Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - February 28, 2026


Stop Lying, Blake !!


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In this episode, we re-examine an interview that Blake Lively did with Capital FM when she was promoting her new movie, It Ends With Us. In it, she claims that her husband, Ryan Reynolds, actually wrote the rooftop scene in the movie. She also claims that she never actually read the book that inspired the film.

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00:00:00.000 You have to hear this story. It is so mind-blowing to me.
00:00:09.620 Hi and welcome to Fossum Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:14.000 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, so this morning I was watching
00:00:19.900 this interview that Blake did with Capital FM when she was promoting It Ends With Us.
00:00:26.140 And I was thinking, I've seen this trench coat before, the one she's wearing in this video,
00:00:31.800 and then I realized it's the same trench coat that Tyra Banks is wearing in the Netflix documentary.
00:00:40.680 What a coincidence. The two biggest villains in town right now are wearing the same outfits.
00:00:47.320 Yeah, it looks like it's from a Berberi Spring 2025 collection, if anyone's interested.
00:00:52.320 Anyways, that interview with Blake Lively, we're going to get back to that again in this episode,
00:00:56.880 because now, as I've also read more of her deposition, which I will share with you as well,
00:01:02.160 of course, there are some new very, very interesting contradictions here.
00:01:08.040 And maybe you could go as far as to call it lies.
00:01:11.200 In Blake's depositions, amongst other things, obviously, she's claiming that Steve Sarowitz
00:01:18.480 S.S. aged her. You have to hear this story. It is so mind-blowing to me. Also, we have to look
00:01:26.720 closer at what really happened with the script of It Ends With Us. I did go through a lot of that
00:01:31.920 mess in a previous episode this week, but now looking at some of the interviews that Blake Lively did
00:01:37.440 and Christy Hall did, there are so many things that doesn't add up. Oh my God, this is going to
00:01:44.840 look so bad in front of a jury. Okay, so let's get into it. As I said, I did speak about the script
00:01:50.500 the other day. I mentioned how so many people were involved here. Amongst them, of course,
00:01:56.240 Christy Hall, who was the official screenwriter of the movie. On top of that, Blake Lively wanted
00:02:02.140 her say in the script and kept changing it. Colleen Hoover wanted to have a say in the script and kept 0.99
00:02:06.900 changing things and asking for things. And also, Ange Giannetti from Sony wanted Justin to change
00:02:12.260 things around. And on top of that, Alex Sachs, one of the producers, were very involved in the script.
00:02:17.860 So it was a huge mess with all these people involved. And all of them wanted ownership.
00:02:23.500 All of them wanted authorship. And it ended up with everyone hating Justin. But let's get into this
00:02:28.960 rooftop scene again. This is so fascinating to me. There are so many contradictions to this story.
00:02:34.780 So as you know, Blake Lively dropped a bombshell on the red carpet, telling a reporter that her
00:02:40.880 husband actually wrote that rooftop scene. Well, now let's take a look at this interview she did
00:02:47.200 with Capital FM when she was promoting the movie in London. It was the same day as the movie was
00:02:54.240 actually premiering. And she said this to the host.
00:02:56.960 As to a producer on this movie as well. Yes.
00:02:59.040 Had you read the book and then you were like, I need to bring this to life. How did the whole film
00:03:03.440 come to life?
00:03:04.120 Oh, well, that's so nice of you to acknowledge the producing because so many people want to talk
00:03:07.460 about the acting. And honestly, the acting was the smallest contribution that I had to this film.
00:03:12.840 So I was I was very fortunate to have such authorship. I didn't find the rights of the book. I came into
00:03:18.580 it once the movie was was already a reality. And so it was really just about making sure that we
00:03:25.200 honor the book as best as possible. And that we also were able to bring ourselves and some authenticity
00:03:31.620 and hopefully even expand upon the book. As you can hear her, Blake is not admitting that she hasn't
00:03:38.380 actually read the book. She's pretending that she's read it. And she's saying that we had to work from
00:03:44.300 the book and we had to expand on the book without having read it. I really wish that the host would
00:03:50.440 have asked her, have you actually read it? Because we now know that she hasn't. And now we know the
00:03:56.300 excuse for why she didn't read the book from her deposition. She's asked by Justin's attorney if
00:04:03.320 she read the book. And she says here that what works better for me is it is to not read the book
00:04:08.260 in advance because it is hard for me to see the blind spots in the film because you can't unlearn what
00:04:13.460 you know from the book. You can't fill in a story or character holes from what you know from a book.
