Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - April 12, 2026


I Will TESTIFY !! Blake is FREAKING OUT !!


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Justin Baldoni wants me to be a witness in Blake Lively's upcoming trial, but I'm not sure if I should be there because I'm a little biased against Blake and because I don't think she should be allowed to be in the courtroom.

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00:00:00.000 Obviously, Blake Lively does not want me in that courtroom.
00:00:09.040 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Pjernstieflo, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:13.380 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Magnus is here to help me get through
00:00:20.020 this. It is official. I am on the list of Justin Baldoni's witnesses. I have accepted
00:00:27.880 if they want me in the trial I have accepted to be a witness Magnus yeah how do you how do you
00:00:34.180 feel this is exciting I feel excited actually and really um yeah I think this is a great thing and
00:00:40.920 I think I have a lot to say and obviously Blake Lively does not want me in that courtroom no
00:00:47.220 there are no guarantees you'll uh you'll ever set foot in that quarter at least not as a witness no
00:00:52.480 they wrote like how many pages Magnus I don't know you read it this morning right I was like
00:00:57.480 I gave up after a few pages they have a lot of arguments here for me not showing up at trial
00:01:04.840 they don't want me there why do you think they don't want you I'm just gonna ask you why do you
00:01:08.140 think they don't want you they're saying that I am biased that I am uh yeah that I've been reporting
00:01:15.120 on this and I am biased towards Blake Lively and that I've been selling merch in my Etsy store
00:01:20.360 pro Justin Baldoni and that would have been okay had you sold gin instead yeah totally if I've only
00:01:27.240 sold alcohol and hair products it would have been fine because I sold t-shirts pro Justin as they
00:01:33.400 call it then they think I'm biased it's interesting though because because you know in the beginning
00:01:38.840 especially in the New York Times they insinuated that you were a big part of this yeah that's true
00:01:44.100 and now they're saying she had nothing to do with it personally they're just saying that Baldoni's
00:01:49.780 team amplified my video without my knowledge and that's why I shouldn't be there and they also
00:01:56.000 want to stop actually the video from being shown yeah they just don't want to stop you they want
00:02:00.540 to they want no no evidence of this video whatsoever they don't want little bump in that
00:02:06.320 courtroom no definitely not why don't you think why do you think they don't want to show
00:02:10.580 to show the video or for the jury to see the video well we hate the truth right isn't that
00:02:16.180 what they're saying yeah i think you know as soon as a jury sees that video and her behavior in that
00:02:22.060 video they are afraid that the jury might think that blake lively is a mean girl or a bully and
00:02:28.660 they don't want the jury to think so and there's a lot of other evidence i'll go through a lot of
00:02:34.180 this uh later on this week because there's so much but i want to i want to i want to add something
00:02:38.500 here because yeah they say they don't want this video to be shown because it can color the the
00:02:42.900 jury but then they have backup things right in case the video is shown where the little bump
00:02:50.080 where the term the little bump can be really really offensive according to a story somewhere
00:02:55.560 online very interestingly i mean they have added so much more evidence you have no idea guys i will
00:03:01.400 go through this later this week as well because there's so much yesterday it was like it was such
00:03:05.780 a dump on the legal docket and i've been trying to navigate through it all uh blake lively has
00:03:12.360 filed some new evidence and there's two articles here one is from can you read this magnus the
00:03:19.560 guardian one is oh joy fear and hating the word bump nine things i learned about pregnancy in the
00:03:28.020 guardian yeah that's an article in the guardian and basically saying that when you said congrats 1.00
00:03:34.420 on your little bump it was super offensive yeah and therefore she decided to be a mean girl for
00:03:40.520 four or five minutes yeah and then there's another one here saying oh yeah uh ban the bump watch 1.00
00:03:48.180 Beyonce's belly scrutiny is sexist invasive and bad for all women yes so they're going to try to
00:03:55.400 paint me as a sexist as well because you said congrats on your little bump yeah you were so
00:04:00.620 sexist and also what I think they will try to do because they're saying Blake Lively thought I was
00:04:06.360 a sexist for congratulating her on her little bump that's how why she reacted so strongly to
00:04:11.920 my question about costumes when she said oh would you ever ask that question would you ask that 0.98
00:04:17.600 question to a man or she didn't actually ask me she said it to Parker Posey who sat next to her
00:04:24.040 saying I wonder if she would ask a man that question so what did Parker say by the way
00:04:29.440 she didn't answer it she didn't want to be part of it no I don't think she answered it she was
00:04:35.900 like okay but I think that's the narrative they're going for here now saying that Blake
00:04:40.160 Wively felt that I was sexist I didn't even think it could be if the video is shown they're going
00:04:46.060 to say it's sexist but otherwise they'd rather not have it at all i didn't even think that a woman
00:04:51.340 could be sexist towards her own gender i mean i've never heard about that before is that i mean 0.56
00:04:56.300 oh well in this case for sure i mean you could be anti-feminist or whatever but you can't be
00:05:00.940 sexist because that's based on you looking down at another gender isn't it or not treating another
00:05:06.900 gender the way that they should be i don't know yeah i'm not even going to go there it's so but
00:05:11.880 But I find it interesting because the video will still play a central part, right?
