Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Is this the SMOKING GUN ？？？

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00:00:15.080 As usual, Blake's own evidence is going to backfire on herself.

00:00:19.980 Yeah, we Flossom Talk.

00:00:24.640 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.

00:00:26.240 I'm Siash di Flo, a journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:28.740 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:33.040 First of all, a big thank you to my friend James Scanlon

00:00:36.740 who painted this oil painting for Flossom Talk for my studio.

00:00:41.620 I really, really think it's so cool

00:00:43.420 and it really represents everything that my channel stands for.

00:00:47.140 The greatness and the greed in the town built on delusion.

00:00:51.640 And I think it's so cool that James has been a part of Hollywood himself

00:00:54.520 for so many years.

00:00:55.480 He was the director of motion capture for Titanic and The Matrix

00:01:00.280 and he's had his artwork shown all over town

00:01:02.880 and in TV shows such as Better Things and The Starter Wife.

00:01:07.960 If you're interested to check out more of his artwork,

00:01:09.780 you can go to his Instagram page.

00:01:11.860 It's James Scanlon Artist.

00:01:14.480 I will leave a link below where you can also order this in print for yourself

00:01:18.980 if you want that or you can look at some of his other cool stuff.

00:01:22.700 Yes, so thank you, James.

00:01:24.560 Anyways, let's get into all the crazy madness today.

00:01:28.120 So as I mentioned yesterday in my episode with just a screenshot

00:01:31.140 because this thing happened after I recorded yesterday,

00:01:35.060 Blake Lively is required to submit a CD to the court by tomorrow.

00:01:44.080 As we've learned last time, the court can't handle audio files,

00:01:48.180 which I find so insane.

00:01:50.680 So she has to give them a CD.

00:01:52.000 So what is this recording?

00:01:53.980 I'll get into that in this episode because we have some clues here.

00:01:57.900 And I think, as usual, Blake's own evidence is going to backfire on herself.

00:02:03.480 Also big day today because today is the deadline for Blake's team

00:02:07.260 to respond to Justin Baldoni's motion for summary judgment.

00:02:12.320 She hasn't filed yet.

00:02:13.760 I'm sure she's going to file two minutes to midnight.

00:02:16.260 That's what they usually do.

00:02:17.580 I'm sure it's going to be a huge document with a bunch of attachments and more evidence.

00:02:24.040 So yeah, stay tuned for that.

00:02:25.460 We're going to probably get into that tomorrow.

00:02:27.480 Also big news today.

00:02:28.700 Andy from Popcorn Planet's motion to quash his subpoena was denied.

00:02:35.040 The judge in Florida said you are not a journalist.

00:02:38.940 So you you shouldn't have any journalist privilege here.

00:02:42.460 So the judge ruled that Popcorn Planet has to basically hand over all communications he had

00:02:49.880 in regards to Blake Lively.

00:02:52.660 What does this really mean?

00:02:54.260 I think this is actually going to backfire on Blake Lively and I'll get into that as well.

00:02:59.720 Another filing today.

00:03:01.260 The Wayfair Party has responded to the New York Times.

00:03:04.940 Remember New York Times sued Wayfair because they want them to pay their legal bills

00:03:09.760 for fighting their lawsuits.

00:03:12.760 So now the Wayfair Party has responded.

00:03:15.300 I also wanted to go into some of the biggest cracks in Blake Lively's lawsuit in this episode.

00:03:20.620 What is the major thing here that she is missing that makes me believe that she has no chance

00:03:28.920 to win this lawsuit?

00:03:30.660 Okay, so let's get into it.

00:03:31.920 So tomorrow Blake Lively has to give this recording to the court, to the clerk down there,

00:03:38.200 and he has to burn some copies and give to reporters or content creators who come down

00:03:42.740 there and ask for them.

00:03:43.660 So I'm sure we're going to have that recording as soon as it hits the court because there are

00:03:48.100 some really amazing people out there that are making sure that the truth is coming out

00:03:53.060 in real time.