00:04:18.900 So I like to look at the film as its own piece to make sure that it works on its own. Completely the
00:04:25.200 opposite of what she said to this host at Capital FM. And now let's get into that rooftop scene
00:04:31.180 because she was also asked about that in this interview. You said that Ryan actually, your
00:04:36.300 husband Ryan Reynolds, wrote part of that rooftop scene. Is that true? Yeah, that's, I mean, I would
00:04:42.100 have to compare it to the original one, but that's 90 something, 99%. Yes. So this is quite
00:04:50.480 interesting because she's saying here as you could hear that Ryan wrote like 90, 99% of that rooftop
00:04:57.360 scene. But when Christy Hall is interviewed about it, she's saying here in an Us Weekly article,
00:05:05.940 it says here that according to Hall, when they filmed the scene, she wasn't aware that someone
00:05:10.380 had rewritten the script. She assumed the actors were improvising the changes. She's saying here,
00:05:16.180 like when he says, pretty pleased with a cherry on top, and she talks about the maraccino cherries.
00:05:22.800 When I saw a cut, I was like, oh, that's cute. That must have been a cute improvised thing. So I'm
00:05:30.300 being told that Ryan wrote that. And that's great. How wonderful, Hall said. There were a few little
00:05:35.760 flourishes that I did not write. And if those flourishes came from Ryan, I think that's wonderful.
00:05:42.680 So she is saying here that there were a few flourishes that she hadn't seen before, while
00:05:50.980 Blake is claiming that Ryan wrote the entire scene or 99% of it. And I noticed at the end of this
00:05:58.220 interview, I was like, she can't help herself. She has to be a little snide to this reporter, 1.00
00:06:04.520 ridiculing her a little bit before she leaves. So that's how I read this conversation anyways.
00:06:09.820 When the reporter is asking Blake if she has any tattoos that she regrets getting. And Blake says,
00:06:15.120 no, she doesn't. And the reporter says, you know, I told my mom this. I think she said she told her
00:06:20.780 last week or something that she did get a tattoo inside her lip because she wanted to hide it
00:06:26.460 from her mom. And then Blake responds like this. Yeah, I just this is my one tiny piece of rebellion.
00:06:32.920 I'm a proper like good girl and never get detention. So I just I got one on my gallbladder because I
00:06:37.340 wanted to make sure no one saw it. So I was just like it was it was a tricky process. But yeah,
00:06:41.920 so unnecessary and so awkward. And just like mocking the reporter is so obvious to me. I don't
00:06:49.300 know. Let me know what you think. Do you think that came off as not being rude? I felt it was just
00:06:53.520 so insensitive. But anyways, maybe that's just me. Blake was also asked in this deposition about the
00:06:58.760 sex scenes in this book. If she knew about them. I mean, she hadn't read the book. So how would she know
00:07:04.400 that this book had scenes like that? So the attorney is asking in April of 2023,
00:07:10.120 did you know that there were sex scenes in the novel It Ends With Us? And she says, yes.
00:07:14.720 And do you know what these scenes were? And then she's saying, I don't understand your question.
00:07:19.720 Okay. And then she's saying, he's saying, the book It Ends With Us has these scenes within
00:07:23.920 within the book, correct? I believe so. Yes, she says. She's not really sure about that.
00:07:30.280 You're not sure though, right? Says the attorney. I know there are sex scenes in the book. Yes.
00:07:35.920 Did you read the book? No. So how do you know that there were these scenes in the book?
00:07:40.380 And then it's cut off here. Then let's jump to her agent's deposition where he is asked about
00:07:46.740 these scenes if she was aware that there were these kind of scenes in the movie. So the attorney
00:07:52.020 is asking, and you understood that it had sexual violence content as well, correct? Correct.
00:07:58.600 And to the best of your knowledge, did Miss Lively understand that the movie had sexual content
00:08:03.720 before she agreed to accept the role, the role of Lily Bloom? And then he's like, oh, I don't know.
