Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - April 30, 2026


It Gets WORSE !!


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00:00:00.000 Because what Blake has achieved once more is to remind everyone why she's not popular anymore.
00:00:12.360 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk. I'm Jashti Flor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:17.200 of reason in a town built of delusion. Okay, as you know yesterday there was a pre-trial conference
00:00:22.820 in New York where both sides met to discuss what experts to allow to trial and also Blake
00:00:29.980 Lively's damages. Now the press has picked up on this and the headlines are so funny because what
00:00:37.000 Blake has achieved once more is to remind everyone why she's not popular anymore. Because at this
00:00:45.080 pre-try conference Baldoni's team brought up that Blake Lively had bullied Princess Catherine as
00:00:52.560 well as how she's never been successful in any of her businesses. So now while she's fighting to get
00:00:58.840 her reputation back, people are just reminded of why she lost it. It actually gets worse. By the
00:01:06.260 way, one of our experts has calculated that she would have a 600% increase in earnings the next
00:01:14.160 few years. Yes, that's true. Another of our experts, as I mentioned the other day, calculated that it
00:01:19.960 would cost Blake between 14 to 20 million dollars to get her reputation back. While at this time,
00:01:27.300 so far in this trial she spent 50 million dollars on getting her reputation back. I mean they need
00:01:34.240 to get their maths in order here because this does not add up. Also Ryan Reynolds was in LA this week
00:01:40.980 he was actually a few blocks from where I live I didn't know about that. Of course he could not
00:01:45.780 resist an opportunity to get some attention and some validation he was here to promote the
00:01:51.200 documentary series Rexham with his other girlfriend Rob Mack. It's funny when you look at Ryan Reynolds
00:01:57.620 Instagram now it's only pictures of him and Rob and him and Hugh Jackman and nothing about Blake
00:02:03.440 but anyways there was a reporter from Entertainment Tonight who actually went there. I know from my
00:02:09.820 sources in the industry that they were not allowed to ask him about this legal feud but one reporter
00:02:15.220 pushed the button and what he got was priceless. Yeah and Daily Mail picked up on this saying that
00:02:21.140 Ryan Reynolds leaves wife Blake Lively at home as he makes rare red carpet appearance ahead of
00:02:26.120 Justin Baldoni trial. Yeah he can't escape this now although he's trying really really hard. Let's
00:02:31.940 also look at something really interesting from Colleen Hoover's deposition because as you know
00:02:36.820 yesterday at this pre-trial conference they talked about how Blake Lively is losing money from the
00:02:43.460 opportunity of starring in It Starts With Us without ever having been offered that role and
00:02:48.660 now it's clear to me that Justin also made sure that there will never be a sequel to this movie.
00:02:54.680 So let's see how mad Colleen Hoover actually got when she realized that Justin had written 0.99
00:03:00.180 Ryle out of Lily's life. He didn't want people to walk away from theaters thinking that you could
00:03:06.720 still be in a co-parenting relationship with an abusive ex. Yeah, so let's get into it. It's so
00:03:12.880 much juice here, you guys. As I said, there were a bunch of interesting headlines today picking up
00:03:17.620 what happened in court yesterday. One of them from New York Post saying Justin Baldoni's lawyer
00:03:22.100 deny actor cost bully Blake Lively's downfall in pretrial hearing. And they also mentioned the
00:03:28.920 incident where Blake bullied Princess Catherine. All of these stories that Blake claim that Justin
00:03:35.660 Baldoni brought back to life to smear her in 2024, she is bringing back to life like never before
00:03:43.620 through this lawsuit. Anyways, let's look at this article in Daily Mail. Ryan Reynolds leaves wife
00:03:50.060 Blake Lively at home as he makes rare red carpet appearance with just ahead of Justin Bologna's
00:03:56.420 trial. I mean, everything that he does right now, of course, people are going to tie it to this
00:04:01.440 trial. Otherwise, you're not really doing your job as a journalist, if you ask me. It says here that
00:04:06.220 Ryan made a solo appearance at a special FYC event for his sports documentary series, Welcome to
00:04:11.920 wrecks him. In Los Angeles on Tuesday, the Deadpool actor attended the event without his
00:04:17.500 wife, Blake Lively, who's going up for a courtroom battle, blah, blah, blah. Reynolds and Lively are
00:04:22.580 reportedly considering fleeing America in a bid to escape the ongoing backlash against them amid
00:04:28.800 the fallout from the legal drama. This is not a great piece for either of them. Here, it's not
00:04:35.160 like they're deciding to start another life. It's like they're fleeing America, but then they continue
00:04:40.640 like this. But at Tuesday's event, the actor looked in good spirits and went for a casual look
00:04:46.560 wearing an orange and white striped sweater paired with a white tee and beige jeans.
