Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - June 18, 2026


PUNISH THEM MORE !!!


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Blake and Ryan finally paid their contractors and now they want more. Ryan and Blake said, Punish them more. What can we do to punish them more? What do they do to get them to pay back the money they owed?

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00:00:00.000 Ryan and Blake said, punish them more.
00:00:03.220 What can we do to punish them more?
00:00:09.680 Hi and welcome to Blossom Talk.
00:00:11.400 I'm Sash Di Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller
00:00:14.100 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:18.540 I knew it.
00:00:19.940 I knew that this was going to happen.
00:00:22.700 So as I said yesterday, Blake Lively's attorneys
00:00:25.860 are obviously not happy that Brian Friedman released the entire settlement agreement to the
00:00:33.080 public. I knew they were going to try to punish them somehow, and guess what they did? Exactly
00:00:40.680 that. They just sent a long letter to the judge. You won't believe what they're asking for this
00:00:46.860 time. And according to Rob Shooter, Blake and Ryan finally paid their contractors. As you know,
00:00:52.960 this story was in the news a few weeks ago that Blake and Ryan was building this house in upstate
00:00:58.060 New York and they owed their contractors over two million dollars. Apparently now they paid them.
00:01:05.080 Let's also look at this PR strategy of one of the most cancelled men in Hollywood in history.
00:01:11.820 Armie Hammer just did an interview with the Hollywood Reporter. Apparently he's willing to
00:01:17.960 do anything to get back into Hollywood. There are some things here that I wanted to point out that
00:01:23.600 maybe Blake Lively could take some notes from. Okay, so Blake's team just dropped this onto the
00:01:30.300 legal docket. I knew they were going to try and find a way to punish the Wayfair parties further.
00:01:37.720 As you know, as I spoke about yesterday in my episode, there are a lot of contradicting facts
00:01:43.520 out there right now. On one side, you have Lively's team saying that they have the right to go
00:01:47.940 somewhere else and ask for these damages that they think that she has the right to obtain due to this
00:01:55.380 47.1 Me Too law. On the other hand, you have Brian Friedman, Justin Baldoni's attorney, saying,
00:02:01.320 hey, we agreed in the settlement that whatever Judge Lyman rules on this motion will be final
00:02:09.640 and no one can appeal any decision or take this anywhere else.
00:02:15.160 So obviously these lawyers are not reading the law the same way.
00:02:19.420 And now Blake's attorneys just publish this long letter to the judge
00:02:25.240 asking for more time.
00:02:28.360 The reasoning is so absurd.
00:02:31.880 So first they're asking the judge what he actually wants from them.
00:02:35.280 Does he want them to explain how this law is actually working?
00:02:39.120 because they haven't used this law before,
00:02:41.620 this law that they've been talking about for one and a half years now, by the way.
00:02:45.740 And if that is the case, then they need one week to prepare something for the judge.
00:02:51.720 And if he's asking for how much their attorney's fees are,
00:02:56.160 they need another 30 days, another month to calculate that.
00:03:01.160 So apparently they don't do itemized invoices at any of these legal firms.
00:03:06.780 And that's why they need so much extra time here.
00:03:10.360 It's so interesting when you look at what Brian Friedman said on the Megyn Kelly show.
00:03:15.240 It's been enough time.
00:03:17.040 People should be able to move on.
00:03:19.060 There should be a result here.
00:03:20.960 It should be done, handled, and people should move on with their lives.
00:03:26.600 And Justin would certainly like that opportunity along with the other individual defendants. 0.89
00:03:31.560 And he also said, I want Blake Lively to move on with her life.
00:03:35.120 And the way they respond to that is to drag it out even further.
00:03:40.800 I have my suspicion here that they are planning something that they don't exactly know what
00:03:46.280 to do at this point.
00:03:47.340 So they need more time to scheme something behind the scenes here, because obviously
00:03:53.480 these invoices are already made.
00:03:56.060 These are attorney's fees for something that happened over a year ago.
