's the, if they're asking something you feel uncomfortable about,

00:29:01.420 you know how to answer it and you'll be like, yeah, yeah.

00:29:04.400 I mean, and they're still trained in this.

00:29:07.080 Most of these people have been trained in interviews and, you know, a lot of them have

00:29:11.280 done them for years.

00:29:12.020 So why wouldn't you be able to, to answer a question in a way that doesn't really give

00:29:16.380 an answer?

00:29:16.900 A lot of them are very good at that.

00:29:19.040 You know, people like Leonardo DiCaprio who never answers anything really personal.

00:29:24.060 He just like, you know, make sure that he just kind of get it back to the movie.

00:29:30.540 I hate when they do that and you ask them something else.

00:29:32.940 And then they were like, and I always did the tricky thing.

00:29:37.240 I'd be like, yeah, you know, in the movie you play this character who's like this and

00:29:41.640 that.

00:29:42.160 In real life you have to kind of get them to talk about personal things.

00:29:48.660 And that usually works.

00:29:50.180 I mean, I'm sure they see through it, but they're like, okay, she's making an effort

00:29:53.880 here to make it sound like it is about the movie.

00:29:56.380 Well, we started this conversation talking about preparation and, and awkward moments

00:30:03.040 of where you might have to kill time with a celebrity.

00:30:05.820 And one of the preparations that I always have made when interviewing someone famous is

00:30:13.220 to, you know, it, it, it either springs to mind or it's a quick Google search.

00:30:18.640 I try and find what is the one degree of separation.

00:30:21.960 And after all those years of living in Hollywood, it was easy.

00:30:26.400 Leonardo DiCaprio is a great example.

00:30:28.340 What's my degree of separation away from Leonardo DiCaprio?

00:30:31.640 So I can throw that in and make it feel personal and, and trustworthy.

00:30:35.740 In his case, I spent a few Christmases with his mother.

00:30:39.780 She and I were on the same guest list at somebody's house.

00:30:43.160 So I had Christmas dinner for like three or four years in a row with his mother.

00:30:46.800 So it was a, so whenever I would interview Leo, I'd say, how's Ermelin?

00:30:51.680 And, you know, we, we, you know, and I'd ask for his mom, we'd have a quick little chat

00:30:56.000 and that relaxed things.

00:30:59.200 It could be the, oh, I know your personal trainer.

00:31:02.120 Oh, I know your chef, Jennifer Aniston, Brad Pitt.

00:31:04.520 I knew their chef.

00:31:05.900 And it was, they, they made a lot of snacks for the munchies that they would get.

00:31:10.600 But, you know, having, having, having just some little degree of separation really helps

00:31:18.240 make things easier and more comfortable.

00:31:21.940 Ben Stiller is another great example.

00:31:23.700 I had to kill some time with Ben Stiller and I lived in the building next door to his parents

00:31:30.960 where he was raised and they're gone now.

00:31:34.760 The parents are gone and Ben doesn't have the apartment in the building anymore.

00:31:37.680 So it's not a secret to say it was West 84th Street here in Manhattan.

00:31:41.880 And West 84th Street is also called Edgar Allan Poe Street because the famous writer Edgar

00:31:49.460 Allan Poe also lived on that street.

00:31:52.180 So when I would see Ben, I'd be like, saw your dad on Edgar Allan Poe.

00:31:56.780 And there's a, there's a camaraderie.

00:32:00.080 And I find that's always a tip I give to young journalists.

00:32:03.780 Find that thread, find some degree of separation that, that you have in common with your interview

00:32:11.160 subject and it will change everything.

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00:33:13.580 Why didn't you tell me this 15 years ago?

00:33:18.120 Well, I was still living on West 84th 15 years ago.

00:33:21.580 But yeah, it's...

00:33:23.000 I never have.

00:33:24.220 I never tried that, actually.

00:33:25.760 That's a good idea.

00:33:26.740 Although I don't have any kind of connection with most people I interview.

00:33:31.300 But yeah, I sometimes talk about the weather or, you know,

00:33:36.780 I go into everyone's Instagram before I interview people.

00:33:41.000 I go through everything.

00:33:42.400 Good.

00:33:42.440 That's smart.

00:33:43.260 Yeah.

00:33:43.640 And then you see, oh, you have a dog.

00:33:46.200 Oh, that's so cute.

00:33:47.260 You can talk about their dog.

00:33:48.700 You can say, oh, I saw you.