00:03:54.300 So this recording is filed by Blake Lively in hopes to, of course, help herself.

00:04:00.120 This was filed in accordance to her spoiltation motion, meaning that she wanted to punish the 0.97

00:04:07.400 Wayfair parties because she believed that they had deleted evidence on purpose.

00:04:13.180 And what doesn't make sense to me here is that Blake Lively filed this and then sealed

00:04:18.780 this recording.

00:04:20.060 Why would you seal something that helps you?

00:04:22.880 If this would benefit Blake in any way, she would have used this recording already.

00:04:29.320 She didn't.

00:04:30.520 And now the judge probably thinks that this is contradicting some of the things that she's

00:04:35.940 claiming.

00:04:36.720 Otherwise, it wouldn't make that much sense for the judge to actually say, hey, this recording

00:04:41.500 needs to be out there.

00:04:42.360 Remember, he said the same thing with the Steve Starowicz recording.

00:04:45.320 He was the one who said transparency here.

00:04:47.740 The public deserves to know.

00:04:49.680 So what I think we can expect from this evidence now, and I think we've seen so many examples

00:04:54.200 of this now that Blake is using and filing evidence that is really hurting herself because 1.00

00:05:00.080 she doesn't have anything.

00:05:01.560 She's trying to twist the truth around and use evidence that really supports Baldoni and

00:05:07.040 not her.

00:05:08.140 And we've seen that with so many of the text messages and emails, all this evidence.

00:05:12.360 That she's claiming that is supporting her case.

00:05:15.400 And most of the time it's doing the opposite.

00:05:17.700 And I think that's what we're going to see here.

00:05:20.040 I can't wait to listen to this recorded.

00:05:22.140 And of course, as soon as I get it, I will create a video around it and I will report

00:05:26.080 on it and I will keep you updated.

00:05:28.240 Okay, so let's get into Andy's motion that was denied.

00:05:32.020 I was really shocked by this.

00:05:34.180 Apparently, the judge in Florida where he fought the subpoena believes that he is not

00:05:40.020 a journalist because he is on YouTube.

00:05:42.960 They said that he hasn't proven that he's a journalist and he's not working in ways,

00:05:49.440 in editorial ways.

00:05:50.920 And that's why he cannot claim reporter privilege.

00:05:55.520 So they say that he has to give up all his communications with Blake Lively's team.

00:06:03.420 And I know Andy has spoken about this on his channel, that he has reached out to both the

00:06:09.640 Wayfair parties and Blake Lively's team to ask for comments.

00:06:14.000 That's what a reporter does. 1.00

00:06:16.420 That's supposed to be your job to actually do balanced reporting.

00:06:20.580 So you are contacting both sides to give both sides the opportunity to respond.

00:06:26.820 But we know that Andy's been working on this documentary and that's probably one of the

00:06:32.260 reasons that they're after him here.

00:06:34.860 And in that documentary, he's been looking for sources.

00:06:37.740 I can imagine as you do in a documentary, I'm a part of this documentary.

00:06:41.840 He reached out to me to get me to participate.

00:06:45.300 And I'm sure he reached out to both parties to try to get people for his documentary.

00:06:50.740 Andy has already dropped a press release about this.

00:06:53.980 And he's saying that this ruling is a chilling attack on independent journalism.

00:06:59.160 It suggests that unless you work for a newspaper or legacy media corporation, you have no right

00:07:04.760 to protect your sources.

00:07:06.700 That is not only wrong, it endangers every whistleblower, content creator, podcaster, and independent

00:07:14.160 reporter working today.

00:07:16.500 So true.

00:07:18.120 And that's why this is so important.

00:07:20.060 And that's why it's so important that everyone gives a lot of attention to this because it hurts

00:07:25.560 everyone.

00:07:26.360 If a big celebrity or a powerful person can go after critics on the internet, any critic,

00:07:36.140 and say that, hey, here's a subpoena, you have to give me all your sources.

00:07:40.260 And if you don't, if you want to fight it, you're probably stuck with bills worth, you know,

00:07:45.300 up to $50,000, $100,000.

