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On today's show, Kersti talks to a Hollywood insider about why Blake Lively is persona non grata in Hollywood. She also talks about the recent ruling against Justin Baldoni's PR company, Tag, and Ryan Reynolds' defense during the It Ends With Us premiere.
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The fact that it has become a term in Hollywood, is she trying to blake lively us?
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Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk, I'm Kersti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
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I got some tea you guys, I just spoke to my insider again, I can't wait to share this with you.
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And according to the director of two of the biggest entertainment shows in Hollywood,
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The internet calls Ryan Reynolds complicit and dilulu after he says he's never been more proud of Blake Lively
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And let's look at what's going on behind the scenes of Blake Lively's Wikipedia page right now.
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And also in this episode, I'll get a little bit more into what that ruling means from yesterday
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when Tag, the crisis PR management company that Justin Baldoni hired to defend himself
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against all the smearing from Blake Lively's side during the It Ends With Us premiere.
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Now that the judge said that your arguments weren't good enough, so your claim will still go to trial,
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let's look into what that actually means for Blake and what it actually means for PR companies in Hollywood.
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Blake really damaged future protections for legitimate concerns on set
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because now anyone bringing claims to producers is going to be met with just a bit of suspicion.
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Is this actress trying to Blake lively us?
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This comes from a person who works in the industry
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who also knows both parties of this case by the way and the fact that it has become a term in
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Hollywood. Is she trying to Blake Livelyus or is he trying to Blake Livelyus? To me that just says
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a lot. The person also said it's terrible because actors do deserve protection and this highlights
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how those protections can be weaponized by powerful people. It's kind of tragic. Yes so true the damage
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that Blake has done to other women who are thinking to actually speak out about a toxic
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work environment or about S.H., it's so tragic. And in the beginning of this lawsuit, she said
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she's doing this on behalf of all women everywhere, all girls, all daughters everywhere. And what she
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has achieved is the exact opposite of that. So many women around afraid to speak, especially
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right now, afraid to share their experiences. And fear is by design. It's what keeps us silent. But
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feel fortunate that I've been able to, and
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it's the women who have had the ability to use their
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I went to move my coffee, and I knocked it over.
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turn off. And he said, the comment section on the Blake Lively interview.
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The person also said, Blake is in full throttle PR mode because her people know
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this is the last month she will ever get any good press. So expect to see a bizarre ramping up of
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pro-Blake and Ryan fluff pieces as they are throwing anything and everything they can at
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the internet. Yes we started to see that already. I've been commenting on it as well. Blake is
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pushing things on her Instagram story and then of course her publicist Leslie Sloan is calling all
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the outlets asking them to pick it up and do a story about it. I think right now it's only e-news
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or e-online that's actually been picking this up and maybe some of the women's magazines like
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Glamour and Harper's Bazaar but apart from that I think most editors right now are saying like
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no thank you and then the person continued to say they are spending millions in anticipation
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of what's about to happen. Meanwhile Justin isn't playing the PR game at all just hoping the truth
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comes out through all of the insane distractions Ryan is creating and then they say the worst thing
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Ryan could have said was that his wife has integrity. Remember that interview he did a few
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days ago? I showed it here on my channel as well when Ryan said, oh, I'm so proud of my wife.
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She has more integrity than anyone I know. And then this person said, she's not right,
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talking about Blake. She's not truthful. She's not humble. She's not self-reflective.
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Everyone in Hollywood just went like, oh, Ryan, no, so much worse. Yeah, so that's how people
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are reacting to Ryan Reynolds right now in Hollywood as well. I think that was a terrible
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move. If you look at Ryan's Instagram right now, it's all about Wrexham. It's all about soccer.
