Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Now we know the truth !!

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00:00:44.940 And that's exactly what I think this new recording also does.

00:00:54.540 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.

00:00:56.140 I'm Tja Shtifloh, journalist, Hollywood truth teller, and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:01:03.500 We have the recording, finally.

00:01:07.200 You know how much I love recordings.

00:01:09.340 I feel like if you hear something or see something on video, it's so much easier to get a full picture of what actually happened.

00:01:16.700 And in this recording, we didn't know, I didn't know what it was going to be about.

00:01:21.240 I didn't learn that until I actually listened to it.

00:01:24.600 And I'm going to let you hear this recording.

00:01:28.100 And as I guessed and as I predicted before actually I listened to this,

00:01:33.800 I knew that this was Blake Lively's evidence.

00:01:36.660 It came from her camp trying to prove something.

00:01:39.720 And I think as most of the time when she comes forward with some evidence, it just proves the opposite.

00:01:47.740 And that's exactly what I think this new recording also does.

00:01:52.300 If you follow this case closely, you know that last week there were headlines everywhere

00:01:56.180 that Justin Baldoni had told Blake without her asking that he was circumcised.

00:02:02.820 And that that episode happened five months prior to the shoot when they actually started shooting the movie.

00:02:10.900 In regards to that, this video was sent to me.

00:02:15.000 And I just find it so ironic that Ryan Reynolds would do such a thing to The Rock because he did this to The Rock.

00:02:23.460 He belittled him and bullied him in front of a TV host and in front of his other co-star, Gal Gadot.

00:02:31.920 And said something extremely inappropriate about his thing.

00:02:38.060 Okay, so let's get into it.

00:02:39.280 This is not going to be a long episode because it's Sunday and it's nice outside.

00:02:42.600 But I just really wanted you to hear this audio because I've been talking about it and I don't want to keep it from people.

00:02:48.040 So here we go.

00:02:49.380 This recording was given to me by Clark.

00:02:53.820 Clark is a superhero.

00:02:56.040 He's also the one who went down to the courthouse to get the other recording of Claire Ayoub.

00:03:01.600 And if it wasn't for people like him, we probably would have heard the truth or heard this recording through some traditional media outlet.

00:03:09.920 And by then, Blake would probably have twisted this around in some sick way to make it look like this is some kind of evidence that she can use.

00:03:19.020 And as I said, the first time I heard this, I was like, this doesn't support Blake's case at all.

00:03:24.700 So this recording is allegedly, I think that's almost certain that this is Jed Wallace.

00:03:33.160 Remember the hired gun that Blake Lively accused Justin Baldonso of using for this untraceable smear campaign that he was using bots?

00:03:43.360 And that's why it was untraceable.

00:03:45.500 And so this is a recording.

00:03:47.900 I think it's a audio recording or a voice memo that he sent to Skyline Studio.

00:03:53.700 So Skyline Studio is the company that the Wayfair parties hired to build the website for them.

00:03:59.800 The website where they put all of the evidence from Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties.

00:04:04.880 They published it so the public could see everything.

00:04:08.520 They wanted to be transparent.

00:04:09.800 And they also wanted to defend themselves and they felt that they had to go to this extreme because they wanted their story out before Blake came out and twisted things around again.

00:04:20.640 So I'm going to play for you first the beginning of this recording.

00:04:24.380 That's what I'm trying to say.

00:04:25.740 Like, again, that's that's the irony of their claim that I have this like magic bot army, right?

00:04:32.240 Like I've never executed a bot in my life.

00:04:34.680 I just know, logistically speaking.

00:04:36.860 As you can hear, he's saying that's what I'm trying to say.

00:04:40.300 Like, again, that's what's the irony of their claim that I have like this magic bot army, right?

00:04:48.740 Like I've never executed a bot in my life is what Jed Wallace is saying.

00:04:55.000 If that's true, we don't know.

00:04:56.740 But at least he is saying that here and you think that whole thing is ridiculous.

00:05:01.080 The rest of this recording is about the evidence and how it should be delivered, how it can be delivered to the people or the public or media outlets without actually Blake being able to access more of their evidence.

00:05:17.680 So this is just technical stuff they are talking about using WeTransfer as a file delivery service, which I use all the time.