00:07:47.780 And that's the reality here.

00:07:49.540 And that's why this is so scary.

00:07:51.260 And he says here as well that he is planning to appeal this to the 11th Circuit.

00:07:56.040 I don't know how long that's going to take, but it's going to be like another headache,

00:08:00.220 more hassle for him.

00:08:01.860 I think they gave him a deadline here of December 17th to give up all this information.

00:08:08.880 I don't know what they think they're going to find here because what they're looking for

00:08:13.420 is content creators or journalists who've been paid by Wayfarer to support their

00:08:21.160 narrative.

00:08:22.280 And as you know, they haven't found any evidence of that.

00:08:25.680 So all they're going to find here is a content creator slash journalist doing his job, doing

00:08:33.560 his due diligence of contacting sources before he's reporting on something.

00:08:38.040 And what is that going to do for Blake Lively's case when they find out that's what he's been

00:08:42.980 up to?

00:08:43.920 It's just going to harm her case because then again, there is no evidence of a smear campaign. 0.68

00:08:51.160 And now it seems like Andy is their last hope here to prove that Wayfarer parties were

00:08:58.300 collaborating with journalists or content creators.

00:09:02.040 Because as you know, so far they have found zero evidence of that.

00:09:06.520 And they have, as you know, subpoenaed over 107 content creators trying to find evidence.

00:09:13.980 So again, this is just going to work against her.

00:09:17.000 When she finds this information, she is saying that this information was withheld from the

00:09:23.180 Wayfarer parties and Melissa Nathan and I think Brian Friedman, who are the two people

00:09:27.720 that they, I think they're accusing him of talking to.

00:09:30.040 And the funny thing is, he didn't start communicating with that side, as far as I know, until the

00:09:36.220 lawsuit was filed.

00:09:38.040 So then they're saying, oh, you smeared her after she sued them for smearing.

00:09:42.960 I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

00:09:44.240 There's no logic to what Blake is accusing people of, as you know.

00:09:48.900 So if I'm going to be honest, the reason why I didn't contact anyone from Blake's team

00:09:53.300 or Justin's team was because I wanted to just have a completely clean slate, because I was

00:09:58.900 already dragged into this drama through the New York Times article, where they strongly

00:10:03.880 insinuated that I was working with his team.

00:10:06.740 So that's why I never reached out to anyone.

00:10:10.120 But I do completely understand why Andy did that.

00:10:14.700 It wouldn't make him a good reporter if he didn't.

00:10:17.660 So congrats to Blake's legal team for subpoenaing evidence that will weaken her case.

00:10:24.900 Talking about all of this, we have to get back to the core of her claims, which I was

00:10:31.860 looking at again today, because someone sent me this interview where Jack Tapper from CNN

00:10:37.380 is interviewing Michael Gottlieb, which is one of Blake's main attorneys.

00:10:41.940 And thank you, Marlene, by the way, for sending me that interview.

00:10:44.660 I remember I spoke about it when this happened.

00:10:46.660 It was just after Justin's lawsuit was dismissed by the judge and Blake's team went on a victory

00:10:54.660 lap and said, you know, the claims were baseless, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:57.720 It had nothing to do with that.

00:10:59.620 The judge didn't even look at the facts in the lawsuit because he just said, you know,

00:11:04.600 she has privilege because she filed the CRD complaints and this was about SH.

00:11:10.500 So she has privilege.

00:11:11.480 So you can't sue her.

00:11:12.780 So it was just a technical reason for that dismissal.

00:11:15.980 It was nothing about what he said and accused her of and Ryan Reynolds of and Leslie Sloan of

00:11:21.920 wasn't true.

00:11:23.320 That's what they said, of course, in the media.

00:11:25.980 And in this segment on CNN, when Jake Tapper is interviewing Michael Gottlieb, he says himself

00:11:32.020 as a reporter, there was a very orchestrated campaign against her. 0.93

00:11:37.580 And one of the things that's so fascinating and also disturbing about this case is how much

00:11:42.520 the Internet plays a role with people trying to get out information to smear.

