Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Now we Know What HAPPENED !!

00:00:00.000 As long as he can talk about the underground smear machine, he's on a roll.

00:00:08.600 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Tashdi Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:12.860 and your voice of reason in a town built on the illusion. Magnus is here to help me. I really

00:00:18.360 need help today because I could not stop laughing, basically, when we look through this interview.

00:00:24.520 so on Friday I think this happened actually that Michael Gottlieb who is Blake Lively's

00:00:30.860 main attorney he went on Puck or the town which is the name of the podcast of Matt Belloni

00:00:38.100 who is the journalist behind Puck is that right Magnus? Yeah I think so yeah yeah. And we were

00:00:44.260 looking through some of the statements that he made in this interview and the best part of this

00:00:48.160 I think are the questions because obviously he's answering like he's all over the place trying to

00:00:53.560 gaslight us but the fact that Matt Bologna the journalist here really went for it and asked a

00:00:59.120 lot of really tough questions and that's why I needed Magnus here to help me analyze this yes

00:01:05.040 I'm gonna try not to laugh because watching this was uh if like just trying to find the logic here

00:01:13.180 if you can find the logic here you deserve a big medal so let's get into it so at first

00:01:19.260 uh matt baloney starts asking uh michael gotley uh how he can say that they won when they basically

00:01:26.900 dropped the last three claims after first okay so first she actually had 15 claims just to put

00:01:32.880 that out there because some people have forgotten including me that she actually dropped two claims

00:01:37.680 um already back in september to avoid to avoid sharing her um personal medical records yes

00:01:44.260 basically yeah so she dropped two emotional stress uh claims back in in the fall and then of course

00:01:50.580 as you know the judge tossed out 10 of her claims and then she drops her last three ones but then

00:01:55.780 michael gottlieb thinks this is victory not just a regular victory but a big big win for big

00:02:03.100 leg lively and her five lawyer firms the reason that our client is happy with this settlement is

00:02:09.660 because it gives her the power and the opportunity to pursue what we believe is her most potent

00:02:16.340 and powerful claim and they gave up everything so they gave up the right to appeal that 400

00:02:22.240 million dollar defamation judgment so this is what she wanted from the start yeah so she knew

00:02:30.060 that they were going to countersue her apparently after she filed the lawsuit according to this

00:02:36.060 logic right or what to what he says she won because he waived the right to appeal the countersuit

00:02:41.560 against her but he doesn't say that she also lost her right to appeal no they forgot to mention or

00:02:48.700 he forgot to mention that both parties agreed that they wouldn't appeal to come up with this

00:02:54.500 to come to this settlement agreement which you know you give up something i give up something

00:02:58.560 then we make this public statement that we're going to weaponize and use against you by the way

00:03:02.880 but you're not gonna let you know right now but that's what they did and now he's talking about

00:03:07.620 how they gave up everything so that so how he's explaining that Blake Lively won is that she can

00:03:14.020 still ask for attorney's fee for a countersuit that was a result of her original lawsuit but

00:03:21.060 that was the plan all along I'm at my head spinning I can't I can't get right so they were actually

00:03:26.100 thinking that when they planned for this lawsuit they were like what if he responds this is a bit

00:03:30.940 minority report to me you can sort of you can foresee the future and and possible litigation

00:03:36.640 i guess yeah and then you're saying okay if that happens down the line if we sue then that's the

00:03:42.880 point of this original lawsuit so nothing to do with all the world's children now or no or digital

00:03:48.840 violence or and she doesn't want money by the way we're gonna get back to that later but that's not

00:03:54.360 what she's looking for oh no no absolutely not and we also have to remember that when baldonis

00:04:00.580 or the Wayfair Party's claims defamation suit

00:04:03.760 against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds.

00:04:05.200 The one they could foresee?

00:04:06.360 Yes, and Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloan was dismissed.

00:04:09.980 They dismissed or the judge dismissed

00:04:11.700 only three out of seven claims.

00:04:14.160 So they still had four claims

00:04:16.240 that they could amend if they wanted to,

00:04:18.060 but they said we will just,

00:04:19.640 instead we will keep this lawsuit alive

00:04:22.440 and if we want to appeal later on,

00:04:24.020 we want to have that ability.

