Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - September 18, 2026


Hugh Jackman's girlfriend can't stand Blake Lively

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Sidney Sweeney controversy
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Kjersti Flaa
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Tom Cruise Ryan Reynolds Taylor Swift Hugh Jackman Sidney Sweeney Sutton Foster Oscar Blake Lively Honeylove Square Travis Nicole Kidman Flossom Talk Lauren DeMoss Benson Kenneth Branagh Energizer Bunny David Miscavige Anna Kendrick Cloud Embrace Katie Holmes and 10 more
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00:00:00.000 I mean, there have been some speculations that there is more than just friendship between the
00:00:05.120 two of them.
00:00:10.520 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, I'm Zach D. Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:14.940 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, is Hugh Jackman's girlfriend
00:00:23.140 Sutton Foster putting pressure on him to break up with Ryan Reynolds? It certainly looks like
00:00:29.980 it. Insiders are speaking out about how far Hugh Jackman's loyalty goes when it comes to Ryan and
00:00:37.660 Blake. And let's look at Tom Cruise and Taylor Swift's very strategic friendship. Is Tom using
00:00:45.200 Taylor as an armor and as a protector during this very vulnerable time when he's promoting
00:00:51.080 his movie and aiming for an Oscar? We all know how brutal those campaigns can be. And is Taylor
00:00:58.420 using Tom to get her husband into Hollywood. Let's look at that and also let's talk about
00:01:05.200 why Tom Cruise decided to have an open shirt at that GQ cover. And women are being criticized 1.00
00:01:13.380 and attacked all over the internet for criticizing Sydney Sweeney's ad. And apparently the reason why 1.00
00:01:20.880 women are criticizing her is because they're jealous and ugly. How ironic is it that the people 0.94
00:01:27.580 who are being criticized for criticizing Sydney Sweeney
00:01:33.200 for objectifying women's bodies
00:01:35.800 are being objectified for doing that.
00:01:39.260 But who are the real winners and losers here?
00:01:41.600 Let's talk about that.
00:01:42.760 And also a big thank you to everyone
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00:01:56.300 is. I'll leave a link below to that as well if you're interested. Okay, so let's get into it.
00:02:00.920 According to this report, Sutton Foster, Hugh Jackman's new girlfriend, is not friends with
00:02:08.300 Blake Lively and she doesn't want Hugh Jackman to be friends with Ryan Reynolds anymore. It says
00:02:14.400 here, not having it. Sutton Foster's ultimatum to Hugh Jackman amid Ryan and Blake drama. According
00:02:21.800 to Hollywood insiders, Sutton and Blake don't get along and it's causing issues for close friends
00:02:28.360 Hugh and Ryan. There are no photos of Blake Lively and Sutton Foster together and I find that very
00:02:35.320 telling. They are not hanging out. It would be the most natural thing in the world for them to go
00:02:40.580 double dating but they're not doing that. And that's obviously because Sutton Foster doesn't
00:02:44.840 want anything to do with this extremely toxic couple. It says here that Hugh and Ryan's bromance
00:02:50.800 has been going strong for coming up two decades but the friendship could have an expiration date
00:02:56.960 if Hugh's girlfriend has anything to say about it. It was interesting because I spoke to a publicist
00:03:03.300 about that and she told me like if I was Hugh Jackman's publicist I would tell him to stay
00:03:09.260 far far away from Ryan Reynolds in the public space. At least you know you can be friends
00:03:15.520 behind the scenes but don't show it publicly but Hugh Jackman is not listening to advice but he
00:03:21.840 might listen to his new girlfriend Sutton Foster it says here according to insiders Sutton has been
00:03:27.980 putting the hard word on Hugh to distance himself from his longtime friend and co-star and the
00:03:34.680 personal baggage he brings with him which is largely due to his wife Blake Lively's ongoing
00:03:40.380 career dramas. Sutton and Blake don't get on and combined with the fact that Blake's recent legal
00:03:46.680 issues have affected Ryan's career Sutton's right to be fearful of Hugh hanging out with Ryan
00:03:51.900 as source tells Women's Daily. As you know Hugh has been by Ryan's side throughout this entire
00:03:58.140 legal drama. He's the only A-lister who's actually stuck with this couple. Any other stars who's
00:04:05.520 been photographed with them the last couple of years the only reason they've been by their side
00:04:11.360 is because they were promoting projects and they were under contract to do so like Anna Kendrick
00:04:16.520 had to do that with another simple favor and of course Kenneth Branagh had to do that with Ryan
00:04:22.260 Reynolds as well because they have the Mayday movie on Apple TV together and it says here that
00:04:27.740 Hugh's not having any of it of course he's always been a loyal friend has seen so many of his
00:04:32.660 close mates go through hell and he's always stood by them. The insider says of the men who traveled
00:04:38.600 to Spain together recently for the celebrity sail GP boat race. He knows Ryan's not doing so well
00:04:45.540 and wants to help him get through this no matter who it upsets. So is he willing to sacrifice his
00:04:51.880 relationship with Sutton Foster to hang out with Ryan Reynolds? I find that very suspicious if he's
00:04:59.420 doing that if he's choosing Ryan over Sutton. I mean there have been some speculations that there
00:05:05.880 is more than just friendship between the two of them and if that happens I don't know what to
00:05:10.860 believe anymore. So now we have to see if Hugh Jackman is willing to sacrifice his relationship
00:05:16.140 with Sutton for Ryan Reynolds. It says here that it's not the answer Sutton wants to hear especially
00:05:23.920 since there's no love lost between her and Blake.