00:05:27.200 It's a really is a really good way to deliver huge files.

00:05:30.220 And then after a certain time and then after a certain amount of time, the file will be deleted automatically.

00:05:37.400 OK, so I'm just going to let you listen to the rest of this.

00:05:39.560 Here's what happens if we're sending them a link to something, we're sending them a link to the where this video lives right now.

00:05:48.260 That could be in its own separate space.

00:05:50.760 But I defer to Rosa and her engineers to figure out the best way, because ideally what happens is we're sending people or whomever the recipient is an entire file that they can then have.

00:06:04.940 And that file is something that they're going to embed into their website.

00:06:08.880 Right. Not only. So what Rose is saying is like, OK, she has access to this file.

00:06:14.960 She could send a WeTransfer link, which it's which will have a the link itself would be extinguished after a while.

00:06:23.660 But she could send the entirety of the file to whoever the recipient is.

00:06:27.560 Like, that's the idea. We want to send the individual file.

00:06:30.560 We don't want it posted someplace yet. Right.

00:06:33.380 Once we have our site up, then it could be posted to the site.

00:06:36.320 But given the circumstances, we don't want to have it posted someplace where they could potentially access another dropout, whatever it is.

00:06:42.980 So logistically, the best thing and Rosa, I'm leaning on you and your engineers to determine how best to effectuate this.

00:06:52.940 But logistically, it's if Jen says, hey, we need to get the file to this person, then we could send a WeTransfer link to the actual file itself.

00:07:05.120 And then the link will destroy itself. Right.

00:07:09.700 But then they actually have the entire folder.

00:07:11.920 But, Rosa, connect with Jason just so we can figure out what the best way to do that is.

00:07:17.420 So this is not something that's connected to anything that has any other legs or access to other files, if you know what I'm saying.

00:07:24.020 As you could hear, all they talk about here is cybersecurity.

00:07:28.580 And this is before it sounds like this is before that website was up and running,

00:07:33.100 which means this was in a really stressful time for the Wayfair parties because they wanted the public to know the truth.

00:07:40.200 They wanted their side of the stories to come out as soon as possible because Blake Lively and her narrative was really being pushed in the media.

00:07:50.480 And they were like, we need people to have access to this.

00:07:53.600 So this obviously happened after she had sued them.

00:07:56.920 This is not like a battle plant from the Wayfair parties.

00:08:00.720 This is more like a panic plan, like, hey, how are we going to get the information out there?

00:08:07.420 There is nothing else in this recording that I can point to saying that this is some kind of a smear campaign.

00:08:15.760 This is evidence that they have.

00:08:18.720 This is their side of the story.

00:08:21.420 How is that a smear campaign?

00:08:23.300 So as I said, this audio recording is something that Blake filed to prove that there was a smear campaign.

00:08:31.160 And also we have to remember, which I think it's so ridiculous in this whole scenario,

00:08:35.180 is that Blake claims that the smear campaign continued after she sued them. 0.99

00:08:41.440 And this is a result of that, that they're defending themselves.

00:08:45.100 So again, another huge blowback for Blake Lively.

00:08:49.540 Now we just have to see how she's going to manage to twist this in the media if they pick, 1.00

00:08:54.880 if they actually pick it up at all,

00:08:56.680 or if they're going to make some headlines about this being like some kind of smear campaign.

00:09:01.940 I know there's been a lot of conversations lately amongst content creators as well,

00:09:06.180 and lawyers, if she has a strong case or not.

00:09:09.120 And I think some people are worried now that we've seen more of the depositions

00:09:12.920 that she can twist things around.

00:09:14.980 So it seems like there's been some kind of a smear campaign here.

00:09:18.260 I don't believe so.

00:09:19.460 And I think we can't trust anyone at this point.

00:09:22.100 I know that most lawyers, almost every lawyer I listened to in the beginning of this case,

00:09:27.720 said that it's 99% sure that this case is never going to court.

00:09:34.400 Remember that if you follow this from the beginning, everyone was like,

00:09:37.520 oh, they're going to settle.

00:09:38.440 This is never going to court.

00:09:40.000 Now people don't believe that anymore.

00:09:41.900 This case is definitely going to court.

00:09:44.300 At this point, there's no way back for either parties.

