Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - January 13, 2026


WOW !! You wont believe this NEW TWIST in Blake Lively's legal drama


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Why did Taylor Swift never ask the judge to seal her text messages between her and Blake Lively? And why did she allow the rest of the evidence between them to be unsealed? Plus, why is it so important that the entire thing be sealed?

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00:00:22.840 Isn't it interesting that Taylor Swift never asked the judge to seal her text messages?
00:00:30.440 Why is that?
00:00:36.340 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:38.140 I'm Tashli Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller, and your voice of reason in a town veiled on delusion.
00:00:45.540 Okay, I have to admit something.
00:00:47.320 I really like text messages, especially when they get unsealed from the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, legal drama.
00:00:57.340 And we have some new ones.
00:00:58.980 And these are really, really interesting.
00:01:01.420 Because the way it looks to me here, there's one person only who's trying to smear Blake Lively here.
00:01:07.800 And it's not who you think.
00:01:10.000 Yeah, this is getting juicy.
00:01:11.520 See, also Blake Lively filed another desperate attempt today to the judge, way past deadline,
00:01:18.340 asking him again to seal text messages between her and Taylor Swift.
00:01:23.780 The interesting catch here is that Taylor Swift never asked for sealing.
00:01:28.800 She did not ask the judge.
00:01:31.700 She could have done that. 0.95
00:01:32.740 She could have written a letter to the judge as well to say,
00:01:35.280 hey, I don't want my text messages with Blake to be public.
00:01:39.180 But she didn't do that. 1.00
00:01:40.140 Also, a big thank you to everyone who watched my video yesterday.
00:01:43.980 I did do a rant about the Golden Globes and how corrupt they are.
00:01:49.340 And I really appreciate everyone who got engaged in that and who commented on it and who shared it.
00:01:54.680 Because as you know, I'm very passionate about getting the truth out.
00:01:58.700 So today when I was going through all the tabloids,
00:02:01.260 everything is just filled up with Golden Globe stuff.
00:02:05.380 All the viral moments, the moment when Leonardo DiCaprio did some facial expressions to someone,
00:02:13.700 when Timothee Chalamet and Kylie Jenner whispered something to each other.
00:02:18.580 And there's a lip reader already on board saying that there's trouble in their relationship.
00:02:23.580 Amanda Seyfried, who looked very disappointed when she didn't win.
00:02:27.860 And Sean Penn, who lit up a cigarette in the middle of the ballroom.
00:02:31.580 Yeah, the press is having a feast trying to make this show something worth talking about.
00:02:37.940 And if you watched my video yesterday, you know that those trophies are worth nothing.
00:02:43.280 They're all paid for in one way or another.
00:02:45.720 And as I said in that video, I predicted Timothee Chalamet would win for Marty Supreme.
00:02:50.200 And the reason for that is because that movie is produced by 824,
00:02:57.120 a production company that is co-owned by the owner of the Golden Globes.
00:03:03.420 And his partner, Jay Penske, who also owns the Golden Globes,
00:03:08.040 owns all the trade magazines that reported on and did articles on Marty Supreme, his movie.
00:03:15.000 And they did interviews with Timothee Chalamet.
00:03:17.660 They placed ads in these magazines.
00:03:20.740 I wonder if they got a rebate.
00:03:22.780 And surprise, surprise, Timothee Chalamet won the award.
00:03:26.560 Anyways, let's leave Golden Globes forever and get into this legal drama again.
00:03:33.700 So Blake Lively missed the deadline, which was last week,
00:03:36.780 where everyone was supposed to tell the judge what they wanted,
00:03:39.620 continued to seal or what they wanted redacted
00:03:42.640 from the evidence that Justin Baldoni had filed and attached to his motion for summary judgment.
00:03:49.800 But today, Blake was like,
00:03:51.440 Hey, judge, I forgot to add these documents.
00:03:54.080 It seemed so weird to me that she would forget about that.
00:03:57.200 She knew about all these evidence since November,
00:04:00.000 and she couldn't keep her deadline.
00:04:02.740 And she wants three things specifically sealed for your eyes.
