Fresh & Fit - Andrew Wilson VS Gary The Numbers Guy. Christianity Debate!

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:03:50.000 We are here with Gary and Andrew Wilson.

00:03:52.000 We're going to be doing a debate on Christianity and numerology.

00:03:56.000 So, we're not going to play the intro music, man.

00:03:58.000 We're going to just go ahead and have our guests introduce themselves for you guys.

00:04:02.000 Gary, you want to introduce yourself first?

00:04:04.000 Yeah, my name is Gary The Numbers Guy.

00:04:05.000 I'm the best of the best of what the hell I do.

00:04:08.000 No more introduction needed.

00:04:09.000 Simple.

00:04:10.000 To the point.

00:04:10.000 Andrew?

00:04:12.000 Yeah, I'm Andrew Wilson.

00:04:13.000 I'm the host of The Crucible.

00:04:14.000 It's a popular entertainment channel on YouTube.

00:04:16.000 I'm a political analyst, a political satirist.

00:04:18.000 I also do debates all over the world.

00:04:20.000 I appreciate you guys hosting this debate tonight.

00:04:23.000 All right.

00:04:23.000 Happy to be here and facilitate it.

00:04:26.000 So I guess we'll go right into opening statements.

00:04:28.000 We had a discussion before about parameters and everything else like that.

00:04:32.000 The way this is going to work, Chad, is we're going to have four minutes of an opening statement where they kind of give their position of where they stand.

00:04:38.000 And then after that, we're going to go into timed rounds.

00:04:42.000 For the first one or two rounds, assuming everything goes good, it's going to be open dialogue between the two.

00:04:46.000 Hopefully it doesn't get too rowdy.

00:04:47.000 But if it does, then we'll go back to time rounds where only one person can speak at a time.

00:04:51.000 And we can kind of go from there.

00:04:53.000 But I think both parties agreed to having open dialogue for at least the first two rounds, see how it goes.

00:04:58.000 But the opening statements are going to be four minutes uninterrupted where they stay at their position.

00:05:01.000 I think Gary is the challenger, so he's going to go first.

00:05:03.000 Yes.

00:05:04.000 And then he'll get the last word as well.

00:05:07.000 So I'll turn it over to Gary.

00:05:09.000 I'll start the timer once he starts talking.

00:05:12.000 And we also have, I think, one or two videos to play as well that are very short.

00:05:15.000 Did you want to talk first or video first?

00:05:18.000 Let's start talking first.

00:05:19.000 Today what we're going to do is we're going to talk to someone who promotes a system that's a relic.

00:05:26.000 Whether it be Christianity, Islam, Judaism, see how I put that one in there too?

00:05:31.000 Buddhism, Hinduism. 0.96

00:05:33.000 These are all belief systems that were started a long time ago when people were a lot less advanced.

00:05:39.000 When people talk about the family unit, that is a discussion we're going to have today.

00:05:44.000 But here's the thing.

00:05:46.000 I want people to understand this.

00:05:48.000 I'm not debating this as an atheist.

00:05:50.000 I believe in the prime creator.

00:05:53.000 I believe.

00:05:54.000 I won't call the prime creator a god, because to me, there's so many false gods, plus, you know, God spelled backwards as dogs, so I'm not going to insult the guy like that.

00:06:03.000 To me, the prime creator is real.

00:06:05.000 We're not going to be discussing the validity if there is a prime creator.

00:06:09.000 What we will be discussing is the validity of the system.

00:06:13.000 Of Christianity, the validity of the system, Islam, but mainly we're going to focus on Christianity.

00:06:18.000 And then we're going to start talking about the practitioners within that system to see if they're actually living up to their so-called virtue.

00:06:27.000 Or we're going to start talking about, is there a better system?

00:06:31.000 And having said that, you know, let's have the tapes.

00:06:35.000 Bills, let's start. 0.98

00:06:36.000 My name is Gary the Numbers Guy.

00:06:57.000 I'm a numerologist astrologer, and the information you hear in this video just could save the life of a loved one or yourself.

00:07:04.000 Ever since I started studying numerology right after 9-11, it got me to thinking, is there a pattern to this?

00:07:09.000 And what I discovered is absolutely horrifying.

00:07:12.000 Whenever it's the 11th, the 29th, or any day that adds up to an 11th, there seems to be a lot of plane crashes in the world.

00:07:19.000 Basically, if you're going to get on a plane on the 11th, 29th, or any day that adds up to an 11th, or say when the Okay, cut that video.

00:07:30.000 So basically, that was a video from me in 2011. See, unlike most people who pick up grips, I've been doing this for a while because I actually believe in this.

00:07:39.000 This is what I do.

00:07:40.000 This is what I believe.

00:07:41.000 This is how I live my life.

00:07:42.000 I told people 11 years ago, don't fly in the 11th and 29th.

00:07:46.000 Play the next video, Bills.

00:07:48.000 Do not fly on 11 days.

00:08:07.000 Do not fly on the 29th of the month.

00:08:09.000 You've seen what happened.

00:08:10.000 Not one, not two, not three, but five.

00:08:12.000 Five plane crashes.

00:08:13.000 January 29th.

00:08:14.000 Three plane accidents in the world.

00:08:17.000 And yesterday, the first day of the snake, 2025, January 29th, we had a very serious plane accident in Washington, D.C., where over 60 people on an American's airline died in midair in takeoff because they collided.

00:08:30.000 The whole point is this.

00:08:32.000 There is a better way to live than to believe there's a magic man in the sky.

00:08:36.000 There is a better way to live than to believe a virgin gave birth to Jesus Christ. 0.94

00:08:40.000 No one will believe that stuff in the streets.

00:08:43.000 Why do you believe in fairy tales that are in the Bible?

00:08:45.000 I just showed you as a numerologist.

00:08:47.000 I said, don't fly planes on 11 days or the 29th.

00:08:51.000 What happened?

00:08:52.000 We have five plane accidents.

00:08:55.000 Some that have cost people their lives in the past 29th of the month.

00:08:59.000 I didn't say 1st.

00:09:00.000 I didn't say 7th.

00:09:01.000 I didn't say 18th.

00:09:02.000 I said 29th, and that's exactly when it happened.

00:09:06.000 Numerology and astrology is a better way because that is actually the prime creator's language.

00:09:11.000 I yield my time.

00:09:13.000 All right.

00:09:13.000 Three minutes and 50 seconds.

00:09:15.000 All right.

00:09:15.000 I'll put four minutes on the clock for you, Andrew.

00:09:19.000 I'll start once you get going.

00:09:21.000 And then, Bills, if we have that timer ready for the next one, the one after this one we'll have it, right?

00:09:26.000 All right, cool.

00:09:27.000 Yeah, go whenever you're ready, Andrew.

00:09:29.000 Yeah, so when you're talking about religion, and Gary seems to be saying that he's going to come at this from a religious purview, not as an atheist, and he believes in some system which has what he calls a prime mover or prime creator, which isn't a god, which I don't exactly understand.

00:09:45.000 So I don't actually understand what the religious purview is that Gary is speaking from.

00:09:51.000 So debates, when you're talking about Christianity versus any religion or secularism, it's about worldviews.

00:09:59.000 So what you're doing is you're taking epistemology, which is grounding knowledge and foundational knowledge, and you're seeing if it holds up to the scrutiny inside of a worldview.

00:10:09.000 In other words, are the descriptors for this knowledge, are they coherent?

00:10:13.000 Do they make sense?

00:10:14.000 Is it something which can be followed?

00:10:16.000 Is it something which essentially is coherent in its explanation?

00:10:22.000 Gary does not actually have that.

00:10:24.000 So Gary is using this bizarre system.

00:10:27.000 So, for instance, he brings to bear this evidence.

00:10:31.000 His evidence says, look, I predicted that there would be plane crashes on the 11th, 29th day, this type of thing.

00:10:39.000 But here's all the plane crashes that he forgot about.

00:10:42.000 March 21st, China Eastern Airlines.

00:10:44.000 April 7th, DHL Aero Express.

00:10:46.000 May 12th, Tibet Airlines.

00:10:47.000 May 29th, Tara Air Flight.

00:10:50.000 June 21st, Red Air Flight.

00:10:52.000 July 16th, Meridian Flight.

00:10:54.000 September 4th, October 23rd, November 6th, November 18th, the list goes on and on and on of dates which don't coincide with what Gary is talking about here.

00:11:04.000 The truth is, is that if you make a prediction that there's going to be some type of aerial catastrophe, which will revolve around the 11th or the 29th, eventually you will be right.

00:11:17.000 There's not, I mean, just as an eventuality, that has to be the case.

00:11:21.000 Now note, He claims he made this prediction years ago, and this validates the prediction.

00:11:26.000 I actually would counter and say that that prediction is invalidated because he made it years ago.

00:11:31.000 Because it's so many years ago, all he had to do was wait over years because eventually, if you say the sky is going to fall on X day, it will.

00:11:41.000 If you say some type of deterministic accident will happen on X day.

00:11:47.000 Eventually, you will be correct, especially when you're talking about airlines, air traffic control, you know, car accidents, famous people dying, right?

00:11:56.000 And he's talking, he's saying, well, 10 years ago, I predicted this.

00:11:58.000 Well, no, 10 years ago, you predicted nothing.

00:12:00.000 You just said there could be plane crashes, which happened on these dates.

00:12:05.000 And you missed all the other dates that plane crashes happen on that aren't these dates, and it took 10 years for one to finally happen on that date.

00:12:13.000 That's just mere chance.

00:12:14.000 So this is not evidence for the coherency of his worldview or his system.

00:12:19.000 It's not even proof that his predictions are correct.

00:12:23.000 And with that, I'll yield my time.

00:12:25.000 All right.

00:12:25.000 You still had three minutes.

00:12:26.000 Sorry, you still had a minute on the clock.

00:12:27.000 So I guess we'll go to...

00:12:29.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:12:30.000 Let me respond to what he said.

00:12:31.000 Well, this is going to go into one of the first debates.

00:12:33.000 I get you.

00:12:33.000 Let me finish this up, though.

00:12:35.000 Sir, I did make that prediction 10 years ago.

00:12:38.000 I also made one about two days before it happened.

00:12:42.000 Billis, can you play that tape again?

00:12:43.000 The one I did two days before the 29th happened.

00:12:46.000 It will be the third video in that list.

00:12:49.000 See, I love the fact that you brought that up.

00:12:51.000 I wanted you to bring up the fact that it was 10 years old because I did the same thing.

00:12:56.000 Do the one with the 11 on it.

00:12:58.000 Yep, play that one.

00:12:59.000 On 11 days, it's the most likely that you can have issues with planes.

00:13:03.000 We had three planes have issues on December 29th, 2024. Korea, Canada, another one.

00:13:09.000 Why?

00:13:09.000 Because it was the 29th and 29th is 11. And I've said this many times.

00:13:12.000 On 11 days, if you can avoid flying, you should.

00:13:15.000 I'm not going to say I haven't flown on 11 days.

00:13:17.000 I have.

00:13:17.000 But if I can avoid it, I do it.

00:13:19.000 Why take that chance if you can avoid it?

00:13:22.000 On 11 days.

00:13:23.000 Cut the video.

00:13:24.000 So that basically disproves everything you just said, Andrew, because that video was made two days before the 29th.

00:13:32.000 So again, sir, you can try to backpedal all you want, whether you go 10 years ago or you go two days ago.

00:13:39.000 My message has always been consistent.

00:13:41.000 Now, you're going to say, guess what, Gary?

00:13:44.000 Not all plane crashes happen on the 29th.

00:13:46.000 Guess what?

00:13:46.000 You're right.

00:13:47.000 I agree with you, but the fact is, if you do a mathematical percentage of the days plane crashes do happen, you're going to see they significantly increase on the 11th and 29th.

00:13:57.000 That's why December 29th, we had three plane crashes worldwide, and a couple days ago, we had two, including the one in Washington, D.C. So your whole argument is invalidated, my friend.

00:14:09.000 I just gave you more proof right there than it's all of the freaking Bible.

00:14:14.000 I yield my time.

00:14:16.000 All right.

00:14:16.000 So just to dive in, I'm willing to concede this portion of the argument, Gary.

00:14:23.000 Just show me mathematically that most plane crashes are going to happen on the 11th, 29th.

00:14:27.000 I'll wait.

00:14:29.000 There have been four, I believe, five plane crashes this year.

00:14:34.000 Yeah, no, actually, there have been significantly more.

00:14:37.000 Go to the list of how many happened, and then go to the 11th and 29th, and then we can do a mathematical survey.

00:14:44.000 And by the way, I did call this.

00:14:46.000 You said you already, no, no, no, you made the statement, the affirmative statement.

00:14:51.000 It is, in fact, the case that most plane, not all plane crashes happen, but the highest percentage of them happen on the 11th and the 29th.

00:15:00.000 If that is the case, I await your evidence.

00:15:03.000 Oh, again, I didn't come here to do mathematical equations with you.

00:15:07.000 So you just came here to make claims that you can't?

00:15:09.000 The evidence is very clear.

00:15:10.000 Where's the evidence?

00:15:11.000 We had two plane craters yesterday.

00:15:12.000 Where's the one on the 30th, Andrew?

00:15:14.000 Where's the one on the 28th, Andrew?

00:15:16.000 Where's the one on the 27th?

00:15:17.000 So now that you have been basically proven wrong about this, let's move on and start talking about Christianity.

00:15:22.000 Oh, no, let's not move on just yet.

00:15:23.000 You've already committed code, sir.

00:15:24.000 Let's not move on just yet.

00:15:26.000 Go ahead.

00:15:27.000 When we pull up plane crashes for 2024, I actually just read you several dates, we can pull up the aviation dates of all plane crashes globally.

00:15:35.000 Would you like to do that right now?

00:15:36.000 I don't actually see.

00:15:38.000 So even if one were to happen on the 29th or the 11th, and all other ones don't happen on that day, then that would assume that the risk is just as possible for those other dates.

00:15:46.000 How many plane crashes happened this year, Andrew?

00:15:48.000 Hang on, hang on.

00:15:49.000 I just let you talk.

00:15:50.000 I didn't even interrupt you one time.

00:15:52.000 So what I'm saying to you is that statistically that would mean it's just as likely as any other day that these crashes happened on.

00:15:58.000 Now again, I'm willing to concede that you're correct in that on the 11th and 29th, that's when the highest percentage of plane crashes happen.

00:16:10.000 I just want you to give me the actual evidence for that.

00:16:13.000 That's all.

00:16:13.000 I'm not asking for you to move the heaven and earth here.

00:16:17.000 I'm not asking you to have the prime creator do anything.

00:16:20.000 I'm just asking for the actual evidence, the statistical evidence that proves on the 11th and 29th, that's when most plane crashes will happen.

00:16:27.000 Okay, so I'm going to pass this evidence right now.

00:16:29.000 The Myron that was just texted me.

00:16:30.000 Myron?

00:16:32.000 Okay.

00:16:33.000 Yeah, what do you want me to read now?

00:16:34.000 I just, whatever it says.

00:16:37.000 43 accidents.

00:16:39.000 Plank crashes in 2024. And then it shows you the days...

00:16:44.000 It shows me your Twitter.

00:16:45.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:16:46.000 I was looking at it like, oh shit, wait a second.

00:16:48.000 My bad.

00:16:49.000 No, no, you're fine.

00:16:50.000 There you go.

00:16:51.000 Alright.

00:16:52.000 Okay.

00:16:53.000 Well, you got a chart.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, yeah, there's a chart here.

00:16:55.000 43 fatal aircraft accidents by day 24. And it shows a chart here.

00:17:00.000 This chart analyzes...

00:17:01.000 Do you want me to put this on the screen for the audience?

00:17:03.000 Okay.

00:17:04.000 Shit.

00:17:04.000 You texted me this?

00:17:06.000 I'll give it to Bills.

00:17:06.000 I'll text it to you right now.

00:17:07.000 Alright, I'll give it to Bill.

00:17:09.000 One second.

00:17:11.000 And I'll put it up on screen for you.

00:17:12.000 It's on Twitter, so we've actually done that.

00:17:14.000 It's on Twitter?

00:17:14.000 Yeah, I'm about to send you two.

00:17:16.000 We've done statistical analysis just in case people like Andrew come along so we can actually prove our point without actually going back and forth in boring conversation.

00:17:25.000 I'll put it up on screen.

00:17:28.000 Okay.

00:17:31.000 Bill, let's send you this right now on the Telegram.

00:17:34.000 So you can put it up.

00:17:35.000 Men lie, we know women lie, but numbers never lie.

00:17:41.000 Alright.

00:17:42.000 So we passed the time for the round, but I'm assuming this is going to be on proving the point, so we'll just keep it going for this one.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:17:50.000 This is what he asked for, and if you ask, we shall provide.

00:17:54.000 Here we go.

00:17:57.000 Here it is.

00:17:58.000 Okay, we'll put it up on screen.

00:18:02.000 And then, Andrew, just let us know if there's anything you want us to show on your end.

00:18:05.000 Just let me know and I'll have Bill put it up as well.

00:18:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:08.000 Make sure that it's completely fair all around.

00:18:10.000 Okay.

00:18:11.000 Can you see that, Andrew?

00:18:18.000 I can't see anything.

00:18:19.000 Oh, you can't?

00:18:19.000 Okay, I can.

00:18:20.000 Is it way for us to...

00:18:22.000 But I can.

00:18:22.000 If you just tell me what the source is, I'll pull it up and follow along with you guys.

00:18:25.000 I will.

00:18:26.000 Actually, I'll do you one better.

00:18:28.000 I'll text it to you right now on your phone.

00:18:30.000 Okay.

00:18:30.000 So you have it.

00:18:31.000 The audience can see it on our end, but I'll give it to you so you can look at it as well.

00:18:34.000 And while I send you this, I'll read it out loud.

00:18:37.000 Can you make that big for me, Bills, real fast?

00:18:39.000 So it goes, fatal aircraft accidents by day.

00:18:41.000 This chart analyzes fatal aircraft incidents by the day of the month.

00:18:44.000 With the day's numerological energy reduced, the data reveals a striking alignment with Gary Greenberg's insights as 11 energy emerges as a key factor linked to malfunctions and significant events.

00:18:57.000 Offering valuable implications for aviation safety and then it shows the month and the days it looks like here.

00:19:05.000 So yeah, on the bottom you have day of month and then on the left hand side you can have frequency.

00:19:11.000 And then you go there by the day total, so when something adds up to an 11-day in total, you can see that there's a significant amount more plane crashes than all the other days.

00:19:22.000 Now, am I saying they only happen on those days?

00:19:24.000 Of course not.

00:19:24.000 What I am saying is there's a significant increase in fatalities when it comes to planes on certain days based off numerology, and here's the evidence.

00:19:34.000 And just to be clear, what are those days?

00:19:36.000 Those are the 43 fatal accidents that we've had in...

00:19:40.000 No, no, no.

00:19:40.000 I'm sorry.

00:19:41.000 I'll just clarify the question.

00:19:43.000 What are the days you're saying?

00:19:45.000 It's the 11th?