00:08:09.960 Should I answer this? She's asking, he's asking his attorney and he says, yes. And then they're
00:08:14.700 asking again, and did you in fact discuss the subject matter of the film with Miss Lively before she
00:08:19.560 accepted the role of Lily Bloom? What specifically is it asking? The sexual content. And he says, yes,
00:08:26.580 she wasn't going to do anything that was R rated. So there were simulated sex scenes in terms of a 1.00
00:08:33.000 romance, but it wasn't. I think the question you're asking has varying degrees. Okay. Tell me if
00:08:40.820 anything you discussed with Miss, with Ange Giannetti regarding potential scenes in the movie before
00:08:47.800 Miss Lively signed on. And he says, I don't know if we did. So it is your testimony that Miss Lively
00:08:54.860 told you there were sex scenes, but there were limits as to what she would do in connection with 1.00
00:09:00.360 those scenes. And then he's confused again, if he should answer this, they're going back and forth
00:09:05.040 there. And he answers his, I didn't have, I didn't have any. And they're asking, okay, no prior to your
00:09:11.720 visit to the set, did you have any conversation with Miss Lively in which she told you that she had
00:09:17.020 asked to do something on the set that she refused to do? I don't recall that at that point that she had
00:09:23.160 refused to do something. I didn't get a call from anybody about that. Did you provide Miss Lively
00:09:28.980 with a script prior to the time she accepted the role of Lily? Uh, yes, sorry, I did. Okay. So it's
00:09:36.300 clear here that Blake never intended to do an R rated movie, but she did sign on to do an R rated movie.
00:09:44.480 And as you know, she managed to change it into a PG 13 movie. I think it's so fascinating that they make
00:09:52.340 a movie about this serious subject to be a PG 13 movie. And here is a letter. I think Justin sent
00:09:58.900 this out to explain to everyone that now the movie is a PG 13 movie. He's saying now it's PG
00:10:05.600 13 film through and through all swearing has been removed aside from one F word placed in a very
00:10:11.800 important moment in a non-sexual way, making this film PG 13 has proven without a doubt to be the best,
00:10:18.300 what's best for the film and the audience. And he's saying here that Vegas was cut out from the
00:10:25.120 film. They had a scene in Vegas. And when they were shooting that scene, Blake Lively called in sick.
00:10:31.860 So the, so the whole shoot was canceled. And he's saying here, Vegas has been cut from the film as
00:10:37.900 has been the sex scene. We don't need more sex. We need to ground their marriage. Justin is saying here,
00:10:44.240 I'm assuming these are Blake ideas because as you know, from the beginning, Justin wanted to make a
00:10:49.920 different film. And now he's just pretending that he's agreeing with her, I guess. Anyways, as you can
00:10:55.980 hear, there's a lot of contradictions here. And I also wanted to mention this one thing that I found
00:11:00.720 quite shocking, actually. I hadn't seen this before, but in her deposition, Blake is also accusing
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00:12:57.580 my channel. Okay, so let's get into it here. So in Blake Lively's deposition, as I said, she's
00:13:04.860 claiming that Steve Sarawitz also S-aged her. And you have to hear her reasoning here. This is
00:13:12.040 mind-blowing. Do you believe you were personally S-aged in connection with the making of the film
00:13:16.820 It Ends With Us? And she says yes. Who do you believe S-aged you? Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heese. 0.83
00:13:22.460 Anyone else? If you're asking if my gender played a role in the behavior towards me, I would add Steve
00:13:28.320 Sarawitz to that. How did Steve Sarawitz S-aged you? He was the chairman of the studio, is my
00:13:36.440 understanding. And this is the studio that I was raising concerns with. And instead of addressing
00:13:41.680 concerns, I believe that I was dismissed. And so to use my own description, I do believe my gender
00:13:47.660 played a role in how I was treated. So she's accusing him of S-aging her because he was the
00:13:53.680 chairman of the studio. So that automatically makes him guilty of that. That makes Sony guilty
00:14:01.820 of S-age as well, if you ask me, because they didn't take her claims seriously either, according
00:14:08.100 to herself, because they didn't write a report. They didn't do anything to stop this behavior.
00:14:13.440 So then they should be on this list as well. But anyway, he continues to ask her here,
00:14:19.360 did you ever discuss with Steve Sarawitz the fact that you were S-aged? No. Did Steve Sarawitz
00:14:25.420 ever say anything to you that you felt was inappropriate or made you uncomfortable?
