Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Everything Just Blew Up !!!

00:00:00.000 and she keeps redacting every document she files and I'll go through some of the stuff

00:00:05.600 that she filed on Friday. This will blow your mind.

00:00:14.400 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Jashti Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and

00:00:18.800 your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. First of all, happy one year anniversary to Blake

00:00:25.360 Lively and Megan Thewey. It's been a year since that New York Times article was published and they

00:00:31.800 ruined many people's Christmas and many people's lives and continue to do so today. And now it's

00:00:38.880 been a year and we still have seen zero evidence from Blake Lively and she keeps redacting every

00:00:45.440 document she files and I'll go through some of the stuff that she filed on Friday. This will blow

00:00:51.900 your mind. It is insane what she's doing right now trying to convince people that her case and the 0.99

00:00:59.020 facts are not important and instead everyone should just look at Justin Baldoni's attorneys

00:01:03.920 because they are the real villains. So yes, I had to jump on her to talk about what they filed on Friday

00:01:10.060 because I just like could believe it when I started reading this stuff. It's so much crap. Anyways,

00:01:16.940 yesterday I got into a really interesting conversation with a producer here in LA.

00:01:21.420 She was like, oh, have we met before? And this keeps happening these days, by the way, people think

00:01:26.580 that they know me because they've seen my Blake Lively interview. So I said to her, I'm like,

00:01:31.420 maybe you've seen my interview with Blake Lively? And she was like, yes, you are that reporter. You are

00:01:36.380 that Blake Lively reporter. And she was like, thank you so much. I am so tired of these bullies in this

00:01:44.800 town. And thank you from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for your service. She was so sweet. And

00:01:50.720 it was so amazing to hear that from someone here in the industry as well. And she said that Blake

00:01:58.620 Lively has lost it. No one likes her. And then she said, Ryan Reynolds is a psychopath. Everyone knows

00:02:05.220 he's psycho. And everyone knows that Blake Lively had a crush on Justin Baldoni. And that is why Ryan

00:02:11.640 Reynolds got so jealous. And that's how this whole thing started. I was like, yes, I think so too.

00:02:17.680 And then she also mentioned Blake Lively's body insecurities. And that also drove a lot of this

00:02:22.840 conflict, which I also agree with. So yeah, it's just really nice when people in the industry

00:02:28.060 also are engaged in this and agree with most of us. Because as we know by now, most people,

00:02:35.900 if you read any comments online or discussions online, they're not really any people supporting Blake

00:02:41.480 anymore. So every time they managed to get some article published like they did this weekend with

00:02:47.700 Variety and then New York Post picked it up and Daily Mail, we know that the public doesn't believe

00:02:54.920 any of the stuff that they read in the media anymore. Because you can look at the comment sections and

00:03:00.760 people are like, stop this. This is BS. Why are you lying to us? Because that's exactly what happened

00:03:07.020 now. This is so misleading. So let me try to explain this filing that happened on Friday.

00:03:13.600 Blake Lively's lawyers love sanctions. They've loved to punish people. And I think they tried that about

00:03:19.620 10 or 11 times now. That's what they do. And now I realize what this is all about. This is like a scheme

00:03:26.100 just to get attention in the court docket. And then they send tips to the press. So what they did this

00:03:33.960 Friday was they asked the judge for sanctions because they thought Baldoni's attorneys were acting

00:03:41.000 inappropriate and rude during a deposition. And then they attached a lot of examples from other

00:03:48.960 things to show that this was a pattern, that they were asking inappropriate questions. And then there

00:03:56.240 was a big discussion about having a break or not having a break during a deposition. It's so random and

00:04:02.940 it's so ridiculous. And it reminds me of kindergarten. So this whole discussion is basically about an

00:04:09.920 expert witness. And I did speak about this last week because there was like this emergency hearing

00:04:15.260 regarding an expert witness. So the judge had to interfere and they were like, hey judge, what are we

00:04:21.240 going to do about this? And now we know what that was all about. This is about an expert witness that

00:04:26.140 Justin Baldoni brought into this case. Her name is Nicole Alexander and she's a psychologist and

00:04:32.960 specializes in body image disorder. So I think the reason why they brought her in was to share that

00:04:39.920 you know, if Blake Lively was suffering psychologically from Baldoni, fat shaming her, asking her weight,

00:04:48.200 you need a little bit more than that to suffer emotionally. And I think that's why this expert

00:04:53.200 is brought in. I don't know yet. I'm just guessing because she is an expert in that specifically. 0.53

00:05:00.080 So what they're saying in this filing is that several councils for Wayfair defendants,

00:05:04.920 including attorney Kim Zeldin and Ellen Garofalo, have repeatedly engaged in improper

00:05:11.100 argumentative speaking objections and insulting comments, despite multiple warnings by council

00:05:17.840 for Ms. Lively and other parties, as well as non-compliant instructions not to answer questions.

