On this episode of the Fresh Fit Podcast, we have a special guest, Amrath, who is a streamer, podcaster, and all-around hustler. We talk about how he got started in streaming, how he makes a living on Only Fans, and what he does to make money.
00:04:12.000Well, I started off on Patreon first for several years, and then I guess around COVID, I went to OnlyFans because everyone was going there after...
00:04:21.000Patreon's PayPal debacle where PayPal wasn't processing a lot of payments anymore for NSFW content, essentially.
00:07:49.000What you have to do is you have to have a following on other social media platforms and basically Now it's harder because you can't directly push OnlyFans.
00:07:57.000A lot of times it'll get you banned or shadow banned, whatever.
00:07:59.000But you have to make it obvious that you are an e-girl, basically.
00:08:04.000So it'll be like, oh, link in bio, or like, oh, on my off, or whatever it is.
00:08:07.000You have to kind of be discreet about it.
00:08:10.000So that's the only way you can get people to join is if you advertise on other platforms.
00:08:14.000What'd you do before OnlyFans and Patreon?
00:08:53.000Because growing up, I never wanted kids, really, because I grew up in a lower middle class family and was told no a lot for the stuff I wanted.
00:09:00.000And so I didn't want to ever have to do that to a kid, like have to tell them no for financial reasons.
00:09:04.000So I never thought that I would get to this point.
00:09:06.000I thought I would probably stay within my social economic class, marry someone middle class.
00:09:10.000And it's kind of a struggle to raise kids intentionally.
00:09:13.000You have no way in hell you're going to marry someone middle class looking like her.
00:12:45.000All right, so listen, I'm all for women doing their thing, having fun, making money, but when it comes to actually making money and being successful, is dating harder for you nowadays?
00:13:11.000Yeah, I would say it's hard for anybody in my position, whether you're male or female, because you don't know who's really wanting to connect with you on an emotional level and who's just seeing clout and dollar signs.
00:13:21.000I'm sure you guys struggle with that too.
00:13:24.000Like, women actually giving a shit and not just being there to use you.
00:13:26.000Do you still, like, have emotions for these guys?
00:14:37.000Well, I was at a convention doing a meet-and-greet, and one guy came up to me, and he asked if he could have a hug, and I was just like, sure, whatever.
00:18:30.000No, I don't think that's the reason why.
00:18:33.000I think it's the fact that Twitch, for a while there, it actually was just a gaming platform.
00:18:39.000They would ban you if you didn't game.
00:18:41.000They started changing that later on, but I think a lot of that culture is still built in.
00:18:45.000And so when they started seeing women taking advantage of that, because women have been taking advantage of Twitch for a long time, even when it was only gaming, what they would do is they would have the game as small as possible, and then they would be...
00:19:06.000And guys would be like, well, this isn't fair.
00:19:09.000Obviously, they're going to go to the World of Warcraft stream that has the woman doing a spread eagle on the desk, which is valid.
00:19:14.000Yeah, I'd be mad, too, if I was a gamer.
00:19:16.000So I think it's just that culture, even though that's not a rule anymore, that you can't do anything non-gaming, that still has that built-in salty vibe.
00:21:34.000So, how do you deal with haters and still stream and still do what you got to do, even though it's constantly you're being on stream, sometimes in person?
00:21:53.000You know, it's like every time you do something good, it doesn't go nearly as viral as when you say something kind of like, oh, edgy, that some people might hate you for.
00:23:49.000I can't remember if I've collabed with her directly or not.
00:23:51.000I have collabed with offline TV in general so it's like I guess by association but I haven't been called up Pokemon like, hey girl!
00:23:59.000Who's your best friend in the industry you would say?
00:24:02.000That kind of depends on the year because I'm probably one of the more consistent ones and there's so many streamers that aren't consistent so like at one point I guess I was in Austin a lot hanging out with like OTK members, Mizkiff and Co.
00:24:21.000Other times, there's been some other cosplay e-girls.
00:24:24.000I've had, like, Peach Jars over several times.