00:09:48.820 But what I think, no matter what happens in this case,

00:09:53.980 Blake Lively will lose.

00:09:56.340 Because I think if by any crazy, crazy chance that she would win this,

00:10:02.180 people would despise her even more. 0.99

00:10:05.620 I think people would refuse to work with her. 0.99

00:10:10.300 As of now, I think they already are there.

00:10:13.060 But I also think that the public will not forgive her.

00:10:17.120 And if she wins and if she punishes,

00:10:19.700 if she's able to punish the Wayfair party even further,

00:10:23.180 I don't think there's any way back for her or Ryan after that.

00:10:26.760 Also, I had this interesting conversation with Magnus earlier today.

00:10:29.860 We were talking about, you know,

00:10:31.460 something that people haven't really discussed as far as I know,

00:10:34.940 what the result of this would be for the industry

00:10:38.580 when people are taking on parts

00:10:41.160 and how directors now will think about hiring actresses.

00:10:46.800 If this is considered S-H

00:10:50.960 and someone can sue you for $650 million

00:10:54.140 for doing stuff that Blake Lively is accusing Jamie and Justin for,

00:11:00.200 that is really something that directors and producers

00:11:04.400 and production companies and studios have to consider

00:11:07.440 if she wins this.

00:11:10.280 I don't think she will, by the way,

00:11:11.620 but I'm just talking about worst case scenario here.

00:11:14.620 But I do think also what will happen now

00:11:17.600 is that directors will refuse to do some of these

00:11:22.280 intimate scenes in movies with real people.

00:11:26.340 So I think if I were a director,

00:11:28.520 I would just say,

00:11:29.260 hey, let's just use AI in this scene

00:11:31.580 so we can't get sued.

00:11:33.560 So what will happen from that

00:11:34.900 is that a lot of actresses 1.00

00:11:36.560 won't be able to do these scenes anymore

00:11:38.360 and all the intimacy coordinators will lose their jobs.

00:11:42.120 Also, there will be so many more legal documents

00:11:44.620 to sign before signing onto a movie

00:11:47.520 so things like this can never happen again.

00:11:49.960 And another thing I think will come from this

00:11:51.680 is that a lot of actresses 1.00

00:11:53.000 who have experienced serious S-H on a set of a movie

00:11:56.420 will have more difficulties coming forward

00:12:00.000 because they think,

00:12:01.300 okay, if I come forward with this,

00:12:03.740 people will just think that I'm the next Blake Lively

00:12:06.100 and I don't want that.

00:12:08.160 So instead of helping women to step forward, 0.96

00:12:11.380 which was her initial excuse for filing this lawsuit, 0.84

00:12:15.520 is also just doing the opposite.

00:12:17.720 Anyway, let's just quickly look at this video

00:12:20.060 of Ryan Reynolds.

00:12:22.620 He's in an interview with Gal Gadot and The Rock

00:12:25.360 for the movie they did together where,

00:12:28.780 and we know after this movie

00:12:30.220 that Ryan and The Rock had some kind of feud.

00:12:35.160 The Rock is also mentioned

00:12:36.420 in some of the legal papers from Blake Lively

00:12:39.800 because he was represented by Stephanie Jones.

00:12:42.660 And Justin said at one point

00:12:44.560 that he had heard about this

00:12:46.220 that The Rock refused to do any publicity with Ryan.

00:12:49.860 And if you see this clip

00:12:51.120 of what Ryan did to The Rock here,

00:12:53.540 and you see and look closely at The Rock

00:12:56.360 and how he reacts to this joke,

00:12:59.120 it's so obvious to me

00:13:00.840 that he feels so uncomfortable about this.

00:13:04.880 Yeah, I do love the insults you hurled at Dwayne, though.

00:13:07.260 In one scene in particular,

00:13:08.540 you say that the back of his head,

00:13:10.100 well, perhaps you could tell us,

00:13:10.900 what did you say the back of his head looks like?

00:13:12.540 What did you say about the back of my head?

00:13:13.980 Well, you know,

00:13:14.780 I try to never say anything cruel to Dwayne

00:13:17.940 that I know I can't get away with.

00:13:21.440 But yeah, I did say the back of his head

00:13:23.000 did look not too dissimilar to a p***. 0.99

00:13:25.280 I'm just saying.

