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00:00:30.000 Oh my God, the great unsealing has begun.

00:00:39.300 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.

00:00:41.080 I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:48.000 Okay, so the unsealing has begun.

00:00:51.920 I was a bit shocked this morning when I saw that Blake Lively's team had uploaded 150 documents,

00:00:59.400 supposedly supporting her narrative.

00:01:03.860 I can't recall that she actually uploaded a lot of documents before, one day prior to the deadline,

00:01:12.120 because the deadline of uploading these documents is tomorrow at 10 a.m. Eastern.

00:01:18.240 And Blake Lively decided to do it now.

00:01:21.000 Now, why is that?

00:01:22.420 I wonder how many stories we are going to see in the press later today and tomorrow being planted by Blake Lively's PR team,

00:01:33.820 and especially her new PR attorney, Sigrid, that also worked for Epstein victims, as I spoke about earlier this week.

00:01:42.860 But let's get into all this evidence.

00:01:44.940 So there's a lot of small snippets here from depositions.

00:01:47.820 In this episode, I wanted to focus on Isabella Ferrer's deposition and a little bit from Colin Hoover,

00:01:54.060 and also something they attached from Leslie Sloan, Blake Lively's publicist.

00:02:00.920 There is so much stuff here.

00:02:02.440 There's also a lot of text messages attached in conversations between Blake and Justin.

00:02:08.140 And, of course, as expected, Blake's team has cherry-picked little bits and pieces and cut off depositions where it gets interesting.

00:02:17.720 As per usual, when Blake is attaching evidence, it doesn't really support her.

00:02:22.920 It just gives us more confidence that we are on the right side of the truth there.

00:02:27.700 And this is what's happening here.

00:02:29.780 Reading Isabella Ferrer's deposition makes it so obvious to me what has happened here.

00:02:37.000 So I'm going to go through some of that and some of the contradictions in that,

00:02:41.240 and then I'll get a little bit into Leslie Sloan at the end of this, 0.87

00:02:44.120 because reading from her deposition just tells me everything about who she really is.

00:02:48.860 So in Isabella Ferrer's deposition, she mentions now there's been three incidents

00:02:53.860 where Justin was behaving inappropriate towards her.

00:02:57.680 We only knew about one prior to this,

00:03:01.080 which was that he came over to her and Alex, her co-star in the movie,

00:03:05.420 and told them that this, that was hot after they had filmed an intimate scene together.

00:03:12.980 Now she's adding two more incidents to that. 0.92

00:03:16.420 And this is going to make you laugh.

00:03:18.340 So the attorney here is asking, can you tell me about the second incident?

00:03:22.340 And then she's saying,

00:03:23.300 There was a scene in which my character, Lily, is in the kitchen,

00:03:27.500 and the other character, played by my co-star Alex Neustradstetter,

00:03:32.040 I can't say his last name, whatever.

00:03:34.220 Alex is making cookies,

00:03:35.640 and there was a note that was a change to the scene

00:03:38.700 in which he was feeding me cookie dough from a spoon.

00:03:42.500 Justin offered that I lick the cookie dough off the spoon,

00:03:45.580 and I look up at my co-star in a way that deemed to me kind of inappropriate,

00:03:51.640 given the context of the scene.

00:03:54.560 So Alex is playing her boyfriend in this movie,

00:03:57.980 and when this happened,

00:03:59.460 I don't know if this was after they shot that intimate scene together or not,

00:04:03.060 but they're supposed to fall in love.

00:04:05.360 So the fact that Justin gave her a note

00:04:08.240 to look up at her co-star while licking the spoon,

00:04:12.080 I mean, the attorney is saying,

00:04:16.400 Did you make any complaints to Mr. Baldonia at the time?

00:04:19.860 No, she says.

00:04:20.800 Did you make a complaint to anyone at Wayfair about this scene?

00:04:24.220 No.

00:04:25.140 Did you contact your manager about your concerns of the note

00:04:28.820 or change to that scene?

00:04:30.620 No.

00:04:31.560 Did you complain to Alex that you felt that it was not an inappropriate,

00:04:35.040 that it was not an appropriate change to the scene?

00:04:38.100 Yes.

00:04:38.460 So Alex is her co-star,

00:04:40.340 and she did complain to him according to herself here.

00:04:45.160 Anything else that has impacted your opinion on Mr. Baldoni

00:04:48.060 other than what you have already told me?

