In this episode, we are joined by Andrew Wilson and Gary the Numbers Guy to debate the validity of Christianity and numerology. We also discuss the recent 9/11 plane crash in Washington, D.C. and why you should not fly in the month of January.
00:04:26.000So I guess we'll go right into opening statements.
00:04:28.000We had a discussion before about parameters and everything else like that.
00:04:32.000The way this is going to work, Chad, is we're going to have four minutes of an opening statement where they kind of give their position of where they stand.
00:04:38.000And then after that, we're going to go into timed rounds.
00:04:42.000For the first one or two rounds, assuming everything goes good, it's going to be open dialogue between the two.
00:05:54.000I won't call the prime creator a god, because to me, there's so many false gods, plus, you know, God spelled backwards as dogs, so I'm not going to insult the guy like that.
00:06:05.000We're not going to be discussing the validity if there is a prime creator.
00:06:09.000What we will be discussing is the validity of the system.
00:06:13.000Of Christianity, the validity of the system, Islam, but mainly we're going to focus on Christianity.
00:06:18.000And then we're going to start talking about the practitioners within that system to see if they're actually living up to their so-called virtue.
00:06:27.000Or we're going to start talking about, is there a better system?
00:06:31.000And having said that, you know, let's have the tapes.
00:06:57.000I'm a numerologist astrologer, and the information you hear in this video just could save the life of a loved one or yourself.
00:07:04.000Ever since I started studying numerology right after 9-11, it got me to thinking, is there a pattern to this?
00:07:09.000And what I discovered is absolutely horrifying.
00:07:12.000Whenever it's the 11th, the 29th, or any day that adds up to an 11th, there seems to be a lot of plane crashes in the world.
00:07:19.000Basically, if you're going to get on a plane on the 11th, 29th, or any day that adds up to an 11th, or say when the Okay, cut that video.
00:07:30.000So basically, that was a video from me in 2011. See, unlike most people who pick up grips, I've been doing this for a while because I actually believe in this.
00:08:17.000And yesterday, the first day of the snake, 2025, January 29th, we had a very serious plane accident in Washington, D.C., where over 60 people on an American's airline died in midair in takeoff because they collided.
00:09:27.000Yeah, go whenever you're ready, Andrew.
00:09:29.000Yeah, so when you're talking about religion, and Gary seems to be saying that he's going to come at this from a religious purview, not as an atheist, and he believes in some system which has what he calls a prime mover or prime creator, which isn't a god, which I don't exactly understand.
00:09:45.000So I don't actually understand what the religious purview is that Gary is speaking from.
00:09:51.000So debates, when you're talking about Christianity versus any religion or secularism, it's about worldviews.
00:09:59.000So what you're doing is you're taking epistemology, which is grounding knowledge and foundational knowledge, and you're seeing if it holds up to the scrutiny inside of a worldview.
00:10:09.000In other words, are the descriptors for this knowledge, are they coherent?
00:10:54.000September 4th, October 23rd, November 6th, November 18th, the list goes on and on and on of dates which don't coincide with what Gary is talking about here.
00:11:04.000The truth is, is that if you make a prediction that there's going to be some type of aerial catastrophe, which will revolve around the 11th or the 29th, eventually you will be right.
00:11:17.000There's not, I mean, just as an eventuality, that has to be the case.
00:11:21.000Now note, He claims he made this prediction years ago, and this validates the prediction.
00:11:26.000I actually would counter and say that that prediction is invalidated because he made it years ago.
00:11:31.000Because it's so many years ago, all he had to do was wait over years because eventually, if you say the sky is going to fall on X day, it will.
00:11:41.000If you say some type of deterministic accident will happen on X day.
00:11:47.000Eventually, you will be correct, especially when you're talking about airlines, air traffic control, you know, car accidents, famous people dying, right?
00:11:56.000And he's talking, he's saying, well, 10 years ago, I predicted this.
00:11:58.000Well, no, 10 years ago, you predicted nothing.
00:12:00.000You just said there could be plane crashes, which happened on these dates.
00:12:05.000And you missed all the other dates that plane crashes happen on that aren't these dates, and it took 10 years for one to finally happen on that date.
00:13:47.000I agree with you, but the fact is, if you do a mathematical percentage of the days plane crashes do happen, you're going to see they significantly increase on the 11th and 29th.
00:13:57.000That's why December 29th, we had three plane crashes worldwide, and a couple days ago, we had two, including the one in Washington, D.C. So your whole argument is invalidated, my friend.
00:14:09.000I just gave you more proof right there than it's all of the freaking Bible.
00:14:46.000You said you already, no, no, no, you made the statement, the affirmative statement.
00:14:51.000It is, in fact, the case that most plane, not all plane crashes happen, but the highest percentage of them happen on the 11th and the 29th.