00:14:30.400 She's asking, she's responding to me, no. Did Steve Sarawitz affirmatively do anything himself
00:14:37.860 that made you feel uncomfortable or you felt was inappropriate? I felt him attending the birthing 0.99
00:14:45.320 scene was inappropriate. When was the birthing scene? May of 2023. And then they continue asking
00:14:51.700 about what Justin Baldoni did. And she talks about how he complimented her outfit once.
00:14:56.640 Anyways, so this birthing scene, as you know, is in her complaint as well. And she's saying that she felt
00:15:02.460 so uncomfortable in the scene because she had so little clothes on. And as we now know, and as we've
00:15:07.300 seen from video footage, she was actually wearing a hospital gown. She was wearing black briefs. She was
00:15:13.900 wearing a prosthetic stomach. So she didn't reveal anything else but her legs in this scene. And she 0.87
00:15:20.440 doesn't mention if Steve Sarawitz is in the room or if he's out there just watching the monitor when
00:15:25.900 they're actually filming this. And that equals to her that he S-aged her. That he was on the set when
00:15:33.460 she shot the movie that he paid for. Then she's asked about the first time Justin Baldoni S-aged her.
00:15:41.640 And you've heard this before, but I want to point out how she is caught lying here. Because she's asked,
00:15:49.100 when did, when was the first time he S-aged you? And she said, I recall him telling me that he's
00:15:56.600 circumcised. When did he tell you that? In December of 2022. And where were you physically? At my
00:16:02.360 apartment. Was that the time, was that the same meeting as we were previously discussing? It was
00:16:08.780 the same meeting. And how did that come up? Were you discussing something or it just came out of the
00:16:13.700 blue? And she's saying, I was pregnant and I didn't know the gender of my child. And we were
00:16:18.660 discussing different decisions that parents make and different factors, having boys versus girls.
00:16:24.500 I only had girls and we were discussing the different medical decisions people make these
00:16:29.360 days, including circumcision for male babies. And he's asking, and did he bring that up or did you
00:16:34.940 bring that up? I don't remember, she says. Yeah, she doesn't remember that, of course, but she
00:16:41.020 remember everything else. And then they're asking, what do you remember he said about circumcision?
00:16:45.280 He told me the decision that they made for their child. They bring him, they being him and his
00:16:52.880 wife, Emily, and then he offered that he was circumcised. And did you say anything in response
00:16:58.720 to that? I was in shock, she says. You say you were in shock. You couldn't speak? Ask the attorney.
00:17:06.520 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I said or did, she said. Did you tell him that you
00:17:12.140 were offended by it? No. Did you discuss with anyone else the fact that you were offended by
00:17:17.740 him saying that? Yes. Who did you discuss that with? My husband. Then they're asking, did this
00:17:24.680 comment in any way cause you to reconsider whether you wanted to do the film or not? And she says,
00:17:29.540 I found it disturbing. But given that it was one comment and he seemed nice, I wrote it off as him
00:17:35.740 taking a benign conversation too far and hoped and assumed it would be an isolated incident.
00:17:42.500 Did you ever tell him that he had taken that comment and by making that comment, he had taken
00:17:47.840 that too far? Yes. When did you tell him that? Me personally? Who else would it be anyways? And they
00:17:57.440 say, yes. And she says, I believe the date was January 4th, 2023. Prior to January 2023,
00:18:06.180 had you told him that he had taken that comment too far and that was an inappropriate comment?
00:18:12.340 And then she's asking that specific comments. Yeah. You're not talking about any other comments
00:18:17.320 there. And the attorney says, yes. And she says, no. And as you know, she mentioned that in the
00:18:23.940 January 4th meeting on that list of the 30 things of no more this and that. And she said,
00:18:28.900 no more talking about personal genitalia. So whatever she said. And then they're asking why 0.96
00:18:33.600 she never told him that that made her feel uncomfortable. And he says, there's a lot of
00:18:37.500 reason he was my boss. He was your boss at the time, not at the moment, but later you asked why I
00:18:44.140 didn't say something later. Is there a reason you didn't say something at the time?
