Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - It's ALL Coming OUT !! Justin Baldoni's billionaire backer speaks out.

00:00:00.000 He said that he wished that people who struggle with honesty can learn how to be better people.

00:00:10.720 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Saskia Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice

00:00:16.120 of reason in a town built on the illusion. I'm back from two days in Norway. It was amazing but

00:00:22.560 I'm exhausted and of course so many things have been happening since I left but I promise you

00:00:28.320 at the end of this episode, you'll be up to date with all the drama in this never-ending legal

00:00:35.260 feud. So Monday, as you know, was the deadline for the Wayfair parties to answer or to respond

00:00:41.700 to Blake Lively's ridiculous claims for attorney's fees. As you know, she asked for eight million

00:00:46.920 dollars. Now the Wayfair parties are asking the judge to not give her anything at all. So could

00:00:53.200 that actually happen? Let's look into that. Also, Baldoni's team added a list of all the attorneys

00:01:00.180 that Blake Lively claims she's used to get this countersuit against her dismissed. 82 attorneys

00:01:09.580 working over 7,000 hours. When you look at it this way, it's so clear to me how Blake has been

00:01:16.500 screwed by her attorneys. The way they have been billing her makes me believe they were never on

00:01:21.500 her side. Also, if you have to hire 82 attorneys to defend yourself, maybe the other party has a

00:01:27.200 really good case. Just a question. Also, there's big news here. Steve Sarawitz has been on a podcast.

00:01:34.880 Sarawitz is the billionaire who's been backing Justin Baldoni throughout all of this stuff. He's

00:01:40.380 also the owner of the Wayfair Studio, the production company that produced students with us.

00:01:46.220 And now he's finally opening up about how painful this has been for him.

00:01:50.920 As you know, he was also accused of Blake Lively of S.H.

00:01:55.260 And she was sure he was the person who was banking the smear campaign against her.

00:02:01.100 Let's see what he has to say about that.

00:02:03.620 And we have to look at this story in the Daily Mail where an insider is coming forward

00:02:07.700 talking about how Justin Baldoni and his family were forced to move out of California

00:02:13.600 after Blake Lively's attorneys doxed his home address.

00:02:18.560 And by the way, they kept doxing it.

00:02:21.180 They leaked his home address after he moved as well.

00:02:24.420 I have to say, I'm so glad that the media has finally picked this up.

00:02:29.480 Anyways, let's look into this interview with Steve Sarowicz.

00:02:32.160 A lot of you people sent me this.

00:02:33.740 Thank you so much for doing that.

00:02:35.700 I've listened to the entire interview now.

00:02:38.300 And I think this says everything you need to know about who Steve Sarawicz really is

00:02:43.640 and how Blake and Ryan had no idea what they were going up against.

00:02:49.060 As you know, Blake accused Steve Sarawicz of wanting to ruin her life and her family's life in her legal filings.

00:02:57.560 They were always portraying him as this evil billionaire who was banking this smear campaign.

00:03:03.240 And Blake also said in her deposition that she believed that he was also guilty of S-aging her because he didn't do anything about the situation and he owned the production company.

00:03:16.380 And if you follow this case very closely, you also know that there was a really scary story involving Steve Cerowitz and his family when someone threatened to kidnap his daughter and to lit his house on fire and they wanted ransom.

00:03:29.680 And the person who did this was obviously following this case, mentioning that they knew he had a lot of money because he could bank this lawsuit.

00:03:38.820 So why wouldn't he be able to pay the ransom for his daughter?

00:03:42.440 On top of that, there is a leaked audio with Steve Sarawitz talking to a young director named Claire Ayub.

00:03:51.740 I've spoken about her on my channel a lot of times.

00:03:54.720 What she did here is so despicable.