00:19:46.000 So anything, so there's two graphs.

00:19:47.000 There's one way to come up to an 11 energy is anything that happens on the 11th or 29th because 2 and 9 is 11. The other day is something that adds up to the day they attacked Afghanistan. 0.91

00:19:59.000 Afghanistan was attacked, I believe, 10-7-2001.

00:20:03.000 1-0-7-0-2-0-0-1 adds up to an 11. So that is the only ways you can come up with 11 energy.

00:20:10.000 And based off those statistical...

00:20:14.000 increase here.

00:20:14.000 So I'm very happy you brought those type of questions up and stuff like that, because we're ready for you.

00:20:19.000 Good.

00:20:20.000 So let me just refute this very quickly.

00:20:23.000 The most deadly day for airlines is actually on the 17th.

00:20:29.000 Here's my proof.

00:20:31.000 The total 787 people killed in the combination of these accidents are the worst in history.

00:20:36.000 Remember, Gary just got done telling you.

00:20:39.000 That these are going to be the days which correspond with the most deadly accidents, and they're not.

00:20:45.000 1996, 2000, 2007, 2014. That would be Malaysian flight, TAM54, Alliance Air 7412, and TWA800 for a combined 787. That is actually the most deadly date, sir.

00:20:59.000 Well, I said when they mostly happen.

00:21:02.000 No, you said that that's when you get the most casualties.

00:21:05.000 I said they mostly happen on 11 days.

00:21:05.000 Don't change the narrative.

00:21:07.000 You said that's when you get the most casualties.

00:21:09.000 I understand you want to move the goalposts, but I said most accidents with airplanes happen on 11 days.

00:21:13.000 You said the most fatalities.

00:21:15.000 I provided the evidence, and now you're backtracking.

00:21:17.000 But, you know, you lied in the last debate, so I expect accidents like this.

00:21:19.000 What am I backtracking on?

00:21:21.000 You said the most fatalities happened on those days.

00:21:23.000 What you did was you took a graph of only 43. I basically said most accidents happened on 11 days.

00:21:28.000 That graph proved exactly what I said, sir.

00:21:30.000 Well, no, the graph, well, the graph did was it showed a data for one year set.

00:21:35.000 And in that one year set, it did show, too.

00:21:38.000 We're going to move from a year to five years to ten years.

00:21:41.000 Let me respond, dude.

00:21:42.000 So, yes, that's exactly what you would do.

00:21:44.000 You would say if this was consistently true, that every year this was consistently true.

00:21:48.000 If it's consistently true every year, then you are indeed, yes, correct, that on the 11th and 29th, that's when you're going to see the most amount of these accidents happen, if year by year that is the case.

00:21:59.000 However...

00:22:00.000 It's not.

00:22:00.000 Not only is it not, but the most deadly days on the 17th, proven by these four flights that I just gave you with a combined death total, 787s, worst in history.

00:22:10.000 You've just been proven incorrect, Gary.

00:22:12.000 So, again, I said most plane accidents happen on certain days.

00:22:16.000 I was proven right.

00:22:17.000 No, you weren't proven right.

00:22:18.000 You only showed 2024. Okay, so 2024. But I also went on video two days before the 29th and said, don't find the 29th, and we just had the most horrific plane crash of two.

00:22:29.000 2025 happened on the 29th.

00:22:31.000 The point is, there is something to this, and if you don't actually see something to this, because I've given you statistical analysis, this is a reason for all you people who are listening right now to go out there and do the research.

00:22:43.000 Go out there and do the work, and you will see how the validity in this type of work.

00:22:48.000 Andrew is a person who doesn't want to believe in this.

00:22:50.000 He wants to believe that the Virgin gave birth to Jesus Christ.

00:22:53.000 That is his right to believe that.

00:22:55.000 But we believe in logic, and based on logic, mathematics, and percentages.

00:23:00.000 Numbers don't lie, my friend.

00:23:02.000 Yeah, but even if I was wrong, let's just say I was completely wrong about the religious belief of the virgin birth and all of the various criticisms you have about Christianity, even assuming that was incorrect, that wouldn't make your system correct.

00:23:14.000 That is logic.

00:23:15.000 So logic would dictate, even if Andrew wrong, that doesn't mean Gary Wright, or even if Gary Wright, that doesn't mean Andrew wrong.

00:23:22.000 That's actual logic.

00:23:23.000 So what I did was offer a statistical refutation.

00:23:27.000 The foremost deadly air disasters all fell on the 17th, on the 29th or the 11th.

00:23:32.000 All of those air disasters combined on the 17th had a grand toll of 787. No four combinations reached that number.

00:23:38.000 Therefore, Gary, you are wrong in your analysis.

00:23:41.000 The most deadly flights happen there, one.

00:23:44.000 And two, you're also wrong in your analysis that year by year, you will find the most amount of these accidents happen on the 11th and 29th, which is why you only gave us a single-year analysis.

00:23:52.000 Now, what that's called...

00:23:54.000 Hang on, hang on.

00:23:54.000 I'm almost done.

00:23:55.000 What that's called is a data bias.

00:23:57.000 That's when you, what you do is you take your sample and then you apply your sample to the current thing you already believe without giving people a full picture.

00:24:05.000 Now, if you were to say, Andrew, going back 15 years or even 10 years, year by year, I can show you that on the 11th and 29th, there's always the most amount of aircraft accidents which happen around these days.

00:24:16.000 That would actually be pretty powerful evidence.

00:24:17.000 And I would be like, huh, I'd have to take another look at that.

00:24:21.000 But that's not what you did.

00:24:22.000 You only gave us a single data set for 2024, which affirms the bias you already have.

00:24:26.000 And when you said it had the most casualties, that was just factually incorrect, Garrett.

00:24:30.000 This is what we're talking about.

00:24:32.000 This is a liberal straw man argument.

00:24:34.000 First, I proved that I said something would happen, and it did.

00:24:38.000 Then I gave him statistical analysis for 2024. It happened.

00:24:42.000 I was right.

00:24:43.000 He still doesn't accept it.

00:24:45.000 It's never going to be enough for people like this.

00:24:47.000 But these are the same type of people who tell you to believe in the Bible.

00:24:51.000 They tell you to believe Jesus Christ is coming back.

00:24:53.000 These are the same type of people who offer absolutely no proof that anything they believe in, but they won't accept mathematical proof from you.

00:25:03.000 They will always keep pushing further and further and further.

00:25:08.000 He doesn't want to have an honest conversation.

00:25:11.000 Exactly what I expected.

00:25:12.000 The fact of the matter is, most plane crashes happen on 11th and the 29th, or any day that adds up to an 11th, and Andrew, if you would really like me to do 20-year statistical analysis, I'll pay someone to do it, and if that will be enough evidence for you, tell me right now, on this stream, that will be enough evidence to you if I go back 20 years, because then I didn't go back 50 years, or hell, I didn't go back 100 years, because it's never going to be enough for you.

00:25:39.000 You're always going to move the goalposts.

00:25:42.000 I gave enough statistical evidence for the people who are watching, at least the ones with the IQ above room temperature, to understand there's something to this.

00:25:49.000 Okay, so let me respond to all of this.

00:25:53.000 I don't know why.

00:25:55.000 What Gary's doing is he's trying to switch the burden of proof.

00:25:57.000 It's very strange.

00:25:58.000 These are Gary's claims, not Andrew's claims.

00:26:01.000 I didn't claim what day the most aircraft accidents happen.

00:26:04.000 Gary claims that.

00:26:05.000 I didn't claim that this is true.

00:26:07.000 Gary claims this is true.

00:26:09.000 These are Gary's claims.

00:26:11.000 He says, well, what would it take to convince you of my claims?

00:26:14.000 And it's like, well, pretty simple.

00:26:16.000 If the claim, and this is the claim Gary made, that on the 11th and 29th, that's when the most amount of plane crashes are going to happen.

00:26:23.000 Well, is that every year, Gary?

00:26:25.000 Is that since airplanes were developed?

00:26:27.000 Yes.

00:26:28.000 Is that always?

00:26:28.000 Okay, so if that's the case, then it's perfectly reasonable and acceptable for me to say if that is true, then every single year since the very first airplane was made, you should be able to give me a very simple statistical analysis.

00:26:41.000 Now, let's go on to part two here.

00:26:43.000 Pull that chart up again.

00:26:45.000 Pull it up.

00:26:46.000 Okay.

00:26:47.000 The one we just had before, right?

00:26:49.000 The other chart.

00:26:50.000 Yeah, Bill will get it back up.

00:26:52.000 The one from X. Yeah, it should be in the Telegram.

00:26:58.000 And then after this, because we're talking about plane crashes and stuff, I guess we can cover...

00:27:03.000 Well, yeah, after this we can cover the next topic, which I'm assuming you guys want to talk about Jesus?

00:27:08.000 Christianity? 0.62

00:27:08.000 Yeah. 0.62

00:27:08.000 Okay. 0.62

00:27:09.000 Yeah, so go ahead and pull the chart up one more time.

00:27:12.000 We're letting this one rock, because obviously this all encompasses plane crashes and 11, so...

00:27:17.000 Here it is.

00:27:19.000 There you go.

00:27:20.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:27:22.000 So, are you claiming that there's only been 43 crashes, Gary?

00:27:27.000 Because I was just reading your chart.

00:27:28.000 Or are you just claiming that there's only 43 crashes which were fatal?

00:27:32.000 Fatal.

00:27:33.000 That's what that means.

00:27:34.000 Then, if that's the case...

00:27:36.000 If we were to use this statistical analysis for just fatal crashes, which I actually don't even think that's correct.

00:27:42.000 I think there were more than 43. And I'm sure I can pull that up, too.

00:27:45.000 But even if I'm wrong on that, let's just yield that this is correct.

00:27:49.000 And there was only 43 global accidents.

00:27:51.000 This would include non-commercial airliners, I would assume, single-engine Cessnas, guys who fly on their own.

00:27:58.000 Guys who are going out and, like, you know, taking private aircraft.

00:28:00.000 I'm not sure if we got someone in Zimbabwe who took a joyride and went down, but I'm sure... 1.00

00:28:04.000 Well, I mean, but either way, even if he did, it should still be on the 11th or the 29th.

00:28:08.000 Correct.

00:28:08.000 The thing is, is that if it is the case, are you also saying that those are the most deadly days, meaning the most amount of people died on those days?

00:28:17.000 That's not what it said.

00:28:18.000 That's what you said.

00:28:19.000 So if that's not the case, then why would we care anyway?

00:28:24.000 If the more deadly days are on the days which are not on the 11th and the 29th, wouldn't you want to predict the days with the most amount of fatalities rather than the days with the most amount of crashes?

00:28:34.000 Well, you want to talk about maybe one crash happened on the 17th that killed a whole bunch of people, but I'm going to tell you there's been about 10 that happened on the 11th, and maybe the total amount of people died wasn't exactly the same.

00:28:45.000 That's a straw man argument.

00:28:46.000 I'm telling you they mostly happened on the 11th and 29th.

00:28:49.000 And that's my whole argument, sir.

00:28:51.000 Let's not move anything over the goalposts anywhere.

00:28:53.000 That is the whole argument right there.

00:28:55.000 Yeah, but I'm giving an inquiry about the argument so that I have clarification.

00:28:59.000 Wouldn't it be actually more useful if I could demonstrate that more people died off the day of the 11th and 29th?

00:29:06.000 Wouldn't it then be more useful to give people the days in which the most amount of deaths will happen rather than the days in which the least amount of deaths happen?

00:29:13.000 That happened this year, so we'll see how the year goes.

00:29:15.000 But it's already there.

00:29:16.000 Washington, D.C., you know, RIP. The 35 or 37 souls that actually, I'm sorry, 60, 65 souls that died in a plane crash in Washington, D.C., which is crazy because all of us were just there.

00:29:29.000 All of us were just at that airport.

00:29:31.000 So, again, but, you know, we know not to fly in the 29th.

00:29:34.000 And now you can go back, you think, and demonstrate that on the 11th and 29th of each and every year that those are the days in which the most amount of all aircraft which fly around go down.

00:29:43.000 Or any day that adds up to an 11, correct.

00:29:45.000 Like I said, this includes all military aircraft.

00:29:48.000 I believe it encompasses everything.

00:29:50.000 You think that there was only 43 fatal accidents, which included military aircraft?

00:29:55.000 I don't know if it includes military aircrafts or not, but commercials...

00:29:59.000 But shouldn't it include military aircraft?

00:30:02.000 Aren't they beholden to the same numbers, rules, as commercial airlines?

00:30:05.000 When it comes down to military aircraft, it could be a war, you know, so you never know about that.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, there could be a war, but even if it was a war, you should still have...

00:30:12.000 The same amount of most of them going down on the 11th or 29th, right?

00:30:15.000 I will be more than happy to put up all those statistics within a week, sir.

00:30:19.000 And we'll do it on Twitter so we can go back and forth as well.

00:30:22.000 Do you think if I pulled up the Ukraine stats on which days various jets were shot down the most amount of them?

00:30:29.000 I mean, if you want to do all of that right now.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, that the most amount of them were shot down on the 11th and 29th.

00:30:33.000 And that the most helicopters go down on the 11th and 29th.

00:30:35.000 I mean, how do you want to go in the drones too?

00:30:37.000 I assume is this all aircraft?

00:30:40.000 Let's make all the rules now.

00:30:41.000 Where do you want to go with this?

00:30:42.000 I'm asking if this encompasses all aircraft or not.

00:30:45.000 Probably not military in Ukraine, though.

00:30:47.000 What gives them a numerological exception?

00:30:50.000 It's a war zone.

00:30:51.000 We're talking about commercial aircrafts, Cessnas, private aircrafts, things of that nature.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, but why are other aircraft accepted from this rule?

00:30:59.000 Because when you have a war zone, different rules apply, don't they, sir?

00:31:03.000 Or different numbers rules from the Prime Creator apply?

00:31:05.000 Well, of course, on 11 days.

00:31:07.000 Well, I mean, you want to talk about 9-11 when the first plane to hit the World Trade Center is Flight 11. We can talk about that as well.

00:31:14.000 I don't understand why there's an exception.

00:31:17.000 You want to talk about the plane to hit the World Trade Center on 9-11?

00:31:21.000 Will you want to talk about that?

00:31:23.000 I'm on YouTube.

00:31:24.000 I can't get into 9-11 shit.

00:31:26.000 No, no, no.

00:31:27.000 I mean, you're saying it doesn't happen.

00:31:29.000 I'm giving you examples.

00:31:31.000 The World Trade Center hit on the 11. The Pentagon hit on the 11. It doesn't happen.

00:31:36.000 When is it enough, sir?

00:31:38.000 When are we going to stop moving the goalposts?

00:31:39.000 When you're all done, Spurgeon, let me know and I can continue the argument.

00:31:42.000 We'll stay away from 9-11 out of respect. 0.76

00:31:45.000 Yeah, please.

00:31:45.000 I'd appreciate it.

00:31:46.000 I don't care.

00:31:47.000 I'm happy to get into it.

00:31:48.000 We have TOS. Anyway, so over on this...

00:31:53.000 This should encompass all aircraft, and let's just say we exempted it from war zones, like Gary says.

00:31:59.000 For some reason, the prime creator thinks in war zones, the numbers no longer apply correctly.

00:32:02.000 Now we have a new number set of some kind.

00:32:05.000 I don't know how that works exactly, but let's just assume that, too.

00:32:08.000 Gary says there's only 43 total accidents, which happened with airplanes, in 2024. Fatalities, sir.

00:32:16.000 Fatalities, sir.

00:32:17.000 What's that?

00:32:18.000 Fatalities.

00:32:19.000 Yeah, only 43 with fatalities.

00:32:21.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:32:22.000 We'll clarify.

00:32:22.000 So only 43 total with...

00:32:24.000 Don't pull up 200. So that would include non-commercial airlines, helicopters.

00:32:31.000 That would include all aerial aircraft going down, military or otherwise.

00:32:36.000 So he doesn't even give us the full data set.

00:32:38.000 He doesn't even give us the full 2024 data set.

00:32:41.000 There was way more than 43 airplanes that crashed that had fatalities, I guarantee, especially if you incorporate globally all military aircraft, it would have to be the case.

00:32:50.000 So since that's true, we don't even have a complete data set there.

00:32:54.000 On top of that, even the data set we do have is only for one year, and all it does is affirm a bias that Gary has.

00:33:00.000 It's not proof of anything, Gary.

00:33:01.000 So if we go back to the GDP of a country last year, it doesn't prove anything about the GDP of the country.

00:33:07.000 Is that what you're telling me?

00:33:09.000 No, it proves exactly what the GDP of the country was.

00:33:12.000 Exactly, so my statistics stand for what they are.

00:33:14.000 Let's move on, sir.

00:33:15.000 That's not an argument, though.

00:33:17.000 Like, you're saying if we go back and look at the numbers for the GDP, will it show us what the GDP was?

00:33:23.000 Well, sure.

00:33:24.000 If we go back and look at all 43 of these flights, could it show on the 11th and 29th that that's when the most of them went down?

00:33:30.000 Sure, but that doesn't tell us anything.

00:33:32.000 Wait a minute, it doesn't tell us anything.

00:33:33.000 It backs up my argument.

00:33:34.000 It doesn't tell us that it is the case.

00:33:36.000 That since aviation began on the 11th and 24th, every single year is when the most amount of aircraft go down.

00:33:44.000 That's your argument.

00:33:45.000 Ten years will not be enough.

00:33:46.000 He wants all the evidence, and then even that will be enough.

00:33:50.000 I know.

00:33:50.000 I want evidence.

00:33:51.000 But this is the same person who will say, believe in Jesus Christ, believe in my Lord and Savior, and he can't even give you an iota of the proof that I just did.

00:34:02.000 See how this works?

00:34:03.000 He wants to demand all the proof in the world, but he can't prove anything.

00:34:08.000 He can't even prove Jesus existed.

00:34:10.000 Well, so in this debate, I haven't made a single claim yet.

00:34:14.000 No, no, you believe in Jesus Christ.

00:34:15.000 All I've done is respond to claims which Gary has made.

00:34:20.000 You believe in Jesus Christ.

00:34:21.000 Gary, you'll get a chance to get into whatever claims you want with me, but I'm just saying right now...

00:34:27.000 These are claims you made that we're diving into.

00:34:31.000 My claims for 2024 are correct.

00:34:34.000 You want more analysis.

00:34:36.000 I gave you, and my analysis might be enough for the people watching.

00:34:40.000 They might be enough for the people who are listening to this right now.

00:34:43.000 If they're not enough for you, that's fine.

00:34:45.000 But what I'm trying to tell you is very simple.

00:34:47.000 I can provide evidence for what I believe in.

00:34:50.000 You can't provide iota.

00:34:54.000 Should we get into the Christianity thing?

00:34:57.000 Just real quick, because we're almost wrapped up.

00:34:59.000 I just want to be clear here, and then I'll give Gary the last word, and then we can move on.

00:35:05.000 Gary, we were very specific, and I got clarity on each claim.