00:04:53.760 I love reading up these descriptions of what people are wearing because everyone who can
00:04:59.060 actually read can also see on a picture what someone's wearing. Anyways, I just think that's
00:05:03.340 so funny. And they continue the actor whose fiery text messages. Yes, we all get reminded of those
00:05:09.340 text messages that ryan sent to wme his agency his agents at wme and also what he sent to sony
00:05:17.780 and other people in the industry by the way we're unsealed amid lively's legal war kept
00:05:23.500 comfortable in a pair of white sneakers there we go he had white sneakers on you guys
00:05:27.820 i'm so grateful for losing not just in rexman other areas of my life too because you you
00:05:34.420 how does it feel good when you have a win or a moment something where you you worked hard
00:05:38.960 And then they also mention how Blake has a track record of flopping projects such as her drink brand Betty Buzz due to her unpopularity rather than an smear campaign.
00:05:51.260 Here comes the interesting part that her expert claimed yesterday in this conference. 0.77
00:05:57.820 He actually said that Blake would have a 600% increase in her earnings.
00:06:03.560 So for the last four projects, she made $21 million, and he calculated that she would make $142 million within the next few years.
00:06:14.940 I mean, seriously, who has a 600% increase?
00:06:18.860 Especially as he's mentioning, or Baldoni's team is mentioning, especially with her track record.
00:06:24.780 How does that work?
00:06:26.240 So he's estimating here that all of Blake's future projects would be huge box office hits.
00:06:32.840 Then they have a quote from Sigrid McCowley, the blonde PR attorney that Blake Lively hired
00:06:39.480 for one reason only, and that is because she used to defend some of Epstein's victims.
00:06:45.020 So Blake, of course, wants to be in that category of victims.
00:06:49.620 But anyway, she has some quotes here saying that Blake's hope is to be able to have her
00:06:54.260 voice heard in that courtroom.
00:06:56.120 And that's what we're focusing on right now.
00:06:59.100 she said she also said she's expecting her to take the stand blake is ready for this trial
00:07:05.320 it's a moment she's been waiting for a long time to have her voice heard in this court she said
00:07:10.900 she's feeling really good she's finally at a point where she'll be able to tell her side
00:07:16.200 i think she's been able to tell her side for over a year now and she told her side in this new york
00:07:22.140 times article in december of 2024 and she's been filing over a thousand documents so i think she
00:07:28.900 has had the opportunity to tell her side and also if she really wanted to tell her side she could
00:07:34.060 just go and do an interview and tell her side of this story and I'm curious to what she's going to
00:07:38.480 say on that stand that's going to make anyone change their mind about this story when she's
00:07:43.140 asked about whether celebrities who have been named in court documents such as Taylor Swift
00:07:47.120 and Ben Affleck might testify Macaulay said that Lively did not want that she said Blake has really
00:07:54.340 tried ferociously to protect her friends this is really about her and what she experienced
00:07:59.980 that's what the case is going to center on that's so interesting that she's saying this is about her
00:08:05.500 and what she's experienced because she just said that she's doing this for everyone for other
00:08:10.820 people as well but now it's just about Blake apparently and she did not want to drag Taylor
00:08:15.620 Swift into this although she mentioned her name in almost every interview she did when she was
00:08:20.220 promoting it ends with us and she got help from her bff or ex-bff to take justin down but she
00:08:27.180 always wanted to protect them yeah so entertainment tonight as i said did an interview with ryan
00:08:33.260 yesterday and i found this really funny because this reporter obviously tried to package this
00:08:40.420 question into something that didn't necessarily have to do with the legal feud but he knew that
00:08:46.940 he could tie it to the legal feud. I would do exactly the same. I've done stuff like this as
00:08:51.200 a journalist myself because you're opening the door to something, but then you're actually leaving
00:08:56.000 the person to respond the way they feel comfortable responding. And it's interesting
