Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Stop Lying, Blake !!

00:00:00.000 You have to hear this story. It is so mind-blowing to me.

00:00:09.620 Hi and welcome to Fossum Talk. I'm Jashti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:14.000 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, so this morning I was watching

00:00:19.900 this interview that Blake did with Capital FM when she was promoting It Ends With Us.

00:00:26.140 And I was thinking, I've seen this trench coat before, the one she's wearing in this video,

00:00:31.800 and then I realized it's the same trench coat that Tyra Banks is wearing in the Netflix documentary.

00:00:40.680 What a coincidence. The two biggest villains in town right now are wearing the same outfits.

00:00:47.320 Yeah, it looks like it's from a Berberi Spring 2025 collection, if anyone's interested.

00:00:52.320 Anyways, that interview with Blake Lively, we're going to get back to that again in this episode,

00:00:56.880 because now, as I've also read more of her deposition, which I will share with you as well,

00:01:02.160 of course, there are some new very, very interesting contradictions here.

00:01:08.040 And maybe you could go as far as to call it lies.

00:01:11.200 In Blake's depositions, amongst other things, obviously, she's claiming that Steve Sarowitz

00:01:18.480 S.S. aged her. You have to hear this story. It is so mind-blowing to me. Also, we have to look

00:01:26.720 closer at what really happened with the script of It Ends With Us. I did go through a lot of that

00:01:31.920 mess in a previous episode this week, but now looking at some of the interviews that Blake Lively did

00:01:37.440 and Christy Hall did, there are so many things that doesn't add up. Oh my God, this is going to

00:01:44.840 look so bad in front of a jury. Okay, so let's get into it. As I said, I did speak about the script

00:01:50.500 the other day. I mentioned how so many people were involved here. Amongst them, of course,

00:01:56.240 Christy Hall, who was the official screenwriter of the movie. On top of that, Blake Lively wanted

00:02:02.140 her say in the script and kept changing it. Colleen Hoover wanted to have a say in the script and kept 0.99

00:02:06.900 changing things and asking for things. And also, Ange Giannetti from Sony wanted Justin to change

00:02:12.260 things around. And on top of that, Alex Sachs, one of the producers, were very involved in the script.

00:02:17.860 So it was a huge mess with all these people involved. And all of them wanted ownership.

00:02:23.500 All of them wanted authorship. And it ended up with everyone hating Justin. But let's get into this

00:02:28.960 rooftop scene again. This is so fascinating to me. There are so many contradictions to this story.

00:02:34.780 So as you know, Blake Lively dropped a bombshell on the red carpet, telling a reporter that her

00:02:40.880 husband actually wrote that rooftop scene. Well, now let's take a look at this interview she did

00:02:47.200 with Capital FM when she was promoting the movie in London. It was the same day as the movie was

00:02:54.240 actually premiering. And she said this to the host.

00:02:56.960 As to a producer on this movie as well. Yes.

00:02:59.040 Had you read the book and then you were like, I need to bring this to life. How did the whole film

00:03:03.440 come to life?

00:03:04.120 Oh, well, that's so nice of you to acknowledge the producing because so many people want to talk

00:03:07.460 about the acting. And honestly, the acting was the smallest contribution that I had to this film.

00:03:12.840 So I was I was very fortunate to have such authorship. I didn't find the rights of the book. I came into

00:03:18.580 it once the movie was was already a reality. And so it was really just about making sure that we

00:03:25.200 honor the book as best as possible. And that we also were able to bring ourselves and some authenticity

00:03:31.620 and hopefully even expand upon the book. As you can hear her, Blake is not admitting that she hasn't

00:03:38.380 actually read the book. She's pretending that she's read it. And she's saying that we had to work from

00:03:44.300 the book and we had to expand on the book without having read it. I really wish that the host would

00:03:50.440 have asked her, have you actually read it? Because we now know that she hasn't. And now we know the

00:03:56.300 excuse for why she didn't read the book from her deposition. She's asked by Justin's attorney if

00:04:03.320 she read the book. And she says here that what works better for me is it is to not read the book

00:04:08.260 in advance because it is hard for me to see the blind spots in the film because you can't unlearn what

00:04:13.460 you know from the book. You can't fill in a story or character holes from what you know from a book.

