She NEVER saw THIS coming !!!
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Blake Lively's team leaked both depositions of Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heath and all their confidential information. And how all of these traps that they set up for them really only backfires on Blake Lively and her disciples.
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and how all of these traps that they set up for them really only backfires on Blake Lively and
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her disciples. Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Tashdi Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth
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teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. So yesterday I revealed that Blake
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Lively's team leaked both depositions of Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heath. What they also leaked was
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all their confidential information, their home addresses most seriously which is so appalling
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and the worst part is that it took them over 15 hours to remove it. On top of that they didn't
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really need to attach those depositions. They weren't even pointing to them in any of their
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filings so it made no sense whatsoever why those depositions unsealed hit the docket like they did
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and the only solution I can come up with is that they did this on purpose. Why would a seasoned
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attorney do such a major mistake? The press hasn't really picked up on this yet but they have started
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reporting on the sealing and unsealing and especially of course Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds and I'll
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go through some of the stuff that Daily Mail in the New York Post is saying today. Also let's go
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through some of the stuff that Justin and Jamie are asked by Blake Lively's attorney and how all of
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these traps that they set up for them really only backfires on Blake Lively and her disciples.
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Jenny Slate being one of them by the way you won't believe the things that she said because now we get
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to hear things from Jenny Slate's deposition and it's really appalling. Also we get to hear what
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really happened with Claire Ayub. Remember that young director who claimed that Justin had been
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abusive to her? She filed a sworn statement out of nowhere. She had nothing to do with It Ends With Us,
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nothing to do with this project whatsoever and all of a sudden she's coming out of nowhere saying that
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this terrible thing happened to her. Now I'm gonna tell you what really happened and I have to admit
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there are some stuff here that's pretty funny. Amongst other things that Blake Lively's attorney
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is asking Justin if he knows that he's a poster boy for the MAGA movement and for the Manosphere
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movement and the He Too movement. This is so ridiculous. Also we have to talk a little bit more
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about this hugging on the set. Justin just had the most priceless reaction to one of Blake's
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attorney's questions. Let's get into it. Okay so the Daily Mail is saying today that Justin Baldoni
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seeks to expose Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds as key witnesses in It Ends With Us case with Blake Lively
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who calls her spouse an innocent third party. So I don't think that Justin wants to expose Taylor Swift.
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I don't think that's ever been in his interest. He wants to expose Blake Lively through Taylor Swift.
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So I think that's pretty misleading but I do think he wants to expose Ryan Reynolds and there's a reason
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for that because Ryan Reynolds is not an innocent third party here. We all know that by now.
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Anyways they continue to say that not one of Lively's requests meets the court's high standard for sealing
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at this stage. So they're talking about the sealing and unsealing. I spoke about that for the last couple
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of days. There's been a lot of letters and I'm not sure when the judge is going to rule on all of this
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but I think they're making really good points here of why any of this communication should not be sealed
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and should be accessible to the public because it is important information especially in regards to
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Justin's defense. They're quoting here that Baldoni's lawyer said that Lively's efforts are part of a
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larger undertaking to conceal the names of people who she's accused of recruiting as advocates on her
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behalf against the wayfarer parties in her attempt to take over the film. Baldoni's lawyer's past pointed
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at notable names including Taylor Swift, Hugh Jackman, Emily Blunt and America Ferrara as having been
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mentioned by Lively as her confidantes on personal and professional issues. So of course if she pointed to
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them that they have information that's relevant of course Justin Baldoni's team has all the rights
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to get access to this information. It's so funny now how Ryan is pretending he wasn't involved and then
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his company Maximum Effort did all the PR. In this article they're also attaching that video that Ryan
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Reynolds did like a fun prank video at a press junket where he was acting like the jealous husband
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towards Brandon Sklenar and his mom was involved and he got Hugh Jackman involved. All of this was
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done to promote it ends with us. So I'm sure Ryan really regrets doing things like this now because
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now he can't say anymore that he was just the third party. He was very involved and here's the proof.