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You can't even tell that he's an actor when you go and look at his page. Also, by the way,
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I've got some more insight info from my other insider who tells me that it is true that Blake
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and Ryan are moving to the UK. So that is not just rumors. Blake wants to have a new start
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in the UK. So let's see when they do that move. It looks like to me, because Ryan keeps posting
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about Wrexham, the soccer team, it looks to me, it looks like to me that he's in the UK all the
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time. Who knows? Maybe they live completely separate lives right now. As someone pointed
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out as well, when Ryan was talking about Blake in that interview, he was really distancing
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himself from her. He even talked about her in plural using they, them, instead of her or my
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wife. I've never seen anyone with more integrity that they carry with them wherever they go or
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whatever he said, which I also pointed out in the episode I did about that. But it's worth mentioning
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again because it really says a lot about where their relationship is right now. Also, I love
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this headline from She Finds, the internet calls Ryan Reynolds complicit and DeLulu after he says
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he's never been more proud of Blake Lively in viral Sunday Today interview. It says here that
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Blake and Ryan have been repeatedly trolled over how they're handling the uptick surrounding her
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ongoing legal battle against It Ends With Us director and co-star Justin Baldoni and the
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internet is showing no signs of slowing down with both its mockery and its outrage. And it says here
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the couple have also been accused of attempting to shift attention away from the lawsuit
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through carefully timed social media posts, although many people don't seem to be buying it.
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Now he has finally publicly addressed the situation, although judging by the online reaction,
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he may have wished he hadn't. And then they go through the things that he said in that interview
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that he's so proud and no one knows really what's going on, blah, blah, blah. And it also says,
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unsurprisingly the internet was quick to react to the hitman's wife's bodyguards actor's comments
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and then they're quoting some comments saying is the integrity in the room with us asked one
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instagram user please someone explain this man the meaning of integrity agreed a second as a third
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explained seriously i'm wondering if he and his wife even know the meaning of integrity at this
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point yeah i've had that same thought it also says here people have no idea what's really going on
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We know exactly what's going on, and it's not what you're selling.
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Slammed a fourth person, and as a fifth person echoed, you're not fooling anyone.
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I'm sure they're shocked that their star power didn't dazzle.
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And then there's some comments to these stories about comments.
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One is saying, well, at least we know what can kill Deadpool, a mean girl wife.
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and then someone says the new Will Smith. It was interesting that they mentioned Will Smith
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because Magnus and I were talking about that yesterday. It seems like Will Smith is not
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coming back. He has been cancelled for good and I kind of was expecting to see him slowly come back
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but he hasn't and it's been like four years I think now since the slap at the Oscars
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and it just shows that these cancellations can be pretty brutal and it's not that easy to be
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forgiven in Hollywood. Okay so let's look at this article in News Nation saying Blake Lively is
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persona non grata in Hollywood exclusive. So they spoke to Fran Weinstein who's been the director
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of Entertainment Tonight and the insider for over three decades and is also the author of the
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upcoming memoir Tortured Souls and she's interviewed here and she says at the moment I believe that
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Blake is persona non grata. They don't want to go near that fire for a while. The blunt assessment
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comes as Lively prepares for May trial, blah, blah, blah. Weinstein, who interviewed Lively
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and her husband Ryan Reynolds multiple times over the course of her career, says she questions
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whether the lawsuit was the right move to begin with. Yes, I think we all question that at this
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point. I don't know what happened on the set, but I think she made a really unfortunate move by
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bringing this all about it's hard it's a hard line to toe because you've got to believe women
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when they say they were harassed but the evidence does not show that that Lively was harassed and
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then she's saying here that last year I was the first to report that Hollywood agents and industry
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bigwigs were staring clear of the actress as everyone is as everyone is loath to work with
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litigious actress who caused them to go over budgets and then she says everyone can make a
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comeback, but not for a while. Whether Hollywood will be willing to write one for Blake Lively
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remains to be seen. And then she says no one wants to work with her. She cost producers Wayfair and
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Sony millions and blew past budgets with the demands and actions. However, it says here that
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Weinstein stopped short of writing Lively off entirely. I actually don't agree. I don't think
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anyone will be willing to work with Blake in the future. And there's two reasons for that. One is
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because she's so difficult to work with and that she has admitted that she wants to take control
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over everything. And two, who would go and watch a movie with Blake Lively? I think when Another
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Simple Favor premiered last year, people started watching it because they were kind of curious
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about everything because she was so much in the news at the moment. But in the future, she's just
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too risky. Okay, so let's talk about what's happening on Blake Lively's Wikipedia page
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So this is quite funny, actually, because someone sent me a link to Blake's Wikipedia
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page the other day and said, you have to check it out.