00:04:01.200 And as I've heard from most attorneys who've been talking about this,
00:04:04.220 the estimation of what these two motions to dismiss would be, because they only wrote two
00:04:11.000 motions to dismiss to Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair Party's lawsuit. So these are the two
00:04:16.520 filings that they're asking to get fees for, will probably be around $150,000 maximum, maybe $200,000,
00:04:26.400 maybe $100,000, but in that area. So what I believe that they're doing now is that they want to add
00:04:32.300 hours to that because they could potentially also ask to get fees on these fees saying that hey we
00:04:39.860 spend so much time calculating these fees so we're also going to invoice the wayfair parties for that
00:04:46.620 time so now we're going to add an extra month of work to that bill i mean that's what i suspect
00:04:53.420 will happen here because they know this amount will be so low so they need to add more to it 0.86
00:04:58.920 to make it look a little more impressive when the press is going to cover how much money she's 1.00
00:05:04.160 actually going to get. Also, they're saying that it's going to take so much time to fill out these 0.58
00:05:09.840 affidavits from the different law firms because she had so many law firms working for her.
00:05:15.260 And on top of that, Michael Gottlieb is out of the country and apparently he's somewhere where
00:05:23.620 you can't take a phone calls and you can't reach the internet. So you can't sign anything. So it's
00:05:30.840 impossible for them to do anything until he comes back from his vacation. I think if he wasn't on
00:05:37.160 vacation, they would have said that he was out on the country on business and pointing that out.
00:05:41.800 But they're just saying he's out of the country. So I'm sure he's out there celebrating his big
00:05:47.400 win in this lawsuit where his company has billed Blake Lively over 30 million dollars. Another
00:05:54.320 thing that I find so interesting here is that her attorneys have constantly talked about how this is
00:06:00.900 not about the money. This is not about the money. It's a principle to show that this law works and
00:06:08.640 that this law protects survivors like Blake Lively. So it's not about the money but they're going to
00:06:15.540 spend a month calculating how much money it's going to be and we all know it's not going to be
00:06:20.840 a lot of money. It just makes absolutely no sense and they're also pointing out several times in
00:06:26.700 this letter that everything that Blake did was done in good faith. That has nothing to do with
00:06:32.860 asking about another 30 days to file this. They believe that she did everything in good faith
00:06:39.900 because she paid them to say that and the thing is here this is not on Blake herself this is on
00:06:45.900 the attorneys they're the ones having to prove how much money they're charging for their services
00:06:52.240 here Blake doesn't have to do that so they're blaming it basically on Blake saying that well
00:06:58.260 you know she did everything in good faith here so she needs another 30 days she doesn't need
00:07:05.360 another 30 days. You need another 30 days to figure out a scheme so you can punish them
00:07:11.180 further. Yeah, it's interesting how they had absolutely no sympathy for Brian Friedman when
00:07:16.920 his house burned down last year during the LA fires. And they were like, well, he doesn't need
00:07:22.000 any extra time. He just lost his house to the fire. But we need extra time because Michael
00:07:28.160 Gottlieb is on vacation. If I'm taking a wild guess here, I feel that Judge Lyman is going to
00:07:35.320 approve in part and deny in part which is what he's been doing throughout this entire case
00:07:41.440 so i'm guessing he's going to give them another two weeks to bill hours that they are going to
00:07:47.620 add to this bill for attorney's fees and then of course the wayfair parties are going to object to
00:07:54.620 that this is so bad for pr for blake lively to keep dragging this out even further like what's 0.95
00:08:02.240 the point this to me just proves that she is not done because she could have told her attorneys
00:08:09.340 let's get this over with we want to move on with our lives now she hasn't said that ryan and blake
00:08:15.180 said punish them more what can we do to punish them more and they're buying more time here that's
00:08:21.920 my personal opinion anyways tmz picked this up saying blake lively to judge i need more time in
00:08:28.980 Baldoni case. My summer is booked. That doesn't look good for Blake. They're saying Blake asked
00:08:35.560 the judge in their lawsuit against Justin for a little extra time to explain how much she will
00:08:39.640 be seeking an attorney's fees in the case, in part due to her busy schedule, TMZ has learned.
00:08:45.540 So she's so busy with her amazing, blooming career that she doesn't even have time to deal
00:08:53.120 with this right now. I'm guessing she's so busy with her advocacy work for real victims and that
00:09:01.120 is the real reason here. Not so much. And then they're mentioning here as well the Gossip Girl
00:09:05.940 alum legal team wrote a letter to the federal judge in the since-settled legal battle. Blake
00:09:12.420 recently lost her attempt to get punitive damages but was awarded legal fees. It's so funny to me
00:09:20.060 how she's being referred to all the time
00:09:21.900 as the Gossip Girl album. 1.00
00:09:23.440 That's a show that ended like 20 years ago 1.00
00:09:25.980 and that's still her claim to fame.
