Everything Just Blew Up !!!
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It s been a year since that New York Times article was published and we still have not seen any evidence from Blake Lively. And she keeps redacting every document she files. And I ll go through some of the stuff that she filed on Friday.
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and she keeps redacting every document she files and I'll go through some of the stuff
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that she filed on Friday. This will blow your mind.
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Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Jashti Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and
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your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. First of all, happy one year anniversary to Blake
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Lively and Megan Thewey. It's been a year since that New York Times article was published and they
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ruined many people's Christmas and many people's lives and continue to do so today. And now it's
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been a year and we still have seen zero evidence from Blake Lively and she keeps redacting every
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document she files and I'll go through some of the stuff that she filed on Friday. This will blow
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your mind. It is insane what she's doing right now trying to convince people that her case and the
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facts are not important and instead everyone should just look at Justin Baldoni's attorneys
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because they are the real villains. So yes, I had to jump on her to talk about what they filed on Friday
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because I just like could believe it when I started reading this stuff. It's so much crap. Anyways,
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yesterday I got into a really interesting conversation with a producer here in LA.
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She was like, oh, have we met before? And this keeps happening these days, by the way, people think
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that they know me because they've seen my Blake Lively interview. So I said to her, I'm like,
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maybe you've seen my interview with Blake Lively? And she was like, yes, you are that reporter. You are
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that Blake Lively reporter. And she was like, thank you so much. I am so tired of these bullies in this
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town. And thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for your service. She was so sweet. And
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it was so amazing to hear that from someone here in the industry as well. And she said that Blake
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Lively has lost it. No one likes her. And then she said, Ryan Reynolds is a psychopath. Everyone knows
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he's psycho. And everyone knows that Blake Lively had a crush on Justin Baldoni. And that is why Ryan
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Reynolds got so jealous. And that's how this whole thing started. I was like, yes, I think so too.
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And then she also mentioned Blake Lively's body insecurities. And that also drove a lot of this
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conflict, which I also agree with. So yeah, it's just really nice when people in the industry
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also are engaged in this and agree with most of us. Because as we know by now, most people,
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if you read any comments online or discussions online, they're not really any people supporting Blake
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anymore. So every time they managed to get some article published like they did this weekend with
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Variety and then New York Post picked it up and Daily Mail, we know that the public doesn't believe
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any of the stuff that they read in the media anymore. Because you can look at the comment sections and
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people are like, stop this. This is BS. Why are you lying to us? Because that's exactly what happened
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now. This is so misleading. So let me try to explain this filing that happened on Friday.
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Blake Lively's lawyers love sanctions. They've loved to punish people. And I think they tried that about
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10 or 11 times now. That's what they do. And now I realize what this is all about. This is like a scheme
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just to get attention in the court docket. And then they send tips to the press. So what they did this
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Friday was they asked the judge for sanctions because they thought Baldoni's attorneys were acting
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inappropriate and rude during a deposition. And then they attached a lot of examples from other
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things to show that this was a pattern, that they were asking inappropriate questions. And then there
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was a big discussion about having a break or not having a break during a deposition. It's so random and
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it's so ridiculous. And it reminds me of kindergarten. So this whole discussion is basically about an
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expert witness. And I did speak about this last week because there was like this emergency hearing
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regarding an expert witness. So the judge had to interfere and they were like, hey judge, what are we
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going to do about this? And now we know what that was all about. This is about an expert witness that
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Justin Baldoni brought into this case. Her name is Nicole Alexander and she's a psychologist and
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specializes in body image disorder. So I think the reason why they brought her in was to share that
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you know, if Blake Lively was suffering psychologically from Baldoni, fat shaming her, asking her weight,
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you need a little bit more than that to suffer emotionally. And I think that's why this expert
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is brought in. I don't know yet. I'm just guessing because she is an expert in that specifically.
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So what they're saying in this filing is that several councils for Wayfair defendants,
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including attorney Kim Zeldin and Ellen Garofalo, have repeatedly engaged in improper
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argumentative speaking objections and insulting comments, despite multiple warnings by council
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for Ms. Lively and other parties, as well as non-compliant instructions not to answer questions.
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So they're basically accusing them for coaching this witness and for interrupting during the
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deposition. And now they want to have her for another hour. And they're saying to the judge that
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you should punish them for this. And then they attach this conversation that they had
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with the court about this, which was a public hearing that happened. And of course, Blake Lively's
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team redacted everything in that conversation when they filed this. And then they realized afterwards
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that, oops, this is actually a public hearing. So we have to unseal everything that we blackened out.