00:03:57.900 she was given the opportunity of a lifetime to direct a movie that was banked by the Wayfair

00:04:03.300 studios and then when all of this drama was going on during the premiere it ends with us

00:04:07.640 she had a phone call with Steve Sarowitz that she recorded and later leaked to Blake Lively

00:04:15.540 she also accused Justin Baldoni in a sword statement to be verbally abusive against her

00:04:21.000 and the reason for that was because he denied her more money for her movie she got a budget

00:04:26.920 and she wanted to basically double that budget and Justin Baldoni said firmly no. So that's what

00:04:32.200 she used against him. So Blake Lively used this audio tape to threaten the Wayfair parties and

00:04:38.480 then the Wayfair party said hey why don't you just release this audio? We know it's not gonna harm us

00:04:45.040 which it didn't. It just proved again how decent all of these people are and you could hear from

00:04:51.860 the phone call that he had with Claire Ayoub, that he didn't say one bad word about Blake Lively.

00:04:59.760 The only thing he said was that he wished she would have been a bit nicer. Again, every time

00:05:05.840 they try to attack them, the evidence shows who the real victims are. Login through there. Sorry

00:05:11.540 about that. I just wanted to get a little background info on Steve Sarowicz and what

00:05:15.660 kind of person he is. According to Forbes, he's worth about 2.5 billion dollars and he's given

00:05:21.760 over 250 million dollars to his two charitable foundations. He also intends to give away almost

00:05:29.060 all his money before he dies. So that's the kind of person that he is. Anyways, he was at this

00:05:34.760 podcast called The Movie of Your Life where he was interviewed by two hosts and I love that they

00:05:40.960 actually went straight to the point there a lot of these podcasts keeps talking for hours and then

00:05:46.100 everyone's waiting for that big moment when they're going to ask that very important question

00:05:50.360 but this guy started off the entire conversation saying hey let's talk about the big elephant in

00:05:57.040 the room and steve sarowis was open to that and he basically said what have you learned about

00:06:03.680 yourself throughout all this well i have told everyone who wanted to listen that justin's a

00:06:08.640 great guy. He's innocent of anything he was accused of. Jamie and Justin were both accused

00:06:15.880 falsely, and we were vindicated. And so I'll say that. I'm happy we're through this. It's been

00:06:22.900 very painful. It's been very expensive. I don't wish anybody ill. I just want to go on with my

00:06:28.700 life and move on and pass this. And we're thankful. I am very thankful for my Baha'i faith.

00:06:34.920 that's really helped me a lot.

00:06:37.280 Having faith is really important.

00:06:39.020 And I really hope that those who are struggling

00:06:42.000 with things like honesty and truthfulness

00:06:44.100 can learn to be better people.

00:06:45.840 Yeah, I think he's saying basically the same thing

00:06:48.160 as Justin said, you know,

00:06:49.340 we just want to go on with our lives.

00:06:51.200 We don't want to fight any war.

00:06:53.220 The only thing he said directed at Blake and Ryan here

00:06:55.540 without mentioning their names

00:06:56.900 throughout this entire interview, by the way,

00:06:59.220 he said that he wished that people who struggle

00:07:01.580 with honesty can learn how to be better people. I wish so too, but I do not believe that's

00:07:08.340 possible for Blake and Ryan. He also says he doesn't want to be known for this controversy.

00:07:13.680 I don't want to be known for the controversy. I want to be known as someone who tried to make

00:07:17.440 good movies and tried to make the world a better place. And then he talks about this

00:07:21.940 smear campaign that was launched against them. It was much ado about nothing. There really was no

00:07:27.660 wrong done. The wrong was done to us. There was a smear campaign against us for over a year.

00:07:33.620 There was a smear campaign against me personally. A lot of things were said about me personally,

00:07:36.800 which weren't true. Those kind of lies bother me. However, let's move on.

