Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Taylor's ROLE is EVEN WORSE !!!

00:00:00.000 we haven't heard this message. And it looks like here that Taylor actually deleted the message

00:00:06.620 after she had listened to it.

00:00:13.060 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Tashli Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,

00:00:17.540 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Okay, so I've been looking into the

00:00:25.620 text messages between Blake and Tyler again. And I was really shocked that I missed this before.

00:00:31.800 But it actually shows that Taylor had read the entire New York Times article over two weeks before

00:00:42.200 it was published. This breaks every rule of journalistic ethics. Also, let's look at what

00:00:48.880 happened accidentally just after that New York Times article dropped. How SAG-AFTRA came out

00:00:56.420 with the statement, this really didn't age well. Also, someone sent me, thank you so much,

00:01:03.180 this clip of Patrick Stewart talking about how he was snipped on Graham Norton's show. And Hugh

00:01:10.160 Jackman was laughing his butt off. I guess not everyone gets offended and shocked to the point

00:01:17.180 where they're speechless when someone shares that they're circumcised. Okay, let's get into it.

00:01:22.700 So as I said, these text messages between Blake and Taylor show something that I didn't notice before,

00:01:30.040 which is that Taylor obviously had read the New York Times article before it was released.

00:01:36.780 This is like such a no, no, no in journalism. I remember when I was a part of a big expose that

00:01:44.600 LA Times worked on in regards to the Golden Globes and all the corruption and bullying and horrible

00:01:50.920 things going on in that organization. I was one of their main sources for that article and they didn't

00:01:57.400 even share with me when it was going to be released. The only thing I had control over was my own quotes.

00:02:05.740 That is how real journalism works. In this scenario, New York Times shared, I think,

00:02:12.900 several edits with Blake Lively before it was published and Blake even shared it with Taylor.

00:02:20.720 Sources of an article are not supposed to know the framing and the narrative of the article before

00:02:27.500 it's published. And this just proves that this was not an investigative article. This was Megan

00:02:34.760 Thuy working on behalf of Blake Lively. Let's look at these texts between Blake and Taylor.

00:02:39.520 This is on December 5th of 2024. So two and a half weeks before the New York Times published the article

00:02:49.560 on December 21st of 2024. Taylor is saying to Blake, first paragraph took me out. Blake responds,

00:03:00.740 if only I sent you the unplugged version and then a skull, meaning that there was a version probably

00:03:08.820 before this one that was even worse for Boldoni. That's what I'm guessing from this text message.

00:03:16.280 I'm not sure, but I'm sure that Taylor has read the article. Then Blake says, I've sent you a voice memo,

00:03:23.420 but it doesn't show on our thread, which is really helping my case of not trusting phones.

00:03:31.400 Funny that she should say that while she is holding Jennifer Abel's phone in her hand,

00:03:37.960 Justin Baldoni's publicist. She doesn't trust her own phone, but she can go in and look at all the

00:03:44.340 private messages on someone else's phone. Anyways, Taylor responds, yes, I'm just falling asleep,

00:03:50.340 but I'll listen tomorrow. Love you. And then Blake says, it's the length of a miniseries sleep. Of

00:03:56.600 course, Blake, as you know, loves word salads and she loves really, really long messages. We haven't

00:04:03.840 heard this message. And it looks like here that Taylor actually deleted the message after she had

00:04:10.880 listened to it. Maybe she knew that that was a smart thing to do so it wouldn't show up in discovery.

00:04:17.240 Blake sends back to Taylor that XX love you. And then this famous quote from Taylor saying,

00:04:23.500 I think this bitch knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny violin. And then 1.00

00:04:28.300 she's referring to this People magazine article where Justin talks about how he was traumatized by an

00:04:34.420 ex-girlfriend and open up about that publicly. And of course, Taylor believes that he's doing that only

00:04:40.260 because he knows something bigger is coming. So he's trying to prepare for that to get the public on

00:04:46.140 his side. Blake says to Taylor, it rings different when he doesn't end the story by saying, did I

00:04:51.340 always listen when they said no? No, like he did with me, but that must not have tested well in the