00:04:25.440 Blake lost 10 out of 13 claims,

00:04:28.420 which is a lot more.

00:04:29.600 And pulled two, right?

00:04:31.300 Yes.

00:04:31.660 So he keeps saying that there was no reason for this lawsuit.

00:04:36.660 It was frivolous just because the judge dismissed parts of it.

00:04:41.040 He dismissed a lot less than he dismissed of Blake's case,

00:04:44.880 just to remind everyone of that.

00:04:46.820 He forgot to mention that.

00:04:47.760 Yes.

00:04:48.240 So one of my favorite parts in this interview is when Matt Belloni sort of,

00:04:52.560 he pushes back a little bit, doesn't he?

00:04:54.280 Yes.

00:04:55.000 He does it with a smile, though, and says,

00:04:57.060 You are essentially settling for the opportunity to litigate further.

00:05:01.900 It is so funny.

00:05:03.480 And you can see that he has this little smirk all the time when he's asking these questions.

00:05:08.660 And you can also notice how Michael Gottlieb is sitting.

00:05:12.020 You can see that he's shaking his leg under the table.

00:05:14.000 It gets more and more uncomfortable.

00:05:14.940 But the logic here is sort of like Putin having a truth with Ukraine to be able to have more war later.

00:05:24.640 Or I don't know.

00:05:25.500 Yes, we're making a peace agreement.

00:05:27.440 Yes.

00:05:27.800 Like no one should ever, you know, use any weapon against each other.

00:05:31.760 After this is over.

00:05:33.500 But because of a sentence in the peace agreement, we'll start a new war. 0.95

00:05:37.780 Yeah, basically, perfectly said.

00:05:40.360 But we're going to hit them even harder.

00:05:41.600 I feel Ryan Reynolds is sitting underneath his desk and like pulling his hair out of his leg while he's sitting there because he looks like he's sweating more and more.

00:05:49.820 His face is getting a little red and he's getting really anxious.

00:05:53.180 I think he regrets that he said yes to this interview.

00:05:57.080 Why would he say yes to this interview?

00:05:59.280 I think for sure he was pressured into this.

00:06:02.100 Don't you?

00:06:02.800 Oh, of course.

00:06:03.740 You know, their clients said, you have to, you know, come out and help us.

00:06:08.620 The dream client.

00:06:09.620 He did get rich from doing this for Blake, by the way.

00:06:12.660 But I mean, having to do stuff like this.

00:06:15.560 This lawsuit has never been principally about money for our client.

00:06:20.060 It has been about accountability.

00:06:21.240 It has been about shining a light on this underground smear machine.

00:06:26.680 So this has never been about money.

00:06:28.880 Remember this now?

00:06:29.900 Yeah, never.

00:06:31.020 This was always about, what was it again?

00:06:33.680 Accountability.

00:06:35.140 Accountability.

00:06:36.200 Shedding a light on something.

00:06:37.460 That's what he keeps saying.

00:06:38.600 It's about shedding a light on something.

00:06:41.320 And the underground smear machine.

00:06:43.860 Yes.

00:06:44.220 I love this.

00:06:44.840 This is really exciting.

00:06:46.820 They're sitting like in the underground, basically.

00:06:49.740 In tunnels.

00:06:51.240 In, I don't know, Virginia?

00:06:53.560 I think in Jed Wallace's basement.

00:06:55.240 Oh, where is he?

00:06:55.820 In Texas?

00:06:56.520 Yes.

00:06:56.980 Oh, yeah.

00:06:58.120 Deep, deep down in his basement.

00:07:00.000 Yeah.

00:07:00.980 Clicking.

00:07:01.500 Underground.

00:07:02.240 But they do have internet access down there, though, thankfully.

00:07:04.360 Oh, obviously.

00:07:05.260 But what I find interesting is that she asked for $650 million if it wasn't for the money.

00:07:12.280 I mean, isn't that interesting that you choose an amount like that?

00:07:14.160 It's for all the children in the world.

00:07:15.820 That's true.

00:07:16.220 And all women and girls.

00:07:17.200 And the digital violence.

00:07:18.500 Yes.