00:05:24.220 So they're basically accusing them for coaching this witness and for interrupting during the

00:05:32.080 deposition. And now they want to have her for another hour. And they're saying to the judge that

00:05:37.720 you should punish them for this. And then they attach this conversation that they had

00:05:42.620 with the court about this, which was a public hearing that happened. And of course, Blake Lively's

00:05:49.500 team redacted everything in that conversation when they filed this. And then they realized afterwards

00:05:56.860 that, oops, this is actually a public hearing. So we have to unseal everything that we blackened out.

00:06:03.340 So then they had to refile it. And we could actually see what had happened in this meeting,

00:06:07.700 which was basically them complaining to the court and Baldoni's team saying, hey, that didn't really

00:06:13.400 happen. And it was not a big deal. And to me, it seemed like more that the court was agreeing with

00:06:19.360 Baldoni's attorneys here. So to make this look bad, which it didn't now that we've seen what actually

00:06:25.980 happened, which they didn't count on, because they didn't want us to see that, that the court was

00:06:30.860 actually agreeing more with Baldoni's team. They didn't say that, okay, this was improper, because it

00:06:35.840 really wasn't. And now they're attaching all this other stuff from the past to prove that there's a

00:06:42.240 pattern here that basically Baldoni's team is rude. And they're attaching one thing which they made the

00:06:49.780 media pick up on, which ended up in this article in Variety, which it's so twisted, because remember,

00:06:58.160 this happened back in September. This was an interview with an expert witness that they

00:07:05.640 conducted in September. But the way that this article in Variety was written, it looks like it just

00:07:12.600 happened. And it looked like these were questions asked to Blake Lively and not to a witness. It says

00:07:19.480 in their headline, Blake Lively's lawyers blast Justin Baldoni's lawyers deposition behavior, say

00:07:25.080 questions about her S history should be off limits. So they write here that we further write to address

00:07:32.000 questions posed during certain depositions that probe into Ms. Lively's S or romantic history.

00:07:39.280 There's so many words here I can't say on YouTube because then they demonetize me, which resulted in

00:07:44.080 objection pursuant, also known as a word that rhymes with grape shield law. So she's using that law now.

00:07:53.680 Ms. Lively's sexual and or romantic history has no bearing on the matters or at issue in this case,

00:08:00.020 and we will not tolerate such examination. Doesn't that sound like they did this to Blake Lively?

00:08:06.500 Well, they didn't. And why does the media pick this up now? So Variety writes this,

00:08:12.260 the law straw apparently came on Monday when according to Lively's side, Friedman and co-counsel Kevin Fritz

00:08:18.580 impended and delayed the deposition of Nicole Alexander, who is testifying as a defense expert.

00:08:24.900 And why is Variety making a story about this now? To me, it seems like they just wanted to put these

00:08:30.500 really serious words in there to again for Google or SEO to associate Justin Baldoni with these type

00:08:37.940 of words. And the other examples they attached here to prove that his teams are bullies is this

00:08:44.340 really long, I think it's nine pages long, this conversation that happened. And it's so ironic that

00:08:51.140 it's Ellen Garofalo who's complaining about all of this. There is a conversation that she attached here

00:08:57.940 that she had with Baldoni's attorneys during a deposition of Jamie Heath. Ellen Garofalo is the

00:09:05.540 one who subpoenaed 107 content creators for covering this case. Keep that in mind. Anyway, so Jamie Heath is

00:09:13.620 just sitting there. There's nothing to do with him. He ends up having to leave the room. But they

00:09:18.420 have this discussion over nine pages transcript. So Ellen Garofalo say that we need to have a break 0.99

00:09:27.060 now. Jamie Heath's attorney is saying, you know, it's only 10 minutes left. We've been here for seven

00:09:31.780 hours. Why do you need a break now? Why don't you just continue talking? It's just nine minutes late.