00:35:08.000 So Gary's actual claim, and you guys can back this tape up as much as you want.

00:35:13.000 Since aviation began on the 11th and 29th...

00:35:16.000 Always those days are going to have the most aircraft crashes, regardless of the year since aviation started.

00:35:23.000 That's Gary's claim one.

00:35:25.000 Claim two, he did say, these are the days when it's the deadliest, right?

00:35:30.000 I disproved that immediately, so that's completely disproven.

00:35:34.000 How many people died on 9-11, sir?

00:35:35.000 And I demonstrated that by showing the day 17th, actually.

00:35:38.000 How many people died on 9-11, sir?

00:35:39.000 Okay, dude, I won't interrupt you when you're giving your clothes on this.

00:35:42.000 I won't interrupt you.

00:35:44.000 Just don't interrupt me.

00:35:44.000 So, anyway, the point is that I disproved that very quickly.

00:35:48.000 And then on top of that, using a single, imagine if we use, we could do this with almost anything.

00:35:53.000 We can use a set year announcement.

00:35:59.000 That's not how you do a statistical analysis.

00:36:01.000 Gary knows this.

00:36:02.000 Everybody knows this.

00:36:03.000 You would have to do a statistical analysis of such a bold claim of the 11th and 29th of each year by taking all commercial, military, aircraft, everything, combining them over each year and then determining that on these two days is when the most amount of those crashes happen.

00:36:17.000 Showing me a chart of 2024 or 43 crashes is just plain lazy and it doesn't prove shit.

00:36:23.000 The last I'll say on it.

00:36:24.000 That's your opinion.

00:36:25.000 And listen, now that we're going to get to the Christianity portion of this, I want people to understand the evidence I provided was real, but he didn't accept it because it wasn't enough.

00:36:35.000 But remember, I'm about to turn this on him.

00:36:38.000 And he won't be able to give me an iota, a shred of evidence that Christianity is real, Jesus Christ existed, a virgin gave birth to Jesus.

00:36:48.000 He won't be able to do any of it.

00:36:50.000 So now, my friend, I'm looking forward to this because you set your bar so high with mine.

00:36:56.000 Let's see how low you set it with yours, sir.

00:36:59.000 Alright, so we will move into the Christianity portion.

00:37:02.000 So what I'll do is I'll put, we got the timer on the bottom left here.

00:37:05.000 We'll put, you guys are still okay with open dialogue for four minutes on this topic?

00:37:10.000 And we can use as many rounds.

00:37:11.000 You guys want to go with Jesus. 0.54

00:37:14.000 What's your position on Jesus Christ?

00:37:16.000 Well, it's very simple.

00:37:18.000 When you look at the leftists, we look at them as crazy when they say there's more than two genders.

00:37:24.000 Because that's lunacy.

00:37:26.000 And I'm telling you, People who believe like me, look at their right wing, who believe a virgin gave birth to Jesus Christ the same way you look at those crazy lefties who believe, oh, there's more than two genders.

00:37:40.000 But real quick, Gary, I just want to know the topic of this.

00:37:42.000 Are we going to do...

00:37:43.000 The validity of Jesus Christ being born from a virgin.

00:37:49.000 All the fairy tales are in the Bible.

00:37:52.000 That's what we want to discuss.

00:37:53.000 Okay, just so we can stay concise here, because we can do the other stuff.

00:37:56.000 So, of course.

00:37:57.000 You're challenging the validity of him being born to a virgin Mary. 0.96

00:37:59.000 Of course.

00:38:00.000 Okay.

00:38:01.000 The foundation, yeah.

00:38:02.000 The foundation of that?

00:38:03.000 Yeah.

00:38:03.000 Basically.

00:38:04.000 Wait, which one?

00:38:05.000 Christianity itself.

00:38:06.000 He's challenging Christianity itself. 0.90

00:38:07.000 I mean, I want to keep it kind of specific so we can move on.

00:38:10.000 So, Virgin Mary.

00:38:11.000 Well, you can start with that, but there's a lot of ways we can go with it.

00:38:14.000 Sure, sure, sure.

00:38:14.000 But I want to go per topic so that it stays concise.

00:38:17.000 Of course.

00:38:17.000 So, you know, this is a guy who goes on your podcast.

00:38:20.000 He goes on whatever.

00:38:22.000 He talks down to bimbos and stuff. 1.00

00:38:24.000 If any of them told him that they were a virgin and they're pregnant, he'd say they're crazy.

00:38:29.000 But yet we're supposed to believe something that's in a 2,000-year-old book.

00:38:32.000 But go ahead.

00:38:33.000 Let's go.

00:38:35.000 We'll put the timer.

00:38:36.000 We'll put four minutes on here.

00:38:37.000 This will be back and forth.

00:38:39.000 Maybe five minutes.

00:38:40.000 I don't know because it's going to be between both of them.

00:38:43.000 Who wants to go first as far as he's making the assertion that he doesn't believe in it?

00:38:47.000 Andrew, do you want to go first?

00:38:50.000 Yeah, sure.

00:38:51.000 I can dive in real quick.

00:38:55.000 I'm going to kind of give you a very classical argument for this, Gary, just so that you have it.

00:39:01.000 It's written out.

00:39:03.000 There are six conditions that gives reason for us to accept the doctrine of Jesus Christ being born of a virgin.

00:39:09.000 Conditional one, the very fact the doctrine exists at all gives reason for accepting it.

00:39:13.000 There was something abnormal about its birth is a strong apostore argument for its basis.

00:39:20.000 If he had been born naturally by two parents, then nothing would be mentioned about it in the Bible, right?

00:39:24.000 There just wouldn't be any mention.

00:39:25.000 That would make no sense.

00:39:27.000 The character of nativity narrative provides cause for believing in doctrine because of the Jewish atmosphere of the narratives themselves. 0.63

00:39:34.000 Most scholars universally believe Jesus Christ existed, was a man.

00:39:39.000 I can give you the institutes which believe that Jesus Christ was a person, an actual person who existed.

00:39:47.000 This includes biblical scholars, classic historians, New Testament scholars, and Old Testament scholars.

00:39:54.000 The rest of the New Testament is silent about doctrine.

00:39:56.000 Had this teaching been invented, there might be more reason for writers to touch on it further, to argue for it.

00:40:02.000 Instead, they don't.

00:40:03.000 So the Church universally accepts this doctrine.

00:40:07.000 There's complete acceptance without hints of any other kind of explanation for the birth of Jesus, meaning since the foundation of Christianity, this has been the set foundation for it.

00:40:17.000 The idea that the eyewitnesses actually were present and that this was a determination made and that there's never been resistance to the foundation of this shows that there's good validity to be had that because this person existed, because there was clearly something special about his birth, and the eyewitnesses at the time are determining that there is something special about this birth and the doctrine canonically has gone on for 2,000 years, not disputing this

00:40:42.000 with alternatives, is very powerful evidence, Gary, that this could have happened.

00:40:48.000 Yes.

00:40:49.000 Very powerful evidence it could have happened.

00:40:51.000 Now, before you attack this and say things like...

00:40:55.000 Well, I want, you know, like I want something better than eyewitness testimony.

00:41:00.000 Well, just remember that most historic figures are based around eyewitness testimony.

00:41:04.000 Most.

00:41:05.000 Almost all.

00:41:06.000 Like Socrates, for instance.

00:41:07.000 Hang on, Gary, Gary.

00:41:09.000 It's my opening here.

00:41:11.000 Okay, so anyway, you'll see that Socrates, people like this.

00:41:20.000 of other people.

00:41:21.000 They never took pen to paper themselves, yet it's universally accepted that these figures existed because when scholars go back through and they run determination text, and we have eyewitness testimony of it from multitudes of different sources and dates, it's reasonable at that and we have eyewitness testimony of it from multitudes of different sources and dates, it's reasonable at that point Okay.

00:41:44.000 All right.

00:41:48.000 Witness counts of Bigfoot.

00:41:49.000 And they have, you know, books of Bigfoot.

00:41:52.000 I mean, based off what you're telling me, all you need is eyewitness people who say, oh, yo, and then they have to write in a book that they were eyewitnesses, and that's enough for you.

00:42:02.000 Actually, that makes my point for me.

00:42:04.000 Bigfoot is real based off the logic that you just told us, based off Jesus Christ.

00:42:08.000 So Bigfoot must be real, too.

00:42:10.000 Here, I'm going to explain this, because this logic actually is in my favor, not in yours.

00:42:16.000 I bet it is.

00:42:16.000 The Bible is the most investigated book in the history of all of mankind.

00:42:20.000 There's no book which has been more sold or more studied by more people than this book.

00:42:27.000 The thing about your Bigfoot claim that coincides with my claim is that because there was eyewitness testimony and physical evidences which were found, This was an investigated phenomenon.

00:42:39.000 People did begin to investigate it because it became credible.

00:42:42.000 The second, there was eyewitness testimony and evidences which were provided as to the credibility of the phenomenon.

00:42:48.000 That does not mean that Bigfoot existed, of course.

00:42:51.000 However, it does lead to evidences towards the investigation for the clarification.

00:42:56.000 So here's what happened.

00:42:57.000 When those things began to be investigated, they found guys in suits and guys making footprints and things like this.

00:43:02.000 So the investigated evidence didn't lead to the conclusion.

00:43:06.000 When Jesus Christ's investigated, evidence does lead to the conclusion that he did in fact exist.

00:43:12.000 He was in fact a man who existed, and he likely was crucified by Pontius Pilate.

00:43:17.000 That's powerful evidence, Gary.

00:43:18.000 Would any of that evidence stand up in the court of law?

00:43:22.000 Yeah, of course.

00:43:23.000 It would.

00:43:24.000 Eyewitness evidence always stands up in court of law.

00:43:26.000 What do you mean?

00:43:26.000 Well, eyewitnesses who are alive, sir.

00:43:30.000 Not people who are so-called eyewitnesses who are dead who people can't question, sir.

00:43:36.000 Well, no, that's completely incorrect.

00:43:38.000 So evidences are submitted to courts all the time from people who have passed away, which would lend credible evidence as to who their assaulter could have been, who their murderer may have been.

00:43:47.000 People leave behind diaries all the time, which are submitted into evidences into court.

00:43:50.000 They're not alive anymore.

00:43:51.000 But give credible evidences as to whether or not there could have been somebody who had a hand in foul play or fraud or any number of different things.

00:43:58.000 So on this, you're incorrect.

00:43:59.000 So you're telling me you can take the Bible to a court of law and basically prove it's real?

00:44:05.000 Is that what you're telling me?

00:44:06.000 No, that's not what I said, Gary.

00:44:08.000 What did I say?

00:44:08.000 I'm telling you, give me enough evidence that Jesus is real, because if you don't, sir, it's all fallacy.

00:44:16.000 What's the fallacy?

00:44:17.000 You cannot prove that a virgin had Jesus Christ, no matter how many eyewitnesses are written in a book that was written 2,500 years ago.

00:44:27.000 Do you understand the insanity here, sir?

00:44:29.000 You are basically acting like the leftists who say, yo, it's a miracle.

00:44:35.000 Believe me, there's eyewitnesses all over who believe in this.

00:44:39.000 You have to take them at its word.

00:44:41.000 What leftists are saying this about evidence?

00:44:44.000 What are you talking about?

00:44:45.000 The leftists are telling you there's more than two genders, sir. 0.94

00:44:48.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:44:50.000 You provide no evidence.

00:44:51.000 What does that have to do with anything we're talking about?

00:44:53.000 It's very simple, because this mental illness that you guys have, believing that a virgin had gave birth to Jesus Christ, where you know that's impossible.

00:45:03.000 It is literally impossible for a virgin to have a child.

00:45:12.000 That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

00:45:13.000 Unless you have artificial insemination.

00:45:15.000 It's not impossible for a virgin to have a child, bro.

00:45:18.000 It's not impossible.

00:45:19.000 What's the contradiction?

00:45:21.000 For something to be impossible has to be a contradiction.

00:45:23.000 What's a contradiction?

00:45:24.000 That a virgin can have a child when you just admitted a virgin can. 0.99

00:45:27.000 Some of those whores you talk to online tell you they're pregnant and they've never had sex. 1.00

00:45:32.000 You're going to believe them?

00:45:33.000 There have been women that I've talked to who've been inseminated while they were virgins.

00:45:38.000 Artificial insemination.

00:45:39.000 Correct.

00:45:40.000 But you have to have sex. 0.87

00:45:42.000 No, you don't have to have sex.

00:45:43.000 You can get it out of a condom.

00:45:44.000 You have to have semen. 0.99

00:45:46.000 Go inside an egg.

00:45:46.000 Yeah, you have to have semen.

00:45:47.000 That's true.

00:45:47.000 How is that possible without that process?

00:45:50.000 How is that possible, sir?

00:45:51.000 So, well, hang on.

00:45:53.000 So let's take it step by step.

00:45:55.000 You have to start, when you say a thing is impossible, what you have to understand what you're saying is that somewhere in there is a contradiction.

00:46:01.000 That's what would make it impossible.

00:46:03.000 From your metric, though, this is not impossible.

00:46:06.000 You're just saying it's improbable.

00:46:07.000 That's fine, and you can say it's improbable, or you're not convinced by the evidences which are put forward, even though, as far as a historic standard goes, there's good reason.

00:46:18.000 To believe that there's at least some kind of event around this which led to Jesus' credibility to begin with, that's why the credibility even exists in the first place.

00:46:26.000 There's no credibility there whatsoever.

00:46:27.000 So your idea, like the idea, hang on, the idea here that you can make the claim, I'm not convinced by the evidence, is fair.

00:46:35.000 The idea that you say there is no evidence is not fair.

00:46:38.000 So that's what my argument to you would be.

00:46:42.000 You can always say you're unconvinced by evidence.

00:46:45.000 Anybody can say that.

00:46:46.000 They can make up whatever standard they want.

00:46:48.000 I don't even know what standard of evidence Gary would accept.

00:46:51.000 I don't even know.

00:46:52.000 But you can always say that you remain unconvinced by evidence.

00:46:56.000 And that is, by the way, the atheist position.

00:46:58.000 They just say they remain unconvinced by the evidence.

00:47:01.000 Because I don't believe in your fairy tales.

00:47:02.000 That's fine, but you can't say there isn't any evidence.

00:47:05.000 That's a different claim altogether.

00:47:07.000 Because I don't believe in your fairy tales.

00:47:07.000 I'm an atheist.

00:47:08.000 I said I believe in prime creator.

00:47:10.000 I do not believe in your interpretation.

00:47:12.000 Could the prime creator make a woman pregnant who was a virgin? 0.98

00:47:15.000 No, of course not, because he doesn't interfere.

00:47:17.000 The prime creator never interferes.

00:47:19.000 And it's not Christ is king.

00:47:20.000 It's karma is king.

00:47:21.000 Because you have to understand, the real God never interferes.

00:47:26.000 He throws you in the deep end of the ocean into this evil planet and he sees and he tests you all the time.

00:47:32.000 Are you going to be a piece of shit just so you can have more money?

00:47:34.000 Are you going to cheat on your girl just because you have some pussy right here? 1.00

00:47:39.000 That's going to be tests.

00:47:40.000 They're going to be right in front of you over and over.

00:47:43.000 And guess what, sir?

00:47:45.000 Once you die, Then you're judged by your karma.

00:47:49.000 And that's how it actually works.

00:47:51.000 And then where do you go?

00:47:52.000 What you reap is what you sow.

00:47:54.000 I believe that's in the Bible.

00:47:55.000 But we'll talk about the Bible a little bit more in a second.

00:47:58.000 Yeah, sure.

00:47:58.000 So shall you reap as you sow.

00:48:01.000 That's karma right there.

00:48:02.000 Is that a good interpretation of it?

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 Well, no, not really.

00:48:05.000 Okay, I'm asking you.

00:48:06.000 Yeah, what they're talking about, they're talking about basically the spirit in that case.

00:48:12.000 They're saying, like, you can grow rotten things out of the ground.

00:48:15.000 Right?

00:48:16.000 That are rotten because they don't have, like, any spiritual guidance or they're spiritually sick or things like that.

00:48:22.000 It's not actually giving a karma base of, like, if you do bad things, bad things will happen to you.

00:48:27.000 That's not really what that means.

00:48:29.000 You don't believe that?

00:48:30.000 If you do bad things, bad things?

00:48:32.000 That karma exists?

00:48:32.000 No.

00:48:33.000 No?

00:48:33.000 Okay.

00:48:33.000 No.

00:48:34.000 So everything's according to the good Lord to you, correct?

00:48:39.000 What do you mean?

00:48:40.000 Well, I mean, you're a Christian, so you live everything according to the Bible, correct?

00:48:43.000 I live everything according to Christian ethics, yes.

00:48:46.000 Christian ethics.

00:48:46.000 Okay, so would you agree that the type of person you are and the type of life you have lived would say a lot about how good of a Christian you are?

00:48:57.000 Well, I mean, sure.

00:48:58.000 I think that you...

00:49:00.000 So Christian ethics is somewhat complex, but it's also overly simplified.

00:49:04.000 And I'll give you the oversimplified version.

00:49:07.000 So Christian ethics is taking a combination of virtues and duties... 0.75

00:49:12.000 And then the teachings of Jesus Christ is combining them to the outlook of the follower of Jesus Christ.

00:49:17.000 So we know what we ought to do, what we should not do, what forgiveness is, what forgiveness isn't, why you need church authority, normative authority to guide you, etc., etc., etc.

00:49:27.000 So Christian ethics, and that's kind of my domain, that's kind of the purview of what that is.

00:49:34.000 But each individual case for each individual person is somewhat different because Christianity exists in what's called pluralism.

00:49:41.000 So let me give you an example.

00:49:43.000 If you lived in Japan, the way that you would honor your mother and father would be different than the way you lived in the United States, right?

00:49:49.000 You would have to honor them differently based on the cultural customs.

00:49:52.000 So that's what pluralism would be.

00:49:55.000 You still have to honor them in Christianity.

00:49:57.000 However, based on the cultural dynamics that you're in, there could be multiple ways to honor them, which would still fit inside of the dimension of you adhering to the principle.

00:50:07.000 That would be Christian ethics.

00:50:08.000 Okay.

00:50:09.000 And what are the ethics of remarrying women that were married before?

00:50:16.000 Well, what do you mean?

00:50:18.000 Well, I mean, you know, say a man, a woman was married to a man, then she was divorced, she was married to another man, then divorced, then she remarried again.

00:50:26.000 What are the Christian ethics of that?

00:50:28.000 Yeah, so what the doctrine says is that there's good reasons for divorce, and this is outlined by Paul, and this is also outlined by Jesus Christ himself, and then Paul really gave the full outline.

00:50:43.000 So things like addiction.

00:50:45.000 Abandonment, things like this are completely reasonable terms for divorce or extensive physical abuse.

00:50:54.000 Those would be fair terms for divorce under church doctrine and ecclesiastical authority.

00:50:58.000 Okay.

00:50:59.000 And this is a situation that you have dealt with and your father has dealt with.