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New York Post does the same thing. They're saying Justin Baldoni attempts to expose Taylor Swift in
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Messy Blake Lively lawsuit. As I said he's not trying to expose Taylor Swift and if he was and if Taylor
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Swift had something to hide she would have filed a letter to the judge asking him to seal her messages
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and she didn't do that. I mentioned that as well yesterday that Taylor Swift never said that she
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needed her text messages to be hidden and that means she has nothing to hide. That only means Blake
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Lively doesn't want anyone to see those text messages because they're not supporting Blake Lively's
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case. They're also saying here that Blake is trying to get their names redacted and that's not really what
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she she's trying to do. She's trying to get all the communication she has with other celebrities
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sealed which is a very different thing. It's not like a little redaction here and there. She just
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want none of it accessible to the public and I think that just says it all. If there were any evidence
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in there of course she would have showed it to us. Anyways let's get into more of Justin Baldoni's
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deposition here. So as I said in the intro here we get to know a little bit more about Jenny Slate
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and after reading all these pages there's so many pages here. I think it's over 600 pages and by reading
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the questioning around Jenny Slate it's obvious that Jenny Slate never accused Justin of SH. The only
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thing she accused him of was being awkward or making her feel uncomfortable and those are very different
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things. So in the sense that Blake Lively wants to use her as a witness it's not gonna hold up. Anyways the
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only thing that's mentioned here from Jenny Slate is that one comment from Justin when he pointed at
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her leather pants saying that they were sexy. That's the only thing and they can talk about that
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for pages and pages and pages. I'm like how long can you talk about a comment like that and the thing
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is the more they ask the more they interrogate Justin around this I'm sure he's gonna think and feel
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that he's a terrible terrible person for saying something like that. That was obviously just
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meant as a compliment to make her feel good. But anyways Jenny is a very very sensitive person
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obviously so for her this was very traumatic and here Blake's attorney is showing to Justin Baldoni
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something that Jenny Slate said. It says that I'm not scared or anything just repulsed and deeply
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irritated and irritated. And then they're asking Justin were you aware that Jenny felt this way on
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May 27th? And he says no. And then they continue reading at that point he had made the comment to me
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about looking sexy but I had decided just to try to push past even though it made me feel so unsettled
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and deeply deeply disappointed and irritated. I mean this woman who can work with someone like that
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if this is so upsetting to her. Has she been on any sets in Hollywood? And by the way he didn't say
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that she was sexy he said that her pants looked sexy. They asked Justin did you know did you know
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that's how Miss Slate felt? And he says I didn't. How does it make you feel now knowing that's how Miss Slate
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felt in that moment. Sad. Justin said. Yeah I mean just this nitpicking of this one comment is just
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so ridiculous and there's nowhere as I said here that Jenny Slate is accusing him of anything
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inappropriate. She just said that it made her feel irritated. And then he's reading up something she
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said in a deposition as well saying that this has been a really gross and disturbing shoot and I'm one of
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many who feels this way. And Blake and I have both complained directed to Angie at Sony and they agree
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with us by the way. Justin is truly a false ally and I'm unwilling to do anything that promotes the
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image that he is crafting as a male feminist. Like honestly I have no words to describe what a fraud he is.
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These are Jenny Slate's words. She really despises Justin Baldoni. Even though Jenny Slate thinks that Justin
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is a fraud that doesn't mean that he is guilty of the things that Blake Lively is accusing him of. The thing is
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as you know Justin has never denied anything that she's claiming but he's denying that these are claims that
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should be taken seriously. I hope people go see this movie and they get to see us be friends in
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the movie because the greatest joy for me making this movie was getting to know you on screen as
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Lily. Oh yeah. And then also getting to know you off screen as me. I just was so beautiful and I think
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like seeing that on screen I'd like yeah it's a makes me feel really proud and happy. Me too. And I've
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mentioned this before but this is really important as well because here the attorney is asking Justin
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do you recall ever saying to Brandon Sklenor on the film set something to the effect of
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I have to tell you something but I want I don't want to get cancelled or lose my job. You can't say anything
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on this set anymore. And then Justin says I've heard that in someone else's testimony and that is not
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something I said that's also not the way that I speak. So this is something that Brandon Sklenor
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planted so that he could also I guess contribute to Blake's narrative here. As you know they all came
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together and unfollowed Justin the same day. That movie in itself worked as a passive aggressive
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press release because they knew that people would notice and they knew that it would get picked up.
