Nelson Aspen's juicy Hollywood inside stories
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Jashti Floh and Nelson Aspen talk about the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills, California, and the time they met Justin Bieber in the elevator. Plus, they talk about what it's like to be on a celebrity junket.
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The miracle of camera phones and Zoom meetings.
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So I'll be especially unfettered for you today.
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Thank you for inviting me here at Four Seasons.
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because this is like the junket hotel, I would say.
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Wouldn't you say this is like the junket hotel?
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I would tell you about Jeremy Renner out there on the terrace.
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I would tell you about Chris Hemsworth in the gym.
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Like, I stayed on the treadmill an extra half an hour
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I don't know the numbers, but it was impressive.
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But yeah, this is the junket hotel in Los Angeles.
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And I would say, we were trying to compare numbers earlier.
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I would say at least a thousand junkets I've done in here over the years.
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Over 20 years of doing junkets, I think maybe a thousand were here.
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And in this hotel, it was almost impossible any day of the week
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to walk around here without it being a junket somewhere in some room,
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and there, you know, Amal Clooney is walking out looking fabulous.
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Or I remember one time we were riding up in the elevator
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The Four Seasons elevators are the slowest and the worst.
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and there was Kathleen Turner waiting to get on.
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she would not want to get into a tiny cramped elevator.
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there were especially large numbers of stars here.
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But what's interesting is now that I'm back as a guest
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I was talking to a lot of the staff that I've known forever.
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Like the same staff, it shows you that it's a happy workplace.
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But they said there are almost no junkets anymore.
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The studios are saving millions because they're not flying us around.
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There's no reason to spend the millions on the three-dimensional experience.
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Well, so we don't meet people in person anymore.
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But there was been, it's been a while since I was here.
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From what I hear, it might have been, but it wasn't.
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Because I went out for a morning run and, you know, I was all sweaty.
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And I thought, oh, I'm just going to throw my sweaty clothes out on the terrace.
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And yeah, I thought I had some privacy in my room.
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So I went out onto the terrace to throw my sweaty clothes on.
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And I, you know, once my clothes were off and being placed on the balcony,
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And I, all of a sudden I see that somebody is staring at me from the next balcony.
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And it was Jeremy Renner having a cigarette on the next balcony.
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And I, of course, it was immediately embarrassed and covered myself with my hands and went back inside.
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So I came, I came out like on my belly crawling across the floor
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so I could get a picture of Jeremy Renner smoking,
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No, but you know, you get into those moments and you,
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the first thing you're thinking as a journalist is like,
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I need to get some evidence from this situation.
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And I've interviewed, I didn't bring that up in the interview,
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He might be more playful with like a Jimmy Kimmel or something with a broader audience.
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But for me, he was never a very playful interview.
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I did have a good interview with him once, actually.
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But now that everything that's been going on with him,
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I was really like, so much going on with Jeremy Renner.
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If you guys missed that, he was just kind of accused by this director or...
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Female that accused him of sending him her inappropriate photographs of himself.
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And I thought there's something off about that story.
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why he would be sending him to this particular woman as opposed to somebody else.
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I don't want to see your inappropriate selfies.
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For me, I always, when I hear the stories like this,
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I'm always thinking, what is her motivation for posting about this on social media?
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Didn't they have an issue about the use of his voice?
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But still, it doesn't make sense to me why she's doing this.
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But if you are in a consensual relationship with someone that...
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And you send each other photos and videos like that.
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Well, you get to a certain age, nobody wants to see your selfies.
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Like, I feel like since Jeremy Renner had an accident and he almost died, like, how does
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Well, who says the pictures were post-accident?
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This is what it looked like 20 years ago, before the accident.
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But since we're here in LA and we're gearing up to award season, which is why all the actors,
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all the talents are out there pushing their movies right now, inviting people to a lot
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You've seen them in action during award season.
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And we were just talking, or you were sending me this little news thing on Billy Bob Thornton.
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Well, Billy Bob Thornton is not a hot property that he may have been, you know, 20 Angelina Jolie
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But at the risk of sounding like an old fart, Billy Bob came out to say that he didn't think
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This has been ever since Marlon Brando didn't show up to get his Oscar and the Sachin Little
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Feather, I think her name was, but the Native American who got up to accept Marlon Brando's
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award on his behalf to make a political speech.
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But Billy Bob Thornton doesn't think celebrities should be political.
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What was the girl from Hacks when she won her award the other day and was doing something
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But at an award show, is that the right place to do it?