00:07:43.020 You know, just looking at his body language, you can tell that this has been a really,

00:07:48.160 really hard time for Steve Sarawitz. He also talks about his faith here, how important that

00:07:53.600 is for him as far as I understand from Baha'i it's all about kindness it's all about forgiveness

00:08:00.200 and I think when you're accused of something like this it can't get any worse than that at the same

00:08:05.260 time I'm sure it was such a relief for all of these men who were involved or accused by Blake

00:08:11.060 Lively to have each other and to help each other and to support each other of course and for Justin

00:08:16.740 Baldoni also to have this financial security blanket from Steve Sarowitz I don't know

00:08:23.540 how this would have ended if Steve Sarawicz decided not to step up. If Steve Sarawicz didn't

00:08:28.940 say to Justin, to Jamie, to all the other defendants here that he was willing to financially

00:08:36.180 back this. I don't know how much they're going to get from their insurance company, how much

00:08:41.680 of their legal fees they're going to cover, but I'm sure that's going to be a long uphill struggle

00:08:47.000 for them. So the fact that they have this man in their corner who's willing to give them

00:08:52.300 this support. Yeah, I think that's the only reason that they were able to sue Blake Lively and Ryan

00:08:58.220 Reynolds and Leslie Sloan back. He also talks about new Wayfair projects in this video, in this

00:09:04.080 interview. One of them is called Dinner with Audrey, a movie about Audrey Hepburn. And they have a lot

00:09:10.100 of other interesting projects in the works as well. Anyways, let's look at this story from the Daily

00:09:14.920 Mail. I think this says a lot about how dirty Blake Lively and her team's been playing. And I'm so 0.84

00:09:20.380 excited now that the media started talking about all these little details that content creators

00:09:26.100 mentioned when these things were happening, like this article here mentioning how Blake Lively

00:09:31.780 doxxed Justin Baldoni's home address twice. And that is not by accident. I don't believe that for

00:09:39.820 a second. If you follow this case closely, you might remember that her team by accident

00:09:46.280 uploaded the entire deposition of Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heese,

00:09:52.000 hoping that someone, maybe at deadline, would pick it up

00:09:56.920 and cherry-pick little quotes from him and twist it around

00:10:00.660 to make him look guilty or whatever.

00:10:03.020 And by doing that, they also revealed where they lived, their home addresses.

00:10:07.020 At the same time, they said it was not safe for Blake

00:10:10.120 to do her deposition in Justin Baldoni's attorney's office

00:10:14.640 because of security reasons and then she reveals their home addresses like this anyway so despicable

00:10:20.820 but here it says in the daily mail that justin baloney and wife was forced to move their children

00:10:26.660 across the country amid new showdown with blake lively and insiders revealed the real reason

00:10:33.280 for couples rare video as you know they posted a video together last week talking about how this

00:10:39.360 experience has been for them and how they're trying to heal from this as a family. It says

00:10:44.980 here that now a source close to the couple has revealed that the video statement was a spur of

00:10:50.000 the moment decision brought by Baldoni's desire to get things off his chest so he can go back to

00:10:55.800 posting just being normal in some shape or form. I hope we can see more stuff from him on Instagram

00:11:01.980 in the near future. The actor decided to break his silence on the two-year feud with his Ed

00:11:07.660 ends with us co-star in a bid to put the saga behind him once and for all as he rebuilds his

00:11:13.440 life away from hollywood the insider told the daily mail the insider also said that they're

00:11:19.440 a strong unit they've navigated it together so it makes sense for them to speak out together

00:11:24.700 she's been impacted too talking about emily and they've gone through the ringer together

00:11:29.940 seeing her husband falsely accused and then seeing this woman have her case dismissed and then she's

00:11:35.900 still going out and saying she's advocating for victims it's been tough to watch it's I think it's

00:11:41.560 been tough to watch for it sometimes Oscar just makes me laugh when I look in the corner and see

00:11:48.800 his position here anyways it says here that Boldoni and his family have since relocated

00:11:54.920 hundreds of miles away from Hollywood swapping their Ohio California home for Nashville Tennessee

00:12:01.300 See, the move was largely done with this pair's two children in mind and their home address was doxxed twice, allegedly by Lively's legal team, according to the source.

00:12:13.180 That's not allegedly. We saw it ourselves. I saw it in the legal papers in the docket.

00:12:18.860 So they revealed their addresses and they did the same thing by mistake with several content creators, by the way.