00:09:28.380 Yeah, Daily Mail also picked it up saying 0.89
00:09:30.240 Blake Lively asks judge for more time
00:09:32.300 in Justin Baldoni case due to summer plants
00:09:34.660 after settled court war.
00:09:36.660 I mean, you had Sigrid McCowley,
00:09:38.700 her victim attorney,
00:09:40.720 going out in front of the courthouse
00:09:42.660 talking about how much time Blake
00:09:44.680 is going to spend talking about real victims.
00:09:48.200 But then she doesn't really have time
00:09:49.620 to deal with any of this because she has summer plans yeah and the comment section is on fire on
00:09:55.640 this daily mail article one person is saying here that the narcissist in her will never let it go
00:10:01.280 that's what i believe too she will not let this go she knows she has completely messed up big style 0.95
00:10:08.680 in this her reputation which was never great to begin with is completely shredded her husband's
00:10:13.440 reputation has been damaged her friendship with taylor swift is over because of this and let's
00:10:18.140 face it how much would blake have loved it to be seen at her at taylor's wedding with her a-list
00:10:22.940 husband in town now she's still grasping at straws trying to claw back some credibility 1.00
00:10:27.820 while only making herself look even more stupid and tone deaf there really is an idiot i saw 1.00
00:10:34.420 someone commented this on my video yesterday and this is from a civil litigator saying a civil 1.00
00:10:39.560 litigator here i suspect live lying blake lively will get around 150 000 max her attorney fees 1.00
00:10:47.340 won't be what her big lawyer attorney's charge. 1.00
00:10:50.820 It will be reasonable, decided by the judge,
00:10:53.600 and Blake won't get a penny of it.
00:10:55.300 Not a penny will come from our beloved Justin Baldoni.
00:10:58.260 It will come from insurance companies.
00:11:00.780 Gigantic win in the final judges for Team Truth.
00:11:06.480 Yes.
00:11:07.640 Another note that caught my attention over at Reddit this morning
00:11:10.200 was someone saying that Blake Lively has the right to request attorney's fees,
00:11:14.780 but content creators can't.
00:11:16.540 Where is the justice? Can 47.1 be challenged? Malice discussion. That is so true. When we all
00:11:25.200 were subpoenaed, including me, there were 107 of us who had to defend ourselves against these
00:11:32.220 subpoenas. Interestingly enough, this wasn't really covered by the mainstream media for some
00:11:37.300 reason, that Blake Lively was trying to take away the First Amendment rights from content creators 0.99
00:11:44.680 and journalists online and to fight these subpoenas the right way she forced people to hire attorneys 0.59
00:11:52.380 and to fight a subpoena is easily around ten thousand dollars some people successfully did it
00:11:58.020 by themselves but i hired an attorney and a lot of other content creators hired attorneys we were
00:12:03.920 all talking together during that process trying to figure out how to deal with this it took a lot
00:12:09.740 of time away from us and of course that's what they wanted they wanted to silence us and they
00:12:14.980 wanted to steal our time they wanted to put pressure on us and add extra stress in our lives
00:12:20.920 and as you know as soon as we fall back they just dropped the subpoenas one by one and the fact that
00:12:28.500 they got away with that the fact that they tried to get access to my personal information my address
00:12:36.300 my phone number, my credit card number, all my bank accounts and they just got away with that
00:12:43.120 while Justin Baldoni has to pay attorney's fees for her because he defended himself against her.
00:12:49.780 I mean it's so absurd how this law is so messed up. Yes thank you to this person on Reddit who
00:12:58.140 actually mentioned this. How insane this actually is. On top of that when this happened mainstream
00:13:04.220 media paraded Blake Lively as a real victim and put her on a list of 100 most influential
00:13:10.640 titans in the world. While Ryan Reynolds also received similar praise from magazines just
00:13:16.440 recently Forbes magazine saying he's one of the top immigrants. Time magazine putting him on the
00:13:22.420 cover saying his company Maximum Effort is so influential he deserves two covers from it. Yeah
00:13:29.660 I think that says everything about the corruption going on behind the scenes here.
00:13:33.820 Anyways, apparently, according to Rob Schroeder here, Blake and Ryan finally paid their contractors.
00:13:41.580 They owed them over two million dollars.
00:13:44.940 So these people have been working on their New York estate for years because they've
00:13:49.240 been doing this huge renovation projects up there.
00:13:52.120 And apparently they haven't been paying people.