00:33:49.980 And if they're posting it, if they're posting it, they're proud of it.

00:33:53.580 Like it's part of their PR.

00:33:57.420 So that's a great thing.

00:33:59.080 And they have to talk about it, too, because they're already posted it to the world.

00:34:02.640 They can't say, I don't want to talk about that.

00:34:04.100 But it's on Instagram.

00:34:05.440 Yeah.

00:34:05.880 You already published it.

00:34:08.860 That's right.

00:34:09.820 That's right.

00:34:10.560 They would have no leg to stand on if they wanted to be upset about that.

00:34:15.460 We had one of the best vacations of our life earlier this year.

00:34:19.820 We went on a...

00:34:21.140 I am making a point here.

00:34:23.420 We went on a Ritz-Carlton yacht cruise.

00:34:26.800 It was very fancy.

00:34:28.220 It was very small.

00:34:29.580 It was...

00:34:30.180 We had the best time.

00:34:31.420 It was a real kind of honeymoon trip.

00:34:34.100 Well, all of a sudden, the Ritz-Carlton yacht cruises have started bringing in celebrities.

00:34:40.940 Martha Stewart just posted something of herself on a Ritz-Carlton yacht cruise making Martha 0.59

00:34:47.000 Rita's instead of Margarita's.

00:34:49.840 And then some other handsome, hunky guy was coming off the Ritz-Carlton.

00:34:54.380 And, you know, it was a PR thing.

00:34:56.040 It was like, oh, look at who takes our vacations.

00:34:58.240 And a friend of mine who's not in the business said, oh, I got to do one of these vacations because look at the celebrities that are going on them.

00:35:06.540 And I thought, I don't...

00:35:08.540 It's less of an appeal to me.

00:35:10.760 I don't want to go on a vacation because a celebrity goes on that vacation. 1.00

00:35:16.280 It would be fun to run into a celebrity if they were incognito under the radar going on vacation.

00:35:23.360 You'd be like, yeah, we're taking the same vacation.

00:35:26.040 But to me, it's the opposite effect.

00:35:29.340 Too many celebrities...

00:35:31.120 I wouldn't want to go on a vacation with a celebrity.

00:35:34.740 Yeah, no, I've never even thought about it.

00:35:39.880 But I remember when we were at Sony, had these things in Cancun.

00:35:43.920 I don't know if you ever went to those where we spent a year, a week at a Ritz-Carlton with all these celebrities.

00:35:51.540 They were all there and they brought their families.

00:35:54.680 Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie was there and they brought their kids and they were everywhere.

00:35:59.380 You would run into Julia Roberts in the gym. 0.97

00:36:01.500 It was really interesting and weird and to see them in an element of being on vacation at the same time.

00:36:09.980 But then you were feeling like...

00:36:11.620 They couldn't have been relaxed.

00:36:13.080 They could not have been relaxed.

00:36:15.120 And then you were like, okay, that's Leonardo DiCaprio at the pool.

00:36:19.360 And then you're just like, I have to lie here and stare at him because you have to.

00:36:23.900 So you're just like, I'm pretending.

00:36:26.460 That's a movie.

00:36:27.720 You should make a movie of that.

00:36:30.020 That is a fantastic premise for a film.

00:36:34.240 Yeah, maybe.

00:36:35.480 Oh, there's so many things to make movies about.

00:36:38.060 Anyway.

00:36:38.540 I was going to say, I like it when you run into, like when we would travel for a junket, you would see a celebrity in the gym.

00:36:47.320 I remember being in the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills and I'd be on the treadmill at four in the morning or whatever.

00:36:52.300 And there would be Chris Hemsworth lifting weights.

00:36:55.960 But it was not like a showy thing.

00:36:57.820 He was just staying in the same hotel.

00:36:59.800 So he came down to the gym.

00:37:01.680 Antonio Banderas was doing yoga.

00:37:03.920 Boy, is he limber.

00:37:05.100 You wouldn't believe how limber Antonio Banderas is.

00:37:08.180 So I, you know, that's how I want to see a celebrity in their own habitat.

00:37:12.680 I don't want a staged opportunity, Martha Stewart, with your Martha Taney.

00:37:17.840 I love that.

00:37:21.020 Let me see if I've gone through everything that we were going to talk.

00:37:23.720 Did we talk about what we were going to talk about?

00:37:25.660 So Magnus asked me earlier, he's like, ask Nelson if he ever felt like, because he's like, yeah, you should talk about what celebrities you feel threatened by.

