Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 18, 2026


PUNISH THEM MORE !!!


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00:00:00.000 Ryan and Blake said, punish them more.
00:00:03.220 What can we do to punish them more?
00:00:09.680 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk.
00:00:11.400 I'm Sash Di Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller
00:00:14.100 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:18.540 I knew it.
00:00:19.940 I knew that this was going to happen.
00:00:22.700 So as I said yesterday, Blake Lively's attorneys
00:00:25.860 are obviously not happy that Brian Friedman released the entire settlement agreement to the
00:00:33.080 public. I knew they were going to try to punish them somehow, and guess what they did? Exactly
00:00:40.680 that. They just sent a long letter to the judge. You won't believe what they're asking for this
00:00:46.860 time. And according to Rob Shooter, Blake and Ryan finally paid their contractors. As you know,
00:00:52.960 this story was in the news a few weeks ago that Blake and Ryan was building this house in upstate
00:00:58.060 New York and they owed their contractors over two million dollars. Apparently now they paid them.
00:01:05.080 Let's also look at this PR strategy of one of the most cancelled men in Hollywood in history.
00:01:11.820 Armie Hammer just did an interview with the Hollywood Reporter. Apparently he's willing to
00:01:17.960 do anything to get back into Hollywood. There are some things here that I wanted to point out that
00:01:23.600 maybe Blake Lively could take some notes from. Okay, so Blake's team just dropped this onto the
00:01:30.300 legal docket. I knew they were going to try and find a way to punish the Wayfair parties further.
00:01:37.720 As you know, as I spoke about yesterday in my episode, there are a lot of contradicting facts
00:01:43.520 out there right now. On one side, you have Lively's team saying that they have the right to go
00:01:47.940 somewhere else and ask for these damages that they think that she has the right to obtain due to this
00:01:55.380 47.1 Me Too law. On the other hand, you have Brian Friedman, Justin Baldoni's attorney, saying,
00:02:01.320 hey, we agreed in the settlement that whatever Judge Lyman rules on this motion will be final
00:02:09.640 and no one can appeal any decision or take this anywhere else.
00:02:15.160 So obviously these lawyers are not reading the law the same way.
00:02:19.420 And now Blake's attorneys just publish this long letter to the judge
00:02:25.240 asking for more time.
00:02:28.360 The reasoning is so absurd.
00:02:31.880 So first they're asking the judge what he actually wants from them.
00:02:35.280 Does he want them to explain how this law is actually working?
00:02:39.120 because they haven't used this law before,
00:02:41.620 this law that they've been talking about for one and a half years now, by the way.
00:02:45.740 And if that is the case, then they need one week to prepare something for the judge.
00:02:51.720 And if he's asking for how much their attorney's fees are,
00:02:56.160 they need another 30 days, another month to calculate that.
00:03:01.160 So apparently they don't do itemized invoices at any of these legal firms.
00:03:06.780 And that's why they need so much extra time here.
00:03:10.360 It's so interesting when you look at what Brian Friedman said on the Megyn Kelly show.
00:03:15.240 It's been enough time.
00:03:17.040 People should be able to move on.
00:03:19.060 There should be a result here.
00:03:20.960 It should be done, handled, and people should move on with their lives.
00:03:26.600 And Justin would certainly like that opportunity along with the other individual defendants. 0.89
00:03:31.560 And he also said, I want Blake Lively to move on with her life.
00:03:35.120 And the way they respond to that is to drag it out even further.
00:03:40.800 I have my suspicion here that they are planning something that they don't exactly know what
00:03:46.280 to do at this point.
00:03:47.340 So they need more time to scheme something behind the scenes here, because obviously
00:03:53.480 these invoices are already made.
00:03:56.060 These are attorney's fees for something that happened over a year ago.
00:04:01.200 And as I've heard from most attorneys who've been talking about this,
00:04:04.220 the estimation of what these two motions to dismiss would be, because they only wrote two
00:04:11.000 motions to dismiss to Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair Party's lawsuit. So these are the two
00:04:16.520 filings that they're asking to get fees for, will probably be around $150,000 maximum, maybe $200,000,
00:04:26.400 maybe $100,000, but in that area. So what I believe that they're doing now is that they want to add
00:04:32.300 hours to that because they could potentially also ask to get fees on these fees saying that hey we
00:04:39.860 spend so much time calculating these fees so we're also going to invoice the wayfair parties for that
00:04:46.620 time so now we're going to add an extra month of work to that bill i mean that's what i suspect
00:04:53.420 will happen here because they know this amount will be so low so they need to add more to it 0.86
00:04:58.920 to make it look a little more impressive when the press is going to cover how much money she's 1.00
00:05:04.160 actually going to get. Also, they're saying that it's going to take so much time to fill out these 0.58
00:05:09.840 affidavits from the different law firms because she had so many law firms working for her.