00:04:07.100 And that is text messages between her and Taylor Swift.
00:04:12.780 And as I said before, Taylor Swift did not file any motion to seal these text messages.
00:04:19.860 She's basically saying, you know, it's fine with me.
00:04:22.780 Just show them to the world, which is really terrible for Blake,
00:04:26.940 because Blake is the one wanting them sealed here.
00:04:29.620 And what does that tell you?
00:04:30.940 I think it's definitely telling me that Blake Lively's text messages to Taylor
00:04:36.960 are really damaging her own case.
00:04:40.340 And if Taylor doesn't care if the world gets to see her text messages,
00:04:44.400 that also says a lot.
00:04:46.440 But I doubt that the judge would allow this, especially since it's coming so late.
00:04:50.840 And he has already said that we have the right to see these text messages between Blake and Taylor.
00:04:55.940 So now we know, I'm guessing Taylor's text will not be redacted from it.
00:05:01.380 So we will see the entire communication between the two of them.
00:05:05.540 I can't wait.
00:05:07.340 Also, she won't seal the text messages between Ryan Reynolds and his agent over at WME,
00:05:13.240 because they're probably talking shit about Justin.
00:05:16.440 And Ryan may be pushing his agent to drop Justin from the agency.
00:05:22.940 So of course, they want that sealed.
00:05:25.500 And the third thing they want sealed here, which is quite interesting,
00:05:29.120 is that letter to the producer's guilt of America.
00:05:33.180 You know, Blake really wanted the mark from the producer's guilt,
00:05:37.400 because that will really help her career moving forward.
00:05:41.100 So she was really fighting to get that mark.
00:05:43.960 And she was not hired on this movie to be anything else but an actress.
00:05:49.000 But she wanted to get the producer credit.
00:05:51.280 And she wrote this letter to PGA to get this mark.
00:05:55.740 And she also had to get Wayfair parties and Sony to sign this letter.
00:06:00.960 Something that they were really reluctant to do.
00:06:03.620 We know that from previous communications.
00:06:05.440 The reason why Blake probably wants this sealed is because it shows that she had so much power on this set of It Ends With Us.
00:06:15.780 That she had so much power over everything, over the production of people that got hired,
00:06:21.660 people that got fired.
00:06:23.040 And that looks really bad for her case, because she's pretending that she's a victim here.
00:06:29.580 She's powerless.
00:06:31.100 And that really contradicts what she's claiming in her lawsuit against Justin and the Wayfair parties.
00:06:38.600 So yes, as I said, I don't think any of this is going to be kept sealed.
00:06:42.400 And as I mentioned so many times before, this is the month that we are going to see most of the evidence being unsealed.
00:06:51.120 And we're going to have a feast reading through all of it.
00:06:54.600 Talking about that, there are some more text messages that are very revealing.
00:07:00.560 So as you know, there's not only one lawsuit going on here.
00:07:03.960 There are other parallel lawsuits.
00:07:05.960 And these parallel lawsuits can either help or not help Justin Baldoni.
00:07:10.800 What I just read here is really, really interesting.
00:07:15.060 And it put things in such a different perspective.
00:07:17.480 So just a quick reminder here who all these people are.
00:07:21.040 So Stephanie Jones owns JonesWorks, the big PR company that Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties
00:07:28.220 hired to do the PR for them and for the movie.
00:07:31.720 Jennifer Abel was one of Stephanie Jones' employees.
00:07:35.000 And she was the contact person for Baldoni and the Wayfair parties.
00:07:39.480 When Jennifer Abel wanted to leave Stephanie Jones' company, Stephanie Jones got really annoyed. 1.00
00:07:45.660 And she started working with the enemy.
00:07:47.940 So she contacted Blake Lively and Leslie Sloan and was like,
00:07:51.540 Hey, I think Jennifer Abel has something on her phone that you might be able to use.
00:07:56.820 So then Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively created this sham lawsuit from a shell company called Van Zandt.
00:08:04.460 So they could come up with a subpoena because then Stephanie Jones could legally get hold of her 1.00
00:08:10.820 employee's phone and she took Jennifer Abel's phone. 0.98
00:08:13.740 She never gave it back.