00:04:18.900 So I like to look at the film as its own piece to make sure that it works on its own. Completely the

00:04:25.200 opposite of what she said to this host at Capital FM. And now let's get into that rooftop scene

00:04:31.180 because she was also asked about that in this interview. You said that Ryan actually, your

00:04:36.300 husband Ryan Reynolds, wrote part of that rooftop scene. Is that true? Yeah, that's, I mean, I would

00:04:42.100 have to compare it to the original one, but that's 90 something, 99%. Yes. So this is quite

00:04:50.480 interesting because she's saying here as you could hear that Ryan wrote like 90, 99% of that rooftop

00:04:57.360 scene. But when Christy Hall is interviewed about it, she's saying here in an Us Weekly article,

00:05:05.940 it says here that according to Hall, when they filmed the scene, she wasn't aware that someone

00:05:10.380 had rewritten the script. She assumed the actors were improvising the changes. She's saying here,

00:05:16.180 like when he says, pretty pleased with a cherry on top, and she talks about the maraccino cherries.

00:05:22.800 When I saw a cut, I was like, oh, that's cute. That must have been a cute improvised thing. So I'm

00:05:30.300 being told that Ryan wrote that. And that's great. How wonderful, Hall said. There were a few little

00:05:35.760 flourishes that I did not write. And if those flourishes came from Ryan, I think that's wonderful.

00:05:42.680 So she is saying here that there were a few flourishes that she hadn't seen before, while

00:05:50.980 Blake is claiming that Ryan wrote the entire scene or 99% of it. And I noticed at the end of this

00:05:58.220 interview, I was like, she can't help herself. She has to be a little snide to this reporter, 1.00

00:06:04.520 ridiculing her a little bit before she leaves. So that's how I read this conversation anyways.

00:06:09.820 When the reporter is asking Blake if she has any tattoos that she regrets getting. And Blake says,

00:06:15.120 no, she doesn't. And the reporter says, you know, I told my mom this. I think she said she told her

00:06:20.780 last week or something that she did get a tattoo inside her lip because she wanted to hide it

00:06:26.460 from her mom. And then Blake responds like this. Yeah, I just this is my one tiny piece of rebellion.

00:06:32.920 I'm a proper like good girl and never get detention. So I just I got one on my gallbladder because I

00:06:37.340 wanted to make sure no one saw it. So I was just like it was it was a tricky process. But yeah,

00:06:41.920 so unnecessary and so awkward. And just like mocking the reporter is so obvious to me. I don't

00:06:49.300 know. Let me know what you think. Do you think that came off as not being rude? I felt it was just

00:06:53.520 so insensitive. But anyways, maybe that's just me. Blake was also asked in this deposition about the

00:06:58.760 sex scenes in this book. If she knew about them. I mean, she hadn't read the book. So how would she know

00:07:04.400 that this book had scenes like that? So the attorney is asking in April of 2023,

00:07:10.120 did you know that there were sex scenes in the novel It Ends With Us? And she says, yes.

00:07:14.720 And do you know what these scenes were? And then she's saying, I don't understand your question.

00:07:19.720 Okay. And then she's saying, he's saying, the book It Ends With Us has these scenes within

00:07:23.920 within the book, correct? I believe so. Yes, she says. She's not really sure about that.

00:07:30.280 You're not sure though, right? Says the attorney. I know there are sex scenes in the book. Yes.

00:07:35.920 Did you read the book? No. So how do you know that there were these scenes in the book?

00:07:40.380 And then it's cut off here. Then let's jump to her agent's deposition where he is asked about

00:07:46.740 these scenes if she was aware that there were these kind of scenes in the movie. So the attorney

00:07:52.020 is asking, and you understood that it had sexual violence content as well, correct? Correct.

00:07:58.600 And to the best of your knowledge, did Miss Lively understand that the movie had sexual content

00:08:03.720 before she agreed to accept the role, the role of Lily Bloom? And then he's like, oh, I don't know.

