Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - It was ALL a LIE !!

00:00:00.000 And now she's not holding back on how the judge handled this. 0.95

00:00:08.760 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk. I'm Sashdi Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:13.140 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. So Judge Lyman has ruled again.

00:00:20.420 As you know, Blake sent a letter to him yesterday asking for an extension of time

00:00:25.680 to respond to these attorneys fees because she didn't really know how to do anything and she

00:00:30.580 was going on vacation and the judge ruling came shortly after and he said surprise surprise

00:00:37.120 denied in part and granted in part which is what he always says in this case let's look into that

00:00:46.000 and what that means and also let's look into what victoria burke is saying about this now 0.94

00:00:50.840 As you know, I had her here on my channel. 0.97

00:00:53.220 She's the architect behind this Me Too law, and she came out and criticized Blake for

00:00:59.300 trying to abuse this law for PR purposes not too long ago, and now she's not holding back

00:01:04.880 on how the judge handled this.

00:01:07.220 I also want to talk about this interview with Olivia Wilde on Alex Cooper, Call Your Daddy,

00:01:12.400 one of the biggest podcasts out there.

00:01:14.400 She sat down with her for over an hour and talked about the smear campaign that Olivia

00:01:18.760 wild experienced as a director of the movie while she was dating harry styles and allegedly had a

00:01:26.240 fallout with the main actress in the movie the speculations went crazy and she was painted the

00:01:33.200 villain of the story and now she's reflecting on it and opening up about what it did to her

00:01:38.880 and where the truth lays let's get into that let's first talk about what the judge just said

00:01:44.920 He said, as I said, granted in part and denied in part, which is something that he's done

00:01:51.940 throughout this entire lawsuit, because I'm guessing he's trying to be diplomatic here

00:01:56.500 and not get himself into any trouble.

00:01:59.900 And that's what he did again.

00:02:01.300 As you know, Blake asked for a month extension on these attorney's fees, because as I speculated

00:02:07.220 yesterday, they're probably trying to broaden these legal fees so they would come off as 0.70

00:02:13.860 a bit more impressive especially when the press is covering how much money she's getting if she's 1.00

00:02:18.800 only getting a hundred thousand dollars it's going to be hard for them to it's going to be hard for

00:02:23.760 them to convince that that is a huge win for Blake so now they're just trying to add to these fees as

00:02:30.080 much as possible and as I said yesterday if they add a month of work when they're working on getting

00:02:35.800 these fees then of course they're going to try to bill for that as well so the judge said that both

00:02:41.780 parties now have to leave a memorandum of law no more than 10 double spaced pages that's a lot

00:02:49.600 excluding a table of content and table of authorities okay laying out the legal principle

00:02:55.560 that they believe the court should consider so both parties here have to do an analysis of what

00:03:01.940 47.1 really means so they're creating the law it seems like to me by telling the judge what they

00:03:10.080 believe this law should be and what it should cover I'm suspecting that Blake is going to try

00:03:16.500 to get attorney's fees covered even after Justin Baldoni's lawsuit was dismissed we know it was

00:03:23.160 dismissed in June and I'm sure her lawyers are going to be super creative trying to connect some

00:03:28.900 of their later invoices because I'm sure they already invoiced Blake Lively for this stuff

00:03:33.220 trying to say that we were still just defending ourselves against that lawsuit in September like

00:03:39.220 three four months later I don't know I think obviously there is a reason why they wanted

00:03:44.060 this extension of time but anyways now they have until June 29th to send these memorandums these

00:03:52.040 10 pages so I'm guessing as they said Michael Gottlieb is out of the country so they needed

00:03:58.360 more time now they're gonna have a lot more work to do because now they have to write these 10 pages

00:04:05.180 as well while he's away on vacation but anyways let's look at what Victoria Burke said on Billy

00:04:12.140 Bush yesterday because as you know she is the author and the or the architect behind this law

00:04:19.100 and she came out about a couple of weeks ago and said you know I'm not happy that this law is being

00:04:24.580 abused by someone like Blake Lively this law was not meant for someone like her and I really don't

00:04:30.400 think that she should get attorney's fees. And Billy Bush asked her, what do you feel now when

00:04:35.680 the judge has granted Blake to get these attorney's fees? And Victoria was not too excited about that.