00:51:04.000 I've watched the videos about you when you talked about how your father had multiple wives and you're of the same, you know, just like him, had multiple wives too, correct?

00:51:15.000 Well, yeah, that's true.

00:51:17.000 Okay, so you took vows and you broke them.

00:51:20.000 Is that very Christian of you?

00:51:21.000 No, I didn't break any vows.

00:51:23.000 Oh, no?

00:51:23.000 You have two people.

00:51:25.000 Two people who exist.

00:51:26.000 For one thing, I would say this is outside the purview of the debate.

00:51:29.000 I don't think so.

00:51:30.000 We both agreed how a man lives his life.

00:51:33.000 Gary, I'm willing to engage.

00:51:35.000 Gary, calm down.

00:51:36.000 I'm willing to engage with it.

00:51:37.000 I'm willing to engage with it.

00:51:38.000 Calm down.

00:51:39.000 We'll have to go to time rounds here.

00:51:41.000 Calm down.

00:51:42.000 Are you saying that a divorce, that a divorce under grounds of abandonment or addiction or things like this...

00:51:51.000 That those are not within the Christian purview of Christian ethics?

00:51:54.000 Well, I would say that, you know, when people make those statements, sometimes they lie.

00:51:59.000 You know, Christians have a habit of lying, as you know, in our last debate. 1.00

00:52:03.000 So, you know, just because they say something about...

00:52:05.000 If you're claiming I'm lying, that's fine.

00:52:09.000 I just would like the proof.

00:52:11.000 Well, I mean, you're taking care of another man's kids, aren't you?

00:52:15.000 And the proof that I've done anything wrong is?

00:52:17.000 Well, the proof is that you took an oath to a wife and basically you broke that vow.

00:52:23.000 No, I didn't.

00:52:24.000 And now you're with a different woman.

00:52:26.000 First of all, I was a secularist, essentially.

00:52:29.000 I had a courthouse wedding.

00:52:30.000 That's one.

00:52:31.000 And two, well, I won't even get into all the details.

00:52:34.000 They're not even important.

00:52:35.000 Oh, yes, they are.

00:52:36.000 The thing is, is like...

00:52:37.000 Gary, it was completely appropriate to have such a divorce, one.

00:52:43.000 And two, same thing with my wife. 1.00

00:52:44.000 She was abandoned.

00:52:45.000 Like, what do you want?

00:52:46.000 By the way, it would be the most Christian, as far as Christian ethics, it's the most Christian thing to do to take care of the people who are around you.

00:52:56.000 For instance, if your brother died or something like this...

00:53:01.000 Wouldn't she take care of his kids? 0.99

00:53:02.000 That's a false narrative.

00:53:03.000 No one died here.

00:53:04.000 Wouldn't she take care of his kids? 0.99

00:53:05.000 No, what happened is another man...

00:53:07.000 Left your wife, and now you're taking care of them. 0.90

00:53:10.000 So is that what you're telling us about?

00:53:12.000 What's immoral about that, Gary?

00:53:14.000 Is that what a good Christian is?

00:53:16.000 Yeah, what's immoral about that?

00:53:17.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:53:18.000 I'm asking if that's good Christian values.

00:53:19.000 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it.

00:53:21.000 There absolutely is Christian values.

00:53:23.000 Like, what's wrong with that?

00:53:24.000 So taking care of another man's kid, simping his Christian values in your book. 0.76

00:53:27.000 Guys, guys, guys.

00:53:28.000 Yes, taking care of people's kids, especially if they don't have a father.

00:53:32.000 You heard it here, folks.

00:53:33.000 Guys, guys, we've deviated from the Jesus Christ discussion with the Virgin Mary.

00:53:37.000 You guys want to move on to ethics now?

00:53:39.000 This is ethics.

00:53:40.000 This is what do people stand by and what they believe in.

00:53:44.000 I'm fine with this, Myron.

00:53:45.000 He can continue the inquiry.

00:53:46.000 Okay, so this is what we'll do.

00:53:48.000 If we're going to go ahead and suspend the debate on the Virgin Mary and et cetera, we'll move on.

00:53:54.000 Yeah, we're going to do time limits now.

00:53:56.000 We're going to put...

00:53:56.000 Are you guys okay with three or four minutes on the clock?

00:53:59.000 Whatever he likes, man.

00:54:01.000 Which one do you prefer, Andrew?

00:54:02.000 Three or four?

00:54:02.000 We'll just do three minutes.

00:54:03.000 It's fine.

00:54:04.000 So we'll do three minutes.

00:54:05.000 I'm going to give it to Gary because you brought up this topic of his wife.

00:54:10.000 We're moving on from the Virgin Mary conversation.

00:54:12.000 And then we'll go three minutes uninterrupted.

00:54:14.000 Each person can make their argument.

00:54:15.000 And then, you know, if you can see, then I'll bring it back to him.

00:54:17.000 And then we can do it as many rounds as you guys need.

00:54:19.000 But go ahead.

00:54:20.000 Well, it basically goes like this, man.

00:54:23.000 If you're going to preach about Christianity and you're going to preach to others about what a good Christian is and how people should become Christians, then the way you live your life has a lot to do with it because you basically have to do what you preach.

00:54:37.000 Or you're a fraud!

00:54:38.000 So here's what it comes down to, man.

00:54:41.000 If you already made vows to a woman... 0.96

00:54:44.000 And you broke them, and now you're with a different woman.

00:54:47.000 A lot of Christians would consider that adultery.

00:54:49.000 Quite frankly, your wife, and again, I have nothing against her.

00:54:53.000 This has nothing to do with her personally.

00:54:55.000 But the fact of the matter is, she has kids from two different men.

00:54:59.000 Two different people she took vows to and said, I will love you forever.

00:55:04.000 And she has kids from those people's marriages. 0.50

00:55:07.000 Now, you always talk about a nuclear family, sir.

00:55:10.000 What kind of nuclear family is this?

00:55:12.000 The nuclear family is the bedrock.

00:55:14.000 Hold on, sir.

00:55:15.000 The nuclear family is the bedrock of society.

00:55:18.000 A mom, a dad, kids.

00:55:21.000 Not a Brady Bunch.

00:55:22.000 Not an ex-wife and an ex-husband.

00:55:25.000 They get a whole bunch of kids from different marriages together and they think everything's going to be kumbaya.

00:55:30.000 This is what destroys society from within.

00:55:33.000 So if you actually want to be a good Christian or a good Muslim or a good anything, pick the right one. 1.00

00:55:41.000 The first time.

00:55:42.000 Now, I'm going to make this clear.

00:55:44.000 I'm a numerologist.

00:55:46.000 I'm not divorced like you, brother.

00:55:48.000 I'm not divorced like your woman because I picked my woman based off numerology and astrology. 1.00

00:55:54.000 Come up here, baby.

00:55:55.000 We're going to make this abundantly clear, okay?

00:55:58.000 When it comes down to it, you have to understand.

00:56:01.000 That numerology and astrology is supreme.

00:56:05.000 Numerology and astrology will tell you if you're picking the right woman or the right man if you're a woman. 1.00

00:56:11.000 Not this Christian nonsense. 1.00

00:56:13.000 You've already failed, sir.

00:56:15.000 She has failed twice.

00:56:16.000 You have failed once.

00:56:18.000 Who knows?

00:56:18.000 Maybe you've got another fail in the future.

00:56:20.000 I don't know.

00:56:21.000 But all I know is I've been married to my baby for 20 years.

00:56:24.000 And everything we do is based off numerology and astrology.

00:56:28.000 And last point.

00:56:30.000 I'm not raising someone else's kids as a numerologist.

00:56:33.000 You are as a Christian.

00:56:35.000 I yield my time.

00:56:37.000 Alright, we'll put three minutes on the clock.

00:56:39.000 It seems like this debate is more on ethics and...

00:56:42.000 Personal.

00:56:43.000 Personal ethics.

00:56:44.000 Yeah, I guess.

00:56:45.000 At this point, yeah.

00:56:46.000 Andrew, we've got three minutes on the clock for you so you can rebut that.

00:56:49.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

00:56:50.000 Yeah, so anyway, Jesus Christ himself had a stepfather.

00:56:54.000 I don't know why you think this is a dunk.

00:56:58.000 Yes, of course, the ethical thing and the ethical purview to do is to try to take care and assist people who can't assist themselves.

00:57:06.000 There's nothing within Christian ethics or Christian virtues which disallow from you marrying a woman who has children from previous marriages.

00:57:15.000 There's nothing there which, dude, I didn't interrupt you.

00:57:18.000 Don't interrupt me.

00:57:19.000 None of that disallows it.

00:57:21.000 Okay, so I don't even know where you're coming up with this.

00:57:23.000 I think that what you've done is you've conflated me with, like, some kind of red pill bro, and you think that I'm some red pill content creator, but I'm not.

00:57:31.000 No.

00:57:31.000 I follow the ideals.

00:57:35.000 Stop talking, dude.

00:57:36.000 Stop talking.

00:57:37.000 You can't seem to help us burn.

00:57:40.000 Add 15 seconds for Andrew, please.

00:57:42.000 Yeah, within the purview of Christian ethics, not only am I not doing anything wrong, but I'm doing everything wrong.

00:57:46.000 All you're doing is affirming I'm a good man.

00:57:48.000 You're like, Andrew's a good man and takes care of people.

00:57:51.000 Oh, I know.

00:57:51.000 Terrible fucking Christian.

00:57:53.000 Awful.

00:57:54.000 I don't even know how this is a dunk.

00:57:56.000 What you're also trying to do is you're also trying to placate ego and materialism by saying, look, I bought this chick for, you know, 100 bucks from whatever Boom Boom country bought her from. 0.54

00:58:06.000 And we have this wonderful, great marriage.

00:58:09.000 And, you know, I'm not raising anybody else's kids and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:58:13.000 I'm a numerologist.

00:58:14.000 Buy my shit.

00:58:15.000 Buy my product.

00:58:16.000 I never said that.

00:58:17.000 I never said anything about buying anything, did I? I don't know why you're interrupting me again.

00:58:20.000 Why do you keep interrupting me, bro?

00:58:22.000 Don't worry.

00:58:23.000 We're giving you an extra 20 seconds.

00:58:24.000 It's my turn.

00:58:24.000 You're good.

00:58:25.000 So the thing is, is like for you to just say, well, what you're doing is anti-Christian.

00:58:30.000 There's nothing anti-Christian about it.

00:58:33.000 This is an old criticism.

00:58:35.000 It never done anything to hurt me a bit.

00:58:37.000 Most people have mixed families these days because, unfortunately, we had to go through the boomer generation, Gen X, this type of thing. 1.00

00:58:43.000 You're dealt the hand that you're dealt.

00:58:45.000 People have stepfathers.

00:58:46.000 They love their stepfathers.

00:58:47.000 People have stepmothers. 1.00

00:58:48.000 They love their stepmothers. 0.98

00:58:50.000 It happens this way sometimes.

00:58:51.000 Is it optimal for society?

00:58:53.000 No.

00:58:53.000 Does it lead to a massive amount of degeneracy?

00:58:56.000 Ultimately, if this is something which is a goal, this is, in other words, something you're pushing society towards, of course.

00:59:02.000 That has nothing to do with the personal situation of an individual person or individual circumstances, each of which should be assessed on their own merits within the confines of Christian ethics.

00:59:11.000 So the only reason, by the way, you brought this in as a personal attack, and I understand why.

00:59:16.000 Most of my critics usually will do this after they've lost a debate with me.

00:59:19.000 And that's exactly what's happening now, just like it happened before.

00:59:22.000 When I lose the debate.

00:59:24.000 Is that it, Andrew?

00:59:26.000 That's it.

00:59:26.000 Okay.

00:59:27.000 All right.

00:59:27.000 You had a little bit of extra time.

00:59:28.000 We'll turn it back to you, Gary.

00:59:30.000 I'll put three minutes on the clock.

00:59:31.000 So let's get started, man.

00:59:33.000 We have a man here who failed in his first marriage.

00:59:37.000 And again, this is a devout Christian man.

00:59:40.000 And he married someone who has kids from two different men.

00:59:46.000 So he's trying to tell you this is being a good Christian.

00:59:49.000 This is being a good simp.

00:59:51.000 Okay?

00:59:52.000 This is exactly what it is.

00:59:54.000 This man is a simp, and he's trying to use religion as a clutch and a cope to cope for a simp. 0.72

01:00:01.000 Sir, I never confuse you for red pill.

01:00:03.000 A red pill would never have someone like your wife who's been with two different men raising different kids, okay? 0.65

01:00:09.000 So let's not have anyone confuse anyone with red pill here.

01:00:12.000 You are a grifter.

01:00:13.000 You are a religious grifter who is using it as a clutch to get people on your side, to get other Christians to like you. 0.90

01:00:21.000 Because even though I'm accused of being in a cult, the actual biggest cult in the world is Christianity.

01:00:27.000 2.3 billion people in this cult.

01:00:32.000 But remember what this man just showed you.

01:00:35.000 He can't prove Jesus is real by any stretch of the imagination.

01:00:38.000 All he can tell you is, oh, well, if a whole bunch of people agree on something, that must be real.

01:00:43.000 Okay, sir.

01:00:44.000 Use that logic the same way you talk to women. 1.00

01:00:46.000 This man will go on the whatever podcast.

01:00:49.000 This man will go on Fresh and Fit and call people cucks when he's a sip himself taking care of other people.

01:00:55.000 This is basically what he is.

01:00:58.000 He's the fraud.

01:00:59.000 He's been proving what he is.

01:01:01.000 And at the end of the day, sir, this is what numerology got me, brother.

01:01:05.000 You can say all you want, bro.

01:01:07.000 This is a 40-year-old woman. 0.87

01:01:09.000 You want to compare what Christianity got you to what numerology got me?

01:01:14.000 This is fact, sir.

01:01:16.000 So again, you're a joke.

01:01:17.000 You're being made to look like a joke right now.

01:01:20.000 So you can keep simping with Christianity. 0.94

01:01:22.000 You can keep grifting it.

01:01:24.000 At the end of the day, sir, you go home.

01:01:27.000 To a ran-through woman with a whole bunch of different kids, and that's what you are. 1.00

01:01:33.000 That's what your legacy is.

01:01:35.000 So keep praying, brother, because they ain't gonna help you.

01:01:38.000 I'll finish with this.

01:01:41.000 2,000 years, Christians have been saying, Jesus is coming back.

01:01:47.000 That means tens of billions of people alive.

01:01:51.000 Have basically thought that Jesus is coming back in their lifetimes.

01:01:55.000 That means tens of billions of people died fools.

01:01:59.000 Jesus ain't coming back.

01:02:00.000 I can't prove he didn't exist.

01:02:03.000 I will give that to you.

01:02:04.000 I can't prove he didn't exist.

01:02:06.000 But you and everyone like you can't prove he did.

01:02:12.000 In closing, my wife came here on a work visa. 0.98

01:02:16.000 I found her 20 years ago.

01:02:18.000 I looked at her birthday.

01:02:20.000 I said, loyal woman who's going to be good at raising kids, and that's exactly what she does. 1.00

01:02:27.000 Because, you know what, maybe to you it doesn't matter that you raise kids that don't look like you.

01:02:32.000 To me, it does.

01:02:33.000 We ain't the same, bro.

01:02:36.000 All right, I'll put three minutes on the clock.

01:02:38.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:02:39.000 Andrew, yeah, I guess this will be the last one on this round, I'm guessing, and then what was the next topic that you guys want to hit with Christianity?

01:02:46.000 Yeah, do you?

01:02:46.000 Okay, so now you guys, I did not interrupt Gary even once, right?

01:02:51.000 Yeah, and don't worry, if he interrupts, you will add time to your clock, so you're okay.

01:02:54.000 So imagine the yarmulke-wearing subversive over here pretending that he has kids that look like him.

01:03:03.000 I'm sorry, sir.

01:03:04.000 I just want to point out to you, the woman you're with, not the same distinguishing phenotypical characteristics that you have.

01:03:13.000 So I don't know what fun you're talking about, first of all.

01:03:15.000 Did I interrupt you even once, Gary?

01:03:17.000 Stop spurging, Gary.

01:03:18.000 Calm down, Gary.

01:03:19.000 That's one.

01:03:20.000 Two, you're not rich.

01:03:22.000 You're a fucking fraud.

01:03:23.000 You've been a fraud for years, and I have lists of all of the frauds in which you've conducted.

01:03:28.000 Which include your fake rings, which include your fake ties to the Trump administration, which you do not have.

01:03:34.000 You do not have ties to the Trump administration.

01:03:38.000 That's a lie.

01:03:39.000 How do I know?

01:03:40.000 Well, it's pretty easy to deduce because the people who are in the Trump administration have no fucking clue who you are, Gary, and they're definitely not taking numerological advice from you.

01:03:50.000 That's for damn sure.

01:03:52.000 On top of all of this, all that you have done is say, Andrew, Because I can't defeat your arguments, I'm going to attack the fact that 20 years ago, or 15, or whatever it is, you married a woman who had kids.

01:04:08.000 So fucking what?

01:04:09.000 That's not outside of the purview of Christian ethics, one.

01:04:12.000 Doesn't prove anything.

01:04:13.000 And then two, you also say that I preach.

01:04:15.000 I don't preach.

01:04:16.000 I'm not a preacher.

01:04:17.000 I've never preached.

01:04:18.000 I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

01:04:20.000 I'm a debater, I debate worldviews, and I debate subversive worldviews especially, but I don't preach to anybody.

01:04:27.000 I don't know where the fuck you even came up with that.

01:04:30.000 I don't have a ministry, and I don't want one.

01:04:32.000 I'm sure I could have one, but I don't want a ministry.

01:04:35.000 On top of all of this, your claims are actually quite weak, right?

01:04:40.000 The only thing that you can say is like, Well, if you have stepkids, you're a cuck.

01:04:44.000 That would encompass so many people, it's unbelievable.

01:04:47.000 And also, logically, you would have to take the next step that if you adopted, you were a cuck, right?

01:04:51.000 Which makes no fucking sense at all.

01:04:53.000 If you were to take care of kids from like a brother or sister who died, you would equally be a cuck.

01:04:59.000 Like all of these things, you would have to give a semantic distinction why it's a different thing, right?

01:05:05.000 Being a step-parent is not evil, Gary.

01:05:08.000 Now, when you're talking about optimals for society, I can talk about what's optimal.

01:05:12.000 It is optimal to be in an intact nuclear family.

01:05:15.000 Who would know that better than somebody who wasn't in one? 0.54

01:05:18.000 You're saying that a person who wasn't in a nuclear family could never give a descriptor that being in a nuclear family was better?

01:05:25.000 That's fucking stupid.

01:05:26.000 That's dumb.

01:05:27.000 That's like saying that former drug addicts can't tell people that drugs are bad.

01:05:31.000 Like, of course they can, and those are the people you want to say it more than anyone.

01:05:35.000 So I don't understand even the logic here.

01:05:37.000 It makes no sense.

01:05:39.000 But on top of all of that, all of that would be forgivable, okay?