00:04:50.820 And then she says,

00:04:51.720 What Alex expressed to me that he experienced on set,

00:04:55.020 which had to do with me.

00:04:57.020 Okay, can you tell us about that?

00:04:59.640 So here it goes.

00:05:01.320 This is even better.

00:05:02.600 The first day I met Alex and the first day I met,

00:05:05.140 the first day I met Alex and the first day I was on set before the intimacy rehearsal,

00:05:10.320 which I had earlier referenced,

00:05:12.240 I was told this after the fact months later because Alex expressed that he didn't want me

00:05:17.580 to feel uncomfortable.

00:05:18.960 But Alex told me that he had had a private conversation while we were on the way to the

00:05:24.260 car to drive to Jersey City,

00:05:26.380 in which Justin pulled Alex to the side and said,

00:05:29.820 I really want you to get to know Isabella well.

00:05:32.560 And then he winked at him.

00:05:35.160 What?

00:05:36.240 I seriously doubt that that happened,

00:05:38.740 that he winked at him saying that,

00:05:40.880 hey, you should get your co-star to bed?

00:05:43.360 Is that what he meant by that?

00:05:44.740 I mean, I find that so hard to believe, to be honest with you.

00:05:49.140 So that is her third incident here, you guys.

00:05:52.320 And then this is what's really telling to me.

00:05:54.660 Because the things they're asking her here makes Blake Lively's claims just collapse.

00:06:00.700 Because she's asking her,

00:06:02.040 did Miss Lively ever share with you an incident where Mr. Baldoni was in her trailer and crying?

00:06:08.260 I don't recall.

00:06:09.360 Of course you could recall.

00:06:10.360 You remember if someone tells you that.

00:06:12.100 And then the attorney continues,

00:06:15.860 are you aware of Mr. Baldoni or Mr. Heath or anyone from WAFER

00:06:18.740 encouraging Blake to film a birth scene in the nude?

00:06:22.120 No.

00:06:23.320 And I apologize if I've already asked you this.

00:06:25.360 Were you ever on set during the filming when Blake was filming?

00:06:28.140 Yes.

00:06:28.960 Did you ever witness Justin Baldoni improvise physical contact with Blake?

00:06:33.080 No.

00:06:34.180 Did Miss Lively ever complain to you that Justin Baldoni was improvising physical contact with her?

00:06:39.720 No.

00:06:40.400 Yeah, I find that very interesting.

00:06:42.100 She knew nothing about the incidents that Blake's are referring to here.

00:06:47.800 And the two of them were really close.

00:06:49.200 And Blake never told her about any of that.

00:06:51.460 And she never witnessed any of that. 0.90

00:06:53.200 That basically means she's a complete useless witness here. 0.92

00:06:56.700 So the only reason they're using her is to create some kind of pattern.

00:07:00.540 Because she had these three incidents that she claims happened to her on the sets.

00:07:06.440 I'm interested to hear Alex, her co-star's version of these events.

00:07:10.740 I haven't seen that yet.

00:07:12.100 But that's going to be interesting when that comes out.

00:07:14.440 I can't wait for Justin's version of all of this, by the way.

00:07:17.440 Okay.

00:07:17.740 And here is where it gets really, really twisted.

00:07:21.320 So this part, I had to read this so many times to try to understand what she's trying to say here.

00:07:28.180 So basically, Isabella Ferrer is accusing Justin Baldoni of bullying all the women in the movie.

00:07:37.980 Because when they came out to promote the movie and didn't talk about DV, they got so much backlash online for that.

00:07:47.840 And he didn't stand up to protect them and to defend them in public.

00:07:54.140 And she really believes that he is behind all the negative publicity that they got online and in the media.

00:08:01.280 And she's saying that he is to blame for all of that because he chose behind their backs.

00:08:07.980 To talk about DV and talk about the subject of the movie when she's saying here that they were told not to talk about DV.

00:08:17.200 And she can't really point to who told her not to talk about DV.

00:08:22.120 And due to this, basically, she called Justin Baldoni the best con artist she's ever witnessed.

00:08:30.280 She's asked about that here in her deposition.

00:08:32.760 The attorney is asking, why were you on the opinion that Justin Baldoni was the best con artist you had ever witnessed?

00:08:40.300 Isabella responds, I think I at this time believe that he, due to us all seemingly doing our press without him,

00:08:48.560 there had been a narrative that was spun in which he had been victim to us all bullying him and icing him out of the press.