00:05:16.120 Because they will argue that Baldoni's team or, you know, the Wayfair parties boosted the video.
00:05:24.240 Yeah.
00:05:24.720 So it has how many views now on your channel?
00:05:27.960 I don't know, about 7.2 million or something like that.
00:05:30.760 Everyone stole it and put it on TikTok and Instagram and everywhere, right?
00:05:35.140 so they they're basically saying that i mean the most the wayfair party must have a really really
00:05:41.300 good boosting team i must say because they're saying that basically you could take a video of
00:05:45.340 me fixing my stupid bicycle and you know turn it into a a viral moment at least with that logic
00:05:51.740 right yeah so i wish i wish they did that with one of my stupid videos and you know what i remember
00:05:58.340 a couple of times i have tried to boost some of my own videos on youtube when i started out i
00:06:04.460 paid to get them yes and it doesn't really work well you didn't you didn't have the you didn't
00:06:12.420 have access to the wayfarer party's dream machine no that's true of a boosting and millions of
00:06:18.020 dollars that they of course maybe a billion must have spent on boosting my video but it's so
00:06:23.160 interesting you know when you're saying in the new york times it was suggested that i was a part
00:06:27.260 of it and now blake lively is admitting that i wasn't a part of the smear campaign therefore
00:06:33.540 Or therefore, you have no place in the courtroom.
00:06:36.100 And that's why I don't have a place in the courtroom.
00:06:38.740 And also, then that doesn't make much sense because she subpoenaed me because she wanted access to my bank account, my credit card number, my IP address, my home address, my phone, everything. 0.63
00:06:53.940 But maybe she did that to find out that you had nothing to do with it.
00:06:56.880 But the problem with that subpoena is that it went nowhere.
00:06:59.320 So she didn't find out anything.
00:07:01.000 No, and she withdrew it herself.
00:07:02.520 She was like, oh, I didn't need that anyways.
00:07:04.460 Like, really?
00:07:05.600 So she doesn't really have any proof that I wasn't a part of it.
00:07:09.200 And she doesn't have any proof that I was a part of it.
00:07:11.420 But I guess when they've seen all the evidence and all the communications from the Wayfair parties, they realized, oh, she never spoke to them.
00:07:20.620 But, you know, now.
00:07:21.460 But we're still going to.
00:07:23.320 Yeah.
00:07:24.080 Yeah.
00:07:24.340 But now we have to see what the judge says here, because he has to rule on this to see if I actually am allowed in the courtroom.
00:07:32.520 And that's not just you. I mean, there are several witnesses they don't want, right?
00:07:35.500 Yes, and several articles.
00:07:37.600 All the articles, this is really funny,
00:07:39.500 all the articles that came back to haunt Blake Lively during the promotion of It Ends With Us,
00:07:44.820 when the press also went after her, we have to remember that.
00:07:48.120 It wasn't just on social media, she received backlash.
00:07:50.940 Yeah, so the Wayfair Party boosted the media side as well.
00:07:54.740 And there are all these articles where she got married on a plantation
00:07:59.080 and all these things that came back to haunt her
00:08:01.240 that she wants out of the evidence pool
00:08:03.820 for obvious reasons.
00:08:07.360 And then she added some new evidence, Magnus,
00:08:09.420 which is the most hilarious part.
00:08:11.180 Oh, the recipes?
00:08:12.860 So I'll make a video about all of this stuff later.
00:08:15.720 But she did add a recipe from a Taylor Swift cookie recipe
00:08:20.460 into her evidence and photos of her and Taylor Swift
00:08:24.540 and 800 more pages of evidence.