00:04:42.360 I was surprised. I thought he would need to have, you know, go to trial to see if Miles actually

00:04:50.540 existed or not. So what Victoria pointed out in the interview is that she felt that there should

00:04:58.660 have been a jury trial to decide whether Blake acted with malice or not. It's always a question

00:05:06.840 of malice here. What sounds most logical to me is that Baldoni's team would have to prove that they

00:05:15.680 didn't act in malice, suing her back, saying, here are all the receipts. We really believe that she

00:05:23.340 was lying. She wasn't telling the truth. That would have been something that they could possibly

00:05:27.980 prove as i said yesterday as well they can't prove if blake acted with malice what went on in her

00:05:33.440 head when she filed this lawsuit thinking i know this is not true but i'm gonna put it on these

00:05:39.020 legal papers anyways of course they wouldn't be able to prove that but what victoria said is

00:05:43.440 that the judge should have given them more of an opportunity to prove that and they should have

00:05:48.120 been informed that they had to prepare for that instead of the judge just assuming as she's saying

00:05:54.280 that there was no malice because they couldn't prove it so she said that she wished that they

00:06:00.580 would have had the opportunity to show more facts first anyways this is the way things are now and

00:06:07.000 as i said victoria is not excited about this this was not the purpose of this law but victoria also

00:06:12.700 said that she thought that the judge acted and ruled the way he did because he wanted to protect

00:06:17.560 this law he wanted to protect it for future victims and that is important to keep in mind

00:06:24.180 and i think also that's something that i've heard brian friedman talk about how justin also wanted

00:06:30.720 this law to be tested because he believes that this law could be good if used in the right way

00:06:36.940 obviously and not against him the way it was but as you know this law was actually meant

00:06:41.160 to protect survivors and not not Blake Lively obviously. Yeah I also find it very confusing

00:06:48.420 that since all her SH claims were dropped that the judge himself said there was no SH here

00:06:55.780 and still she could use this law that was supposed to protect victims of SH and he decided she's not

00:07:04.500 a victim of SH. Yeah it makes absolutely no sense. All right you guys I'm getting a little Blake

00:07:10.360 fatigue, I have to admit. But anyway, so let's move on to something else. Olivia Wilde, this

00:07:16.460 interview was really fascinating. She talks about basically being cancelled in Hollywood. There are

00:07:22.560 some really interesting similarities to all the controversies surrounding these movies that became

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00:09:48.060 Olivia Wilde's movie became one of the most talked about tabloid stories and scandals of that year

00:09:56.260 and I think of that decade maybe. Everyone was so invested in this story and we never really got to

00:10:04.360 the truth. So if you followed it you probably know that Olivia Wilde was directing the movie

00:10:09.920 and one of the stars in the movie Harry Styles became her real life love interest as well

00:10:17.240 and then there was a lot of friction on set between Olivia Wilde and her main actress Florence Pug.

00:10:25.600 None of the women commented on this while this was going on but people hadn't even realized I

00:10:31.820 think that Olivia Wilde had separated from her husband already and there were a lot of rumors

00:10:36.600 that her and Harry Style fell in love on this set and that they had an affair in front of everyone

00:10:42.080 else and that really bothered Florence Pug and she didn't want to do any press with Olivia Wilde

00:10:48.720 and she didn't want to pose with her and there were these rumors that they were feuding on set 0.54

00:10:54.120 that they were yelling at each other and that Florence has said that Olivia was not a good 0.72

00:10:59.420 leader and then I remember there were other rumors saying that Florence was jealous of Olivia because

00:11:06.400 she was dating Harry Styles but neither of these women ever confirmed that there was any feud

00:11:12.440 between them what I did learn from this interview that I'm going to share some clips from is that

00:11:18.300 Olivia and her then husband Jason Sudeikis broke up or separated just before lockdown just before

00:11:27.740 just in the middle of COVID basically and that means that they probably had been separated for

00:11:33.420 a year at this time when she started dating Harry Styles I don't know the exact timing there but she

00:11:40.360 said in this interview that when you break up with someone just before lockdown you have to

00:11:45.260 basically live together and co-parent in the same house as the person that you're separated from

00:11:51.960 but anyway so I don't know exactly what happened there no one knows except Olivia Wilde obviously

00:11:57.500 and maybe Harry Styles on top of that Shia LaBeouf entered the drama so Shia LaBeouf was 0.97

00:12:04.180 supposed to have a role in the movie and Olivia Wilde came out publicly and said that she fired

00:12:10.540 him basically because she wanted to protect Florence Pug from Shia I don't know if there

00:12:17.140 was any details about why she felt that she needed protection from him but as everyone knows Shia LaBeouf

00:12:23.860 has some anger issues and there's been a lot of reports about him not knowing how to behave he

00:12:29.860 was just in a bar fight I think in New Orleans recently and he's basically known in the industry

00:12:35.340 for having a lot of demons let's put it that way then that pissed off Shia LaBeouf because he was

00:12:40.440 like no that didn't happen and then he actually published some text messages showing that Olivia

00:12:48.120 Wilde never fired him. She was actually begging him to still be a part of the movie, but he didn't

00:12:54.680 want to himself. So that contradicted what Olivia Wilde had said publicly. So then people were like,

00:13:02.000 oh, she wasn't truthful about that. What else is she not truthful about? Then there were rumors