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It was a very clever way of getting the world to know that there was friction on the set and that
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something was going on between Justin and the rest of the cast. Anyways let's move on to this part which
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is one of my favorites because it's so dumb. So Blake's team is trying here to make it look like
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Justin did the same thing as Blake but he was not punished for it. Because as you know Blake used
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the opportunity to promote her hair products and her booze line while she was promoting a movie about
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dv. And here Blake's attorney is accusing Justin of doing the same thing because guess what he tagged
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some clothing he was wearing in one of his posts on Instagram. And also at one occasion he did tag
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a coffee brand that he has invested in in one of his stories on Instagram. So here they're saying
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do you know if your team has ever criticized Miss Lovely for the marketing of her hair care products
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during the launch of It Ends With Us? And then he's saying you were happy that Miss Lively was
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attacked for promoting her products during the launch of It Ends With Us? Were you not? And he says
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I don't think if that's a fair characterization. And as we know Justin didn't want any negative press
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around Blake Lively during the premiere or during the promotion of the movie because that would hurt the
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movie. Very logical. But the way they're saying things here like you did the same thing as Blake but
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you didn't receive any backlash. No one called you tone deaf. Why is that? It must be because the
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backlash towards Blake Lively was manufactured. So that was unfair and it was sexist and obviously
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not organic at all. It's hard to read through all of this without losing it because they're just like
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I mean yeah. Anyways let's talk about the MAGA movement here. So this is the funniest part. So they're
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saying have you seen that online at least you've become in certain circles kind of a hero or a
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figurehead of the MAGA movement. I just have to say that the Wayfair parties and their production
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company I think is one of the most woke studios in Hollywood. I mean all their projects are going
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towards diversity and inclusion and these are the things that Justin has been talking so much about.
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So it's really funny that they're saying that he is a poster boy for the MAGA movement and of course
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Justin cannot relate to that whatsoever and he's saying no I don't mean to laugh but and then they're
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saying you've not seen anything like that and he says no I didn't. I didn't know where you were going
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with it but I didn't think you were going with that. And then he says all right I'm not going to ask
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you about your political affiliation. I mean that's pretty obvious and that's why he didn't want to ask him
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about it. And then he says so you've not seen the legions of MAGA supporters who have come out in
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your support of of you on social media. I mean this is so stupid because I haven't seen that. The only
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reason why they're saying it is because Candace Owens made a lot of commentary around this in the
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beginning of this lawsuit and Megyn Kelly who's also a conservative has been very vocal about her
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opinions. And I'm just going to say this is very surprising and the attorney is saying and you're not
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aware that you have a very pro-MAGA fan base on social media. And then you say you're making me
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aware. Are these like the Make America Great Again red hat people? That's what I mean yes. And then
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Justin is saying is there anything you want to show me? And then the attorney is like no not right now.
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I just didn't know if you had been following this during the course of this lawsuit. And he said that
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he has been following it on and off but not that closely because he needed to have a distance from
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everything and support his family and whatever. And then he continues saying that you're also aware
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that you've on social media you become some like poster boy for the he too movements. As I said I
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wasn't aware of what he too meant says Justin. And by he too I mean a movement around the idea of men
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being falsely accused of sh by women. And then he says so so was I aware that I was a poster boy for
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the he too movements? Yeah. No I was not. Then he gets asked about the manosphere which is basically
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a movement where angry men blame women for whatever. And the attorney is asking are you aware that during
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the course of these lawsuits you've also become kind of a hero to the manosphere. And he says I'm
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learning all these kind of new things today so thank you. I can see that. No I don't know where
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the manosphere is nor do I know where to find that information Justin says. But I hope that people
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in the manosphere if they do think of me as a hero would then go read my book. That could then maybe
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I always wanted to get the book into the manosphere. This is a weird way to do it. And I don't mean that
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like as a joke like that was always a thing that we had talked about. It's how we do how do we reach
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the men in the manosphere. So maybe maybe God is laughing right now. I love this. I love that he
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turned it around to a positive thing here. I mean I have so much respect for how he's answering these
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questions. He's being so patient with this attorney. I think I would have lost it so many times here and
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just snapped back. But anyways let's move on here. So also what Blake Lively did this time was she filed
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the entire lawsuit that Amanda Ghost filed against Rebel Wilson. I've talked about this lawsuit before.