00:05:15.260 And on top of that, Michael Gottlieb is out of the country and apparently he's somewhere where
00:05:23.620 you can't take a phone calls and you can't reach the internet. So you can't sign anything. So it's
00:05:30.840 impossible for them to do anything until he comes back from his vacation. I think if he wasn't on
00:05:37.160 vacation, they would have said that he was out on the country on business and pointing that out.
00:05:41.800 But they're just saying he's out of the country. So I'm sure he's out there celebrating his big
00:05:47.400 win in this lawsuit where his company has billed Blake Lively over 30 million dollars. Another
00:05:54.320 thing that I find so interesting here is that her attorneys have constantly talked about how this is
00:06:00.900 not about the money. This is not about the money. It's a principle to show that this law works and
00:06:08.640 that this law protects survivors like Blake Lively. So it's not about the money but they're going to
00:06:15.540 spend a month calculating how much money it's going to be and we all know it's not going to be
00:06:20.840 a lot of money. It just makes absolutely no sense and they're also pointing out several times in
00:06:26.700 this letter that everything that Blake did was done in good faith. That has nothing to do with
00:06:32.860 asking about another 30 days to file this. They believe that she did everything in good faith
00:06:39.900 because she paid them to say that and the thing is here this is not on Blake herself this is on
00:06:45.900 the attorneys they're the ones having to prove how much money they're charging for their services
00:06:52.240 here Blake doesn't have to do that so they're blaming it basically on Blake saying that well
00:06:58.260 you know she did everything in good faith here so she needs another 30 days she doesn't need
00:07:05.360 another 30 days. You need another 30 days to figure out a scheme so you can punish them
00:07:11.180 further. Yeah, it's interesting how they had absolutely no sympathy for Brian Friedman when
00:07:16.920 his house burned down last year during the LA fires. And they were like, well, he doesn't need
00:07:22.000 any extra time. He just lost his house to the fire. But we need extra time because Michael
00:07:28.160 Gottlieb is on vacation. If I'm taking a wild guess here, I feel that Judge Lyman is going to
00:07:35.320 approve in part and deny in part which is what he's been doing throughout this entire case
00:07:41.440 so i'm guessing he's going to give them another two weeks to bill hours that they are going to
00:07:47.620 add to this bill for attorney's fees and then of course the wayfair parties are going to object to
00:07:54.620 that this is so bad for pr for blake lively to keep dragging this out even further like what's 0.95
00:08:02.240 the point this to me just proves that she is not done because she could have told her attorneys
00:08:09.340 let's get this over with we want to move on with our lives now she hasn't said that ryan and blake
00:08:15.180 said punish them more what can we do to punish them more and they're buying more time here that's
00:08:21.920 my personal opinion anyways tmz picked this up saying blake lively to judge i need more time in
00:08:28.980 Baldoni case. My summer is booked. That doesn't look good for Blake. They're saying Blake asked
00:08:35.560 the judge in their lawsuit against Justin for a little extra time to explain how much she will
00:08:39.640 be seeking an attorney's fees in the case, in part due to her busy schedule, TMZ has learned.
00:08:45.540 So she's so busy with her amazing, blooming career that she doesn't even have time to deal
00:08:53.120 with this right now. I'm guessing she's so busy with her advocacy work for real victims and that
00:09:01.120 is the real reason here. Not so much. And then they're mentioning here as well the Gossip Girl
00:09:05.940 alum legal team wrote a letter to the federal judge in the since-settled legal battle. Blake
00:09:12.420 recently lost her attempt to get punitive damages but was awarded legal fees. It's so funny to me
00:09:20.060 how she's being referred to all the time
00:09:21.900 as the Gossip Girl album. 1.00
00:09:23.440 That's a show that ended like 20 years ago 1.00
00:09:25.980 and that's still her claim to fame.
00:09:28.380 Yeah, Daily Mail also picked it up saying 0.89
00:09:30.240 Blake Lively asks judge for more time
00:09:32.300 in Justin Baldoni case due to summer plants
00:09:34.660 after settled court war.