00:08:15.500 She gave it to Blake Lively who gave it to the New York Times.
00:08:18.620 So that's the backstory here.
00:08:20.440 After Blake Lively sued Justin Baldoni,
00:08:23.600 Jennifer Abel also sued Stephanie Jones for taking her phone and all the content in it. 0.97
00:08:30.640 There could actually potentially be criminal charges involved because she stole her private data. 0.93
00:08:37.360 Stephanie Jones also sued Jennifer Abel and all the Wayfair parties as well.
00:08:42.040 So that's the lawsuit that these text messages are attached to now.
00:08:46.960 So Stephanie Jones wanted to amend her lawsuit last week because she found some new evidence. 0.99
00:08:52.680 She found out that Jamie Heath, Justin Baldoni's partner, had recorded her in one instance.
00:08:58.840 And she said, that's illegal, so I want to add him to my lawsuit.
00:09:03.440 Now the Wayfair parties have responded to her and said, you know, you can't just add him now.
00:09:09.760 It's way too late.
00:09:10.940 And by the way, here are some text messages that shows that you were going to the press
00:09:18.220 without even having permission to do so.
00:09:21.000 So Stephanie Jones has said all along here she didn't know what was going on at all.
00:09:25.080 She didn't know that her employee, Jennifer Abel, was talking to the press
00:09:29.080 and smearing Blake behind her back because she wasn't informed about anything.
00:09:35.360 She was just her boss.
00:09:37.000 Well, now it looks very differently because now we've seen some text messages
00:09:43.000 that proves that Stephanie Jones was really the force behind getting things to the press. 1.00
00:09:51.240 And this one message here is very telling.
00:09:56.420 Okay, so this is a conversation between Stephanie Jones, Jamie Heath, Justin's partner, and Jennifer Abel.
00:10:05.160 And they're talking about an article that Daily Mail is preparing.
00:10:09.220 So this was around the premiere of the movie.
00:10:11.920 And the fans had started speculating that there was a feud between Blake and Justin
00:10:17.200 because they hadn't seen them in any photos together from any red carpet
00:10:21.520 and they hadn't done any interviews together.
00:10:24.720 So Daily Mail was preparing a story where they had attached a lot of tweets
00:10:29.680 and other social media posts where people were speculating about this.
00:10:33.660 And they started talking about this here.
00:10:35.820 And Jamie Heath there is saying that,
00:10:38.240 Hold on, guys.
00:10:39.820 Please, no one call Daily Mail right now.
00:10:42.280 Melissa is in the middle of it. 0.98
00:10:44.140 I want to be sure we are all aligned.
00:10:46.180 And then Stephanie Jones responds saying,
00:10:48.880 Oh, sent email that I left word and playing phone tag with her.
00:10:54.220 It was my understanding Melissa was strategy not dealing with the media comes.
00:10:58.600 So she's basically saying that she's trying to call Lillian from Daily Mail back
00:11:04.600 and they've been trying to get hold of each other without any luck.
00:11:08.160 And she's saying Melissa Nathan is not supposed to do anything else
00:11:11.720 but crisis management and strategy.
00:11:14.120 She's not supposed to talk to the press. 0.90
00:11:16.180 That's our responsibility.
00:11:18.560 So then Jamie says, Hold on, everyone.
00:11:20.980 I'm very confused.
00:11:22.780 Why would anyone call anyone without consulting with everyone first?
00:11:27.120 This is not good.
00:11:29.000 No one is to do anything at all without my knowledge first.
00:11:32.600 And then Stephanie Jones says,
00:11:34.620 I acknowledge receipt to Lillian, the Daily Mail reporter,
00:11:38.340 and said I'd contact her like we always do, which is part of our job.
00:11:42.960 No one should be contacting media except Jones Works as we are agency of record.
00:11:48.900 Unsure how Melissa is in the middle of it as we were not private to those discussions with Melissa,
00:11:54.600 although we should be.
00:11:56.200 So we know from before that Stephanie Jones is not a fan of Melissa. 0.99
00:12:01.320 She didn't want her to get involved in anything.