00:11:50.680 And there was a very orchestrated campaign to smear Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds to a lesser extent.

00:11:57.020 Those are the words that Jake Tapper is using here.

00:12:01.240 So he is claiming this to be true without having any evidence.

00:12:06.940 Talk about doing due diligence here.

00:12:09.040 Anyways, so here comes the really interesting aspect to me of this entire case.

00:12:14.000 And this is where I think that Blake is definitely going to lose her credibility with the court. 0.97

00:12:20.600 Because you have to remember that Blake filed these 17 points because she was upset about

00:12:28.260 things that the Wayfair parties did on the set.

00:12:30.920 Yeah, you know, they showed her a video of a woman after she gave birth.

00:12:34.560 And they said that and Justin said that her beanie was sexy. 1.00

00:12:37.500 Things like that.

00:12:38.260 That wasn't allowed anymore, including Justin not allowed to cry anymore.

00:12:42.320 That was also one of the things that were mentioned in those 17 points.

00:12:45.300 So after the Wayfair parties signed these points because Blake Lively was blackmailing them,

00:12:52.320 saying that she refused to come back and shoot the movie unless they signed these documents.

00:12:57.100 So they did.

00:12:58.200 She said that after they signed these documents, there were no more incidents.

00:13:04.020 She said nothing more happened after this.

00:13:07.940 So this is in the beginning of January.

00:13:10.840 Then she's claiming that the Wayfair parties waited over six months before they retaliated

00:13:20.800 against her.

00:13:22.080 And they chose a moment where they would sabotage their own hard work, their own movie to do

00:13:31.680 this retaliation campaign against her. 0.98

00:13:34.420 Where is the logic in that?

00:13:36.740 If they were going to retaliate against her for speaking out and for making these 17 points,

00:13:44.020 why did they wait until the most vulnerable moment for themselves to do that?

00:13:50.720 Also, of course, we have to keep in mind the reason why all of this backlash happened against

00:13:56.320 the around the release of the movie was because Blake was out there doing press and it backfired

00:14:02.640 on her.

00:14:03.240 And also, to me, there is a lack of motive here.

00:14:07.200 What was supposed to be the motivation from the Wayfair parties and Justin Baldoni to retaliate

00:14:13.660 against her?

00:14:14.920 There were no financial gain in doing that.

00:14:17.960 The only reason would be revenge.

00:14:21.740 Why would they spend all this time and money just for revenge?

00:14:26.000 They needed Blake to be in a good light so they could sell movie tickets.

00:14:30.720 A smear campaign wouldn't only hurt Blake, it would definitely hurt themselves as well.

00:14:36.820 Yeah, there's no logic here.

00:14:38.400 And I think when you present this for a jury saying that why would they wait so long to

00:14:42.600 retaliate against her?

00:14:44.300 And I think what happened here is that Blake was so devastated after all this bad press and

00:14:48.300 she was like, how can we blame this on someone else?

00:14:50.820 And the lawyers were like, well, you could blame it on them, but you can't sue someone

00:14:54.560 just for defaming you.

00:14:55.880 That's too weak.

00:14:56.840 And a lawyer said, well, it's not illegal to plant negative stories about someone.

00:15:00.600 As you know, you've done it yourself, Blake.

00:15:02.380 And then they went through some different scenarios here.

00:15:04.760 Okay, how can we sue them for a smear campaign?

00:15:08.800 And the lawyers probably said, well, did something inappropriate happen on set?

00:15:12.440 Is there anything we can use there?

00:15:14.420 And Blake was like, yes, Justin said that my beanie was sexy.

00:15:17.980 And then he said that Jenny Slate's pants were sexy. 0.66

00:15:20.440 And the lawyers were like, yes, that's perfect.

00:15:23.440 We can use that.

00:15:24.300 Anything else?

00:15:25.580 Yes, I was shown a video after a woman gave birth and I thought it was something else.