00:08:09.960 Should I answer this? She's asking, he's asking his attorney and he says, yes. And then they're

00:08:14.700 asking again, and did you in fact discuss the subject matter of the film with Miss Lively before she

00:08:19.560 accepted the role of Lily Bloom? What specifically is it asking? The sexual content. And he says, yes,

00:08:26.580 she wasn't going to do anything that was R rated. So there were simulated sex scenes in terms of a 1.00

00:08:33.000 romance, but it wasn't. I think the question you're asking has varying degrees. Okay. Tell me if

00:08:40.820 anything you discussed with Miss, with Ange Giannetti regarding potential scenes in the movie before

00:08:47.800 Miss Lively signed on. And he says, I don't know if we did. So it is your testimony that Miss Lively

00:08:54.860 told you there were sex scenes, but there were limits as to what she would do in connection with 1.00

00:09:00.360 those scenes. And then he's confused again, if he should answer this, they're going back and forth

00:09:05.040 there. And he answers his, I didn't have, I didn't have any. And they're asking, okay, no prior to your

00:09:11.720 visit to the set, did you have any conversation with Miss Lively in which she told you that she had

00:09:17.020 asked to do something on the set that she refused to do? I don't recall that at that point that she had

00:09:23.160 refused to do something. I didn't get a call from anybody about that. Did you provide Miss Lively

00:09:28.980 with a script prior to the time she accepted the role of Lily? Uh, yes, sorry, I did. Okay. So it's

00:09:36.300 clear here that Blake never intended to do an R rated movie, but she did sign on to do an R rated movie.

00:09:44.480 And as you know, she managed to change it into a PG 13 movie. I think it's so fascinating that they make

00:09:52.340 a movie about this serious subject to be a PG 13 movie. And here is a letter. I think Justin sent

00:09:58.900 this out to explain to everyone that now the movie is a PG 13 movie. He's saying now it's PG

00:10:05.600 13 film through and through all swearing has been removed aside from one F word placed in a very

00:10:11.800 important moment in a non-sexual way, making this film PG 13 has proven without a doubt to be the best,

00:10:18.300 what's best for the film and the audience. And he's saying here that Vegas was cut out from the

00:10:25.120 film. They had a scene in Vegas. And when they were shooting that scene, Blake Lively called in sick.

00:10:31.860 So the, so the whole shoot was canceled. And he's saying here, Vegas has been cut from the film as

00:10:37.900 has been the sex scene. We don't need more sex. We need to ground their marriage. Justin is saying here,

00:10:44.240 I'm assuming these are Blake ideas because as you know, from the beginning, Justin wanted to make a

00:10:49.920 different film. And now he's just pretending that he's agreeing with her, I guess. Anyways, as you can

00:10:55.980 hear, there's a lot of contradictions here. And I also wanted to mention this one thing that I found

00:11:00.720 quite shocking, actually. I hadn't seen this before, but in her deposition, Blake is also accusing

00:11:07.480 Steve Sarowitz of S Aging Her. And the reasoning for that is just absurd. But before we get into

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00:12:57.580 my channel. Okay, so let's get into it here. So in Blake Lively's deposition, as I said, she's

00:13:04.860 claiming that Steve Sarawitz also S-aged her. And you have to hear her reasoning here. This is

00:13:12.040 mind-blowing. Do you believe you were personally S-aged in connection with the making of the film

00:13:16.820 It Ends With Us? And she says yes. Who do you believe S-aged you? Justin Baldoni and Jamie Heese. 0.83

00:13:22.460 Anyone else? If you're asking if my gender played a role in the behavior towards me, I would add Steve

00:13:28.320 Sarawitz to that. How did Steve Sarawitz S-aged you? He was the chairman of the studio, is my

00:13:36.440 understanding. And this is the studio that I was raising concerns with. And instead of addressing

00:13:41.680 concerns, I believe that I was dismissed. And so to use my own description, I do believe my gender

00:13:47.660 played a role in how I was treated. So she's accusing him of S-aging her because he was the

00:13:53.680 chairman of the studio. So that automatically makes him guilty of that. That makes Sony guilty

00:14:01.820 of S-age as well, if you ask me, because they didn't take her claims seriously either, according

00:14:08.100 to herself, because they didn't write a report. They didn't do anything to stop this behavior.

00:14:13.440 So then they should be on this list as well. But anyway, he continues to ask her here,

00:14:19.360 did you ever discuss with Steve Sarawitz the fact that you were S-aged? No. Did Steve Sarawitz

00:14:25.420 ever say anything to you that you felt was inappropriate or made you uncomfortable?