00:08:56.980 And out of all of these things in which then he was able to play up this narrative that he had been a victim to us bullying him,

00:09:06.200 which I obviously don't think I ever bullied him.

00:09:09.580 But I guess I saw the way that things were playing out online as an ingenuine narrative.

00:09:16.480 So I guess I associated that with a con artist.

00:09:19.940 That was the description I used.

00:09:22.900 Try to let that sink in, you guys.

00:09:25.380 What on earth is she talking about here?

00:09:28.380 Try to make sense of this. 0.57

00:09:29.840 He is a con artist because he focused his interviews on what this movie is about.

00:09:36.020 I don't know.

00:09:36.740 Please help me if you understand what she means here, what this nonsense of word salad is supposed to mean.

00:09:43.120 Then they ask some more interesting questions.

00:09:45.000 Was it just this idea that you and the other cast members and Colleen do press without him?

00:09:50.100 And then, of course, they cut off there so we don't get to know the answer to that.

00:09:54.920 And then Blake's attorney is asking her, how did Justin promote bullying towards you?

00:09:59.060 Given the online hate that I was getting, it seems like there was nothing being done to speak out against the bullying

00:10:06.320 that was happening to the women and the cast while he was going along with the rest of his press run.

00:10:12.340 And I assume anybody that was online would have seen what was going on.

00:10:16.980 So also from what I've gathered information-wise from people such as Blake, it was kind of assumed that due to hiring a PR crisis manager

00:10:27.780 that this kind of narrative was starting to get spun online.

00:10:33.140 There you have it.

00:10:34.960 Blake told Isabella that there was a smear campaign, that Justin was behind and he was behind all of this.

00:10:42.740 She basically convinced Isabella to believe that Justin was behind all the hate she was receiving.

00:10:49.840 And the crazy part is, Isabella believed her.

00:10:53.540 And then they ask, were you seeing any negative online comments about Justin?

00:10:57.280 No.

00:10:57.960 The only negativity that you saw was towards your fellow actors and myself and yourself.

00:11:06.360 Mainly me, she says.

00:11:07.840 Did Blake ever suggest to you that this movie is a girls' night out kind of movie?

00:11:12.980 No.

00:11:14.080 Then they talk about an alleged text message here where Isabella apparently said, 1.00

00:11:19.060 Justin has been playing all of this up because he knows he's about to get his shit exposed. 0.99

00:11:24.560 So he's hyping her up and then playing the victim at the same time. 0.99

00:11:29.520 What did you mean when you said Justin has been playing all of this up?

00:11:33.320 And she says, I think I meant, I think I meant the bullying and the narrative that was coming out after the premiere and after it was deemed by the public on social media that me and Blake and the rest of the cast didn't care about the real mess meaning of this movie.

00:11:51.040 And given this, again, lack of really like speaking up for any of us or taking or talking or coming up publicly to even defend not Blake, but even just me, I found it to be kind of in line with then him promoting himself and his voice opinions about DV and him being able to kind of be the only person to talk about that.

00:12:14.180 So it seemed to me that he was playing this narrative up that we don't care and he does.

00:12:21.020 So I wonder who told her that they're not allowed to talk about DV when they're promoting a movie about DV.

00:12:29.200 We'll get back to that.

00:12:30.280 And there's a lot of contradictions coming up very soon.

00:12:33.880 So the attorney is asking, do you know if Justin wanted to participate in the press with you?

00:12:40.140 I don't know, she says.

00:12:41.520 Do you know if he wanted to participate in press with Blake Lively?

00:12:45.960 I don't know, she says.

00:12:47.400 Do you know if he wanted to participate in press with Colin Hoover?

00:12:50.940 Yes.

00:12:52.280 Then they ask, did you speak with Justin as to why he was speaking on DV? 0.99

00:12:58.400 I mean, it's so dumb, these questions. 0.98

00:13:00.420 No, she says. 0.98

00:13:01.560 What is the basis for your opinion or your text that Justin was only speaking on DV to make everyone look bad?

00:13:08.520 That's basically what she was trying to do.

00:13:10.180 She thinks that Justin wanted everyone else in the cast to look bad and him to look good.

00:13:16.520 And that's why he told them not to talk about DV.

00:13:19.860 I think the opinion was based off of the context that I had gotten about the timing of when he decided to speak on it.

00:13:27.240 When we were told not to, and I think the studio I'm referencing is Wayfarer.

00:13:32.880 I think the studio I'm referencing is Wayfarer.