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So then they had to refile it. And we could actually see what had happened in this meeting,
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which was basically them complaining to the court and Baldoni's team saying, hey, that didn't really
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happen. And it was not a big deal. And to me, it seemed like more that the court was agreeing with
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Baldoni's attorneys here. So to make this look bad, which it didn't now that we've seen what actually
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happened, which they didn't count on, because they didn't want us to see that, that the court was
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actually agreeing more with Baldoni's team. They didn't say that, okay, this was improper, because it
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really wasn't. And now they're attaching all this other stuff from the past to prove that there's a
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pattern here that basically Baldoni's team is rude. And they're attaching one thing which they made the
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media pick up on, which ended up in this article in Variety, which it's so twisted, because remember,
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this happened back in September. This was an interview with an expert witness that they
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conducted in September. But the way that this article in Variety was written, it looks like it just
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happened. And it looked like these were questions asked to Blake Lively and not to a witness. It says
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in their headline, Blake Lively's lawyers blast Justin Baldoni's lawyers deposition behavior, say
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questions about her S history should be off limits. So they write here that we further write to address
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questions posed during certain depositions that probe into Ms. Lively's S or romantic history.
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There's so many words here I can't say on YouTube because then they demonetize me, which resulted in
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objection pursuant, also known as a word that rhymes with grape shield law. So she's using that law now.
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Ms. Lively's sexual and or romantic history has no bearing on the matters or at issue in this case,
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and we will not tolerate such examination. Doesn't that sound like they did this to Blake Lively?
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Well, they didn't. And why does the media pick this up now? So Variety writes this,
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the law straw apparently came on Monday when according to Lively's side, Friedman and co-counsel Kevin Fritz
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impended and delayed the deposition of Nicole Alexander, who is testifying as a defense expert.
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And why is Variety making a story about this now? To me, it seems like they just wanted to put these
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really serious words in there to again for Google or SEO to associate Justin Baldoni with these type
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of words. And the other examples they attached here to prove that his teams are bullies is this
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really long, I think it's nine pages long, this conversation that happened. And it's so ironic that
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it's Ellen Garofalo who's complaining about all of this. There is a conversation that she attached here
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that she had with Baldoni's attorneys during a deposition of Jamie Heath. Ellen Garofalo is the
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one who subpoenaed 107 content creators for covering this case. Keep that in mind. Anyway, so Jamie Heath is
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just sitting there. There's nothing to do with him. He ends up having to leave the room. But they
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have this discussion over nine pages transcript. So Ellen Garofalo say that we need to have a break
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now. Jamie Heath's attorney is saying, you know, it's only 10 minutes left. We've been here for seven
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hours. Why do you need a break now? Why don't you just continue talking? It's just nine minutes late.
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My client is tired. He's been sitting here all day and he's going to come back tomorrow for another
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seven hours and just get over with this so he can go home and have a little rest. Ellen Garofalo is
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like, no, we're going to have a break. And then she's saying, you're coaching the witness. And Jamie
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Heath's attorney is saying, no, I'm not doing that. Why can't we just skip this break? And I also have
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a statement that I want to say on the record right now. And then Ellen is like, no, I don't want you to
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use my nine minutes for this statement. And we need to go off the record now because I don't want
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you to eat up any of my nine minutes, even though I have seven more hours tomorrow. And he's saying,
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no, I want my statement to be on the record. And then they're like, oh, we're having a break. No,
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we're not having a break. And then they're like, Jamie Heath, you need to leave the room. So he leaves
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the room. It's just a big mess. And it goes on and on and on. I was laughing so hard when I was
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reading the whole document. I was like, is this really happening? Are these grown up people
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having this conversation? Anyway, so after nine pages of them going back and forth about having
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a break or not having a break, she allows, Blake Lively's attorney allows Jamie Heath's attorney
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to put a statement on the record. And here is that statement. As I've been saying, after we made clear
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that we're concerned about the breaks, we're concerned about the witness being tired. The
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next line of questioning had nothing to do with this case, but simply had to do with the client
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and his lawyer and trying to drive a wedge. And now the questioning lawyer wants to take yet another
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break. It's clear from the content of her questioning that she's no longer focused on the merit of the case
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and that she's conducted her substantive questioning. I don't see another need for a
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break. Think the deposition is practically over. The client is tired and has to go tomorrow. I think
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this is abusive. I think it's unnecessary. And I object. So basically they're accusing Blake Lively's
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attorneys here of asking irrelevant questions, which I've seen them do over and over again. And we know
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why they're doing that, because of course they don't have a case. They don't have any evidence. They have
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no facts. So they just need to try to build something around it. And here they're accusing them
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of trying to drive a wedge between Jamie Heath and the attorneys. And that's what they also have been
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trying to do this entire time, trying to paint them in a terrible light to make them look unethical
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and to make all the lawyers on that side look like villains. Their desperation is so obvious at this
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point. And with this filing, as I said, with all these attachments of these ridiculous things that
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they're saying, like, hey, look, there's a pattern here. And when you read it, there is no pattern.