00:13:54.880 This is a reoccurring thing with Blake and Ryan.
00:13:57.560 I've heard from so many other people who have been in situations where with them, who's done business with them, who never got paid for that.
00:14:06.440 So according to Rob Shooters here, sources are telling him that the fallout is far from over regarding this.
00:14:12.740 While the money has finally been paid, insiders say the damage to the couple's reputation within the construction world could be much harder to repair.
00:14:21.800 Yeah, the bills may be settled, but people remember how they got settled.
00:14:26.160 A source close to the construction industry tells me contractors had to file the ends to get paid.
00:14:31.840 That sends a message and it's not one the industry forgets.
00:14:37.480 And he continues, the Hollywood couple recently resolved multiple claims after contractors alleged they had not been paid for completed work.
00:14:45.960 Now sources say word of the dispute has spread throughout the Titan-connected building community.
00:14:52.840 Construction is a very small world, an insider says.
00:14:56.120 Here, everybody talks, everyone knows who pays on time and who doesn't.
00:15:00.260 Once your name gets into those conversations, it sticks.
00:15:04.540 And it says here that according to sources, some contractors are declining to bid on the project altogether,
00:15:09.960 while others are demanding large deposits and strict payment guarantees before agreeing to
00:15:15.740 take on any work. Nobody wants to be chasing millions of dollars months down the road and
00:15:20.660 other sources. The attitude now is cash up front, then we'll talk. Yeah, why would you want to risk
00:15:27.360 working on a project like this? It probably doesn't pay more than other projects. It's just
00:15:32.440 that you can say that, hey, I was working on this project for Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively,
00:15:37.120 but I don't think that is going to get you more work necessarily at this point.
00:15:41.660 So yeah, why would anyone risk something like that?
00:15:44.680 Anyways, let's get to this article about Armie Hammer.
00:15:47.560 I've been following this a little bit.
00:15:49.440 I've watched him pop up here and there on some podcasts
00:15:52.760 trying to win his way back into Hollywood.
00:15:56.380 I remember this scandal so clearly
00:15:59.080 and maybe it's because it also happened during COVID.
00:16:02.100 Not much was happening during COVID.
00:16:03.980 I remember this story very well.
00:16:05.860 and also one of my favorite scandals during COVID was when Hilaria Baldwin was caught in being fake
00:16:13.580 Spanish. Remember that? Alec Baldwin's wife said that she was Spanish and that's why she had a
00:16:19.460 Spanish accent and she couldn't remember the real English proper words sometimes because she was so
00:16:26.260 Spanish. But then it turned out she actually just went on vacations to Spain as a child. It was so
00:16:33.000 dumb but anyways I laughed a lot about that story this story was more serious obviously 0.95
00:16:37.520 because Armie Hammer was accused by a lot of women of doing really awful nasty things and also he was 0.96
00:16:44.560 married he had two children so he was cheating on his wife a lot with these women and the text
00:16:52.000 messages between him and these women were released and it was brutal it was appalling it was disgusting
00:16:59.780 and everyone was like what a creep and that was in 2021 so it's been five years and army hammer
00:17:06.720 now is in a new movie and according to new post who did this article disgraced actor army hammer
00:17:14.060 making comeback in film with the world's worst director who beat up critics so that's the job
00:17:21.340 he got it says here that army hammer attempted a comeback this month in a is in a film project
00:17:27.000 from a director whose work has been so maligned
00:17:29.620 that he once challenged his critics to a boxing match
00:17:33.240 and violently beat the snot out of the scribes
00:17:36.620 who dared to face him. 0.52
00:17:38.400 Interesting.
00:17:39.120 So this is a German director called Uwe Boll.
00:17:42.400 I don't know if you pronounce it Uwe, U-W-E, Uwe Boll.
00:17:46.920 And he's been dubbed the world's worst director
00:17:50.280 by Vanity Fair.
00:17:52.360 And he's received the worst career achievement,
00:17:54.560 dishonor by the Golden Raspberry Award as well. And it says here that even Wikipedia's entry for
00:18:00.960 Bull opens by saying that three of his films are considered three of the worst films ever made.
