Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - They NEVER expected THIS !!

00:00:00.000 So how is Blake going to explain the alleged smear campaign

00:00:04.040 that also happened to her co-stars? Were they also bots?

00:00:12.960 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Tjersti Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and

00:00:17.440 your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. If you

00:00:24.360 missed my episode that I published yesterday with Magnus, I will leave a link below. We

00:00:29.600 spoke about Liza Minnelli's new scandalous book that's being released this week. I love when

00:00:35.960 icons come out with these tell-all books and this is no exception. And if you missed the big

00:00:41.840 news before the weekend, I will go through that a little bit more in this episode. As I reported

00:00:47.360 on Friday, Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties are intending to appeal their lawsuit against

00:00:53.940 Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, her publicist Leslie Sloan and the New York Times. This means that

00:01:02.660 this feud is far from over even after Blake Lively's case goes to trial. Also, Ryan Reynolds won an award

00:01:10.580 this weekend on Saturday. It was the Producer's Guilt of America award and he won an award for the movie

00:01:16.740 he produced about John Candy and that he traveled around with for like four months. I've never seen

00:01:23.780 anyone promote a documentary like this, but for some reason he didn't show up at the award show.

00:01:29.620 I wonder why. Maybe he's trying to stay out of the public eye right now, especially after the news broke

00:01:35.700 that Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties are planning to appeal. Also, we have to talk about Jim Carrey's face,

00:01:43.220 because the conspiracy theories have been going crazy this weekend. Everyone is shocked by his new

00:01:49.620 appearance when he showed up in Paris to receive an honorary award called the César or the César,

00:01:56.180 or I don't know how you say that in French. But anyways, his face looked very, very different and he also

00:02:01.700 acted very different and there are theories out there now saying that this is a clone. Anyways, talking

00:02:08.100 about viral moments, after I re-watched the video that Megan Thewey from the New York Times made about

00:02:15.780 a year ago that supported the article that they published, We Can Bury Anyone, inside a Hollywood

00:02:22.260 smear machine where they claimed that Blake Lively had been S-aged and that there was a retaliation

00:02:29.460 campaign against her coordinated by Justin Baldoni and his team. Anyways, this made me think,

00:02:36.580 does Blake Lively also believe that there is a smear campaign or there was a smear campaign against

00:02:43.140 her co-stars? How can they explain with these theories that her co-stars experienced just as much

00:02:51.780 backlash as she did when they promoted the movie and still are? Their comment sections blew up as well

00:03:00.900 and people were going after them? Is Blake Lively saying that the smear campaign against them was

00:03:08.100 organic? Because if the ones that were commenting on Blake Lively's social media or planting Reddit

00:03:15.860 posts or TikTok videos or whatever, if all of those were bots, then were all these bots the same bots

00:03:22.900 that were also hired to smear her co-stars because her co-stars are still being smeared. 1.00

00:03:31.460 I was talking about this video with Jenny Slate going on Seth Meyers the other day. She was on his show.

00:03:38.260 She talked about why she doesn't like going to theaters because she gets so turned on if there's a young 1.00

00:03:43.940 hot man on stage and people were reacting to that obviously because she said that she was so bothered and

00:03:50.260 flustered and she thought it was so inappropriate when Justin Baldoni called her pants sexy when they

00:03:55.620 shot It Ends With Us. And now I was looking at that comment section and the comments go on and on and on

00:04:04.580 about how Jenny Slate is a hypocrite and how she supported Blake and a lot of criticism in general. I could 0.94

00:04:11.940 not find one single positive comment on that Seth Meyers video and I find that particularly

00:04:20.180 interesting in regards to this smear campaign because how can Blake Lively explain this backlash on

00:04:28.900 Jenny Slate if it's not organic unless she believes that the Wayfair parties are still spending a ton of

00:04:37.220 money on this alleged smear campaign to smear her and her colleagues. Yeah, I want to know how Blake

00:04:45.940 Lively's attorneys are planning to explain why this happened to everyone that supported Blake and not

00:04:54.180 solely to Blake herself. Also, I was checking out the producer's Instagram, Alex Sachs. I spoke about

00:05:00.260 her a lot of times. She's also one of the people who came out and kind of supported Blake, but then

00:05:05.700 she kind of trashes her in messages as well. But I noticed one thing in particular and that is,

00:05:12.900 of course, she has turned off her comment section as well. But I noticed that when she was promoting 0.77

00:05:18.340 It Ends With Us on her social media, she did not post a picture of Justin Baldoni from the premiere.