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I have my own opinion as to what I would like to see, but that doesn't make it right or
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But I applaud Billy Bob for being the grumpy old man in the room and saying, keep it to
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Well, first of all, I don't know why journalists ask actors about politics sometimes anyway,
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So I don't, unless I'm educated about something, then I generally don't give my opinion about
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it, because that can be irresponsible, you know.
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And sometimes people do listen to you if you're in the public eye.
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And if you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Something else you said in that interview, I think it was on page six, that he went on
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Joe Rogan, I think, and then he said, you know, if you want to save the badges in Minnesota
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And that is a good point, because I feel like all these celebrities that are, you know, telling
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us what to do and what to think, instead of actually taking some actions themselves, because
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And then you, yeah, and then you can post about it on social media.
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But I feel like these award shows now, it's kind of that they're trying so desperately to
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try to find a purpose for them, you know, because it is like they're inviting audiences in to
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watch them go up on a stage and brag about themselves and their colleagues.
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And maybe they just want to add something more to it to get some headlines.
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Well, I also just don't, I don't understand who's still going to the movies.
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I mean, the whole, the whole system to me seems broken because I, we were talking about
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Like, I can't even remember the last time I went to a movie theater and saw a movie.
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And if you, if there is something in the theater, you know, if you just wait a couple of weeks,
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you'll be able to stream it and not have to go through the ordeal of getting to the theater
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And just even to have the movie going experience, you were telling me about some climate control
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So I went to see a screening the other day and I have to admit, we did go to watch the movie
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And we were thinking, okay, food, we'll make it, we'll make a date night out of it.
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And we went to the screening, which was on one edition here at a hotel here in LA, beautiful hotel.
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They were blowing out of the air conditioning as well.
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So my hair was just blowing through the whole thing and my eyes got really dry.
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So I had to sit down on first row and I was borrowing a scarf from my friend.
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Are these first world problems like you have never heard before?
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Wouldn't you, wouldn't you rather be cold than be hot?
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Because being cold is, I think that's terrible.
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You're sitting there and you're being tortured by this freezing cold breeze being like blown in your face for like two and a half hours.
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And there's always a journalist doing the Q&As afterwards.
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And they always hire these journalists to do these.
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And they're asking the most incredibly boring questions.
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The movies that are winning awards are not making money at the box office.
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I just saw that they put the new Superman movie and David Cornswet up for Golden Globe consideration because they want to get award buzz going for it.
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Who was Lois Lane is being proposed for consideration for supporting actress.
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Like you need to find somewhere where creative achievements match box office.
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And we tried to think at lunch, what won the Oscar for Best Picture last year?
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It was a small independent film which had no Hollywood credibility in terms of money.
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And the thing is, with these award shows or to win an Oscar, I remember the year Roma won.
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And I remember reading that they spent $50 million on promoting the movie for the Oscar campaign, which was twice of what the movie actually cost to make.
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And then you're thinking, like, is it worth it?
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I wonder how many people went to see that movie in the theaters, a black and white film.
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Can you name any of the winners from last year?
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Unless there's a La La Land moment or, you know, some snafu, you don't remember from year to year.
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Previous years, like a while back, you know, you always heard about those Oscar buzz movies.
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No, I mean, it used to be really, it would start with the Toronto Film Festival.
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And that was when the good movies started hitting.
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And then in the fall, you would get the really prestige films.
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And Toronto was fabulous because you could do 10 junkets in four days.
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And see all these movies and interview all these stars.
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And it's, it is so liberating not to have to worry about chasing that.
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Well, we were also talking about earlier, like something I mentioned in an episode recently.
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You know, Sidney Sweeney, she got Oscar bust for her latest movie.
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And then the other day, it was announced, yes, that it's like, it goes down in history as the 10th or 11th, like worst opening in a, for a wide audience in theaters in American history.
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Like, that's actually what I like best about her is she doesn't make any excuses.
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She doesn't vacillate if somebody criticizes her.
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And she's certainly gotten a lot of criticism in the last few months.
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She owns herself and is comfortable in her own skin.
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But I do think, though, that it will lower her chances of getting an Oscar.
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And as we spoke about politics and the Oscars, I think there's a lot of politics involved.
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And I think if you had like a big controversy behind you, like Sidney Sweeney now does with that ad for American Eagle, I think your chances are getting a lot slimmer.
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Yeah, well, maybe she'll be nominated just so they can, you know, root against her.
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Maybe because that's, you know, Hollywood's kind of nasty that way.