01:05:42.000 All of it would be forgivable.

01:05:44.000 If it weren't the case, I know you're just as subversive.

01:05:48.000 That's it.

01:05:49.000 And the only reason you're upset with me is because I'm vastly popular, and I'm going to continue to be vastly popular while you nip on my heels and fucking ex.

01:05:56.000 Like the fat, pathetic loser that you are, Gary.

01:05:59.000 There's nothing that you're going to be able to do about that.

01:06:02.000 And the reason is, is because I am superior at debate.

01:06:05.000 I'm superior at politics.

01:06:07.000 And I have literally found you out and shown people that you are indeed a grifting fraud.

01:06:15.000 And your numerology that you continuously claim has made you rich and has made you this and has made you that.

01:06:21.000 Well, that's a fraud too.

01:06:22.000 When you are put on the spot.

01:06:25.000 For your actual numerological takes, they don't even amount to anything.

01:06:29.000 Like when you're talking about airplanes and this and that, 43 accidents, this is all bullshit.

01:06:34.000 And people who watch this, even if they walk away thinking, that guy Andrew, what a scumbag because he has stepkids, right?

01:06:42.000 Or there was divorces in their past, right?

01:06:44.000 Even if they all walked away thinking that, none of them are walking away believing in your fucking bullshit numerology, Gary.

01:06:51.000 Not a problem.

01:06:52.000 Let's put four minutes on the clock for Gary.

01:06:54.000 Andrew went over there, but it's fine.

01:06:55.000 I didn't want to interrupt.

01:06:56.000 Did you guys want to continue on with this or move to the next?

01:06:59.000 Let me respond and then we can move on.

01:07:01.000 Hold on, I wrote it down.

01:07:05.000 Gary went first.

01:07:05.000 Yeah, Gary went first on this one.

01:07:06.000 I need to respond to this.

01:07:07.000 Okay, whoever goes first gets the last.

01:07:09.000 I need to respond to this.

01:07:11.000 Okay, let's start like this.

01:07:13.000 You're pretty good at your refresh.

01:07:15.000 You know what's real.

01:07:16.000 Does that look like a fake ring to you?

01:07:18.000 And you're a vast expert opinion.

01:07:20.000 The weight is definitely there, but I would need a machine to verify everything, but it looks pretty real to me.

01:07:25.000 Okay, let's start with that.

01:07:27.000 Fresh, I never claimed that I know Donald Trump personally, did I? No.

01:07:32.000 Okay, did I say for about three, four months straight, I'm going to get you in Trump's inauguration?

01:07:38.000 Yes.

01:07:39.000 And was that a very difficult ticket to get?

01:07:42.000 Yes, I think 15. Myron, when you were in D.C. with me, did I not offer to take you to Trump's inauguration?

01:07:48.000 Yeah.

01:07:49.000 Did I not have the tickets with me?

01:07:50.000 You did.

01:07:51.000 Okay.

01:07:52.000 So, again, I never said I know Donald Trump personally.

01:07:55.000 I said I know people in his administration, which is what I do.

01:07:59.000 And I got Liberty Ball tickets, which, sir, you might be a political commentator, but you weren't there.

01:08:05.000 At least I didn't see you there.

01:08:06.000 Fresh, did you see him there?

01:08:07.000 I didn't see him there.

01:08:08.000 But I saw a lot of people who actually mattered, but not you.

01:08:11.000 So just the fact of the matter is, because I could actually get people at events, sometimes people who other people don't even want there, I can still get them in because I got pulled like that.

01:08:23.000 So you might not believe it, but quite frankly, you don't matter.

01:08:26.000 I got a bigger TikTok than you.

01:08:28.000 I got a bigger YouTube than you.

01:08:30.000 And by the way, I might be catching your heroes on X, which is because I've been suspended 24 times.

01:08:36.000 I would have had half a billion followers.

01:08:38.000 It was taken from me.

01:08:39.000 So, congratulations.

01:08:40.000 You beat me on an app that got me 24 times.

01:08:43.000 Bravo, brother.

01:08:44.000 Bravo.

01:08:45.000 Now, this man basically attacked my character.

01:08:48.000 Here's the thing.

01:08:50.000 I don't care if he believes in numerology.

01:08:52.000 He's a pleb. 1.00

01:08:53.000 Okay?

01:08:54.000 I don't expect to win the debates in the comment.

01:08:58.000 I'm a Jew.

01:08:58.000 Okay?

01:08:59.000 Let's face it, man.

01:09:00.000 I'm not going to win any debates in the comment area.

01:09:03.000 I'm the dreidel spinner.

01:09:05.000 We know that.

01:09:05.000 So I'm going to take an automatic L in the comments.

01:09:08.000 It is what it is.

01:09:09.000 Okay?

01:09:09.000 So let's keep it real.

01:09:11.000 We're not going to judge it based off that.

01:09:13.000 But here's the thing, my friend.

01:09:16.000 I might be a dreidel spinner, but I married a virgin.

01:09:20.000 What about you, my friend?

01:09:22.000 Did your Christian values get you a virgin?

01:09:25.000 Or someone who has ran through with kids?

01:09:27.000 That's what the people here who are watching this debate need to think.

01:09:31.000 Is his way of living better?

01:09:33.000 Or he has a woman who has kids from different men who he's raising?

01:09:38.000 Or is my way of life better?

01:09:40.000 My kids actually do look like me, sir.

01:09:43.000 Because the fact of the matter is, I would never marry an American whore. 1.00

01:09:49.000 You did.

01:09:50.000 I would never subject myself.

01:09:53.000 And guys, if you're out there, these American women are no good. 1.00

01:09:56.000 Just like Lenny Kravitz said, American women, stay the hell away from me. 1.00

01:10:02.000 This is why I married a Muslim woman.

01:10:05.000 Because Muslim women have low body counts. 1.00

01:10:09.000 Your Christian women are, you know, have more miles on it than the 1979 Mazda, bro. 1.00

01:10:16.000 So you gotta be real, real careful if you're gonna go down this Christian route, because the Christian women, especially in the UK, America, all the Western society, they're cooked! 1.00

01:10:28.000 Just like this motherfucker is cooked! 1.00

01:10:30.000 Coming home, the kids don't even look like him.

01:10:33.000 Yeah, you're better to be.

01:10:34.000 In what fucking world, pal?

01:10:36.000 Alright, um...

01:10:39.000 Yeah, yeah, I guess, unless Andrew has something that you want to go, then we want to sponsor you.

01:10:43.000 So, Christianity is not about the embrace of materialism.

01:10:46.000 Of course it's not.

01:10:47.000 The idea that you think that happiness comes from something as vacant as pure materialism actually shows why the epistemology that I hold is superior.

01:11:00.000 You would have to admit that just because you have money...

01:11:04.000 That does not make you happy or content in life.

01:11:08.000 And that the form that you have of epistemic nihilism actually leads to a purposeless life.

01:11:14.000 For you, you say, even if, like you say, everybody walks away with your claims and says, you're right, this Andrew guy, you know, this whole stepfather thing, this is bullshit.

01:11:25.000 But the thing is, is like, just break it down logically.

01:11:28.000 Let's say for a second I had no stepkids and married a virgin.

01:11:31.000 Let's just say.

01:11:32.000 What would Gary's arguments then against me be?

01:11:36.000 Nothing.

01:11:37.000 His arguments would be nothing.

01:11:38.000 Because it would not prove numerology real.

01:11:43.000 Nor Christianity false. 0.94

01:11:45.000 It also would not prove anything about my worldview being false.

01:11:48.000 It does nothing to advance the cause of what I'm actually saying or whether it's false or whether it's true.

01:11:54.000 The reason that this is the attack vector is because Gary's stupid enough to believe that Christians are going to go, even though it's well within the purview of Christian ethics.

01:12:06.000 The only thing you could say that I did wrong was that...

01:12:10.000 I took care of people who needed a father in their life.

01:12:13.000 Like, what the fuck did I do wrong, Gary?

01:12:15.000 What was so terrible about me doing that, Gary?

01:12:18.000 Gary doesn't know.

01:12:19.000 He just thinks it's a dunk to say, ah, two, three baby daddies, ah, divorce, ah, oi, oi!

01:12:26.000 But the thing is, is like, Gary, ultimately, it doesn't matter.

01:12:30.000 You haven't disproven a single position that I have.

01:12:32.000 Right?

01:12:33.000 And even if my entire personal life was a fucking mess and I was a broken down, broke alcoholic like you want everybody to believe, you still haven't disproven a single fucking claim I've made.

01:12:42.000 Not one!

01:12:43.000 And I've disproven multiple of yours.

01:12:45.000 So ultimately, if you think that people are going to walk away with already public information that already everybody knows because I already talked about all of this on the very program you're on right this second, well good luck Gary.

01:12:59.000 I don't know what it did for you though.

01:13:01.000 I don't know what it does for you.

01:13:03.000 You know, basically, you know, proving someone's a fraud, proving that someone who goes on other podcasts and talks shit to women calling other men cucks when he's a simp himself taking care of other people's kids, that's who you are.

01:13:14.000 That's not what a cuck is, Gary.

01:13:15.000 That's who you are, sir.

01:13:16.000 I didn't even call you a cuck.

01:13:17.000 I said you're a simp.

01:13:19.000 So what would be the problem with me calling to other men who are cucks and simps? 0.99

01:13:25.000 And you're a simp yourself, sir!

01:13:27.000 This is not what people like.

01:13:28.000 I don't understand.

01:13:29.000 If you call someone a cuck, that has meaning.

01:13:31.000 People are not watching this program thinking, I want to be like Andrew Wilson.

01:13:34.000 Quite frankly, maybe we should change your name to Joseph.

01:13:37.000 I don't ask.

01:13:38.000 That biblical name fits you a lot better.

01:13:41.000 I don't ask.

01:13:42.000 Do you think, Gary, do you think...

01:13:44.000 that people follow me because they want to model themselves after my personal life?

01:13:48.000 I would hope not.

01:13:49.000 No, they follow me because I make compelling and good arguments on behalf of a very coherent worldview and destroy leftists and scumbags and lunatics all over the Internet, like yourself, and destroy their entire worldview, crush their epistemology, and prove exactly what they are.

01:14:06.000 Even if my entire personal life was a disaster and I was a secret degen who did all sorts of horrible things.

01:14:13.000 It would not disprove any of my positions, Gary!

01:14:17.000 Well, you can laugh all you want, but I think the people are laughing at you, Cuck.

01:14:21.000 Okay.

01:14:22.000 Oh, now I thought I was a Cuck a second ago.

01:14:24.000 Now I am.

01:14:25.000 Let's talk about...

01:14:26.000 Christian women versus Muslim women versus Jewish women. 0.89

01:14:30.000 Let's go down the road because let's see what kind of values these women have. 1.00

01:14:35.000 Before we do that, are you cool with that, Andrew?

01:14:37.000 You want to go down and have a debate, I guess, on...

01:14:39.000 We're talking about maybe the chastity of the different groups.

01:14:41.000 Of course.

01:14:42.000 Sure.

01:14:44.000 We can dive into it.

01:14:45.000 Absolutely.

01:14:46.000 I'll start.

01:14:47.000 You'll start?

01:14:47.000 Okay.

01:14:48.000 Three minutes on the clock.

01:14:50.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:14:50.000 Sorry, Gary.

01:14:51.000 One of the things I'm most proud of in life was I married a non-American woman.

01:14:59.000 Because basically growing up in America, I seen what they are.

01:15:03.000 They're ran through.

01:15:05.000 I want nothing to do with these type of women. 1.00

01:15:07.000 Okay?

01:15:08.000 This is what I'm trying to tell you men out there.

01:15:10.000 You want a foreign woman who doesn't have these values. 1.00

01:15:15.000 And but...

01:15:16.000 If America is a so-called Christian nation and the UK is a Christian nation and Canada and Australia, all of this Western society where all these women wear their crosses and then have the OnlyFans, we are to deduce that Christianity is either, one, a failure, or two, leads women to become whores. 0.99

01:15:38.000 One of the reasons I married a Muslim woman...

01:15:41.000 It's not because I believe in Allah or their Quran or any nonsense like that.

01:15:46.000 It's because I know that Muslim men have something called honor killings. 1.00

01:15:52.000 I know that Muslim men have something.

01:15:55.000 They will protect the virtue of their women.

01:15:58.000 Which is why I knew that if I picked a woman, it was always going to be a Muslim woman. 0.99

01:16:04.000 Because to me, Andrew, maybe not to you, Joseph, but to me...

01:16:09.000 A virgin was very important.

01:16:11.000 I wanted to know I was the only one in there.

01:16:13.000 Okay?

01:16:14.000 Maybe that's not important to you.

01:16:15.000 Maybe that's not important to the people who are watching this right now.

01:16:17.000 But it was important to me.

01:16:19.000 So at the end of the day, my friend, I couldn't pick a Christian woman.

01:16:23.000 Because the Christian values is completely down the shithole. 1.00

01:16:29.000 These women wear crosses and go on OnlyFans. 0.93

01:16:33.000 So, my friend, I just wanted to ask you.

01:16:36.000 Why did you marry a Christian woman? 0.83

01:16:38.000 Did virtue of a woman mean nothing to you, sir?

01:16:42.000 Yeah, so I'll respond to kind of all of this in sequence.

01:16:45.000 Let's put three minutes on the clock for Andrew.

01:16:46.000 Yeah, so the first thing is, like, Gary's kind of right in some of this, but he's mostly wrong, as usual.

01:16:52.000 So I'll give him the granting of the things he's kind of right about.

01:16:55.000 It is true that decadence has taken over most of the West, and there's all sorts of subversion inside of the West from a lot of this decadence.

01:17:03.000 And there are a lot of people who use a self-identifier of Christian who are not Christian.

01:17:07.000 I don't dispute that at all.

01:17:09.000 That's a major problem.

01:17:11.000 The thing is, is that inside the purview of Christian ethics, we're not going to behead you in things like this for wearing a cross while you do your OnlyFans.

01:17:20.000 And we never really had to because we had the mechanism of public shame and public propaganda on our side in order to reduce these types of decadent behaviors from happening.

01:17:29.000 This is exactly what myself and many others are fighting to move back towards.

01:17:34.000 Now, it's actually secularism and the alternative to...

01:17:37.000 To Christianity, which started this. 0.99

01:17:39.000 Not Christianity. 1.00

01:17:40.000 It was the secularists who wanted to make porn legal.

01:17:44.000 It's the secularists who wanted to make feminism the staple law of the land. 0.99

01:17:48.000 These are not Christian values, and Christians never embraced these values. 0.99

01:17:53.000 This was a subversion which happened over about an 80- to 90-year period, and is still going on to this day.

01:17:59.000 And yes, it does need to be resisted.

01:18:01.000 But when you're talking about Muslims, there's women who claim to be Muslims who are on OnlyFans. 0.99

01:18:05.000 I don't know if you know this or not.

01:18:06.000 I've debated with some of them right on Fresh and Fit.

01:18:09.000 I don't know where you're getting this idea that this is only a Christian thing.

01:18:12.000 This is regionally true even in Muslim nations. 0.79

01:18:15.000 It just depends on the one that you're in.

01:18:16.000 So some of what you say does have some validity and accuracy to it, but most of it actually doesn't have much validity and accuracy to it.

01:18:24.000 And on top of all of that, if you think that virtue...

01:18:28.000 It's only around the idea that a woman was chaste. 0.99

01:18:33.000 Not loyalty, not any of these other virtues are compounded.

01:18:37.000 There's many, many different types of virtues which go into a person.

01:18:41.000 It's not perfection.

01:18:42.000 If it was perfection, your fat ass would have no virtues. 1.00

01:18:45.000 Because, ultimately, what you do, your whole worldview is designed around numerology.

01:18:52.000 It's designed around taking.

01:18:55.000 Materially from people and giving less value to them than you get.

01:18:58.000 That is a complete materialistic and nihilistic worldview.

01:19:03.000 And in the end, if you want to talk about karma, the karma that you'll get is self-imposed.

01:19:07.000 It's not because nature is going to come in, the laws of the universe, and destroy you because of this.

01:19:13.000 It's because it's ultimately just a void and empty lifestyle.

01:19:16.000 When you talk about virtues...

01:19:18.000 Virtue is not a single thing.

01:19:20.000 Is chastity a virtue?

01:19:21.000 Sure, I agree with you.

01:19:23.000 But was I chased when I met my wife?

01:19:25.000 No.

01:19:26.000 So that wasn't even a virtue that I held.

01:19:28.000 Nor do I think it was probably a virtue you held when you met yours, Gary.

01:19:32.000 So the thing is, again, the only thing you seem to be able to tie any facts to is the already publicly released information that I married a woman who had children.

01:19:43.000 Oh, my God!

01:19:44.000 Gary!

01:19:45.000 Oh, Gary!

01:19:46.000 Oh, my God!

01:19:47.000 Oh! 0.60

01:19:49.000 Gary went better, Gary!

01:19:51.000 All right.

01:19:52.000 We'll put three minutes back on the clock.

01:19:54.000 Do you guys want to continue on this thing?

01:19:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:57.000 It's fine.

01:19:58.000 Let's get started.

01:19:59.000 And I'll do a little short break for Super Chats after this.

01:20:01.000 Okay.

01:20:01.000 Yeah, let me tell you, my friend.

01:20:03.000 You're right.

01:20:03.000 You know what?

01:20:04.000 You're right.

01:20:04.000 I am overweight.

01:20:05.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:20:07.000 I'm overweight.

01:20:07.000 You know what's not overweight?

01:20:08.000 My wife like yours.

01:20:10.000 So, again, here's what it comes down to.

01:20:12.000 As long as a man has money, this can be overlooked.

01:20:16.000 A woman being fat can never be overlooked. 1.00

01:20:19.000 You're fucking married to a ran-through whore who has kids by another freaking man, and you're over here virtue signaling? 1.00

01:20:27.000 Brother!

01:20:28.000 No one is looking at me and talking about, yo, he has bad karma.

01:20:33.000 Brother, you're going to have the bad karma because you're taking care of kids who aren't your own.

01:20:38.000 They're laughing at you.

01:20:39.000 They're laughing at you every single day because it is your duty in life.

01:20:45.000 It is your karma in life to take care of kids who aren't his own.

01:20:50.000 There's nothing, nothing that could ever get me to do something like that.

01:20:54.000 What's the karma there, Gary?

01:20:55.000 You're taking care of kids who aren't your own, sir.

01:20:58.000 Yeah, what's the karma?

01:20:59.000 Why would that be bad karma?

01:21:00.000 Why would that be bad karma?

01:21:01.000 Yeah.

01:21:02.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

01:21:03.000 Chat, you decide for yourself if it's bad karma to raise another...

01:21:09.000 We're not built the same way, brother.

01:21:11.000 Why would that be bad karma, Gary?

01:21:13.000 Can you answer my question?

01:21:14.000 You might be a better man than me, brother, because I couldn't do it.

01:21:17.000 Yes, that's true.

01:21:17.000 That's why I convert your signal, because I am a better man than you.

01:21:20.000 Outstanding.