00:08:27.380 But what will the recipes prove?
00:08:28.800 What's the logic here?
00:08:29.960 That, yeah, I don't know that yet.
00:08:32.580 I can't wait for this.
00:08:33.880 Some of our evidence.
00:08:34.800 You should do a deep dive into the recipes.
00:08:36.560 Yes, some of our evidence doesn't make much sense.
00:08:40.000 But I think I've heard from enough people now, and as you've said as well,
00:08:45.340 that my video is kind of a central thing in this lawsuit now.
00:08:50.700 It will play a big part.
00:08:52.840 And for Blake Lively, it's going to be tricky because she has to prove,
00:08:56.760 she has to talk about this video because she wants
00:08:58.740 to prove that they amplified it. Oh, they will, for sure, because they're saying
00:09:00.680 that they boosted it. Yeah, but then to talk about
00:09:02.800 it, the jury has to see 0.88
00:09:04.760 the video, I'm guessing, and she doesn't want
00:09:06.760 them to see it. Of course not. So, that
00:09:08.680 is a really, that's a really
00:09:10.560 tricky thing for her. It became a pop
00:09:12.660 culture reference because
00:09:13.940 they had such a good boosting firm. That's
00:09:16.640 basically the logic. Yeah.
00:09:18.360 Yeah. And Little Bumps
00:09:20.420 is very sexist, obviously.
00:09:22.720 No, extremely sexist. One could say, though,
00:09:24.640 that, you know, since English
00:09:26.540 is not your first language or mine for that yeah for that matter i mean you could you could say to 1.00
00:09:32.700 her if she was so offended by that that oh well i i'll cut this woman some slack because she you
00:09:38.000 know she is not an english-speaking native right and i think native english yeah but i can't even
00:09:43.160 yeah i can't even say that but i think it's a little late for her explanation that she felt
00:09:48.880 offended by no of course but i mean the logic here is crazy isn't it yeah yeah oh i'm gonna i'm gonna
00:09:54.340 I'm so offended by someone saying little bump when I'm highly pregnant and it's been reported.
00:09:59.760 So I'm going to sit here and I'm going to be an effing, you know.
00:10:03.640 And yes, and the thing is, if you're a logical, reasonable human being, why?
00:10:10.160 A professional.
00:10:10.740 A professional.
00:10:11.540 Why would someone start off an interview by trying to offend someone?
00:10:16.400 I mean, from your side.
00:10:18.020 Yes.
00:10:18.200 Like, if I thought that was offensive, why would I start off the interview saying congrats on your little bump?
00:10:23.380 that makes absolutely no sense i love the rumor online where it was said that you were asked not
00:10:28.800 to comment on her body like someone just made up yeah and they ran with it the lively side and that
00:10:33.840 other pro lively instagrammer i don't remember her name of dr gibson or something a doctor lip
00:10:39.680 whatever she said that i walked over and touched blake lively's stomach before we started the
00:10:45.260 interview that i think oh i can't wait for her to to say where that came from yes i think someone
00:10:52.320 boosted that yeah yes i mean yeah i don't know but now we have to wait and see magnus if the judge
00:10:58.360 actually allows this to happen or not he could allow me to testify on just certain things not
00:11:06.060 like be on the stand for a long time and be cross-examined by both sides if you understand
00:11:11.360 you will be for sure you think so you better brace for impact oh my gosh all your boosting
00:11:17.260 skills will come did you sell into yeah did you sell pro Justin Baldoni t-shirts yeah yeah they're
00:11:24.220 gonna yeah I'm sure they're gonna ask questions like that another reason why Blake Lively says
00:11:28.380 that I need don't need to be there is because I'm a non-party but most of Blake Lively's witnesses
00:11:34.140 are non-parties she still has the same list of witnesses by the way I was just looking like
00:11:39.800 Emily Blunt is a witness she hasn't been mentioned in any of the legal papers what's her you know
00:11:45.420 what can she contribute she's a friend right but i mean has she is there anything out there that
00:11:50.600 says she will say this or that no no uh no i haven't heard anything unless she has a hidden
00:11:56.620 like code name in some text messages that we don't know yet uh also ryan reynolds is now on
00:12:01.980 the witness list again i don't know i thought he wasn't going to witness he hasn't been subpoenaed