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Maybe they'll just nominate her to torture her and hope she loses or have a campaign against her, which I hope is not the case.
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No, because I'm thinking, you know, looking back, like, have, do we have any, like, openly Republicans who've ever won an Oscar?
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Remember that whole thing that he did with the chair on stage?
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It was a whole political, I think it was maybe the GOP convention.
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Clint Eastwood gave a whole very conservative speech with a chair.
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But I don't know why politics are so important to audiences, why the talents politics is so important, and yet it is.
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But we have an intense interest on their homes, on their makeup, on who they're dating, on who, you know.
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So, of course, that would follow politics as well.
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Yeah, but I wonder, you know, if, yeah, because you mentioned Clint Eastwood.
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I can't mention that many other, except for, what was that?
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I mean, I don't know what party they are affiliated with, but I can assume.
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I feel like there's some closeted Republicans out there, probably.
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So obviously there are closet Republican voters.
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But, hey, you got, I was around in the 80s when AIDS was a thing and devastating the community.
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And so sexuality and something, you know, that's not, that's not over either.
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But somebody's sexuality was so hidden, now political affiliation is like sexuality was then.
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There are just certain off-limit things to be hidden or disguised or suppressed or spun.
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Let's get back to this hotel again, because I want to hear about your first ever junket experience.
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My very first, I think my very first junket experience was actually in New York at the
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Mandarin Hotel with Nat, was it Natalie Portman?
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But if I were to see a movie, now when I see a movie, I don't just enjoy seeing the
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movie or remark on something about the performances.
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Now, when you see a film, you go, oh, yeah, I remember that was the junket at the Four
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Dwayne Johnson junkets were great because you would travel.
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But that is so true, because I always travel for him.
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No, I did two of the Fast movies, and I think they were both here in Los...
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All in Los Angeles, and not so pleasant because of the other one.
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Or, yeah, I mean, how many hours together have we waited for Vin Diesel to show up at interviews?
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How many weeks of our lives were spent waiting for Vin Diesel?
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However, I will say, when you actually get to sit with Vin Diesel and they go, speed, rolling, he's very charming.
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You do forgive him almost immediately because he's so charming.
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But you want to hate him because he's wasted your time.
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And I think when I met him, we were at the Universal Studios and we all had to wear masks because it was COVID.
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So I was sitting there sweating all day with a mask on.
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He doesn't have to wear a mask because he's a celebrity.
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Like, are there different rules for COVID because you're a celebrity?
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He started off being like a little bit annoying.
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And then, of course, when he was seven hours late.
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So I felt like I had like a, I don't know, you know, you get this sweaty kind of marks around.
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Well, it's funny because I watch your show on YouTube and I love to read the comments, which are just as entertaining as anything else.
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And when we talked about Vin Diesel's chronic lateness before, a lot of people were like, well, I wouldn't put up with that.
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But when you're getting paid to you, you don't, if you don't do the interview, you don't make any money.
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So if you're already there for six hours, you're not just going to walk out.
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So you're in a really terrible position because, I don't know, you can't just walk out.
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And then the thing is, you, like you're saying, you have to deliver.
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And also, if you walk out, the, the publicist of that person, they're never going to invite you back again.
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We all got stuck in Vegas for an extra day because Justin Timberlake, and it was for something like really hard hitting, like he was the voice of Yogi Booboo Bear or something.
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And the junket was in Las Vegas, and he was so inconsiderate with the journalist's time that we all ended up missing our flights.
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But that must have cost the studio to not only rebook all our flights, but to put us all up in Vegas for an extra night.
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Staying in Vegas for an extra night when you just want to go home to your bed, that's, it's.
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And then that's another thing that I always like, feel like, you know, we're just at the bottom.
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And I don't, I don't think I ever signed any non-disclosure things.
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I've been given, not NTAs, but I've been given other, like, just, like, things.
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Confidentiality about, maybe about, we always were signing things for the screening.
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Or you're only going to use this interview for your show.
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So, yeah, I mean, there were contractual obligations, but nothing's stopping us from saying who's an asshole and who's lovely.
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No, as long as we were working in this industry, I guess a lot of people didn't want to talk about it and still don't because they want to get invited back, which, you know, makes sense.
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I ran into a journalist here in the elevator just a couple of hours ago who I haven't seen since before COVID.
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But still, I thought she would have recognized me.
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It was a familiarity that she wasn't expecting.
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And for her, it was like, oh, my God, I'm working.
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But I guess, you know, when I do junkies, I get into this mindset.
