Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 01, 2025


Oh yes, it's getting WORSE for Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds !!


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Amber Heard and Taylor Swift meet with Blake Lively. Ryan Reynolds makes rare comments about his and Blake's son while discussing the couple's infamous box office bump with Green Lantern. Also, the evidence in the Swift v. Reynolds lawsuit is finally being unsealed.

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00:00:44.520 But now we know there were three meetings.
00:00:47.760 Two of them with Taylor Swift.
00:00:54.920 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:56.660 I'm Sashley Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:59.480 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:01:04.100 Okay, so as you know, this week is going to be huge
00:01:09.200 because a lot of evidence is going to be unsealed.
00:01:13.560 And as I said last week, I'm sure Blake and Ryan are prepping all their PR moves.
00:01:19.440 And guess what?
00:01:20.480 They already started today.
00:01:22.400 This story is so out of control, ridiculous, you guys.
00:01:27.060 You won't believe it.
00:01:28.740 Also, Blake's team, or Ryan, who knows who's behind this,
00:01:32.400 started muting people on TikTok who actually are covering this case.
00:01:36.540 They're muting lawyers now.
00:01:38.560 So it seems like Amber Heard is actually more popular on social media than Blake Lively.
00:01:45.660 You got to see this.
00:01:46.780 And we have to go through some of the details of Taylor Swift's involvement here
00:01:51.420 because there are some confusions going on.
00:01:54.240 I've been a little bit confused myself, actually,
00:01:56.580 because there's so many meetings when Ryan is yelling at Justin.
00:02:00.140 So I had to go back and look through things again.
00:02:02.440 So I'm going to come with some clarification for everyone in this episode.
00:02:06.440 Anyways, we haven't seen any new evidence being unsealed today,
00:02:10.300 but the deadline is Wednesday.
00:02:12.460 So stay tuned.
00:02:13.600 And maybe some of it will already come out tomorrow or later today.
00:02:19.100 Who knows?
00:02:20.080 Anyway, as I said, Ryan and Blake are working overtime
00:02:23.780 trying to flood the internet with positive stories about themselves.
00:02:27.760 I feel like Ryan's new image that we've seen a lot lately
00:02:30.520 is this family-oriented man who's on top of his feelings,
00:02:34.680 while Blake is the more relatable mom
00:02:37.960 who's just like us, shopping at Trader Joe's.
00:02:41.740 So Daily Mail picked up this story.
00:02:44.200 If you watched some of my episodes last week,
00:02:46.320 there were a lot of stories coming out from this one event.
00:02:50.160 And this event is the Wall Street Journal CMO Council Summit.
00:02:55.040 Ryan Reynolds was there.
00:02:56.400 And this one appearance that he had here
00:02:58.540 created like three or four stories in People magazine.
00:03:01.820 And now Daily Mail is on it.
00:03:03.880 And the headline is,
00:03:05.660 Ryan Reynolds makes rare comments about his and Blake Lively's son
00:03:09.660 while discussing couple's infamous box office bump.
00:03:13.520 So as I reported on the other day,
00:03:15.200 another thing that he's doing now is that he's owning his own mistakes.
00:03:18.540 Like he's doing here.
00:03:19.660 He's owning the box office bump he and Blake had with Green Lantern.
00:03:25.500 And to make it short,
00:03:26.340 he's basically saying in this article that Green Lantern
00:03:29.560 is his son's favorite movie.
00:03:31.660 And he watches it every effing day, as he's saying here.
00:03:35.340 And of course, in this story,
00:03:37.260 they also mention the lawsuit.
00:03:40.180 As I said, if you followed me last week,
00:03:42.380 as I talked about a lot,
00:03:43.560 is this CEO manipulation that they're doing right now.
00:03:46.720 They're planting all these positive stories
00:03:48.620 with all the keywords from the lawsuit.
00:03:51.060 So when people are searching for the lawsuit,
00:03:53.460 these type of stories will show up.
00:03:55.260 Ryan Reynolds is a great husband and a good family man
00:03:57.860 who is in touch with his feelings and he owns his mistakes.
00:04:01.040 So this morning, they made it even more ridiculous.