00:14:30.400 She's asking, she's responding to me, no. Did Steve Sarawitz affirmatively do anything himself

00:14:37.860 that made you feel uncomfortable or you felt was inappropriate? I felt him attending the birthing 0.99

00:14:45.320 scene was inappropriate. When was the birthing scene? May of 2023. And then they continue asking

00:14:51.700 about what Justin Baldoni did. And she talks about how he complimented her outfit once.

00:14:56.640 Anyways, so this birthing scene, as you know, is in her complaint as well. And she's saying that she felt

00:15:02.460 so uncomfortable in the scene because she had so little clothes on. And as we now know, and as we've

00:15:07.300 seen from video footage, she was actually wearing a hospital gown. She was wearing black briefs. She was

00:15:13.900 wearing a prosthetic stomach. So she didn't reveal anything else but her legs in this scene. And she 0.87

00:15:20.440 doesn't mention if Steve Sarawitz is in the room or if he's out there just watching the monitor when

00:15:25.900 they're actually filming this. And that equals to her that he S-aged her. That he was on the set when

00:15:33.460 she shot the movie that he paid for. Then she's asked about the first time Justin Baldoni S-aged her.

00:15:41.640 And you've heard this before, but I want to point out how she is caught lying here. Because she's asked,

00:15:49.100 when did, when was the first time he S-aged you? And she said, I recall him telling me that he's

00:15:56.600 circumcised. When did he tell you that? In December of 2022. And where were you physically? At my

00:16:02.360 apartment. Was that the time, was that the same meeting as we were previously discussing? It was

00:16:08.780 the same meeting. And how did that come up? Were you discussing something or it just came out of the

00:16:13.700 blue? And she's saying, I was pregnant and I didn't know the gender of my child. And we were

00:16:18.660 discussing different decisions that parents make and different factors, having boys versus girls.

00:16:24.500 I only had girls and we were discussing the different medical decisions people make these

00:16:29.360 days, including circumcision for male babies. And he's asking, and did he bring that up or did you

00:16:34.940 bring that up? I don't remember, she says. Yeah, she doesn't remember that, of course, but she

00:16:41.020 remember everything else. And then they're asking, what do you remember he said about circumcision?

00:16:45.280 He told me the decision that they made for their child. They bring him, they being him and his

00:16:52.880 wife, Emily, and then he offered that he was circumcised. And did you say anything in response

00:16:58.720 to that? I was in shock, she says. You say you were in shock. You couldn't speak? Ask the attorney.

00:17:06.520 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I said or did, she said. Did you tell him that you

00:17:12.140 were offended by it? No. Did you discuss with anyone else the fact that you were offended by

00:17:17.740 him saying that? Yes. Who did you discuss that with? My husband. Then they're asking, did this

00:17:24.680 comment in any way cause you to reconsider whether you wanted to do the film or not? And she says,

00:17:29.540 I found it disturbing. But given that it was one comment and he seemed nice, I wrote it off as him

00:17:35.740 taking a benign conversation too far and hoped and assumed it would be an isolated incident.

00:17:42.500 Did you ever tell him that he had taken that comment and by making that comment, he had taken

00:17:47.840 that too far? Yes. When did you tell him that? Me personally? Who else would it be anyways? And they

00:17:57.440 say, yes. And she says, I believe the date was January 4th, 2023. Prior to January 2023,

00:18:06.180 had you told him that he had taken that comment too far and that was an inappropriate comment?

00:18:12.340 And then she's asking that specific comments. Yeah. You're not talking about any other comments

00:18:17.320 there. And the attorney says, yes. And she says, no. And as you know, she mentioned that in the

00:18:23.940 January 4th meeting on that list of the 30 things of no more this and that. And she said,

00:18:28.900 no more talking about personal genitalia. So whatever she said. And then they're asking why 0.96

00:18:33.600 she never told him that that made her feel uncomfortable. And he says, there's a lot of

00:18:37.500 reason he was my boss. He was your boss at the time, not at the moment, but later you asked why I

00:18:44.140 didn't say something later. Is there a reason you didn't say something at the time?