00:13:27.420 In that moment, you know, yeah.

00:13:31.100 His head looks like a p***.

00:13:32.820 I'm just going to say his head looks like a p***. 1.00

00:13:35.760 Dwayne, could we see the back of your head

00:13:37.300 so we can make up our own mind about Dwayne?

00:13:40.400 Look at this.

00:13:41.360 That's great.

00:13:42.000 Great shot.

00:13:42.660 There it is.

00:13:45.980 It's stunning.

00:13:47.860 And hard as a rock.

00:13:49.260 Yeah, to me, that is workplace bullying.

00:13:53.960 As you could tell,

00:13:55.420 The Rock did not find that joke funny at all.

00:13:59.240 What man would find that funny?

00:14:01.660 I think most men who doesn't have any hair, 0.96

00:14:03.940 who lost their hair,

00:14:05.360 feel some kind of insecurities around that.

00:14:08.300 And one thing is to say to a person,

00:14:10.600 like a joke face to face,

00:14:12.380 whatever, if you just want to be mean,

00:14:14.180 like we know Ryan Reynolds does a lot.

00:14:16.380 But to do it like this in front of a TV host

00:14:20.920 and in front of a live audience,

00:14:22.900 I think there was a live audience

00:14:24.220 in that TV show as well.

00:14:26.240 It is just mean.

00:14:28.200 How are we going to believe

00:14:30.520 that Blake Lively was so shocked and offended

00:14:34.800 by the information that Justin volunteered to her

00:14:39.300 about being circumcised?

00:14:41.400 Yeah, these are things that probably

00:14:43.040 are going to come up in court

00:14:44.960 that they have to defend themselves against.

00:14:47.240 As I said last week,

00:14:48.640 a lot of the depositions here,

00:14:50.580 especially the one with Justin and with Jamie Heat,

00:14:53.520 they're going back in time to look at their behavior,

00:14:56.100 to try and paint this picture of these guys

00:15:00.240 as being kind of abusive,

00:15:02.320 as being kind of aggressive

00:15:04.180 and not listening to women.

00:15:06.600 And all these things that Blake and Ryan

00:15:08.480 have done in the past

00:15:09.460 and things that they have said in the past

00:15:11.300 will definitely come back and haunt them.

00:15:13.660 Like this other episode as well,

00:15:16.040 where Blake Lively told the BBC radio station

00:15:19.600 that she created a birthday cake

00:15:22.260 shaped like her own boobs 0.84

00:15:24.720 to her one-year-old son, Olin.

00:15:27.620 For my baby, I just did a giant set of...

00:15:30.660 Which I feel like will haunt him for life.

00:15:35.500 But what do they want at one?

00:15:37.400 Like he's not...

00:15:38.100 He can't declare what he wants.

00:15:39.560 Yeah.

00:15:39.940 So boobs. 1.00

00:15:40.840 Boobs, because that's what he wants. 1.00

00:15:42.440 Really?

00:15:43.220 Yeah.

00:15:43.660 I'll show you a picture after the...

00:15:44.840 Oh, I need to see that.

00:15:45.620 Of the cake, not of mine.

00:15:46.800 Also amazing.

00:15:47.740 Well, yes, I...

00:15:50.160 So this is also the son

00:15:52.460 that she just had given birth to

00:15:54.600 when she started shooting It Ends With Us.

00:15:57.180 And she decided to mold a cake

00:16:00.300 after her own boobs to give to her son, 1.00

00:16:02.840 who was at that birthday party.

00:16:04.960 Is that an appropriate thing to do?

00:16:07.260 And also when you look at photos of Blake

00:16:09.460 from the premiere of It Ends With Us,

00:16:11.520 she was wearing this jacket

00:16:13.280 where you can completely see

00:16:15.280 her almost her entire boob 0.99

00:16:17.920 through the side of this jacket.

00:16:20.240 And as we now know,

00:16:21.780 something I will go through tomorrow

00:16:23.320 is this scene where Jamie Heath

00:16:26.720 enters the trailer

00:16:28.760 and how that scene and that story

00:16:31.420 kept changing.

00:16:33.960 Anyways, that's it for me, you guys.

00:16:35.660 I hope you enjoyed this episode on a Sunday

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 08, 2025

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