01:21:21.000 Outstanding.

01:21:22.000 And you continue to be a better man when you wake up in the morning and feed and dress kids that you didn't create.

01:21:29.000 I don't have that problem.

01:21:30.000 Do you realize that my stepkids are all adults and out of the house now, Gary?

01:21:34.000 Did you even know that?

01:21:35.000 Do you know that I do have my own kids who live at home with me?

01:21:39.000 Do you even know any of this stuff?

01:21:41.000 You actually fed kids that aren't yours.

01:21:43.000 You housed kids that aren't yours. 0.93

01:21:44.000 You wouldn't feed kids that weren't yours? 0.98

01:21:46.000 You're a sip.

01:21:46.000 A woman used you for resources.

01:21:48.000 You're a sip.

01:21:49.000 Wait, Gary, Gary, can you ask my question?

01:21:50.000 You're literally a sip.

01:21:51.000 A woman used you for resources. 1.00

01:21:53.000 Are you saying you wouldn't feed kids that aren't yours?

01:21:55.000 Not consistently, no.

01:21:57.000 Why not?

01:21:58.000 Because I only feed my own kids.

01:22:02.000 What's wrong with feeding kids that aren't yours? 0.97

01:22:04.000 Well, I'll tell you what, sir.

01:22:05.000 If that is the life you want to live as a Christian, then live your life that way, sir. 1.00

01:22:13.000 I am not going to live my life taking care of other people's kids.

01:22:17.000 You want to do that?

01:22:18.000 Good for you.

01:22:19.000 Would you donate to charity?

01:22:22.000 Would you donate to charity?

01:22:25.000 Of course I have.

01:22:25.000 But here's the point.

01:22:26.000 You are taking care of kids by a woman who was ran through by one man, ran through by another man, and you're the sip who's...

01:22:34.000 She's fucking paying the bill. 1.00

01:22:36.000 Oh, wow.

01:22:36.000 She had a three body count.

01:22:37.000 Wow, so high, Gary.

01:22:39.000 Well done.

01:22:39.000 Everyone wants to be like you.

01:22:41.000 Mine was way out of control, but yeah, I guess she got me.

01:22:44.000 She had a three, even though I had, well, I don't even want to get into how many, but the point is, is like, dude, probably you did too.

01:22:50.000 Great.

01:22:50.000 You bought your chick from some fucking country.

01:22:53.000 My kids are on my own.

01:22:54.000 I'll tell you what, if you're big at the statistic, how about we do DNA tests and see how many of those kids are yours and how many of those kids are mine. 0.99

01:23:01.000 Would you like to do that?

01:23:02.000 I'll be more than happy to.

01:23:03.000 Can you just answer my question?

01:23:04.000 What's wrong with feeding kids that aren't yours? 0.97

01:23:07.000 What's wrong with that?

01:23:08.000 Do you have any moral objection to it at all?

01:23:10.000 Do I have a moral objection to charity?

01:23:13.000 No.

01:23:14.000 Do I have a moral objection to feeding kids consistently day, day, day, week by week, week, year by year, being a simp for a woman? 1.00

01:23:22.000 Yes, I do.

01:23:23.000 What makes one of those bad and the other one not bad?

01:23:25.000 Very simply, because a woman is taking advantage of you and your resources because she was a whore or a slut and basically has kids out of windlock that someone didn't want to take care of. 0.99

01:23:35.000 And guess what?

01:23:36.000 There's always a simp like you who's going to take care of them. 0.99

01:23:38.000 So congratulations!

01:23:40.000 You're showing people what a good Christian man is.

01:23:42.000 What am I doing that's immoral, Gary?

01:23:44.000 What are you doing that's immoral?

01:23:46.000 Yeah, how is that immoral?

01:23:47.000 How is it immoral for me to take care of children that aren't mine, Gary?

01:23:49.000 It's being a simpy moral?

01:23:50.000 Probably not.

01:23:51.000 Does it make you look like a fool?

01:23:53.000 Yeah, it probably does.

01:23:54.000 You can't even say it's bad, Gary.

01:23:55.000 You can't even say it's bad.

01:23:57.000 That's how dumb your fucking position is.

01:24:00.000 Again, again, this man is telling you to be upset.

01:24:03.000 After all the steam coming out your ears, you can't even say it's bad here.

01:24:07.000 He's telling you, take care of other people's kids that aren't your own.

01:24:10.000 Don't be a man.

01:24:11.000 Be a simp.

01:24:12.000 This is what this man is telling you.

01:24:13.000 Can I respond now, Myron?

01:24:14.000 Can I respond to all this shit?

01:24:15.000 This is your time.

01:24:16.000 I mean, you guys are kind of going back.

01:24:17.000 Yeah, so anyway, so this is really simple, right?

01:24:20.000 He can't even tell you why it's bad.

01:24:22.000 That's one.

01:24:23.000 And two, I don't recommend for most men that they marry any woman.

01:24:29.000 Who has children because being a step-parent is a very difficult thing.

01:24:33.000 But I wouldn't chastise them either for doing it.

01:24:37.000 It's not a moral conditional that you say you fell in love with a woman who has children.

01:24:43.000 There's no moral conditional saying that that's wrong.

01:24:45.000 You couldn't do any better, sir.

01:24:47.000 That's all it was.

01:24:47.000 Gary, calm down.

01:24:49.000 It's not any more moral than falling in love with a woman who doesn't. 0.90

01:24:53.000 Right?

01:24:53.000 But there's nothing that you can even say which is wrong, immoral, something like this, about being your stepdad.

01:24:59.000 The best you can do is cast aspersions and be like, oh, your wife's a whore! 1.00

01:25:03.000 Oh my god, she's a whore! 1.00

01:25:05.000 Based on what?

01:25:06.000 Based on the fact that she was super loyal to two men?

01:25:09.000 Like, what the fuck is that?

01:25:11.000 That's not whorish behavior.

01:25:12.000 It's the opposite.

01:25:13.000 On top of that, Gary, even if I were to even grant it, you still couldn't even tell me why that was immoral.

01:25:20.000 Because from your view, there is no immoral.

01:25:23.000 There's just fucking numbers and shit and weird shit.

01:25:26.000 So ultimately, it's like, you can make this attack over and over and over again.

01:25:31.000 By the way...

01:25:32.000 Predicted it before I ever went live.

01:25:34.000 I have it right here on the notepad for the audience to see.

01:25:36.000 This is the debate.

01:25:37.000 This is all Gary wants to do.

01:25:39.000 Why?

01:25:39.000 Because you think that somehow it punishes me, but it doesn't.

01:25:43.000 This has, again, been out there for years.

01:25:45.000 Look at the chat.

01:25:46.000 Years.

01:25:50.000 So what's the next topic?

01:25:52.000 Did you guys want to go into more with the Christianity stuff?

01:25:55.000 Yeah, let's do a quick break for chats.

01:25:58.000 Let's do the chats.

01:25:59.000 Go ahead.

01:26:00.000 Andrew can start the next one.

01:26:02.000 Okay.

01:26:03.000 You don't got the what?

01:26:05.000 You don't got them ready?

01:26:07.000 Oh.

01:26:09.000 All right.

01:26:10.000 Okay, that's fine.

01:26:12.000 Next topic then?

01:26:12.000 Yeah, we'll go to the next topic.

01:26:14.000 The next topic, what did you want to discuss with Christianity?

01:26:17.000 I want to keep going with the virtues of Christianity because this is extremely important for people who want to decide if they're going to be Christians, if they're going to be Muslims, what they're going to do in life.

01:26:27.000 Because, listen, here's what it comes down to, man.

01:26:31.000 Hold on, are you okay with that, Andrew?

01:26:33.000 Sure.

01:26:34.000 The virtue of Christianity? 0.99

01:26:35.000 Okay, and then I guess you're going to kick it off?

01:26:38.000 The nuclear family is absolutely broken.

01:26:42.000 It's absolutely broken.

01:26:44.000 And the thing is, when you look in the Muslim world, that nuclear family is not broken.

01:26:49.000 The women are having four, five, six kids apiece. 1.00

01:26:53.000 I mean, that's basically why the birth rates are going up.

01:26:55.000 But in America and the UK, so-called Christian nations, the family unit is...

01:27:04.000 Basically destroyed.

01:27:05.000 We have a man here.

01:27:06.000 And again, he's not the only one.

01:27:08.000 He is 100% right about that.

01:27:10.000 He is from broken homes.

01:27:13.000 So basically you have a woman who came from a broken home. 0.92

01:27:16.000 And you have a man who came from a broken home.

01:27:18.000 And they came together to form a new union.

01:27:20.000 The fact of the matter is this.

01:27:22.000 That is not a real nuclear family.

01:27:25.000 Once you have kids from a different relationship, that is not a real nuclear family.

01:27:32.000 That's a foster care center.

01:27:34.000 That's what it is.

01:27:35.000 And I'm going to tell you guys, listen, accidents happen.

01:27:39.000 People die.

01:27:41.000 Circumstances happen.

01:27:42.000 Yes, it is a good thing that those kids are being taken care of.

01:27:46.000 But you know what is?

01:27:47.000 What is also a good thing?

01:27:49.000 When a man knows.

01:27:51.000 He's coming home and working for his own kids.

01:27:55.000 To some men, that means everything.

01:27:58.000 To some men, they basically want to get out and work as much as they want to provide everything for their wife.

01:28:05.000 To provide everything.

01:28:06.000 I'm going to say this.

01:28:08.000 I'm not Christian. 0.83

01:28:09.000 They call me a Jew, but I don't practice Judaism.

01:28:12.000 I've never kissed the wall.

01:28:13.000 Don't let them lie to you.

01:28:14.000 I'm not a Mossad agent.

01:28:16.000 Whatever else they want to say.

01:28:17.000 I am above all.

01:28:20.000 Not just a numerologist.

01:28:22.000 Not just a millionaire.

01:28:23.000 Not someone who's connected.

01:28:25.000 And by the way, he said that was a lie.

01:28:26.000 By the way, you saw I was connected, correct?

01:28:29.000 That is correct.

01:28:30.000 So again, now you're questioning him as well.

01:28:32.000 So at the end of the day, the number one thing I am is a father.

01:28:37.000 Is an absolute father.

01:28:40.000 The number one thing I am is the leader of my house.

01:28:46.000 That's what I am.

01:28:48.000 I have two kids.

01:28:50.000 My kid's a Valley Victorian.

01:28:53.000 I have a wife that she is still as gorgeous as the day I met her. 1.00

01:28:58.000 So one thing I'd like to point out is, you know, a lot of you guys marry women and then they have kids and they turn into fat slobs. 0.98

01:29:07.000 Not me.

01:29:08.000 I'm still showing her off all these years later.

01:29:12.000 And guess what?

01:29:14.000 If you're saying that doesn't matter, you're lying to yourself.

01:29:18.000 Every single one of you guys are lying to yourself.

01:29:21.000 So yeah, I have a big bag.

01:29:23.000 Yeah, I'm going to shout it from the top of my lungs because no one ever helped me.

01:29:27.000 I did it in a capitalist society like everyone else should.

01:29:31.000 But I don't need Christianity, Judaism to do the right thing. 1.00

01:29:37.000 I don't need them to say, oh, I'm not going to cheat on my wife.

01:29:40.000 I don't need that stuff because I have enough morality of my own to know what is right.

01:29:47.000 And when it's wrong, I don't need fear of a book that God is going to punish me.

01:29:52.000 I already know what the real deal is.

01:29:54.000 Okay.

01:29:55.000 Go ahead, Andrew.

01:29:57.000 Anyway, well, I don't, this is like just Gary's mental mind state, just assertion after assertion, no arguments, no nothing, right?

01:30:06.000 I'm just going to assert, why are you interrupting me, Gary?

01:30:09.000 Didn't say a word the entire time you were speaking.

01:30:12.000 So anyway, it's just assertion after assertion.

01:30:14.000 He's not actually saying anything to you.

01:30:16.000 Let's correct the record on a few things.

01:30:18.000 Christian ethics isn't telling you, and Christianity isn't telling you, that you need to go marry a woman with children.

01:30:24.000 It's not telling you you need to marry a woman at all.

01:30:27.000 It's not telling you which woman specifically you can have a preference for or not have a preference for.

01:30:33.000 What it's allowing is it's allowing for the conditionals that if a woman has children, you can marry her. 0.88

01:30:39.000 That's okay.

01:30:40.000 And Gary's, by his own admission, he says, is it a good thing those kids are taken care of?

01:30:44.000 He says yes.

01:30:45.000 He literally started this by saying that's a good thing.

01:30:48.000 Now his moral claim has changed.

01:30:51.000 Not only is it not a bad thing, But now it's a good thing.

01:30:54.000 Now we've gotten into ought do because it's good.

01:30:57.000 So Gary's own admission, now am I not doing anything wrong?

01:31:00.000 I'm doing something good.

01:31:01.000 So that's what, it's really funny.

01:31:03.000 And then he strawmans and characterizes Christianity as being something which is making a determination or a dictation that you must do X. Christianity is not postulating that you must be a stepfather or a stepparent.

01:31:17.000 Many men have a preference not to do that.

01:31:19.000 Who the fuck would ever tell them that was wrong or improper?

01:31:22.000 They can have a preference for that.

01:31:24.000 Also, he brings up Muslim nations and says that their birth rates are on the incline.

01:31:28.000 They're not.

01:31:29.000 They're on the massive decline.

01:31:30.000 You should check Iran, for instance.

01:31:32.000 Many Middle Eastern nations are on a massive decline.

01:31:35.000 In fact, the only places really in the world where birth rates are increasing is in some parts of Africa.

01:31:41.000 It is true that some of those are Muslim areas, but many of them are also Christian areas.

01:31:47.000 So Muslim birth rates are in mass decline as well.

01:31:50.000 I don't know what the fuck he's talking about, but...

01:31:52.000 Also, with Muslims, that is the case. 0.99

01:31:54.000 I just don't know what the hell he's talking about.

01:31:57.000 You can go country by country by country, and this can be demonstrated pretty easily.

01:32:02.000 So, again, I don't know how this is a criticism of Christian ethics.

01:32:07.000 When Christian ethics isn't saying that you must have a preference for any type of woman or ex-woman or whatever, only that if she follows the same virtues and value structures that you do, you can marry her with the blessing of your priest in church.

01:32:21.000 That's it.

01:32:22.000 Who the fuck is telling you you have to do these things?

01:32:24.000 Nobody.

01:32:25.000 Gary, on the other hand, is postulating you should be a numerologist.

01:32:28.000 You should follow his system.

01:32:30.000 He's going to get you rich.

01:32:31.000 You're going to be rich.

01:32:33.000 You're not going to get rich.

01:32:34.000 What you're going to do is you're going to pay for a bunch of bullshit cold readings, and you're going to lose your ass, like many people already have, and you're not going to make any fucking money.

01:32:41.000 The only person who's going to make money in the transaction that you have with Gary is one person, and that's Gary.

01:32:47.000 Now, you know what's really funny?

01:32:49.000 Me as a political commentator, the only person who's ever going to make money at my political commentary is also me.

01:32:55.000 But at least I'm fucking honest about that.

01:32:57.000 At least I'm honest about that.

01:32:59.000 And I can guarantee you that I've given way more...

01:33:02.000 Back to my audience than you fucking ever have in a million years.

01:33:05.000 And on top of all of that, right, as if that wasn't bad enough, just try to remember this, that in this huge bill of sale that Gary's trying to kind of sell you, Andrew's a grifter, he's this, he's evil, he's blah, blah, blah.

01:33:20.000 Look at what he did with his wife, everything which is well within the purview of Christian ethics.

01:33:25.000 Gary has not demonstrated any fraud on behalf of Andrew Wilson.

01:33:30.000 He's not shown that I've ever taken a dime from anybody in an illicit or malicious manner or a malevolent manner or that I've never done business with anybody in a way which wasn't completely on the up and up.

01:33:42.000 He's not demonstrated any of that.

01:33:44.000 And yet the cases of Gary doing this are fucking innumerable.

01:33:48.000 The amount of people that claim that this guy has huckstered them, defrauded them or caused problems for them is is enormous.

01:33:57.000 Where are those cases for me, Gary?

01:34:00.000 Where are they?

01:34:01.000 Where's my victims, Gary?

01:34:02.000 Where are they?

01:34:03.000 Where are mine?

01:34:05.000 Well, we can get into...

01:34:07.000 Where are my victims?

01:34:08.000 You don't have haters on Twitter?

01:34:10.000 So do I, bro.

01:34:11.000 Wait, did I take money from those haters?

01:34:14.000 Well, let me put it like this, man.

01:34:16.000 I have 5,000 students.

01:34:18.000 I would say 99.9.5% are very happy with my services.

01:34:23.000 Yes, you're going to have people who are unhappy.

01:34:25.000 I'm sure there's people you've ran into life that don't like you.

01:34:29.000 None of them are saying that I defrauded them, Gary.

01:34:31.000 I mean, listen, people with frauds will say anything they want.

01:34:34.000 I'm sure you heard that.

01:34:36.000 Nobody's saying in a very long, illustrious career so far on the internet.

01:34:40.000 And I've taken in a lot of cash on the internet, Gary.

01:34:42.000 Not a single person has accused me of defrauding anybody.

01:34:45.000 I've taken millions and millions from people, and there's going to be...

01:34:47.000 Put in the GG33 hashtag.

01:34:49.000 I don't believe you have taken in millions from people.

01:34:51.000 How about this?

01:34:52.000 You know what?

01:34:53.000 How about this?

01:34:54.000 We can do a certain thing.

01:34:55.000 So I can show Fresh, and then he can tell you.

01:34:58.000 How about that?

01:34:59.000 What does that do?

01:35:00.000 I'll show Fresh that I make millions, and he can say yes or no.

01:35:03.000 Yeah, but we can't.

01:35:04.000 How do I verify that that's true?

01:35:07.000 How do I verify you have any kids that you're owed?

01:35:10.000 What, are we going to take DNA tests, bro?

01:35:14.000 Hang on, you're the claimer here.

01:35:15.000 You're claiming that you take in millions.

01:35:18.000 Let's see it.

01:35:19.000 100%, man.

01:35:19.000 And I'll be more than happy to show Myron and Fresh, and then they can go out afterwards and say that's true or not.

01:35:24.000 Well, you seem, for a grifter, I must be really terrible at it, because there seems to be a very low list of people accusing me of defrauding them, and a very high list of people who claim that you have defrauded them.

01:35:33.000 Your life is a fraud.

01:35:34.000 You go on other people's podcasts, call people cucks, when you're a simp yourself, taking care of...

01:35:38.000 Okay.

01:35:39.000 You're taking care of a little bit.

01:35:40.000 You can call me a simp, Gary, but you can't call me a cuck.

01:35:43.000 I'm calling you a simp.

01:35:43.000 And me calling someone a cuck isn't the same as calling them a simp.

01:35:45.000 You're going out there talking shit to other men when you're a simp yourself.

01:35:48.000 That's what's hilarious about this.

01:35:50.000 What's the hypocrisy, Gary?