00:13:37.000 She thinks that she got a message from Wayfarer that she wasn't allowed to talk about DV during the promotion.

00:13:44.080 So I think the dichotomy of Wayfarer telling us to not speak on it and then Justin going and speaking on it kind of looked to me in conclusion like he was trying to make it look like we wouldn't want to talk about it.

00:13:59.300 I mean, I'm sorry, Isabella.

00:14:01.180 This deposition is such a mess.

00:14:04.760 And they ask, and was that anything more than an assumption on your part?

00:14:10.220 It was an educated guess.

00:14:12.560 How educated was that guess?

00:14:14.360 I'm sorry.

00:14:15.020 What went into you forming that educated guess?

00:14:18.140 And then she says, me being told that I couldn't speak on DV by this production company and then him going on speaking about it.

00:14:25.680 Anything other than that?

00:14:27.040 No.

00:14:27.440 So she does not know who supposedly told her that she was not allowed to talk about DV.

00:14:35.040 First, she's assuming that it's Wayfarer.

00:14:37.700 Then she's talking about the production company or the studio telling her this.

00:14:41.980 So she doesn't have her story straight here at all.

00:14:45.060 Then she's also claiming something here that I'd never heard before.

00:14:48.760 She's saying that Justin had made up a lie about Colin Hoover saying that she was in Baha'i, which I have never heard about before.

00:14:59.020 I don't know if you heard that, that he had said that Colin Hoover was a Baha'i, a part of the Baha'i faith.

00:15:04.900 And that's not true.

00:15:06.600 I haven't heard that before.

00:15:08.260 I don't know if it makes any sense to anyone.

00:15:10.260 But anyways, then we get to the really juicy part here.

00:15:13.600 And this is where Isabella really messes up. 1.00

00:15:16.260 And we know that she's not trustworthy because they talk about Book Bonanza, where Blake Lively showed her part of the cut in front of a big group of fans.

00:15:26.880 So who was present at Book Bonanza?

00:15:29.820 It was Blake Lively, Colin Hoover, Brendan Sklenor, and Isabella Ferrer.

00:15:35.280 And Isabella is asked here by the attorney why Justin Baldoni didn't join them.

00:15:41.500 And she said that because Colin Hoover first invited him and then she decided that she didn't want him to come.

00:15:50.220 Because she had had a dinner with Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heath when they complained about Blake and calling her a narcissist.

00:15:59.580 And she didn't like that.

00:16:01.180 So she decided to disinvite him from Book Bonanza.

00:16:04.980 So she's asked here by the attorney, who invited you to attend Book Bonanza?

00:16:09.100 Colleen, she says.

00:16:10.060 Mr. Baldoni did not attend Book Bonanza, correct?

00:16:13.620 Yes.

00:16:14.260 Do you know, do you have an understanding of why he did not attend?

00:16:19.000 Isabella says, Colleen expressed to me that he was meant to go.

00:16:22.920 And then due to the recent light of events that had happened with him, I think the dinner that they had, it seemed again the post-production conflict that was occurring.

00:16:33.140 Colleen didn't feel comfortable doing the festival with him anymore and so took him off of that.

00:16:40.760 I don't know if it was her especially taking him off, but I know that it was meant to be him and then it wasn't.

00:16:47.880 And then it was Blake and Brandon and then I was invited on.

00:16:51.400 So they're asking, Colleen expressed to you something to the effect that she wasn't comfortable with Mr. Baldoni attending Book Bonanza.

00:16:59.520 Yes.

00:17:00.140 So what they're trying to prove here is that everyone had a problem with Justin and that is why he wasn't invited.

00:17:07.540 But then, as I said, they keep contradicting each other.

00:17:11.560 I will share with you what Colleen Hoover said about this very shortly.

00:17:15.460 They continue to ask, and did she share with you that she wasn't comfortable with Mr. Baldoni attending Book Bonanza because of the behavior on set, as well as the dinner that she had been to with him?

00:17:26.700 Isabella says, yes.

00:17:27.660 And just the, I think the main thing that I remember having discomfort with is the fact that he had been lying about her religion and her religious faith and telling people that she was Baha'i and then she wasn't.

00:17:40.320 I think that was the main thing of her discomfort.

00:17:43.260 As I said, I never heard this before and I doubt that Justin would go and tell people that Colleen Hoover was Baha'i.

00:17:49.440 Why would you do that?

00:17:50.800 Please give us some evidence of that.