00:24:54.000I'm sure there are other people on OnlyFans that have made millions of dollars, but you can't really, like, see them as competition because it's not like a livestream platform where it's like you are in a directory together.
00:25:23.000There's a lot of pettiness out there, for sure.
00:25:25.000But I only think that being competitive with the OF girls makes sense because a lot of girls hide the amount of followers they have, hide the amount of money that they're earning.
00:26:21.000If there's any girl thirst trapping and she doesn't have an OF, I don't know why she's bothering risking getting shadow banned by the algorithm.
00:26:28.000I feel like every girl who posts lingerie or bikini pics has some form of paywalled content, typically.
00:26:35.000If they don't and they're just a mother actress, maybe that's different.
00:26:38.000Because of your career, do you even have relationships?
00:26:43.000It's really hard to maintain relationships, even with just friends.
00:26:46.000Like, I can't even count on, like, I don't even have ten friends.
00:26:50.000Like, my friends are pretty, like, who I hang out with in person are pretty much my staff.
00:26:55.000And my friends at the barn that I board at my horses, you know?
00:26:59.000Well, if you actually pay them, are they actually your friends?
00:29:45.000I think skin color does not matter, literally.
00:29:47.000How come you've never been with a black guy, then?
00:29:49.000I think it just hasn't, you know, I haven't met one that I've felt like is compatible with me personality-wise or attracted to, but I also don't put myself out there, right?
00:29:56.000It's not like I'm trying a lot of them and I'm like, oh, it didn't work out.
00:32:35.000The down payment is one mil, and then there's a certain clause that allowed you to deduct the total amount of the buildings from your income.
00:32:48.000And so then the amount that you're saving in taxes is actually more than the down payment.
00:32:53.000So they're actually paying me money, essentially.
00:34:03.000The AI girls look perfect, and they can look like whatever you want.
00:34:05.000Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the day when AI becomes so realistic that it can replicate actual people, like us sitting here, not just cartoons.
00:34:15.000But what if a OnlyFans girl made an AI version of herself, and she was getting older?
00:34:43.000Months ago, he spoke about the metaverse and how guys are going to go to the metaverse with goggles on, basically, to find their dream girl, go to either a hub or a restaurant, whatever, find the girl that they like, and create her virtually, and then master it virtually as well.
00:35:34.000You know, the older I get and the more experienced I get, I realize that...
00:35:39.000Guys do that with girls who don't have OnlyFans, too.
00:35:41.000If you see, like, a hot girl, I've seen people take pictures, you know, before I was in a huge streamer while I'm IRL streaming because I have a selfie mode.
00:35:48.000You don't realize how many guys just take pictures of you from behind in public.
00:38:29.000I know a lot of women have their delusions or whatever, but for me at this point, I think I'm actually less picky than I used to be because I don't need someone to support me on their income.
00:41:20.000Well, I think that a lot of the things people say when they make the argument is like, oh, how can you do that to your kid because he's going to be so embarrassed and get bullied, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:29.000But you know how many kids who get bullied and are embarrassed with their parents and their parents are just hardworking citizens who don't do any porn or any kind of social media at all?
00:41:38.000Like, if you are trying to control for your kid's embarrassment, good luck.
00:41:41.000There's a difference between a garbage man and someone who's doing porn, though.
00:41:44.000I mean, sure, the income is one of them, right?
00:43:52.000Typically can get guys or are always going to be guys who want to fuck them and are willing to commit if they don't have their options or whatever.
00:45:25.000It's not even the nakedness they're paying for.
00:45:27.000They're paying for the woman to just, you know, like, talk to them or degrade them, either one, because they can get the naked stuff for free.
00:45:35.000I can think of one thing that it will sit there and watch for.
00:54:24.000I actually got an email from them, I think around 2017. I was still on Patreon, though, and I didn't know if OnlyFans was going to pop off, so I didn't really give it much thought.
00:56:07.000It was an interesting situation, because my parents got doxxed a few years ago, and people swatted their house.
00:56:13.000And so, like, 10 p.m., my father opens up the door to just a bunch of, like, cops with their guns pointed at him, because, you know, people always report a fake situation.