00:12:03.200 She doesn't trust her.
00:12:04.420 And basically this sounds more like a power play to me.
00:12:07.800 It's like don't let Melissa talk to the press.
00:12:10.260 That's our job.
00:12:12.120 And then Jamie responds again and he's saying,
00:12:14.440 I'm hearing from Sony that, quote,
00:12:18.300 someone named Stephanie Jones has responded out to Daily Mail saying that Blake is to blame
00:12:25.460 and now this has escalated it all.
00:12:29.200 We were purposely not responding to anything as to not fuel.
00:12:33.840 This has fueled it.
00:12:35.920 Everyone stand down unless I'm aware of any moves.
00:12:40.680 I'm most interested in that.
00:12:42.840 I'm interested.
00:12:43.700 Oh, I'm not interested in that.
00:12:44.980 He's supposed to say I'm interested only in any strategy being run by me.
00:12:49.800 I need all to understand that.
00:12:52.020 He's just trying again to say don't respond to anything.
00:12:55.780 What's really interesting here, though, is that Sony has already told him that Daily Mail told them
00:13:01.980 that Stephanie Jones had been in touch with Daily Mail and the person who they're saying is Stephanie Jones
00:13:09.520 has said to Daily Mail that Blake is to blame.
00:13:14.140 This, I have to say, is the only time I have seen anyone say anything negative about Blake Lively
00:13:22.700 or any text exchange about what to tell to the press that would be negative to Blake Lively.
00:13:30.280 This is the only time I've seen that.
00:13:32.700 And that is coming from what they're saying here, allegedly, Stephanie Jones.
00:13:38.720 Isn't that interesting?
00:13:40.760 And then Stephanie Jones is denying it.
00:13:42.640 She's saying, I did not even speak to Daily Mail, so I know this isn't true.
00:13:47.680 Please tell me who at Sony said this.
00:13:50.120 That's such a typical behavior from someone that's guilty, that you want to try and blame it on someone else.
00:13:55.620 Who said this?
00:13:56.760 I'm going to go after those people who spread this.
00:13:59.860 Why would Sony make that up?
00:14:02.220 That makes no sense to me why they would make up that Stephanie Jones had said to Daily Mail that Blake is to blame.
00:14:09.380 And then Stephanie says, and we all know I would never, ever say Blake is to blame.
00:14:15.240 I'll contact Sony, comes now, as I know this is not true.
00:14:20.120 And Jamie Heath is saying, don't contact anyone right now.
00:14:23.800 I'm sorry for being direct, but I need to be direct.
00:14:26.940 I don't want any messages with anyone right now.
00:14:29.720 So I'm officially needing that to be understood.
00:14:33.360 And then Stephanie says, to clarify again, I've not spoken to Daily Mail.
00:14:37.880 The above isn't true.
00:14:39.500 She just said earlier in this text exchange that she had played phone tag with Lillian from the Daily Mail.
00:14:46.560 And she left them a message.
00:14:48.920 And then she says something interesting.
00:14:50.540 I also don't believe Danny or Kim at Sony are saying that above.
00:14:54.720 Quote, also has space as if I was just being drafted.
00:14:58.500 I don't quite understand what she's talking about.
00:15:00.520 But she's mentioning two names at Sony that apparently had said that she was the one who contacted or was in touch with Daily Mail.
00:15:09.200 How does she know who those two people are all of a sudden?
00:15:12.720 It's not mentioned.
00:15:14.160 Jamie didn't mention these two people's names.
00:15:16.800 So what I'm guessing here is that she called Daily Mail and said, who at Sony told you or did you tell that I was in touch with you?
00:15:24.940 And then maybe Daily Mail said, hey, it was Kim and Donnie.
00:15:29.020 Because I don't understand how she would know these two names unless that's how it happened.
00:15:33.320 But I don't know.
00:15:34.400 Could be wrong.
00:15:35.400 And then she's saying, I'm not contacting press.
00:15:37.980 But it's concerning if Donnie or Kim are saying I've escalated this as I haven't even touched this.
00:15:44.420 I'm going to contact them.
00:15:46.300 And then, as you know, Jamie just said, don't talk to anyone right now.