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Especially if you have, like, seven people you're interviewing in a row.
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So, you know, you get this kind of more like a flowing conversation with people.
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I mean, if there was something specific I wanted to make sure I get, I would make a note to myself and I would have little cards.
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But otherwise, I would just go in there and have a chat.
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And I would love when the publicists would get all, you know, beside themselves and say, we're really tight for time.
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I need just to prove that I'm in the same room.
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And if I'm so much trouble for you to have one or two minutes, why did you invite me?
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All trying to help promote your horrible movie.
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Well, I was working very differently than you because I was freelancing for this TV show and they only wanted personal stuff.
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And to get to the personal stuff, you had to warm up people, you know, to kind of sneak it in there saying, like, your character, you know, in this movie after the divorce.
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That's why Reese Witherspoon's people, like, wanted to inject me.
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Because I was at Reese Witherspoon was playing a mother in peril.
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So I asked her, like, as a mother, they wanted nothing.
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Like this voice from beyond was like, Nelson, ask another question.
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And I'm like, it's she's Reese Witherspoon is a mother playing a mother.
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But I find a lot of times if they this boss looks very familiar to me.
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I find a lot of times that if you just oblige the publicist and the publicist will say, don't ask any personal questions.
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And then the celebrity feels comfortable and safe.
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I am wearing my most horrific interview tee shirt.
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You know, I didn't wear this for many years because I thought it was really bad luck.
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No, but you know you have things that you feel like, oh, is that a bad, you know, something wearing that.
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Because or if you had something like every time I wear that, I have so much fun.
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With this blouse, I did the worst interview of my career.
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The most controversial interview of your career.
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Like, what would happen if you went into a restaurant in Beverly Hills and either Blake or Justin were sitting at the next table?
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If Justin was sitting there, I would definitely walk up to him.
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Blake, I would definitely not walk up to Blake.
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If I was wearing this blouse, I think she's walked back.
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Because I think that he, yeah, he doesn't like me very much.
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You know, I'm on the list of people with special...
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They just released the list two weeks ago now of a list of people they think have knowledge to the situation of what happened on the set of It Ends With Us and what's happened in that smear campaign.
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Actually, you should all come on my Irish trip.
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You know, I'm doing that Irish trip in October of 2026.
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And what I'm trying to do is make it like a friend's holiday.
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So what are you doing on that trip for people who doesn't know why you're trying?
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Well, I've become, since my showbiz retirement transition, I've become a Titanic...
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I've written a book about Titanic called Kindred Spirits.
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And that's another reason why I'm in Hollywood.
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There might be a little Hollywood action on Kindred Spirits.
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But yeah, now I travel the world speaking about Titanic.
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Whether it's on cruises, going over the rec site, or at Titanic exhibitions and things like that.
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But I'll be, in October of 2026, leading a Titanic-tinged tour around Ireland.
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Starting in Dublin and ending up in Belfast, the birthplace of Titanic.
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So, I mean, it's just a great way if you've never been to Ireland or there are places you haven't been in Ireland that you want to see.
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My website, my social media, Nelson Aspen, that's so easy.
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But there is a designated travel page where you can get all the information.
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There are special deals and packages and discounts.
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A whole bunch of different stops along the way.
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Like something like 18 meals are included along the way.
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There are extra packages if you want to extend your trip.
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And I'm really excited about it because I've always loved to travel.
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And now I, instead of traveling for junkets, I'm traveling for Titanic.
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And I don't have to, I don't have to shave anymore.
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You didn't have to do that for your, for doing junkets, did you?
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Oh, well, it's funny because one time I grew, I had grown my beard and my executive producer
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And then I had the beard and I was actually growing it.
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I was growing it for a marathon and I was running a marathon and I just wanted to be hairy
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I thought, I thought it'll make me faster if I look like a caveman or something.
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And he sent me an email out of the blue saying, I'm not loving the beard.
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And I didn't know if that was, you know, and it was the big boss.
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And in Australia, where I was reporting to, Movember is a big deal where all the men grow
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So I had told him, I'm growing this for the marathon.
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And he said, well, at the end of the month, maybe you'll lose the beard.
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So I waited until after the marathon and then I shaved again.
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And I remember one day hearing my colleagues in Australia during a commercial break.
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I had the earpiece in my ear and it was a commercial break and I could hear them all
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talking amongst themselves in the studio in Sydney.
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And there was somebody was saying, one man was saying to another man, are you growing?
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Hey, mate, are you growing a mustache for Movember?