00:05:28.140 They've been rumoured the Broadway actress and the Hollywood star have no real affinity
00:05:32.860 and haven't been able to forge a connection despite their partner spending so much time
00:05:38.320 together.
00:05:39.160 Even going on the occasional double date hasn't helped Sutton and Blake break the ice.
00:05:44.240 Okay, so they might have been on a double date here apparently.
00:05:47.500 I'm sure that when they started dating, she was introducing her to Blake and Ryan, but
00:05:52.940 who knows how many times after that, that that happened.
00:05:55.640 A source said last year,
00:05:57.080 when it comes to Blake one-on-one with Sutton,
00:05:59.580 they've never had a deep and meaningful friendship.
00:06:02.360 I wonder who planted this story.
00:06:04.920 Is this coming from Hugh Jackman's camp?
00:06:07.680 And is this a way to say, you know,
00:06:11.020 he's just such a loyal friend.
00:06:13.500 So that's why he's not breaking up with Ryan,
00:06:16.280 but his partner doesn't like Blake lively.
00:06:20.160 So he also gets that out there.
00:06:22.280 So yeah, who do you think planted this story?
00:06:25.420 Anyways, let's get to Tom Cruise's friendship with Taylor Swift.
00:06:30.440 So Blake now has been replaced by Tom Cruise, apparently.
00:06:34.020 This is quite interesting, the two of them teaming up here, especially now.
00:06:39.960 As I said yesterday in my lengthy video about Tom Cruise,
00:06:44.260 he has just started a huge Oscar campaign for his movie Digger.
00:06:50.820 He hasn't done a campaign like this for years because he's only made action movies.
00:06:57.280 He's never had to go out there and sell something the way he's selling this movie right now.
00:07:03.100 And when he's doing that, this happens every year throughout the Oscar campaigns.
00:07:10.360 Publicists are brutal. 0.99
00:07:12.280 They're dirty. 0.98
00:07:13.140 They're trying to dig up stuff about the other contenders. 0.73
00:07:17.460 and somehow it leaks online and when they manage to put another actor in a bad light
00:07:25.540 there is a bigger chance that the actor that they're representing is going to go home with
00:07:32.380 that Oscar and of course that is going to give them money. So the Oscar is a big money game and
00:07:39.580 Tom Cruise knows this and he knows that he's risking a lot putting himself out there like
00:07:44.560 this and as I mentioned yesterday he started off this Oscar race by opening up in this in-depth
00:07:51.460 interview in GQ where he says absolutely nothing but he does say something with this cover so he
00:07:59.520 did open his shirt and the reason why he did that was one because he wants everyone to see he's not
00:08:06.840 old he's still in great shape we know he's 64 but look what a great shape he is in so don't think
00:08:14.160 that he is going anywhere and he's still an action star, although in this movie he plays
00:08:19.280 something very different. Another reason for opening up his shirt like that is because he
00:08:24.700 wants us to believe that we actually get to know more about who Tom Cruise is. Look at that, he's
00:08:32.840 showing some vulnerability and at the same time we're supposed to think that he's sexy. There's
00:08:39.300 something extremely asexual about Tom Cruise I don't know what it is I don't think it has anything
00:08:44.500 to do with his age but it's just something really really off about this cover and according to Rob
00:08:51.080 Shooter an insider shared with him that Tom was of course in control of everything here he's in
00:08:57.840 control of every single detail with everything that he does we know that and he heard that Tom 0.78
00:09:03.620 wanted sexy masculine and movie star hot but absolutely no nipples he says here that he
00:09:12.740 controls every frame with Tom Cruise even looking spontaneous is carefully planned yes we know that
00:09:17.940 and there was even a firmer boundary that this journalist was not allowed to ask Tom Cruise
00:09:22.460 and that was about Suri she was off limits as I spoke about in length yesterday Tom Cruise
00:09:31.200 pretends that he's sitting down for this exclusive in-depth interview finally opening up about
00:09:37.860 whatever and he's not saying anything nothing we learned absolutely nothing about Tom Cruise in
00:09:44.500 that interview so that brings me to Tom Cruise aligning himself with Taylor Swift as I mentioned
00:09:51.280 yesterday as well there were pictures of Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise everywhere a few days ago
00:09:58.600 They were photographed in the NFL suite on Monday together and everyone was like, look who's friends here.