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So Rebel Wilson is accused by the producer of one of her movies that she had started a retaliation
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against the producer. And some of the same people are involved here because Rebel Wilson hired Melissa
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Nathan as a crisis manager. The same woman as Justin Boldoni had hired. And here Blake Lively's team is
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saying look at the Rebel Wilson case. It's the same thing. So here you go. This is evidence. Like no it's
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not. This is another case. Different claims. Has nothing to do with this. Different jurisdiction.
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Different facts. Different people. And she's just saying like see what happened over there. Of course it
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happened to me too. The problem for Blake by doing this is that she's showing the judge this is how
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a smear campaign works. And there is evidence here of a smear campaign. But she doesn't have the
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evidence. So then the judge will ask okay so show me the evidence that you have that the same thing
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happened to you because you're not showing me that. So why would I look at that other case where
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something obviously happened because there are much more evidence in that case that something happened
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especially a communication where it said that Rebel Wilson wanted to build one of those sites
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meaning a smear website of this producer. There are text messages saying that. Blake doesn't have
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anything like that. So she's saying look at all the evidence in that case. I'm just going to use it in
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mine. I don't know. This is so ridiculous to me. Anyways let's get to Claire Ayub because this is so
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terrible. Remember Claire Ayub? She was a director. She was a first-time director. Her movie was called
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Empire Waste and the Wayfair Party wanted to help her. They wanted to support her because no one else
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wanted her movie and they said okay we will finance your movie. And Justin then according to his
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deposition agreed to mentor her and to try to help her making this movie a great movie. And then all of a
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sudden this Claire Ayub came out of nowhere and sent a sworn statement to the judge saying that Justin
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Baldoni had been abusive towards her and that she had complained about him and that she had said that
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she didn't want him to be part of the promotion of the movie. And then she recorded a conversation
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she had with Steve Sarowicz who is the main investor in the Wayfair parties. He's a billionaire.
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She recorded him and she gave that recording to Blake Lively thinking that she might be able to
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help Blake Lively's case because in that recording Steve Sarowicz admitted that they would do anything
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to protect the studio and to protect themselves from what Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds was doing.
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That phone call was so revealing and it was so obvious that this Claire Ayub woman was just trying
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to take advantage of the situation. I don't know what her deal was with Blake Lively but this looks
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really bad because now we know what really happened here. So Justin is talking about this one thing that
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they had a disagreement about which was of course money. He was producing her movie and she went way
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over budget. The budget was about two million and she wanted four or five million and he had to put the
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record straight for her and say you know we can't give you that amount of money. It's not possible.
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You have to work with what we've given you. And then she was really upset about that and that was the
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argument that they had. He had no idea that she didn't want him to be part of the promotion of the
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movie. This was all news to him until she filed that letter in this case that she had nothing to do with
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just to insert herself into this situation. He said that he was never made aware that she had
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any issues with him and they had a great relationship. He was on the set all the time
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because she needed him to be there because she was so green. So they're reading Claire's statement
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here to him saying Empire Waste was the set to be released in the fall of 2024 in August of that
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year. As a result of my experience with Mr. Baldoni and ongoing press coverage relating to Mr.
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Baldoni and it ends with us, I requested that he not be involved in Empire Waste marketing or public
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relations effort. Wayfair agreed to my request. No one at the Wayfair parties have ever heard about
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this. She never requested it and she never showed any evidence that she requested this and he's saying
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I was not made aware that she didn't want me to help promote the movie. They're also showing
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something. I don't know where this is coming from. It's a message. I don't know if she posted this on
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social media or if she sent it to someone but she's saying here genuinely feeling effing sick.
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That man was banned from my set. He was never banned from her set. It was his set first of all
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because it was the Wayfair parties movie. They financed the movie and he was producing the movie.
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So it's not her set first of all and then okay so this was a text between some people here and the
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attorney is saying did any of the individuals on this text thread ever inform you that Miss Ayou
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believed she had you banned from the set and he says I'm not sure how she could have believed that.