00:12:06.120 he hasn't been deposed so it's weird if he's called in as a witness all of a sudden i don't
00:12:11.740 know and also Gigi Hadid is still on the witness list oh I can't wait for this trial it's like a
00:12:16.820 celebrity of I hope if I'm gonna be on that stand I really hope there's gonna be other
00:12:21.740 like other like celebrities that day like maybe I could be a witness the same day as
00:12:28.140 Ryan Reynolds or Gigi Hadid or maybe Taylor Swift no because that's their side of their witnesses
00:12:34.220 so you will obviously be called when when it's Baldoni's turn yeah yeah that's true but they
00:12:39.760 are also going to cross-examine her witnesses yeah so well i wish there were cameras in the
00:12:45.260 courtroom i know do you no you'll be on camera i don't know it is it is a little nerve-wracking
00:12:52.660 to think about i've seen enough movies of people being on that stand and i did speak to someone
00:12:57.200 the other day who is a witness or who was just a witness in um harry prince harry in a prince harry
00:13:04.840 trial in london in the uk and she said it was horrific it was so scary so it is i'm sure a
00:13:10.920 scary experience but at the same time anglers i have nothing to hide i'm a non-party here so
00:13:16.640 you know i'll just be honest and i'll just tell them what really happened which i think is a very
00:13:22.000 strong card here because you know when this happened when i when i published this video
00:13:28.120 I received a lot tons and you can be a witness for that tons of tons of messages dms every single
00:13:36.240 day from people saying that they were so happy that I posted that video and they can really
00:13:42.380 relate to what happened to me and they'd been people that were had worked with her and other
00:13:48.860 people that I worked with Blake as well so that is a hundred percent organic no one can argue that
00:13:55.560 so well I guess the argument is that they boosted it so everyone saw it but it still it still mean
00:14:01.720 it means that it resonated with people otherwise they wouldn't have reached out they or they would
00:14:05.880 have they would have hated on you and said you know you behaved horribly or you know yeah for
00:14:11.440 sure and as well by the way Blake Lyle is trying to toss out a lot of the expert witnesses from
00:14:18.160 Baldoni's side and the other way around as well so we're going to see who's going to be left as
00:14:23.700 expert witnesses as well you have to remember expert witnesses get paid a lot of money to have
00:14:29.760 opinions uh didn't the lawyer the other day say that yes they are paid to say exactly what you
00:14:36.360 want them to say basically so they're paid to to be witnesses i am not paid by anyone to be a
00:14:42.320 witness that's why i think i'm not that biased as an expert witness who's completely biased
00:14:48.180 So we'll see which ones of the experts that the judge will allow to stay in the trial as well and to actually be witnesses for Blake.
00:14:59.020 Because she has the most experts, obviously.
00:15:02.420 She has the most evidence.
00:15:03.860 Who are her experts?
00:15:04.800 All the ones that have found the boosting firms all over the world.
00:15:08.940 There are five or six of them who's all agreeing that Blake Lively is a victim and she experienced a retaliation campaign against her.
00:15:19.220 Even with no evidence, they claim that.
00:15:22.160 So, yes, let's see what happens, Magnus.
00:15:24.160 So, there's a list of all the other things that she wants tossed out.
00:15:27.440 And part of that list is a nice pull.
00:15:30.840 Really?
00:15:32.180 Yes, the character that Ryan Reynolds created.
00:15:35.060 They think it's irrelevant to her retaliation. 0.92
00:15:37.520 They also want tossed out.
00:15:38.740 So when they retaliate, it's okay.
00:15:40.800 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:41.260 No, they're not on the stand for defamation, remember.
00:15:44.820 That's true, you're right.
00:15:45.900 And also, they want all of the communication, basically,
00:15:50.180 amongst Sony employees tossed out.
00:15:53.140 I would want that, too.
00:15:54.540 When they call her a terrorist, and they say that she cancelled herself,
00:15:59.180 she can blame herself for all of this.
00:16:02.100 Refuses to listen to advice, right? 0.89
00:16:03.820 Yes, and called her epic-level stupid.