00:56:23.000And after that, my mom was like, I don't know if this is worth it.
00:56:26.000Like, you know, we're getting swatted, and, like, you've been swatted.
00:56:43.000At that point, when you have that much money, open up a show company and buy the houses through a show and they won't be able to figure out where you are.
00:58:24.000And he had on his stream, too, donation goal, $800 for flight to Houston.
00:58:29.000And so, like, I reported that to the Twitch staff because I'm like, that's unhinged.
00:58:34.000And they took down his account, but he kept making more of them.
00:58:37.000And then he would stream himself walking around Houston once he was here and streamed himself outside my house trying to get into my house.
00:59:58.000Not really, but when it comes down to it, sometimes people born in the second, they tend to be a little bit sensitive.
01:00:04.000If someone says the wrong thing to them, they're going to remember for a long, long time, and then they're going to cook the motherfucker when they have a chance.
01:01:54.000I'm going to take that video and run with it.
01:01:56.000Zero Day says, you are already a millionaire and set for life.
01:02:00.000Why are you still going and not just shut everything down and just stay as a streamer?
01:02:04.000Well, we kind of talked about it earlier, but yeah, I just feel like there's not that much opportunity left for me before AI does take over.
01:02:10.000And so I might as well just milk all that I can while I can because a lot of people, they want little in life.
01:02:17.000Unfortunately, I was cursed with ambition and I like ponies and I like land and I want like thousands of acres.
01:02:49.000I was never that way growing up where I was like, I want more, but I have the opportunity to get more now because of what I've managed to unlock.
01:04:00.000Are they going to lose their businesses?
01:04:02.000What do you think is going to happen next?
01:04:04.000Established brands are definitely going to be the ones who will benefit from.
01:04:08.000AI. Because, like, anyone coming new into the industry, why would people pay you more to represent a product when they can just, like an advertisement company, like, you know, make a random person?
01:04:17.000And even then, they're probably not going to want to choose a random person.
01:04:19.000If you could have The Rock represent your product, AI with The Rock, or generate a random AI person, you're going to choose The Rock, right?
01:04:31.000So I think that it's going to be increasingly harder for new people to come into the public figure space, whether it's content creation or acting.
01:04:39.000We've seen all those AI trailers, and they're pretty realistic sometimes.
01:04:42.000So I think that established people are going to benefit, especially because they don't age, the girls in question.
01:04:48.000And it's kind of going to be too late for a lot of the kids nowadays, sadly, who want to become YouTubers.
01:09:24.000You're basically taking money out of simps, and if you weren't there, and say other women weren't there, and I'm not just blaming you, saying other women didn't have other options, maybe those guys would actually hit on women who are in their own league, have families.
01:09:42.000But if you met some of the guys I've met who are spending most of the money, I'm actually doing those women a favor that they would be hitting on.
01:09:52.000But I think most of the guys who are on there and they're not spending crazy amounts of money for, like, fetish content, I think a lot of them still do go out because, like, they're not, like, they're not...
01:10:09.000So I think that in those cases, OnlyFans is just kind of like their backup when they don't feel like going out to the bar and getting rejected that night.
01:10:16.000Because statistically, a lot of guys go out, they shoot their shot, nothing happens, don't get their dick sucked, don't result in anything relationally.
01:10:23.000And so a lot of these guys, they treat OnlyFans kind of like as a strip club where they don't even have to leave home or put pants on.
01:10:55.000This is not something that you think that you probably, you know, go to bed and, you know, sometimes and be like, well, when you're not making money, going to bed and stuff like that.
01:11:03.000You know, you have to be thinking, yo, I might go to hell for this.
01:11:18.000But, you know, I was raised Baptist, so we kind of, we have that belief that no matter what you do, as long as you believe Jesus died on the cross for your sins, then, you know, you go to heaven anyways.
01:11:27.000So you can be a rapist, murderer, whatever, as long as you believe in Jesus, you're going.
01:11:31.000Well, I feel like people who believe in Jesus aren't doing that.
01:11:34.000Well, I would say that's a blackest statement, but you can't willfully be sinning and then think it's going to be okay.