00:37:35.760 And I was like, would he be threatened, like physically threatened?

00:37:38.260 He's like, yeah, I feel like, or Magnus feels like Michael Fassbender or someone like Russell Crowe would kind of get to the point where they could get so angry that he would be afraid of them.

00:37:51.360 Do you have anyone like that?

00:37:52.620 Well, I can't imagine, I can't imagine I would ever instigate anything that could make someone that angry at me to feel threatening of me.

00:38:06.080 Right now, I'm in New York City right now, I'm in Harlem, and I'm looking at two parasailors.

00:38:13.440 I can't believe what I'm seeing out my window.

00:38:15.860 There are people paragliding over Manhattan.

00:38:19.460 I've never seen that before in my life.

00:38:21.360 I distract.

00:38:22.360 Russell Crowe, Australian.

00:38:26.120 My outlet for 20 years was Australian.

00:38:28.940 I was coming out of a bathroom in a hotel doing a junket.

00:38:32.420 I wasn't supposed to see him for hours, but I had other people to interview, and I was coming out of the bathroom, zipping up or whatever, and he was coming in, unzipping, and we looked at each other.

00:38:45.040 And, of course, I recognized him, and he looks at me, and he went, I know you.

00:38:49.120 And I was like, well, I know what you're watching in the mornings then.

00:38:53.240 And he says, my wife.

00:38:54.680 I said, you have very good taste in television.

00:38:56.700 That's what I said.

00:38:57.460 And I said, oh, you have very good taste in television if you recognize me.

00:39:00.920 And he said, my wife handles the remote. 1.00

00:39:04.480 So that was very funny.

00:39:06.340 And I said, I'm going to make you repeat that when we have a camera rolling, which he did.

00:39:11.700 But, no, I don't think I've ever felt threatened.

00:39:15.000 What I think is interesting is when you interview these really hot, perceived as hot actors, like Hugh Jackman or a Jason Statham or whomever, but they're really just not ever hot.

00:39:34.180 I thought Guy Pearce was a lot more attractive in person.

00:39:39.320 And that first time I met Blake Lively, I was kind of blown away by how beautiful she looked.

00:39:45.500 But most of the time, they're not as sexy as you hope they'll be.

00:39:52.500 Oh, I'll tell you who's scary, who I thought was going to be scary.

00:39:56.800 Everybody, everybody was warning me, you better be ready.

00:40:00.820 You've got to get, you know, you're going to hate this.

00:40:04.040 You're going to hate this.

00:40:06.200 Harrison Ford, Kevin Costner, and Tommy Lee Jones.

00:40:11.460 And I didn't interview them at the same time, but over the years.

00:40:15.280 And Harrison a couple of times, Kevin once, Tommy Lee a couple of times.

00:40:19.380 But they were always presented to me as scary.

00:40:24.340 Watch your step.

00:40:25.220 He's in a bad mood today.

00:40:26.520 Rah, rah, rah, rah, rah.

00:40:28.160 Never had a problem with any of them.

00:40:29.880 Tommy Lee.

00:40:30.680 Did you ever?

00:40:31.500 No, I've actually never met any of those.

00:40:35.020 Yeah, Harrison.

00:40:35.840 No, no, I haven't.

00:40:37.460 But I've heard stories about Tommy Lee Jones.

00:40:39.220 Don't be scared.

00:40:40.260 But I think Kevin Costner, I only heard good things about, though.

00:40:44.500 But what I was a little scared of Mel Gibson, I remember.

00:40:49.640 But then I realized he's very insecure and kind of shy.

00:40:53.240 So it was like, but Russell Crowe can be very intimidating.

00:40:57.960 Michael Fassbender, too.

00:40:59.620 Very, I had a horrible experience with him once.

00:41:02.220 And a really nice one another time.

00:41:04.660 You know, you never know what kind of mood he's going to be.

00:41:08.060 And he's like Jacqueline Hyde.

00:41:10.480 Oh, no.

00:41:11.200 But others I've been, like, really scared of.

00:41:15.700 Oh, I don't know.

00:41:18.740 Are there any women that you feel like you've been a bit scared of?

00:41:22.860 Well, you know, of course, every time you interview Meryl Streep,

00:41:26.780 and I've interviewed her, I don't know, a half a dozen times.

00:41:30.100 But she's always terrific.

00:41:32.340 You know, I don't know.