00:04:04.840 This story is such a non-story
00:04:07.680 that I just couldn't believe that they got Variety to actually cover this.
00:04:12.380 So the funny thing here is,
00:04:14.040 if you look at this story of Variety published,
00:04:16.400 it says,
00:04:16.860 So this story was published in Variety at 6 a.m.
00:04:34.160 this morning, Pacific time, where I am in Los Angeles.
00:04:38.660 And then the YouTube video that they're referring to here
00:04:41.660 was published two hours after that.
00:04:45.000 Meaning that, of course, they had this story
00:04:47.200 before Ryan even published the video on his YouTube channel.
00:04:52.520 So the story here, or the non-story here,
00:04:55.380 is that Blake and Ryan are so charitable as well.
00:04:59.380 And funny enough, this morning at 6 a.m. Pacific time,
00:05:03.960 the reporter got hold of Ryan Reynolds via email
00:05:07.160 and he gave him some quotes about this.
00:05:09.400 So it says here that when Ryan and Blake launched Group Effort Initiatives,
00:05:13.920 their Hollywood training program for members of unrepresented communities,
00:05:18.880 they were nervous that their initial plans may have been too ambitious.
00:05:23.620 Yeah, I'm sure they were really nervous about that.
00:05:25.980 They started five years ago with eight trainees
00:05:28.660 on the set of Reynolds' 2020 Netflix film, The Adam Project.
00:05:33.460 Group Effort financed the trainee salaries and housing during production,
00:05:37.220 which took place in Vancouver, Canada.
00:05:40.280 Just keep in mind what trainees actually get paid.
00:05:43.460 It's very, very little money.
00:05:45.200 And here's a quote from Ryan Reynolds via email this morning.
00:05:48.960 We, when we saw those first eight trainees on set for The Adam Project,
00:05:53.160 it was clear something good was happening.
00:05:56.960 Reynolds told me via email.
00:05:58.820 I left plenty of room for it to backfire and I still think about the feeling in the pit of my stomach
00:06:04.460 and then blind faith and the blind faith it can take to just leap.
00:06:11.560 Lively said, there's comment from Lively here as well through, I guess, Ryan Reynolds' email.
00:06:16.380 I was worried because I've advocated for eight to 12 trainee
00:06:20.920 and wondered if we started with too many folks to allow enough of the vital
00:06:25.660 one-on-one experience from their mentors, but it felt like it found its rhythm
00:06:30.520 halfway through the first week.
00:06:33.160 So basically what Blake and Ryan is doing through this initiative
00:06:36.020 is loading a lot of untrained people onto other people.
00:06:40.700 I am sure that Blake or Ryan never met any of these trainees in person.
00:06:47.300 So to everyone who's been a part of this, participants, mentors, company partners, thank you.
00:06:54.140 We are so grateful to have you in this community.
00:06:57.160 And of course, the timing of this being today, as you know,
00:07:00.380 when all the evidence is going to be, all that evidence is going to be unsealed this week.
00:07:04.500 But what really struck me here is how Ryan is trying to adapt all the qualities
00:07:09.240 that everyone loves about Justin Baldoni.
00:07:12.200 Wayfair and Justin Baldoni has been known for their projects with under-representative groups.
00:07:19.100 They have been really focusing on diversity and inclusion,
00:07:24.000 and they choose their projects with that in mind.
00:07:28.380 Also, the Wayfair Foundation has given so much money away to initiatives.
00:07:33.920 And here Blake and Ryan are like, well, look at us.
00:07:37.140 We're also doing these things.
00:07:39.580 And now it's just like a five-year anniversary,
00:07:42.240 and they chose this day for that anniversary.
00:07:44.800 It's so funny to me, especially what Ryan Reynolds' brands really stand for.
00:07:50.240 Sarcasm, commercials, viral marketing, and self-deprecating humor.
00:07:56.660 Now he's the good husband, the good ally, the good leader, the good citizen, and also so charitable.
00:08:03.460 The thing is, Blake and Ryan is most likely not involved in any of this work.
00:08:08.640 And they're saying that they have partners with studios and streamers and production companies
00:08:14.260 where they place these interns.