00:09:36.660 I mean, you had Sigrid McCowley,
00:09:38.700 her victim attorney,
00:09:40.720 going out in front of the courthouse
00:09:42.660 talking about how much time Blake
00:09:44.680 is going to spend talking about real victims.
00:09:48.200 But then she doesn't really have time
00:09:49.620 to deal with any of this because she has summer plans yeah and the comment section is on fire on
00:09:55.640 this daily mail article one person is saying here that the narcissist in her will never let it go
00:10:01.280 that's what i believe too she will not let this go she knows she has completely messed up big style 0.95
00:10:08.680 in this her reputation which was never great to begin with is completely shredded her husband's
00:10:13.440 reputation has been damaged her friendship with taylor swift is over because of this and let's
00:10:18.140 face it how much would blake have loved it to be seen at her at taylor's wedding with her a-list
00:10:22.940 husband in town now she's still grasping at straws trying to claw back some credibility 1.00
00:10:27.820 while only making herself look even more stupid and tone deaf there really is an idiot i saw 1.00
00:10:34.420 someone commented this on my video yesterday and this is from a civil litigator saying a civil 1.00
00:10:39.560 litigator here i suspect live lying blake lively will get around 150 000 max her attorney fees 1.00
00:10:47.340 won't be what her big lawyer attorney's charge. 1.00
00:10:50.820 It will be reasonable, decided by the judge,
00:10:53.600 and Blake won't get a penny of it.
00:10:55.300 Not a penny will come from our beloved Justin Baldoni.
00:10:58.260 It will come from insurance companies.
00:11:00.780 Gigantic win in the final judges for Team Truth.
00:11:06.480 Yes.
00:11:07.640 Another note that caught my attention over at Reddit this morning
00:11:10.200 was someone saying that Blake Lively has the right to request attorney's fees,
00:11:14.780 but content creators can't.
00:11:16.540 Where is the justice? Can 47.1 be challenged? Malice discussion. That is so true. When we all
00:11:25.200 were subpoenaed, including me, there were 107 of us who had to defend ourselves against these
00:11:32.220 subpoenas. Interestingly enough, this wasn't really covered by the mainstream media for some
00:11:37.300 reason, that Blake Lively was trying to take away the First Amendment rights from content creators 0.99
00:11:44.680 and journalists online and to fight these subpoenas the right way she forced people to hire attorneys 0.59
00:11:52.380 and to fight a subpoena is easily around ten thousand dollars some people successfully did it
00:11:58.020 by themselves but i hired an attorney and a lot of other content creators hired attorneys we were
00:12:03.920 all talking together during that process trying to figure out how to deal with this it took a lot
00:12:09.740 of time away from us and of course that's what they wanted they wanted to silence us and they
00:12:14.980 wanted to steal our time they wanted to put pressure on us and add extra stress in our lives
00:12:20.920 and as you know as soon as we fall back they just dropped the subpoenas one by one and the fact that
00:12:28.500 they got away with that the fact that they tried to get access to my personal information my address
00:12:36.300 my phone number, my credit card number, all my bank accounts and they just got away with that
00:12:43.120 while Justin Baldoni has to pay attorney's fees for her because he defended himself against her.
00:12:49.780 I mean it's so absurd how this law is so messed up. Yes thank you to this person on Reddit who
00:12:58.140 actually mentioned this. How insane this actually is. On top of that when this happened mainstream
00:13:04.220 media paraded Blake Lively as a real victim and put her on a list of 100 most influential
00:13:10.640 titans in the world. While Ryan Reynolds also received similar praise from magazines just
00:13:16.440 recently Forbes magazine saying he's one of the top immigrants. Time magazine putting him on the
00:13:22.420 cover saying his company Maximum Effort is so influential he deserves two covers from it. Yeah
00:13:29.660 I think that says everything about the corruption going on behind the scenes here.
00:13:33.820 Anyways, apparently, according to Rob Schroeder here, Blake and Ryan finally paid their contractors.
00:13:41.580 They owed them over two million dollars.
00:13:44.940 So these people have been working on their New York estate for years because they've
00:13:49.240 been doing this huge renovation projects up there.
00:13:52.120 And apparently they haven't been paying people.
00:13:54.880 This is a reoccurring thing with Blake and Ryan.