00:04:58.740 focus groups. So when did she actually say no and he didn't listen? I don't know. Did she tell

00:05:06.380 Taylor something about that, that he had actually done something to her and she said no and he didn't

00:05:12.240 listen? If there's anything Justin did this entire time with Blake, it's just roll over for everything

00:05:20.300 she asked him to do. So yes, whenever did he say no to Blake? And then Blake says something here. She

00:05:26.720 says he's being honored at the Vital Voices for Women event on Monday. And Taylor says this is so

00:05:33.000 disgusting and I hate that he's clever about this shit. So obviously Taylor is talking about Justin here 1.00

00:05:39.480 as someone that's scheming behind the scenes, just like her and Blake are doing in these text messages

00:05:45.260 because she's calling him so clever for receiving an award. I mean, and Blake continues to say this

00:05:51.780 inspiring event celebrates men who are using their platforms, influence and leadership to elevate

00:05:56.780 women, combat gender-based violence and promote gender equality worldwide. So I'll get back to this

00:06:03.840 award shortly because this is quite interesting what happened with that award. Taylor says he needs to

00:06:09.400 be beaten by his own words. And Blake says everyone weighs in before he responds to a text, writes an email or trims

00:06:17.400 his hair. It's wild. Everyone participates. Yeah, I actually think it's important he's honored. And to all the

00:06:25.540 people honoring him and not taking a moment to question, no one talks to him. No one will say his name. No one

00:06:33.500 follows him yet they all are close with each other. Maybe it was him. Nah, it was the women because they 0.99

00:06:42.020 were flowers. That's how you know. Blake is explaining that she's only getting backlash before she, because

00:06:48.360 she wore flowers and the public and everyone else needs to look at Justin and Jamie. Maybe it's not her. 0.58

00:06:55.560 Maybe it's them. And Taylor says, Jesus Christ, is everything still on track? She's asking here. Which is

00:07:04.020 another big tell that she knew everything about this New York Times article and all the fallout that would

00:07:12.660 come from the article as well. Oh yes, Blake says. A week later though, but worth the wait. So they were

00:07:21.320 planning to actually release that article a week earlier, which would have been kind of nicer to

00:07:29.720 everyone that they're accusing in that article. So they wouldn't be stuck with that article throughout

00:07:35.240 Christmas without being even able to respond legally to it. Because the courts, as you know,

00:07:40.700 they were closed in between December 21st and after New Year. So Justin's team had no chance to

00:07:48.760 respond to any of this. We don't know who decided to pick that date. Maybe Blake did. Maybe Ryan did.

00:07:56.180 I don't know. Because it seemed like they had full control over everything in this article. Taylor says,

00:08:03.420 okay, that's perfect. His own words, that's going to be powerful. So she knows that in this article as

00:08:11.420 well, they are beating Justin with his own words, as she's saying herself, by pointing out that he's

00:08:18.160 supposed to be this feminist and this voice for women, and then he's the opposite, according to

00:08:23.560 them. This is my favorite text from Blake ever. She says, that's what's wild about this entire thing.

00:08:32.000 Everything is in their own words. That is so funny to me that she's saying that, because obviously

00:08:40.000 all the backlash that Blake might have received herself was because of her own words. And now

00:08:47.380 she's saying that that's what's about to happen to Justin Baldoni. It's so funny, like I've said so

00:08:51.800 many times before, everything she's accusing them of, they are guilty of. She's guilty of. Ryan is

00:08:59.120 guilty of. Taylor is guilty of. And here comes some good advice from Taylor. It's the only way to beat

00:09:05.140 liars and hypocrites. Again, who are the liars and the hypocrites here? Anyways, Blake says, can you 1.00

00:09:12.820 imagine feeling as confident as these predators that you're going, that you're going to always get

00:09:19.000 away with it? Well, I know someone else who thought they could get away with everything. And then she

00:09:24.500 continues, him accepting an award as an ally for women. And Scooter, Scooter Braun, going about the world

00:09:32.800 with his head held high as he co-owns and funds a crisis PR company that silences women. So Scooter Braun,