00:12:27.400 The insider also said it was just that they have kids and wanted to make sure they had some privacy

00:12:32.540 and that they got away from the noise the insider explains.

00:12:37.160 Yeah, when you think about it, what Blake actually did, she doxed their home addresses in Ojai.

00:12:42.020 Then they moved to Tennessee and then she did it again.

00:12:45.580 How evil do you have to be to do something like that? 0.98

00:12:48.420 She knows they have children as well and she knows there are many crazy people out there.

00:12:54.060 anyways the insider says I don't think anyone wanted to live through what everyone has had to

00:12:59.020 live through of this public spectacle I did not need to be it did not need to become this at all

00:13:05.400 yeah I agree I wonder if Blake is quiet now because she's preparing some kind of big interview

00:13:14.500 on a talk show or something I have a feeling her people are shopping around thinking of a good

00:13:22.180 space for her to come out and tell her side of the story i bet you that's going to happen because

00:13:28.180 she can't just sit and watch this happen which is what she should do but she's not going to be able

00:13:33.980 to do that anyways let's talk about the way fair party's response to blake lively's legal fees as

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00:15:31.200 Okay, so let's get back into it.

00:15:32.880 So, as you know, Blake Live is asking for $8 million in legal fees.

00:15:37.900 All the attorneys I've spoken to and listened to talking about this

00:15:42.120 says it's the most insane thing they've ever heard.

00:15:45.200 I've gone through some of these expenses here on my channel,

00:15:47.880 some of the most interesting things that people found.

00:15:50.460 So, Ellen Garofalo, one of Justin Baldoni and Wayfair Party's attorneys,

00:15:54.360 she wrote a declaration here.

00:15:56.320 And then Brian Friedman also wrote a motion.

00:15:59.200 And it says here from Brian Friedman, I love how he starts this.

00:16:02.880 who says Lively claims that she's entitled to a stunning $7,495.526 in attorney's fees

00:16:11.620 for 7,070.2 hours, 7,000 hours,

00:16:18.260 billed by no fewer than 82 timekeepers to obtain the dismissal of a single defamation claim

00:16:26.300 at the pleading stage in contrast the new york times is seeking 181 000 in a fee request filed

00:16:35.760 in state court for its motion to dismiss precisely the same defamation claim and then garofalo here

00:16:41.620 goes on to say that it's impossible to spend 7 000 hours on this and she also points out how blake

00:16:47.740 is trying to claim that all of these claims here are inextricably intertwined meaning that it's

00:16:54.380 impossible to separate his counterclaim against her and her original lawsuit against him so the

00:17:01.580 judge should just put all these fees together because it's like they're so connected she also

00:17:07.180 points out here that however lively's affirmative claims including those of sh were unsuccessful

00:17:13.200 either dismissed on summary judgment or voluntarily i think this whole thing is so absurd by the way i

00:17:20.280 don't get it when you see how the legal system works sometimes i'm like this is not justice i

00:17:25.400 think we all agree on that anyways brian friedman starts off like this he says lively's fee request

00:17:30.960 is so over inclusive that it sweeps in fees for researching her own liability for perjury

00:17:38.060 erasing from her california or crd claim and her rule 11 motion for which the court has already

00:17:46.500 denied fees i actually sent him that i don't think he had seen it before after bush ago hawk

00:17:52.460 found that amazing little post on their expenses but they researched what would happen if anyone

00:17:59.900 found out if blake had committed perjury meaning that she lied in her deposition it's also so funny

00:18:07.360 to me that they're asking for rule 11 motions to be covered by the wayfair parties so rule 11 is

00:18:15.000 basically how you can punish someone for filing a frivolous lawsuit or for filing frivolous

00:18:21.500 papers and whatever. And the judge never ruled that the Wayfair Party should pay any sanctions

00:18:27.580 to Lively's team. So for them to ask them to cover their unsuccessful attempt to punish them,

00:18:36.220 then they're sending them the bill for that? I mean, then they're actually saying here,

00:18:40.820 a fee request that appears unreasonably inflated is a special circumstance permitting the trial

00:18:47.320 court to reduce the award or deny one altogether. As you know, she was awarded reasonable attorney's

00:18:55.340 fees. And then she's doing this, making it extremely unreasonable. And the wayfair party 0.71

00:19:01.100 says here, you know, your honor, you should just deny this altogether. That is a possibility.