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So to answer your question no. I don't know what her deal is with Blake Wiley but this just makes me feel
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sick. Anyways then they're bringing up this person on TikTok. A random person on TikTok posts a video
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saying that Justin had invited her to his hotel room once. As I said this is a random person and
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Blake Wiley's team found that video and they're asking Justin about it and he's like no I've never
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invited any other women to my hotel room but my wife. This is all a part of the plan of making him
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look like some kind of woman hater or womanizer. Anyways then we get to the hugging which is my
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favorite part because I love the way Justin responds to this answer. They talk about the hugging on this
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set for so many pages and I spoke about before how Justin was asked about the culture of hugging
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and how one of Blake Wiley's witnesses her makeup artist Vivian Baker was asked about the hugging
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and she was the one who said people complained about the hugging and then Justin said I find that
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funny because she was always the one running up to me and giving me a hug. We also seen that video
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Isabella Ferrer when she's trying to lean in to get a hug from Justin and he's kind of taking a distance
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and Justin was told that some people had issues with hugging so he just stopped hugging people
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all together and then the attorney here is asking you know Justin how could you just hug a person if you
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don't know anything about their background about how you know maybe they had trauma in their life it's
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so insensitive to hug a person then and he's asking Justin did you have any conversations before you hugged
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people on your set about whether they were comfortable with physical touching and then Justin said
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not and not any more than people had with me when they came to give me a hug I think there's just I think
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there's just an energy like no offense but I wouldn't I wouldn't give you a hug that's my favorite part
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but I just think there's a human energy that two people may maybe unconsciously exchange I don't know
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if you believe I'm not saying you have to believe in energy I'm just saying that I think there's a
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there's a human greeting when you're starting something that you're going to be on a journey together
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that's going to be that's not going to be easy when you're creating an environment and oftentimes
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like the way that I move through the world I think I'm very open and people would oftentimes hug me
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no hard feelings Blake Lively's attorney saying here so this was really funny I love that he said that
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present attorney excluded he does not have a great energy with this man and he does not want to hug
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Mr. Gottlieb then Mr. Gottlieb asks him if they did an investigation into the culture of hugging
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because they should have done that well this is kind of a problem for the way very fair parties and the
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way that they wrote their own policies here because they wrote in their policy that they would investigate
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any kind of harassment and as Mr. Gottlieb is saying here that some people would see a hug as harassment
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and it doesn't have to be sh because everything is under that same umbrella and they should have
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investigated this so these are little things that could get the way fair parties in trouble of course
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it's ridiculous but you know this is how the law works and sometimes I find it to be really ridiculous
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also what I noticed reading through some of Jamie Heath's testimony is that they're trying to make
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him a corrupt witness because of his loyalty towards Justin they keep hammering through the entire
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deposition that he is Justin's BFF and Jamie says he's one of my best friends yes and then he's like
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well your best friend and you call him brother it's so evident that this is what they're trying this is
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the picture that they want people to see that these two guys were in on it together and because they're
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brothers they will be and stay loyal to each other no matter what so no matter what Jamie says that you
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shouldn't believe it because he's always going to be loyal to Justin they're trying to take every
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normal human behavior and make it suspicious that's what these lawyers are doing and the reason for
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that is obviously because there is no suspicious behavior here so they're trying to make it look
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like that and that's why they're asking all these crazy questions and trying to twist it around and
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around and around and can you imagine when you're sitting there being interrogated by these attorneys
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for up to 10 12 13 hours in a day and what that makes you feel like when you walk out of that room
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you probably thought you did something horrible the great thing about both these depositions is that
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none of these guys are trying to hide anything they're being very open they're not contradicting
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each other which is obviously what Blake's attorneys were hoping for they're both telling the same
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story and that's really bad for Blake anyways there's a lot more in these depositions obviously
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because together or because combined they're over a thousand pages so I mean it's going to take a long
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time to go through it all but I'm trying to figure out what's the most important and the most ridiculous
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parts that I'm sharing it with you I'm sure there's going to be a lot of new updates soon and of course
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I'll always keep you guys posted all right that's it from you guys thank you so much for watching
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