00:07:18.860 the victims of digital loans and other survivors as well also they hired eight experts to prove

00:07:27.720 how much Justin Baldwin and the Wayfair parties owe Blake Lively eight experts who come up with

00:07:34.180 different numbers of how much this cost Blake Lively to be so unpopular but it's not about

00:07:40.020 the money no no absolutely no no no and also don't don't forget the fact that he uh you know

00:07:44.600 that she used five law firms to litigate this or or at least to get close to litigating this and

00:07:50.920 then it's not about the money. No no no it's not about the money she spent to try and be popular

00:07:56.820 again at least. Sorry I'm laughing. Yeah. Is evidence coming out in our case that has led

00:08:01.820 to information being used now in other litigations? This underground smear machine has been exposed

00:08:07.700 and people are now on notice. No he's getting a little he's getting his mood back here.

00:08:12.200 He's laughing himself now.

00:08:13.700 As long as he can talk about the underground smear machine, he's on a roll.

00:08:18.100 I find it so interesting because, as you know today, Magnus,

00:08:20.580 it could take you about 10 to 15 seconds to create a smear website about someone online.

00:08:27.100 A seven-year-old can do it.

00:08:28.160 Yes, with AI.

00:08:30.060 And he's saying that they uncovered this untraceable underground smear machine.

00:08:38.560 How is it untraceable if you trace it?

00:08:40.260 Well, yes, another thing.

00:08:42.360 Maybe that's the CIA guy that you hired.

00:08:43.980 Yeah, we'll get back to that later, actually, because now also they refuse that they actually accuse them of using bots.

00:08:53.120 Just to clarify, we did not allege in our complaint that they attacked with bots.

00:08:57.960 But he's not explaining how this actually works, this underground smear machine.

00:09:02.320 But he's explaining that because it happened, that he claims it happened in other cases, it must have also happened here.

00:09:10.260 because some of the same people from this crisis PR team

00:09:13.480 are also accused of smearing someone in other lawsuits.

00:09:18.080 Correct.

00:09:18.420 So, you know...

00:09:19.480 But hold on, didn't Blake actually write in a text

00:09:22.360 that they use bots? 0.91

00:09:23.520 She wrote in text messages.

00:09:25.140 She wrote it several times.

00:09:27.360 I think she wrote it to Brandon Sklenor ones

00:09:29.780 that they're using bots, and Ryan Reynolds also claimed

00:09:33.800 that they use bots.

00:09:35.280 So Gottlieb forgot?

00:09:36.800 No, but now he's saying that they only did that.

00:09:39.920 they only said that they use bots to make them look ridiculous and it's they never claimed that

00:09:44.660 oh so how did jed wallace actually make these untraceable smear campaigns if he didn't have bots

00:09:52.320 how many likes and comments were there on the little bump video so what he was saying which

00:09:59.560 we'll get to in another clip here actually is that you can manipulate a video on youtube or tiktok

00:10:04.580 by liking the top comments and he and there's no scientific proof because their paid expert

00:10:10.760 found this out yes yeah the paid expert that blake lively hired to come up with a theory of

00:10:18.460 why people hate her came to this amazing solution or this conclusion that uh we are having a really

00:10:27.720 hard time believing but anyways i do think that we've uncovered a lot about how that operation

00:10:33.900 works i did say i had a favorite part right did i say that before now i have a new one uh sorry

00:10:38.860 but but uh when matt baloney is saying that blake lively suing led to sort of an streisand effect

00:10:47.080 and by that he was referring to when barbara streisand sued a photographer for showing her

00:10:52.220 house i think it was and it led to that photo being published everywhere and you know talked

00:10:57.380 about much much more yeah yeah no one knew about her house before that and no one's seen the

00:11:02.180 photograph that this cameraman had taken and then all of a sudden it was everywhere and that's

00:11:06.760 exactly what Blake did with this I think it's a great way to explain it actually yeah that it was

00:11:11.620 a Barbra Streisand effect you got to understand when reasonable people look at this case and say

00:11:16.700 why why did she initiate this case so I don't actually think the data supports what you're

00:11:24.440 saying and what I mean by that is what the data supports and this came out in expert reports in

00:11:29.620 our case, is that the reaction to Ms. Lively bringing this lawsuit was positive.