00:09:01.060 when you see Ryan Reynolds' reaction to the question, you see his face and you know he knows
00:09:07.740 what's coming and he knows that he kind of has to answer it and he knows he has to be really nice
00:09:12.800 about it because everything he does and says these days is being scrutinized against him so
00:09:19.480 this is kind of an interesting trap how do you balance the joy of this and the other craziness
00:09:24.700 going on in life i don't know i mean it's a life right it's ebbs and flows and all you know that's
00:09:31.240 what makes it so special you know you don't know the good moments you don't have some bad moments
00:09:35.680 you don't know the bad moments you haven't had some good moments that's yeah he did exactly the
00:09:39.740 same as he did the other day when he was interviewed on stage for that sponsored interview that I
00:09:46.860 showed where he kind of like pitches his voice up a bit like yeah I don't know for the last year and
00:09:52.960 a half I've gone through this very public yeah legal proceeding to make it sound like this is
00:09:58.040 just a trivial thing in his life and then he continues to say I don't know and then he says
00:10:03.700 it's life, right? I don't think that's life actually. Most people don't experience these
00:10:09.540 things in life. So it's your life. And if you think that's life, you're living on this cloud,
00:10:14.620 on this celebrity cloud, which is not real for anyone else watching this. And he says it's ebbs
00:10:19.640 and flows and that's what makes life so special. And then he says, you don't know the good moments
00:10:26.400 if you don't have some bad moments. So he is admitting that he has some bad moments at least
00:10:32.920 that it's not just like he doesn't care and he's just hanging out with Rob Mack all the time
00:10:37.740 pretending he doesn't really have a wife. So yeah, I just thought that was quite funny. And kudos to
00:10:42.620 the reporter who actually went there. And of course, Ryan posted on Instagram pictures of him
00:10:48.140 and his girlfriend Rob Mack, something that Blake reposted on her story, saying that such a babe
00:10:55.480 commenting on her husband there. Yeah, I don't think things are good between them right now.
00:11:00.900 And I think when you look at Ryan Reynolds' Instagram, that's proof of where he stands right now.
00:11:06.280 He does not want to be associated with his own wife.
00:11:09.600 Okay, so let's look at this It Ends With Us sequel.
00:11:12.000 It starts with us. 0.99
00:11:13.580 As you know, Colleen Hoover wrote a sequel to the book.
00:11:17.300 And Justin Baldoni bought the rights for It Ends With Us and It Starts With Us.
00:11:22.040 So he owns the IP here.
00:11:23.840 No one can touch that.
00:11:25.240 That's Wayfarer property.
00:11:26.720 So yesterday, as you know, in court, her team argued that Blake lost approximately $35 million on this Never Made sequel that she thought that she would be a part of.
00:11:42.120 She has never been offered that part.
00:11:44.520 So for Blake to say that she lost income, and then she added to that, by the way, as I also showed yesterday, that Justin Baldoni wanted her to direct.
00:11:52.420 And as I showed yesterday, in an interview, Justin said, someone else should make the second movie.
00:11:59.220 I think Blake Lively is ready to direct. That's what I think.
00:12:01.980 That doesn't mean he said, I think Blake should direct that movie.
00:12:06.140 He said, I think Blake is ready to direct, which I think was a sarcastic comment
00:12:11.620 that, of course, the reporter didn't understand because she wasn't there
00:12:14.940 when Blake took over the entire movie and basically directed it.
00:12:18.080 But anyways, let's get into what Colin Hoover says about the ending of It Ends With Us.
00:12:23.880 Because in her book, the ending was different than what Justin actually did.
00:12:29.500 So Justin did an interview with The Wrap, the magazine,
00:12:33.020 where he talked about why he chose a different ending for Ryle and Lily,
00:12:37.620 the two characters in the book.
00:12:39.280 And he says here in the original draft, we had a scene in the epilogue
00:12:42.960 where we see Ryle dropping off their child to Lily,
00:12:45.560 and they have a short conversation.
00:12:48.080 It was written in a way that showed that they're overcome a lot over the last two years,
00:12:52.940 and I wasn't fully comfortable with it.