00:15:00.000If that is the case, I await your evidence.
00:15:03.000Oh, again, I didn't come here to do mathematical equations with you.
00:15:07.000So you just came here to make claims that you can't?
00:15:27.000When we pull up plane crashes for 2024, I actually just read you several dates, we can pull up the aviation dates of all plane crashes globally.
00:15:38.000So even if one were to happen on the 29th or the 11th, and all other ones don't happen on that day, then that would assume that the risk is just as possible for those other dates.
00:15:46.000How many plane crashes happened this year, Andrew?
00:15:52.000So what I'm saying to you is that statistically that would mean it's just as likely as any other day that these crashes happened on.
00:15:58.000Now again, I'm willing to concede that you're correct in that on the 11th and 29th, that's when the highest percentage of plane crashes happen.
00:16:10.000I just want you to give me the actual evidence for that.
00:16:13.000I'm not asking for you to move the heaven and earth here.
00:16:17.000I'm not asking you to have the prime creator do anything.
00:16:20.000I'm just asking for the actual evidence, the statistical evidence that proves on the 11th and 29th, that's when most plane crashes will happen.
00:16:27.000Okay, so I'm going to pass this evidence right now.
00:17:16.000We've done statistical analysis just in case people like Andrew come along so we can actually prove our point without actually going back and forth in boring conversation.
00:18:31.000The audience can see it on our end, but I'll give it to you so you can look at it as well.
00:18:34.000And while I send you this, I'll read it out loud.
00:18:37.000Can you make that big for me, Bills, real fast?
00:18:39.000So it goes, fatal aircraft accidents by day.
00:18:41.000This chart analyzes fatal aircraft incidents by the day of the month.
00:18:44.000With the day's numerological energy reduced, the data reveals a striking alignment with Gary Greenberg's insights as 11 energy emerges as a key factor linked to malfunctions and significant events.
00:18:57.000Offering valuable implications for aviation safety and then it shows the month and the days it looks like here.
00:19:05.000So yeah, on the bottom you have day of month and then on the left hand side you can have frequency.
00:19:11.000And then you go there by the day total, so when something adds up to an 11-day in total, you can see that there's a significant amount more plane crashes than all the other days.
00:19:22.000Now, am I saying they only happen on those days?
00:19:24.000What I am saying is there's a significant increase in fatalities when it comes to planes on certain days based off numerology, and here's the evidence.
00:19:34.000And just to be clear, what are those days?
00:19:36.000Those are the 43 fatal accidents that we've had in...
00:19:47.000There's one way to come up to an 11 energy is anything that happens on the 11th or 29th because 2 and 9 is 11. The other day is something that adds up to the day they attacked Afghanistan.
00:19:59.000Afghanistan was attacked, I believe, 10-7-2001.
00:20:03.0001-0-7-0-2-0-0-1 adds up to an 11. So that is the only ways you can come up with 11 energy.
00:20:31.000The total 787 people killed in the combination of these accidents are the worst in history.
00:20:36.000Remember, Gary just got done telling you.
00:20:39.000That these are going to be the days which correspond with the most deadly accidents, and they're not.
00:20:45.0001996, 2000, 2007, 2014. That would be Malaysian flight, TAM54, Alliance Air 7412, and TWA800 for a combined 787. That is actually the most deadly date, sir.
00:21:42.000So, yes, that's exactly what you would do.
00:21:44.000You would say if this was consistently true, that every year this was consistently true.
00:21:48.000If it's consistently true every year, then you are indeed, yes, correct, that on the 11th and 29th, that's when you're going to see the most amount of these accidents happen, if year by year that is the case.
00:22:00.000Not only is it not, but the most deadly days on the 17th, proven by these four flights that I just gave you with a combined death total, 787s, worst in history.
00:22:10.000You've just been proven incorrect, Gary.
00:22:12.000So, again, I said most plane accidents happen on certain days.
00:22:18.000You only showed 2024. Okay, so 2024. But I also went on video two days before the 29th and said, don't find the 29th, and we just had the most horrific plane crash of two.
00:22:31.000The point is, there is something to this, and if you don't actually see something to this, because I've given you statistical analysis, this is a reason for all you people who are listening right now to go out there and do the research.
00:22:43.000Go out there and do the work, and you will see how the validity in this type of work.
00:22:48.000Andrew is a person who doesn't want to believe in this.
00:22:50.000He wants to believe that the Virgin gave birth to Jesus Christ.
00:23:02.000Yeah, but even if I was wrong, let's just say I was completely wrong about the religious belief of the virgin birth and all of the various criticisms you have about Christianity, even assuming that was incorrect, that wouldn't make your system correct.
00:23:23.000So what I did was offer a statistical refutation.