00:08:16.740 We launched group effort initiative with one goal,
00:08:19.760 to open doors in entertainment for under-represented talent.
00:08:23.060 In just five years, we've partnered with New York City, the city of Los Angeles,
00:08:26.740 and the Los Angeles County to create internship opportunities from coast to coast.
00:08:31.500 Of course, these are the people who have to deal with all these interns.
00:08:34.580 Dealing with interns can be kind of a nightmare.
00:08:36.980 If you have to train a person at the same time as you're doing your job.
00:08:41.740 I can't imagine in my wildest dream, Blake Lively ever doing that with anyone.
00:08:47.560 If they at least had some stories with personal experiences here,
00:08:51.600 we could maybe give them some benefit of the doubt.
00:08:53.740 But of course not.
00:08:54.840 I've spoken to some extras and people who are like low on the hierarchy on Blake's projects,
00:09:00.600 and they all had horrific experiences working with her or around her.
00:09:05.880 So the fact that they're trying to make this look legit to me is just such a joke.
00:09:11.140 And this whole thing is probably tax deductible as well,
00:09:15.060 because I'm guessing this initiative is a non-profit,
00:09:17.780 so that they can actually use this for financial gain in the end,
00:09:23.360 which is what Ryan Reynolds is all about.
00:09:25.720 So the fact that they're trying to pretend here that they're helping people
00:09:29.660 is the biggest joke of the week so far.
00:09:32.140 Okay, so Lively says here at the end, she says,
00:09:34.980 what I'd love to see is an industry where access and mentorships are a normal part of how things get made,
00:09:41.200 and where that idea can expand beyond just film and television.
00:09:45.440 The real goal is for the people who came through group efforts to become the ones making the decisions,
00:09:50.940 bringing others in and continuing to change,
00:09:53.780 and continuing the change.
00:09:55.080 That's when we all know it's really working.
00:09:59.420 Yeah, if I'm going to have a wild guesser,
00:10:01.380 I bet Blake Lively spent about five minutes on this project,
00:10:04.400 and that's when she did that video that Ryan posted on his YouTube channel today.
00:10:09.240 And funny enough, there's only positive comments on that video.
00:10:13.600 Anyways, talking about charity and being such a good human here,
00:10:18.000 this article, thank you, a few people sent me this article from The Guardian.
00:10:22.720 It says here that Wrexham AFC received $18 million from government,
00:10:27.960 despite Hollywood-backing Welsh government grant used to fund football club,
00:10:33.020 even though it is owned by wealthy movie stars.
00:10:37.360 So, of course, the community in Wrexham is really upset about this,
00:10:41.700 because this is taxpayers' money that is ending up basically in Ryan Reynolds' pocket at the end of the day,
00:10:49.280 because this is his investment,
00:10:51.660 and the fact that he is getting 18 million pounds, sorry, not dollars, from the government.
00:10:57.840 And there's a finance expert here giving his opinion about this.
00:11:01.320 He says that this looks like an 18 million non-payable subsidy to a privately owned business,
00:11:08.720 now flirting with a 350 million pound valuation of this team.
00:11:15.660 Its existing owners are U.S.-based and very wealthy and liquid private individuals.
00:11:22.080 The club and its owners will benefit from the stand for the next 50 years,
00:11:25.940 yet at no point will the taxpayer be repaid or directly profit from the club's race.
00:11:32.920 And it also mentions here the documentary series,
00:11:35.620 the Disney TV documentary called Welcome to Wrexham,
00:11:39.780 that they also made, they had 5 million viewers and obviously made money on,
00:11:45.300 and all of that money is going to Ryan Reynolds and McAllenay.
00:11:50.840 And they also mention all the sponsor money that the team is getting because of their famous owners.
00:11:57.460 So this money that is going to support Ryan Reynolds' investment
00:12:01.660 could have been used to, of course, schools, hospitals.
00:12:07.120 And it says here that redundancies will be inevitable if the government doesn't do anything about this spending.
00:12:13.440 And they have a 3 million pound budget deficit here saying that the schools might have to
00:12:19.220 actually cut their spendings because Ryan Reynolds' investment is getting this money.
00:12:25.880 Kind of an interesting contrast to the charity piece that he planted today.