00:17:52.360 And then they're writing from a text here saying,

00:17:54.480 I know now that I will be doing a press event in Dallas with Colleen in Justin's place.

00:17:59.860 Colleen disinvited him.

00:18:02.480 That's a message that Isabella sent to someone.

00:18:04.840 Do you see that?

00:18:05.560 They say, yes, she says.

00:18:06.880 And does that refresh your recollection that Colleen disinvited Justin from attending Book Bonanza?

00:18:12.780 That was a bit of an assumption, she's now saying.

00:18:15.660 I can't say for sure, but from my recollection, I do think she definitely had a say in whether or not he was there.

00:18:22.000 And then they're asking, okay, are you aware of anyone else other than Miss Hoover uninviting Mr. Baldoni from Book Bonanza?

00:18:29.580 No.

00:18:30.240 Okay, so let's just quickly jump over to Colleen Hoover's deposition. 1.00

00:18:34.160 I'm obviously going to share more from that in another episode, but I just wanted to show you how her story is very different from Isabella's.

00:18:41.660 So the attorney here is asking Colleen, did you invite Miss Lively, Mrs. Lively to Book Bonanza?

00:18:46.600 Yes, she says.

00:18:48.180 Did you invite anyone else from the cast?

00:18:50.920 I believe everyone, she says.

00:18:52.420 Well, that's not true.

00:18:53.340 I only invited Justin initially.

00:18:55.220 Blake, Brandon, Scolinari, Isabella Ferrer, and Alex, who played Young Atlas.

00:18:58.760 And I believe I invited Jenny Slate.

00:19:02.020 Oh, so all of the main characters.

00:19:05.540 Yes.

00:19:06.560 And who actually went to Book Bonanza?

00:19:09.160 Blake, Lively, Justin.

00:19:10.680 No, not Justin.

00:19:12.220 Brandon, Scolinari, Isabella Ferrer.

00:19:13.760 Claire, why did Mr. Baldoni not go to Book Bonanza?

00:19:17.160 I believe because him and Blake didn't get along.

00:19:20.220 And so Sony or someone decided which one of them would go.

00:19:23.840 I'm not sure at this point.

00:19:26.440 Did anyone tell you why Mr. Lively did not go to Book Bonanza?

00:19:31.100 I'm trying to understand if your answer is speculation or you have some basis for making that statement.

00:19:37.060 Colleen says, I just knew he wasn't coming, but I can't remember why I knew that.

00:19:43.900 I know that he and Blake would not attend at the same time because at this point they wouldn't be together in the same location.

00:19:51.220 Then they asked, did Mrs. Lively ever tell you that she would not go to Book Bonanza if Mr. Baldoni was there?

00:19:58.020 And of course they cut it off there.

00:19:59.780 So she's never responding to that.

00:20:02.180 But my point here is that Colleen Hoover does not admit that she had anything to do with Justin not coming to Book Bonanza with them.

00:20:12.400 So who fed this information to Isabella Ferrer?

00:20:16.500 Who do you think told her that Colleen Hoover was the one who disinvited Justin?

00:20:23.440 So Blake is playing everyone here.

00:20:26.720 This is quite fascinating.

00:20:27.960 And this makes all of them such terrible witnesses because they can't keep their story straight.

00:20:33.300 It's so hard to keep a story straight when it's not true.

00:20:37.020 So remember that Isabella testified under oath that Wayfair parties or Wayfair studio was the ones who told her,

00:20:46.200 according to her recollection, that she shouldn't talk about DV when she promoted the movie.

00:20:52.040 Here she's asked again, who do you recall communicating to you, if anyone, how you were to market the film?

00:21:01.000 And she responds, I believe it was through Sony.

00:21:04.840 I don't really recall, to be honest.

00:21:07.120 I just remember showing up.

00:21:10.480 Isn't this interesting, you guys?

00:21:12.420 How is a jury going to believe anything coming from anyone that are Blake Lively's witnesses?

00:21:20.380 As I said, I'm overwhelmed with all this evidence coming out at once.

00:21:24.340 So I'm going to try to keep things a bit organized here.

00:21:27.380 So going through some of the different depositions in each episode.

00:21:30.620 I'll probably be making even more episodes than I usually do because there's so much going on.

00:21:36.420 And I don't want to miss out on anything important.

00:21:39.620 I do want to read something from Leslie Sloan's deposition in this episode.

00:21:43.240 Because I think that this says everything about her and who she is.

00:21:49.120 So listen to her argument here.