00:23:27.000The foremost deadly air disasters all fell on the 17th, on the 29th or the 11th.
00:23:32.000All of those air disasters combined on the 17th had a grand toll of 787. No four combinations reached that number.
00:23:38.000Therefore, Gary, you are wrong in your analysis.
00:23:41.000The most deadly flights happen there, one.
00:23:44.000And two, you're also wrong in your analysis that year by year, you will find the most amount of these accidents happen on the 11th and 29th, which is why you only gave us a single-year analysis.
00:23:57.000That's when you, what you do is you take your sample and then you apply your sample to the current thing you already believe without giving people a full picture.
00:24:05.000Now, if you were to say, Andrew, going back 15 years or even 10 years, year by year, I can show you that on the 11th and 29th, there's always the most amount of aircraft accidents which happen around these days.
00:24:16.000That would actually be pretty powerful evidence.
00:24:17.000And I would be like, huh, I'd have to take another look at that.
00:24:45.000It's never going to be enough for people like this.
00:24:47.000But these are the same type of people who tell you to believe in the Bible.
00:24:51.000They tell you to believe Jesus Christ is coming back.
00:24:53.000These are the same type of people who offer absolutely no proof that anything they believe in, but they won't accept mathematical proof from you.
00:25:03.000They will always keep pushing further and further and further.
00:25:08.000He doesn't want to have an honest conversation.
00:25:12.000The fact of the matter is, most plane crashes happen on 11th and the 29th, or any day that adds up to an 11th, and Andrew, if you would really like me to do 20-year statistical analysis, I'll pay someone to do it, and if that will be enough evidence for you, tell me right now, on this stream, that will be enough evidence to you if I go back 20 years, because then I didn't go back 50 years, or hell, I didn't go back 100 years, because it's never going to be enough for you.
00:25:39.000You're always going to move the goalposts.
00:25:42.000I gave enough statistical evidence for the people who are watching, at least the ones with the IQ above room temperature, to understand there's something to this.
00:25:49.000Okay, so let me respond to all of this.
00:26:16.000If the claim, and this is the claim Gary made, that on the 11th and 29th, that's when the most amount of plane crashes are going to happen.
00:26:28.000Okay, so if that's the case, then it's perfectly reasonable and acceptable for me to say if that is true, then every single year since the very first airplane was made, you should be able to give me a very simple statistical analysis.
00:28:08.000The thing is, is that if it is the case, are you also saying that those are the most deadly days, meaning the most amount of people died on those days?
00:28:19.000So if that's not the case, then why would we care anyway?
00:28:24.000If the more deadly days are on the days which are not on the 11th and the 29th, wouldn't you want to predict the days with the most amount of fatalities rather than the days with the most amount of crashes?
00:28:34.000Well, you want to talk about maybe one crash happened on the 17th that killed a whole bunch of people, but I'm going to tell you there's been about 10 that happened on the 11th, and maybe the total amount of people died wasn't exactly the same.
00:28:51.000Let's not move anything over the goalposts anywhere.
00:28:53.000That is the whole argument right there.
00:28:55.000Yeah, but I'm giving an inquiry about the argument so that I have clarification.
00:28:59.000Wouldn't it be actually more useful if I could demonstrate that more people died off the day of the 11th and 29th?
00:29:06.000Wouldn't it then be more useful to give people the days in which the most amount of deaths will happen rather than the days in which the least amount of deaths happen?
00:29:13.000That happened this year, so we'll see how the year goes.
00:29:16.000Washington, D.C., you know, RIP. The 35 or 37 souls that actually, I'm sorry, 60, 65 souls that died in a plane crash in Washington, D.C., which is crazy because all of us were just there.
00:29:31.000So, again, but, you know, we know not to fly in the 29th.
00:29:34.000And now you can go back, you think, and demonstrate that on the 11th and 29th of each and every year that those are the days in which the most amount of all aircraft which fly around go down.
00:29:43.000Or any day that adds up to an 11, correct.
00:29:45.000Like I said, this includes all military aircraft.
00:32:24.000Don't pull up 200. So that would include non-commercial airlines, helicopters.
00:32:31.000That would include all aerial aircraft going down, military or otherwise.
00:32:36.000So he doesn't even give us the full data set.
00:32:38.000He doesn't even give us the full 2024 data set.
00:32:41.000There was way more than 43 airplanes that crashed that had fatalities, I guarantee, especially if you incorporate globally all military aircraft, it would have to be the case.
00:32:50.000So since that's true, we don't even have a complete data set there.
00:32:54.000On top of that, even the data set we do have is only for one year, and all it does is affirm a bias that Gary has.
00:33:51.000But this is the same person who will say, believe in Jesus Christ, believe in my Lord and Savior, and he can't even give you an iota of the proof that I just did.