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It's so funny because they change up so many things on her site.
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And I put it in my notebook that I was going to talk about it.
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And then when I went back into a Wikipedia page today, it was completely different.
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So the other day when I checked, there was a big segment about the little bump interview.
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And there was also a lot of information about that plantation wedding
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and also a lot of information about the lawsuit that's going on right now.
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What still has changed, though, is the photo of Blake on her Wikipedia page.
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because you can go in and check the latest changes to a Wikipedia page.
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and then you also see the names of the editors who changed it and as you can see from this on
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April 21st alone there were like 14 changes to her Wikipedia page. In April in total there's so
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many changes to her site so the funny thing here is there are people who are there are people from
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Blake's side here trying to change it all the time so it looks flattering for her and then there
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are other people changing it back to the way it was and all it says today about this lawsuit is
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this the filming of it ends with us received substantial media and social media coverage
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several months after the production and release of it ends with us lively filed a complaint
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with the california civil rights department alleging the experienced sh and retaliation
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resulting in a smear campaign from the film's director and co-star justin baldoni that's it
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it doesn't say anything more it doesn't say that he sued her back and all the evidence and the
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lawsuit when it's coming up nothing it's all gone as you know the same thing happened to my wikipedia
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about a year ago it kept changing back and forth all the time and i can see from blake's wikipedia
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that some of the same editors are involved in changing her wikipedia as we're as we're changing
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mind. Yes, so there's definitely stuff going on behind the scenes here. At least they still have
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the plantation wedding in here. It says Lively first met Ryan Reynolds in early 2010 while
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filming Green Lantern, in which they co-starred. They began dating in October 2011 and married on
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September 9th, 2012 at Bonehall Plantation in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, a site historically
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associated with enslaved African-Americans. The venue choice later drew criticism, particularly
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during renewed public discussion of racial justice beginning in 2020. In August of that year, Reynolds
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and Lively publicly apologized and expressed deep regret for choosing the venue. They subsequently
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made a $200,000 donation to NAACP, Legal Defense and Educational Fund. They have four children,
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blah blah blah what an amazing donation from someone that's worth 400 million dollars according
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to the internet so ryan reynolds gave 200 000 and the fact that they only did it because they got
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criticism also says a lot but anyways my point is that is still on her wikipedia page let's see if
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it's there in a week's time the latest change was done at 1 30 p.m yesterday and they changed the
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language regarding the filming of it ends with us to reflect a more neutral tone and added a link
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to the main article regarding lively's lawsuits so that is added by ed history 101 it's him and
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this other guy here called gråberg gråa song who keeps changing things back and forth so ed also
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did another change on april 24th updated her short bio clarify clarified connection to it ends with
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us controversies article. So this person is obviously someone that works for Blake to try
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and make people forget about this lawsuit already. Anyways, let's look into this ruling that happened
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yesterday. I just jumped on to talk about it quickly after I actually had recorded my entire
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episode. So I wasn't really that informed about the details of this ruling. Now I've looked a bit
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more into it. The interesting thing here to me that I don't quite understand is that the judge
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left the door open for both TAG, the crisis management company that helped Justin Baldoni,
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and the Wayfair parties, his production company, to adjust their filings so that they will have
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another chance of getting these two claims tossed out. And as I said yesterday, I listened to
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attorneys saying that, oh, these are going to get tossed as well. This is like a slam dunk.