00:21:51.620 She's asked about the smear campaign.

00:21:54.420 This, I mean, yeah.

00:21:55.960 Okay, so here we go. 0.99

00:21:57.240 It's cut in the beginning here and it looks like she just called Melissa Nathan an asshole. 1.00

00:22:02.700 Because it says here, and did you call her an asshole? 0.99

00:22:05.080 Because according to James from the Daily Mail, she was leaking stories to him. 0.99

00:22:09.140 Then Leslie Sloan, Blake's publicist, is saying,

00:22:12.260 because as I was, I started earlier, I thought she was leaking the stories.

00:22:16.760 She thought she was leaking the stories.

00:22:19.420 Leaking or giving or what they use as their favorite words,

00:22:23.200 seeding or planting, Leslie says.

00:22:25.820 Who is they?

00:22:27.540 You said they your favorite words.

00:22:29.380 And then she says the publicists who were involved in this case.

00:22:32.640 All the other publicists than her, obviously.

00:22:35.880 Have you ever seeded a story?

00:22:38.560 Leslie says, no.

00:22:41.940 This is the best part.

00:22:43.900 Have you ever planted a story?

00:22:46.060 No.

00:22:46.640 And that's it on that page, I'm afraid.

00:22:50.100 But she's just saying that she never planted or seeded a story in the media.

00:22:55.780 That's her sworn statement.

00:22:58.860 And then they ask her,

00:23:00.200 how do you know that Justin Baldoni had anything to do with any negative press

00:23:05.000 that Ms. Lively was receiving as of August 13?

00:23:08.640 I base it on him hiring Melissa Nathan.

00:23:12.900 That's her answer.

00:23:14.560 She's saying that Justin automatically is guilty of planting stories because he hired

00:23:20.500 a crisis management expert.

00:23:22.560 Remember a few days ago when Blake Lively hired a crisis expert to deal with media?

00:23:27.860 The attorney that used to represent Jeffrey Epstein victims?

00:23:32.100 Yes, that's exactly what Leslie Sloan is referring to here. 0.89

00:23:35.480 So the attorney is asking, so you assume that because Justin Baldoni hired Melissa Nathan

00:23:39.700 that they had done something to plant or seed negative stories about Blake Lively?

00:23:44.160 Is that your testimony?

00:23:45.780 And she says, I can add to that by telling you,

00:23:48.840 Melissa Nathan shared with me that he did some things.

00:23:52.120 That's why she was brought in when we were on the phone when I was in Los Angeles.

00:23:57.280 So she spoke to Melissa Nathan and she had told her that Justin had done some things

00:24:03.680 and that's why she was hired.

00:24:06.200 Do you have an answer to my question?

00:24:08.360 The attorney says.

00:24:10.140 So I'm sorry, please repeat that, Leslie says.

00:24:14.040 So you assume that because Justin hired Melissa that they had done something to plant or seed

00:24:19.100 negative stories about Blake Lively?

00:24:21.020 That's your testimony.

00:24:23.360 And then she says, my testimony, I believe, I'm sorry, please just repeat that one more time.

00:24:28.960 I'm getting a little tired, so please repeat that.

00:24:31.820 Do you want a break?

00:24:34.040 We can have one, they say.

00:24:35.060 And she's like, I don't want to have a break.

00:24:36.560 And then he repeats the question again.

00:24:38.680 And she says, yes.

00:24:40.160 And I answered because he hired Melissa Nathan.

00:24:43.540 So you are assuming that because Justin hired Melissa,

00:24:46.540 that he had done anything to smear Blake Lively's reputation.

00:24:49.980 And then she says, I'm not assuming Melissa did share with me on a phone call that she was hired

00:24:56.120 to come in to clean his mess up, that he was lucky to have her. 1.00

00:25:00.620 He did some stupid things. 0.99

00:25:02.080 So yeah, she was hired to clean his mess up, meaning to help him with his reputation. 1.00

00:25:13.660 There's no way here where she said that she was hired to smear Blake. 1.00

00:25:17.920 Either she's really stupid or she's just trying to play stupid here. 1.00

00:25:22.600 I don't know. 1.00

00:25:23.440 I haven't made up my mind about that yet.

00:25:25.300 They keep pressuring her saying, did she tell you that she was going to seed or plant negative

00:25:30.720 press about Blake Lively on Justin's behalf?

00:25:34.820 And then she says, it was the opposite.