00:41:33.360 I've never really had problems.

00:41:35.660 Chris Pine?

00:41:38.040 Yeah.

00:41:38.600 Very, very hungover.

00:41:40.740 He was very...

00:41:42.260 He can be kind of.

00:41:43.620 I feel like you really have to be on your toes with him.

00:41:47.240 That was tough.

00:41:47.960 Well, I didn't.

00:41:48.680 I just, I could barely get him awake.

00:41:50.480 He was, like, falling asleep in his chair.

00:41:53.400 But nobody uncomfortable that I can think of.

00:41:58.840 I get, there are a couple times I've been tongue-tied just because of my own,

00:42:04.120 like, I think we've talked about this before.

00:42:06.020 Viggo Mortensen is, without a doubt, to me, just, it's subjective,

00:42:12.720 the sexiest, most attractive, intimidating, talented.

00:42:18.940 I mean, he's got everything going for him.

00:42:21.960 And I first met him in the 80s when we were both on a soap opera called Search for Tomorrow.

00:42:27.660 But I don't know.

00:42:29.200 Like, I can barely speak when I'm around Viggo Mortensen.

00:42:32.680 And Idina Menzel is the same way.

00:42:35.740 And she's lovely and charming and can talk the hind legs off a donkey. 1.00

00:42:39.100 But I'm so in awe of Idina Menzel that I, I, I, I, I, I can talk, I can barely talk when I'm with her.

00:42:48.520 Oh.

00:42:49.820 Huh.

00:42:50.660 Yeah.

00:42:51.060 As I said before, I had this with Tom Hiddleston that I thought I never, like, I was never attracted to him or anything like that.

00:42:59.520 But then I had that interview with him where I was like, whoa, it turned out to be, like, this really deep conversation about love and falling in love.

00:43:09.400 And he was so flirtatious.

00:43:10.660 And I went out of there.

00:43:11.680 I was like, oh, my God.

00:43:13.860 Isn't that great?

00:43:15.480 Yes.

00:43:15.660 I think that is so great.

00:43:17.180 Patrick Wilson.

00:43:18.220 I think Patrick Wilson, of course, he's been married forever, straight as an arrow.

00:43:23.180 But he has a natural ability to, to flirt.

00:43:28.440 I don't, I don't even know if he thinks he's flirting.

00:43:30.680 But he looks you in the eye.

00:43:33.200 Jeff Goldblum.

00:43:34.100 Oh, my God.

00:43:34.860 Jeff Goldblum is the same way.

00:43:36.880 Jeff Goldblum.

00:43:37.300 And he's so tough.

00:43:38.160 Jeff, Jeff Goldblum is looking down at you and making, making this, this sensual eye.

00:43:43.900 And in that voice, he's got that low voice.

00:43:46.960 And he uses your name.

00:43:48.560 He'll say, well, Nelson.

00:43:50.860 And then he'll, he'll touch you gently on your arm while he's talking to you.

00:43:56.900 And you are just like, tell me more, Jeff Goldblum.

00:43:59.880 You can do no wrong.

00:44:01.240 He's, he's the best.

00:44:02.680 Jeff Goldblum is the best.

00:44:03.680 Yeah.

00:44:04.260 I've never, I was supposed to interview him once, but I don't remember what happened.

00:44:07.500 But I've seen interviews with him.

00:44:10.320 And that's exactly, Magnus did an interview with him when he was so funny.

00:44:14.300 And I was like, wow.

00:44:15.900 He, yeah.

00:44:17.480 He is.

00:44:18.080 I had a picture of us together in 1997.

00:44:22.480 I come up to about his elbow.

00:44:24.840 And I had a picture of us from the 90s.

00:44:27.840 And then I went to Maui.

00:44:30.660 I think it was Maui for one of the Jurassic movies.

00:44:33.640 And he was there and I showed him the picture of us from 1997, you know, 20 years earlier

00:44:40.640 or something.

00:44:41.220 And he's like, Nelson, we've got to recreate that.

00:44:44.480 And, you know, he called somebody out to take the picture and he's just, I have all the

00:44:49.120 time in the world for Jeff Goldblum.

00:44:50.620 I forgot about that.

00:44:51.560 He's, he's in my top 10.

00:44:53.600 Oh, that's nice.

00:44:55.320 So we're ending this on a positive note.

00:44:57.680 I've been like so critical towards Hollywood and everything going on there throughout my

00:45:03.300 podcast and everything on YouTube.