00:15:49.520 And then Jamie says again, Stephanie, as your client and the one who pays for the services, I am stating to not contact anyone regarding Wayfair or Sony at this time.
00:16:04.480 If you do after this text, it will be a major problem.
00:16:09.040 This needs to be respected now.
00:16:11.640 So Jamie is really getting upset here.
00:16:14.000 Like, Stephanie Jones, please shut up. 1.00
00:16:16.160 Don't talk to anyone.
00:16:17.340 I've just told you this three times and you keep doing it.
00:16:20.980 Then she says, Jamie, I've not spoken to Daily Mail.
00:16:23.840 I've not spoken to Danny or Kim at Sony.
00:16:26.580 She keeps contradicting herself here.
00:16:28.900 The above is a significant accusation and I find it hard to believe true.
00:16:33.340 I find it hard to believe true.
00:16:35.040 Either it's not true or it is true.
00:16:36.660 Did you speak to Daily Mail or not?
00:16:38.500 It's very simple.
00:16:39.980 My main goal is and has always been to protect Justin.
00:16:42.940 Until I gave those text messages to Blake Lively so she could give it to the New York Times so she could ruin his livelihood and his life and his reputation forever.
00:16:53.220 Yes, protecting Justin has always been the most important thing to Stephanie Jones.
00:16:57.820 Then she continues to say that People Magazine reached out, but we have not responded.
00:17:02.440 Let's get aligned and plan when you land.
00:17:05.260 And then Jamie says, where and when did that come from?
00:17:07.380 And let's not respond at all.
00:17:09.500 He keeps having to say this.
00:17:10.920 Not even acknowledgement of receipts.
00:17:14.340 And Stephanie Jones says, I did not respond.
00:17:16.700 And then she's asking, is Melissa contacting Daily Mail or not?
00:17:20.660 He just said not speaking.
00:17:22.320 He just said that they're not speaking to anyone.
00:17:24.220 This woman is just like. 0.99
00:17:25.880 And then she attaches the article in Daily Mail.
00:17:29.760 So this article in the Daily Mail is saying that, so this article in the Daily Mail is saying, it ends with us fans are convinced there's a huge feud between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
00:17:41.180 Here is why.
00:17:42.860 And then they are attaching a lot of screenshots from social media where people are talking about him not being ever photographed with Blake and not doing press together.
00:17:52.920 And there's no quote in there saying that Blake is to blame.
00:17:56.200 So that quote, they did not use that quote.
00:17:59.940 Why?
00:18:01.020 Because obviously someone who said that told them not to put it in the story.
00:18:06.020 That again, to me, points to Stephanie Jones that she again contacted them and said, hey, don't use my quote here as the source because I'm in trouble.
00:18:16.820 And why did you tell Sony that I was in touch with you?
00:18:20.180 I'm getting in trouble now.
00:18:21.540 I'm never going to talk to you again if you don't listen to me.
00:18:24.060 Whatever was said in that conversation, I don't know.
00:18:26.700 But Daily Mail listened and they did not print any quotes from any sources.
00:18:32.200 They're just saying that they tried to get hold of people in that story.
00:18:35.860 Then there's some conversations about what to tell the press and how to do things off the record.
00:18:40.620 And then Stephanie Jones again continues to say, I didn't communicate with Daily Mail or anyone else for that matter.
00:18:46.160 Did Daily Mail did not tell Sony, I call them, one, because I didn't.
00:18:53.000 And two, because a media outlet would never cite someone like that to another party.
00:18:57.160 That's not how it works.
00:18:59.040 I think that's very telling that she's saying that that would never happen because no one would ever say that.
00:19:04.700 That's up to each journalist to decide.
00:19:06.960 Some journalists are a little more loose than that.
00:19:09.220 And we are talking about the Daily Mail here.
00:19:12.420 So then she's saying that basically this reporter is lying.
00:19:16.240 And then she continues to say, Leslie Sloan may wrongly assume this is coming from Justin's side.
00:19:22.720 But the Daily Mail story is solely about the three social media posts that Henry, which is Justin, his like secret name, sent you this morning.