00:36:03.000You would have to do a statistical analysis of such a bold claim of the 11th and 29th of each year by taking all commercial, military, aircraft, everything, combining them over each year and then determining that on these two days is when the most amount of those crashes happen.
00:36:17.000Showing me a chart of 2024 or 43 crashes is just plain lazy and it doesn't prove shit.
00:36:25.000And listen, now that we're going to get to the Christianity portion of this, I want people to understand the evidence I provided was real, but he didn't accept it because it wasn't enough.
00:36:35.000But remember, I'm about to turn this on him.
00:36:38.000And he won't be able to give me an iota, a shred of evidence that Christianity is real, Jesus Christ existed, a virgin gave birth to Jesus.
00:37:26.000And I'm telling you, People who believe like me, look at their right wing, who believe a virgin gave birth to Jesus Christ the same way you look at those crazy lefties who believe, oh, there's more than two genders.
00:37:40.000But real quick, Gary, I just want to know the topic of this.
00:39:27.000The character of nativity narrative provides cause for believing in doctrine because of the Jewish atmosphere of the narratives themselves.
00:39:34.000Most scholars universally believe Jesus Christ existed, was a man.
00:39:39.000I can give you the institutes which believe that Jesus Christ was a person, an actual person who existed.
00:39:47.000This includes biblical scholars, classic historians, New Testament scholars, and Old Testament scholars.
00:39:54.000The rest of the New Testament is silent about doctrine.
00:39:56.000Had this teaching been invented, there might be more reason for writers to touch on it further, to argue for it.
00:40:03.000So the Church universally accepts this doctrine.
00:40:07.000There's complete acceptance without hints of any other kind of explanation for the birth of Jesus, meaning since the foundation of Christianity, this has been the set foundation for it.
00:40:17.000The idea that the eyewitnesses actually were present and that this was a determination made and that there's never been resistance to the foundation of this shows that there's good validity to be had that because this person existed, because there was clearly something special about his birth, and the eyewitnesses at the time are determining that there is something special about this birth and the doctrine canonically has gone on for 2,000 years, not disputing this
00:40:42.000with alternatives, is very powerful evidence, Gary, that this could have happened.
00:41:21.000They never took pen to paper themselves, yet it's universally accepted that these figures existed because when scholars go back through and they run determination text, and we have eyewitness testimony of it from multitudes of different sources and dates, it's reasonable at that and we have eyewitness testimony of it from multitudes of different sources and dates, it's reasonable at that point Okay.
00:41:49.000And they have, you know, books of Bigfoot.
00:41:52.000I mean, based off what you're telling me, all you need is eyewitness people who say, oh, yo, and then they have to write in a book that they were eyewitnesses, and that's enough for you.
00:42:16.000The Bible is the most investigated book in the history of all of mankind.
00:42:20.000There's no book which has been more sold or more studied by more people than this book.
00:42:27.000The thing about your Bigfoot claim that coincides with my claim is that because there was eyewitness testimony and physical evidences which were found, This was an investigated phenomenon.
00:42:39.000People did begin to investigate it because it became credible.
00:42:42.000The second, there was eyewitness testimony and evidences which were provided as to the credibility of the phenomenon.
00:42:48.000That does not mean that Bigfoot existed, of course.
00:42:51.000However, it does lead to evidences towards the investigation for the clarification.
00:43:26.000Well, eyewitnesses who are alive, sir.
00:43:30.000Not people who are so-called eyewitnesses who are dead who people can't question, sir.
00:43:36.000Well, no, that's completely incorrect.
00:43:38.000So evidences are submitted to courts all the time from people who have passed away, which would lend credible evidence as to who their assaulter could have been, who their murderer may have been.
00:43:47.000People leave behind diaries all the time, which are submitted into evidences into court.
00:43:51.000But give credible evidences as to whether or not there could have been somebody who had a hand in foul play or fraud or any number of different things.
00:44:51.000What does that have to do with anything we're talking about?
00:44:53.000It's very simple, because this mental illness that you guys have, believing that a virgin had gave birth to Jesus Christ, where you know that's impossible.
00:45:03.000It is literally impossible for a virgin to have a child.
00:45:12.000That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
00:45:13.000Unless you have artificial insemination.
00:45:15.000It's not impossible for a virgin to have a child, bro.
00:45:55.000You have to start, when you say a thing is impossible, what you have to understand what you're saying is that somewhere in there is a contradiction.
00:46:07.000That's fine, and you can say it's improbable, or you're not convinced by the evidences which are put forward, even though, as far as a historic standard goes, there's good reason.
00:46:18.000To believe that there's at least some kind of event around this which led to Jesus' credibility to begin with, that's why the credibility even exists in the first place.