00:12:29.680 Anyways, let's get over to Blake here because thank you Gajana for sending,
00:12:34.540 or Gajana, I'm not sure how to pronounce your name, for sending me this.
00:12:37.860 She had noticed how many likes Amber Heard got on her latest post
00:12:43.020 and compared it to Blake Lively's latest post.
00:12:46.660 So keep in mind that Blake has 45 million followers on Instagram,
00:12:52.260 which I've talked about before, it makes absolutely no sense.
00:12:55.440 And Amber Heard has 5 million followers on her Instagram.
00:13:00.400 And also the fact that Amber Heard has been, she totally went underground.
00:13:05.800 She moved to Spain.
00:13:06.680 She hasn't been in the public eye at all since that infamous lawsuit in 2022 0.59
00:13:12.320 where Johnny Depp sued her.
00:13:15.120 Anyway, so Blake posted this three days ago,
00:13:19.380 getting ready for date night with her lovely husband Ryan.
00:13:23.040 And she was showing us her routine and that reel got 107,000 likes.
00:13:30.600 Amber Heard posted three days ago, one day after Blake.
00:13:34.220 So it's been up shorter from her Thanksgiving,
00:13:38.020 a table filled with food, with a turkey.
00:13:41.500 And she got 242,000 likes.
00:13:43.980 That's over twice as many likes as Blake got.
00:13:47.440 Isn't that interesting?
00:13:48.440 I thought that Amber Heard was the most unpopular actress in Hollywood, 1.00
00:13:53.960 but she is here, according to this latest post,
00:13:56.800 twice as popular as Blake Lively.
00:13:59.940 That, of course, also says a lot about how many fake followers Blake has.
00:14:04.380 And as we know, of course, Amber wouldn't use bots, 0.99
00:14:07.540 since that's what she has accused her ex-husband of doing.
00:14:11.420 And that is a theory that Blake has adopted into her lawsuits,
00:14:15.960 blaming everything on bots.
00:14:17.420 It's just so easy to blame everything on the bots.
00:14:20.380 Anyway, talking about bots, I don't know what this is.
00:14:24.240 It's interesting.
00:14:25.200 I follow, not actually, Golden.
00:14:26.860 She's a great attorney. 0.99
00:14:28.220 She has a really good TikTok.
00:14:29.640 She explains things so well.
00:14:31.660 So if you don't know her, you should go and check her out.
00:14:34.280 But she posted on TikTok this weekend
00:14:36.380 that 29 of her videos covering this case have been muted.
00:14:44.120 She thinks there is one person here,
00:14:46.540 I think she calls her Lauren, or the username is Lauren.
00:14:51.320 And she thinks that's Ryan Reynolds,
00:14:53.320 who actually had the power to mute a creator on TikTok.
00:14:58.100 But the fact that they are being muted and the patterns in which that is happening
00:15:03.420 is something I think people deserve to know.
00:15:06.580 I have, you know, made videos since, what, January?
00:15:10.620 Not a single solitary video of mine on another case has ever been muted.
00:15:15.120 Not on Karen Reed, not on Erica Girardi, not on Megan Thee Stallion,
00:15:21.400 not on 23andMe, not on Lululemon, not on anything.
00:15:25.940 Not a single solitary video on another case has ever been muted.
00:15:29.900 I don't know if I think that Ryan Reynolds is behind it personally.
00:15:33.820 I think he's too busy to do stuff like that.
00:15:36.420 But I'm sure someone from his team is that.
00:15:39.880 And I think when this happens, it's probably when there's mass reporting going on.
00:15:44.700 So if enough people report all these videos, then they will get muted by TikTok.
00:15:51.780 It has happened a lot before with so many other creators.
00:15:54.900 And it's quite scary to think about it.
00:15:58.600 And she says that I think it was nine of her videos were about the Van Zandt-Sham lawsuit.
00:16:05.800 And keep in mind that she only talks about this from a legal perspective.
00:16:10.720 She doesn't have any opinions about Blake and Ryan or Justin for that matter.
00:16:14.320 She goes through the legal papers, the documents.
00:16:18.140 It's fact-based.
00:16:19.540 So that's what makes it even more interesting to me that she has been muted.