00:09:41.840 as you know, had a big conflict with Taylor Swift. And he also is a co-owner in TAG, the crisis management

00:09:50.520 company that Melissa Nathan, the crisis manager that worked for Justin Baldoni, works for. And that's also why

00:09:59.260 they tried to drag Scooter Braun into this. As you might remember, he was mentioned in court documents

00:10:05.840 and they wanted to subpoena him. I don't think that happened. But now I have a feeling, because as you

00:10:11.940 know, Taylor hates Scooter, that maybe she also was pushing for that, to drag him into that because he

00:10:19.100 owned a company that Blake accused of smearing her. Taylor says it's like a horror show no one knows

00:10:28.680 is taking place. I think that's a great way to explain exactly what Blake Lively did to Justin.

00:10:36.120 A horror show that no one knew was taking place except the people involved. And everyone on the

00:10:41.400 outside, people like us, we were just sitting here like, oh, that seems like a creepy thing to do.

00:10:47.580 But now we know the truth. But then Blake says to Taylor about the horror film no one knows is taking

00:10:53.180 place. She says, oh, but they will. It's the only thing that can come of this. The good that protects

00:10:59.900 other women from this happening to them. Oh my god, it's like she actually believes that something has

00:11:06.280 happened to her. Then she says, meanwhile, I walk around being death sentence guilty and apologetic

00:11:13.500 for being sarcastic and liking a theme party. I think the sarcasm thing, maybe she is referring to the

00:11:21.840 interview she did with me. I'm guessing she would defend herself that she was just being sarcastic 0.98

00:11:27.260 when she said, congrats on your little bump. And the theme party is the flower thing that we know

00:11:31.860 she got so much flack for because she didn't promote the movie as it should have been promoted.

00:11:36.780 Yeah, it's so clear to me here, the collaboration between Blake Lively and the New York Times.

00:11:43.320 I think we've known that for a while that they worked on this article for months,

00:11:47.520 and then they didn't allow Justin Baldoni and his team to respond until 24 hours before it was

00:11:54.540 published. And now we know Taylor read the article two and a half weeks beforehand. And this also gave

00:12:00.940 Blake and her team a lot of time to prepare on everything they wanted to happen around this article,

00:12:07.460 how they wanted the industry to react to this article. So they prepped everyone for how they should

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00:14:07.500 industry reacted to this article being dropped. I somehow missed this, that SAG-AFTRA even came out

00:14:16.900 with a statement. Let's look into this article from the Hollywood Reporter. Justin Baldoni's Voices of

00:14:23.060 Solidarity Award rescinded after Blake Lively legal action. The it ends with as co-star and director

00:14:29.680 received the award honoring remarkable men who have shown courage and compassion in advocating on behalf of

00:14:36.640 women and girls earlier this month. This is the award that Blake was telling Taylor about. I find it

00:14:43.920 interesting that they would revoke this reward so quickly after that article dropped in the New York

00:14:51.860 Times. As we know, these were just allegations. Nothing was proven yet. And one major thing that makes me

00:14:59.360 believe that they knew about this article is the fact that they responded to this and they withdrew or

00:15:06.540 revoked his award already on Monday morning. This article was published on a Saturday, December 21st,

00:15:15.560 and they responded to this the day before Christmas, meaning that they have been having a crisis meeting

00:15:23.080 in the weekend when everyone was ready for Christmas. I actually don't think so. But who knows? I might be

00:15:30.720 wrong. This might be them just panicking and like, oh, we gave an award. Let's finish quickly and take it

00:15:36.340 back. I've never seen this happen to anyone in Hollywood before, that there are allegations against

00:15:42.080 someone and then the industry reacts like this instantly without having any proof. It's funny when you look at

00:15:48.220 this Instagram post now that the Vital Voices posted back in December 23rd, 2024, because now every

00:15:57.380 comment on this Instagram post is like, hey, you owe Justin Baldoni an apology. So they posted this

00:16:05.920 saying Voices of Solidarity Award honors remarkable men who've shown courage and compassion in advocating on

00:16:11.740 behalf of women and girls. On December 9th, 2024, we recognized Justin Baldoni with his award on

00:16:17.860 Saturday, December 21st. We learned through news reports about a lawsuit brought by Blake Lively

00:16:23.780 against Mr. Baldoni, his publicist and other that is disturbing and alleges abhorrent conduct.