00:12:55.440 And no more, the organization that they collaborated with,
00:12:59.380 anti-DV organization, wasn't fully comfortable with it.
00:13:03.240 And we were trying to find a way to make it work, to honor the book,
00:13:07.200 but too much had to be done in such a short window to explain
00:13:10.500 how they could possibly be co-parenting.
00:13:12.880 And then he said, I don't want to open up a can of worms and have a conversation about,
00:13:16.640 you know, should a man like Ryle be allowed to co-parent, you know, what's an acceptable amount
00:13:22.860 of work that someone has to do in that situation? It was just too much. And he added, the truth is
00:13:29.500 from our research and from our partners, we know that the majority of men go back to being abusers
00:13:35.560 and that's the fact. And then I didn't, and then it didn't feel right to tell a story about a man
00:13:41.980 who was a minority in that because that wouldn't be honoring the original intention of why we were
00:13:47.600 trying to tell her story and then he explains why he ended the movie like he did which is basically
00:13:53.380 that he wrote Ryle out of Lily's life for good which obviously is the best scenario for Lily
00:14:00.420 but Colleen Hoover was not happy about that so she thinks from her deposition here which I'm
00:14:08.280 going to read from. She believes that Justin did this ending and bragged about this ending to harm
00:14:15.760 her and the rest of the cast as a smear campaign against them. By the way, there's a lot of talk
00:14:21.860 in this deposition about why she liked Blake Lively's cut more than Justin's and she mentioned
00:14:28.340 because of the humor in it. That was important to Mr. Cess. I mean, humor in a movie like that,
00:14:34.660 that was important to Colleen Hoover. As you know Ryan Reynolds humor is all over the script. I went
00:14:39.760 through the script notes a couple of times here on my channel and I pointed out those Ryan Reynolds
00:14:45.180 jokes that didn't make it into the movie. Some of them did but Sony flagged a lot of them saying
00:14:51.480 that this is not okay. This is not the movie we're making but obviously Colleen Hoover loved that. A
00:14:57.640 little Deadpool humor in a movie about DV. So here the attorney is asking Colleen Hoover about an
00:15:03.660 Instagram post that the Wayfair studio posted referring to the interview I just read from from
00:15:08.980 the rap where Justin is talking about why he changed the ending and Colleen Hoover is referring
00:15:13.660 to this saying that Justin did an article about how in the in the script and in the movie he had
00:15:19.320 Lily leave Ryle and Ryle did not get custody and did not was no longer in their lives and it upset
00:15:26.360 me because the online narrative at the time was very much against the females in the movie or not
00:15:32.880 that, that were involved in the movie. Blake and I, Isabella, were getting a lot of online hate 0.53
00:15:38.860 and I felt like Justin was posting this and all the comments on it were about how great he is
00:15:44.380 for talking about DV and all this stuff while we were silent about it. And then this article in
00:15:51.720 particular was very damaging for me because it made it look like I should have, you know,
00:15:57.240 not that I should have written the ending differently, but that he chose to change the
00:16:01.360 ending but I knew that wasn't true because after I'd written book two we had many conversations
00:16:06.540 about a potential second movie and in order for there to be a second movie he would still be part
00:16:11.880 of Lily and child's and the child's life and so I felt like this article in this interview he did
00:16:17.340 was he did it to try to make himself look like he was aligned with what people were saying negatively
00:16:23.120 about us and not actually speaking the truth in it like as Justin was pointing out men like this
00:16:30.400 rarely change. So to have him in her life would be a huge mistake. But Colleen still wanted that
00:16:37.700 because she didn't really care about how real victims felt about this. She only cared about
00:16:42.460 how popular she was herself on Instagram. So she says here that she asked Justin or Jamie if they
00:16:48.520 could take down that post on Instagram. And then the attorney is asking, and what was it that made
00:16:53.440 you feel that Mr. Baldoni was sharing an article for the purpose of affecting the conversation?
00:16:57.880 And she says, I felt like at this point in time, the movie had released, it was doing really well, but stuff just suddenly started popping up online negatively about Blake and me and the way we marketed the movie.
00:17:10.640 And it was all just really shocking.
00:17:12.500 And I think the most shocking thing was how silent Justin was about the online abuse the women in the movie were getting.