01:35:52.000 What's the hypocrisy?

01:35:53.000 You're taking care of Kids.

01:35:55.000 That's not cockery by your own admission, Gary.

01:35:57.000 You are taking care of a ran-through woman. 0.98

01:36:00.000 That is who you are.

01:36:01.000 What makes you ran-through, Gary?

01:36:03.000 You couldn't do any better.

01:36:04.000 I married a virgin.

01:36:05.000 Let's compare what you did to me.

01:36:07.000 You didn't marry no virgin. 0.79

01:36:08.000 You married a ran-through woman. 0.82

01:36:10.000 What is better?

01:36:11.000 Can your woman even speak English? 1.00

01:36:13.000 If they want to be like you, so be it.

01:36:14.000 Can your woman even speak English? 1.00

01:36:15.000 So be it.

01:36:16.000 You are a freaking fraud the way you live your life.

01:36:19.000 How do I live my life that's fraudulent?

01:36:23.000 How?

01:36:24.000 I literally was on that show, and Myron asked me about all of this, and I told him all of it.

01:36:31.000 You got the lowest hanging fruit when it came to a woman, and that's what you basically have to show out there, that you have a random woman as your wife. 1.00

01:36:40.000 Where's the grift?

01:36:44.000 I was on that very program with Myron and with Fresh, explained all of this.

01:36:50.000 Everything you're currently talking about, I did it all live on air.

01:36:54.000 Where's the fraud, fuckhead?

01:36:55.000 The fraud is very simple.

01:36:57.000 Where?

01:36:58.000 Don't go out there and call other men cucks when you're a simp.

01:37:01.000 You're not living your life right.

01:37:02.000 Yeah, you can call men cucks when you're engaged in cuckoldry.

01:37:04.000 Why are you calling other men?

01:37:06.000 I'm sorry, do I let other men purposely fuck my wife? 1.00

01:37:09.000 No, that's a cock, dude. 0.68

01:37:09.000 What are you talking about? 0.68

01:37:11.000 You actually want to project...

01:37:13.000 The way you talk to your wife, and you go on whatever and talk shit to women because you're projecting what you want to say to your wife.

01:37:19.000 So you're a feminist now? 1.00

01:37:20.000 That's the feminist critique. 1.00

01:37:22.000 That's literally what every feminist critique of me is, Gary. 0.99

01:37:25.000 Now you're a feminist? 1.00

01:37:26.000 I mean, I'm telling you what it is.

01:37:27.000 You're projecting, Andrew.

01:37:28.000 You really wish you could just lay into your own life, Andrew.

01:37:31.000 Now you're a feminist? 1.00

01:37:33.000 I'll tell you what.

01:37:33.000 I'm never a feminist, but I'll tell you what, bro.

01:37:35.000 I never would be stuck with the ran-through, fat broad you have. 1.00

01:37:39.000 Okay.

01:37:40.000 You're stuck with a Malaysian non-English speaking box order bride. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Shut up, Gary.

01:37:44.000 Nobody's buying your bullshit, Gary.

01:37:46.000 That chick looks like she's been a fucking piece of chewed up bacon that's been left on the side of the fucking road, dude. 1.00

01:37:52.000 What are you talking about?

01:37:54.000 Why are you...

01:37:55.000 Why is it that you feel so justified in seeking attacks?

01:38:03.000 Baby, they say you can't speak English.

01:38:06.000 Say hi to Andrew.

01:38:07.000 Or say hi to Joseph.

01:38:09.000 Hi Andrew, how are you?

01:38:11.000 I can barely understand what you're saying.

01:38:13.000 Can you say it again?

01:38:14.000 Joseph, say hi to Andrew.

01:38:15.000 Hi, Joseph or Andrew.

01:38:17.000 How are you?

01:38:18.000 Joseph?

01:38:18.000 Who the fuck is Joseph?

01:38:19.000 Well, that's who you basically...

01:38:21.000 That doesn't sound like the English to me.

01:38:22.000 What's Joseph?

01:38:23.000 Joseph is the guy in the Bible who is taking care of other people's kids.

01:38:26.000 So I thought I'd give you a Christian name that fits your values the most.

01:38:29.000 So you will forever be called Joseph Wilson from now on.

01:38:33.000 Oh, no.

01:38:34.000 You're going to name me after one of the finest patron saints of the Orthodox Church.

01:38:37.000 Oh, my God.

01:38:38.000 Oh, my God.

01:38:39.000 You're going to compare me to the Father of Jesus Christ.

01:38:42.000 Holy shit, Gary.

01:38:43.000 You really don't get on me today.

01:38:44.000 Hey, brother!

01:38:46.000 Wow!

01:38:46.000 You're really getting me with these zingers!

01:38:50.000 Sip with the year award goes to Joseph Wosid.

01:38:53.000 Congratulations, sir.

01:38:54.000 I think we've made the point very clear, your stances on each other.

01:38:56.000 We're good, man.

01:38:57.000 We're good.

01:38:57.000 So we'll do some chats here as we've got the girls show coming up as well.

01:39:01.000 One chest eight.

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01:39:35.000 Quick Slap says, Before Constantine the Great was a Roman Emperor, he was fighting in a war and was outnumbered.

01:39:41.000 He saw the cross in the sky when he was a pagan that he would win, so he ordered his soldiers to put the cross on their shields, and he won the war. 0.77

01:39:49.000 He converted to Christianity at the time when Christians were persecuted, and no other reason to convert unless what he saw was real. 0.95

01:39:55.000 Christianity is real.

01:39:56.000 Okay?

01:39:58.000 Rebel Overdose says, Nice to meet you, Gary.

01:40:00.000 What concrete evidence that you will have or prove that or that I can search up that zodiac signs and neurology is real and help someone to find a comparable relationship?

01:40:08.000 You want to respond to him?

01:40:10.000 Yeah, sir.

01:40:11.000 Basically, when it comes to astrology and numerology, there are certain numbers that are more compatible with others.

01:40:16.000 Certain signs that are more compatible with others.

01:40:18.000 That's why I picked—I'm born in the snake year.

01:40:21.000 My wife is born in the rooster year.

01:40:22.000 Those are the two most compatible signs.

01:40:24.000 We're married 20 years, no issues.

01:40:26.000 So, basically, if you go by the system, you're not going to have a 50-60% divorce rate like these Christians do. 1.00

01:40:32.000 Yeah, well, here's the actual system, just so you know its roots.

01:40:36.000 It was developed, at least by legend.

01:40:39.000 By some emperor who had a bunch of animals race each other.

01:40:43.000 And then the position they came in...

01:40:44.000 They assigned them to a star sign.

01:40:46.000 It's completely arbitrary.

01:40:47.000 It's totally meaningless.

01:40:49.000 Literally means nothing.

01:40:51.000 The entire thing is counterfactual any time Gary is asked to present real evidence on behalf of his worldview.

01:40:58.000 He always claims it's math.

01:40:59.000 You'd think there'd be mathematical formulas all over the place to prove this, but he never has any.

01:41:04.000 He just shows you these really, really tiny data sets that he comes up with, which just affirm his belief, and the second they're questioned, they fall apart.

01:41:14.000 Okay.

01:41:17.000 What's next?

01:41:19.000 Junebug.

01:41:20.000 Gary, she's old as fuck. 1.00

01:41:21.000 This isn't a W. I hope your woman looks like that when she's 40 and a fat pig like most of these Americans are. 1.00

01:41:29.000 You guys have also been married for 20 years.

01:41:31.000 You met her when she was 20, right?

01:41:33.000 Yeah, bro.

01:41:34.000 That is time for you.

01:41:36.000 Junebug says, Gatti, I think he's Gary, stop having this old lady massage you. 1.00

01:41:41.000 You're not Andrew Tate.

01:41:42.000 I don't have my shirt off either.

01:41:45.000 So, no, I'm definitely not Andrew Tate.

01:41:47.000 I didn't pimp women to get money. 1.00

01:41:48.000 So, no, I'm definitely not Andrew Tate.

01:41:51.000 Patman number one.

01:41:52.000 Andrew, I'm in the UK. I will not get a single mom, but in my day, it's different.

01:41:57.000 You're just different, and you slay a brother.

01:41:59.000 Fuck Gary.

01:42:00.000 Win Andrew, win Rachel.

01:42:01.000 Yeah, well, again, even to the casual observer who understands that life is not simplified, it's complex, and that each individual situation for each individual person is a different set.

01:42:15.000 It's a different set of circumstances.

01:42:17.000 When we discuss optimals, we can say things are optimal.

01:42:21.000 And that is true, that a thing is optimal.

01:42:24.000 And there's nothing wrong with saying that, but also saying at the same time, there can be cases of nuance where you can make the most out of a bad situation, or you can make mistakes, recover from them.

01:42:35.000 There's all sorts of different individual circumstances.

01:42:37.000 Gary himself, remember, admitted, it's good to take care of kids like this.

01:42:41.000 It's good.

01:42:42.000 He says, a declaration of affirmation towards the moral prism of Christian ethics.

01:42:47.000 More proof from my worldview is more coherent than his.

01:42:50.000 Would you want your child to get married to a single mother with kids? 1.00

01:42:54.000 I think that that generally wouldn't be optimal.

01:42:57.000 Okay.

01:42:57.000 There you go.

01:42:58.000 At least you're being honest.

01:42:59.000 So you're telling people...

01:43:00.000 When has that never been my position here?

01:43:03.000 Don't follow your footsteps is what you're telling the people who are watching.

01:43:05.000 I also tell them not to smoke, Gary.

01:43:07.000 I tell them not to smoke.

01:43:10.000 Gary, I tell them not to smoke even though I smoke, Gary.

01:43:13.000 Do you tell your 12-year-old to smoke a blunt with you, Gary?

01:43:17.000 Do you tell your 12-year-old to smoke a blunt with you?

01:43:20.000 Gary, do you tell your 12-year-old to smoke a blunt with you?

01:43:22.000 Not until he's 18. I don't understand, though, Gary.

01:43:25.000 You fucking hypocrite.

01:43:26.000 Why can't he smoke it when he's 12?

01:43:28.000 Why not, Gary?

01:43:29.000 Mine's not developed enough.

01:43:31.000 What do you mean?

01:43:32.000 It's developed enough for 18?

01:43:33.000 Yeah, I would say so.

01:43:34.000 At 17 and a half, is it developed enough?

01:43:36.000 Probably, maybe.

01:43:37.000 Depends.

01:43:38.000 16 and a half, Gary?

01:43:39.000 Nah, probably not.

01:43:40.000 It's just fucking arbitrary, these metrics, right?

01:43:42.000 You know why it's completely fine?

01:43:44.000 Maybe you want to marry a nine-year-old next time.

01:43:47.000 I'm sure you probably would have no actual argument against doing that since you love Muslims so much, Gary.

01:43:53.000 Well, actually, there's a lot of Christians who actually married 12-year-olds, too, in the 1300s.

01:43:59.000 Oh, yeah, for state unions, not because the prophet married one.

01:44:04.000 Not because the prophet married one, Gary.

01:44:06.000 Sir, sir, at the end of the day, let's face facts, man.

01:44:11.000 I've been married for 20 years to one woman.

01:44:13.000 My kids look like me.

01:44:15.000 You have been married to a woman who's not only fat, who's not only been ran through by other men, you are taking kids of not your own. 0.61

01:44:23.000 She gave me kids, you fucking lunatic retard! 1.00

01:44:27.000 Would you want your kids to live the life you live?

01:44:29.000 You said no!

01:44:31.000 So basically, by your omission, you're a failure!

01:44:34.000 That's not a failure for me to point out.

01:44:37.000 Like, okay, if I had been in a car accident...

01:44:40.000 And I advocate that other people don't get in a car accident?

01:44:43.000 This means I'm a failure?

01:44:45.000 You're comparing car taxes to getting...

01:44:47.000 Yeah, I'm just showing you the extension of how stupid your logic is.

01:44:50.000 Your logic is very stupid.

01:44:52.000 So, like, if you come from a broken home, if you come from a broken home by Gary's logic, if for any reason...

01:45:02.000 If for any reason you say, you know, that really wasn't optimal, then that means you're some kind of fucking hypocrite.

01:45:08.000 Like, it makes no sense whatsoever what he's saying.

01:45:11.000 And also, he can't have it both ways.

01:45:13.000 He can't say it's good what you're doing, Andrew.

01:45:15.000 But also, it's bad you're not adhering to the very virtues of other people's kids.

01:45:21.000 Gary, Gary, I just let you talk, Gary.

01:45:23.000 It's just not going to be me, pal.

01:45:23.000 It's not going to be me.

01:45:25.000 It's going to be you.

01:45:25.000 Calm down, Gary.

01:45:26.000 Calm down, Gary.

01:45:27.000 You can't say it's good.

01:45:29.000 And then at the same time say Andrew doesn't adhere to his own virtues that you claim are good.

01:45:34.000 Of course I do.

01:45:35.000 When have I ever been dishonest about any of this?

01:45:37.000 Never.

01:45:38.000 It's always been up front.

01:45:39.000 So call yourself a simp.

01:45:39.000 Right?

01:45:39.000 I'm not a fucking red pillar.

01:45:40.000 So call yourself a simp.

01:45:41.000 Do you think I give a shit?

01:45:42.000 Call yourself a simp.

01:45:42.000 Do you think I give a flying fuck if some fucking retard is like, oh, you're white.

01:45:48.000 Oh my god, you're white. 1.00

01:45:49.000 They have no arguments, Gary, so I don't care.

01:45:51.000 Of course it.

01:45:52.000 Tell people that you're a simp. 0.52

01:45:54.000 Put down the cigarette and tell people, do not be like me.

01:45:58.000 Do not take care of single mothers because I'm going to be the guy who takes care of other people's kids. 1.00

01:46:04.000 They actually ran through her.

01:46:06.000 So every man's stepfather is a simp. 0.99

01:46:08.000 Other people have basically ran through the woman and you were paid for the bill, sir.

01:46:12.000 Gary, every man's stepfather is a simp, Gary. 0.68

01:46:17.000 If they're taking care of other people's kids.

01:46:19.000 So every man's stepfather is a simp. 0.99

01:46:21.000 That's Gary.

01:46:22.000 If they're taking care of other people's kids.

01:46:23.000 They are a simp!

01:46:25.000 Yeah, so any of the people who are enrolled in your class right this second who have stepfathers, their stepfather is a simp and you're saying that their mother has mediocre pussy. 1.00

01:46:33.000 Is that correct, Gary?

01:46:34.000 Well, I mean, you said the second part yourself, but yes, they are a simp.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, well, what does simp mean?

01:46:38.000 Suckers idolizing mediocre pussy. 1.00

01:46:40.000 So, therefore, if it is the case that any of your...

01:46:44.000 Can you say, Gary, can you affirmatively say that anybody who takes your course, who has a stepfather, that their stepfather is a simp, simp meaning sucker idolizing mediocre pussy, which means that their mothers have mediocre pussy. 0.58

01:46:58.000 Gary, can you just be at least honest and say any of your customers?

01:47:03.000 No exceptions to the rule, sir.

01:47:04.000 They are a simp.

01:47:05.000 Including your customers.

01:47:06.000 That's what you are!

01:47:07.000 Okay, got it.

01:47:08.000 No, I actually ask people before they join my classes in an interview, are you a baby daddy?

01:47:15.000 Are you a baby mama? 1.00

01:47:16.000 I don't want those type of people in my class.

01:47:18.000 Those are actual questions I ask people.

01:47:20.000 So no, I don't want sips in my class.

01:47:22.000 No hope for those people.

01:47:24.000 Of course not.

01:47:24.000 They're just worthless scum, even though you say it's good that they're taken care of.

01:47:28.000 Just contradict yourself every five seconds, Gary.

01:47:30.000 Listen, it comes down to this, man.

01:47:32.000 You need people to clean the toilet, but it's not going to be me.

01:47:35.000 You understand?

01:47:36.000 You need people to go in and get all the shit stains off.

01:47:40.000 Yeah, what we need is more materialism, Gary.

01:47:43.000 Those people are good for society.

01:47:44.000 Gary, if we only had more materialism, that would solve the problem.

01:47:46.000 It's not going to be me.

01:47:47.000 So you're that guy who fucking cleans all this shit off the toilet.

01:47:50.000 Gary, can you just say if we had more materialism, life would be better?

01:47:52.000 Can you just tell people that strict materialism is the best thing ever?

01:47:56.000 No, no, my family is the most important thing I have.

01:47:58.000 My kids are the most important thing I have.

01:48:00.000 But money actually means something.

01:48:02.000 Yeah, so wait.

01:48:03.000 You're spending your money taking care of other people's kids.

01:48:05.000 So let me ask you a question.

01:48:06.000 Congratulations, sir.

01:48:07.000 Well done.

01:48:07.000 So I just want to make sure I got this right.

01:48:09.000 If you died, right, if you died, you would not want your wife to remarry, and you would not want your kids to have a father role model in their life.

01:48:16.000 If I die, my wife has enough money. 1.00

01:48:19.000 To take care of my kids for the rest of her life. 0.97

01:48:23.000 Yeah, but if she didn't, Gary.

01:48:24.000 No, there's not no ifs.

01:48:25.000 I'm a man.

01:48:25.000 I already make sure she does.

01:48:27.000 I could drop dead right now, and she's taking care of her whole life, and my kids are, bro.

01:48:31.000 Yeah, that's nice, Gary, but if you didn't, Gary, if you didn't, Gary, can you answer my question, Gary?

01:48:38.000 There is no hypotheticals like that.

01:48:40.000 Just answer the question, Gary.

01:48:41.000 There's no hypotheticals.

01:48:42.000 If it were the case that you did not have enough money for her to live forevermore, or let's just say the government came in and took it all away for some reason because they just didn't like your face. 0.67

01:48:51.000 That could happen.

01:48:52.000 Would you say then that your wife shouldn't remarry and that your kids should not have a positive stepfather in their life?

01:48:57.000 Would you say that?

01:48:58.000 I would say that my brother would come in and he would basically start...

01:49:02.000 Is he going to marry her?

01:49:03.000 No, no.

01:49:03.000 Is your brother going to come in and marry her?

01:49:04.000 We don't do that bullshit that you Christians do. 1.00

01:49:06.000 What are you talking about?

01:49:08.000 Let's put that down.

01:49:09.000 If your wife got remarried...

01:49:11.000 Kids would fulfill a father role.

01:49:13.000 But you're giving me hypotheticals.

01:49:15.000 These are straw man arguments.

01:49:16.000 The fact of the matter is, if I die today, my wife and my kids are taken care of for the rest of their lives.

01:49:24.000 If you die today, are your wife and kids taken care of?

01:49:28.000 If you die today, are your wife and kids taken care of?

01:49:31.000 Yeah, they are.

01:49:33.000 Congratulations, Ben.

01:49:34.000 But I also would not want my wife... 0.91

01:49:35.000 If I die tomorrow...

01:49:37.000 I would not want my wife to live the rest of her life lonely, and she would not want me to live the rest of my life lonely either.