00:45:05.080 So this is good.

00:45:06.340 There's some positivity here.

00:45:08.360 Still, there are some nice people out there.

00:45:11.340 We have met some nice people.

00:45:15.020 So I'd always rather, I'm not afraid to talk about the, the, the terrible things, but I.

00:45:20.540 But you have to talk about your books and your cabaret and your other projects because

00:45:26.260 you have so much going on and I want you to have the opportunity here to tell everyone

00:45:30.520 about it.

00:45:31.780 Yeah.

00:45:33.060 Thank you.

00:45:33.860 Thank you.

00:45:34.340 And in a nutshell, my new book, Kindred Spirits, A Titanic Tale, which is a historical fantasy

00:45:42.180 based on two actual passengers on the Titanic.

00:45:46.800 I, who I believe had an unrequited love affair.

00:45:50.720 It's, so it's the first gay Titanic novel. 0.60

00:45:53.640 Uh, it's, I'm enjoying traveling the world, promoting the book, uh, available on Amazon

00:46:00.120 or wherever you get your, your books.

00:46:02.160 And, um, uh, we're having such a good time with it that I'm, I've been booked on Cunard's

00:46:09.620 Queen Mary too, to make a transatlantic crossing of Titanic's route.

00:46:14.640 And we, I will be giving speech lectures and talks about Titanic, uh, over the rec site,

00:46:21.720 which is incredible.

00:46:22.660 And I, I also do a Titanic talk podcast.

00:46:26.120 So I never thought in my quote unquote retirement, I'd be spending all my time doing Titanic stuff.

00:46:33.000 And in October of 2026, I, people can come with me.

00:46:38.620 I'm doing a tour of Ireland.

00:46:40.760 I will take people around Ireland, culminating in Belfast, Northern Ireland, which is where

00:46:47.580 Titanic was built.

00:46:49.180 It's where the original offices have been converted into a hotel.

00:46:53.920 The definitive Titanic museum is there, which is breathtaking.

00:46:58.620 And, you know, the Irish, the Irish people are so warm and wonderful.

00:47:02.740 There's so much to do and see.

00:47:04.140 So all of that's on nelsonastman.com.

00:47:06.320 You can, you can find the books, you can find my tours and all that stuff.

00:47:10.040 But it's, it's really interesting that Titanic has taken such a major part in my life, including

00:47:16.720 July 10th and 17th here in New York city.

00:47:20.240 I'm doing a cabaret show where it's an evening of songs and stories related to my book about

00:47:28.000 Titanic.

00:47:28.620 So here we go.

00:47:30.420 It's not all Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet.

00:47:33.400 It's Nelson too.

00:47:34.820 I will leave links below in this video on YouTube.

00:47:38.600 So people can go and check you out and get tickets if they want to.

00:47:42.920 And then also, of course, your two books that we spoke about last time with your crazy life

00:47:47.920 stories with celebrity, juicy gossip and tea. 0.99

00:47:52.300 Sex, sex. 0.98

00:47:52.980 There's sex. 0.99

00:47:53.420 There's sex in my Titanic book too. 0.62

00:47:55.060 Jackie Collins told me, always put sex in your books because even if people say they don't

00:48:00.420 want to read it, they're going to want to read it.

00:48:02.280 If nothing else to say that they didn't want to read it.

00:48:05.000 So yeah, a little sex goes a long way.

00:48:08.040 It does. 0.97

00:48:09.280 Wow.

00:48:09.640 Thank you so much, Nelson, for having the time to talk to me and for, you know, for being

00:48:16.600 patient with my technical issues.

00:48:18.980 We go back so far.

00:48:22.100 This is so great to be in each other's clutches after all these years.

00:48:25.940 You're stuck with me forever.

00:48:27.580 Thank you so much to Nelson and to you guys for listening.

00:48:30.660 I hope you enjoy that.

00:48:32.280 And so, yes, if you haven't subscribed to my channel yet on YouTube, please do that and

00:48:36.080 hit the notification bell so you don't miss an episode of any of my podcasts or any of

00:48:41.460 my episodes that I post every day because I do that too.

00:48:44.920 And of course, if there's anything you want me to talk about, please send me a message

00:48:48.620 on flawsometalk at gmail.com and I'll see you in my next one.

00:48:53.220 Bye.

Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - July 04, 2025

Ep 6： Hollywood EXPOSED： Secrets They Don’t Want You to Know !!？

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