00:13:57.560 I've heard from so many other people who have been in situations where with them, who's done business with them, who never got paid for that.
00:14:06.440 So according to Rob Shooters here, sources are telling him that the fallout is far from over regarding this.
00:14:12.740 While the money has finally been paid, insiders say the damage to the couple's reputation within the construction world could be much harder to repair.
00:14:21.800 Yeah, the bills may be settled, but people remember how they got settled.
00:14:26.160 A source close to the construction industry tells me contractors had to file the ends to get paid.
00:14:31.840 That sends a message and it's not one the industry forgets.
00:14:37.480 And he continues, the Hollywood couple recently resolved multiple claims after contractors alleged they had not been paid for completed work.
00:14:45.960 Now sources say word of the dispute has spread throughout the Titan-connected building community.
00:14:52.840 Construction is a very small world, an insider says.
00:14:56.120 Here, everybody talks, everyone knows who pays on time and who doesn't.
00:15:00.260 Once your name gets into those conversations, it sticks.
00:15:04.540 And it says here that according to sources, some contractors are declining to bid on the project altogether,
00:15:09.960 while others are demanding large deposits and strict payment guarantees before agreeing to
00:15:15.740 take on any work. Nobody wants to be chasing millions of dollars months down the road and
00:15:20.660 other sources. The attitude now is cash up front, then we'll talk. Yeah, why would you want to risk
00:15:27.360 working on a project like this? It probably doesn't pay more than other projects. It's just
00:15:32.440 that you can say that, hey, I was working on this project for Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively,
00:15:37.120 but I don't think that is going to get you more work necessarily at this point.
00:15:41.660 So yeah, why would anyone risk something like that?
00:15:44.680 Anyways, let's get to this article about Armie Hammer.
00:15:47.560 I've been following this a little bit.
00:15:49.440 I've watched him pop up here and there on some podcasts
00:15:52.760 trying to win his way back into Hollywood.
00:15:56.380 I remember this scandal so clearly
00:15:59.080 and maybe it's because it also happened during COVID.
00:16:02.100 Not much was happening during COVID.
00:16:03.980 I remember this story very well.
00:16:05.860 and also one of my favorite scandals during COVID was when Hilaria Baldwin was caught in being fake
00:16:13.580 Spanish. Remember that? Alec Baldwin's wife said that she was Spanish and that's why she had a
00:16:19.460 Spanish accent and she couldn't remember the real English proper words sometimes because she was so
00:16:26.260 Spanish. But then it turned out she actually just went on vacations to Spain as a child. It was so
00:16:33.000 dumb but anyways I laughed a lot about that story this story was more serious obviously 0.95
00:16:37.520 because Armie Hammer was accused by a lot of women of doing really awful nasty things and also he was 0.96
00:16:44.560 married he had two children so he was cheating on his wife a lot with these women and the text
00:16:52.000 messages between him and these women were released and it was brutal it was appalling it was disgusting
00:16:59.780 and everyone was like what a creep and that was in 2021 so it's been five years and army hammer
00:17:06.720 now is in a new movie and according to new post who did this article disgraced actor army hammer
00:17:14.060 making comeback in film with the world's worst director who beat up critics so that's the job
00:17:21.340 he got it says here that army hammer attempted a comeback this month in a is in a film project
00:17:27.000 from a director whose work has been so maligned
00:17:29.620 that he once challenged his critics to a boxing match
00:17:33.240 and violently beat the snot out of the scribes
00:17:36.620 who dared to face him. 0.52
00:17:38.400 Interesting.
00:17:39.120 So this is a German director called Uwe Boll.
00:17:42.400 I don't know if you pronounce it Uwe, U-W-E, Uwe Boll.
00:17:46.920 And he's been dubbed the world's worst director
00:17:50.280 by Vanity Fair.
00:17:52.360 And he's received the worst career achievement,
00:17:54.560 dishonor by the Golden Raspberry Award as well. And it says here that even Wikipedia's entry for
00:18:00.960 Bull opens by saying that three of his films are considered three of the worst films ever made.
00:18:08.140 Anyways, it's a side note there, but this is Armie Hammer's new movie. But the interesting
00:18:12.440 thing here is this interview that he did with The Hollywood Reporter. First of all, I was a little
00:18:16.700 surprised that The Hollywood Reporter actually agreed to do a story on him because Armie Hammer
00:18:23.340 has been canceled hard he's saying in this story as well i don't know what the truth lies here but
00:18:29.380 he's saying he basically had no money and it's interesting because everyone expected him to have
00:18:34.120 a lot of money because his grandfather got really rich on oil so we all thought he was this spoiled
00:18:39.840 brat but according to army he was not and he lived in a shoebox and down at venice beach for a while
00:18:47.560 And I remember watching some stuff on Instagram.