00:17:20.440 So she thought after Blake took over the entire movie and she helped her with that and they both unfollowed him on social media.
00:17:27.440 So she was expecting him to come out publicly and say that, you know, these women are just amazing and you should support them, although they seem really tone deaf in this promotion.
00:17:39.060 I guess so.
00:17:40.460 And she says, and this was to me, went against everything we would preach about supporting women.
00:17:45.860 And I felt very much disappointed that the people who made this film were staying silent when especially Blake was getting so much online hate.
00:17:53.160 And a lot of it was about the flowers and her wearing flower jeans.
00:17:57.440 I mean, the same thing that Isabella also said, that it was Justin's, that Justin should support
00:18:03.320 all women, no matter what they do, what they say, how they behave. It is his job as a man to support
00:18:09.780 them no matter what. And she's saying here, Justin and I met bouquets. And you know, like this was
00:18:15.380 his movie. And I'm sure he approved the marketing plan and what we went along with. And so I was
00:18:21.620 confused why the things we were being willified for were not being defended. As you know it wasn't
00:18:28.060 Justin's idea to promote the movie like that it was Blake Lively's husband Ryan Reynolds because
00:18:33.240 his company Maximum Effort was responsible for the marketing of the movie and they made a marketing
00:18:38.640 plan with Sony and Justin did his own marketing plan because he didn't agree with the way that
00:18:44.500 they were promoting this movie as grab your friends wear your florals and go and watch this
00:18:48.860 movie here colleen says it would have been nice if if justin or sony or jamie you know like shared 0.95
00:18:54.940 the marketing plan and like literally like i showed up and did all of my pr and worked my ass
00:19:00.800 off excuse me and i i felt like oh and why when i say that i mean about the pr and i i read a
00:19:07.640 teleprompter a lot of times i did exactly what i was told to do but then afterwards you know a lot
00:19:13.460 of the stuff we talked about in interviews we did at the press junket a lot of things about dv
00:19:18.100 like they were just not shared anywhere so here she's saying that they actually did talk about
00:19:23.520 this subject but it wasn't shared anywhere I mean I think it was up to her to share things on her
00:19:29.540 own Instagram because basically social media is where they shared all their PR most of it
00:19:35.760 about this movie and her and Blake has a huge following can you imagine what they could do
00:19:41.040 Blake with her 41 million followers which I think is more like 4 million followers and Ryan with his
00:19:47.500 50 million and colleen i don't know if she has two million followers or whatever the power they
00:19:53.700 have with that amount of followers what they could actually do themselves if they saw that oh this is
00:19:59.700 not working we're getting backlash well then you just have to change your approach yeah it's
00:20:05.020 interesting how they all planned to blame justin for everything that went wrong for them and i think
00:20:10.920 also justin wrote ryle out of this movie because he was like this is the end of ryle this is the
00:20:16.220 end of me being a part of this maybe it was like some kind of therapy for him as well to get this
00:20:21.880 character out of his life and never revisit him because imagine the trauma this whole experience
00:20:28.740 has been for him and his family and for Jamie Heath and his family I mean yeah anyways I had
00:20:35.940 a few people asking me to watch Zach Galifianakis a Netflix series about gardening I love Zach by
00:20:42.760 the way I've interviewed him a few times he's the only actually I have to say he's the most
00:20:46.940 honest Hollywood star out there if you haven't watched my interview with him you should he is
00:20:52.220 trashing Hollywood saying everyone is just bragging about themselves it's so fake and and you know
00:20:58.320 saying all those things that most decent people in this town think but they don't dare to say it
00:21:03.500 but anyways I don't know if he is doing this to shade Ryan Reynolds in his gardening show and I've
00:21:09.420 only watched a couple of episodes but as some of the people who sent me this mentioned that he's
00:21:13.280 actually mentioning Ryan Reynolds in several episodes so here's a little snippet of what
00:21:18.100 he said in the episode I watched. Do you know who Ryan Reynolds is? Nobody does. Yeah nobody knows.
00:21:27.200 Who knows? Maybe nobody will know who he is in a few years after they flee to the UK to start their
00:21:33.680 new lives over there. Anyways that's it from you guys. Thank you so much for watching and thanks
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