00:16:31.020 The communications among Mr. Baldoni and his publicist included in the lawsuit and the PR effort

00:16:36.620 they indicate are alone contrary to the values of Vital Voices and the spirit of the award.

00:16:42.600 We have notified Mr. Baldoni that we have rescinded his this award. Can you imagine if someone accuses a

00:16:51.400 two-time Oscar winner about something and the Academy the next day or two days later would say,

00:16:57.960 hey, send us the award back? First of all, obviously, these are just allegations and they just say,

00:17:03.200 okay, we believe it because it was in the New York Times. That's a major issue to begin with. But the fact

00:17:08.560 that some people I've seen that are supporting Blake are claiming that both Justin and Jamie Heath and,

00:17:16.320 of course, Steve Sarowicz, who also is the co-owner of the Wayfair Studios, created an entire studio

00:17:24.400 based on diversity, inclusion, women's rights, all these things. And they choose to do their projects

00:17:34.080 based on these values. They believe that they only did that so they could get away with being

00:17:40.920 anti-feminist and being creepy. I mean, it's so absurd to me. Why would you make such an effort

00:17:48.380 to pretend that you are something else than you are? And this just makes the Voices of Solidarity

00:17:54.460 award a joke. This article also points out that there is a statement from Sony here as well.

00:18:02.140 Now that we know that representatives for Sony call Blake Vively terrorists in text messages

00:18:08.800 and emails, this is quite funny. It says here,

00:18:12.640 it ends with us, was distributed by Sony Pictures. In a statement following the complaint filing,

00:18:17.600 a spokesperson told the Hollywood Reporter,

00:18:20.760 we have previously expressed our support for Blake in connection with her work on and for the film.

00:18:27.200 We fully and firmly reiterate that support today.

00:18:30.880 Further, we strongly condemn any reputational attacks on her. Any such attacks have no place

00:18:38.300 in our business or in a civil society. Yeah, isn't this funny now when we know what they wrote about

00:18:45.020 Blake behind her back? I think it was like three people, three different people from Sony showing

00:18:51.420 their frustration over her actions and over her behavior. And of course here, they're so supportive of

00:18:58.200 her. Maybe the most shocking thing to me was to read what SAG-AFTRA said. Because you know SAG-AFTRA is

00:19:04.380 the union that's supposed to support their members. Justin Baldoni is also a member of SAG-AFTRA,

00:19:11.980 but SAG-AFTRA decided that they didn't care about him at all. And instead of investigating

00:19:17.620 themselves, which should be their job, they decided to jump on the train without having any evidence of

00:19:23.820 what actually had happened. As many people have called out already, is that Blake Lively should

00:19:30.320 have gone to SAG-AFTRA and complained about these things, about Justin Baldoni, because that's what

00:19:37.180 a union, that's one of the things that this union is for. Why did she choose not to go to SAG and

00:19:44.200 complain? Because she didn't want SAG-AFTRA to investigate, obviously. 1.00

00:19:49.640 We also know that Blake reportedly bypassed a standard investigation by California Civil Rights

00:19:57.600 Department when she filed that CRD complaint. So when you do that, they offer an investigation

00:20:04.800 of the case, of the things that you are claiming in that complaint. And Blake Lively did not want them

00:20:12.460 to investigate. She also refused a third party to investigate her claims because as soon as this

00:20:20.020 happened, the Wayfair party said, hey, we've hired this company. They can do an investigation. They're

00:20:26.140 going to be completely objective here. And Blake Lively said, no, I don't want any investigation

00:20:32.160 into any of my claims. SAG-AFTRA came with this statement to the Hollywood Reporter. They said,

00:20:39.020 these are startling and troubling allegations. Allegations. Nothing is proven. They're even

00:20:47.220 saying they are allegations, but we just feel that we should believe them. Employees have every right

00:20:55.220 to raise issues of concern or to file complaints. Retaliation for reporting misconduct or inappropriate

00:21:01.740 behavior is illegal and wrong. The guilt said in a statement to the Hollywood Reporter.