00:16:23.480 And let's not forget who Blake Lively hired almost in the beginning of this drama.
00:16:29.980 She hired an ex-CIA agent.
00:16:33.960 Remember that?
00:16:34.800 Nick Shapiro.
00:16:35.920 There was a lot of talk about him.
00:16:37.780 What is he up to?
00:16:39.400 I mean, does he still work for her?
00:16:41.140 Is this his kind of work?
00:16:42.980 I would assume so.
00:16:44.560 Because he is a person who knows how to cover his tracks.
00:16:49.100 And I saw what happened to me.
00:16:51.100 I don't know if you followed me back in February and March.
00:16:53.480 Because at that point, my Wikipedia page was edited every two minutes.
00:17:00.000 And it went on for weeks.
00:17:01.700 There were hundreds and hundreds of edits every day.
00:17:05.300 Someone was trying to smear me on my Wikipedia page.
00:17:09.340 I didn't even know I had one.
00:17:10.840 I didn't make it myself.
00:17:11.900 So I was not involved at all.
00:17:13.680 But then someone obviously wanted me to look bad.
00:17:17.320 And I don't know if that was Nick Shapiro's work.
00:17:20.000 But I do think, obviously, it's really important that we are aware of these things.
00:17:23.980 And I'm so happy to see that people don't stop talking about this just because they get muted.
00:17:29.460 And luckily, I haven't been muted.
00:17:31.900 And I don't know if they actually do that on YouTube.
00:17:34.120 I don't think so.
00:17:35.500 I think TikTok is a bit more like the Wild West when it comes to things like that.
00:17:39.720 There are a bit more rules when it comes to YouTube, thankfully.
00:17:44.020 Anyways, as I said in the beginning of this episode, there's been a lot of back and forth about Taylor's involvement in all of this.
00:17:50.800 And since that timeline was released last week, the timeline that one of Justin Baldoni's publicists sent to Melissa Nathan when they hired her as a crisis manager,
00:18:02.540 they explained, in their words, what had happened throughout the whole period of time when they were working with Blake.
00:18:10.900 In that timeline, we also learned that Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman were present at another meeting.
00:18:18.480 So what we already knew, I saw someone actually put this quite good on Reddit,
00:18:24.460 is that in 2023, in April, there was a meeting between Blake and Justin about the rooftop scene.
00:18:33.800 Remember that scene that Ryan Reynolds admitted that he had written and Blake tried to convince Justin that her version or Ryan's version was much better than his version.
00:18:43.760 When they had that meeting, Taylor Swift just stopped by unannounced and she didn't know there was a meeting.
00:18:51.740 We already knew that.
00:18:53.420 Right after this, according to Justin's filings, Blake sent that infamous text message to Justin to say that,
00:19:01.260 you know, I'm Khaleesi and I have my dragons, blah, blah, blah.
00:19:04.900 Then later in April, there was another meeting at the penthouse of Blake and Ryan again.
00:19:12.040 And in this meeting, Ryan confronted Justin about the fat shaming.
00:19:18.760 Because at that point, he had received a phone call or information from Blake's personal trainer that Justin was wondering how much she weighed because he was going to lift her in that scene.
00:19:29.040 At this meeting, Hugh Jackman and Taylor Swift were present.
00:19:33.620 He is pointing at this in his original lawsuit, but he didn't actually say he was there.
00:19:38.940 He said Reynolds and Lively's inappropriate and humiliating berating of Baldoni delivered perhaps intentionally as other celebrity friends were coming in and out of their penthouse was prompted by Baldoni's reasonable inquiry into crucial information needed to ensure safety and avoid injury in a scene.
00:20:03.560 And it explains that he had a big back issue and he was wondering her weight because he was going to lift her.
00:20:08.960 So here they're saying that other celebrity friends were coming in and out of their penthouse when this was happening.
00:20:15.380 So we don't know the exact situation here, but we do now know that Taylor and Hugh Jackman were present at this meeting as well.
00:20:25.940 So in April only, Taylor was present at two meetings.
00:20:32.420 Then there was another meeting in January of 2024.
00:20:37.300 And that's the meeting I was confused about as well, I have to admit.