00:05:25.620 She posted a photo of all the other people involved, all the actors and Colleen Hoover. So why did she

00:05:32.020 leave out Justin Baldoni unless Blake Lively told her to do that? Or if she did it purposely and it was

00:05:42.500 her idea, then she's helping to plant a seed that there was a friction on this set, which again fuels

00:05:51.780 the public to speculate why Justin Baldoni wasn't there with the rest of the cast. It's interesting to me

00:05:58.900 reading all these claims from Blake and from her supporters saying that this was a coordinated

00:06:05.060 smear campaign. When things like this proves the opposite, it proves that they actually wanted

00:06:11.540 people to speculate why Justin Baldoni wasn't there. And they wanted this narrative to come out

00:06:18.500 that Blake Lively was a victim. By the way, Alex Sachs just finished doing another movie with Jenny Slates,

00:06:25.940 who's also, as I just said, receiving a lot of backlash. It's incredible the snowball effect

00:06:32.740 of these lawsuits that is harming everyone that supported Blake Lively originally. I don't know

00:06:39.380 if they support her anymore. I don't know if she spoke to Jenny Slate after all of this have happened.

00:06:44.340 I don't know if she has any contact with Alex Sachs or Brandon Sklenor or anyone else. Anyways,

00:06:50.980 let's get back to what happened on Friday when the Wayfair parties filed a letter to the judge

00:06:55.620 saying, hey, we are intending to appeal this case. You should not let New York Times off the hook

00:07:03.060 already because they might be dragged into this again after our appeal. And then that's just a

00:07:10.180 waste of resources for the court system. As you know, it's really hard to win a case against a media

00:07:16.740 outlet here in the US. There is something called an anti-slap law. And it's really hard for someone to

00:07:23.940 prove that the media outlet actually knew the truth and they decided to print a lie and they

00:07:31.540 had a malicious intent. So I don't know what's gonna happen here. But the big news here is obviously

00:07:37.220 that they are planning to appeal this case against Blake, against Ryan, against Leslie Sloan and against

00:07:42.260 the New York Times. Meaning that all of these people are gonna have to deal with this legal feud for

00:07:47.540 a lot longer. This whole thing made me look at that video again that Megan Thewey did on behalf of the 0.98

00:07:53.860 New York Times when they released that article. They are mentioning this video several times in this

00:08:01.060 letter to the judge and it made me go back and look at it again. And I was pretty shocked when I heard

00:08:06.660 the words that Megan Thewey used to explain what really happened here. Private text messages and other

00:08:15.540 documents that we've obtained reveal what really happened. A campaign to tarnish lively. The private

00:08:22.980 text messages and documents that we have obtained reveal what really happened. She claimed that they

00:08:31.620 know what really happened without doing any investigation into this. All they had were these

00:08:37.140 text messages that they cherry-picked and you can see from this video as well they highlight little words

00:08:42.660 here and there to make it seem like something horrific was happening behind the scenes. It's so shameful.

00:08:49.780 After she said that we know what really happened she said what that really was which was a campaign

00:08:54.980 to tarnish lively after she alleged Justin and Jamie had engaged in misconduct. She forgot to mention that

00:09:01.620 there is no evidence at this point or there were no evidence that she had seen at that point

00:09:08.500 that proved that that actually had happened. She's putting this in a way that this is what really

00:09:14.580 happened because I am telling you this is what happened. We have decided on the truth without doing

00:09:20.340 any investigation. And then this part which is one of my favorites. They also agreed in writing not to

00:09:26.900 retaliate against her but as the release of the movie approached they hired a crisis PR manager who

00:09:33.860 orchestrated a smear campaign against lively. Yeah she said that they agreed not to retaliate but then

00:09:39.780 they decided to do that as the movie premiere approach. This is their big problem because what

00:09:46.420 is the intent behind this? They're saying that all because Justin and Jamie Heath or the Wayfair parties

00:09:53.220 wanted revenge on Blake for speaking up but there is absolutely no logic behind this. I've said this so

00:10:00.180 many times but I'm going to repeat it again. What is the point? What would be the point for them to

00:10:05.380 wait until this moment when their movie that they put so much money, sweat, tears and blood into and wait

00:10:13.300 until this moment to retaliate against her so that they would risk that they move that their movie would

00:10:20.180 tag? It's so bonkers. She says this as fact that they hired a pre-PR crisis team tag who orchestrated a

00:10:31.060 smear campaign against lively. They are claiming that that is true and they have zero evidence of that.