00:25:37.100 She told me she wasn't doing it.

00:25:40.420 Okay.

00:25:41.720 So again, what basis did you have to believe that Justin or Melissa had anything to do with

00:25:47.300 the negative press that Blake Lively was receiving as of August 13th?

00:25:51.120 And then she responds, my knowledge in the industry and the fact that

00:25:55.140 Melissa is a crisis manager.

00:25:57.780 So that automatically makes Justin guilty of smearing Blake.

00:26:04.080 Try to make any sense of that.

00:26:06.960 And then they're saying, you made an assumption, correct?

00:26:09.600 And then she says, no.

00:26:11.420 So what facts is this based on?

00:26:15.840 Facts that Melissa shared with me that he did make some mistakes and he did some things

00:26:21.200 that they, and that's why they brought her in.

00:26:23.960 Right.

00:26:24.400 You just testified that she didn't tell you that she was going to be doing anything to

00:26:28.560 seed or plant or create negative press about Blake.

00:26:32.420 And then she says, she didn't say she wasn't.

00:26:35.380 That's referring to my email.

00:26:37.140 And you'll pull at some point with her, text with her that's said that. 1.00

00:26:41.280 But no, she shared with me that Justin somewhat of an idiot and did stupid things. 1.00

00:26:46.660 And that's why she's here to clean them up. 1.00

00:26:48.840 So that's what I base this on.

00:26:50.220 I mean, is she, is something wrong with her?

00:26:54.280 And then they keep asking her.

00:26:55.440 So you assume because of Melissa Nathan.

00:26:58.240 And then she says, I don't assume.

00:27:00.400 This is what I'm basing it on.

00:27:02.240 Different word.

00:27:03.500 So this tells us how publicists work.

00:27:06.000 I mean, listening to this and how she's twisting or trying to twist anything around is just mind

00:27:11.880 blowing to me.

00:27:12.600 And then they ask, so because Melissa Nathan didn't tell you that she wouldn't plant negative

00:27:16.740 story, you just assume that she did.

00:27:19.260 I didn't say that.

00:27:20.140 I'll say it a third time because Melissa Nathan shared with me that he had done some

00:27:24.220 blah, blah, blah that is cut off.

00:27:26.940 I mean, seriously.

00:27:28.980 Then they ask her something about James.

00:27:31.420 James Yatushka is that journalist from the Daily Mail.

00:27:34.680 And they keep pressuring her on that.

00:27:37.000 And that is because we now have evidence that Leslie Sloan was talking to James Yatushka

00:27:42.740 over a Daily Mail.

00:27:43.920 There's a text exchange that I'll go through in another episode, which is very, very juicy.

00:27:49.280 A conversation between the Daily Mail reporter and Melissa Nathan, the way they talk about

00:27:53.260 Leslie Sloan and all the things that she's trying to plant. 0.99

00:27:55.880 And of course, Leslie Sloan doesn't know about these text messages at this point when she's

00:28:00.240 asked these questions.

00:28:01.060 And so that's why she's being very vague here.

00:28:03.740 And we don't know exactly the question here because it's cut off.

00:28:06.580 But she's saying, I feel the fact that you're asking me that question, that it's somewhere

00:28:09.920 here.

00:28:11.040 Why do you assume that they're asking?

00:28:13.020 And she says, because every time you ask me a question, you produce a document.

00:28:16.420 I've noticed your pattern.

00:28:18.120 I pick up on things and I'm not going to go get in trouble for this.

00:28:22.780 Whoa, she knows that she's on really thin eyes here. 1.00

00:28:27.520 And I have to say that this is Mr. Fritz, Justin Baldoni's attorney, is asking her these

00:28:32.940 questions.

00:28:33.420 I was wondering why Blake Lively's attorneys would pressure her like this.

00:28:37.360 But of course, this is Kevin Fritz asking her these questions.

00:28:41.880 Just keep that in mind.

00:28:43.100 I'm sorry there's so much material here.

00:28:45.520 There's so much.

00:28:46.300 And it's like, it's hard to keep my head straight.

00:28:48.520 But anyways, he continues to say, I'm happy to withdraw the question and move on.

00:28:52.740 It's not in any of the documents I've shown you so far.

00:28:55.400 And then she says, then thank you, please move on, because I can't answer that.

00:28:59.600 Then he asks her, did James from the Daily Mail ever tell you that Melissa Nathan had

00:29:03.820 not done anything anti-Blake?

00:29:05.660 Do you recall that?