00:18:08.140 Anyways, it's a side note there, but this is Armie Hammer's new movie. But the interesting
00:18:12.440 thing here is this interview that he did with The Hollywood Reporter. First of all, I was a little
00:18:16.700 surprised that The Hollywood Reporter actually agreed to do a story on him because Armie Hammer
00:18:23.340 has been canceled hard he's saying in this story as well i don't know what the truth lies here but
00:18:29.380 he's saying he basically had no money and it's interesting because everyone expected him to have
00:18:34.120 a lot of money because his grandfather got really rich on oil so we all thought he was this spoiled
00:18:39.840 brat but according to army he was not and he lived in a shoebox and down at venice beach for a while
00:18:47.560 And I remember watching some stuff on Instagram.
00:18:49.980 He was talking about selling his car and basically saying to people that, you know, I have nothing
00:18:56.820 left.
00:18:57.640 But the way he's portrayed in this interview make you somehow have a little empathy for
00:19:04.660 him because he's like not blaming anyone for his own mistakes.
00:19:08.960 He's saying it's all on me.
00:19:11.380 I take responsibility for what I did and it's nobody else's fault.
00:19:16.280 And he's not blaming it on cancel culture.
00:19:18.640 He's not blaming it on the internet.
00:19:20.320 And he's not portraying himself like this pure victim,
00:19:23.340 although he's mentioning a lot of times that he doesn't have any money.
00:19:26.440 It's not like, poor me, I need a break.
00:19:29.060 He's like, I'll do anything at this point.
00:19:31.700 He says, I'll do an effing cat food ad if I had to.
00:19:36.300 So he's open to all kinds of work.
00:19:38.760 But what I like about this article is that he's not demanding for forgiveness from people.
00:19:43.480 and he's not and he's not claiming that he didn't do anything wrong and I find that so much more
00:19:48.520 appealing than how Will Smith dealt with his cancellation when he was like I went to India
00:19:54.200 and I forgave myself and it's like you don't have to forgive yourself you have to ask for forgiveness
00:20:01.260 for everyone you hurt by doing what you did and Armie Hammer is taking a complete different
00:20:06.340 approach here he is saying that he's learned a lot from this and you know he did some real deep
00:20:12.500 searching here and he's meditating every day but he's not expecting people to forgive him and i
00:20:18.160 think that is a smart pr move from him but this part of the interview caught my attention it made
00:20:23.180 me think about blake and ryan because he says that his father had died so he was still raw from that
00:20:29.240 he found himself one afternoon talking to a man he described only as an old jamaican guy hammer
00:20:35.660 had been complaining about that his industry friends were sending sympathetic texts but not
00:20:40.440 publicly defending him. The Jamaican man looked at him. What kind of friend are you, he said. He
00:20:46.740 explained, your house is burning down right now in real time. You want your friends to run into
00:20:53.120 that burning house? What happens to them if they do so? They get burned, Hammer said. Do you want
00:21:00.780 your friends to get burned? No. So if you were really a good friend, what would you want your
00:21:06.900 friends to do and Hammer said I would want them to stay as far away from the fire as possible
00:21:12.800 and then the man said now you're thinking like a real friend then he stood up and walked away
00:21:18.200 I think that was a spiritual moment Hammer says Joseph Campbell would have called it a mentor
00:21:24.060 moment in my hero's journey whatever the f that is yeah that made me think about how Blake and Ryan
00:21:29.780 have been pushing their friends to be there for them throughout this entire legal feud and also
00:21:35.520 before that when both Blake and Ryan were pushing people to support them and how Ryan was pushing
00:21:41.520 people to support Blake publicly how Blake was pushing Taylor Swift and blackmailing her if she
00:21:46.880 didn't support her publicly that is not a real friend but I guess we all know that Blake and
00:21:52.580 Ryan aren't real friends and I think if Ryan was a real friend to Hugh Jackman he would stop posing
00:21:57.900 with him on social media and the same goes for Rob Mack he is dragging these men down with him
00:22:04.640 army hammer says here he doesn't have a publicist anymore he doesn't have any representation
00:22:08.440 whatsoever and i don't know if he deserves to have a comeback or not the criminal charges against him
00:22:15.140 were dropped but that doesn't mean that he's innocent of the things that he was accused of
00:22:19.760 no one really knows what happened except him and these women that accused him of things so i'm not
00:22:24.560 going to speculate what he's guilty of but i do think that this article is going to give him a
00:22:30.120 little more sympathy than what he had before so smart pr move from army hammer if we're looking
00:22:35.900 at it from that perspective anyways that's it for me you guys thank you so much for watching and
00:22:40.200 thank you so much to my executive producer who is i think meditating at this point that is a part of
00:22:46.600 his daily routine and how he handles this stressful job that he has here on my podcast
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