00:09:37.860 My client is tired. He's been sitting here all day and he's going to come back tomorrow for another

00:09:43.140 seven hours and just get over with this so he can go home and have a little rest. Ellen Garofalo is 1.00

00:09:49.300 like, no, we're going to have a break. And then she's saying, you're coaching the witness. And Jamie

00:09:55.140 Heath's attorney is saying, no, I'm not doing that. Why can't we just skip this break? And I also have

00:09:59.860 a statement that I want to say on the record right now. And then Ellen is like, no, I don't want you to 0.92

00:10:05.700 use my nine minutes for this statement. And we need to go off the record now because I don't want

00:10:12.900 you to eat up any of my nine minutes, even though I have seven more hours tomorrow. And he's saying,

00:10:19.220 no, I want my statement to be on the record. And then they're like, oh, we're having a break. No,

00:10:24.500 we're not having a break. And then they're like, Jamie Heath, you need to leave the room. So he leaves

00:10:28.020 the room. It's just a big mess. And it goes on and on and on. I was laughing so hard when I was

00:10:34.660 reading the whole document. I was like, is this really happening? Are these grown up people

00:10:40.820 having this conversation? Anyway, so after nine pages of them going back and forth about having

00:10:47.220 a break or not having a break, she allows, Blake Lively's attorney allows Jamie Heath's attorney

00:10:54.100 to put a statement on the record. And here is that statement. As I've been saying, after we made clear

00:11:01.040 that we're concerned about the breaks, we're concerned about the witness being tired. The

00:11:05.680 next line of questioning had nothing to do with this case, but simply had to do with the client

00:11:12.080 and his lawyer and trying to drive a wedge. And now the questioning lawyer wants to take yet another

00:11:19.120 break. It's clear from the content of her questioning that she's no longer focused on the merit of the case

00:11:26.320 and that she's conducted her substantive questioning. I don't see another need for a

00:11:30.960 break. Think the deposition is practically over. The client is tired and has to go tomorrow. I think

00:11:37.120 this is abusive. I think it's unnecessary. And I object. So basically they're accusing Blake Lively's

00:11:42.640 attorneys here of asking irrelevant questions, which I've seen them do over and over again. And we know

00:11:48.160 why they're doing that, because of course they don't have a case. They don't have any evidence. They have

00:11:52.560 no facts. So they just need to try to build something around it. And here they're accusing them

00:11:58.000 of trying to drive a wedge between Jamie Heath and the attorneys. And that's what they also have been

00:12:02.800 trying to do this entire time, trying to paint them in a terrible light to make them look unethical

00:12:09.760 and to make all the lawyers on that side look like villains. Their desperation is so obvious at this

00:12:16.880 point. And with this filing, as I said, with all these attachments of these ridiculous things that

00:12:23.120 they're saying, like, hey, look, there's a pattern here. And when you read it, there is no pattern.

00:12:28.480 And as we've seen from Blake's team, we've seen the depositions of Justin Baldoni, of Jamie Heath.

00:12:35.120 It's been a lot of it has been released. And we can see the line of questioning that Blake's attorney

00:12:40.640 has been asking. They are really intrusive. So for them to say that they have been inappropriate here

00:12:46.560 is just BS. So yeah, of course, the reason why they did this is just to get some press. And they did.

00:12:53.040 Now we have to see if the judge actually allows them to interview this expert witness one more time,

00:12:58.800 because they didn't get what they wanted from her, obviously. And the reason why they're making so much

00:13:04.320 fuss about this, it's because they want to create an illusion that this witness is not trustworthy

00:13:09.680 and that she's been coached. And that's really the only reason why they're doing all of this.