00:13:08.880 that Florence Pug, who was a main lead in the movie, got paid less than Harry Styles. Those

00:13:16.460 rumors were shut down actually from Warner Bros saying that, you know, that's not the case. They

00:13:21.760 had the same salary. But of course, that added to the rumors that Pug had been treated unfairly by

00:13:28.420 Olivia Wilde. Then of course, adding to that, there was the spit gate, as it was called. So

00:13:35.380 when Harry Styles and Chris Pine were at the movie premiere in Venice, Chris Pine also had a part in

00:13:42.160 this movie it looked like harry style was spitting on chris pine during the the standing ovation i

00:13:50.040 think it was and of course the internet just lost its mind over that saying like look oh my gosh

00:13:55.580 there's friction there too everyone's just piling on to this drama and everyone just loved it it was

00:14:01.760 the best entertainment and escapism of the year at the end chris pine's reps actually came out and

00:14:07.900 said you know it's not true there was no spitting there and everyone was like oh no don't take away

00:14:12.620 the fun for us but anyways on top of this Jason Sudeikis who was married to Olivia Wilde before

00:14:21.200 she directed this movie the one she separated just before covid he served her divorce papers

00:14:29.580 when she was on stage in comic-con and of course those headlines were everywhere as well and she

00:14:37.620 was just standing there of course the video clip from that just like leaked instantly so we could

00:14:42.980 all see her expression on her face when she was like oh okay uh that's great and then she had to

00:14:47.940 continue with her speech she was very professional in that moment i have to say and she said in this

00:14:52.500 interview with alex cooper that jason didn't mean to actually serve her on stage it was the lawyers

00:14:59.400 who did that but anyways what i really found fascinating about this interview is some of the

00:15:04.040 things that Olivia Wilde is saying now. She disappeared for about three four years after

00:15:08.960 this happened. She decided to remove herself from all the scandals and all the drama and her and

00:15:15.360 Harry Styles split up as you know. They were together for about two years and I think she was

00:15:20.760 pretty heartbroken after that split. We saw some pictures of her looking heartbroken at least but

00:15:25.420 who knows. I don't trust anything that I read anymore. But anyways in this interview she talks

00:15:30.960 about how the press decided early on what the narrative should be here. And I feel like we saw

00:15:36.280 the same thing at It Ends With Us. The tabloids decided that Blake Lively was a victim from the

00:15:43.780 beginning here, and then they kept spinning on that. And Olivia Wilde says in this interview

00:15:49.040 that the media decided that she was the villain from the beginning. And then Alex Cooper is

00:15:54.480 referring to this as a smear campaign. Of course, that word is something that we connect with 0.93

00:16:00.060 Blake Lively at this point and I'm not sure if that's why she mentioned the word smear campaign

00:16:06.740 and similar can you talk to me about the frustration though of seeing essentially

00:16:11.680 a smear campaign being created and not like you can't you can't come out and and dispel 0.99

00:16:20.360 every single rumor because then you look like a fucking crazy lady and it was so hard because I 0.99

00:16:25.400 wanted to be like can I just talk to people can I just go and say like that's not true that's not 0.99

00:16:31.200 true and it was like no that won't help and that was really hard yeah I don't know who in Hollywood

00:16:36.180 came up with the idea that you should not come out and correct what's wrong if that is such bad PR

00:16:42.520 why do publicists say just stay quiet don't add fuel to the fire by coming out defending yourself

00:16:49.820 because they're going to twist your words around you can actually come out yourself now you don't

00:16:54.920 have to be interviewed by some journalists to come out and defend yourself you can do it on

00:16:59.040 your own social media I don't know if it would have helped Olivia in this situation but I feel

00:17:04.820 devastated for her when you are in a situation like that and you're like okay that's not true

00:17:10.420 that's not true that's not what happened but you can't come out and correct it and also as she said

00:17:16.440 here you know I understand why the public was so fascinated by this the frustration you feel so

00:17:24.600 angry thing is like i get it like shit's hard the world is insane and the escapism of the tabloids

00:17:34.480 is something that is in a way very soothing for people it's understandable and that's such a weird 0.71

00:17:42.120 thing that we we all are are capable of so yeah it's a great escape and i think we really needed

00:17:49.720 that during COVID or this was in 2022. So right after COVID. And I think we've seen the same

00:17:55.580 thing now with this Blake Lively mess. It's been such a great escape for people. It's been a way

00:18:02.460 to forget about everything else that's happening in the world that feels really unfair. And instead

00:18:07.480 of worrying about your own life, you can invest in these celebrity lives and have opinions about

00:18:13.440 them. And as she said in this interview as well, you know, people were constantly looking for new

00:18:18.820 evidence that they could just pile on to this narrative that they had already decided for her

00:18:24.400 I really like the way she speaks about this it was really interesting to hear how it was for her