00:19:31.380 I wasn't aware he had sent you those until Daily Mail inquired hours later.
00:19:36.880 Let's align on comp plans as I need to be in the loop of media communication and plan.
00:19:41.520 She's saying that she needs to be in the loop of all the communication.
00:19:44.980 And then she's saying in her lawsuit she had no idea what was going on.
00:19:48.560 Isn't that funny?
00:19:49.640 Another side note, how we have to remember that Jennifer Abel, who used to be her employee, 1.00
00:19:55.580 stated in her lawsuit that Stephanie Jones should pay for her legal fees 1.00
00:20:00.120 because she is defending herself against something that happened when she was an employee of Stephanie Jones.
00:20:06.360 And all she did was do her job and what she was supposed to do.
00:20:09.620 And also that Stephanie Jones should pay for any damages if Blake Lively wins her lawsuit 0.51
00:20:17.240 because she was an employee at Stephanie Jones.
00:20:20.920 This is so funny.
00:20:22.140 Stephanie Jones is going to lose no matter what happens in this case. 0.99
00:20:26.920 This is what happens when you are a sneak and you go behind other people's backs
00:20:31.520 and you're telling on other people, karma will always catch up with you.
00:20:35.640 And that's what's happening to Stephanie Jones right now. 1.00
00:20:38.780 Then Stephanie Jones keeps like trying to get herself out of the mud here 1.00
00:20:42.980 by trying to blame everyone else and that she didn't talk to anyone and blah, blah, blah.
00:20:49.200 And then Jamie is chiming in here saying,
00:20:52.400 chiming in myself for clarity.
00:20:54.040 I would like no one on our end to contact anyone else.
00:20:58.680 We have all talked.
00:21:00.200 Thank you.
00:21:01.640 And so then they're talking about speaking to Leslie Sloan.
00:21:05.840 And then Jamie is saying,
00:21:07.140 I'm confused right now.
00:21:08.160 No one is to call Leslie Sloan.
00:21:10.240 I don't know how to be any clearer.
00:21:12.220 Why are my words not understood?
00:21:13.980 I want us internally to speak first before anyone represents Wayfarer or Justin.
00:21:19.540 Someone needs to tell me that they hear me.
00:21:21.980 And then Stephanie says,
00:21:23.860 per Jen's above text,
00:21:25.560 she proactively reached out to Leslie and team to smooth things over.
00:21:30.320 So I assumed you approved that.
00:21:32.580 Jen, please email Leslie's team to cancel the call you supposedly had.
00:21:36.660 Also, please note that New York Post sent no inquiries to you or our team last week
00:21:41.720 or this week regarding Justin.
00:21:44.340 So I feel like she's trying to throw Jennifer Abel under the bus here a little bit, 1.00
00:21:48.060 saying that Jennifer Abel is the one who said that she was going to talk to Leslie Sloan.
00:21:51.700 So this also proves that Leslie Sloan, Blake Lively's publicist,
00:21:56.380 was in regular contact with Justin Baldoni's publicist here.
00:22:00.540 It's not like anyone was surprised about what went on
00:22:03.380 and who was talking to the press and who wasn't talking to the press.
00:22:06.540 They all knew about what was going on the entire time here.
00:22:10.320 And then again, Jamie Heath asked Stephanie Jones not to respond to everyone.
00:22:14.500 He probably said that 10 times during this exchange.
00:22:17.340 And Stephanie Jones just keep talking and she's really annoying, I have to be honest. 1.00
00:22:23.080 Yeah, this whole thing is a big mess right now.
00:22:26.240 And I'm hoping that they have some text messages or communication with the Daily Mail here
00:22:32.680 that can prove who spoke to them about this and who planted that Blake is to blame.
00:22:40.400 Because that is a major.
00:22:43.160 And if that was Stephanie Jones and it seems like here everything is pointing to her,
00:22:49.400 she's in big trouble.
00:22:51.140 Anyways, I hope you enjoyed this episode.
00:22:53.360 Thank you so much for watching.
00:22:55.080 And as you know, I'll keep on top of everything happening in this case.
00:22:58.660 I know you're so invested in it as well.
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