00:11:35.400 Yeah, he says the reaction to Ms. Lively bringing this lawsuit was initially positive.

00:11:41.740 Before all the other evidence came out.

00:11:43.840 What he means, though, is when the New York Times article was published, everyone was

00:11:49.240 sort of on Blake Lively's side.

00:11:50.760 Yeah, because everyone was like, wow, this sounds horrible.

00:11:53.020 Because it was one side of the story and also it was some cherry-picked text messages that

00:11:56.840 fit the narrative.

00:11:57.480 And also, they implicated you without evidence, saying you were part of the underground smear machine.

00:12:04.600 Yes, I've been to Jed Wallis' basement a lot.

00:12:07.640 You've been in his tunnels.

00:12:08.660 Yeah, so what happened was that after a week, he came out with all the evidence contradicting everything that she said.

00:12:17.200 And according to Michael Gottlieb, that was not the public reacting to all the new evidence.

00:12:22.440 that was manipulation by this continuous underground smear machine.

00:12:28.920 Yep.

00:12:30.080 No one could look at the evidence themselves and see,

00:12:33.680 hey, there's something not adding up here.

00:12:35.460 That's impossible. 1.00

00:12:36.760 He's basically saying that the public is really, really stupid 1.00

00:12:39.260 and super easily misled. 1.00

00:12:41.460 Yeah.

00:12:41.860 No one can have their own opinions.

00:12:43.980 Nope.

00:12:44.300 Everyone gets told what to actually think.

00:12:47.740 so he basically believes that we are all programmed bots because we cannot have our own opinion

00:12:56.160 that's a bit elitist isn't it yes and at the same time he's saying there are no bots but he's

00:13:00.420 thinking of human beings as bots the way i see it yeah don't you agree brainless machines walking

00:13:05.660 around so if we see someone liking a video we will we will then of course like the video too

00:13:11.740 and we will write mean comments and if there's a comment on top of that video that says something

00:13:16.580 We will definitely just agree with that without having any questions about it.

00:13:20.720 He also keeps calling this lawsuit an improper sham lawsuit.

00:13:24.540 The Baldoni countersuit.

00:13:27.220 The Baldoni countersuit.

00:13:28.400 He called it a sham lawsuit.

00:13:30.340 The judge never said that this was a sham lawsuit.

00:13:33.400 The judge said, you know, on technicalities, you can't countersue her.

00:13:38.400 But he never said it was a sham.

00:13:40.560 He never said it was improper.

00:13:42.560 He never talked about all this evidence.

00:13:44.540 You do have to at least think about whether there is some other strategy to rebuild a reputation.

00:13:53.880 I think you got to wait and see what we accomplish in our 47-1 before you write the final chapter of that book.

00:13:59.360 I don't know. I said before that I had another. I think this is a favorite, too.

00:14:03.760 Yeah. Magda has so many favorite moments.

00:14:06.180 oh my god um so yeah um people will now change their minds when she wins millions in this

00:14:14.620 yeah upcoming new litigation that apparently we we can expect so the logic here is according to

00:14:22.040 michael gottlieb that people will not people will change their mind about what they think about

00:14:28.180 Blake Wively if she wins this last motion of these attorney's fees so if she gets paid attorney's

00:14:36.960 fees according to Michael Gottlieb then the public will start liking her that's exactly what he said

00:14:45.180 it's that easy because Matt Bologna as you heard said that is this the best way to rebuild your

00:14:50.280 reputation by continuing to litigate and he thinks so yes that's the best way she can

00:14:57.340 really rebuild her that was the idea the whole time yeah and as you know magnus one of our

00:15:02.280 experts said that it would cost her between 16 i think it was a 14 to 20 million dollars to rebuild

00:15:08.500 her image they just need to change the message out there and all of us will believe that she's

00:15:13.820 actually a really nice person and this was just a misunderstanding because the top comments on

00:15:18.600 some tiktok videos told her not told us not to like her so things are going to change you guys

00:15:24.660 just when she gets those fees well it's another reason to while she initiated this fight is that

00:15:32.240 she wants to be a role model to other uh victims survivors what was it both yeah um so that was