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And the other guy said, no, Nelson ruined it for us this year.
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Because the boss had put a no facial hair for men policy in effect because of my beard.
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Now I get it, why you'd really want to grow it.
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So we have to talk quickly about what you told me over lunch.
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I didn't know about this phenomenon that like washed up old Hollywood stars are attending
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She doesn't know about the autograph world of sort of fallen stars, but it's even not
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But people want contact with their favorite celebrities.
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And there is a phenomena where celebrities of yesteryear who may not have the work opportunities
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that they used to have or the fame that they used to have, yet they are a kitsch, nostalgic
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I love I love thinking about, you know, the shows of my youth, whether that was the Brady
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Bunch or the Partridge family or Lost in Space or Star Trek.
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So you want to see these beloved stars, Barbara Eaton from I Dream of Jeannie.
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And so there are autograph shows and the celebrities of yesteryear, they show up at these things with
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their eight by 10 photographs and they sign them.
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And you either pay to attend the autograph show or you pay per autograph.
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And I have a few old lady friends who, you know, they'll be signing their autographs, but
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they can't be afraid to get their hands dirty with cash.
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And they're like, oh, you know, can I have a selfie with you?
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I loved watching you on TV as I was growing up.
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But they'll say, that'll be another ten dollars.
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But that's how you, that's how a lot of them survive.
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But it's not just, it's not just financial, but there's also a satisfaction.
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And you know something I've been thinking about, like, especially if you are famous or
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if you were like a big movie star, aging is even harder.
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And I think when you're used to, you know, getting so much attention and being on top of
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the world and then people start forgetting you, that must be really hard for some of these
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people because I think a lot of actors, they really crave to get validation and attention.
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It's even, and sick and infirmed and have health challenges.
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But if you're famous, it's even more difficult because, you know, we're all, we're all human.
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And Sally Kirkland, the Oscar nominated Golden Globe winning Sally Kirkland passed away this
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She'd been struggling with dementia, but she was being cared for by a fan.
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But yeah, and that's, you know, what happens to a lot of these famous people?
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You think, oh, well, you know, I don't know, Brad Pitt, he's got millions and millions of
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But there are a lot of people that stars that don't have millions and millions of dollars.
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There's a, in, in the Valley, there's the motion picture home where if you have enough
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credits and I had an old actress friend named Carol Lindley who never had to go into the
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motion picture home, she passed away before that eventuality.
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But she used to, she used to be reassured because she had enough acting credits that she was
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like, well, at least I can get into the motion picture home.
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It's an old folks home for people in the industry, whether that's directors or actors or set designers,
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But you have to, you pay for it, of course, but you also have to have enough credits, professional
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Well, we don't want to do that either, but I do find that whole thing.
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And also, as you said, a lot of these older Hollywood starlets are trying to especially
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Well, I mean, there's, there is, there is a stereotype that is very true.
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I mean, there's a reason why stereotypes are stereotypes there because they occur often,
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but there are a lot of older ladies who are single, who need, need help.
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They need an escort if they're going somewhere, or maybe they need a hand around the house.
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And you see a lot of these older faded starlets, like a Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, but
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they, they tend to gravitate toward younger gay men who loved their work.
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They're fans who appreciate what they contributed to the art form and are happy to help.
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And it's, I don't know, there's, there's something good about that.
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I've had a few older ladies over the years, um, be very excited to like, Oh, would you like
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to take me to an event at the Beverly Hills hotel or yeah.
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And it's, it's fun, but I, there's a certain older lady who is no longer with us who actually
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And that's when I was like, I'll sell my house.
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If you bring your crazy town to my street, I can't do it.
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Well, it's, it's, Betty Davis had an embroidered pillow that said, needlepoint.
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But the pillow said, old age is no place for sissies because it's tough to get old.
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And Betty Davis did it with style, as much style as she could muster.
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I've been thinking things like that a lot lately.
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It's not like when I used to bring people up to my room in the old days, but Jeremy Renner
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And Antonio Banderas is not doing pretzels in the gym or Chris Hemsworth is not pushing
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We'll see when I, when I'm all in the elevator.
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They're all, you know, Kathleen Turner can't get in the elevator.
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I did see some celebrities on my way up to see you earlier, actually.
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I don't remember her name, but she's a great actress.
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If you come to the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills, and there are two, I've had this problem
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before because there's one on Wilshire Boulevard and then there's the one on Doheny Boulevard.
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So don't go to the wrong one, but it's a great, hotel lobbies in Hollywood are a great place