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And as we've seen from Blake's team, we've seen the depositions of Justin Baldoni, of Jamie Heath.
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It's been a lot of it has been released. And we can see the line of questioning that Blake's attorney
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has been asking. They are really intrusive. So for them to say that they have been inappropriate here
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is just BS. So yeah, of course, the reason why they did this is just to get some press. And they did.
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Now we have to see if the judge actually allows them to interview this expert witness one more time,
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because they didn't get what they wanted from her, obviously. And the reason why they're making so much
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fuss about this, it's because they want to create an illusion that this witness is not trustworthy
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and that she's been coached. And that's really the only reason why they're doing all of this.
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It's just a game. This is just a chess game. And it makes me lose faith in the juridical system when
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you hear attorneys and the way they spend their time. I mean, they charge thousands of dollars per
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hour to sit and have these kind of conversations. And this is what happens when you rewrite an article
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from someone else and you don't actually look at the legal papers yourself. So the Daily Mail
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is reporting this. According to a December 19 letter sent to the U.S. District Court,
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Judge Lewis, Lyman Lively's lawyers are seeking sanctions over what they describe as repeated
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deposition misconduct by Baldoni's legal team. The filing reviewed by people. Why didn't you review
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yourself? Anyways, on Saturday, alleges that the opposing counsel asked the actress questions about
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her sexual and romantic history and engaged in behavior her attorneys say were inappropriate
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and irrelevant to the case. They didn't ask the actress these questions. They asked an expert
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witness these questions. Anyways, another interesting article that just popped up this weekend was from
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People Magazine. You know, everyone's like, oh, it's a year after the bombshell lawsuit dropped, blah,
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blah, blah, blah. And they've spoken to a legal expert here. And I don't know about this legal
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expert's background or anything, but it seems like he thinks that he knows what he's talking about.
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I'm not too sure about it. I feel like so many legal experts are coming out, having opinions about this
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and what's going to happen. And then a few months later, we're all like, well, that didn't really
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happen. So I guess he's just guessing like everyone else. This legal expert's name is Benjamin White.
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And he's basically saying that he thinks this is going to go to court, that there will be no ruling.
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I think it's January 22nd that the judge is supposed to rule on the summary judgment
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that Justin Baldoni filed about a month ago. And this attorney is saying that there has been a
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massive amount of intermediate fighting and over things like discovery. There are over 1,000 entries
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on the docket for a case that's only been around for a year. That's an enormous amount of litigation.
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And he's saying that he doesn't think that they can agree on anything. It's very unlikely that they
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will come to an agreement and that there will be a settlement. It also says here that they are
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encouraged, really encouraged to be there in person during this settlement meeting.
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I wish I could be a fly on the wall when they all meet in person. Can you imagine Justin seeing Blake
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again? It also says here that the jury selection is expected to begin in April and that the trial
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is expected to run for about a month. And we know that it's been moved from March to May.
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And he also says that it's hard to judge how egregious the underlying evidence is
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when so much of it is redacted. Good point. Have you ever heard about anyone who's suing someone for
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something and then they're hiding all their evidence? It makes sense of that. I just don't
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get it. He's saying here that he thinks he's going to go to court because both sides want to tell their
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side of the story. And he says each side wants his version of events to be the one that people believe.
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I think we already know who we believe here. But anyways, a settlement can leave everyone unhappy on
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that front, which is why cases like this often go to trial. If the case were to settle,
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White says it would be likely invoke carefully negotiated public statements. These usually
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aren't full apologies. They're more about expressing a desire to move on. Every word gets negotiated.
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I really hope this doesn't get settled. If it goes to court, I will be in New York. I will go to New
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York and be there during this entire trial to be a fly on the wall and hopefully get access into the
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courtroom as well. Anyways, this was kind of a big mess. I tried to record this episode a couple of
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times because I couldn't figure out how to actually explain this because I think it's so stupid. And I
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think that's the whole point of this. It's just to confuse people and it's to feed the press with
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headlines that they know are clickable because they're using these kind of words. And of course,
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now that we've seen what Blake Lively is up to, and now we've seen when she keeps redacting all the
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documents she's filing and when they get unsealed, there's nothing there. So we know there's going to
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be a huge pile of documents that's going to be unsealed in the next year, in the beginning of next
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year, which I'm super excited about, of course, and I hope you are too. So yes, I think this is like
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they're in complete panic mode right now. And I think it's quite funny to watch it unravel.
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Anyway, that's it for me, you guys. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Thank you so much for
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