00:15:41.420 the only reason right yeah no yeah she wanted to shine a light oh yeah yeah he wanted to shine a

00:15:46.620 light he wanted to shine so other people can do it but then matt's baloney is asking you know

00:15:51.140 don't you need like unlimited resources to bring a fight like this on you know to start this to

00:15:57.380 hire five law firms and then he's like well no no no not really you know it's just to shine a light

00:16:03.220 for other people i mean shining a light on the untraceable underground smear machine that we

00:16:10.680 managed to trace i mean i can't and that's the thing because it's so untraceable but michael

00:16:18.020 godlyb traced it yeah he doesn't explain how though no but he also knows that if you like

00:16:23.220 or comment on a video it's going to go viral yeah if you like the top comments yeah the top comments

00:16:28.140 on the video it will go viral because then they're they manage to manipulate the algorithms

00:16:35.280 with untraceable digital smear campaigns yeah that's the experts at that the funny thing about

00:16:42.280 this is that we're now talking about a video that she made uh in a promotional setting for to push a

00:16:50.500 movie and that's the video they say basically brought her down yeah with their logic though

00:16:56.400 yeah so by liking something by liking her own words you are participating in an underground

00:17:03.380 smear machine are you following along yes i wish he would have asked him actually it was one thing

00:17:10.460 i was i wish matt poloni would have asked him like how is it that you know you think that like

00:17:17.520 by this theory you think that while you are liking like someone is commenting something negative

00:17:23.240 on a youtube video and that gets enough likes everyone that watches that video of you will

00:17:30.180 believe the comment and not necessarily believe what they actually watch in the video it's more

00:17:36.140 you know you're more manipulated by a comments in the comment section than you are of the actual

00:17:41.860 content that's what he's saying we are sheep and then this is the worst parts that they are twisting

00:17:47.920 the statements i mean she deserves to be heard amber heard that they're saying that this statement

00:17:55.840 that they actually you know they worked on together like matt baloney is saying in this interview

00:18:00.320 That statement that you created together where the Wayfair Party said that Blake Lyley deserves to be heard, they chose to weaponize this.

00:18:09.780 And this is basically their whole claim now that they're going to try to use to get attorney's fees and damages and stuff.

00:18:16.360 By admitting to saying she deserved to be heard, but his logic is that by saying that, her claims can't be untrue, which is complete BS if you look at it.

00:18:27.960 Everyone deserves to be heard, right?

00:18:29.720 even a murder in court deserves to be heard.

00:18:31.800 Yeah.

00:18:32.180 But if that murder denies it,

00:18:33.940 does it mean that the murder charges can't be true?

00:18:37.440 Yes.

00:18:38.180 According to Michael Gottlieb, it does.

00:18:39.780 It's just like, it's mind-blowing, isn't it?

00:18:41.960 Yeah.

00:18:42.580 If you say something that needs to... 0.99

00:18:44.860 No, it is so ridiculous. 0.93

00:18:49.000 By the way, the way for your parties

00:18:50.540 actually responded to this motion for these fees.

00:18:53.380 I will talk about that tomorrow in my episode.

00:18:55.660 but the fact that they actually turned around now and they want to amend this whole motion

00:19:03.300 to add more to it because amongst other things this statement and use it against them to get

00:19:08.940 their attorney's fees it's so disgusting it really is I mean you you yeah remember they had a mountain

00:19:17.660 of evidence that they apparently didn't want to show because in that what they said in the beginning

00:19:21.640 of the whole case, we have a mountain of evidence

00:19:24.180 that's going to surprise a lot of people at trial.

00:19:26.180 Yeah, everyone's going to be so surprised by this mountain.

00:19:30.700 Yes, where is it?

00:19:31.900 But now it's all about she deserved to be heard.

00:19:34.820 So therefore, it can't be untrue what she says.

00:19:37.280 The party said that Ms. Lively's claims

00:19:40.120 deserve to be heard.

00:19:42.020 I'm sure that was heavily negotiated.

00:19:43.620 What does that even mean?

00:19:45.300 I mean, it's so, like, both sides could use that

00:19:48.820 to bolster their claim.

00:19:50.000 What deserves to be heard means, what it can't mean is that they're fabricated.