00:46:26.000There's no credibility there whatsoever.
00:46:27.000So your idea, like the idea, hang on, the idea here that you can make the claim, I'm not convinced by the evidence, is fair.
00:46:35.000The idea that you say there is no evidence is not fair.
00:46:38.000So that's what my argument to you would be.
00:46:42.000You can always say you're unconvinced by evidence.
00:48:46.000Okay, so would you agree that the type of person you are and the type of life you have lived would say a lot about how good of a Christian you are?
00:49:00.000So Christian ethics is somewhat complex, but it's also overly simplified.
00:49:04.000And I'll give you the oversimplified version.
00:49:07.000So Christian ethics is taking a combination of virtues and duties...
00:49:12.000And then the teachings of Jesus Christ is combining them to the outlook of the follower of Jesus Christ.
00:49:17.000So we know what we ought to do, what we should not do, what forgiveness is, what forgiveness isn't, why you need church authority, normative authority to guide you, etc., etc., etc.
00:49:27.000So Christian ethics, and that's kind of my domain, that's kind of the purview of what that is.
00:49:34.000But each individual case for each individual person is somewhat different because Christianity exists in what's called pluralism.
00:49:43.000If you lived in Japan, the way that you would honor your mother and father would be different than the way you lived in the United States, right?
00:49:49.000You would have to honor them differently based on the cultural customs.
00:49:55.000You still have to honor them in Christianity.
00:49:57.000However, based on the cultural dynamics that you're in, there could be multiple ways to honor them, which would still fit inside of the dimension of you adhering to the principle.
00:50:18.000Well, I mean, you know, say a man, a woman was married to a man, then she was divorced, she was married to another man, then divorced, then she remarried again.
00:50:26.000What are the Christian ethics of that?
00:50:28.000Yeah, so what the doctrine says is that there's good reasons for divorce, and this is outlined by Paul, and this is also outlined by Jesus Christ himself, and then Paul really gave the full outline.
00:50:59.000And this is a situation that you have dealt with and your father has dealt with.
00:51:04.000I've watched the videos about you when you talked about how your father had multiple wives and you're of the same, you know, just like him, had multiple wives too, correct?
00:52:46.000By the way, it would be the most Christian, as far as Christian ethics, it's the most Christian thing to do to take care of the people who are around you.
00:52:56.000For instance, if your brother died or something like this...
00:54:20.000Well, it basically goes like this, man.
00:54:23.000If you're going to preach about Christianity and you're going to preach to others about what a good Christian is and how people should become Christians, then the way you live your life has a lot to do with it because you basically have to do what you preach.
00:56:50.000Yeah, so anyway, Jesus Christ himself had a stepfather.
00:56:54.000I don't know why you think this is a dunk.
00:56:58.000Yes, of course, the ethical thing and the ethical purview to do is to try to take care and assist people who can't assist themselves.
00:57:06.000There's nothing within Christian ethics or Christian virtues which disallow from you marrying a woman who has children from previous marriages.
00:57:15.000There's nothing there which, dude, I didn't interrupt you.
00:57:21.000Okay, so I don't even know where you're coming up with this.
00:57:23.000I think that what you've done is you've conflated me with, like, some kind of red pill bro, and you think that I'm some red pill content creator, but I'm not.
00:57:56.000What you're also trying to do is you're also trying to placate ego and materialism by saying, look, I bought this chick for, you know, 100 bucks from whatever Boom Boom country bought her from.
00:58:06.000And we have this wonderful, great marriage.
00:58:09.000And, you know, I'm not raising anybody else's kids and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:58:53.000Does it lead to a massive amount of degeneracy?
00:58:56.000Ultimately, if this is something which is a goal, this is, in other words, something you're pushing society towards, of course.
00:59:02.000That has nothing to do with the personal situation of an individual person or individual circumstances, each of which should be assessed on their own merits within the confines of Christian ethics.
00:59:11.000So the only reason, by the way, you brought this in as a personal attack, and I understand why.
00:59:16.000Most of my critics usually will do this after they've lost a debate with me.
00:59:19.000And that's exactly what's happening now, just like it happened before.
01:02:39.000Andrew, yeah, I guess this will be the last one on this round, I'm guessing, and then what was the next topic that you guys want to hit with Christianity?
01:03:40.000Well, it's pretty easy to deduce because the people who are in the Trump administration have no fucking clue who you are, Gary, and they're definitely not taking numerological advice from you.
01:03:52.000On top of all of this, all that you have done is say, Andrew, Because I can't defeat your arguments, I'm going to attack the fact that 20 years ago, or 15, or whatever it is, you married a woman who had kids.
01:05:49.000And the only reason you're upset with me is because I'm vastly popular, and I'm going to continue to be vastly popular while you nip on my heels and fucking ex.