00:10:39.140 Interestingly enough I remember she went on the New York Times podcast after this a couple of weeks after

00:10:45.140 to defend the reporting to themselves I guess and then she kept using the word allegedly. So she added

00:10:54.260 allegedly to all these things. The smear campaign was then allegedly and then the SH was allegedly but

00:11:00.740 in this video she claims this as fact. And she's also saying here that Baldoni wanted more. Nathan came

00:11:09.140 up with a document spelling out her plans but Baldoni wanted more. A publicist who had already been

00:11:15.700 working with Baldoni wrote to Nathan, he wants to feel like she can be buried. You know we can bury

00:11:21.860 anyone, Nathan wrote, but I can't write that to him. Saying that he wasn't satisfied with whatever they

00:11:29.220 did to bury Blake Lively and he wanted more. Where does that come from? I have never seen any communication

00:11:37.540 pointing to anything that Justin Baldoni wants to harm Blake Lively. There is no such evidence.

00:11:43.700 She reads the text of course we can bury anyone and then she's saying oh we can't show this to him of

00:11:49.780 course. Which means that even if that was a plan then Justin wouldn't approve it because he never

00:11:56.580 wanted to smear Blake. We've seen so many text messages now, we've seen all the evidence Blake has,

00:12:02.660 we've seen all the evidence Justin has, and we have not yet seen any text messages or emails,

00:12:10.500 we've never heard any phone calls where Justin says please plant something negative about Blake.

00:12:16.900 It does not exist. And in Blake's own deposition she could not point to one article that she thought

00:12:24.100 that they had planted or one article that said anything untrue about her. She also says here,

00:12:30.900 which this was really mind-blowing to me as well because she also says here that Melissa Nathan,

00:12:36.660 that there's proof that she got claims against Baldoni removed from articles and she mentions the

00:12:43.140 SH allegations against him from a text that came from Melissa and she's saying that he's so lucky that

00:12:50.020 this didn't come out or whatever. And that might be true, but the thing is what they're alleging is not

00:12:56.980 true. So the fact that she got things removed, if that happened, we don't know that. I haven't seen

00:13:02.100 any evidence of that. If she got things removed from articles that Leslie Sloan obviously planted 0.73

00:13:09.060 to paint Justin in a bad light and to make him look like he SH Blake, then if that happened, so what?

00:13:17.860 Of course he didn't want that out there because it wasn't true. And now that we've seen the text

00:13:22.340 messages from Leslie Sloan to New York Post to Daily Mail to People Magazine to Us Weekly and how she

00:13:30.820 terrorized and manipulated journalists into writing stories that would favor Blake. And we have texts

00:13:39.380 showing that she got quotes and statements from the Wayfair party removed from articles. So everything

00:13:48.340 everything that Megan Thewey is claiming happened to Blake actually happened to Justin. Funny enough,

00:13:55.940 she says that it's impossible to know how much they planted and how much of it was originating

00:14:02.100 organically. Whatever the case, they seized on it and amplified it. She's excusing their reporting

00:14:08.740 here somehow by saying that no matter what, Baldoni's team amplified posts, which is not illegal. If they

00:14:17.060 amplified posts that were positive towards him, that's not the same as smearing Blake. And she says they

00:14:24.740 can't even prove how much was organic here. So how does any of this make sense then? If you can't prove

00:14:31.300 what's organic and what's not. She also claims that some online observers were critical towards Blake and

00:14:38.660 called her promotion of it ends with those tone deaf. Some online observers. It's also interesting here that

00:14:45.300 she mentions that Sony told Blake Lively to do this tone deaf promotion and focus on the positive

00:14:52.580 message of the movie. She forgets to mention that Blake Lively also had a PGA mark for this movie,

00:15:00.820 that she was the producer of the movie, meaning that she had the power also over the marketing. And

00:15:08.260 Ryan Reynolds, her husband, produced a lot of the promotional content for this movie as well.

00:15:16.020 And she forgets to mention these text messages now that we've seen between Sony employees when

00:15:20.660 they're talking about how tone deaf she is and how she's a terrorist and how she should apologize to 1.00

00:15:28.260 victims and to the reporter, which I think maybe it was me. But even Sony told her to do these things and

00:15:35.380 we have seen no evidence so far of Blake Lively not being able to decide what she wants to say

00:15:42.820 in interviews. Even if Sony suggested wear your florals and bring your friends, whatever,

00:15:49.620 Blake Lively didn't have to do that. That's her decision. She was a producer of this movie. As we

00:15:55.780 could read from those letters she sent to PGA, the Producers Guild of America, Blake Lively had control

00:16:03.060 over everything in this movie. Megan also suggests that the backlash that Blake received was very