00:18:48.380 I believe I already answered that question, she says. And then she's asked if she ever spoke to

00:18:53.440 Warren Zavala, her agent, about this. And she says, no, she don't think so. She don't recall,

00:18:59.080 whatever. Then in these legal papers where the both parties filed together the disputed and

00:19:06.880 undisputed facts about this case, it's mentioned here that during the meeting,

00:19:12.720 Lively read a long list of demands off her phone. They're talking about the January 4th meeting

00:19:18.680 that Blakely was reading this list of 30 things on from her phone. In addition to the protections

00:19:24.800 discussed above, these demands appear to refer to several incidents Lively had raised previously,

00:19:33.320 including Baldoni's reference to circumcision in their first meeting. And they're mentioning other

00:19:40.160 things here. So they're saying here that Blake had raised this concern previously, while she is

00:19:47.640 saying she never mentioned it until this meeting before, because he was her boss later on. But here

00:19:55.520 it says that this is undisputed, that she did raise this with him earlier. By the time of this meeting,

00:20:01.520 you also have to remember that Ryan Reynolds had sent a text message to Justin Baldoni asking him

00:20:07.100 to postpone the shoot by two weeks because he wanted to have more time with his wife. And he said,

00:20:12.840 if you can do that for me, I will tattoo the face of the line producer on my perineum, 0.99

00:20:22.780 which is an area between the anus and your private parts. So that was obviously okay to say, 0.99

00:20:30.160 but not to share information that you were circumcised. Yes, the contradictions keep coming.

00:20:35.700 And every time I read one of these depositions, I'm like, I've heard of that. I've heard about that

00:20:40.340 before. But that's not what this person said. And what this person said. So as I said, it's going to

00:20:45.100 be really interesting when this goes to trial, when all these people have to recall everything that

00:20:50.440 they said in the different depositions. Anyways, I wanted to end this episode with an interview that

00:20:56.140 I saw with Christian Bale yesterday. So Christian Bale doesn't have the best reputation in Hollywood.

00:21:01.520 There were some recordings released of him having tantrums on set, screaming and yelling at people.

00:21:07.360 And he was asked yesterday or the day before on a red carpet when he was promoting his new movie,

00:21:13.580 if there was anyone that he specifically wanted to meet, if he had any like heroes of other actors.

00:21:20.240 And his response to that was just priceless.

00:21:22.840 I don't want to meet people that I see in films. I don't want to meet my heroes. I see it in people's

00:21:28.240 eyes when they've watched my movies and loved them. And then they meet me and I see their eyes,

00:21:32.680 that terrible disappointment about who I really am. And it's true. What a disappointment. That's

00:21:38.080 me and my best in the movie. Never meet me. And I never want to meet my heroes either, because

00:21:42.960 they're heroic in what they do. But you know, give them a break. Nobody can be a hero all the time.

00:21:47.800 Yes, never meet your hero. People are not who you think they are. And as I said yesterday in my

00:21:54.640 episode as well, I think that a lot of people believe that Justin Baldoni is royal, the character

00:22:00.080 that he plays in We Dance With Us. And that's why they're supporting Blake in this legal drama.

00:22:05.380 And I think he said it so well here that, you know, you're only going to get disappointed if

00:22:09.940 you meet your heroes. It's so funny, because when I interviewed Blake Lively, and I asked her

00:22:15.900 about something similar, she responded like this.

00:22:20.080 Yeah, that people think that they know you, I think because of how intrusive media is these

00:22:25.320 days. People care so much more about your personal life than they do your work. And if

00:22:32.020 you aren't open with your personal life, then they just make it up for you and share it for

00:22:35.480 you. So I think the biggest misconception I see often is people feeling like they know

00:22:39.980 someone that they don't, because they know what the media has created of someone. And the

00:22:46.600 disappointing thing is when you meet the people, they're always so much more awesome than they're

00:22:51.960 portrayed to be. I mean, that's normally my experience. And even people that are portrayed

00:22:56.700 to be really great people, they're just a lot more complicated and interesting and nuanced

00:23:02.280 and caring and thoughtful. And that's always nice, you know, to see that your idea of someone

00:23:08.880 isn't always who they actually are.

00:23:11.660 Yeah, people are so much more awesome in real life. Anyways, let's end it at that. Thank

00:23:19.380 you so much for watching, you guys. I hope you're going to have an amazing weekend. And

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - February 28, 2026

Stop Lying, Blake !!

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