00:20:40.780 That's the meeting where Ryan was yelling at Justin for five to six hours.
00:20:48.560 In that meeting, there were Sony representatives and producers and Jamie Heath was there.
00:20:55.200 So in that meeting, Taylor Swift was not present.
00:20:58.800 Funny enough, which doesn't make sense to me at all, is that in January of 2024, everything according to Blake was resolved because she said after she returned to set and actually signed those 17 points, she was happy.
00:21:17.680 Nothing came, nothing happened after that.
00:21:19.620 The only person who's come out and said things happened after that is, of course, Justin Baldoni, because she tried to hijack his movie from him.
00:21:27.820 But apart from that, Blake hasn't said that there were any incidents after that was signed.
00:21:34.280 So it's funny how Ryan saw it necessary to scream or yell at Justin for five to six hours in January of 2024.
00:21:43.400 If you know the reason, please let me know in the comments section.
00:21:47.080 I haven't read anything about what he was actually yelling about.
00:21:50.360 I thought he was also yelling about the fat shaming at that meeting.
00:21:53.500 But now we know there were three meetings, two of them with Taylor Swift.
00:21:58.200 Taylor has so far only admitted that she arrived at that rooftop meeting.
00:22:03.920 She never spoke about or never commented on arriving at the other meeting about the fat shaming.
00:22:11.340 She's never said that she was there.
00:22:13.480 And she said the only involvement she had in the movie was that she gave them her song.
00:22:18.300 And that song was in the trailer.
00:22:20.440 And that's it.
00:22:21.800 According to Blake, though, Taylor was with her throughout this entire process.
00:22:25.560 And also Isabella Ferrer said that Taylor had a part in her actually getting the part of young Lily.
00:22:34.820 So she said that she also had a part in her auditioning and the decision to make her young Lily.
00:22:41.400 Taylor never commented on any of that.
00:22:43.400 And we also know in June of this year, 18th of June, the court ordered Blake to hand over all her communication with Taylor Swift.
00:22:52.620 I really hope that we're going to get to see some of that this week.
00:22:57.820 Also, we remember clearly when Brian Friedman delivered a sworn statement to the court saying he had spoken to someone very close to Taylor
00:23:07.380 who had told him that Blake tried to blackmail Taylor and that she threatened to release 10 years worth of text messages and communication with Taylor if she didn't support her publicly.
00:23:19.840 I'm guessing we're soon going to find out how involved actually Taylor was and at what exact moment that their friendship fell apart.
00:23:28.560 Anyway, stay tuned this week.
00:23:30.000 As I said before, this is the big week where things are going to get unsealed and we're going to get some really interesting new evidence out there.
00:23:37.400 And also there is a recording that I'm super excited about.
00:23:40.760 Before I go, I thought this news was quite funny that I wanted to mention it.
00:23:45.600 So now Martha Stewart is taking over after Sidney Sweeney for American Eagle jeans. 1.00
00:23:53.600 This is so funny to me.
00:23:55.080 And of course, she's not posing in any way that Sidney Sweeney did.
00:24:00.280 And her message is not either that she has good jeans because she's blonde and have blue eyes. 1.00
00:24:06.080 I love that they're using older models here, but I also wonder if Sidney was asked again to do this and then if she declined or if they just wanted to go a completely different direction.
00:24:17.500 I heard that they sold a lot of jeans with that Sidney Sweeney, but who knows?
00:24:22.300 I'm curious to find out how much they're going to sell using Martha Stewart as their spokesperson.
00:24:28.540 As we all know, Martha Stewart's been in prison, so we know that she's not free of controversy.
00:24:33.540 But someone says here, it's quite interesting, it says that since Stewart is another blue-eyed blonde, the choice might also allow American Eagle to avoid appearing like they're carving to residual pressure while still embracing a different form of diversity, namely age.
00:24:52.420 And it says that Sidney Sweeney reached their demographic with Martha Stewart there reminding an older generation that American Eagle is there for you too.
00:25:01.020 Though she's older, she represents this be-yourself, unapologetic icon.
00:25:06.800 Fashion is about confidence.
00:25:09.040 Anyway, that's it for me, you guys.
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