00:19:54.160 He also said that the Wayfair parties admitted that Blake's claims were in good faith because they said that she deserved to be heard.

00:20:02.820 They're getting a lot of mileage out of that little phrase.

00:20:05.700 Yeah, and he said that they admitted it was reasonable.

00:20:08.860 So he's reading between the lines for us and analyzing this for us, saying that this is how we were planning to use this against them.

00:20:16.960 That's basically what he's saying.

00:20:18.020 he's not saying what they meant how does how does he know what they meant did he ask

00:20:22.560 brian friedman what does your client actually mean by this by that she deserves to be heard

00:20:28.000 does it mean that they thought her claims were reasonable uh you know even ballon is is laughing

00:20:35.800 at this though it's a bit embarrassing and also saying you know you could you can interpret this

00:20:39.440 any any which way you want yeah yeah so and i mean every lawyer i've heard and i also had my

00:20:44.760 own lawyer on yesterday, John Genga, who spoke about this as well. He was appalled by the fact

00:20:50.540 that they actually used this against him. And then he went on to say that, are you listening to what

00:20:55.240 they're saying, the garbage their side is saying? And then Matt Bologna is saying, you can just say 0.98

00:21:00.440 that it's Brian Friedman you're referring to. So he's basically saying that Brian Friedman is going

00:21:05.620 around spreading garbage. And then in the statement, it also says they want people to move forward

00:21:11.900 and basically get on with their lives and i guess they're doing this by initiating a new

00:21:18.940 by fighting more yeah and he said like oh we we want to move forward so now he's saying that

00:21:25.520 because brian friedman did all these interviews you know saying that they had this is a victory

00:21:29.920 for them then that's that's not what they planned because they wanted to move forward

00:21:35.320 that's why also blake light as you know went to the med gala to move forward yes but

00:21:41.660 To start another litigation that's also moving forward in their terms.

00:21:48.840 It's interesting, though, that if you read the comments after the Met Gala, they weren't overly nice to her.

00:21:55.940 And so does that mean that this underground untraceable smear machine is still ongoing?

00:22:00.720 Yes. You can't just turn that off so quickly, Magnus. It takes a while.

00:22:05.280 Oh, really? So the bots aren't, oh, sorry, whatever they are that are clicking.

00:22:08.780 clicking and don't believe any negative comments you read online no because they're not they're

00:22:13.740 manipulated yeah they're manipulated and we know now that one thing that can be done is

00:22:19.100 you can manipulate the comment sections of a post in a way that increases or appears to increase

00:22:25.500 user engagement with it then they get to this other thing about the stephanie jones and jennifer

00:22:30.940 abel lawsuit that's still ongoing so the two publicists are suing each other basically jennifer

00:22:37.180 Abel's case against Stephanie Jones is moving forward to discovery. And as you know, Stephanie

00:22:44.080 Jones took Jennifer Abel's phone and gave it to Blake Lively, who gave it to the New York Times.

00:22:49.720 And according to Michael Gottlieb, that's completely normal behavior.

00:22:54.400 Stole her phone. It's established in the record what happened. I mean, the phone was a company

00:23:00.580 phone. If I left my law firm or if one of your employees over there left, they have to turn in

00:23:06.980 their devices you had a field day with this didn't you you reacted very strongly what he's saying is

00:23:12.720 because Matt Paloni said that oh she stole her phone and he's like oh no no no no no she didn't

00:23:19.440 steal it she gave it back voluntarily which is a normal thing to do when you leave a company

00:23:24.420 he forgot to mention that it's not normal to give your phone to someone that you are in a legal feud

00:23:31.920 with basically or it wasn't legal at that point but you are in a feud with to give it to the New

00:23:35.760 York Times so for Michael Gottlieb he would be fine and whenever he leaves his company to give

00:23:40.660 them his phone and they can take all the content on that all the conversations that he had with

00:23:46.500 his clients and give it to New York Times to publish it in a story according to him totally

00:23:52.780 totally fine yeah so how did they find out how this merit campaign works Magnus um they found

00:23:59.420 that out but they decided not to share that with anyone it has been about shining a light on this

00:24:06.300 underground smear machine this underground smear machine has been exposed and people are now on