01:49:43.000 Gary, calm down.

01:49:44.000 She'll find a new one within six months, bro.

01:49:46.000 I'm trying to answer your question, Gary.

01:49:47.000 She'll find a new one within six months, bro.

01:49:49.000 She has a pattern here.

01:49:50.000 Gary, calm down, Gary.

01:49:51.000 So anyway, the point is, is that you would want the same thing by your own admission just now.

01:49:57.000 You just said, yes, of course I'd want them to have that.

01:49:59.000 It's like, well then, essentially what you're saying, all you do, dude, all you do is contradict yourself.

01:50:05.000 Every fucking view you have is self- It's contradictory, Gary.

01:50:07.000 It makes no sense.

01:50:08.000 And again, at the end of the day...

01:50:10.000 I want you, the people who are watching this, to decide.

01:50:13.000 How do you want to live?

01:50:15.000 Do you want to live like a guy like this who can't prove anything he believes in with Christianity?

01:50:19.000 Can't prove anything whatsoever?

01:50:22.000 Do you want to live like a man who takes care of other people's kids?

01:50:25.000 Do you want to live with a woman who's not only fat but ran through? 1.00

01:50:29.000 Is this what you want?

01:50:30.000 And if it is, Andrew Wilson is for you!

01:50:33.000 But if you actually want someone who understands how the world works...

01:50:35.000 If you want to be a lying grifting piece of shit like Gary who can't prove numerology...

01:50:39.000 Who knows billionaires.

01:50:41.000 Who actually talks to people who are billionaires.

01:50:43.000 Unlike Andrew Wilson, who never talked to a billionaire in his life.

01:50:47.000 Then you have to understand, numbers do not lie.

01:50:50.000 Yeah, just Gary lies.

01:50:52.000 So the thing is, again, over and over again, Gary contradicts his own positions over and over and over and over.

01:50:59.000 And on top of that, I've disproven his numerological bullshit a million times.

01:51:05.000 Why do you think the guy filibusters the entire time?

01:51:08.000 He just filibusters.

01:51:09.000 He doesn't want the opposition to talk.

01:51:11.000 No matter how much you let Gary talk, Gary will never let you talk.

01:51:15.000 Because Gary's always terrified of what the truth is.

01:51:18.000 Bro, you have no truth.

01:51:19.000 He thought coming into this debate this would be some major dunk that's already publicly known by everybody information.

01:51:25.000 You really got me, Gary.

01:51:27.000 So every time you talk to a girl on the whatever podcast, she's going to call you a sip.

01:51:32.000 That really did me in, Gary.

01:51:35.000 You're an absolute sip.

01:51:35.000 Do you understand?

01:51:36.000 Look at the mirror.

01:51:38.000 Look at your wife. 0.86

01:51:39.000 No one will be with her, bro.

01:51:40.000 You're a pile of fucking dog shit, Gary.

01:51:45.000 You're the most laughed-out man on the internet, Gary.

01:51:48.000 Yeah, I'm sorry that, yes, it is true that if you follow Christian ethics, you will be a moral man.

01:51:53.000 That's true.

01:51:54.000 And you're garbage, Gary.

01:51:55.000 Say that you're a simp, sir.

01:51:57.000 I'm a numerologist.

01:51:58.000 You're a simp.

01:51:59.000 Say you're a simp, sir.

01:52:00.000 No, you're not a numerologist.

01:52:01.000 You're a con artist.

01:52:02.000 Okay.

01:52:03.000 Well, again, we can still go around to people in the streets, random people.

01:52:07.000 You put a thousand down.

01:52:08.000 I put a thousand down.

01:52:10.000 And we see where this takes us.

01:52:11.000 I mean, we can do that.

01:52:12.000 We can do it live on video, bro!

01:52:14.000 Can we actually use a real experiment where half of them are rigged and half of them aren't so that we can determine which of your actual readings are not tailored via cold reading?

01:52:23.000 Why does it always have to be rigged, bro?

01:52:26.000 Why does it always have to be some rigged job with you?

01:52:28.000 That's how you do an experiment for proof.

01:52:30.000 Why do people have to rig things?

01:52:31.000 That's not a lie.

01:52:32.000 You bring people to me, they give me their birthday, and I read them like a book.

01:52:37.000 That's what's going to happen, just like I read Fresh's friend today.

01:52:40.000 What happened, Fresh?

01:52:42.000 Yeah, I was on a date, and called Gary, got her birth date, and he read it like a book.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, he's an excellent cold reader.

01:52:51.000 Most con artists are.

01:52:52.000 Did I see what she looked like?

01:52:54.000 No.

01:52:55.000 No, there you go.

01:52:56.000 You don't need to see what a person looks like if you're a cold reader.

01:53:00.000 It's just basic cold reading.

01:53:03.000 The reason Gary won't do a controlled experiment is because if he did a controlled experiment, he'd be found to be a fraud.

01:53:08.000 How much money do you want to put on it?

01:53:10.000 On a controlled experiment?

01:53:12.000 Whatever you want.

01:53:13.000 I'll match it.

01:53:14.000 On a controlled experiment.

01:53:15.000 You want to go 50, 100k?

01:53:16.000 What do you want to do?

01:53:17.000 Yeah, I'll do a $100,000 controlled experiment.

01:53:19.000 As long as that is put in an account which Myron Gaines can pay out.

01:53:25.000 100%.

01:53:25.000 I'm good.

01:53:26.000 So how are we going to do this?

01:53:27.000 As long as that's the case.

01:53:27.000 So we're going to do this.

01:53:28.000 You're going to come to Miami, because no one wants to go to that shithole that you live in.

01:53:32.000 You're going to come down to Miami.

01:53:33.000 We're going to put random people here, and then I'm going to read them like a book, and they're going to decide if I was right around.

01:53:39.000 No, that's not the controlled experiment.

01:53:40.000 I'll give you the parameters for the controlled experiment.

01:53:41.000 Because you know more than the people I'm going to read.

01:53:43.000 Yeah, so I'm going to give you the parameters for the controlled experiment.

01:53:46.000 And these are the same type of parameters you would find from the Skeptic Society.

01:53:51.000 So what we would do is we would have a bunch of people in there, and half of them would be legit, and half of them would purposely give you false information.

01:54:00.000 And what they would do is before they ever went in that room, they would write out all of the true information that they had and see if based on your reading, right, that compared to the...

01:54:13.000 True information that they were giving behind the scene versus the false, if it compares up to the true information, you're cold reading.

01:54:20.000 That's the experiment.

01:54:21.000 So if I say someone had a bad year in 1996, and that person agrees that that was one of the worst years of their life, that's not enough evidence for you.

01:54:28.000 Well, we wouldn't allow vague questions like that.

01:54:30.000 We'd make them much more precise.

01:54:32.000 Oh, that's vague to you.

01:54:32.000 That's pretty specific when I say a year.

01:54:33.000 No, that's very vague.

01:54:34.000 I can say any year.

01:54:35.000 I point that year.

01:54:36.000 What is it?

01:54:37.000 Does that mean like...

01:54:38.000 I broke my foot, that's a bad year?

01:54:40.000 Or does that mean I lost everything and that's a bad year?

01:54:43.000 That's very vague, Gary.

01:54:44.000 I basically messed up my Achilles last year.

01:54:47.000 That was horrible.

01:54:48.000 And yes, I predict it for myself, too.

01:54:50.000 But for some people, that would be a bad year.

01:54:51.000 For some people, it wouldn't be a bad year.

01:54:53.000 Listen, people can go back and they can put in Dwight Howard numerology and they can see where I predicted this guy's injury before it even happened.

01:55:00.000 And I've done that many times.

01:55:02.000 And by the way, I've been on the news.

01:55:05.000 If you make predictions every single day, some of them will come through.

01:55:08.000 People can Google this.

01:55:09.000 I've been on the news.

01:55:10.000 And I call it the biggest comeback in NBA history.

01:55:13.000 When the Cavs were down 3-1 to the Golden State Warriors, I said they would come back.

01:55:17.000 That was never done in history before.

01:55:20.000 How many years ago was that?

01:55:21.000 That was 10. And it's never happened since.

01:55:23.000 So when it happened, I called it.

01:55:27.000 When it happened, I called it.

01:55:28.000 You also called the wrong president multiple times, didn't you?

01:55:30.000 No, I basically said Trump would win many times.

01:55:33.000 No, no, no, no.

01:55:34.000 Before that, you said that Trump wouldn't even be the nominee.

01:55:37.000 So it's like, you make such a slew of predictions.

01:55:41.000 I also said that Joe Biden would step down.

01:55:44.000 I also said Joe Biden would step down.

01:55:46.000 And he did.

01:55:47.000 So I was right about quite a lot, my friend.

01:55:50.000 Now, am I perfect?

01:55:51.000 No, you were wrong.

01:55:52.000 Am I perfect?

01:55:53.000 Because here's the thing.

01:55:54.000 I am only a human being.

01:55:56.000 The practitioner makes mistakes.

01:55:58.000 Who is mostly wrong.

01:55:59.000 Yes, you're a human being who makes mostly wrong predictions.

01:56:01.000 I agree with that.

01:56:02.000 I'm mostly wrong, and that's why I said I'm playing Crash on the 29th, and it happened two days later.

01:56:07.000 Interesting how that works.

01:56:08.000 Oh, wow.

01:56:09.000 If you continuously make that date for 10 fucking years, it's going to happen eventually, Gary.

01:56:13.000 About 3.5 million people have seen that in the past 24 hours.

01:56:17.000 It's going to happen eventually, Gary, if you make the same prediction for 10 years, the likelihood that one of them happens is very high, Gary.

01:56:24.000 Do you understand that?

01:56:25.000 That the likelihood that if you make the same prediction for 10 fucking years, that the likelihood that it will happen eventually is high?

01:56:30.000 And I said it two days ago, sir.

01:56:32.000 Yeah, after doing it for 10 years.

01:56:34.000 Remember, when it was 10 years, that wasn't enough evidence.

01:56:37.000 Then I did it two days ago, not enough evidence.

01:56:39.000 No, that proves my case.

01:56:40.000 This guy keeps moving the goalposts.

01:56:42.000 No, that proves my case, Gary.

01:56:43.000 That's what it is.

01:56:43.000 It proves nothing.

01:56:44.000 It proves my case.

01:56:45.000 You are absolute fraud.

01:56:46.000 If you make the same claim for 10 years, eventually you will be right.

01:56:50.000 And I look forward to taking your money, because the next time we do this, there's going to be...

01:56:54.000 You're not going to take any money, Gary, you're going to lose.

01:56:56.000 You're not even going to do it anyway.

01:56:57.000 You won't do it because you'll be a found out.

01:56:59.000 You'll never agree to a controlled experiment.

01:57:02.000 You know what?

01:57:03.000 We can up the stakes.

01:57:05.000 We can up the stakes.

01:57:06.000 Not only $100,000, the loser deletes his YouTube account.

01:57:10.000 Yeah, okay.

01:57:11.000 Let's do that.

01:57:11.000 Will you agree then?

01:57:13.000 The loser deletes his YouTube account.

01:57:15.000 I got a quarter million.

01:57:17.000 How many do you have?

01:57:18.000 Calm down.

01:57:19.000 Will you agree then to allow the Skeptic Society...

01:57:23.000 To run an experiment.

01:57:24.000 I don't care.

01:57:25.000 I don't know anything about any skeptic society.

01:57:27.000 I don't give a fuck about them.

01:57:27.000 Can you stop for 10 seconds so that we can at least have agreement?

01:57:30.000 If you just filibuster Gary, we can't come to agreement.

01:57:33.000 We will bring 20 to 30 people and they will decide.

01:57:35.000 You won't decide.

01:57:36.000 I won't decide.

01:57:38.000 The people I'm reading will decide.

01:57:39.000 And that is the only fair way to do it.

01:57:41.000 If not, you're a fraud.

01:57:42.000 And keep running, bro.

01:57:44.000 Keep running, bro.

01:57:45.000 That's not a controlled experiment.

01:57:45.000 You might find another kid to take care of.

01:57:46.000 Anyway, the skeptic society who has been finding out frauds for years and years and years.

01:57:52.000 If we can agree to have the Skeptic Society run a controlled experiment, which you pre-agree to, we'll put all the terms out publicly, to test whether or not your numerology is correct or incorrect, I will pay to have that done.

01:58:04.000 You won't have to pay a dime.

01:58:07.000 Okay, all you have to do is show up, and then on top of that, Gary, here's what we'll do on top of that.

01:58:11.000 If I lose, I'll delete my YouTube channel and give you $100,000.

01:58:14.000 Okay, so...

01:58:15.000 That's pretty fair.

01:58:16.000 So, I'll take a look at your skeptic society and see what their parameters are.

01:58:20.000 I'm not going to agree to anything without any parameters.

01:58:23.000 That's right, because you're a known fraud.

01:58:24.000 No, no, no, because I need to know what the rules are before I start playing the game.

01:58:27.000 It's just going to be a controlled experiment, Gary.

01:58:29.000 Oh, I mean, listen, I need to know the parameters.

01:58:32.000 I don't actually sign things without reading them first.

01:58:34.000 Yeah, of course.

01:58:35.000 Of course you can read it.

01:58:36.000 I'm just letting you know that after they come up with a controlled experiment, you're never going to do it.

01:58:40.000 Because it'll be a controlled experiment.

01:58:42.000 I'm more than willing to take your money and...

01:58:44.000 You know how many psychics have said the same exact thing?

01:58:46.000 I'm not psychic.

01:58:47.000 I never claimed to be psychic.

01:58:48.000 It doesn't matter.

01:58:49.000 A con artist is a con artist.

01:58:50.000 You get found out quick.

01:58:52.000 Okay.

01:58:53.000 So I think this was definitely a heated debate.

01:58:56.000 Both sides had...

01:58:58.000 Good talking points.

01:58:59.000 And look, I respect you both individually as men.

01:59:02.000 You guys both speak very well about your topics.

01:59:05.000 And listen, at the end of the day, this is a great back and forth.

01:59:08.000 I think you made your point, Gary.

01:59:11.000 Also as well, Andrew.

01:59:12.000 What I will do is close this out with the last thoughts on this debate.

01:59:16.000 Gary, you go first, and Andrew, you can leave off with closing thoughts or remarks.

01:59:19.000 I'm not a simp who fucking married a woman who's ran through, who has different kids by different men. 0.69

01:59:25.000 So, again, I'm feeling really good about myself.

01:59:29.000 I'm feeling really good about the fact that I have kids that are basically mine.

01:59:34.000 And Andrew over here, no matter what he tells you, he can't prove anything.

01:59:39.000 He's a freaking simp.

01:59:40.000 And if this is the way you want to live your life, then...

01:59:43.000 Joseph Wilson is for you.

01:59:45.000 I close.

01:59:47.000 Okay, and then I'll close with this.

01:59:49.000 I'll just say very simply that not only did I once again disprove, and by the way, right in the beginning of the debate, disproved him even on his own date system, but also let us remember that the only thing that this guy could bring to the table was an attempt to assault my character.

02:00:06.000 Based around the idea that he thinks a red pill community is going to rally around a known con artist when they've been trying to move them out as much as possible. 0.96

02:00:14.000 Regardless of what you think about my personal life, which is fine to think whatever you want, I am consistent in my worldview.

02:00:21.000 There's nothing I'm saying which is incorrect, which is why Gary had no arguments against me whatsoever, especially not with Christian virtues.

02:00:28.000 He even said what I'm doing is good!

02:00:30.000 On top of all of that, just try to notate that Christians don't make an ought that you must marry single mom or you must not marry single mom, right? 0.58

02:00:41.000 That each circumstance is different based on the virtues of the man and the woman who are practicing the religion, who are trying to come to the fruition of a family.

02:00:50.000 So what Gary will say is there's Gary's way, the con artist numerology way.

02:00:55.000 And then there's Andrew Wilson's way, which is the rejection of materialism and the movement towards something which is fulfilling.

02:01:02.000 That can have many roads in a pluralistic religion that understands there's many pathways to achieve those virtues.

02:01:08.000 There are men out there who are going to marry women who have children who are going to be very happy men for the rest of their life.

02:01:15.000 Is it optimal for most men?

02:01:18.000 No.

02:01:18.000 Would I ever say it was?

02:01:20.000 Of course not.

02:01:21.000 Have I ever?

02:01:21.000 No.

02:01:22.000 And so what Gary does...

02:01:24.000 He tries to do yet another con where he says, Andrew Wilson is trying to tell you this is the past.

02:01:30.000 No, when?

02:01:31.000 I don't ever do that.

02:01:32.000 It's all just made up.

02:01:34.000 And the reason he makes it up is because that's the only way to attack me.

02:01:38.000 How else can a con artist do it?

02:01:40.000 Where's my victims?

02:01:41.000 Gary can't provide any.

02:01:42.000 Where's all the people who have taken their money and are out there screaming about how he screwed up?

02:01:48.000 They're nowhere because it doesn't happen.

02:01:50.000 But it does happen with Gary.

02:01:52.000 And so all he's left with.

02:01:54.000 It's to try to convince you that I'm a man of low character, even though I'm the only one here with a consistent position, which he even agrees is good!

02:02:01.000 And with that, I'll close.

02:02:03.000 Yeah, it's good to clean toilets.

02:02:05.000 Someone has to clean toilets. 1.00

02:02:06.000 Ain't gonna be me.

02:02:07.000 So again, is it good to take care of kids who are basically being raised by single mothers? 0.95

02:02:13.000 Yes, it's great.

02:02:14.000 But I'm not gonna be the one to do it.

02:02:16.000 Maybe you want to be like Andrew and you can actually join him and be a good man like him.

02:02:21.000 But I'll end there.

02:02:22.000 Go ahead.

02:02:23.000 This was the last thoughts on each member's taker.

02:02:26.000 Listen, guys.

02:02:27.000 Comment below who won this debate.

02:02:28.000 Don't in the comments.

02:02:29.000 Not the Jew. 1.00

02:02:31.000 Never the Jew is going to win this debate. 1.00

02:02:32.000 Honestly, it was very heated.

02:02:34.000 We got a lot of views today.

02:02:35.000 Shout out to everyone for supporting.

02:02:37.000 Go follow Gary on his socials.

02:02:39.000 What are your socials?

02:02:39.000 Matrix Prime on IG. GG33Academy on TikTok.

02:02:45.000 You too.

02:02:46.000 And Andrew, we're going to find you as well?

02:02:48.000 Yeah, you can find me over on The Crucible.

02:02:50.000 I'm the host of The Crucible.

02:02:53.000 I appreciate you guys again having me on.

02:02:55.000 It was very kind of you to facilitate the debate.

02:02:59.000 That's another place you can find me is at PaleoChristCon on Twitter.

02:03:03.000 And you'll see many, many great debates that I do in the past and in the future.

02:03:09.000 We have a lot of great stuff coming up.

02:03:11.000 And with that, that's really all I have to say.

02:03:14.000 Appreciate it.

Fresh & Fit - February 01, 2025

Andrew Wilson VS Gary The Numbers Guy. Christianity Debate!

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