00:19:07.760 he could just say hey you completely overreached here this is abuse of the court i don't know if

00:19:15.000 he can say that but he can say i'm not going to give you anything here someone suggested to me

00:19:20.500 that he should give her 47 dollars and oh and one cents for the 47.1 as kind of a dig i think that

00:19:28.320 would be amazing but we're starting to know judge lyman now and i think we all know that he is a

00:19:33.720 little biased in this case let's put it that way so i don't think he is going to award her nothing

00:19:39.440 but who knows wouldn't that just be the best and then they're pointing out here how lively put all

00:19:46.720 of these expenses together it wasn't done by her attorneys they hired some consultants who's not 0.83

00:19:53.920 an attorney and who's not an expert in fees so how would she know how to put this together that's

00:20:01.140 their big question here as well and they're pointing out her experiences with legal fees

00:20:05.280 is limited to several occasions on which she served as an attorney fee expert including some

00:20:11.660 large and complex matters everything is so vague and they're saying here that kantner which is the

00:20:17.880 name of this consultant that her submission deserves limited if any weight her views on

00:20:24.720 reasonableness reaches the ultimate issue and are inadmissible meaning that the judge is not

00:20:31.040 even look at this at all because it's so unreasonable and then they're getting to these

00:20:35.480 82 timekeepers or 82 attorneys and they're saying here that 71 out of these 82 people

00:20:42.720 don't have any biographical information so we don't know anything about them she could just put

00:20:48.380 or they could just put a lot of names down there and no one would really know do they have any

00:20:53.000 background as lawyers how could they charge this amount per hour if we don't even know anything

00:20:59.420 about them as they're pointing out here they're saying that 2.47 million dollars in fees billed

00:21:07.340 by timekeepers without biographical information should be deducted from lively's fee requests

00:21:13.620 like remove that altogether they're also saying here that her request for them to cover 7 000

00:21:20.300 hours of work is about 20 times the number of hours courts have found reasonable in defending

00:21:27.440 similar high profile defamation actions even those with complicated and underdeveloped legal

00:21:34.240 questions and here they're using an example from one of the companies that represents Blake Lively

00:21:39.940 Wilkie saying here that they requested $543,000 in fees and in February of 2025 the judge decided

00:21:49.440 that instead of giving them $543,000 they got $10,500. They also said here that

00:21:57.180 Wilkie had billed for 476 hours in that case. And the judge said that you will get a reasonable

00:22:05.900 amount of hours, which he calculated to be about 14 and a half hours. And then they also point out

00:22:12.000 how Lively's asking for fees related to Ryan Reynolds and to Leslie Sloan's and how should

00:22:19.240 they benefit from this 47.1 rule this me too law that is giving her these attorney's fees 1.00

00:22:27.100 they're not covered by that so why should she ask for third parties to get covered and get their

00:22:33.580 legal fees covered ridiculous and then they're talking about these costs because as you know

00:22:38.420 she's asking for fees and then on top of that she's asking for costs and they're claiming that

00:22:43.300 these costs for like faxing i don't know if they're fax anymore for stamps i guess maybe

00:22:49.480 finders to put papers in they're claiming that that ended up being 539 000 and they have no

00:22:58.680 receipts they're not sharing how they came to this amount whatsoever they're just putting that amount

00:23:04.400 there and saying hey this is what the costs are i wonder if their invoice to blake lively said the

00:23:09.420 same thing. Like here, pay us $439,000. We're not going to explain to you what it is for. We're

00:23:15.940 just going to say costs. Then Ellen Garofalo, one of Baldoni's attorneys here again, goes through