00:24:12.400 notice i do think that we've uncovered a lot about how that operation works my question is then how

00:24:21.340 did they do it if they didn't use bots how did they click so many likes on the top comments to

00:24:27.360 make that go viral according to this expert if they didn't use bots they know this though yeah

00:24:33.040 they got the answers yeah but they're not really sharing it with us maybe it's in that mountain of

00:24:38.680 evidence that it makes no sense that they're saying they didn't use any bots don't you agree

00:24:42.700 yeah absolutely yeah like how could you like the top comments 78 000 comments or something no but

00:24:49.300 how can you like this top comment 73 000 times because my the top comment which this expert

00:24:54.960 wrote a lot about which was my video my little bump video got a 73 000 likes on the top comments

00:25:00.940 which is what he's saying here that made it go viral and people didn't like like it was not the

00:25:06.080 content of the video keep that in mind it was the comment but how could jed wallace click 73 000

00:25:12.280 times on that from different accounts yeah you have to you have to click you have to click from

00:25:16.220 different accounts you can't just click many times yeah yeah so well his tunnels are big

00:25:20.880 he has got a lot of people down there and then he talks about taylor swift at the end here

00:25:25.900 which of course michael gottlip says he had nothing to do with anything it was a sideshow

00:25:31.140 that they created to drag blake's friends into the mud just to like get the attention away from

00:25:37.900 what this is really he forgot he forgot to mention that blake asked her to that blake asked taylor

00:25:42.820 to lie for her and apparently she did but that's just a sideshow i also wish that he would ask

00:25:48.280 Michael why do you think Blake and Taylor are not friends anymore oh yeah of course that would

00:25:52.940 have been the obvious question yeah he did say though I hope she get invited to Taylor's wedding

00:25:57.920 or he's saying that to Michael Gottlieb and Michael is going to tell Blake that yeah that so maybe she

00:26:02.320 will change her guest list now yeah for sure because this argument between Blake and Taylor

00:26:08.140 had nothing to do with this case absolutely nothing so since um Michael Gottlieb is claiming

00:26:13.960 that this is a victory for Blake Wively.

00:26:16.020 We wanted to see how we can explain this in everyday life

00:26:19.600 and how you guys can also claim that you're winning things

00:26:23.260 that maybe you're not really, but you could use it and twist it a little bit

00:26:28.300 and it can become the truth.

00:26:30.300 So you found some examples, Magnus.

00:26:31.900 Yeah, well, chat helped us out.

00:26:33.340 We have to give credit where credit is due.

00:26:35.360 But I like this first one that they came up with.

00:26:38.660 This is like a football team losing 42-7,

00:26:41.140 leaving the stadium before the fourth quarter

00:26:43.040 and then holding a press conference claiming they actually won

00:26:45.520 because the refs gave them a decent parking spot.

00:26:48.260 I also like this one.

00:26:49.600 It's like crashing your car into a tree

00:26:52.460 and then telling the insurance company

00:26:54.020 the real win was proving airbags exists.

00:26:57.860 This sounds like someone quitting a marathon at mile 18

00:27:00.760 and then declaring victory

00:27:02.120 because they found a shortcut to the gift shop.

00:27:05.840 You can take this interview,

00:27:07.340 you can take a transcript of this interview,

00:27:08.780 throw it into any AI

00:27:09.820 and ask you to take an objective look at it.

00:27:11.980 and it it won't look well for michael gottlieb that's for sure no yeah no this is so embarrassing

00:27:19.120 for him i almost feel sorry for him he's got to live with this interview being online

00:27:23.620 for the rest of his life my god that sounded very dramatic yeah it did but i mean i i feel like

00:27:31.020 imagine what an underground smear machine can do with this oh my gosh i wonder what the top

00:27:36.880 comment says on this interview anyways you should all go and watch the interview it's really

00:27:41.200 amazing it's a 30 minute long talk it's called the town this podcast and uh yes and don't leave

00:27:47.980 a comment though because then you're part of the underground smear machine they will come after you

00:27:52.460 all right thank you guys so much for watching and if you haven't subscribed yet please do and

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00:28:01.360 and i'll see you tomorrow and thank you magnus bye

00:28:11.200 Thank you.

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