00:21:09.020 They continue, we applaud Blake Lively's courage in speaking out on issues of retaliation

00:21:15.300 and harassment and for her request to have an intimacy coordinator for all scenes with nudity

00:21:21.740 and sexual content. They're saying that they applaud Blake Lively without even knowing what has happened

00:21:29.680 behind the scenes. Without knowing, obviously, that she was offered to meet with an intimacy

00:21:36.320 coordinator before the shoot actually started and she declined. She was also given an intimacy

00:21:44.160 coordinator for all those scenes who didn't actually need one. There is no scene that she wasn't offered

00:21:51.280 an intimacy coordinator that was supposed to be one there. But here they make it sound like there was

00:21:57.200 no intimacy coordinator. The only time there wasn't one was when they were doing like a kissing scene

00:22:03.200 in the bar. As we know, there's been a lot of talk about that kissing scene. And Blake said that he

00:22:08.420 tried to kiss her when he wasn't supposed to. But now we know, we've seen the video, we know what

00:22:14.680 happened. Everything was so well planned in that scene. And there were two people pretending, acting,

00:22:21.700 that they fell in love. SAG-AFTRA continues to say that,

00:22:25.780 this is an important step that helps ensure a safe set. We all have a right to be treated with dignity

00:22:32.440 and respect on the job and to work in an environment free of harassment, discrimination, and retaliation.

00:22:39.420 I totally agree. But are you claiming here that that's what happened to Blake without having any evidence?

00:22:46.660 And then they say, we urge anyone who may be experiencing abusive conduct to report such violation

00:22:52.060 on our SAG-AFTRA safe place app and to their employer. So yes, this is a very biased statement

00:23:01.360 from SAG-AFTRA. And I find this extremely disappointing. Because as I said, they didn't know what was true

00:23:09.600 yet. They just thought, okay, Blake is a woman. Blake is more famous than Justin. We'll just support her.

00:23:16.240 I think they owe him a huge apology. Get in line. So many people owe Justin Baldoni, Jamie Heath,

00:23:24.160 Steve Sarowitz, and all the publicists on that side a huge apology. This is funny because they're

00:23:29.780 also mentioning who else is actually supporting Blake. And they're including Sisterhood of the

00:23:35.560 Traveling Pants, a simple favor, director Paul Feig, and Amber Heard. I mean, Hollywood wasn't really

00:23:43.620 standing in line to support Blake. And the reason for that is because most of them knew about her bad

00:23:49.900 reputation. Most of them knew about her reputation. And I'm guessing a lot of people also knew about

00:23:56.180 Ryan's reputation. And that's why no one jumped on this. That's why no one wanted to support her.

00:24:02.420 Anyways, it says here, as Blake Lively's castmate and friend, I voice my support as she takes action

00:24:08.640 against those reported to have planned and carried out an attack on her reputation. Slates,

00:24:14.820 Jenny Slates said in a statement obtained by today.com. Okay. She didn't say to the Hollywood

00:24:20.620 reporter. It continues. Blake is a leader, definitely a leader, loyal friend, and a trusted source of

00:24:28.420 emotional support for me. And so many, you know, and love her. Well, not that many, because then more

00:24:34.680 people would come out and support her. And just because she's an emotional support for Jenny Slate,

00:24:39.240 because she wanted her support, doesn't mean that Justin Baldoni is guilty of all these terrible

00:24:44.960 things that they're accusing him of. And Jenny Slate says, what has been revealed about the attack on

00:24:50.560 Blake is terribly dark, disturbing, and wholly threatening. What has been revealed about the attack

00:24:57.960 attack on Blake? What is that actually? What has been revealed? What have you seen of evidence?