00:29:07.420 Yes, she says.

00:29:08.720 Did you at the time have any reason to disbelieve him?

00:29:12.140 In that case, knowing their friendship, I questioned it, she said.

00:29:16.060 Remember, she said she never seeded or planted a story.

00:29:19.260 And then she is obvious here that she has a very close relationship to James over at Daily

00:29:24.480 Mail.

00:29:25.220 So then we're assuming that he only contacted her for like comments or something and isn't

00:29:30.500 really a comment also planting or seeding a story.

00:29:34.040 She keeps contradicting herself. 1.00

00:29:36.200 And she's so full of crap, this woman. 1.00

00:29:38.760 I can't believe how ridiculous this testimony is. 1.00

00:29:42.180 It's just she's saying she questioned if she could trust James over at Daily Mail. 0.82

00:29:46.360 She's saying it because Melissa Nathan had a very close relationship to the Daily Mail

00:29:50.440 and that her sister over the years had told me how close they were to all the women at

00:29:54.920 the Daily Mail.

00:29:56.260 Have you ever seen any documents, emails, text messages from Melissa to anyone demonstrating

00:30:00.540 that she caused anything negative to be written about Blake Lively?

00:30:05.720 And then she says, I've seen texts in the complaints that we can that made a reference

00:30:11.060 to a reporter that Jen Abel had or Jen Abel did both of them. 1.00

00:30:15.380 Um, yeah, I mean, that's the text messages that they used in the New York Times article.

00:30:22.440 So nothing new there.

00:30:23.820 She's not seen anything.

00:30:24.820 So this is the only part that we've seen so far of Leslie Sloan's deposition.

00:30:29.560 I thought that was just so telling.

00:30:31.540 She just continues to pretend she doesn't understand the question because she's never answering the

00:30:36.480 question.

00:30:37.340 She never managed to answer the question if she has any evidence or any reason to believe

00:30:42.540 that they planted any negative stories about Blake Lively.

00:30:46.000 She doesn't have it.

00:30:47.020 She hasn't produced any text messages, nothing, no emails, nothing that can support that narrative.

00:30:54.240 And this is where Blake Lively's claims are just collapsing again.

00:30:59.720 Okay, so I just have to mention a little part from this text exchange between Melissa Nathan

00:31:05.720 and James Vitushka over at Daily Mail when they talk about Leslie Sloan.

00:31:09.580 I'll get more into these texts, as I said, they're really juicy.

00:31:12.560 James is saying here that Leslie effed me hard this week on a story that she told me info

00:31:19.160 on.

00:31:19.900 And then Melissa is saying, you know the truth of it all.

00:31:22.200 And he says, then said sorry she lied and tried to get it taken down when she was the

00:31:27.880 source.

00:31:28.460 Then he says, Justin never essayed Blake.

00:31:32.760 She's trying to play victim to salvage her career and reputation after it went down the 1.00

00:31:38.520 drain because she's a bitch and everyone knows it. 1.00

00:31:42.220 She and Ryan tried to heist the movie and make it theirs when Ryan had no place doing 1.00

00:31:47.020 anything to begin with.

00:31:48.680 She talks about changing the scenes.

00:31:50.780 Ryan added a effing scene and rewrote it.

00:31:53.100 I'll get all of this out there tomorrow.

00:31:55.900 Anyways, I'll get more into these text messages.

00:31:58.200 Just wanted to point that out, that he is claiming here that Leslie Sloan lied to him

00:32:03.240 and then tried to kill a story afterwards.

00:32:06.080 Anyways, that's it for me today.

00:32:07.640 Or maybe I'll do another one later today.

00:32:09.640 I'm super excited to go through all of this.

00:32:11.700 And as I said, it takes some time to organize all of this in my head and to look through

00:32:17.080 everything and to find what's most important here.

00:32:20.180 Of course, we have to go through Jenny Slate's depositions and more from Colleen Hoover.

00:32:24.220 And also, there's a lot of text messages, as I said, between Blake and Justin here.

00:32:30.000 There's so much stuff.

00:32:32.140 There's 150 documents right now and there's going to be a lot more.

00:32:37.060 So I'll keep you posted and I'll try to stay as organized as possible so I can report on

00:32:43.920 this in a way that all of you understand.

00:32:46.040 So again, thank you so much for watching and thanks for subscribing.

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00:32:55.800 And I'll see you very soon.

00:32:57.720 Bye.

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - January 21, 2026

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