00:13:13.920 It's just a game. This is just a chess game. And it makes me lose faith in the juridical system when

00:13:20.000 you hear attorneys and the way they spend their time. I mean, they charge thousands of dollars per

00:13:26.800 hour to sit and have these kind of conversations. And this is what happens when you rewrite an article

00:13:34.000 from someone else and you don't actually look at the legal papers yourself. So the Daily Mail

00:13:39.520 is reporting this. According to a December 19 letter sent to the U.S. District Court,

00:13:43.920 Judge Lewis, Lyman Lively's lawyers are seeking sanctions over what they describe as repeated

00:13:50.480 deposition misconduct by Baldoni's legal team. The filing reviewed by people. Why didn't you review

00:13:57.920 yourself? Anyways, on Saturday, alleges that the opposing counsel asked the actress questions about

00:14:06.400 her sexual and romantic history and engaged in behavior her attorneys say were inappropriate

00:14:11.840 and irrelevant to the case. They didn't ask the actress these questions. They asked an expert 0.58

00:14:18.880 witness these questions. Anyways, another interesting article that just popped up this weekend was from

00:14:24.800 People Magazine. You know, everyone's like, oh, it's a year after the bombshell lawsuit dropped, blah,

00:14:31.040 blah, blah, blah. And they've spoken to a legal expert here. And I don't know about this legal

00:14:35.840 expert's background or anything, but it seems like he thinks that he knows what he's talking about.

00:14:40.800 I'm not too sure about it. I feel like so many legal experts are coming out, having opinions about this

00:14:46.240 and what's going to happen. And then a few months later, we're all like, well, that didn't really

00:14:50.400 happen. So I guess he's just guessing like everyone else. This legal expert's name is Benjamin White.

00:14:56.560 And he's basically saying that he thinks this is going to go to court, that there will be no ruling.

00:15:01.120 I think it's January 22nd that the judge is supposed to rule on the summary judgment

00:15:05.440 that Justin Baldoni filed about a month ago. And this attorney is saying that there has been a

00:15:11.840 massive amount of intermediate fighting and over things like discovery. There are over 1,000 entries

00:15:18.740 on the docket for a case that's only been around for a year. That's an enormous amount of litigation.

00:15:24.020 And he's saying that he doesn't think that they can agree on anything. It's very unlikely that they

00:15:30.180 will come to an agreement and that there will be a settlement. It also says here that they are

00:15:37.620 encouraged, really encouraged to be there in person during this settlement meeting.

00:15:45.220 I wish I could be a fly on the wall when they all meet in person. Can you imagine Justin seeing Blake

00:15:51.300 again? It also says here that the jury selection is expected to begin in April and that the trial

00:15:58.340 is expected to run for about a month. And we know that it's been moved from March to May.

00:16:05.460 And he also says that it's hard to judge how egregious the underlying evidence is

00:16:10.260 when so much of it is redacted. Good point. Have you ever heard about anyone who's suing someone for

00:16:17.300 something and then they're hiding all their evidence? It makes sense of that. I just don't

00:16:22.820 get it. He's saying here that he thinks he's going to go to court because both sides want to tell their

00:16:28.100 side of the story. And he says each side wants his version of events to be the one that people believe.

00:16:34.900 I think we already know who we believe here. But anyways, a settlement can leave everyone unhappy on

00:16:40.260 that front, which is why cases like this often go to trial. If the case were to settle,

00:16:45.780 White says it would be likely invoke carefully negotiated public statements. These usually

00:16:52.260 aren't full apologies. They're more about expressing a desire to move on. Every word gets negotiated.

00:17:00.660 I really hope this doesn't get settled. If it goes to court, I will be in New York. I will go to New

00:17:05.300 York and be there during this entire trial to be a fly on the wall and hopefully get access into the

00:17:11.620 courtroom as well. Anyways, this was kind of a big mess. I tried to record this episode a couple of

00:17:17.300 times because I couldn't figure out how to actually explain this because I think it's so stupid. And I

00:17:24.180 think that's the whole point of this. It's just to confuse people and it's to feed the press with

00:17:29.060 headlines that they know are clickable because they're using these kind of words. And of course,

00:17:34.020 now that we've seen what Blake Lively is up to, and now we've seen when she keeps redacting all the

00:17:40.180 documents she's filing and when they get unsealed, there's nothing there. So we know there's going to

00:17:46.340 be a huge pile of documents that's going to be unsealed in the next year, in the beginning of next

00:17:52.100 year, which I'm super excited about, of course, and I hope you are too. So yes, I think this is like

00:17:58.980 they're in complete panic mode right now. And I think it's quite funny to watch it unravel.

00:18:05.620 Anyway, that's it for me, you guys. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Thank you so much for

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 23, 2025

Everything Just Blew Up !!!

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