00:16:09.060 unusual and that's why it was likely manipulated. But she does not mention, obviously, that all her

00:16:16.580 co-stars received the same backlash as Blake. And here comes my favorite part of this video by Megan

00:16:25.780 Stewie. Drum roll. Listen to this. The shift in online sentiment was unusual enough that a digital

00:16:36.020 marketing consultant produced a report that August that concluded that Lively was being subjected to

00:16:42.900 a targeted multi-channel online attack. Yes, the shift in online sentiment was so remarkable that a

00:16:50.580 digital marketing consultant produced a report. What consultant produced this report? What company

00:16:57.780 produced this report? Who told this company to produce this report? Yes, who hired them? On what

00:17:04.980 basis? She's not even mentioning the name of this company who did this report. And this report, of course,

00:17:12.740 concluded that this was a coordinated online attack on Blake Lively. It's so embarrassing,

00:17:19.780 especially now one year later when we know all the facts or a lot more of the facts of this case,

00:17:25.780 to hear New York Times defend their reporting like this. They have no proof of what Blake Lively told

00:17:32.980 them and still they reported all of this as facts. Anyways, enough of that. Let's get into Jim Carrey's

00:17:40.100 new face. I have to say I was also a little bit shocked when I saw the video of him. Not so much about

00:17:45.620 the face because I feel like we're used to people popping up with new faces all the time these days.

00:17:50.900 Maybe more the women than the men in Hollywood. But when I saw his face, I was like, whoo, okay,

00:17:55.700 you did something here. You lifted a little bit here. You put a lot of fillers in there and maybe

00:18:00.340 a little Botox and now your face looks very different. But when I heard the interview with

00:18:05.700 him, I was like, oh, that is really weird. The way he was so humbled and so grateful and

00:18:11.700 it was a completely new tone. And I was like, oh, it reminded me of that video I saw when he was

00:18:17.940 interviewed on the red carpet by E! News and Kat Sadler, I think her name is, and she was asking him

00:18:24.100 what he was doing at Fashion Week and he said this. There's no meaning to any of this. So I wanted to

00:18:30.660 find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join and here I am.

00:18:37.140 They're celebrating icons inside. Celebrating icons. Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming,

00:18:44.340 you know, possibility that we could come up with. It's like icons. What do you, do you believe in

00:18:49.700 icons? I don't believe in personalities. I don't believe that you exist. And then when he received

00:18:54.660 this award in France, he said this. I felt a lot of love and I felt a lot of appreciation that I tried

00:19:02.740 and what I said was true and I really wanted to recognize my family. I wanted to recognize my dad.

00:19:11.940 Yeah. And there are so many conspiracy theories out there saying that this is a clone and this

00:19:17.460 wasn't really him. I don't know what they think happened to the real Jim Carrey and why he would send

00:19:22.820 a clone or like some impersonator to receive this award. There must be some kind of motivation for

00:19:28.740 that but no one talks about that that I've seen so far online. And someone asked him what's your

00:19:34.420 favorite funny face? I was really is this about someone else? My favorite funny face is the one I'm wearing right now.

00:19:42.180 The one I'm wearing right now is quite funny actually because he does look a little bit funny.

00:19:52.420 But anyways, he said in interviews before that all the characters I played includes Jim Carrey himself.

00:20:01.220 That is also a character that he has played and I think that goes for a lot of celebrities or a lot of actors

00:20:07.700 and comedians. They always play a role when they're out in public and then when you meet them privately

00:20:13.780 they might be very different and I think sometimes that can be hard to maneuver for some people because

00:20:18.980 so many people especially when they meet comedians expect you to be funny all the time. I've interviewed

00:20:24.820 so many comedians asking them about this and they're like oh my god everyone's like oh make me laugh

00:20:30.100 what's your funny face? You know and they're like hey I'm just having dinner with my family I don't

00:20:34.580 want to be funny right now. So I totally get it but I think we can conclude that this is Jim Carrey.

00:20:41.300 He just did some bad surgery but it seems like he's in a good place right now and I'm happy for him

00:20:48.020 if he's happy and there was actually an article in Daily Mail today saying that he has come out now

00:20:54.180 and responded to this. It says here the actor has addressed the claims that it wasn't him at the

00:21:00.180 ceremony with his representative emphatically telling the Daily Mail that Jim did attend the show

00:21:05.940 in person. So yes it was Jim Carrey himself if you were wondering. But anyways let me know what

00:21:12.340 you think about all of this and yes that's it for me today you guys. I hope you enjoyed this episode

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - March 03, 2026

They NEVER expected THIS !!

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