00:18:29.160 of course to go through that but also the reflections that she has now looking back and

00:18:34.100 what she actually learned from this and she also admits that it's not a good idea to always come

00:18:39.360 off as being strong and I am not affected by any of this because I'm a strong woman I'm just going

00:18:44.780 go on that red carpet and pretend like nothing and she said that that really harmed her in a way

00:18:50.980 because people thought it was not authentic and then they were like even piling on more like hey

00:18:56.600 you're not in pain we're gonna make sure that you're in pain so showing no vulnerability

00:19:01.320 didn't help her at all and I think Blake Lively has actually done the exact same thing pretending

00:19:08.300 like she's not affected by any of this pretending that she's such a strong woman and that makes her

00:19:14.540 come off as ignorant I have to say there's a big difference between Olivia Wilde and Blake Lively

00:19:19.660 of course but they had this thing in common that they were both cast as a villain in a story but

00:19:25.280 I don't think that Blake will ever reflect on things the way they happen the way Olivia Wilde

00:19:30.800 has obviously I have to say I've met Olivia Wilde once at a party and I talked to her for about 30

00:19:36.260 minutes I think about her movie and she came off as so genuine and sweet and so mesmerizing in a

00:19:43.020 way her eyes are just hypnotizing and I remember just staring at her like wow she is so beautiful

00:19:50.060 so when I heard all these stories about her I was like no that's not true she was so nice she

00:19:54.660 seemed so nice but yeah as I said I met her for such a short amount of time so what do I know

00:19:59.400 but anyways I do feel like she's a very different person than Blake Lively obviously so Alex Cooper

00:20:04.920 kept asking her about being criticized about everything else too because people were jumping

00:20:09.800 on her for everything like what she was wearing how she was posing her looks everything and i just

00:20:17.620 saw recently people were attacking her appearance as well because she looked so frail and skinny in 0.73

00:20:23.360 a video and everyone's like oh my god she's so sick she's skinny she's so unhealthy skinny but

00:20:29.900 what i noticed this time is that olivia actually came out and joked about it and explained it it

00:20:37.340 It was a fisheye lens and not the best.

00:20:40.080 I don't know why I was so close to the camera.

00:20:42.140 I didn't have to be.

00:20:43.700 But she said something else that caught my attention,

00:20:46.180 mentioning, you know, how her ex-husband,

00:20:48.560 now her ex-husband, Jason Sudeikis,

00:20:50.320 was photographed during this time

00:20:51.880 when she was with Harry Style.

00:20:53.400 He was photographed with his girlfriend

00:20:55.420 on a beach somewhere, which she said, you know,

00:20:57.460 she knew about that.

00:20:58.400 It was her week with the kids.

00:21:00.240 And then the tabloids were like,

00:21:01.740 oh, look at him.

00:21:02.900 He's enjoying life.

00:21:03.880 He's so good to see. 0.93

00:21:05.020 But when she was out with her boyfriend at the time, Harry Style, they were like, oh, she's such a bad mother.

00:21:11.420 She's not with her kids.

00:21:12.820 And she was like, well, my husband, my ex-husband had my kids that week because they were co-parenting 50-50. 0.72

00:21:19.500 But because she is a woman and they were looking at her with her younger boyfriend, then that was not cool.

00:21:26.360 And I do believe that women get judged much more easily for these things than men do, obviously.

00:21:32.460 And just because Olivia was with a younger man and we're not used to seeing that, it

00:21:36.880 became like this huge scandal.

00:21:38.960 It's like, that's what men in Hollywood do all the time when they get divorced.

00:21:43.380 Most of them find a younger girlfriend.

00:21:46.660 We see it over and over and over again. 1.00

00:21:49.260 But when a woman do it, it's like, that's not okay. 1.00

00:21:51.960 I don't know where the truth lays here, but I feel like there's so much to learn here 1.00

00:21:56.000 for especially publicists and people in PR on how to deal with the crisis.

00:22:01.460 But I think the biggest difference here is that the public jumped on the same narrative as the press did.

00:22:08.680 For it ends with us, the public didn't agree with the media.

00:22:11.860 And I've never experienced anything like that before.

00:22:14.280 That there is such a big gap between the public opinion and how mainstream media is reporting on something.

00:22:20.500 And it doesn't matter where you are on the political spectrum either in this case.

00:22:24.760 And it ends with us.

00:22:26.160 Everyone agrees.

00:22:27.520 Who is the villain in that story?

00:22:29.340 and it will never change anyways that's it for me today you guys thank you so much for watching

00:22:36.400 i hope you enjoyed this episode sorry oscar is not here my executive producer he is out on a walk

00:22:42.900 so he couldn't make it today but he's gonna help me with editing later so anyways thanks again for

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 21, 2026

It was ALL a LIE !!

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