00:15:30.160 And they're like, oh my God, this is great.

00:15:32.340 And then she said, yeah, in this intimate scene where we were dancing, Justin was biting

00:15:37.480 my lip and he was being really inappropriate.

00:15:40.640 I hope they didn't record that with audio, by the way.

00:15:44.140 I don't think they did.

00:15:45.240 So let's go for that one too.

00:15:46.900 And her attorneys were like, yes, this is great.

00:15:49.760 This is real SH.

00:15:51.740 Let's use this.

00:15:52.780 And now we can sue them for the retaliation.

00:15:55.580 Anyway, that's what I think happened here.

00:15:57.920 Okay, and then, of course, we have to talk about the New York Times as well, because now

00:16:01.140 the Wayfair Studio has officially answered the lawsuit that they filed against them because

00:16:07.580 they want the Wayfair parties to pay for their legal fees.

00:16:12.320 So the Times here is claiming anti-slap.

00:16:15.740 And they say that the Wayfair studios only sued them to punish journalism.

00:16:21.500 And the Wayfair parties say, no, we're not trying to silence anyone here.

00:16:26.300 We are just demanding accountability because they know, and I know, because I was in that

00:16:32.640 article.

00:16:33.140 We know that they did not report on the truth here.

00:16:38.740 We know that they cherry-picked, and we know they didn't do their due diligence.

00:16:43.100 And they have not taken any responsibility for that reporting that they based on purely

00:16:48.500 one-sided information coming from Blake and her team.

00:16:52.280 I actually feel like my story here is quite important in this case.

00:16:57.080 I don't know why they're not mentioning it, but the fact that they accused me of being

00:17:02.180 a part of the smear campaign without even reaching out to me and to ask me if it was

00:17:08.060 true.

00:17:08.960 I think that says a lot about this entire piece that they did and how sloppy it was.

00:17:14.840 But of course, the New York Times is never going to admit fault because that's going to

00:17:19.560 cost them money and credibility.

00:17:21.060 So they just have to stick with this.

00:17:23.120 I wonder what's happening in their internal meetings here, if Megan Thewey is just still 0.97

00:17:28.940 saying, well, I believe Blake, I believe everything she told me.

00:17:32.640 We know when they are publishing a story like this, it's not like they didn't go through the

00:17:37.960 legal system, the internal legal system at the New York Times before they did that.

00:17:42.620 So I wonder who didn't do their job here.

00:17:45.580 And I think that the public deserves to know how they reported on these text messages.

00:17:51.620 Did they see all the text messages themselves?

00:17:55.560 Did they cherry pick which ones they wanted in the article?

00:17:59.560 Or were they fed these illegally obtained text messages from Jennifer Abel's phone?

00:18:07.900 Did they just receive the already cherry picked text messages that would support Blake's

00:18:15.040 narrative?

00:18:15.900 Either one of those options are terrible because either they knew what they were doing or they

00:18:21.320 were just ignorant of what they were doing.

00:18:23.300 Anyway, that's it for me today, you guys.

00:18:25.380 I hope you enjoy this episode.

00:18:26.940 More news coming out later this week.

00:18:29.280 It's all last minute.

00:18:30.560 Always.

00:18:31.240 I hate that.

00:18:31.900 I feel like, oh, today is the deadline for this thing.

00:18:34.440 And then it doesn't show up until midnight.

00:18:36.600 So stay tuned.

00:18:37.900 Tomorrow we will see Blake's response to Justin's summary judgment.

00:18:42.460 And also this recording, which I'm sure they're going to wait until the last minute as well.

00:18:48.400 But I promise I will report on everything as usual.

00:18:52.800 So yes, thanks for watching, you guys.

00:18:54.300 And please subscribe if you haven't.

00:18:56.100 And hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode of Flossom Talk.

00:18:59.680 And I'll see you soon.

00:19:01.040 Bye.

00:19:01.480 Yeah, we've lost some talk.

Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 04, 2025

Is this the SMOKING GUN ？？？

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