01:05:56.000Like the fat, pathetic loser that you are, Gary.
01:05:59.000There's nothing that you're going to be able to do about that.
01:06:02.000And the reason is, is because I am superior at debate.
01:08:08.000But I saw a lot of people who actually mattered, but not you.
01:08:11.000So just the fact of the matter is, because I could actually get people at events, sometimes people who other people don't even want there, I can still get them in because I got pulled like that.
01:08:23.000So you might not believe it, but quite frankly, you don't matter.
01:10:05.000Because Muslim women have low body counts.
01:10:09.000Your Christian women are, you know, have more miles on it than the 1979 Mazda, bro.
01:10:16.000So you gotta be real, real careful if you're gonna go down this Christian route, because the Christian women, especially in the UK, America, all the Western society, they're cooked!
01:10:28.000Just like this motherfucker is cooked!
01:10:30.000Coming home, the kids don't even look like him.
01:10:47.000The idea that you think that happiness comes from something as vacant as pure materialism actually shows why the epistemology that I hold is superior.
01:11:00.000You would have to admit that just because you have money...
01:11:04.000That does not make you happy or content in life.
01:11:08.000And that the form that you have of epistemic nihilism actually leads to a purposeless life.
01:11:14.000For you, you say, even if, like you say, everybody walks away with your claims and says, you're right, this Andrew guy, you know, this whole stepfather thing, this is bullshit.
01:11:25.000But the thing is, is like, just break it down logically.
01:11:28.000Let's say for a second I had no stepkids and married a virgin.
01:11:45.000It also would not prove anything about my worldview being false.
01:11:48.000It does nothing to advance the cause of what I'm actually saying or whether it's false or whether it's true.
01:11:54.000The reason that this is the attack vector is because Gary's stupid enough to believe that Christians are going to go, even though it's well within the purview of Christian ethics.
01:12:06.000The only thing you could say that I did wrong was that...
01:12:10.000I took care of people who needed a father in their life.
01:12:13.000Like, what the fuck did I do wrong, Gary?
01:12:15.000What was so terrible about me doing that, Gary?
01:12:33.000And even if my entire personal life was a fucking mess and I was a broken down, broke alcoholic like you want everybody to believe, you still haven't disproven a single fucking claim I've made.
01:12:45.000So ultimately, if you think that people are going to walk away with already public information that already everybody knows because I already talked about all of this on the very program you're on right this second, well good luck Gary.
01:12:59.000I don't know what it did for you though.
01:13:03.000You know, basically, you know, proving someone's a fraud, proving that someone who goes on other podcasts and talks shit to women calling other men cucks when he's a simp himself taking care of other people's kids, that's who you are.
01:13:49.000No, they follow me because I make compelling and good arguments on behalf of a very coherent worldview and destroy leftists and scumbags and lunatics all over the Internet, like yourself, and destroy their entire worldview, crush their epistemology, and prove exactly what they are.
01:14:06.000Even if my entire personal life was a disaster and I was a secret degen who did all sorts of horrible things.
01:14:13.000It would not disprove any of my positions, Gary!
01:14:17.000Well, you can laugh all you want, but I think the people are laughing at you, Cuck.
01:15:16.000If America is a so-called Christian nation and the UK is a Christian nation and Canada and Australia, all of this Western society where all these women wear their crosses and then have the OnlyFans, we are to deduce that Christianity is either, one, a failure, or two, leads women to become whores.
01:15:38.000One of the reasons I married a Muslim woman...
01:15:41.000It's not because I believe in Allah or their Quran or any nonsense like that.
01:15:46.000It's because I know that Muslim men have something called honor killings.
01:15:52.000I know that Muslim men have something.
01:15:55.000They will protect the virtue of their women.
01:15:58.000Which is why I knew that if I picked a woman, it was always going to be a Muslim woman.
01:16:04.000Because to me, Andrew, maybe not to you, Joseph, but to me...
01:16:38.000Did virtue of a woman mean nothing to you, sir?
01:16:42.000Yeah, so I'll respond to kind of all of this in sequence.
01:16:45.000Let's put three minutes on the clock for Andrew.
01:16:46.000Yeah, so the first thing is, like, Gary's kind of right in some of this, but he's mostly wrong, as usual.
01:16:52.000So I'll give him the granting of the things he's kind of right about.
01:16:55.000It is true that decadence has taken over most of the West, and there's all sorts of subversion inside of the West from a lot of this decadence.
01:17:03.000And there are a lot of people who use a self-identifier of Christian who are not Christian.
01:17:11.000The thing is, is that inside the purview of Christian ethics, we're not going to behead you in things like this for wearing a cross while you do your OnlyFans.