00:16:06.360 it she doesn't want that i wouldn't want that either and she wants the community note to stop
00:16:13.580 magnus the community know the ones that's been going viral the past few days yes and fun fact
00:16:20.720 is it was deleted yesterday or it was gone but it's back on again you have to explain what it is
00:16:27.900 well i explained that in my video yesterday didn't you watch my video i missed it i was preparing
00:16:32.520 this one yeah there was a community note of lake lively's instagram post where she posted her
00:16:37.820 statement basically saying that i'm a victim of a retaliation campaign and basically online
00:16:43.720 violence or whatever she said and someone posted a note on it saying that this is cherry picked
00:16:49.040 and this is not correct and blah blah blah and then it was removed i thought that her team managed
00:16:55.220 to get it removed but it's back up again today of as of saturday today it is still there and
00:17:02.140 Blake Lively does not want that to show up at trial so yeah that makes sense she doesn't want
00:17:09.200 that there she doesn't want Michael Gottlieb her attorney statements to be used either what yeah
00:17:14.840 I wonder why did they not agree on what was going to be written do you think I don't know or do they
00:17:21.260 regret what was written maybe because he was criticizing Brian Friedman for not understanding
00:17:26.000 the law something I made fun of because who doesn't understand the law here Brian Friedman
00:17:31.360 or Michael Gottlieb, who got 10 out of 13 claims tossed out.
00:17:35.640 Another fact, Magnus, that I'm also going to talk about this week,
00:17:38.440 is that TAG, the crisis communication company that Justin Baldoni hired
00:17:45.100 during all this mess, during the premier evidence with us,
00:17:49.180 they filed another summary judgment, or they filed an amended summary judgment,
00:17:54.380 or whatever you call it, to get out of this trial.
00:17:57.460 And that might actually happen.
00:18:00.720 Well, then there's going to be two points left out of 13.
00:18:03.520 Only two claims, yes.
00:18:04.760 So then they have two claims left only before trial.
00:18:07.760 Out of 13.
00:18:08.600 Yes, and I think the judge is ready to toss it out.
00:18:11.120 There are some more interesting stuff surrounding that
00:18:13.600 that I also will talk about later.
00:18:15.760 Another thing that Blake Lively doesn't want the jury to see here
00:18:19.200 is the Van Zandt sham lawsuits.
00:18:21.220 Oh, I wonder why.
00:18:23.260 She mentioned it here also as it's completely irrelevant to her case,
00:18:27.960 the Van Zandt subpoena if you don't know what that is it is a subpoena that Blake Lively and
00:18:33.220 Ryan Reynolds uh it's a lawsuit but that's how they got all the text messages yes so that is the
00:18:38.540 they they filed this lawsuit against Stephanie Jones company I guess to subpoena uh Jennifer
00:18:46.440 Abel's phone and a lot of people is calling this a sham lawsuit and saying that it's illegal
00:18:51.520 so they want it out but if but my question is if they manage to toss the Van Zand out of trial
00:19:01.100 how can they actually use the evidence that they received the text messages you mean yeah the text
00:19:06.780 messages from that subpoena and those text messages were used in the New York Times article
00:19:13.280 we can bury anyone which is the whole I mean it's it's basically what that entire article is based
00:19:19.980 on yeah speaking of what started it all exactly yes so i don't know what's gonna happen there
00:19:25.180 i'll talk more about that later this week as well and she doesn't want any articles as i said uh
00:19:29.800 about mentioning that she got married on implementation and she doesn't want ryan
00:19:33.960 reynolds finances to be a part of this trial uh so yes there's a lot of stuff blake viley doesn't
00:19:41.680 want this jury to find out magnus so we'll just have to uh yeah wait and see what the judge
00:19:47.280 allows and what he doesn't allow a lot of more updates to come you guys i'm super excited about
00:19:53.580 this actually it is a really exciting time so anyways thank you so much yeah yeah sorry but
00:19:59.660 do we know when the judge will rule on all of this because that's a it's a lot of stuff yeah i don't
00:20:04.180 know but i mean this trial starts on may 18th so he only has like a couple of weeks or whatever i
00:20:09.480 don't know exactly when also by the way i forgot to mention that they filed um the jury what do
00:20:16.520 you call it the jury requirements or the questionnaire that the questionnaire that the
00:20:21.720 jury is going to respond to or reply to to be accepted as a jury member i mentioned there too
00:20:27.240 by the way do you know this person really yeah yeah wow so no one that are friends with why
00:20:34.100 would they have that if if you're not even going to be if you're not going to be mentioned no
00:20:39.180 because maybe they're oh yeah they don't know that yeah so none of my friends in new york are
00:20:44.180 going to be allowed as the jury members i guess anyways that's it for us thank you so much magnus
00:20:51.220 for being here and helping me through this yes and um yes subscribe if you haven't and hit the
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00:21:01.960 and yes we'll see you soon
00:21:14.180 Amen.