00:25:05.160 I commend my friend. I admire her bravery and I stand by her side, Jenny says. Interesting. I remember the

00:25:13.600 first time I read that article in the New York Times, I was thinking, why isn't there an interview

00:25:18.640 with Blake in here? Why isn't she quoted? If she's standing up for all women, why isn't she saying

00:25:25.960 something about it? The only thing they said was a statement that was probably made by her attorney

00:25:32.420 and her publicist. So that's Blake's voice. It wasn't even her own voice. We also, of course,

00:25:38.560 know that WME, the talent agency, fired Justin Baldoni the same day as that article came out. And we know

00:25:46.780 that Ryan Reynolds was the one pushing for that. He pushed for that for about four months before they

00:25:52.880 actually did it. And they didn't want to do it before the New York Times published this article,

00:26:00.060 obviously, because then they could, of course, say that, oh, we just reacted to this article and

00:26:04.860 that's why we fired him. It's not that Ryan Reynolds was terrorizing us and sending us threatening

00:26:10.140 messages. No, no, no, no. That's not why we fired him. It was because of this and all the evidence that

00:26:16.100 we've seen in this article. And, you know, his co-host Liz Plank from the podcast Man Enough,

00:26:22.780 she also threw him under the bus as the first opportunity. And we know we've seen from text

00:26:27.760 messages and emails with both Ryan and Blake that she was informed throughout this entire time. So we

00:26:35.160 know that that was also planned. So I would love to have a look at the Excel sheet that Ryan Reynolds

00:26:40.540 made for all these people that they wanted to get involved in trashing Justin on top of that article

00:26:47.480 to just pile onto all of this, because I am sure that they had several meetings about how to reach

00:26:54.540 out to people to tell them what was coming and how they should react. Zero pressure, as Ryan Reynolds

00:27:02.100 and Blake Lively always starts their emails or texts with. Zero pressure, just do this one thing for me.

00:27:08.840 Well, now it's backfired and all these people should be ashamed of themselves.

00:27:14.720 Anyways, let's end this episode with a fun video that someone sent me. Thank you so much.

00:27:20.660 This is Patrick Stewart, whom I love. I've interviewed him a few times. He is just such a lovely man.

00:27:28.180 And he was on the Graham Norton Show. I love Graham Norton. He is the best at bringing out the best in

00:27:33.500 people. To me, he's my favorite talk show host of all time. Anyways, he got Patrick Stewart on his show

00:27:40.080 and Hugh Jackman was sitting next to him. And guess what Patrick Stewart told the world openly on a TV show?

00:27:49.480 And of course, being circumcised, I said,

00:27:51.760 They were chatting. They're married. They're married. They were allowed.

00:27:58.400 And she said,

00:28:00.080 You're not circumcised.

00:28:02.520 I said,

00:28:03.680 What do you mean? You've only known me a few,

00:28:05.660 all my life. I remember my mother telling me why, because it was fashionable at the time.

00:28:10.820 I was seeing my doctor for my annual physical. Of course. So, uh, while he was down there,

00:28:16.740 I said,

00:28:19.800 Excuse me,

00:28:20.800 Oh, by the way, I am circumcised, aren't I? Because she says I'm not. And he goes,

00:28:28.840 Not.

00:28:31.960 So, Hugh Jackman was laughing and being embarrassed on behalf of Patrick Stewart and this story.

00:28:41.140 As you know, when Justin told Blake and Ryan and all the other people that was around in that

00:28:47.220 situation that he was circumcised because they did speak about that because she was about to have a

00:28:52.660 baby, she was mortified by it. She was shocked and speechless, as she said in her deposition that

00:28:59.980 she was so taken aback by that information that she didn't know what to do with herself.

00:29:04.980 And here we have Patrick Stewart sitting in front of Ryan's BFF on The Graham Norton Show

00:29:10.680 talking about his private parts. Can you imagine if Blake Lively was sitting there in the couch with

00:29:16.780 them? Oh my gosh, she would sue everyone for SH. Anyways, that's it for me, you guys. I hope you

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - March 11, 2026

Taylor's ROLE is EVEN WORSE !!!

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