01:17:20.000And we never really had to because we had the mechanism of public shame and public propaganda on our side in order to reduce these types of decadent behaviors from happening.
01:17:29.000This is exactly what myself and many others are fighting to move back towards.
01:17:34.000Now, it's actually secularism and the alternative to...
01:19:26.000So that wasn't even a virtue that I held.
01:19:28.000Nor do I think it was probably a virtue you held when you met yours, Gary.
01:19:32.000So the thing is, again, the only thing you seem to be able to tie any facts to is the already publicly released information that I married a woman who had children.
01:22:54.000I'll tell you what, if you're big at the statistic, how about we do DNA tests and see how many of those kids are yours and how many of those kids are mine.
01:23:23.000What makes one of those bad and the other one not bad?
01:23:25.000Very simply, because a woman is taking advantage of you and your resources because she was a whore or a slut and basically has kids out of windlock that someone didn't want to take care of.
01:26:14.000The next topic, what did you want to discuss with Christianity?
01:26:17.000I want to keep going with the virtues of Christianity because this is extremely important for people who want to decide if they're going to be Christians, if they're going to be Muslims, what they're going to do in life.
01:26:27.000Because, listen, here's what it comes down to, man.
01:26:31.000Hold on, are you okay with that, Andrew?
01:31:03.000And then he strawmans and characterizes Christianity as being something which is making a determination or a dictation that you must do X. Christianity is not postulating that you must be a stepfather or a stepparent.
01:31:17.000Many men have a preference not to do that.
01:31:19.000Who the fuck would ever tell them that was wrong or improper?
01:31:54.000I just don't know what the hell he's talking about.
01:31:57.000You can go country by country by country, and this can be demonstrated pretty easily.
01:32:02.000So, again, I don't know how this is a criticism of Christian ethics.
01:32:07.000When Christian ethics isn't saying that you must have a preference for any type of woman or ex-woman or whatever, only that if she follows the same virtues and value structures that you do, you can marry her with the blessing of your priest in church.
01:32:34.000What you're going to do is you're going to pay for a bunch of bullshit cold readings, and you're going to lose your ass, like many people already have, and you're not going to make any fucking money.
01:32:41.000The only person who's going to make money in the transaction that you have with Gary is one person, and that's Gary.
01:32:59.000And I can guarantee you that I've given way more...
01:33:02.000Back to my audience than you fucking ever have in a million years.
01:33:05.000And on top of all of that, right, as if that wasn't bad enough, just try to remember this, that in this huge bill of sale that Gary's trying to kind of sell you, Andrew's a grifter, he's this, he's evil, he's blah, blah, blah.
01:33:20.000Look at what he did with his wife, everything which is well within the purview of Christian ethics.
01:33:25.000Gary has not demonstrated any fraud on behalf of Andrew Wilson.
01:33:30.000He's not shown that I've ever taken a dime from anybody in an illicit or malicious manner or a malevolent manner or that I've never done business with anybody in a way which wasn't completely on the up and up.
01:35:19.000And I'll be more than happy to show Myron and Fresh, and then they can go out afterwards and say that's true or not.
01:35:24.000Well, you seem, for a grifter, I must be really terrible at it, because there seems to be a very low list of people accusing me of defrauding them, and a very high list of people who claim that you have defrauded them.
01:36:24.000I literally was on that show, and Myron asked me about all of this, and I told him all of it.
01:36:31.000You got the lowest hanging fruit when it came to a woman, and that's what you basically have to show out there, that you have a random woman as your wife.
01:39:33.000We'll talk about that behind the scenes.
01:39:35.000Quick Slap says, Before Constantine the Great was a Roman Emperor, he was fighting in a war and was outnumbered.
01:39:41.000He saw the cross in the sky when he was a pagan that he would win, so he ordered his soldiers to put the cross on their shields, and he won the war.
01:39:49.000He converted to Christianity at the time when Christians were persecuted, and no other reason to convert unless what he saw was real.
01:39:58.000Rebel Overdose says, Nice to meet you, Gary.
01:40:00.000What concrete evidence that you will have or prove that or that I can search up that zodiac signs and neurology is real and help someone to find a comparable relationship?
01:40:59.000You'd think there'd be mathematical formulas all over the place to prove this, but he never has any.
01:41:04.000He just shows you these really, really tiny data sets that he comes up with, which just affirm his belief, and the second they're questioned, they fall apart.
01:42:01.000Yeah, well, again, even to the casual observer who understands that life is not simplified, it's complex, and that each individual situation for each individual person is a different set.
01:42:15.000It's a different set of circumstances.
01:42:17.000When we discuss optimals, we can say things are optimal.
01:42:21.000And that is true, that a thing is optimal.