00:18:48.380 I believe I already answered that question, she says. And then she's asked if she ever spoke to
00:18:53.440 Warren Zavala, her agent, about this. And she says, no, she don't think so. She don't recall,
00:18:59.080 whatever. Then in these legal papers where the both parties filed together the disputed and
00:19:06.880 undisputed facts about this case, it's mentioned here that during the meeting,
00:19:12.720 Lively read a long list of demands off her phone. They're talking about the January 4th meeting
00:19:18.680 that Blakely was reading this list of 30 things on from her phone. In addition to the protections
00:19:24.800 discussed above, these demands appear to refer to several incidents Lively had raised previously,
00:19:33.320 including Baldoni's reference to circumcision in their first meeting. And they're mentioning other
00:19:40.160 things here. So they're saying here that Blake had raised this concern previously, while she is
00:19:47.640 saying she never mentioned it until this meeting before, because he was her boss later on. But here
00:19:55.520 it says that this is undisputed, that she did raise this with him earlier. By the time of this meeting,
00:20:01.520 you also have to remember that Ryan Reynolds had sent a text message to Justin Baldoni asking him
00:20:07.100 to postpone the shoot by two weeks because he wanted to have more time with his wife. And he said,
00:20:12.840 if you can do that for me, I will tattoo the face of the line producer on my perineum, 0.99
00:20:22.780 which is an area between the anus and your private parts. So that was obviously okay to say, 0.99
00:20:30.160 but not to share information that you were circumcised. Yes, the contradictions keep coming.
00:20:35.700 And every time I read one of these depositions, I'm like, I've heard of that. I've heard about that
00:20:40.340 before. But that's not what this person said. And what this person said. So as I said, it's going to
00:20:45.100 be really interesting when this goes to trial, when all these people have to recall everything that
00:20:50.440 they said in the different depositions. Anyways, I wanted to end this episode with an interview that
00:20:56.140 I saw with Christian Bale yesterday. So Christian Bale doesn't have the best reputation in Hollywood.
00:21:01.520 There were some recordings released of him having tantrums on set, screaming and yelling at people.
00:21:07.360 And he was asked yesterday or the day before on a red carpet when he was promoting his new movie,
00:21:13.580 if there was anyone that he specifically wanted to meet, if he had any like heroes of other actors.
00:21:20.240 And his response to that was just priceless.
00:21:22.840 I don't want to meet people that I see in films. I don't want to meet my heroes. I see it in people's
00:21:28.240 eyes when they've watched my movies and loved them. And then they meet me and I see their eyes,
00:21:32.680 that terrible disappointment about who I really am. And it's true. What a disappointment. That's
00:21:38.080 me and my best in the movie. Never meet me. And I never want to meet my heroes either, because
00:21:42.960 they're heroic in what they do. But you know, give them a break. Nobody can be a hero all the time.
00:21:47.800 Yes, never meet your hero. People are not who you think they are. And as I said yesterday in my
00:21:54.640 episode as well, I think that a lot of people believe that Justin Baldoni is royal, the character
00:22:00.080 that he plays in We Dance With Us. And that's why they're supporting Blake in this legal drama.
00:22:05.380 And I think he said it so well here that, you know, you're only going to get disappointed if
00:22:09.940 you meet your heroes. It's so funny, because when I interviewed Blake Lively, and I asked her
00:22:15.900 about something similar, she responded like this.
00:22:20.080 Yeah, that people think that they know you, I think because of how intrusive media is these
00:22:25.320 days. People care so much more about your personal life than they do your work. And if
00:22:32.020 you aren't open with your personal life, then they just make it up for you and share it for
00:22:35.480 you. So I think the biggest misconception I see often is people feeling like they know
00:22:39.980 someone that they don't, because they know what the media has created of someone. And the
00:22:46.600 disappointing thing is when you meet the people, they're always so much more awesome than they're
00:22:51.960 portrayed to be. I mean, that's normally my experience. And even people that are portrayed
00:22:56.700 to be really great people, they're just a lot more complicated and interesting and nuanced
00:23:02.280 and caring and thoughtful. And that's always nice, you know, to see that your idea of someone
00:23:08.880 isn't always who they actually are.
00:23:11.660 Yeah, people are so much more awesome in real life. Anyways, let's end it at that. Thank
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