00:23:21.660 some of these posts in their expense sheets. And there's so many XXs here. So they don't want to

00:23:29.060 reveal what they spent the money on. And I remember looking at this as well, going through that sheet

00:23:33.820 that was 160 pages by the way all these xx's like here's an example entries refer to research

00:23:42.200 concerning whether pleadings can be struck xx review of an xx motion to dismiss legal issues

00:23:49.640 related to xx statements review of xx interviews and articles protective order issues xx and xx

00:23:58.740 production like as as she's saying and not only are the entries containing xx unduly vague but

00:24:07.580 many other entries without redactions makes it impossible to determine that work was actually

00:24:12.840 what work was performed they also say here that they included in these fees money spent on the

00:24:20.480 jones works action as you know there's a lot another lawsuit here stephanie jones versus uh

00:24:27.020 just to Baldoni and the Wayfair parties and Jennifer Abel specifically these other publicists 0.95

00:24:32.120 and they're also trying to charge them for that and also the New York Times motion to dismiss

00:24:38.560 and Leslie Sloan and as you know also Ryan Reynolds they're just adding everything in there

00:24:43.120 they're completely overreaching and then they're mentioning all these travel expenses as well

00:24:47.900 and that is a lot of money too and they're just saying that these attorneys went of course on

00:24:53.280 first class from between LA and New York a lot stayed in really fancy hotels and they're not

00:24:59.120 saying the reason why they took these trips were there any court hearings anything like that

00:25:04.200 anything related to this case they think that's you don't have to mention that that we don't need

00:25:09.160 to put that down we're just gonna say hey Ezra Hudson traveled to spend night to spend two nights

00:25:14.420 in a five-star hotel and the Wayfair party should pay for that like really and this one is really

00:25:19.260 funny. They're saying it's clear from Mr. Gottlieb's declaration, Mr. Gottlieb is Blake

00:25:23.720 Lively's attorney, that the approximately $173,000 in costs charged by GBX Holdings LLC

00:25:33.340 were incurred for the purpose of assessing the impact to Ms. Lively's reputation, if any,

00:25:40.100 from the way for action. So they're trying to also charge them for this company they hired

00:25:47.220 to see how much Justin Baldoni at the wafer parties had harmed Blake Lively's reputation.

00:25:56.060 Blake Lively ruined her own reputation while she sued him, as you know,

00:25:59.620 and now she's claiming that, of course, the reason why her reputation was ruined

00:26:04.320 was because he defended himself.

00:26:06.640 Also, someone on Reddit found this little expense here from an attorney called Samantha Katz

00:26:12.800 who charged 40 hours.

00:26:15.500 Samantha Katz is the one who signed off on that Van Zand lawsuit, 0.87

00:26:21.240 that sham lawsuit Blake and Ryan used to get a hold of Justin Baldoni's publicist phone.

00:26:29.000 She charged $42,000 for that, or maybe something else too.

00:26:35.960 I don't know.

00:26:36.760 Very interesting though.

00:26:38.120 Anyways, I don't know when the judge is going to rule on this,

00:26:41.620 but it should be very, very interesting to see.

00:26:44.280 I really, really hope that he dismisses the whole thing, obviously,

00:26:48.520 or he just gives her a tiny, tiny little amount

00:26:52.000 and that the media picks up on that.

00:26:54.780 I couldn't, interestingly enough,

00:26:56.720 find any articles in Deadline about this.

00:27:00.360 No Dominic Patton reporting on the Wayfair Party's response

00:27:04.940 to Blake Lively's $8 million fee action.

00:27:09.100 As you know, he's been covering this very closely for Blake Lively's attorneys,

00:27:13.940 always being the first one to have the information available

00:27:17.020 and always being the first one to make sure that the title of the story is beneficial for Blake.

00:27:25.900 Anyways, that's it for me, you guys.

00:27:27.300 Thank you so much for watching and thanks for subscribing.

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - July 16, 2026

It's ALL Coming OUT !! Justin Baldoni's billionaire backer speaks out.

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