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You know, it's 90% sure that these claims are not going to make it to court. Well, now the judge
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said, yes, they are going to make it to trial because their arguments are not holding up. So
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now we only know that Tagg's claim has survived. And because the Wayfair parties basically have
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the same arguments, then that means that their claim will also probably stay in most likely.
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So Tagg argued that Blake Lively was not employed by them. So why should California
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housing and employment laws be effective in this case against them? And they're saying that we
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weren't even hired when these incidents that Blake are describing actually happened. As you know,
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right now, this lawsuit is basically about that contract, those 17 points that Blake made Justin
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and Jamie Heath sign. Actually, just Jamie Heath was the only one who signed it. But anyways,
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those 17 points, that's what this is all about now. Because she's saying, because she spoke up
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in these 17 points, that's the reason why they retaliated against her. And TAG, this crisis
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management company said we weren't even involved in that contract we had nothing to do with that
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so how can we be liable for smearing her so tag said they shouldn't be under employment law because
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they were just helping with media strategies and just doing pr and the judge said this isn't about
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hiring firing salary or workplace conditions so it doesn't count and then he said that feeha this
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employment law in california is not that narrow he basically says that it doesn't just protect you
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from being fired or demoted it also protects you from actions that could damage your career
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reputation or future opportunities and that's a big deal in Hollywood because in Hollywood your
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reputation is basically your career. So the judge said basically if you knowingly assist in something
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that could violate the law and you could still be on the hook. But here's the important thing
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the judge isn't saying that TAG is responsible for a smear campaign. He is just saying that
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according to the law, you could be held responsible if there was one. So I'm sure that Blake or her
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team is going to try to spin this somehow in the media right now. They're on the phone with
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everyone saying like, hey, this is another win. But the fact is that no one really reported on
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this in the first place, that both these parties, the Wayfair parties and TAG, were giving the
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opportunity to change things up a little bit. So that basically the story remains the same,
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that she has three claims left and 10 of her other claims were dismissed.
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And what a judge said here is that I can't rule on this
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So this is not great for TAG, obviously, and Wayfarer as well.
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is that a lot of PR firms in Hollywood are freaking out right now
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because they can be held liable if their client
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or if someone else's client that their client is involved with gets any negative press,
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they can be dragged to court for that, being accused of smearing people.
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Even though they never did that, as we know from this situation and this lawsuit,
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they could still be dragged into court and forced to spend millions and millions of dollars to defend themselves.
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Yes, so this could really open the door for more lawsuits.
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And I don't think anyone here is happy about that.
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I just really hope that the judge is allowing those text messages from Blake Lively's publicist,
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Leslie Sloan, that she sent out to Us Weekly, People Magazine, Daily Mail, New York Post,
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threatening them, manipulating them to write stories that would favor Blake. I've read from
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those text messages. She keeps using the C word, by the way, talking about Stephanie Jones, who is
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now one of their allies. It's so funny how people just jump sides. There's no loyalty here. No
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loyalty in Hollywood. But I really hope the jury gets to see those texts because she's asking
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journalists to change titles. And she's asking journalists to remove the responses from Justin
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Baldoni in an article where Blake Lively is accusing him of a toxic environment and saying
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that the entire cast can't stand him. And I think that's really important to show because that also
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proves that Justin had to be out there and defend himself. And that's also the reason why he hired
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tag because this was getting out of hand and he had to save his own reputation as you know there's
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no evidence that blake was ever smeared by anyone and she can't even point to that herself as we as
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we've seen from her deposition she can't point to a single article who printed anything about her
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that wasn't true and if amplifying the truth is the same thing as smearing someone then everyone
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should be sued for a smear campaign the fact that blake's only evidence of a smear campaign is
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basically her own words and actions that backfired on her that just says everything a jury has to
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know all right that's it for me you guys I hope you enjoyed this episode thank you so much for
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