00:10:08.380 This is so amazing.
00:10:09.940 Anyways, Daily Mail did this story today that I found pretty interesting.
00:10:15.520 They're saying, secret Tom Cruise phone call that made Taylor Swift roll out the red carpet.
00:10:21.880 Backstage meeting that left her overwhelmed.
00:10:24.840 and the one conversation topic that's totally off-limit inside Hollywood's most A-list new
00:10:32.860 friendship. So apparently it says here that Tom Cruise people called Taylor Swift's people in
00:10:39.160 2024 to get him tickets to her concert and then he went backstage afterwards and congratulated her
00:10:46.420 and Taylor was like whoa got a little starstruck and from then on they created this kind of
00:10:53.580 friendship and then taylor introduced tom to her then fiance or boyfriend travis kelsey and the two
00:11:01.320 of them were seen joking around at the wembley together so it's obvious that they're also really
00:11:07.540 good friends i wouldn't be surprised if tom cruise shows up at travis kelsey's podcast in the very
00:11:14.720 near future by the way anyways it says here that it's been two years of friendship since the eras
00:11:20.960 tour and people online have been speculating what this friendship really means and the internet's
00:11:27.400 wildest theories here according to the daily mail is that this unlikely pairing is a hush hush
00:11:33.560 business venture a days of thunder sequel cameo or cruise pitching scientology to pop's most
00:11:41.320 powerful woman according to an insider here the two of them have a very close bond they had they
00:11:47.900 They hang out together when they're in the same city.
00:11:50.700 On the surface, they seem like they're worlds apart, but they're really not.
00:11:56.480 Their bond has only strengthened as they have discovered they share a rare understanding of life at the very top.
00:12:03.720 They have so much in common and they both get what they each have to deal with in life.
00:12:09.120 The source added, Taylor learns so much from talking to him.
00:12:12.780 And Tom loves seeing everything she does and appreciates her artistry.
00:12:18.600 And as we also saw, Taylor Swift invited Tom Cruise to her wedding.
00:12:25.220 And as we've seen over and over again, a lot of these friendships in Hollywood are just strategic friendships.
00:12:33.060 They're just about being photographed together to put out a message to the public.
00:12:38.340 And that is exactly what this is all about.
00:12:40.960 It says here that Tom will open doors for Travis and Tom may even give Travis a role in Days of Thunder 2, which would be a great fit, the source added.
00:12:54.300 Here you go. Taylor Swift wants Travis to get into two movies and to become an actor or just to have a part in this movie.
00:13:02.800 she wants tom to open doors for her husband and they're also speculating here that maybe
00:13:09.780 tom asked her to have one of her songs in days of thunder because there's not much that tom can do
00:13:16.640 for taylor's career she i mean she's one of the biggest pop stars in the world so what can he do
00:13:23.580 to help her that's not the question the question is what can he do to help her husband and in
00:13:30.440 return maybe he'll get one of Taylor's songs in the movie who knows. So in Days of Thunder 2
00:13:37.200 obviously his ex-wife Nicole Kidman is not a part of that film and Hathaway has accepted that role
00:13:45.320 instead. I can only imagine what it feels like for Nicole Kidman because she knows the real truth
00:13:51.700 of what goes on behind closed doors with Tom Cruise and to see Ellie's stars being willing
00:13:57.880 to work with him must be kind of heartbreaking for her because everyone knows what happened there
00:14:04.240 everyone knows what happened with Katie Holmes but as I talked about yesterday a lot people put
00:14:09.960 their blinders on Hollywood has put its blinders on because Tom Cruise is making them a lot of
00:14:16.080 money and where goes all that money that Tom Cruise makes well he's not spending it on houses
00:14:22.580 or fancy cars. As he's been saying in this revealing interview, he doesn't even have a home.