00:18:49.980 He was talking about selling his car and basically saying to people that, you know, I have nothing
00:18:56.820 left.
00:18:57.640 But the way he's portrayed in this interview make you somehow have a little empathy for
00:19:04.660 him because he's like not blaming anyone for his own mistakes.
00:19:08.960 He's saying it's all on me.
00:19:11.380 I take responsibility for what I did and it's nobody else's fault.
00:19:16.280 And he's not blaming it on cancel culture.
00:19:18.640 He's not blaming it on the internet.
00:19:20.320 And he's not portraying himself like this pure victim,
00:19:23.340 although he's mentioning a lot of times that he doesn't have any money.
00:19:26.440 It's not like, poor me, I need a break.
00:19:29.060 He's like, I'll do anything at this point.
00:19:31.700 He says, I'll do an effing cat food ad if I had to.
00:19:36.300 So he's open to all kinds of work.
00:19:38.760 But what I like about this article is that he's not demanding for forgiveness from people.
00:19:43.480 and he's not and he's not claiming that he didn't do anything wrong and I find that so much more
00:19:48.520 appealing than how Will Smith dealt with his cancellation when he was like I went to India
00:19:54.200 and I forgave myself and it's like you don't have to forgive yourself you have to ask for forgiveness
00:20:01.260 for everyone you hurt by doing what you did and Armie Hammer is taking a complete different
00:20:06.340 approach here he is saying that he's learned a lot from this and you know he did some real deep
00:20:12.500 searching here and he's meditating every day but he's not expecting people to forgive him and i
00:20:18.160 think that is a smart pr move from him but this part of the interview caught my attention it made
00:20:23.180 me think about blake and ryan because he says that his father had died so he was still raw from that
00:20:29.240 he found himself one afternoon talking to a man he described only as an old jamaican guy hammer
00:20:35.660 had been complaining about that his industry friends were sending sympathetic texts but not
00:20:40.440 publicly defending him. The Jamaican man looked at him. What kind of friend are you, he said. He
00:20:46.740 explained, your house is burning down right now in real time. You want your friends to run into
00:20:53.120 that burning house? What happens to them if they do so? They get burned, Hammer said. Do you want
00:21:00.780 your friends to get burned? No. So if you were really a good friend, what would you want your
00:21:06.900 friends to do and Hammer said I would want them to stay as far away from the fire as possible
00:21:12.800 and then the man said now you're thinking like a real friend then he stood up and walked away
00:21:18.200 I think that was a spiritual moment Hammer says Joseph Campbell would have called it a mentor
00:21:24.060 moment in my hero's journey whatever the f that is yeah that made me think about how Blake and Ryan
00:21:29.780 have been pushing their friends to be there for them throughout this entire legal feud and also
00:21:35.520 before that when both Blake and Ryan were pushing people to support them and how Ryan was pushing
00:21:41.520 people to support Blake publicly how Blake was pushing Taylor Swift and blackmailing her if she
00:21:46.880 didn't support her publicly that is not a real friend but I guess we all know that Blake and
00:21:52.580 Ryan aren't real friends and I think if Ryan was a real friend to Hugh Jackman he would stop posing
00:21:57.900 with him on social media and the same goes for Rob Mack he is dragging these men down with him
00:22:04.640 army hammer says here he doesn't have a publicist anymore he doesn't have any representation
00:22:08.440 whatsoever and i don't know if he deserves to have a comeback or not the criminal charges against him
00:22:15.140 were dropped but that doesn't mean that he's innocent of the things that he was accused of
00:22:19.760 no one really knows what happened except him and these women that accused him of things so i'm not
00:22:24.560 going to speculate what he's guilty of but i do think that this article is going to give him a
00:22:30.120 little more sympathy than what he had before so smart pr move from army hammer if we're looking
00:22:35.900 at it from that perspective anyways that's it for me you guys thank you so much for watching and
00:22:40.200 thank you so much to my executive producer who is i think meditating at this point that is a part of
00:22:46.600 his daily routine and how he handles this stressful job that he has here on my podcast
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