01:42:24.000And there's nothing wrong with saying that, but also saying at the same time, there can be cases of nuance where you can make the most out of a bad situation, or you can make mistakes, recover from them.
01:42:35.000There's all sorts of different individual circumstances.
01:42:37.000Gary himself, remember, admitted, it's good to take care of kids like this.
01:46:25.000Yeah, so any of the people who are enrolled in your class right this second who have stepfathers, their stepfather is a simp and you're saying that their mother has mediocre pussy.
01:46:40.000So, therefore, if it is the case that any of your...
01:46:44.000Can you say, Gary, can you affirmatively say that anybody who takes your course, who has a stepfather, that their stepfather is a simp, simp meaning sucker idolizing mediocre pussy, which means that their mothers have mediocre pussy.
01:46:58.000Gary, can you just be at least honest and say any of your customers?
01:48:07.000So I just want to make sure I got this right.
01:48:09.000If you died, right, if you died, you would not want your wife to remarry, and you would not want your kids to have a father role model in their life.
01:48:42.000If it were the case that you did not have enough money for her to live forevermore, or let's just say the government came in and took it all away for some reason because they just didn't like your face.
01:52:14.000Can we actually use a real experiment where half of them are rigged and half of them aren't so that we can determine which of your actual readings are not tailored via cold reading?
01:52:23.000Why does it always have to be rigged, bro?
01:52:26.000Why does it always have to be some rigged job with you?
01:52:28.000That's how you do an experiment for proof.
01:53:33.000We're going to put random people here, and then I'm going to read them like a book, and they're going to decide if I was right around.
01:53:39.000No, that's not the controlled experiment.
01:53:40.000I'll give you the parameters for the controlled experiment.
01:53:41.000Because you know more than the people I'm going to read.
01:53:43.000Yeah, so I'm going to give you the parameters for the controlled experiment.
01:53:46.000And these are the same type of parameters you would find from the Skeptic Society.
01:53:51.000So what we would do is we would have a bunch of people in there, and half of them would be legit, and half of them would purposely give you false information.
01:54:00.000And what they would do is before they ever went in that room, they would write out all of the true information that they had and see if based on your reading, right, that compared to the...
01:54:13.000True information that they were giving behind the scene versus the false, if it compares up to the true information, you're cold reading.
01:54:21.000So if I say someone had a bad year in 1996, and that person agrees that that was one of the worst years of their life, that's not enough evidence for you.
01:54:28.000Well, we wouldn't allow vague questions like that.
01:54:48.000And yes, I predict it for myself, too.
01:54:50.000But for some people, that would be a bad year.
01:54:51.000For some people, it wouldn't be a bad year.
01:54:53.000Listen, people can go back and they can put in Dwight Howard numerology and they can see where I predicted this guy's injury before it even happened.
01:56:09.000If you continuously make that date for 10 fucking years, it's going to happen eventually, Gary.
01:56:13.000About 3.5 million people have seen that in the past 24 hours.
01:56:17.000It's going to happen eventually, Gary, if you make the same prediction for 10 years, the likelihood that one of them happens is very high, Gary.
01:57:45.000You might find another kid to take care of.
01:57:46.000Anyway, the skeptic society who has been finding out frauds for years and years and years.
01:57:52.000If we can agree to have the Skeptic Society run a controlled experiment, which you pre-agree to, we'll put all the terms out publicly, to test whether or not your numerology is correct or incorrect, I will pay to have that done.
01:59:49.000I'll just say very simply that not only did I once again disprove, and by the way, right in the beginning of the debate, disproved him even on his own date system, but also let us remember that the only thing that this guy could bring to the table was an attempt to assault my character.
02:00:06.000Based around the idea that he thinks a red pill community is going to rally around a known con artist when they've been trying to move them out as much as possible.
02:00:14.000Regardless of what you think about my personal life, which is fine to think whatever you want, I am consistent in my worldview.
02:00:21.000There's nothing I'm saying which is incorrect, which is why Gary had no arguments against me whatsoever, especially not with Christian virtues.
02:00:30.000On top of all of that, just try to notate that Christians don't make an ought that you must marry single mom or you must not marry single mom, right?
02:00:41.000That each circumstance is different based on the virtues of the man and the woman who are practicing the religion, who are trying to come to the fruition of a family.
02:00:50.000So what Gary will say is there's Gary's way, the con artist numerology way.
02:00:55.000And then there's Andrew Wilson's way, which is the rejection of materialism and the movement towards something which is fulfilling.
02:01:02.000That can have many roads in a pluralistic religion that understands there's many pathways to achieve those virtues.
02:01:08.000There are men out there who are going to marry women who have children who are going to be very happy men for the rest of their life.
02:01:54.000It's to try to convince you that I'm a man of low character, even though I'm the only one here with a consistent position, which he even agrees is good!