00:14:29.160 Every place is his home, whatever. And he basically says he doesn't have a personal life. He doesn't
00:14:35.020 have a private life. So where does this money go? It goes to Scientology. So all the people that
00:14:41.700 are aligned and work with Tom Cruise are helping fund Scientology. I found this very interesting
00:14:48.760 video yesterday of ex-Scientologists who have come out and spoken out who's been close to Tom
00:14:55.760 Cruise. Tom Cruise is a different level. Even amongst Scientologists, the youth, the Energizer
00:15:02.360 Bunny, and also the psychopathy. He's a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. So he's a total... He's not very
00:15:09.120 bright, dude. He's very childlike, which is part of the cult indoctrination. And since he's been
00:15:14.540 so surrounded by David Miscavige in that environment. He's super age regressed. He's
00:15:19.340 super childlike. Plus, he's only been a movie star his whole life. That can put you into a
00:15:23.720 whole nother bubble world. So you add his possible psychopathy, Scientology, and he's a movie star
00:15:29.000 where nobody calls him out. That guy is so far removed from anything that we would call
00:15:34.580 the real world. I won't diagnose Tom Cruise, but I will say that he is not a good person.
00:15:41.340 Cruise is actually much more fanatical than Travolta. 0.80
00:15:45.480 And he's also extremely, extremely narcissistic.
00:15:49.260 Anyways, I find it so interesting that someone like Taylor Swift,
00:15:52.500 she knows what Tom Cruise is all about.
00:15:56.160 She knows what Scientology is.
00:15:58.400 She wants to be seen with him.
00:16:00.580 She wants to be aligned with him.
00:16:02.420 I think that says a lot about her.
00:16:04.220 I also found it interesting what Lea Rehm and I,
00:16:06.640 you know, she used to be a Scientologist and she's gone out,
00:16:09.940 criticized them.
00:16:10.600 she made documentaries about them and she was speaking to joe rogan in an interview with him
00:16:16.160 on his podcast and she said so tara essentially has servants correct how many people a lot but
00:16:24.420 when you believe as a scientologist you are working for somebody who single-handedly is saving the
00:16:32.120 planet and you deserve that kind of punishment that's something different it's an abuse that is
00:16:39.620 not justified but it is justified because you believe that you are single-handedly saving the
00:16:47.620 planet and you can hear from Tom Cruise's early interviews that he keeps repeating that you know
00:16:53.400 nothing and I know I know I have the answer and the last 20 years he has learned how to hold back
00:17:02.100 on what he really believes and hide from the public what he really believes because he knows
00:17:07.680 it is hurting his movies. Anyways it should be interesting to follow his Oscar campaign now
00:17:13.980 and see how dirty this all gets and to see if Taylor Swift can and will be out there to protect
00:17:22.080 him. Anyways let's talk about this Sydney Sweden madness and how people are attacking women who are
00:17:29.840 criticizing this ad campaign for gambling because they're not attractive enough to have an opinion.
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00:20:56.300 including myself. I've been reading a lot about other people's opinions as well and that's why
00:21:02.740 I wanted to bring this back a little bit because I saw this this morning. This is a post from
00:21:09.140 someone called Lauren DeMoss Benson and it really really resonated with me and I think it explains
00:21:17.720 exactly what's going on here. She says a gambling company uses a nearly naked woman to get attention
00:21:26.620 female athletes object to the sexualization and now they're getting attention too from people 0.99
00:21:34.320 calling them ugly, jealous, and bitter. The ad becomes an excuse to degrade even more women. 1.00
00:21:44.880 And the company benefits from all of it. The ogling, the outrage, the arguments. People don't
00:21:51.980 even have to like the ad to spread it. Women's frustration becomes free distribution for the 1.00
00:21:58.340 company they're criticizing. That's the particularly gross part. Women say stop reducing us to our 1.00
00:22:05.880 bodies and the response is you're just mad yours isn't that hot. The point gets buried under the 1.00
00:22:13.640 exact treatment they're objecting to. Look at what women are being offered here. Be sexual 1.00
00:22:20.520 entertainment or be the woman everyone mocks for questioning it. Either way men get something to 0.94
00:22:27.580 enjoy and the advertiser gets something to profit from. And Sweeney reportedly holds equity in the
00:22:34.380 company. She has a financial stake in its success. This is a business decision and criticizing it
00:22:40.620 isn't jealousy. A woman making money from objectification doesn't magically turn it into 1.00
00:22:47.700 empowerment. Companies hiring Sweeney knows that she is controversial. They've already seen backlash 1.00
00:22:54.680 make one of our campaigns go viral. We can't prove outrage was the plan, but let's stop pretending
00:23:00.500 another provocative ad causing it was some unforeseeable accidents. The company gets
00:23:06.120 attention from displaying a woman's body, then more attention when other women are humiliated
00:23:12.020 for objecting. That's what makes this worse than sex sells. Women demand an end to their 1.00
00:23:18.820 and even that becomes an opportunity to profit from it. I thought that was so well said. And 1.00
00:23:28.220 after I scrolled through that, this popped up in my Instagram. This is a post that says it all.
00:23:35.940 It's from Hodge Twins. And this person put out a photo of these four women saying,
00:23:44.300 the faces behind the hit pieces on Sidney Sweeney are getting passed around and people are saying
00:23:50.600 it speaks volumes. Then the person says a collage of writers who have gone after Sidney Sweeney
00:23:58.700 is spreading fast. The joke is simple. These are the people lecturing her in print. Sweeney has
00:24:06.540 been getting piled on for her looks, her success and the way she carries herself in public. A lot 0.99
00:24:13.320 of readers see the coverage as personal, not reporting. Would you take a lecture from the
00:24:18.900 panel? So this person says here that because he or she doesn't find these women attractive enough,
00:24:30.800 why should anyone listen to them? You are just ugly and jealous, so you should not have the 0.98
00:24:35.440 right to have an opinion. Of course, they're missing the entire point of why people are 0.99
00:24:39.820 criticizing this ad. They're not criticizing Sydney Sweeney for feeling free enough to take her clothes
00:24:45.880 off. They are criticizing the message of this ad. But the fact that women who are criticizing this
00:24:54.760 ad are getting attacked for being ugly and jealous says everything we need to know about these people
00:25:02.900 protecting and defending this ad. Women are saying stop reducing women to their bodies and the 0.54
00:25:09.020 response is shut up your body isn't as good as hers and here are the real facts sydney sweeney
00:25:14.380 is selling gambling gambling is not sexy it's not clean and it's not pretty it can mean financial
00:25:22.920 ruin families breaking up depression and most seriously people not wanting to live anymore
00:25:31.160 Here are some real facts about what Sydney Sweeney is trying to sell you.
00:25:36.400 11.1% of people with gambling disorder have attempted to do something to not live anymore.
00:25:46.100 I can't say that word here on YouTube.
00:25:48.280 And if you compare that to other people in that same category, that is just 4%.
00:25:54.120 So people with a gambling disorder are roughly three times more likely to do something like that.
00:26:02.000 And when it comes to divorce and separation, research has found that 10.3% of disordered
00:26:09.000 gamblers in the study sample experienced separation or divorced in the preceding year.
00:26:16.580 10.3%.
00:26:18.220 Earlier, U.S. National Gambling Research cited in the paper found lifetime divorce rates of 39.5% among problem gamblers and 53.5% amongst pathological gamblers, compared with 18.2% among non-gamblers.
00:26:39.060 Do we need to say more about what gambling brings?
00:26:43.220 And that's why I find the reactions to the criticism here so ironic.
00:26:48.980 Sydney Sweeney is talking to men.
00:26:50.760 Let's face it. 0.97
00:26:51.300 She's talking to men with this ad. 1.00
00:26:53.340 She wants to lure men onto this app so they can spend all their money there. 1.00
00:26:59.780 So she can get richer, by the way. 1.00
00:27:02.340 And she wants them to spend all their money. 0.93
00:27:04.740 And then when they spend all their money,
00:27:06.740 Do you think they're going to be in a healthy relationship with someone?
00:27:09.420 Does anyone want to be in a partnership with someone who's gambling?
00:27:13.380 No.
00:27:14.040 She wants to lure these men into becoming lonely, depressed, and broke.
00:27:19.420 So while these men are busy laughing at women,
00:27:22.420 not being attractive enough in their eyes to criticize Sydney Sweeney,
00:27:27.380 who's not offering them a date, by the way,
00:27:30.120 they are helping to promote an app that makes men miserable.
00:27:34.480 In the meantime, I'm wondering how people in Hollywood are looking at Sidney Sweeney now.
00:27:40.500 We know that Hollywood does not like controversy, and this is not the first time Sidney Sweeney
00:27:45.400 has done something like this.
00:27:47.440 So would they see it as a risk to work with her in the future?
00:27:52.360 And who knows what Sidney Sweeney's long-term career goal is, but if she wants to stay in
00:27:58.440 Hollywood and if she wants to get good roles, this is definitely not the way to do that. If the
00:28:05.780 controversy becomes bigger than the actress, she is walking a very fine line. So who are the winners
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